No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 810: Valspar Recap

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

Peter Malnati is the Valspar champion - his second win on tour and first in over eight years. We break down Malnati's triumph, plus a look at the week for Cam Young, Keith Mitchell and JT, amongst oth...ers - plus some listener questions. Then it's time for a great deal of speculation around the meeting in the Bahamas between the Tour / SSG and the PIF (43:00). After a careful review of the flight tracking data and how close - or not close - a potential investment deal may be, we move on to Nelly Korda's win on the LPGA tour (53:00) and other news and notes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no laying up podcast. Solly here got my guy TC here. What up TC? How are you? Hey, Solly.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I'm great. I got some allergies going. I'm not in fact crying after Peter Monati's win. This is one of those that back before we had a no laying up podcast, YouTube channel. Nobody would have been able to see what you look like right now. And you look, you look like death. I'm just going to say it right now. Give people a little bit more incentive to go subscribe to our no laying up podcast, YouTube channel, which is brand new.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Big Randy is here as well. Hello, Mr. Big. Hey guys, happy to be here. Crappy, crappy weather out here in Denver. It's like 40 degrees and raining hard. So nice diversion from anything else I'd be doing right now. The No Layup podcast is of course brought to you
Starting point is 00:01:16 by our friends at Titleist. The tee to green choice of your 2024 Valspar champion, Peter Malnati. Starts with the golf ball. Peter was in full control of his Pro V1 X more than seven. Oh, that is exactly right. More than 71% of the field were playing a titleist golf ball this week in Tampa. 71% were not playing a yellow, yellow golf ball, but with Peter's victory,
Starting point is 00:01:39 the Pro V1 and Pro V1 X players now have one 12 of the first 13 events to start the PGA tour season off the T. Peter uses the tours favorite driver. The title is TSR three, which he used to gain nearly three and a half strokes on the field. He's got a blended set of T series iron starting with the T two hundred four iron going to a T one fifty five iron and T one hundreds in the six through nine iron. That is truly a blended set. He added the T 150 at the start of this year looking for a little more height and forgiveness with his five iron and that is the club that he used on the par three 17th on Sunday hitting his tee shot to six feet
Starting point is 00:02:12 for birdies also got four new SM 10 wedges in the bag with 48 degree F grind, the 52 F grind, the 56 M grind and the 60 T grind to finish it off. He gained over eight shots on the field with his Scotty Cameron masterful 1.5 putter. Best players in the world are precisely fit for their golf ball on every single part of their bag. Head to titleist.com to learn more and find a fitting near you. TC even you had to be a little choked up in the post-run interview with, with Peter Montnardy today. Come on, give me something. It was a good win, man. It was a good win. The birdie on 17 was, was extra strong. Hits a great shot into 18. And then, yeah, you know what? It means a lot. It's he had some quotes pre-round or I'm not sure if they were
Starting point is 00:02:56 pre-round or post-round yesterday about how he didn't think he could legitimately win a tournament in like the last eight or nine years, which if that's the case, what are we doing out there guys? Like, but no, I'm, I'm happy for Peter. He's a goober. He kind of feels like the mascot for the PGA tour, but it's feel good. He works hard. He's, he's, you know, he's, uh, he's playing really good golf too. Like that's a, that's a real golf course.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Like you have to hit actual shots. It's not a dog shit putting contest. You gotta work the ball both ways. You gotta drive it well, you gotta chip well, small greens. So anyway, my hat's off to Peter. That was a proper win. Big Randy, were you moved by today? Yeah, you know, it's
Starting point is 00:03:45 nice to see somebody show emotion, right? All jokes aside, it obviously means a ton to Peter and that came through in his post round interview there on the green after winning. And so I do I think that's wonderful. You know, a lot like TC said, he's he can be a, of a goober or whatever you want to call it. A quote goober as I think, as I think what TC was reporting earlier. Yeah. Um, but hey, you know, this week was always going to be a letdown after, after the players.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And so for this ending and, and for Peter and to see how much this wind meant for him, like, of course it's, it's, it's nice. I would, I mean, in like the, uh, from the overall stage that was the players, no matter what it was going to be a let down for both, for what the Valspar is and should be, I did not think this was let down. I think this was a good, good Sunday. The golf was really weird today. Not a lot of great golf. I know it was blustery out there.
Starting point is 00:04:48 The conditions were not easy out there for a really, for the entire week. But there's just so many bad shots going around and, uh, Malnati played an excellent, excellent round of golf, man. He bogeyed the fourth hole, the birdie on six birdie on 10, 11, and 12. And then that dope birdie on the 17th hole, but birdie on six birdie on 10, 11 and 12. And then that dope birdie on the 17th hole in that little stretch there, he dead topped a ball on the fifth hole from the middle of the fairway. And then I forget which hole it was that he had a putt
Starting point is 00:05:16 for birdie that he closed his eyes and looked away thinking he hit such a bad putt and it went right in the middle of the cup. So it was, it was a full performance. but I don't know. I got a little choked up in this poster on the interview just with his kids there and all that stuff. I don't know. There's still a lot of room for that on the PGA tour. It doesn't change a whole lot. I have read a couple of takes saying that this should change things around the PGA tour. It does things. I've got a long ways to go before I get there, but come on, man. That was cool. tour does things. I'm a long ways to go before I get there, but come on, man. That was cool.
Starting point is 00:05:50 We've, we've had, I mean, God knows everybody listening knows that we've had nothing but cynicism and skepticism and pessimism over the last, you know, 24, 36, 48 months and maybe not that far, but yeah, it was nice. It's nice to have a win that truly means something like this to somebody. Randy, listen, I'll add a little bit of pessimism and cynicism here in that like, this is like Jay Monahan and Ed Herlihy's lap dog winning. I mean him or Webb, right?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Sure, but he still won. He did it. But, but he, he still won. He did it. You know, he won. He did it. Yeah. And Sally, I will, I'll give him some credit on the, the top on, on five. He topped it to 130 yards out in the middle of the fairway. It was, it was a great number.
Starting point is 00:06:40 That's a really tough second shot, like straight up this hill. That place, if you've never been there, it is such a... You feel like you're in the Midwest or something. You do not feel like you're in Florida at any point. It never looks like Florida on television. Yeah. It could be Minnesota. It could be outside of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It reminds me more of Olympia Fields than it does anything I've seen in Florida and a lot of hardwoods. But just the way that the land moves up and down those kind of big doonscapes there. It's a, you know, like that, that whole number five, that is straight up a massive hill there. So, uh, you can't fake it around there. You got to hit real golf shots. I'm kind of blown away looking at my naughty numbers. He was fourth in strokes, getting off the tee this week. He is a way worse driver of the golf ball than I ever would imagine.
Starting point is 00:07:30 He's not accurate or long. He is like massively deficient off the tee, which has clearly held him back for a long time. Dude, guys, I was absolutely dying at the memes after the round. Garrett Morrison's tweet absolutely rocked me. Just the meme of, you know, Malnati to can't lay in the next policy board meeting. Put that coffee down. Coffee is for closers. That would just fucking got me so good. So Malnati, did he spend Monday in the presence of the cat, Eldrick, and then takes the tour plane
Starting point is 00:08:07 or takes one of the NetJets planes over to Innis Brooke and feels inspired after the player meeting with Yasser with H.E., your guy, Randy. There were some good memes, Sully. It was yours, right? The wire scene, you know, price of a, what was it? Price of a bricks going up. I saw a few wire things.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I, it, yeah, it, listen, it was, it was a fun, fun to poke, poke fun at him. You know, I liked, we can get into this. I know we are going to get into this, but I enjoyed KVV's tweet. If anybody didn't see that, he said the mules heard the wolves wanted to have them euthanized and they did not like it. No wonder the wolves want to close off the fields before they're exposed to sheep getting fat with Scotty the exception. I'm wondering how many wolves there actually are. This might be like, you know, Yellowstone, when we need to reintroduce some wolves. I'm with you TC. Back in there. I mean, Kam, sorry, what's up with your boy Kam Young?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Let's get to that. He was, why is he my boy also? I don't even, I'm not sure where we can trace this one back to. You and Manfred and you know, the whole MLB and yeah. Just cause I'm back in on baseball I have to be in on campion as well. He's one on the front nine he birdied 11, 12 and 14 but made bogey on the last. What do you think of his decision? Hit driver off 18. I couldn't quite find what he hit
Starting point is 00:09:36 in the earlier parts of this week. He was hitting at about 290 off the tee on most holes. But when he pulled driver there I was just a little bit like huh, okay. I mean, he's really going for this. Pulls it way left, ends up getting it on the green, but three putting from over 50 feet on the final hole. Did that seem like the right play to you guys? When you look at that one, it looks like with his length,
Starting point is 00:09:56 he can hit it past all the bunkers on the left. And he just tugged it. I feel like three would actually leave some more exposed to both the bunkers on the left. And like, you do not want to be in those bunkers on the right. Those are completely boned. So you kind of want to challenge the ones on the left. You know, they're almost like church P bunkers on the right.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It looks like he did pull driver each of the first three days. He had 176, 173, 173 ball speed on the... So it looks like he did do that. He was number one in strokes gained off the tee for the week. Like, dance with who brought you, right? I mean, that's... like he did do that. He was number one in strokes gained off the tee for the week. Like dance with who brought you. Right. I mean, that's. And you needed birdie.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I didn't know it at the time, but like, he probably was thinking like, dude, I need, I need to make a birdie here. Par puts me behind the eight ball. Well, no, our boys on NBC, I apologize. I don't know if it was facts or I'm losing track of who's in that analyst. Like half a dozen of them in the, in the booth. But they were like, Oh, great driver. You know, when, when, when the conditions get tough,
Starting point is 00:10:47 just pull your best, most reliable club. And then he double crosses it and sends it way left. That was chef's kiss stuff right there. Actually, he had a really good shot to take. He did. I thought he was going to be dead for sure. Yeah. But that made me chuckle.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So yeah, I think it's probably the right club, just a bad swing. It happens, but. I was suspiciously, you know, why is it happening on the 72nd hole? I think that's what we gotta get into. Keppel Mark said, did anyone think Cameron Young was actually gonna win?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Just never looks like he's gonna get it done. This is seventh runner up finish, eighth runner up finish now on the PGA Tour without a win. That many? I thought I read seven Wow I mean and on a week where he putted well, you know, he was two and a half shots Up for the week on the greens, you know positive strokes gained there. It's it's oh You know, yeah, it didn't it didn't really look like it was gonna, hey, I'm gonna run away and hide here. It's just.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Here's his runner ups are to Sam Burns twice, to Joaquin Nieman from, to Max Homa, to Cam Smith and to Tony Finau and now Peter Malnati. That's from Max Shriver on, or Matt Shriver. That's a murderers row right there. It is. You know, all he needs is maybe like, maybe to lose to Tommy when Tommy gets one done.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I was gonna say, I was waiting for see how How careful TC was on this one just did not want to present any incriminating evidence We've all heard the fee now case, you know lawyers are gonna be using that the the information presented there for years And I think I was more I think I think I was more concerned with with his leaving the putt so short on 18. And then, you know, and then obviously, you know, he three putts, but he leaves the putt, what, 10 feet short? Yeah, nine feet. He had a 51 foot putt left it nine feet short and then missed that one, which is tough. But, you know, ended up not needing it. And I would have been a little bit more concerned had he been playing in the same
Starting point is 00:12:45 group as Peter and Peter essentially stared him down and went and won it. You know, I think it's a little different when they're when they're in separate groups. Yeah, I mean, cam shot sixty nine, sixty nine, sixty eight, sixty eight, like had three birdies, you know, he birdied eleven, twelve and fourteen on the back today. Like played, played good golf. Yeah. Gain 3.3 shots on the field today. It was not, not that he didn't play a good final round.
Starting point is 00:13:11 He just, man, just keeps it up one, one shot short. And it wasn't like, uh, like if that bogey would have, you know, if Malnati doesn't birdie 17, that does look a whole heck of a lot worse. Um, but Malnati stepped up and hit the shot, man. He did a beast mode. Jacob said, is there a tear in between mule and thoroughbred that we can put cam young in? I can't figure him out. I can't figure out where there's a lot of tears there. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:34 there's no one that should be this talented that, that can't, that doesn't win. Like he is like, he has to be the most talented player. I guess this question for you, TC, who's the most talented player to I guess this question for you, T.C. Who's the most talented player to have not won a PGA tour of it? T.C. T.C. Was Alatouris hasn't either, right? Yeah, he did. He won the Memphis. Willie won.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Oh, that's OK. T.C. is as you think about it, I'll buy you a little time there. I feel like we got to start. I feel like the category is maybe a dressage horse. You know, somebody somebody that looks good prances around. But, you know, what are somebody that looks good prances around, but you know, what are we doing? Guys, I think the most talented player is Tommy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Right. I think, you know, he's got BDE is all over the world. He just hasn't gotten it done. I don't, we're not going to do this tonight. Okay. We're not going to sign up for this. We didn't sign up for this. Eat and sleep golf said likelihood that cam young does a Duvall sometime soon weights and weights and weights Then a flurry of wind once he gets the first one out of the way, that'd be awesome
Starting point is 00:14:34 What do you've all won like four in a row or something? At one point or he won for that like in short order, right? He won a ton in 99. I think it was he, no, so 97 he won, uh, yeah, October 12th, October 19th and November 2nd for his first three wins. Uh, and then peeled off one in February of 98, may of 98, August, 98 and October of 90. God, I do one 13 times in a little over four years and then never won again. I think him's putter just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He drives it so good. He hits his irons really well. He's not a bad putter. He just like, doesn't have the fluke-ish freak weeks, man. It just, he definitely goes in the Xander category of that one eight footer that you need to have. It's just not going in. Like, it's just not like that one putt that you need. It just just not going in. Like it's just not. Like that one putt that you need,
Starting point is 00:15:26 it just is not going in. Yeah, but you look at Hideki, you know, he's kind of in that Hideki category too, of like really good, really good driver, really good ball striker. He just never looks comfortable over the putts either. Like they don't look, it's just not a fluid stroke, but. Should Cam play the Myrtle Beach event
Starting point is 00:15:46 I think that's what I would call on them to do He might need to drop down the level and try to get a win. That's interesting This is not count as dropping down a level to play this event. No, no, I wouldn't consider this It's thoroughly like a mid-tier event. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think this is barbersaw. That's what I mean by dropping down Yeah, but but if there's two tiers, this is a second tier event, right? Yes. Yeah, this isn't like an agree. I would say there's three tiers.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Okay, really? Like there's like, there's two tours. And then there's like a third tour of like, tournaments that do not need to exist anymore. Punta Cana, Myrtle beach, Barbasol. You got to kill the Sanderson. Some of those. Nah, I don't mind the Sanderson. Peter won the Sanderson. That's what I'm saying. I think some of these guys, maybe we drop down, find our level, get some wins and then we'll reintroduce them.
Starting point is 00:16:37 TC. Kind of a big tone did, right? These wolves, they're not used to these wild environments. We got to raise them a little bit and then start reintroducing them. So this is basically the fifth weakest field of a PGA Tour event so far this year. Ahead of Sony, Cognizant, Mexico, and Puerto Rico, just behind farmers, Amex, waste management of all.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So it's mid-tier of the mid-tier, right? Of the non- I would say's mid tier of the mid tier, right? Of the non. I would say by the end of the season, by the end of the regular season, this will be top half of the lower tier. Yeah. Like this goes firmly ahead of 3M and John Deere and, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Can we address something that I just, I want to address. I saw this trickling through after the round of just like this is why full field events matter. This is why like things should not change on the PGA Tour. What is this possibly change about anything? This is a reflection of a tour that has these limited events, right? That has, you know, all these other limited events, which has is supposed to have this kind of trickle down effect to getting stronger players in these non elevated signature events,
Starting point is 00:17:49 whatever the PGA tour schedule still has a ton of full field events. This is one of them. Like it's not, it's not going to rate very well. Like, I don't know how great for business that all this is, but it exists, right? If you're a fan of this, this exists today. It existed last year. It existed the year before, and it's going to exist in some form and fashion in the future. I don't get this like pretending that this kind of thing is going to go away. Can somebody help me with that? It feels a little bit straw manny. Yeah. Like, you know, hey, like nobody's saying that the Valspar needs to be 50 guys or 70 guys. No, literally nobody is saying that. There's going to be like the limited field events and there's going to be these ones.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Well, I guess I'll be the public defender here because I do believe it a little bit. It's like, why can't, what's the point of the signature event? You know, I know it's like we got to get the best of the signature event. You know, I know it's like, we got to get the best of the best together. We got to try to like artificially guarantee a good, exciting leaderboard. And I, I'm not, that's, that doesn't carry a ton of water with me, I guess. When we see, you know, guys who are supposedly cream of the crop, like they, they just don't show up that often. Scheffler's doing his thing. supposedly cream of the crop. Like they just don't show up that often. Scheffler is doing his thing and besides that it's tough to find many guys that are deserving of these signature events.
Starting point is 00:19:10 These closed events. You kind of made the point for it right there. Like yeah, you know, you get all the best players in the world together artificially create a good leaderboard. That literally is the point, right? Like I don't know how to refute that. You kind of made the point for us there. No, I guess my thing is like, do they need that much help? I'd rather like the best of the best. Just just play well week in and week out.
Starting point is 00:19:34 There's two. I think there's two. There's almost too much parody at this point. Right. There's no dogs anymore. There's no dogs and killers. I think it's one of those things where I think Sally really ran into your point of the, like, why do we need these? If the tour is not going to differentiate them and do anything to make them feel elevated and distinct, then I think that question becomes a lot more important and a lot louder. I think if they did, I think you I think you can, you can put together a really good tournament with 70 guys and focus on those guys and have twosomes and make it feel, Hey, this feels like a big deal.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I think you can do that a lot more easily with 70 guys than you can with 144 guys, just from an operational perspective. But the tour is not making those extra steps to differentiate and improve the product and make it feel big and make it feel like, hey, you know what, like the setups and all sorts of factors go into this. And even like the TV broadcast and CBS has done it a little bit,
Starting point is 00:20:38 but like the players, like, all right, NBC, you should be treating your signature events like the players, like the TV product should, like you should be treating your signature events like the players like the TV product should feel like that. And they're not. Yeah, I guess again, if you look back at the signature events this year, we had Wyndham Clark win in 54 holes, which like Ludwig was probably going to run him down. If they had another day to play there, we had a deck issued a final race. We're on
Starting point is 00:21:02 the same team there with Ludwig TC. Come on, we established that. The deck he shot a final round 63 to go run away with the Genesis and then number one player in the world. One, two of them, like it's kind of, you know, it hasn't, you know, we, the JTs, the Rory's, the speeds have not played good enough. And that's kind of like, at this point though, those guys like the JT and speed side is carrying more star power than they are great golf at this point. Like in terms of Q rating, whereas like, uh, I don't know, it's tough to look at. And I look back at last year too with the signature events, those did carry the, like those, those did produce some fantastic leaderboards and fantastic events, uh, up through the masters really. So, um, I don't know. I,
Starting point is 00:21:40 I also just don't want to downplay the whole thought of like getting all these guys to stop cherry picking these events and like, no, you're all essentially gonna play them. Sure, a cup one or two guys are gonna miss one or two of these, but like, I left out Chris Kirk winning the first one, that's my bad. But that's still really valuable to say,
Starting point is 00:21:57 no, we are gonna isolate these events, there's gonna be more money, more points, and you're all gonna play them. It's still the best thing the PGA Tour can offer. I really do think that's the best thing they can offer. I guess I just don't feel... I think some of the criticism that I've read and I think it's a little fair. I know the Tour is trying to have turnover in the fields of these signature events, but I just don't think there's maybe enough turnover or there's so much parody beyond
Starting point is 00:22:27 a dozen guys that it feels a little closed off artificially. I think that's what makes me a bit uncomfortable is you're talking about guys bringing star power but the results aren't really matching. And that's where I'm like, well then what are we doing? Because I like golf being a true meritocracy. And I know it's not like the truest of true meritocracies, but I do feel like if you play well enough and can get in a tournament and then you go win,
Starting point is 00:22:57 like good on you. Here's what other than the sponsor exemptions though, Randy, it is a meritocracy. Like you qualify through your golf scores. Like that's, you got to shoot the scores to get in the tournaments. You had to do it last year. You got to, if you want the swing five or whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:11 like it's not a, it's not a close. Yeah. And again, I'm not, I'm not going to put you on the spot on this Randy, but like for anyone that, that, that follows that logic, I do, I'm dead serious. I want to know, like give me the five names that are like shut out of these events that like, that it's diminishing this event. I know what I mean. Like it's if I just look at it, it's like,
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, I do think there's gonna be enough turnover to like, I'm looking at it right now. Like, they there's dog shit at telling the story. But like, Keith Mitchell right now, he's 58th FedEx Cup this year, like a good finish would have gotten him inside the top 50. These guys, they need to do a better job of telling the story of these middle guys that are trying to get, bump up from 70th or 80th into the 45, 48, 49. I think that that top 50 number, building that context and telling that story is a big thing. And, you know, again, like, I'm not sure if you guys saw the thing that the PGA tour put up on NBC yesterday before the golf started. Unfortunately, I was like, my parents were in town and I actually said, Hey guys, I need
Starting point is 00:24:17 you to wait in the other room because I need to watch this programming before the Valspar is what happened. What was it called? An hour on network television called Credentialed, which essentially was just like recapping the Bay Hill. It was so oddly placed. I'm like, who's watching this? Somebody's watching this like getting Jack to watch Bay Hill, right?
Starting point is 00:24:37 And then it's like, oh no, we're actually at Valspar. It was one of the most pointless pieces of program I've ever seen before. And they probably had dozens and dozens and dozens of hours of meetings at the global home to talk about this and figure out the storytelling element of all this. Meanwhile, the LPGA has to buy network TV time and they're throwing this on it. One or two. Yeah. A third hour on golf Channel yesterday because of the damn champions tour.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And then they ran late and stayed. Well, God, we can talk about that. So, I think to your point, I'm not sure if there are five individually, you know, I'm not sure week to week there are individual people that are like missing or that anybody would like to see. I think it's the idea of if you have the larger fields, it gives somebody a chance to have a career week, get a win at a big event, which could propel them on to bigger and better things.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But I feel like there's there's what 20 or 25 of those tournaments for those guys to do that. Like Paul Nottie just did that. Yeah, right. So he gets into the other ones. I feel like if you give those guys an opportunity to do it, I don't know. I have no issue with the two different tours thing now. I just tighten up the exemptions a little bit more and tell us, all right, this is what something means. I know they're working out kinks and Tyler Dennis has all of his computer models going back office and all that, but it may take a little bit of time, but I'm, I think if you're going to have a cut, like you can have a hundred guys then, right? Like it's,
Starting point is 00:26:12 it's like, what's the right number? Is it 70? Is it a hundred is 140? I think having a hundred dudes, that's a perfect golf tournament size. Would you give up everybody going off the first tee for, for 30 more spots? What's the limit there? I don't know. It depends on the time of year, right? I mean, as we get later and later in the year now, you have more of a window there. But that's that's a non zero factor for me big is getting everybody off one on Thursday and Friday. Yeah, I mean, flipping on Thursday, Friday coverage, everybody coming down the final stretch
Starting point is 00:26:40 instead of flipping between both sides of the golf course. You know that everybody I don't know, they lose track of guys way more on Thursday, Friday. That's a, I don't know, that's a separator for me. I don't think like you should a lot of these courses, I think that the finishing stretch is, you know, meant to be the finishing stretch for a reason. Somebody put the the idea out there of if you miss the cut in one of these designated or out there of if you miss the cut in one of these designated or signature events that has a cut like Bay Hill or Memorial or Riv, then you can't tee it up in the next signature event.
Starting point is 00:27:13 That was me. That was you. That was me. That's so sick. I'm like, I could not be more in on that, Randy. Like there needs to be downside risk too. That's I, and it's, I mean, obviously it was a joke when I, I, it was Bay Hill week when I tweeted that, but, but I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Like if, if, if you're going to reap the upside rewards, then have a little bit of downside risk too. Just got to throw this in there. If you're going to ask companies to get the best players, that's one. And if you're going to ask companies for 25 million bucks and you find out Rory missed the cut the week before it isn't playing your event might be a little difficult to get that 5% escalator that next year in the next contract or whatever that would be. Just like, yeah, business reasons why a lot of this stuff happened has to at least get mentioned whether or not I agree with you a big, it's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:02 I, I have no confidence in NBC being able to elevate certain events. So I guess what I would ask is why don't we, why don't we, what's the opposite of elevate? Diminish? Drawing a blank. Yeah, why don't I think NBC needs to diminish then certain events like we have to create some separation. They diminish stuff more than they're currently diminishing. That's good. I to create some separation. I think that's the only way we're going to do it. That's good.
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Starting point is 00:30:19 Tough. I hated it. I know he was he was he shot 40 on the front nine I hated it. I hated it. He was, he was, he shot 40 on the front nine, then he bogeyed 10, bogeyed 12, doubled 13, and then he eagled 14. That was sick. And birdied 18 as well. So tough, tough go of it for, for Keith. He's starting to, you know, he's starting to poke his head out though. I'm. He's playing some good golf. It's some interesting comments. He said this off season in a team meeting because my strokes gain approach relative to the field
Starting point is 00:30:51 was very poor. There's some skews in there relative to your driving, but it still shouldn't be that poor. I was technically losing my card almost every year in strokes gain approach. It's just unacceptable out here, especially when I have the technique to do it if I can hit my driver like I do.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So it was all distance control. I learned that. Fortunately, I hate that it took this long, but it's let better late than never. Just some to flag me three or four years ago. That's exactly that's that's what I had with my team. Yeah. I was like, you know what, like, we're like, we're not going to practice like what can we do that's going to make it to where we're just gonna raise our floor and it was distance control on
Starting point is 00:31:23 the irons. I'm being dead serious. And so, you know, I'm glad Keith, Keith and the team figured that out as well. I know he's listening in his car probably, a whole high pie would love this part of the conversation. Our guy DJs, you know, he's always whole high, but it has always confounded me how Keith can be such a great driver of the ball
Starting point is 00:31:41 and not be, you know, not even be average in strokes gained approach or in approach play. So just wanted to flag that in terms of if he really does have his, uh, his approach numbers figured out and whatnot, he's, he's going to strike again. He's going to have a really good chance. He had an incredible back nine, five years for him. Yeah. His last one was 2018 Honda. Yeah. Um, he on Saturday, he, he was four under par or three under par, leaving the sixth green on Saturday, birdied seven, birdied 12, birdied 14, finished birdie, birdie, eagle, hold out from
Starting point is 00:32:12 the fairway on 18 to shoot 29 on the back, shoot 66 and take a two shot lead into the final round. But he had the left, put the left miss in play also like TC on that final round, him and Seamus Power. I'm hoping the Irish are reaching out to you to apologize for Se TC on that final round him and Seamus power. I'm hoping the Irish are reaching out to you to, um, to apologize for the first Seamus powers final round performance TC. Yeah. Especially after Seamus, you know, did his interview with Paul Kimmage in the, uh, is it the Irish independent? Uh, you know, I don't think a few of the, a few of the Irish sent sent sent that over as well. I said, that's not registering with me.
Starting point is 00:32:45 You don't need to send me the Irish independence exclusive with the shameless power. That's a, that's a worst final round vibe, man. He shots a 76 and Keith shot 77 13 over, or excuse me, 11 over, uh, coming out of that final pairing. It was almost, I think NBC almost forgot about them. They only showed the final putts. I think, I think they missed their approach shots at 18.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Chandler Phillips had a good week. T3 with McKenzie Hughes, T3 as well. Not McKenzie was going to, for a while, I thought he was going to run away with this thing today. Birdie's 10 and then he's kind of in the catbird seat at bogeys 12 and 13. I've never been less surprised to read that Chandler Phillips is a Texas A&M guy.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like, god, that made so much sense. God's honest question, Randy. Had you heard of Chandler Phillips before this week? No, no. That's why I had to look up who he was and where he's from and all that. I was like, oh, Texas A&M. Oh, yeah, that makes total sense. And then I watched that clip of them doing the little
Starting point is 00:33:45 cheer practice before their tournament. Oh, God, take it all the way. Yeah, you had scam champ up near the top this week too for for a big bulk of the week as well. You know, it's all about ball speeding posture. NBC cannot resist themselves. Xander finished probably three hours before the final group is scheduled to come through. He had a putt to get to minus eight
Starting point is 00:34:05 and they do an Olympics thing that no, they know they faked like he had a shot to win of, you know, yeah, I might wait around here. I don't know that might might be good enough as if, you know, you know, he was one shot behind I think at the time as if there was no tour pro that was going to run out and shoot a number that he finished four shots back in the tie for fifth with Carl, you and Ryan Moore and Adam Hadwin. JT in round three, he had lost over seven strokes putting,
Starting point is 00:34:32 which this is from Rick Rungood, by far the worst putting round of his career. He had 38 total putts. He had 22 feet, 10 inches of total putts made, Randy. He made a two foot nine inch putt on the first hole and didn't make anything longer than that for the rest of the day. Justin Ray tweeted a day after losing more than seven
Starting point is 00:34:51 strokes in the greens, JT had minus point four, seven strokes in putting in a final round 71. In the last three PGA tour seasons, there have been more than 33,000 rounds measured by shot link only four times as a player lost seven strokes putting in that span. He had a three putt from 26 feet on two. He missed from five feet, seven inches on three,
Starting point is 00:35:11 five feet, seven inches on five. He three putted from 10 and a half feet on seven, which included a miss from two feet, three inches. He missed from four feet on eight and three putted from 54 feet on 14. Did the hole by hole? Like if you just scroll through his play by play, it's, it's really, really tough. But he said after the round, my putter didn't feel that bad in my hands.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I've had plenty of bad putting days where I feel like I can't get it in the hole. Yesterday was not one of them. I burned a lot of edges after one of the most, it was a true, like just couldn't make any sense. Orically bad putting days effort. He said his dad called him after the round. He was like, Hey man, are you okay? I can't find what's up.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's like, I saw your putting stats. It wasn't, it's not that you've got a Yip situation going on here. Cause he gained on, on Thursday and on Friday and barely lost anything on, on Sunday. He, he was, he was positive strokes, gave putting the rest of the week, except for Saturday. He lost seven strokes on on Sunday. He he was he was positive strokes, keep putting the rest of the week except for Saturday and he lost seven strokes on the green. So are we worried about
Starting point is 00:36:11 you know, we have a question from Brandon dud does JT or speed win anything this year? Should TV stop showing them as much as a two different questions, I think but I'm curious, do you think JT or pose it to you? Are you worried about JT? I think JT and speed, they're two different stories. You worried about JT? I mean, I'm less worried than last year. He's played better golf this year than he did
Starting point is 00:36:32 over the course of last year. But do I think he's like knocking down the door of a victory? Not necessarily. I mean, the putting putting really hasn't been good for, I mean, going back to like 2018, like it's been quite some time since he's posted, you know, solid putting numbers, ball striking his way up. Iron
Starting point is 00:36:49 play is back bounced all the way back to kind of the levels that it should be off the tee looks very, very similar. He just still is, is, you know, below average putter on the PGA tour. I mean, he's like a worse part of the scouting. Is it like the putting in a certain range or is it just all distances, all links? It's a great question, TC, and I don't have that answer off top my head.
Starting point is 00:37:10 But are you guys worried? Do you think he wins a tournament this year? Good question. Let me turn that question. Does it matter? I mean, I guess a major. I don't know. I think what I'm most disappointed about,
Starting point is 00:37:25 and I'll answer that question by saying this, is like these guys, these JT, Spieth, you're exactly right, they're just another guy most weeks. And that's really sad to see. So I'm disappointed there. I have no confidence. I fully don't expect either to win week to week when they tee it up anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, I'm pretty, I'm pretty worried about the Lynx master, Jordan. His approach play was god awful this week. Shot 74 in the second round. That's the one I'm worried about. I think JT, you know, JT's fits and starts. He gets hot and cold, but I, you know, Jordan's floor just seems too low. It's starting, I'm starting to worry. but I, you know, Jordan's floor just seems too low. It's starting, I'm starting to worry. Thank you for coming around on this TC. I've been trying to warn you about this for a couple of years now.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You've been trying to talk me out of this, but it's worth noting for JT. Again, I know this is dull to a lot of people, but his strokes gain going back to 2017 by year is plus 2.24, 2.23, 1.9, 2.32, 1.92, 1.97. Then last year it fell all the way down to 1.11. Now it's back at 1.84. So like he's in line with kind of what he's done. Again, it's ball, it's the putting that's still holding that back
Starting point is 00:38:36 from being that above two number that you're really looking for. And Spieth has had a decent start to the year, but it's been all putting and chipping. Like the ball striking has really, really, really not been there. He's essentially like an average iron player now on tour. And like he was that's the part that sucks worries. Yeah, it's it's it's really not good.
Starting point is 00:38:55 There was a really, really good question that we got on here. And I'm going to try to find it here. OK. Eat and sleep golf said JT Rory Spieth DJ Ricky Brooks. How many of those guys have without a doubt already peaked? My initial reaction is all of them. I'm worried that's mine as well, Randy. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think that feels I mean, who has also my question. Well, I mean, you know, DJ Peach, because he played like the best golf hole of all time. Ricky's 35 years, three months. I'm like, well, if that was an SAT question, Ricky's like, why? Why is Ricky in there?
Starting point is 00:39:39 So I mean, Ricky's five years older than JT. Like JT is only 30. He turns 31 next month. I would not say that JT has peaked. I mean, he's won two majors, but like, you know, his major championship performance, you know, major, major in, major out, however you want to say it, has not been fantastic. Like I think he can still really elevate his major championship performances. And I don't think, I don't think we've seen the best of, I think speed has definitely peaked. I mean, it's been seven years since we've seen peak speed. I hope JT hasn't peaked.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I mean, I think it'd be good for golf if he found another gear. I just, I'm just tired of waiting around and hoping that it comes. Does that make sense? It kind of feels like the prospect that has, he's like the five tool player and he has put together, you know, some flashes, a few good seasons, but you're like, he's like the five tool player and he has put together, you know, some flashes, a few good seasons, but you're like, man, like you're, you need to be an MVP candidate every year with your level of talent. And, you know, and, and, and then he, he just, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:38 the other black mark on him is that he, all he does is win limited field events. That's a good thing. That could be a great thing where the tour is at. You never know. Stu Sink made his 500th cut on the PGA tour. I know that was a big move for you, TC. Somebody told me that yesterday. Party doctor told me that yesterday. He said, I said, no, this had to be his 500th tournament.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He's like, no, he's made 500 cuts. That's crazy. That's so many cuts. That's impressive. As hell. It's different than making a tournament start. As you're saying, you're not going to shit on this. Well, yeah, it's like five, like 500 cuts.
Starting point is 00:41:16 That's all right. That's basically 25 cuts a year for 20 years. I mean, that's like, like 25 cuts a year. Like that's unheard of. Right. So, so really 20 cuts a year for how many years? 15 years or no? You've totally screwed me up with the math here. Yeah, I can't do math anymore. 25 cuts a year, four times would be a hundred. And so, you know, you multiply that 16 years, 16 years of making 25 cuts is it's pretty freaking insane. How old is he? He's 50. He's 50. He'll
Starting point is 00:41:54 be 51 in a couple months. It's impressive. Which brings me on that question. Next question. The app, it broke down on Saturday. Like, as you say, are we going to lose to sync to live? I got a bunch more players not going to go to live because the app crashed. I think there's four or five more that are going to go because of the app and then because of credentialed as well. Credentialed was tough guys. It was tough.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Why were you watching it, Randy? But well, because DJ said something about it in our Slack and I was sitting on the couch and flipped it on. And then it's like you just start getting angry and hate watching it. And, you know, one thing turns into another and I've watched it for 35 minutes. And literally, it taught me nothing. You know, they went through the Mr. Palmer, slurping Mr. Palmer, a history of Bay Hill. The only mildly thing that I didn't know about
Starting point is 00:42:45 was they profiled a local artist who was doing some charity, quote, in your face golf artwork, which, you know, whatever. But it's just like, what are we doing? What is this for? Who is this serving? It was tough. Probably a sponsor, Randy.
Starting point is 00:43:02 That's almost always the answer. There was a big meeting down in the Bahamas this week. Uh, I, the highlight for me was definitely the flight tracking shout to radar Atlas just absolutely. Uh, you know, it was on the, it was on the tails of the PJ tour plane, both planes that were coming over from Saudi Arabia. All the, uh, the John Henry's all the SSG planes coming in and out. Who, who was the celebrity that was also flying down in Nassau Bahamas that they threw in there?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Tyler Perry, Tyler Perry was headed down there. I have to assume he's involved with SSG. Honestly, not a lot of leaks came out of this. We've heard a couple things that aren't really like, you know, reportable, but didn't sound like things were especially close was the only, you know, reportable, but didn't sound like things were especially close was the the only, you know, not hearing that from somebody that was definitely not in the room for that, but did not sound like
Starting point is 00:43:52 that, you know, it was all, all like, Hey, let's all get back together. We're super close to this. And that's not the vibe I got. Yeah, it sounded like the yasser doubling down on live, like, hey, no, like, lives, lives gonna be a part of this, guys. Liv's gonna be, you know, continuing on. It's gonna outlive me, which, you know, H-E might live forever, right?
Starting point is 00:44:15 So we'll see. Monahan made a statement to the players. He said, the conversation throughout was constructive and represents an important part of our due diligence process in selecting potential investors for PJ Tour Enterprises. This mirrors the approach we employed earlier this year as we evaluated an investment offer from the Strategic Sports Group. During the session, Yasser had the chance to introduce himself to our player directors, talk through his vision, priorities, and motivations for investing in professional golf. As we continue these
Starting point is 00:44:41 discussions with the PIF, we will keep you updated as much as possible, but please understand that we need to maintain our position of not conducting negotiations in public to that end. We will provide no further comments to the media at this time. Amen Lynch had an article in Golf Week as well. I found a part of it particularly interesting. He said if you ask John Henry, the leader of strategic sports group would just invested one and a half billion in the tour.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He might argue that his product would be measurably improved if the aforementioned defectors were in the fold again. But despite the problem about unifying the game and seeing the best compete together again, many tour members are disincentivized to see that happen, which is why active players should not be on this jury. What's best for individual members, even a large constituency of them, isn't necessarily best for the TOR's commercial prospects.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But convincing members of a member-led organization that their interests are not the same as the TOR's interests is akin to persuading Irish Republicans that their best future lies in allegiance to the British monarchy." that to be just an interesting note of like the quagmire that we have here of like the PGA tour players have a majority on this board and like, yeah, do you, you're not necessarily incentivized to take a long-term approach on this one as it stands now. I tend to agree with his, his larger point. I'm not going to touch the Irish Republican, especially as a loyalist as yourself, Randy. Exactly. Um, guy King Charles, he's in all sorts of your thoughts and well wishes. Exactly. You're Guy King Charles. We appreciate your thoughts and well wishes, yes, during this troubling last few days. But yeah, it reminds me of any typical situation that's kind of, you know, like, Sully, I was thinking back to with the Great Recession and, you know, the banks, would it have been in their interest to like step back and stop making subprime mortgages, right, at the height of like that being a money machine?
Starting point is 00:46:38 No. But would it have been like best for the overall economy and like world? Of course. And so I think that's the overall economy and like world? Of course. And so I think that's the point Eamon was trying to make. And I think it's a fair one. But I don't know, you know, I don't know who, like, right, we can say it's the right point, but yeah, what's it going to change or how is that going to change anything? I don't think anybody's equipped to be able to make a unilateral decision for the tour.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Where are the parents? It's like, right. At the end of the day, it's like, we're not going to, yeah, it just makes it more depressing, I guess. Yeah. He continued on the equity being distributed to players as an opportunity to reset the parameters of their role in tour governance. They are shareholders, not owners.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Activist shareholders, sure, but not the ultimate decision makers. That distinction was lost when players used Discord over the secretive framework agreement to demand a built-in majority on the board, which they also hold at the new for-profit entity, PJ Tour Enterprises. So. I'll flip that on its head though a little bit of,
Starting point is 00:47:41 you know, they didn't have the majority before and Jay, like the thing is now it's like, all right, you have a majority, get your block together and send a message to Jay and to the independent directors on the board and say, all right, we got the majority now and do something with it instead of just the worst thing in the world is just going with this status quo that nobody's happy players or fans or sponsors and everything's just getting shittier and shittier. It's like at some point, all right, players, if you're gonna grab the steering wheel here, then you know what, grab the steering wheel and do something with it.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Either like wreck the car, but do it quick, right? So we can so we can get towed and rebuild it. You know, it sounds like an insurance scam here, but that might be the right, that might be the play right here. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm so over it, man. It's, it's, it's exhausting, but more good news. The players drew three and a half million viewers, which is down from 4.1 and 23 and down from 4.6 of JT winning in 2021, which is funny too. Cause it was such a, it was like a far better tournament this time around too. But I think that represents that's the sentiment though, man.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Like you, when you have like no momentum rolling in, it's not top of mind. Like honestly, my F1 viewing habits are way down because the competitive structure has been kind of totally boned and like I don't think to watch it. Like I this Carlos science had a win today. Verstappen did not win. I missed the whole thing because I had two had two guys in the points that they really I totally missed that. See, it's like, when you got lose your momentum and lose the buzz, you
Starting point is 00:49:22 know, it's it's reflected there. It did not surprise me despite a good finish good tournament, that it's not there. It did not surprise me, despite a good finish, good tournament, that it's not top of mind for people to flip that on. So. Yeah, it's, I don't know, it's bleak. So a couple of guys I wanted to shout out on the Valspar leaderboard,
Starting point is 00:49:36 if I can go down the board for a sec here, just to go back. Randy, you're gonna regulate this. I'm always the bad guy, you regulate it, okay? Okay. I do have to give the Canadian. I want to talk LPG. We're going to get there.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And I know he does too. I know. Uh, I just want to shout out the Canadians had went, had a T five. Obviously we talked about McKenzie Hughes earlier and then, uh, they had somebody else in the mix too. I think Spencer was playing, playing well. He kind of ejected this weekend. Roger Sloan made a cut.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Let's see here. We got Carl Yuan. It keeps popping up. Bez keeps popping up. I think Billy Horschel is starting to heat up in a big way. Just want to get that out there. I think right in time for the Harbor town. Although Billy might not get into Harbor town, but like the Zurich, kind of that post-master's stretch that he tends to feed on a little bit. He was T12. You're not following home. And then otherwise, I just wanted to call out Sungjae shot 80 and missed the cut. Sungjae
Starting point is 00:50:38 needs to start getting some of the cam young treatment as well. Because those two to me are like, they're kind of like beavers and butthead. That I'm over Sanjay. I mean, you've you've had your time to make a move here. And you're just doing absolutely nothing with this. You are in a category of your own. I don't think he deserves to be mentioned the same sentence as cameo. I know he has a win. But, you know, I do I don't think he deserves it. Wow, strong statement. I mean, when it't think he deserves it. Wow. Strong statement.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I mean, when, when has he ever been a factor? Like what was the last time some jib was a factor in a time with you? I, hell yes. Holly. I'm, I'm riding right here. Shotgun with you. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I, nobody got more love for being like the best ball striker in the world, but it's like, well, what's he, what's he, what does that amount to? Uh, nice check. Randy, I want to go to LPGA too the world, but it's like, well, what's he, what's he, what does that amount to? Yeah. Uh, nice check. Randy, I want to go to LPGA too, because first, first and foremost, the fur hills. Hold on. Before we get there, we got to get this. There's a reason why I got to play quarterback here.
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Starting point is 00:53:00 probably not gonna be good. They almost never are. But gosh, it was just a delight to flip on that golf tournament this weekend. Solly, uh, fur hills. Can I give you their corporate tagline? I think you're going to like this catalyzing growth for perpetual prosperity. I mean, they're taking the torch from Grupo Salinas and running with it in a
Starting point is 00:53:23 big way, but no, that was, that was proper conditions. Good golf course, much like Valspar, like the Copperhead course at Innisbrook. You can't fake it down there in Palos Verdes. It was, uh, and I was really happy to see Nelly winning in some tough conditions, a little cooler. You know, she can kind of be a little bit of a dome golfer at times, and she's starting to stack up some wins. Yeah, she is. And she alluded to that a little bit in her interview
Starting point is 00:53:49 after winning. You know, she said that conditions the last couple days, it forces you to hit some golf shots and play a bit artistic, which honestly for her is, I was like, that's a big deal to hear her talking about that because Nellie historically has been like obsessed with the swing and the mechanics of the swing and optimizing the look of her
Starting point is 00:54:18 swing and it is a gorgeous golf swing. But the question has always been, you know, TC, is she much of a mudder? Can she grind? And some wobbles down the stretch, which we can talk about. But man, when she needed to, you know, she made that putt in the playoff hole right in the heart. That was impressive. And really, her play this weekend overall was pretty impressive in some tough conditions. I mean, it was absolutely whipping. I mean, the wind was absolutely whipping. I mean, it was about as strong as I can remember for watching an LPGA Tour event.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I mean, it was cold out there that some fire earmuffs were brought out by a lot of the players. There was some great- Yeah, I need those Titleist earmuffs that Ryan O'Toole had on. They're awesome. Some fire outfits going as well, if I may say. But it was, what was the part five on the back?
Starting point is 00:55:04 I was at the 16th hole. I mean, there you're seeing there's so much land movement. They actually one of the weird things about it was, you know, the kind of dial back LPGA coverage, not as many cameras. Some of the really long range stuff that they shot really showed off the landscape really well. I mean, shooting like probably from the T to the middle of the fairways showing how blind a lot of these shots were and there was a shot she hit into into 17 that I mean they stayed on her from the fairway
Starting point is 00:55:31 and they showed her like running up to the top of the hill and you could see even from the T camera you could see how high her ball bounced in front of the green like that's how firm it was out there and how downwind it was and she hit two awesome shots into both of the par fives on the back. And I made Eagle on the first one and then two putter for birdie on the second one, bogey the last two holes, which was tough, but man, it was very seriously tough out there. Like it was about as the, you know, the wind was affecting pots. Alison Lee got done pretty dirty on a couple of a shortish range putts that
Starting point is 00:56:00 were just did not take the break because the wind held them up. But I mean, that was some, some really good golf and some really fun conditions. Yeah. Playoff hole birdie, you know, birdie, the playoff hole to win. That's, that's proper shit guys. It's it was, it was going in like the, the, the leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:56:19 How was that? Like midway through Saturday, I remember texting you guys being like, oh, this is like, this is serious. This is like a major championship leaderboard here. Yeah, Gabby Ruffles played well, Alison Lee, Andrea Lee, GI Shin was kind of out in front for a while. Randy we're talking about Sarah Schmelzel. Having a really good agent for her. Yeah, she's starting to, you know, kind of
Starting point is 00:56:44 put put a few in a row together. Want to pause on Gabby ruffles for a second. I mean, she, you know, famously did not forgot to sign up for LPGA tour, Q school dominated on the Epson tour and had a putt on 18. She was not her best effort on a putt, but she had a very good look on 18 to get into a playoff. But, you know, almost running down Nelly Corda on that golf course was set some serious golfing.
Starting point is 00:57:08 She I'm glad you said that because she had a she had a pretty good birdie look on 17 as well. The part three there, Gabby, I think Gabby somebody that we've always said, is one of those players that the tougher the conditions get, I feel like Gabby is going gonna rise up the leaderboard. Like she just is so steady, so solid, and that played out this week and I mean her Saturday 65 was exceptional and then to follow it up today with a 70, bit of bad luck on the 9th she doubled. I was disappointed she
Starting point is 00:57:42 didn't give it a better run that Bertie put on 18. You know, it just was never high enough, never fast enough, but awesome, awesome result for Gabby and somebody that has fully earned her card for this year and is just getting going now being a full-time LPGA player. I expect big things from her. She'll win this season. For sure. I think so too. And then back to Nellie real quick. I mean, I just I don't want to before we move on that, like just to pause on that to say like, you know, a lot of LPGA setups can just be dark contest wedge contests and just aren't not very good test. This is a totally different category. Like
Starting point is 00:58:19 if you go do it in that conditions with that field, and that's a totally that's a this is a huge, huge leap for Gabby ruffles like that is I don't know that stick that really does stick out to me. Yeah, amen. And then just getting back to Nellie. I mean, I think we should acknowledge it's it's her 10th LPGA to her victory. She did not win on the LPGA last year battled some injuries is fully healthy and now has won two starts in a row, two over three starts in 2024. And everybody's projecting Will grab the number one
Starting point is 00:58:53 ranking in the world from Lilia Vu. So TC, I know we talked about a lot in our LPGA shows and just wanting to see Nelly's reaction after the year Lillie Avu had last year, winning four times, two majors, like, like really taking the crown of not only best American golfer, but best golfer in the world. It's really heartening to see Nelly come back early in the year, get a couple of wins. And it just makes me really excited for what's in store the rest of the year. I Nelly was putting it awful towards the end of last year, really worked on that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Looks healthy. And I think, yeah, starting to starting to pay it off a little bit, which is which is sweet. One other thing I'm super glad to see is quite a few European flags on that leaderboard. You got Gemma, you got Lynn Grant, Leona McGuire, Frieda Kinhol, Linnea Strom, you got all sorts of, it's kind of been been a, you know, they've kind of been lurking below the surface a
Starting point is 00:59:59 little bit. It's another solo hand cup here and you need the European team to, to really, you know, probably have a little bit more depth than they did last year coming across the pond. You need them to have a little more Charlie coming this way across. Charlie Hall was up there. She doubled 17 and bogied 18 to kind of fall back, but she was mounting a pretty strong charge at points today. Tweaked her back. It sounded like on the telecast. So maybe something to keep an eye on, but, um, yeah, this was just Palace Verde is, is just a quirky golf course. You know, the LPGA especially does not go to many golf courses.
Starting point is 01:00:37 There are some, but not many where you're like, damn, I'd really like to play that golf course, but watching Palace Verde is like, I would love to go out there and play it. It looks like a lot of fun shots. Yeah, one other person I want to shout out Lucy Lee. I think she's got an inside track at a Solheim Cup spot on the US side as well. Like she keeps playing well there you know get some more young talent on that team too. So start of the year for the LPGA tour, Lydia Ko won the Hilton Grand Vacations. Nellie Cordo won the drive on. Patty Tavitannikit won the Honda LPGA. Hannah Green won the HSBC. Bailey Tardy, Randy's Girl won the Blue Bay LPGA and then now Nellie wins. Yet again, incredibly hot start for the LPGA tour and they have the Chevron Championship,
Starting point is 01:01:26 not quite a major, but close to a major coming up right after the Masters. Well, they've got a new one this week. They got a first, they got the Ford Championship in Arizona this week, and then they go to Shadow Creek for the, it'll be a really good week for women's golf in a couple of weeks when they have ANWA and the LPGA match play out at Shadow Creek.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It's gonna be awesome. Which I know we're getting a little ahead of ourselves, but again, we talked about it on our last Thursday show, but the match play this year is, what was it TC, like 96 players, and they're playing 36 holes and cutting down to eight for the match play. So they're trying a little bit of a new format
Starting point is 01:02:04 at match play, which I dig. Excited to watch them play stroke play around Shadow Creek too, because that's a play set. Some really entertaining golf holes and possibly some high numbers out there in stroke play. TC's guy, Jesper Svensson wins in a playoff at the Porsche Singapore Open, I believe it is. Do you guys see that they have a-
Starting point is 01:02:24 This is Singapore Classic. Singapore Classic, excuse me, I believe it is. Do you guys see that they have a Singapore Classic Singapore Classic? Excuse me, I'm sorry. Do you see they have a replica 17 sawgrass hole plays like 190 yards on that course. It's sick. There are a few things I wanted to shout out. First of all, I think this is a BD. Of course. Of course. Being a classic, not an open. Yeah, and it's a nation state. It's not necessarily, you know, a nation. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:49 It's true. But yeah, I mean, it is like it's it's it's the 17th hole at Augusta or at at TPC Sawgrass with rocks all around it instead of the bulkheads, which is sick. I didn't see it, but now I want to see it. It was a pretty good, pretty good final round. I mean, Spencer shot 63 and like, you know, kind of snatched it from Keira Deck. So the DP world tour did a couple good social clips this week. They had Keira Dek get in the booth afterwards and kind of talk about losing today. And, and, you know, that was, that was pretty on the nose and very, uh, on the pulse there. They were,
Starting point is 01:03:34 yeah, it was, it was, it was, uh, it was very open, honest, raw from Kiradek, which was cool. And then, uh, the other thing was they had a golfers as emojis similar to the windham, the blow pig thing from last week. And they posted that. That was like the highlight of the day for me today. It was, I mean, some of those were really, really, really good.
Starting point is 01:03:56 The Ernie L's one, ear, knee, and then two L's. So yeah, if you didn't see the video yet, they flashed some emojis up and you had to like sound them out to try to guess who the player was. And it's really not obvious. It was really not obvious, but it was very fun to go along with. Some of them got them so much quicker than I thought they would. So, I mean, you know, there's there was some really, really like avant garde emoji selections in there.
Starting point is 01:04:24 So good to see Andy Sullivan playing well too. He was, he was solo fourth this week. Paul Casey solo six, your guys, Olly. Form a rider cupper, uh, Andy Sullivan, but you didn't remember that. Uh, now to the highlight. This is the one thing TC said he was most excited to talk about. I'm going to let you take us there. TC take us to back out to LA.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yeah. Big ride up. This was, what? This was like beginning of the week. I think LA times had a, had a bit of a big article, a golf week picked it up. Basically the, the public courses owned and operated by the city of Los Angeles. There's nine of them, of which there's a couple part three courses and such. All the tee times are basically being bought up by these, I think they're Koreans, these Korean brokers. And they charge people, like the city raises probably half a million to 600,000 a year off of these, you know, resident golf passes, but they're not actually checking that people are residents either. And then,
Starting point is 01:05:30 you know, you buy one of these memberships and then you get access to, uh, you know, tee times. I think they give the olds first access to tee times too. Like they get it, you know, more than a week out and then everybody else can sign up. But by the time everybody else wants to sign up for tee time, they're all gone. You can't get one. And you have to basically go on to one of these messenger apps like Kakao, which is huge in Korea, and barter or pay off one of these guys who's hoovering up all these tee times and essentially pay them off and pay like $30 or $40 booking fee for one of these tee times.
Starting point is 01:06:11 So it's just this whole cabal. There's this guy, there's this teaching pro slash social media influencer, Dave Fink, who started this hashtag free the tea movement among his Instagram followers and everything. He's been going to city council meetings and different things. I'm fired up about this. I think people out in LA should be fucking pissed. They have some good, really, really cool public courses out there. And literally like citizens just straight up can't play them because you know, and the pro shops are totally like, and it sounds like somebody within the city government is being paid off to, you know, to keep this going. Nobody knows
Starting point is 01:06:57 anything about it. They don't know how to solve it. You walk into one of the pro shops and they're like, Hey, this is above our pay grade. This is like, you know, and so really the only, like the only way to get on is either pay the extortion fee to one of these guys or go wait for a cancellation at the golf club that day. So you know, we're talking Griffith park, Rancho park, things of that nature. And these are like $35, $40 tee times. They're not like, like they're charging as much for the, for the booking fee as they are for the actual teatime.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Which I think it's probably time just in general to have a national conversation about teatimes and, cause I think golf, golf now is like a criminal organ, criminal cabal as well. Like they are like, you know, like the courses have to give them a certain amount of tee times a day that they can use for their golf now hot deals or whatever. That's how golf now makes money. They're extortionist, in my opinion. So I think we need to bring tee times back to pro shops. You should be able to call up. If you want to book online, it should be on their website, not on some golf now website. And it should be course by course. All right. Just going to cross off golf now as potential sponsors of the No Lying Up podcast.
Starting point is 01:08:23 How did it take this long to figure out that this was happening? Like, that's the part that I don't really understand. Like, we've heard from a couple of friends in LA that were like, suspicious of this for years. Like, if you had to pay someone off, that's the part I can't really fully understand is like, if this kind of barter deal was happening, why did it take this long to get exposed? Well, I think part of it is because, you know, in LA has got a good newspaper, the
Starting point is 01:08:48 LA Times, but I think it's one of those things where there's just not enough oversight. There's not enough good local journalism. So I guess these golfers now are filing a class action lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles for the LA Times. So, yeah, it sounds like there's, you know, and it's Koreans turning on Koreans too. Some of the people filing the lawsuit are also Korean as well. So yeah, I'm really excited about this. I think this story has legs. I think it's going to get really nasty out there. Watch this space. I want to give a hearty congratulations to our guy Neil and his wife Carson, the birth
Starting point is 01:09:28 of their son Peter. I believe it was eight days ago now. When was it? Yeah, about eight days ago. The sixteenth. They brought the baby doing after Peter Mulnaughty. I know. That's prescient naming there. The baby and and mama are doing well from what we hear and want to send them a congratulations. Obviously, Neil's going to be out for, for some time, uh, on paternity leave, um, as the head of HR as well, he can probably make his own policy on for how long he's going to be out.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Congrats to them and grass TC. You're an uncle now. I am. I am. Uh, Neil, Neil texted their night. He said, when I put the baby down in the bassinet, he's, he's sleeping and then I put him down and he wakes up and he starts crying. I was like, that's what babies do. Me. Was he asking what to do to you? Man, like the, you know, the, the, the graveyard shifts tough
Starting point is 01:10:18 and you know, I'm getting these three hours of sleep when Carson clocks back in at 6am or whatever and all that. And I'm like, yeah, man, like, it gets a lot worse before it gets better. Oh, yeah, dude, you got like six weeks, at least of that, man. That's, that's, that's what we had. Oh, yeah. But again, congratulations to them. Very excited. And yeah, we'll obviously just just informing the listeners there. If you don't hear from Neil for a while, that's probably why I said at the beginning as well, we have a new no laying up YouTube podcast, YouTube channel. We of course have the NoLayingUp channel. We as well, we made a separate channel just for the podcast for a variety of reasons.
Starting point is 01:10:52 We're going to have some content out that kind of explains a lot of that. But for those of you that want to watch the video versions of these non-live podcasts and our interviews, they will live on that channel. So go ahead and subscribe there. We've got for our nest members out there. We've got a NLU outtakes from was that season for four of Taurus sauce from Ireland. We've got that that's that's a hardy, hardy helping of outtakes there. Neil Neil did some voice of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out.
Starting point is 01:11:32 We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. We've got a couple of great videos coming out. But we got the video cannons getting loaded up. It's gonna come hard and fast here eventually.
Starting point is 01:11:49 We're deep in the editing bay, but once it does start flowing, that faucet's gonna run through through the end of the summer at least. So you're gonna save a lot of video content coming, but we're getting through it. I promise we're working on it. You guys have some travel coming up here. Anything
Starting point is 01:12:05 you want to tease or or talk about on the front end? We do have some travel. Yeah, we're going to Scotland this week, going to the Royal Troon, Randy, and then we're gonna and then we're gonna gallivant over to the East Coast and play play a few rounds over there. And then we're gonna play the old course in reverse. And the old course in the regular counterclockwise routing as well. So stoked for that weather could be bleak. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:12:35 That's in the model. So that's definitely modeled for that. Now we're gonna be and of course, we're gonna be capturing that sounds awesome capturing all that. There'll be a ton of videos that will be coming out later this summer around those. So it gives a bit of time on those. But you know what, we got to stop traveling to see when it's the best time of year in Jack's, but I'm really looking forward to getting over there. I miss it a lot. And I'm excited to play some links golf. It's been a
Starting point is 01:12:57 little while. So I got beat in my in my match play bracket at the club the other day. I'm sorry, I've been running through some of the olds. Guys stopped me in my tracks in some tough weather. So I was given eight shots, but he beat me. He stepped up. I was keeping him in play all day. All that, so no asterisks or anything like that. Speaking of asterisks, Randy, I
Starting point is 01:13:25 want to give a shout out to asterisk Kelly. Sorry, asterisk Talley, who won the Sage Valley junior invitational on the girls side and Giovanni Binaghi won on the boys side. But I've never seen anybody literally named asterisk. It's gonna be- We also had our fantasy baseball draft this past week, our little 10 team league, Max Homa's in the league with us. It's gonna be, you'll probably hear a shit talking about some of that throughout the course of the year.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Should we make that league publicly available? Leave it in the comments. If you want us to make the league- I didn't know you could do that. Yeah, you can make it publicly viewable so people can come in and harass you about decisions you make. But if we get enough subscribers on the new podcast channel, how about that? If we get to 5,000 by the end of this week, we'll make the league publicly viewable. How about that? You might be disincentivizing people
Starting point is 01:14:17 from a very good point. I'll be honest. Like your fantasy baseball league. No, thank that. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be element to this league. There's gonna be all kinds of fun stuff. Well, we'll keep we'll keep we'll keep posted on that. Hopefully you're excited people posted on my il strategy because it's provocative. Yeah, I'm curious to see how that's gonna play out.
Starting point is 01:14:54 So we got we got the Houston open this week. It's gonna slap Houston open few is gonna be out of country. Raining KVV I think are holding down the fort for next week. We are looking forward to that. I'm greatly looking forward to that. Scott Scheffler, Blow Pig, Sahith, Jason Day, Finaal, Zala Taurus are the six guys in the top 30 in the crooked OWGR who are in the field. Is Scheffler going to be like three to one to win that? Probably.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I mean, they've got to already have odds up, right? I haven't seen any as of now, but I would be surprised if he was more than five to one to win. I don't think he can be more than five to one to win. No, he won't be even be four to one, I don't think. Cause he was 550 plus 550, I think to win the players. Be surprised if they had odds up on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Usually they wait till Monday. But if you're listening, you probably can find that somewhere. We're going to move to rap here. Thank you everyone for tuning in. We'll see you back here next week. We'll have a pot. We have a pot on Tuesday coming out. It's called improving the product. Me, TC, DJ and KVV sat down and just kind of drill down into what the heck that actually means what you know, not only just the criticisms we have the current structure, but actual tangible things you can do to improve the product what the product is whole bunch of that conversation that is pre recorded, that's going to be out on Tuesday, we're going to have a another
Starting point is 01:16:18 deep dive episode the following Tuesday, as we get prepared to roll into Masters week to coming the next week, which is kind of crazy that's coming up that fast. So that is going to be it for this week of the No Lang Up podcast. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll see you back here next week. Cheers. Crack on. Be the right club today. Better than most. How about in? That is better than most.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Better than most! Expect anything different?

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