No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 81: The Players Championship

Episode Date: May 12, 2017

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today. Players Championship Week, one of the biggest weeks of the entire season on the PGA tour. Only place you can catch the live action on Thursday and Friday mornings is PGA Tour Live, 39.99 annually or 5.99 monthly deal. Log on to PGA Tour Live today and subscribe. That's better than most. That is better than most. What's up guys, welcome back to the No-Lang Up podcast coming at you live from the blog cabin. This episode is going to be a little different.

We had Bernard Longer over to the cabin actually this morning. He swung by and spent about 25 minutes with us and we recorded that conversation. A bit of a round table discussion with all the guys that are staying here. Andy Johnson from the Friday, Ryan Ballin G, Kyle Porter, Tron didn't make it up, make it over in time. Adam Sarson, Brendan Porath, there's a lot of people around the table. So we got that recording, we got that coming up here shortly and then we headed over to the course today and

chatted with MacKenzie Hughes Michael Kim Blaine Barber and Cameron Smith and we have just kind of the little 10 minute quick hitters with them So we had those after the Bernard longer discussion. So enjoy that we had a good time chatting with some of those guys and Hopefully we'll have more content coming later in the week. Turns out the blog cabin is not the most productive work environment, but enjoy that. There's not much intro into some of these are kind of just kind of free flowing conversations as guys were coming in and out of the room so bear with us on the formalities on that and otherwise thanks for tuning in. Another pretty solid rack that had a C35 speed diviner when the pad of courses they had.

Oh they've had some great courses. Cricket club last week was maybe one of the best of every play. They're not the guys. They're not quite there last year. How do you believe it will be? It's not great. It's an awesome track. Get a chance go. So when you come out on the main circuit now, are you on as hard of a grind as you as you are on the on the senior circuit still? Yeah, you know you take the same approach every week. You go out, you have a certain whatever routine or a certain things you want to get done before the tournament and work on your game have a good look at the course, you have an idea what you need to do and that's it.

I mean I don't quite put the hours in. I put in my house in my 20s, but it's still, you know, the 76 and you need to be done to be prepared. How different is the grind from the PGA tour to the Chameleon's tour? Because I feel like a lot of people assume guys can roll off the PGA tour onto the Chameleon's tour and start winning immediately, but then I've been fined out it's a lot more competitive assume guys can roll off the PGA tour on the Champions tour and start winning immediately, but then find out it's a lot more competitive than they originally did. That is very few that when I mean it, you know, as many guys never win.

People have no idea how competitive it is, but you take a guy like Ben Crenshaw, he's never won on the Champions Tour. You'd think it's good if Potter as he is. He would win something. Corey Pave and I mean I thought Corey would be one of the dominant players. He's won one time in a bunch of years and there's a bunch of those guys.

Then there's the opposite where somebody comes out, wins the very first tournament they play in and they don't win for two or three years in a row. Again, everybody faces their own demons, so they're on their shoes. But you've like got formula for winning on the Champions Tour. It's similar to that on the PGA tour. I know that a lot of us on the PGA tour, it's about it. Paul Stragons about who's getting the most 12 footers. Is it similar on the Champion's tour? You found there to be a different formula for winning.

It is similar. You got to hit good shots and make pots. But it's in a sense. The setup isn't quite as hard like the pins are 4 from the edge no 3 Which is not much difference Can be a there you guys that's in the bottom of the screen or in the screen or something Yeah, just gives you slightly bigger target So you've got to be fairly aggressive right from the get going. Many of our tournaments are only three rounders.

So you can't go in there slowly and build up towards the weekend. You've got to pretty much have three decent runs. You have any chance. So those are the main differences. Plus, I find on the pitch-a-turn-out, a lot of it is distance. You've got to be able to hit it far to have any chance. So, except for a couple of horses, you know, like Hilton had. Do you think with like how the games change and technology's changed like any players from like the year era, like during like the PGA tour and the European tour do you think there are any players and it would be like

significantly better players today than they were back then. Pretty think the same type of player would still be you know the same great players would be great or fear generation. Well I think we were totally different. We had to be creative. We were playing a different golf ball that was moving along. We didn't have the distance. We were shaping shots many of us. The distance was important, but it wasn't the prime thing. We had to be fairly good in everything. Nowadays, if you can hit it far in the hot well, you're pretty much going

to win a couple of times a year. It seems that way. And have a little bit of a wedge game. You know, that's what it seems like. A lot of these guys just hit it so far out there. And like, if I compare myself just this week, you know, I'm going to hit driver three iron, a hybrid, and they're in a driver eight iron or something like that. It's a totally different ballgame. And I understand that it's normal. And they all hit it far and out of this. It's hardly anybody that doesn't.

And there's different ways to get it done. You have a sack, Johnson, or somebody like like that that doesn't hit it quite as far, but they still get it done on certain courses, but then there's other courses where he must be having a very hard time. Do you feel like the golf ball change has neutralized skill in some way? Some of the guys that grow up now don't have to learn to hit the shots that you had to learn growing up. Do you think that that is kind of adds to the new kind of breed of player that we see that?

I think so. Yeah, not just the golf ball, but also the equipment, the driver, the mined driver, so much more forgiving. It's bigger, it's lighter, and you know, to hit at that straight and that far you couldn't do that years ago, it's impossible. So, I think you know about your game. Now, if you wish you knew in the mid 80s, where you're going to work. Well, I think I've learned more about the called swing, what works, what doesn't work. And the swing has evolved too.

I mean, you guys are way too young. But you know, when I was a teenager, was the reverse C. You were driving the lower body as hard as you could. That's what I was taught for a couple of years, or more than a couple. And you finished in this reverse C position, which puts a lot of stress on the back.

Now we're trying to cover the ball, squeeze it basically, and it's very different ball swing, I think, and 30, 40 years ago. And part of that, again, could be the equipment. So it's been an evolving thing for me, but these young guys, you know, 20-year-olds, they never had to go through that. They just learn the modern golf swing and go at it as hard as they can and then try and control it to some extent. Relatives to other players, do you feel like the technology boom has helped you compared to other players or hurt you a bit?

Does it minimize some of your advantages or does it maximize them? I think it's helped everybody. You know, I could have coded the last few years and probably I ever have my life to do the... To be able to believe the USGA distance reports that distance is driving distances enough. That's not... That's what they claim.

They said that compared to what? Compared to 2003 that driving distance hasn't increased but it doesn't add up to me. I didn't see as many 330 arc rides 2003 then as I do now you know part of that is also the as lettuces and multi-player I mean you you look around these guys now they're all pretty much flat-balles 98% of them and they work out all every day now everybody I run into they come from the workout I'm going to the workout when I was young nobody was born right from pretty much oh yeah I might go for a run or something but that was about the extent now they don't wait and they have nutritionists

and you know workout specialists and this and that. Everybody has a team of five or six guys. We were just a one-man show back then. So it's evolved, but it's evolved in a good way for the most part. Because golf, there wasn't much money in it, 30, 40, 50 years ago. You look at the career money of Nicolas Apollon, it's literally a joke. Well, they played and how little they've made. And the guys nowadays, there's so much more money in it. So we get more of the better athletes. They're not all going to football. They're not all going to baseball

They're now coming into golf and the average golfer is now 62 or something like that and Looks like a real athlete and that's why you know they hit the ball a little bit further to You say it's a ball for what in what ways do you think when you were coming out It was where there anyways in which it was better and if so, what what are Well, it was better. It's maybe that they're the old golf courses. We could still, you know, we didn't yeah What do you say they're too short now, you know, but so some of them have made adjustments by Langstoning their T's and their studio, but some of them didn't have to land to do it. Yeah. But there's, I mean, when I came out on tour I had to bring my own check back of golf balls.

Because the range ball we had there were 60 compression yellow things that weren't even around. You hit a seven iron and it went like that and you go, that's not me as that's the word, you know. So you better bring your own check back. We didn't have courtesy cards. So I mean, it was difficult to just get to a place and then go from one place to the next place. I wasn't old enough to drive. I had to go with a bus or train with my golf bag and my suitcase and other things. It's very difficult to relate. You know, when you say to these young guys here how good they have it, they have no idea. That's a risky job, isn't it?

Yeah, it's got some training bus. Yeah, it's a bus. What is, what goals do you have going forward? Obviously you've had a long story career, what keeps you going at the rate that you're have going forward? Obviously you've had a long story of career, what keeps you going at the rate that you're still going at? Well, I'm still competitive. I love the game. Obviously I love to compete. And I still feel like I can get better,

even though that sounds crazy. It sounds hard. But the last few years I felt that played really good golf, especially the last three or I felt that played really good golf, especially last three or four years, five years. Whether technique still gotten a little bit better, hit more fairways, more greens. And my scoring average was really good. Been able to win the money less day, out of nine times on the Champions Tour.

And the one year I didn't win, I had some surgery I was at for several months so that's it's pretty amazing the my last 10 years really on the on the Champions Tour. Will you keep going I don't know I mean the clock is ticking I'm gonna be 60 in August and you know I'm gonna get little shorter the guys coming out in their 50s are those that are 49 now. They're still going to hit it fairly long. We have guys out there that can hit it quite a waste past me. And so it's going to be hard to be dominant out there or be as good as I had been in the last few years.

But I'll try a few more years and see how it goes. The goal is to still win tournaments, win majors, and try and get better. If I can get a little better or maintain my status quo, I should still be competitive for a number of years. You said this week, we often hear this one course that sometimes mitigates the distance advantage that not the big bombers, sometimes they don't care to drive or talk about how you might

have to drive them to the United University, they didn't drive or aid. Right. Do you feel like there are venues, courses, events where like a chanting store player can still contend and compete and we see it every now and then and it goes to where we know the stats are out that distance is still huge. Do you feel like there are my news? There is. Like I said, Hilton had, I think, one of them, Colonial maybe. There's a couple of courses where it's more important to be straight and where you actually

have to shape the ball and be precise. But this course has changed dramatically. Just played yesterday in 9 holes in and Monday, and it's... They've lengthened it on a number of holes. I don't know if they didn't make a big deal about it. They talk about the new grass. And they're like, you know, it's...

It's length is becoming a factor. I mean, there's a couple of fairways where I struggle to just get to the fairway, which is, you know, Augusta, that's not the case. Augusta is long, but I can just get to the fairway, which is, you know, a gastro, that's not the case, a gastro, long, but I can always get to the fairway, but here there's a lot of that ground and it's, you know, sometimes whatever it is, 260, something like that, just to get to the fairways, that's into the wind, they're not struggle to make it. So it's becoming a really tough test out there. And a lot of the fairways are shaped, you know about that, you know they're angled. So you're teeing off this way, but it's angled this way or that way. So you either run through or you don't carry if you

don't hit the proper shape, which makes them a lot tighter. And there's a lot of trouble out there, too. Brendan mentioned Augusta. I'm just curious. Obviously, one of their toys. You play really well. I mean, you were in the second-to-last group two years ago. Is there, I mean, we see Freddie Play as well. There are pretty much whenever he plays.

Is there anything about that? What is it about Augusta that players like yourself and Freddie and the rest can compete there, seemingly? Well, there's a lot of love for knowledge about Augusta. And Freddie is still quite a bit longer than me. So he'll compete there quite well for maybe few more years. Because he's long enough, he's got enough carry, and he needs to ball high with a lot of spin.

And that's what you need. Augusta, you need some lengths and you need to stop your irons on the dime as we sit, you know, on the short. It greens a large, but there's a lot of false trunks, false bags, whatever. You've got a hit small pockets, you've got a hit small areas like this area in here and if you missed that area with your 7 or 6 iron or 9 iron, whatever it is, then the ball wanders off and you know a very difficult pitch or view in three-patterings or something like that. And part of it why some of the guys do so well over the years is just knowing if the pin is here you can't go there, you gotta be over there. You know, I can still get up and down hitting a horrible shot 40 yards over here

but if I miss it five yards there I get nothing. And that's part of it and also known the greens and how they break. Speaking of Augusta I'm always curious the annually at the Champions dinner. Do you guys jockey for who sits where? Are you ever like trying to angle to sit next to somebody? How does the seating work? Are people... No need for that. Nothing. There's a chair for everybody. And you know I'm gonna sit with bad people. No matter where you sit you're gonna have a great seat and it's around table even though it's a little longer than round. But everybody can see everybody. It's never been a problem but there's you

know we've some some people sit in the same corner or in the same side or whatever this end of the table that end of the table and often you know I often find myself next to Larry Mott is in Sections and I look across the table and I seem to find the same 3 or 4 or 5 guys there. So we're human self-proper. We do the same thing. Do you guys ever take podcasts with the changes? Yeah, it's a pretty similar scene for you. You got an architecture takes, I can tell. He was talking about the architecture, the other. I would love to hear what you think about the new 12 hole.

And then you talked a little bit about some of the other changes. I know like 15 they added a lot of distance. But I up to here a little bit more about like the new 12th and what you think there Well, I think it's creates some excitement depending where they put the tea if most guys will go for it or not I think they've done a pretty good job, but the only thing I personally don't like is anything left off the edge of the personally don't like is anything left of the edge of the grain, even though there's five yards of grass, it's like this. So if you do this much left of the grain here in the water, I'm pretty much. So I wouldn't be surprised

if they don't change that in the future, but who knows, You know, they might love it so much that they keep it that way. But I think for a shot of that distance, which is probably around 300 or 320 yards, you know, if you hit it this close to perfect, or what this close to perfect, you ought to get some kind of reward and not be being the water. But we'll see what happens this week. It'll certainly create some excitement. The big guys go for it. The big guys lane up and some strategy involved. And some are confident that this and some other should not.

So it'll be fun to see. How are you going to play it? I, yesterday, I was into the window. I couldn't even carry the bunker. So there's a waisted, well it's a bunker actually. And it's, what was it, 267 to carry the bunker? The 268 into the wind that can't carry it. So why would I go for it?

I can't even reach the front edge, which is 300 yards, it's on the 297, I think. So no point, you know, to other, so I just did it. What did I hit? I think I hit four iron, a full pitching wedge yesterday. Just lay up to a full pitching legend. Well, thereabouts, whatever your favorite distance is, I might hit it too hybrid and so I have a My favorite dishes I might hit a two hybrid and so I have a lob wedge in or sandwich Depending on you know whether pin is how much pin I need and all that kind of stuff Quite a long green too and slopes right to left. Not an easy layup either. No, it's It's not not easy. That's true because if you hit in that sand It's a horrible shot from 80-90 yards away.

And if you hit it too far, you're coming out of rough the trees in the way. And the green slopes told us the water. You're right. I think that back right pin, if you have to lay up, it's just really tough because you get no angle from that right side. Very true. Yeah. Oh, put left to right. And so you have no hope.

Downwind, downwind that day. Yeah, downwind that go for it. Right. That would help. Oh, forward to. Yeah. And I think they can play it anywhere from like two, seven. Yeah, they got like, what, four or five two boxes.

Yeah, I don't think they were planning for guys to already have set, like a few guys this week are already saying, yeah, they can reach it or say, happy to lay out, they don't like to set it. So I don't think that's how they would intended the whole to be, you know, Tuesday people are saying, we're not gonna go for it, but it'll be interesting to see what they do with the game.

I don't know if it'll always be a sound that I don't know how to go for it. Yeah, yeah. A lot of guys will make birdy laying out for or make par and hopefully take bobi out of the equation. So, this depends. With the kind of boom and golf analytics, do you pay any attention to the statistics and how would that have changed the way your kind of younger career was if you had had all the analytics and stats these guys have now? I don't know if it would have changed a great deal.

There's certainly some things that are all lo easy or not of this, with the equipment again. On how they, she just cranked the shaft a little bit and then comes out and you try another one. You tweak it here and the club has more love, less love, more hope, more slice. Maybe we had to try 20 different drivers. You know, presuming that you couldn't say, what I'm a little more hook in this, it's impossible to take some of the six months to make one. And we didn't have the computer where you hit three balls, oh there's spin too much, oh this doesn't spin, you know, that doesn't carry enough. We had to take it out, compare one against the other and say well this is a little further, this little shorter, this, we all didn't, you know, by looks, you look at the fly and say this looks pretty good, this might have a chance, chance. The other one that falls out of this guy or stuff like that, it's a totally different world, not this, really.

Is there anything about the stat measuring that changed the way you view your own game? Like in your head, did you say, oh, actually, I put it better than I thought I did or I'm not as good with my way. Yeah, and sometimes it's okay. You know, I felt like statistically, I don't look at it every day, I look at it every few weeks, a few months here and there. And I see that I'm leading the party in the other, or I'm top three in the party.

I said to my kitty, I didn't put that correctly, and I said, no, I didn't think so. I just had to say something else. But sometimes they say, fairway hits, green hits, or ups and downs, isn't that. It's over a long period of time. I think it gives you a good idea where you're at compared to other guys. You might still not think you've done your best, but you may still be up there even though you feel you can do a little better. Don't go running around. When you're leading the field and putting, don't go say I'm not having to get paid, that's not going to make it too many problems.

That's right. It's a kind of a badge of honor to play on the PJ to work it back to PJ tour champions and yeah this is kind of a dispatch from going back to the tour. For one match, it's fun being out here. Everyone's similar. Just to see the guys that I still know. Like, a couple of German fellows, Alex Chekhov and Morgan Kainer. And a few of the other guys that are running to a domestic or I watch too call for TV quite a bit. So I know some of the medium age guys.

It's just the very young ones I struggle with and come put the faces with the name. But it's nice to be out here. No, laying up group. This is it. This is it. Walked into a podcast where you didn't even believe in the beach.

It's not fun to hit, man. We have welcoming in Mackenzie Hughes here on the podcast we're here in sorry here upon a beat via beach When you get in this week how you feeling have you been off the course yet? I got in Monday around lunch and I played the course full 18 yesterday Awesome track Got a lot of guys talking about how many changes are Being a first-timer. There how many changes are being a first time where there's no changes really for me. It looks exact same as I remember it.

But yeah, very excited to be here and it's gonna be fun week. Is that almost an advantage this year? Like kind of having not seen it before and you don't have some predetermined notion of certain breaks. Like what it used to do. Yeah, I think there's probably two ways to look at it. You could say, you know, the guys that play here a lot still have a ton of really good memories. And I'm sure a lot of the breaks are so

pretty similar in the spot to miss it. But as far as like, you know, me not having any like thinking, like, oh, this putt has always been like right edge and, you know, but, you know, this year, the green is totally different. So always been like right edge, but this year the green is totally different, so it could be left edge pie. I don't know. So I think that's, you can go both ways with that, but I'm going to use that as an event this week for sure.

Do you get the sense that this event is really different than most PGA tour events and it being obviously it's a flagship event, but amongst the players are guys that little extra amp for it, almost like they would be for a major? Yeah, I mean, think, you look down the field less and you you know you realize how good a field it is and I bet I mean I think it's the deepest field and I think a lot of guys you would agree the same same thing and so I think you know certainly feels like a major it feels you know, one of the biggest tournaments on the tour and I haven't played them all yet, but certainly has a much different feel than the rest. So you win last fall, what was your, I think a lot of people kind of get to know people once they get on the P-J Tour? What were the highlights of your path leading up to getting

on the P-Jay tour? So I played two seasons in Canada on the McKenzie tour and then, which, you know, it's nice to own a tour. So the name that after you had done it. It's a good two seasons. Yeah, it really went well. So I just signed a name. Sponsorship with people. And then I played two years in the web.com as well.

But I think, you know, the highlights for me, I mean, I had a year where I was bumped the web.com as well, but I think the highlights for me, I had a year where I was bumped off web.com in 2014 and I came back the next year, played well in Canada and got back on the web. I think a highlight for me, obviously, I won in Canada at 1 on the web.com, but I think for me there was a point last season where I was Monday qualifying, we'll halfway through the year and I turned that into a top five finish and then from there, I kind of snowballed and then six weeks later I won. So I kind of went from beyond the outside looking into having a PGA to a card and that's

up in that, you know know is still so recent and so like fresh in my mind. I mean like being in Monday qualifiers like the worst you've done ever. Especially on the web.com because you go out there and shoot seven under and you're like well I might have a chance but probably not. And so it's just it's been a very fun last 10-web months and that's probably a moment that I can think of that. People might not really think of, but that's something that was really cool. How difficult is it to go?

So your whole career, you're moving forward, moving forward, moving forward. And all of a sudden, you lose Web.com and go backward towards McKenzie to her. How difficult is that? It's hard, for sure. And my first three years as a pro, I mean, playing in Canada, and playing in the web, like, never really had job security.

Now I have job security on the best two in the world, which is really cool. And it's hard, though, because you get used to a certain level of treatment. And it's like, it's simple. I was like, oh, I get pretty breakfast in lunch. And then I go out to Canada. And It's like, oh, I get a pretty breakfast in lunch, and then I go out to Canada. And it's like, oh, you get half off your meals.

And you're like, you have to cook it. Here are our raw eggs. Do yours all make it? I'm in Charlotte right now. So I've been there almost five years. And I didn't see myself being there for five years. But once I moved there with my wife at a school, I just kind of, we just stayed there,

and I've loved her since. Golden flashes, right? Golden flashes, right? Yeah, we're back. We're in Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big rivalry in the room. Our proud story, Miami University athletic program,

but what's the, I mean, how big of a difference is, you know, you're guys say like a shot here, a shot there, making all the difference in the world. Do you have a appreciation for a sense of, you know, interested falling off in 2014 to winning on the tour in 16? Was there a huge transition in your game or is the margin of kind of how things can swing really that close? I mean, it's hard. If I say it really is that close, it's hard to put that

into words. But last year when I was Monday qualifying, I didn't feel that my game was much different than it is right now. But I think once you get to a certain level, and I think once you get to level where you're good enough to plan a web.com or even on the McKenzie tour, I think 99% of the battle is just in between the ears

and the mental struggle. And just, I mean, you know, find a way to believe in yourself, come down the stretch, just having a bit of an edge to you, the little bit of an FU attitude that you have to have, which as a Canadian I'm not very good at. I'm trying to get better at that. I probably say story more than FU, but yeah, it's just, I think to me, anyone on the McKenzie Tour or

rope.com tour, you know, given the right opportunity and, you know, some confidence and momentum, I mean, they'd be out here in a heartbeat, right? And I proved that. So I think that that's cool for other guys to see too, is like, you know, I mean, a guy that was Monday qualifying last summer, you know, spitting the matchers, putting matchers, splitting the players and you know it's it can happen that quick. So you wanted to play off a big playoff? Yeah five, five, six, five guys. Yeah I'm a good morning.

It's a Monday morning. Yeah. So what so we started camera smith earlier and you know about going back on a Monday morning out to the playoff. Did that help your nerves or? I think I thought I think being a playoff certainly helps because once you get to that point you're like, okay, it's going to be a great week. It's just how good it is this week going to be. But the hard part with a big playoff like that is that even if you don't last all the

other guys in the playoff and go 20 holes in a playoff or something like that, if you don't last all the other guys in the playoffs and go 20 holes and playoff or something like that, I mean, if you lose to that one guy, I mean you're still T2, right? You're not getting a prize or going, you know, 15 holes, you're just in a date or, you know, in the last and that alone. But it's probably easier, but like, so my mentality was that like, I mean, a T2 wasn't going to be good. You know, a T2 with four guys wasn't what I wanted. After leading the entire week, a second just wasn't going to do it. So it was actually hard to sleep the Sunday night a little bit

because I had missed a 10 foot putt to win. It was pretty dark today. It was pitch black. Do you wish you would have waited to the next day, that's a such a hard decision. I kind of do, but if I had made it, it would have been the best decision ever. Right. So, and everyone else was potting, and I could not do that guy. You can't be that guy.

No, guys, no. You wouldn't have slept over that. No, and then I would have missed it in the morning. So, none of you would be like, wow, this guy is a tool. So, it's a pretty good place to win. You got to say sorry. Yeah, you got to say sorry. That's a coverup most of the most since.

So, but no, it was hard. But coming back the next morning, I think the hardest part was that, you know, it was like a totally different climate. I mean, I went from like 75 to like 40 degrees. And on those pervieta greens too. Yeah, I mean, it was just, it was a hard morning. But I think that kind of played in my hands a little bit, you know, being Canadian.

And, you know, I think everyone that saw that play out told me that I had the advantage because I was Canadian. But what's your favorite? And I love cold weather. Well speaking of Canada, what's your favorite course in Canada? Favorite place in the game? I've got a few fighting in the top five. It'd be like in no particular order.

It'd be like the national golf club of Canada, Hamilton Golf and Country Club, West Mount. Let's see. But there's three. There's my top three right there. So what Canadian cliche do you hear the most? Like you like cold weather, you like hockey. That's got me number one. Well, yeah, hockey in cold weather. It's like, you know, like a day out here where it's like 45 in the morning.

Oh, you must love this. Like, no, we hate cold weather. Like, nobody likes it. We just were born with it and we deal with it. And it's like that. And like, you know, hockey is obviously a big one. But I think the cold weather one and like, you know, just like the stereotypes of like, you know, I mean,

I can remember and call it some of the stories. Like people would be like, you know know how do you get your mail and I'm like same way you jump like it's the North Pole like it's not some Arctic frozen over a tundra you just cross that line and this is like ice and snow yeah like you live in Ohio you should know that so Kent State Ben Curtis on the Kent State yeah yeah your relationship with him as far as yeah I know Ben. So Ken stay, Ben Curtis on the Ken stay. Yeah, your relationship with him as far as? Yeah, I know Ben pretty well.

He would come and practice a fair bit. And it's cool to see a guy like that with, you know, I would say, you know, a good amount of natural ability. But like, he wasn't the guy that like, you go, wow, this guy's on the PJ tour and he's one of major I can't do what he's doing, you know, and he's You know great example of just a guy that you know know what he's doing He's not you know trying to be somebody else. They he's not like so he's not trying to play a power game And he's probably laying up a lot which you know, it doesn't sit well in this room

But he's made a lot more money laying up and hitting work just close but yeah he's a cool guy and no one can pick his brain. I know you got a run man so thanks for popping in and I'll do a skin some time. We need to get you some gear we'll say you some gear. Thanks man. right next up we have Blaine Barber So you guys filming for or according for a new one coming up It's good. It was a lot of alcohol flowing in that meal Not for Z not for Z. No. Yeah, I was playing in like how it's in a completely flat position with my laptop at 8.25 and he was like, you want to go to dinner and I was like, I am in total veg mode right now.

Missed out, this is a crowd. Sean's takes were pretty spicy. A pair of scopes. A pair of live fairs go for them. I love it. So you have a venture getting over here, huh? Yeah, it was a nice little 39-hour travel then. Yeah, nothing else counting, but yeah, a guy two seats in front of me on the plane died

over the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. No way. Yeah, so we had to turn around. Welcome to Periscope by the way. We had to turn around. Go back to the ship. That's how I forward. Yeah, it's? 88 years old.

That's a tough, strong, strong, strong. Hey. Yeah, so we had to turn around and go to the shenanigans and unload. And yeah, got us, got us on the next day. But yeah, made it. We're here. So this is kind of the closest thing you've got to a hometown of Ed, right?

This is it. I grew up in Lake City, Florida, which is about an hour and a half from here. And it's the closest the tour comes to where I'm from. And there's only one high school in my county. And so we would, a lot of our high school matches from Jacksonville. So I mean, that's been a lot of time in Jacksonville. It feels like it's closed the home, but I'm going to get.

OK. So you play a bunch out here? I've played, I mean, not a time, but I've played two junior players. And then we had the stadium here in 2009. Okay. So play there a few times. They've solid many of the stadiums. Yeah. They they they hit some good tracks for the stadium in Florida. A lot of good places. When you get like for a travel week, do you how do you get set up somewhere to stay? Do you usually rank that somewhere range up for a total guy or like a house guy? I just do it on myself. I enjoy doing that.

It's kind of type A, so I just like to, like I'll just go a month in advance and plan for like a month and then kind of just do that. It's the weeks go on, is I know when I'll be planning stuff. And so like I just booked this a month ago and I asked Zach if he wants to do this. We just bring another house over in the talk. I just can't show up.

How difficult is it? Because I know for us traveling, it just is media. It's hard to find a rhythm for the week. It's hard to have consistent days. Is it the same way for you or how does that work? 100%. I think one of the underlying difficult things about what we do is, I'm in my third year, I feel like I'm a good player,

and I'm still just figuring it out. Like I don't know. Some weeks I feel like I don't work enough. Some weeks I feel like I'm over my third year, I feel like I'm a good player, and I'm still just figuring it out. I don't know. Some weeks, I feel like I don't work enough. Some weeks, I feel like I'm overworked. I'm traveling with my family, so I have a lot of moving parts. We have a two year old and another one all the way. So it's hard, I've figured out a way to just kind of develop a game plan,

try and stick with it. But it's difficult. It's hard to find what that rhythm is. And I think that's just part of the learning curve. It kind of takes three to five years, maybe to figure out where you want to play, how you want to do it, when you want to get there, how you want to prepare. How do you set up your schedule, your whole plan differently this year versus pretty easy years? Just

I try to have more rest days. I'm trying to just take one day a week completely off. So if I make the cut, I'm trying to just take one day a week completely off. So if I make the cut, I'll just take off normally Monday the next week, or if I miss a cut, I'll take Saturday off. And then just, I'm trying to play, you know, as you get more acclimated to the courses, I can play them less, so I'll just play. There's been a few weeks this year where I'll just play nine holes before the tournament starts, kind of get a feel for how the courses are playing, and just go play.

So, you know, it's just, and it's different, like I try to do more of my work at home and then when I get to the event, I'm more just getting into the rhythm of playing and so, just think of that. Are you still based in Lake City? No, we live in Auburn, Alabama. I live in Auburn, Alabama. Yeah, just stay there after I graduated. How was it, I mean, traveling with a two-year-old, let's say

you have like an early morning tea time the next day and two-year-olds up in the middle of the night. That's affecting your sleep schedule and your preparation every week. Yeah, well so thankfully, Emma is a great sleeper and she always has been. So it's only an issue for the first 10 to 12 weeks as I'm sure Tr's figuring out to see. He's good sleep. Good. That's great. But even if not, I know that that's just, like I'm not immune to the normalcy of life.

That's just how it works. I just have to fight through fatigue someday, which is going to happen when our second comes in five or six weeks. But you just do the best you can. I mean, when we had Emma, we didn't really understand that. And we'd like, would rent one room, and she'd stay in the room with us.

And so we've kind of figured out, with the next one, we were having two rooms or a house. And so I can at least get some sort of thing. Yeah, you just kind of figured out and rolled a bunch of cool stuff. What, how do you set, like, so are you just going to play all the way up until, until, until, did it? Yeah, well, it's probably gonna be a C-section, which helps in terms of playing in it, but

I'm gonna play the week before, and I'll take the week of his birth off and the next week, so I'll skip. I'm not doing this up in qualifying, and I'll skip the travelers. I just want two full weeks with them, so whenever that falls, and then I'll just play after that, and then they'll stay at home for a while. We aim a travel to 2 1-1-1-1 2 1-1-1 2 1-1-1 2 1-1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1-1 2 1-1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2 1-1 2-1 2-1-1 2 1- That'll be their first event back. Once I have four. So I do recommend him, why is we in the birth or not? I got the stink eye from my mother. She follows you.

I have a heavy trickle. No, he was crazy. One of the dangerous stories. One of the doctors at the hospital came in and popped in. He was like, dude, we're all rooting for you. He follows me. And it's really, really awesome. The Dio series of the hospital came in and popped in and he was like, dude, we're all rooting for you. I was falling for you. I was sitting in the hospital falling and turning. That's so fun.

Great commentary. Yeah, that's good. So in terms of what we were talking earlier about, it seems like PJ Ture has gone away from calling this the fifth major a little bit. But amongst the players, how big of a deal is winning the player's championship? It's huge. I think you can't understand the importance of it. You can't overstate the importance of it.

It is our, like, is the players. It is our biggest event outside of the majors. And I mean, the field is stronger than the majors. The golf course is very demanding. The setup is great. Off course is very demanding. The setup is great. It's extremely important. I mean, I can't speak for everybody, but I've only played in the US Open, so I don't have 20 majors to base this off of, but I mean, it feels just as big as that.

Yeah, it's a major. And I grew up coming here, you know, every year, so it's always felt like a big event. And I think that they've done a good job at elevating it and making it really important. And so, yeah. And you get more of a, you get a longer exemption if you win. It like a big event. And I think that they've done a good job at elevating it and making it really important. And so, yeah. And you get more of a result, you get a longer exemption if you win.

I mean, it's a big deal. It is, for sure. What's your, so you're obviously a torso, kind of sore, and you're deep in the game. What's your go-to, what's your go-to torso move? You know, honestly, like, I watch all videos of Tiger, and there's an element of his kind of swag that like just creates confidence. Like if he was watching play, I never until now like I've never really watched him be like,

man he was like crazy with that. And so, I'm unbelievable. So I practice my club tour at home, you know, because I had a lot of quality shots that I just like my biggest regret after the fact is is I didn't like I had to just win the RSM I told my caddy afterwards. I just was another member of the 5-man play. Yeah, I 18s a fairly tough hole. I was had a great round going just Pipe the drive that had like two feet of curve on it and then flush just a nine iron to like 12 feet and

We're walking on the farewell rando porta-potty come back and I'm like Corey I did not club tour that shot it was it was just a 10 out of 10 shot and I just totally with that's what you're thinking about at that moment what's like the most ridiculous Torso's movie either seen or done on a course Max home had one to me that he The cat he told him it was 87 yards and he went long and he and he didn't believe the art So he stepped it off himself. Oh my gosh. I may have been playing with I've seen that happen You've seen it happen that story sounds so familiar. I don't know if I was playing with Max or not

But that is that's epically tors fast Yeah, I can't I mean it's hard to just pick one off top of my head, you know. Yeah, asking to reach feedback in the archives. Yeah, but I've seen that. And then the player, Cadi Convo, is pretty funny. There was somebody on the European tour last week that did like the Tiger and the Reed at the same time.

Oh yeah, Alexander Levy. Yeah, Ryan after it. Yeah, just for real. I had to throw this. He's still throwing through and Ryan after it. Just for a while. I have to. This is still flowing through and twirling. I don't know how he did. The second shot was phenomenal, but the drive may have been even better. I don't know if you sell the drive.

Yeah. Super recoil, like, staring it down. It's awesome. J.B. Kennedy from your Pinterest. I've been warning you about this guy. We're getting some camera. You're going to be seeing it in the theatrics. It's funny.

Cool. All right, man. Thanks for popping in. of luck this weekend. And I'll do it again sometime. You can see Papa. Yeah. Yep. All right, we're here at the players' championship.

Myself, Trond's in the room, Cobb Porter. And we're welcoming in 2017 Zurich Classic Champion, Cameron Smith. Cameron's going on, man. Not a lot. Yeah, just being kind of chilling out the last wakeers I hear in Jackson, taking it pretty easy. What was the celebration like after the win?

It was a bit of a weird one actually because we finished on a Monday morning so it was a bit of a weird vibe and we didn't really do much to be honest. It would have been different, I'm sure, if it was on the Sunday night. What was, did you have to jump out of town immediately? Or was, I imagine we're going to a team environment that would have been awesome if you could have done something together. Yeah, yeah, John is just leaving that afternoon. And both of our caddies had to leave that afternoon as well. And then, yeah, I didn't get back until Tuesday so yeah

we didn't really have anyone to celebrate with which is so you got plenty of people to celebrate with the New Orleans. Yeah so many things open up after a win schedule just all these different things over the course of the next couple of years. What has been the one that you've thought about the most or that is maybe affected you the most? You're like, wow, that's awesome, that that happens. Yeah, I think just the job security for a couple of years, yeah, just a lot of stress off the shoulders and you know, we all worry about what we have to do next.

And yeah, so that's definitely the biggest one that's coming out of it. Yeah. Is it how different? I mean, there's obviously a lot of pressure going on at the end when you come back on the Monday with a totally different atmosphere, the crowd energy, not nearly the same. That helped with the pressure, did it make it any easier? Yeah, I don't think it helped. I think, like I said, it was just it was just a kind of weird weird vlog on the Monday morning

You know, that was maybe 50 or 100 people there Whereas I'm sure they're not before that would have been right. Yeah Hey, small, so yeah, it's definitely a weird vlog and Yeah, it definitely didn't help. I think it was just a yeah, it's just weird Yeah, it definitely didn't help, I think it was just a, yeah, it's just weird. Whenever you did your post-want interview on CBS, you couldn't even talk, you're overcome. What do you think, what was that emotion? Where did that come from? Where Jonas kind of had to talk for you and just have you had time to lay process through that?

Yeah, I can't even remember hitting my shot in and the part. I've tried to, like, I've had to watch the video to remember it. Yeah. And Jones has got a little bit more experience under his belt with winning PGA 2 events. It was my first one. Yeah, something that I've been working towards for a long time and, you know, just got the best of me, I think. What are you most excited about this week?

Plan. Just playing your home course. I mean, this is essentially your home course, right? Yeah, probably just sleep in my own bed, to be honest. Yeah, practice and play here with all the guys every week that we have off. Yeah, I kind of like to get out there. It causes in pure condition.

It seems like guys really do get up for this event in a similar way to get to a major. I see a lot of guys here on Monday and like really here to grind. You get a sense out there from guys that this is kind of an event that does get circled on the calendar. We're talking you know, the fifth major thing gets overblown. I think the tour is kind of moving away from promoting as that. But you get the sense that this event is different than other PGA tour events. Yeah, it's definitely different. Everyone's here this week, all the top players. Yeah, lucky set everyone's here preparing early.

I think Jason was here on Saturday, you know, which he rarely does. How has your schedule changed for us the year? If you had to really Rear-about it or yeah, I haven't really thought about it My goal at the side of the year was just to get enough money up to keep my card And then I was just gonna go home to Australia. I love Australia. I love heading back to the scene of my mates So now it's just giving me some time to go over there and chill out, which is nice. Would you prefer a course on Australia? I probably Kingston

haze, I like Kingston haze better than Royal Melbourne. Some people won't agree with me there, but yeah definitely all those courses down the sand belt there are awesome. What do you have you gotten out and seen obviously the changes that have been made out here and what do you think of the course play a lot differently than it has in the past out here? I don't think it will you know they re-taught all the grains. I think you know just a new grain thing, bulls don't be spinning as much. It would be pretty hard.

And other than that, they haven't really done much. I've just, you know, grounded off a few slopes and obviously changed 12th of all, which is much better home now. You like the 12th? Yeah. Okay, so I've heard some mixed things so far. So, no, are you playing to go for it or playing to lay up with it? Obviously, it's going to depend on the position and the

t-box, but what, because it's, I've heard some guys say they're not going to go for it at all already, it's saying that. Yeah, I'll be going for it, I think. Right, yeah, I can't. Yeah, good answer. Good answer, this way. Yeah, nice line out. Yeah, that's right. So my first memory review was 15 US Open, T4, T3, something like that.

T4, T3, something like that? T4, yeah. Eagle the last. What was your, like, obviously a long path leading up to that US Open? But that felt like kind of your first breakthrough on a national stage. Tell me about your path leading up to getting to that US Open. Yeah, I turned pro, I played, I went to Asian Tour School, got my card there, played my way into the CIMB Classic, which I managed to finish the fifth I think, which was my first PGA Tour

event, and then that allowed me to get a few more sponsors spots over here, and yes, I got seven more I think, and then the US.S. Open was kind of my last shot. I didn't have enough money to get my card and then you had finished fourth there which got me over the line it was pretty cool feeling. Asian Tour School what's that like? Where is it? Asian Tour School I think it's in Thailand yeah. So yeah I played it there for a year.

It was a cool experience. I learned a lot about myself. And you know, it's just completely different over there. Yeah, I can imagine it. What's the biggest difference? The biggest cultural anything. I mean, yeah. I'm going to be like, thank you.

Um, yeah, probably just culture and, um, how people have, have it just brought up completely different, yeah. But it's, you know, you've talked to Peter, you learn about like, how much he loves travel. Do you, do you enjoy the travel or are you, are are you more like let's play every event in Jacksonville? I'm just saying that here. No, I like traveling. It's been Something that I've been doing since I was like 14 15 years old traveling around Australia and then traveling around the world playing Amateur stuff. So always enjoyed it. I'm used to it

Yeah, and I yeah, I wish that we could actually travel a little bit more in the US too. Do you have plans to play a pretty international schedule? We've been forward now that you've got your tour of stuff kind of blocked out now for the next couple of years? Like, you've got free up to do a little bit more internationally? Or? Yeah, I haven't really thought about it. I think I'll definitely begin on how I'm to a striad to play the events down there. I always love playing down there in front of the...

I'm proud, so yeah, I'll definitely be doing that. How much does like a fish or a wolf golf ranking factor into how you make out your schedule? Knowing, like, you know, trying to get in that, in that bracket of getting in all the events and whatnot. Do you think about, is that something you think about, like, field strength or anything like that when you, when you come up with a schedule? No, not really. Just go for it.

Yeah. Go for what you're vibing. Yeah. If, yeah, generally, if I, if I like to cool so playing, if I don't, then I won't say that's the main deciding factor. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. How are you after you got back to Australia?

Well, I haven't been home this year. I wanted to stay over here like I said before until I get my card. Just work on my game. Yeah, so I think I'll be going over pretty soon. I'm not sure exactly remember. Big, big on home for a couple weeks. It would be nice. What's the biggest difference between playing golf here and golf in Australia? I think probably just the condition of the course. Our courses at home

tend to be really firm and really fast all the time. Whereas here we tend to play on slower fairways but still fast and firm greens I guess. but every time an Australian gets a firm and fast course over here we always tend to go well so. And as far as your amateur career, do you have any favourite courses you've got from the plant and the sugar go up either over the British idols or I got to, my favourite course is probably a gust I've played the Masters last year say

yeah it's pretty tough to go fast I'll All right thanks for the time man yeah no I just got a big lot of obligations today letting me do going on yeah yeah I appreciate you stopping in and best of luck thanks have a nice. And last but not least, Michael Kim. Monday night, but I just like I'll cancel and got in Monday morning. It's like this is deal. Yeah. Yeah. Tough, tough travel and good here. But where do you live full time? I live in Dallas. I was in Texas. Yeah. We're out of Dallas.

University Park area right next to SMU. Yeah, I would have been rich in some. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm kind of 75. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you give us any update on Anthony Ken's whereabouts? Oh my gosh. You know, a lot of, I get, like, are you related to him? I'm not a lot of him.

I'm not a lot of him. I get that a lot actually. But, you know, I have absolute zero connections that I'm unfortunately not. I'm wondering myself, too, you know. That's absolute zero connections that I want to fortunately have. I'm wondering myself too, you know. That's the exact reaction we get from anyone. Yeah, I know. You can't get a drop in it. A C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C Where do you play Mr. Gulf and Dallas? The two TPC courses. Correct, Ranch.

And at the four seasons, really. I guess, where they have to buy it until they share. This is your first time playing the players, but had you played here? Have you played here in the past? Yeah. The AJA, Jr. players. Actually, this is looking at the lead award, because I was curious who was playing,

and the spese was there. I think J.T. Thomas was there. Ollie Schneider-Jans was there. A lot of good players that you can still see. This got to be fun to look back at. Yeah, it's kind of his. We've been playing against each other for a while now. So it's awesome to see all your kind of high school

friends out here. Where did you go to school? I went to Cal Berkeley. OK, see Berkeley. Were you with Hageeon? Yeah. So some of our listeners may not know your whole background. So yeah, where did you grow up?

What was your path to getting to where you are today? Yeah, so I was actually born in Korea. I moved over to the States when I was eight. I picked up golf, and I was like in a half or so. I grew up in San Diego, California. I played high school golf and Tori Pines high school. Actually, Jamie Lovemark went there, Pap Perez went there, a lot of good players went there.

And then went to UC Berkeley, played with my freshman year, I played with my team, was Max Homa, me, Brandon Haguey. Michael Weaver was red-charing that year, and then I got in case Johnson. Pre-dease as well. Yeah, all knowing up. Oh, no, we love Max.

I know, these are dudes. And then, sophomore year, we actually had three first team-all-Americans and two second-team-all-Americans. Wow. Three first team all Americans and two second team all Americans are top five I'm pretty sure it was a me max weaver Hey, he and getting Joel stalters actually clean your paint or right now So I think we won like 10 out of 13 Yeah, I played Walker cut with I'm the one that had a cooler coffee. Yeah, I played Walker Cut with Bobby Wyatt, Justin Thomas, Patrick Rogers, Max Homa. Where was the Walker Cut that year?

National Golf Links. How much fun is Walker Cut? It's such a blast. Who are the mid-amps? Nathan Smith and Todd White Nathan and Todd they're great Nathan just he's an awesome human being. He's a legend Some of the guys joke that you know, he's gonna be captain one day We want to get our richer amateur status back just for like just just play he's the captain, that's how much we love, like, guy.

That's so good. By 2013, US Open. Yeah, yeah. That was at Marion Co-Experience. You know, was kind of in their on the lead boron Saturday and Sunday for a little bit. So it's an awesome experience. Yeah. So you see, you finished Thmm. Was there any point?

I mean, were you that we were you out there and it sounds like kind of strange question Were you out there believing that you could win it or were you just trying to? Yeah, you know Honestly, to be honest, you know, we go into the week or just like all right. Let's just get to the weekend Yeah, see how it goes And I made it to the weekend relatively comfortably I remember and I played really well on Saturday and on after the 15th whole hours within two shots of the lead I'm then just crumbled like like a launcher really on the last three holes last three three holes the pressure different. I mean yeah, you know

Pressure honestly the pressure wasn't that bad Finishing Parade with on Saturday Saturday I played with Jeff Ogleville and bovam pal then on Sunday I played with Ricky That was I played with Jeff Ogleville and Bovian Pelt and on Sunday I played with Ricky. That was Ricky. He's an amateur. Yeah, that was fun. That's awesome. That's great.

I mean, you hear so many Ricky, Ricky. I mean, I was here like reading just a Ricky the entire day. Which was fun. Yeah, just had a blast. What do you miss most about Amateur Golf? Amateur Golf? Maybe some of the people I've met. Yeah. You know host families. We play some really nice courses. One of my favorite was the Northeast Ham at Wanamoy said country. My wife's the last year. It's on label.

It's part 69. Nice. You don't see a part five until the 17th hole. Well, gnarly greens. I think you can. Gnarly greens. It's fun. The sunny hand is a good one.

Western. Western. I never did well in the Western for some reason Are you going back to the Walker? Uh-huh you guys played shini that week, too. Did you like see me? Well, so So we were invited I think the walk of starts on Friday and we got him you know pretty early Get to New York hang out at the city for a couple days

Get to national on like Monday or something, play national Monday, and the captain goes you know, shinnokox invited us to play on Tuesday, which is kind of funny, and then he leaves like a side note saying like, you know, when I played the walka cup, the captain, when I played the walka, it was at PEPBOL. Sorry, it was at PEPBOL and PEPBOL invited us to play, but I didn't play PEPBOL because I wanted to stay focused on PEPBOL. And so, okay, we're like, where are you going? Yeah, two things like, you know, in the kitchen. You don't want to play Shinnecock and just want to stay focused at national. You know, you're more than welcome to do that. It's crickets, you know, everyone's like, no, we want a question of God.

But unfortunately, I'm going to play Nate's son in Fishin' Yeah, yeah. In Fryerson. Yeah. Unfortunately, Tuesday just dumped the rain like three, four inches of rain that day and it got canceled out. But supposedly we have a rain check there, wherever you want, I haven't been able to. How many of you actually got your left shoulder

getting out there? I'm not allowed to. I think the US Open is coming up to in a couple years to think to do. That's what they just read to the Greens. Core crash order out there. Pictures look nice. Just absolutely awesome.

And tire areas, just unbelievable. So who was on the Euro squad? uh... core crash order pictures of the house entire areas unbelievable so so who is on the who is on the euro squad the british squad the notable ones is Matthew Fitzpatrick was on their uh... nathan kimsey i think

uh... Fitzpatrick was the you know the headliner yet just one of USM. I should remember more honestly, but I just remember the American side. So on this week at the players, have you ever been out to play the new 12th yet? What have you thought of'd come of that? Yeah, I thought I didn't remember a lot of the golf course before I came on-side and played it, but I actually, once I was playing, I kind of remember a lot of the holes. 12 was kind of one of the unique holes out here, and I remember I had a hard time with

it, actually. It's super different. The left side of our memories to be so high, they just completely bulldozed the entire thing. But the green is, it looks kind of sneaky flat, but it's actually like really shaved off on the left side. Honestly, I think I'm just gonna lay up all four days regardless You know, but I think even DJ is like I know I know Six and one like the best driver in the world. It sounds like it sounds like the PGA to a creative situation in which everyone's gonna lay out

That's yeah, that's not good. It's not good. That's not good. That's the end of the brain. You know, I was just kind of, I mean, one of the other than obviously hitting it on the green, the ideal mist would be on the right side there. And I was just chipping to like, if you're the left pans and you could chip it in the water. So that's what I'm on saying.

That's so easy. Oh, they're so easy. And the entire green is kind of slow right to left. So you hit a wet shot just kind of on the middle in the water. So that's what I want to say. That's so easy. And the entire green is kind of slow right to left. So you hit a wet shot just kind of a building where you just feed the pole. So the most part I think I think I think you'll see a decent amount of guys lay up. At least it sounds like a case. Was it? All right. So you're a really a false series, right? I did that about, yeah, a false series, right? I did out of it. Yeah, a good false series.

Yeah. And did that give you kind of a semblance of confidence heading into the season? Yeah, definitely. You know, last year, barely squeaked by to get my card and to start off with a good start. And you know, kind of settled me down for the rest of the year. Yeah. Is the vibe totally different in that fall series? I mean, is it to totally different than this?

Yes, I know. Yes, I know. Yes, I know. It's still feels like obviously a regular season tournament. And two years ago was the worst because I just came off the web.com season. The season just so long. So much better. You're just ready to get through the five.

But this year, you know, they were to prepare a little bit more for it. So now felt, felt, felt, they're good terms. I feel like those, yeah. Well, Blaine's here kicking you out, so we did it. Good afternoon, Blaine. So thanks for coming on me. I appreciate it. Get out of here, Blaine. Alright, yeah. So thanks for coming on me out. I appreciate it.

Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. Thank you.

Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most.

I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different.