No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 815: Valero + ANWA Recap

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

We have a jam packed pod this weekend as Akshay Bhatia wins the Valero, Nelly Korda wins the LPGA Match Play, and Lottie Woad claims the 5th Augusta National Women's Amateur. We start in San Antonio where Bhatia won in a playoff over Denny McCarthy after McCarthy's back nine 28 (!!) to force extra holes. We talk Akshay's career outlook in light of his second win on tour and try to make sense of McCarthy's incredible run of birdies before his chunked wedge in the playoff. We also talk Rory, Spieth, and a few other notes ahead of the Masters. Then it's on to Las Vegas (30:00) where Nelly Korda wins for the fourth consecutive start as she defeats Leona Maguire to win the LPGA Match Play while Lottie Woad birdies 17 and 18 to win the ANWA (44:00). We close with some observations from our day at Augusta today (1:10:00), JT's split from Bones, LIV-Miami, upcoming content this week and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about the end? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Solly here. We are coming to you live from Augusta, at least myself and our first co-host tonight, Mr. Kevin Van Valkenberg. Hello, KVV. How are you?

Solly, I'm great. I love being at the Masters. I get that little tingly feeling walk out on the course. Ben Crenshaw introduced himself to me today. Really? Yeah. I was hanging around. He was like, Hey, you, man. How are you? So I was gonna be like, we just did a deep dive on you, Ben. It was great. I'm gonna I might wax a little bit this week. I'm getting a little tingly feelings. We got a lot of golf has happened this past week. Also, I know it was not the Sunday he was looking

for out of his cliques. But he's here to, you know, he's going to perform. He's going to come. He's going to bring a smile tonight. That's Mr. TC. Hello, Mr. TC. Hello guys. Glad to be with you reporting live from, from, from Jacksonville beach, Florida. Not a good day for the cliques, but just a big week of golf. I mean, one of the, like one of my favorite weeks of golf of the year, like a super week. So it has really turned into it and it just becomes, uh, you know, it's kind of like, dude, we'll say the least live stuff. So do we need to live Miami event today? Like on top of LPGA match play on Valero rolling into masters week.

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Nellie Corde is in the process of winning her fourth straight LPGA Tour event. Then we're gonna bring in our own Jordan Perez, who's here in the green room. She was covering the ANWA here at Augusta this past week. And then of course we got to save a lot of time for the cliques in the backend because you got some, he's got some questions. He's got a answer. Thank you. TC for continuing to hold the cliques accountable. You're the only person who covers

live fairly. Thank you. Thank you. And I think the Anwa pronunciation might be the new gin, gin, which I was overwhelmed by the fact that people were saying gin over gin, like G H I N is gin to me. It's always been gin and the majority of people. Okay. The majority of people were voting the other way and that just seemed, seemed wrong. But I don't know. Maybe we don't leave with that. Maybe we lead with the playoffs that we just saw at Fullerro, which was low key the weirdest Sunday. Maybe we've seen if you happen to miss it. Lee Harvey

I sorry. Denny McCarthy shot it back 928 to fire a final round 63 to hunt down Akshay Bhatia who had a four shot lead going into the final round shot 67 and still found himself needing to make a 12 footer to get into a playoff. They go into a playoff, Denny McCarthy steps up and dead chunks of wedge into the water after shooting that back nine 28 and a story emerges where Akshay apparently dislocated his shoulder or his shoulder popped out of the socket.

It is truly master's week when something pops out of its socket and gets put back into place. He had to call on a physio to come tape him up before hitting a wedge shot onto the green and making the birdie putt to win in the playoff. It was freaking old school Twitter came alive for about 12 minutes there this afternoon. It was fantastic. It was like shades of bow.

Hostler at Eugene country club for the NCAA championships a few years back. Yeah. I felt alive. And this is after Brendan Todd completely ices everyone on the 72nd hole and just protect. He's playing for a lot still out there. It was tough though. BT, you know, I love you, but that was, that was tough for the TV time there. Yeah. Just a lot going on. It was tough though. BT, you know, I love you, but that was, that was tough for the TV time there. Yeah. Just a lot going on. It was, it was awesome. And so you're using some colorful language there as well with the shots fired, dead, Texas, all sorts of things that I just, you need to be careful there when we're talking about Denny. Who was the first person that identified that he looks like Lee Harvey Oswald? I mean, hopefully you're picking up on the joke as of now, but it's not going to go away anytime soon, but, uh, I don't

think he likes it necessarily, but it's really tough to avoid at this point. Yeah. Who wouldn't want to be told that they look like an assassin of, you know, he also looks like Brock Purdy, right? It's yeah, it's a, it's a, if Lee Harvey Oswald and Brock Purdy had a baby, that would be, that would be Denny McCarthy. But I feel like everyone was rooting for auction. I mean, I think it's, it's, it's a, it's a. It's a, it's a, if Lee Harvey Oswald and Brock Purdy

had a baby, that would be, that would be Denny McCarthy. But I feel like everyone was rooting for Occha. And then as soon as this shoulder thing happened, as soon as he got to take a timeout in the playoff, I feel like things changed very quickly on that. But where do you guys stand? I'll need you to call it a trader in the, uh, in a playoff. It reminded me of tennis, right? Where they take like, you know, whether they're trying to change the momentum of things. They take a bathroom break. They're just stalling.

I was, I joked that he was going into the four corners offense after Denny dunked it in the water. I don't know. What are the rules? So I, do you know if you can do anything like that? That's we could even just taken a extended break for five minutes, 10 minutes to get this shoulder like that. I don't know.

It, this came up a couple of weeks ago with the players when Scottie was getting work done when he was teeing off on the 14th hole. I don't remember what the actual rule is. I know that this has something to do with the pace of play. Like you can't fall a certain amount of time behind or you know, you can't do it on every hole. I don't know what exactly it is, but there is, there's a reason why he went straight to the rules official to say like, what can I do here? What am I allowed to do? And you are allowed a certain allotment of times for treatment of some kinds. So it gets taped up. And it was just so funny to see his physio like up on the hill, the camera found them. And it was just like a closer company to finish up the game.

The physio was on the grassy knoll. This is true. Tony, Tony Finau should have been allowed to finish out the par three contest years ago. You know, he still could have been the reigning champion of that. I feel like that's in dispute. Put an asterisk on it. You know, it's kind of those things. It's kind of chess from a OXF, where there's no group to fall behind. Yeah. Right. You know, they're, they're the only group on the course really. I haven't seen anything that courageous since Tom Kim's performance at, at a poi lake. I mean, that was, that was up there with him. You know, Paul Pierce, I think he tweeted that earlier.

Sally, Kurt Schilling, things of that nature. JJ watt. I have to listen to it. I know every injury that ever happens to you see is assuming somebody is faking it or being dramatic about it. Have to assume he didn't want to go get treatment before hitting the, you know, the game winning shot in the playoffs. So I'm guessing there's something to do that. He said it, he's had issue with that shoulder and if they showed the replay does a couple left left arm fist pumps, it wasn't anything dramatic.

It wasn't like he over celebrated and threw it, you know, maybe technically did but it sounds like he had something already going on there. Which like I actually had that in my right shoulder where sometimes if I like fall a weird way or like it collapsed a weird way. I'm like, Oh, you can hurt it really quickly. But I'm 37 and basically a 57 year old and a 37 year old's body and he's 22. So he's way too young for that stuff to be happening. But if he was 35 or older, I'd be like, Oh, I totally understand what just happened.

Sally, I told Gustav, my son, the same thing this week. I said, you know, you're faking it. He got called home from Augusta. He had a broken collarbone because he insisted on playing tackle football after his flag football game. And I was like, Guzarr, are you hurt? Are you injured? Cause I just drove home from Augusta on a county. You said that I'm ready. Regretfully, TC will not be fulfilling the waffle house, which was scheduled for Monday and Augusta. He had a whole plan. Yeah. I was like, I was stoked to get that, you know, going people were, were lining up, making reservations. I had a whole spreadsheet going of what slots people were going to fill. I was planning on eating 10 to 12 waffles, cutting it down

to 12 to 14 hours. So can't do it. I think we're burying the lead here, which is the fact that Akshay and Denny McCarthy finished nine clear of the three. Nine clear. Yeah. This was, this was going around. It reminded me of Stenson and Phil at True. Stenson was 14 shots clear of third in a major, maybe not the exact same thing as the Valero, but what I mean, just a dominant performance of actually sneaky kind of good field at Valero, you know, Rory in the field, speech, a bunch of dudes that, you know, maybe a little bit stronger than it's been in the past. It's, a fine golf course, I think it's a an interesting finish and some thought provoking shots to pull

off. But Akshay led the field and strokes gained approach. He was 24th and putting second around the greens sixth off the tee. I mean, it's just a I honestly didn't realize I'm a big Akshay guy. I've been a been a big Akshay supporter for a long time. And I've really appreciated his process and like his decision to turn pro early when a lot of people were doubting that I didn't know. I didn't, I didn't know he had this like ceiling. I didn't know he had like this run away from, I mean,

Denny McCarthy aside ran away from a decent PGA tour field by nine at age 22 was like, holy shit, man. I'm really glad he won. I mean, McCarthy, I'm kind of gutted for him shooting 28 on the back nine. That'll win you almost any, any PGA tour event except for this one. But I mean, he shot 67 coming in with a four shot lead in the final round. He played a great final round, got run down, but was able to survive in the playoff. And man, I has me kind of rethinking his ceiling a little bit.

I kind of thought he would be a, you know, top 40, top 50 player on tour. Like I'm wondering, I don't know if I have an answer for that right now. Is he like potentially top 20 player on tour? I mean, he's still only 22 years old. I think the thing that's always interesting to think about Sal is the best 15 year old golfer

in the world is not the best 20 year old golfer in the world. Is not the best 25 year old golfer in the world is not the best 20 year old golfer in the world is not the best 25 year old golfer in the world. Different guys make different leaps and sometimes bodies stop growing or sometimes somebody catches a little speed and they get to be a good player and maybe he's kind of figuring out. I don't know what it is. Maybe the stats would kind of tell better, but that he's learning to make the leap. Robert Leonard From that perspective, that line of thinking like he was the best 15 or 16 year old player in the world. I posed the question on Twitter X or whatever the hell it is earlier.

I said, who finishes with more PGA tour wins, Tom Kim or OXA? And you know, people could call this recency bias. I think Tom Kim's entire career is recency bias though. So it's kind of counteracted by that. 78%. I just don't think Tom's Kim's that good. How did you shoot one Tom Kim into this? Cause they're both like Tom Kim's 21, Okshay's 22. They both, I mean, Okshay just won his second career PGA tour event. Tom Kim's won three times now. Like they're pretty good comps for one another. They've both been playing at a high level from a young age. Obviously Ludwig's a decade older than they are. Thank you for acknowledging. Again, you can't sleep on this. Tom Kim finished runner up in a major championship last year. That goes on the record as well. I, that'd be a different, actually goes into a different category if

he goes out and finishes runner up at the masters this week. Something is wrong with him this year. Like, you know, his, his strokes gained are way down, right. And approach, I think too, like if you're not not going to hit good irons, like you are not going to succeed if you don't drive it that far. And that's Tom Kim's kind of game. So I don't know. It's pretty wild to see Okshaya is just profile too. Like he's gaining strokes pretty much everywhere. It's not like he's doing any one thing, you know, I mean, his iron play was extraordinarily this week. He was great off the tee, good around the green, you

know, putting gained strokes and all that, but it's, you know, pretty well rounded player. I think, I think the issue with him has always been like, can he fill out his frame? Can he stay healthy? Yeah. Cause I think the issue with him has always been like, can he fill out his frame? Can he stay healthy? Cause I think there were some concerns and that, you know, I'm not sure that's getting some concerns I think on that. No, I mean, I have told this story a bunch of times when it comes up, but we played the junior players pro-am or amm, whatever you want to call it. Like six or seven years ago, I think. And we asked the guy we play with, you were asking about some of the other

juniors and he said about Occha who was, it was a big buzz around Occha at that time was like, ask him about Occha, he's like, I think. And we asked the guy we play with, we're just asking about some of the other juniors. And he said about Akshay who was, it was a big buzz around Akshay at that time was like, asked him about him. He said, yeah, I've never seen him make, I've never seen him miss an eight footer that matters. Like he just, he pours in so many putts and his putting hasn't been amazing as a pro. You know, it hasn't really fully graduated that his ball striking has actually been low key good. But I mean, he made a lot of stuff this week and made the putt when he needed to on the eight on the 72nd home. So something obviously happened with the putting, right? Because he switched around like he was doing the arm lock and then it was, you know, doing whatever this

is now with the sort of longer putter where you're gripping it down. I mean, he's figured out a way to make it work. I don't, I always find it interesting when people, and this, we talked a lot about the Shelford stuff, when there's such good putters as juniors and they're like unconscious and then something happens and they're like kind of lost in the wilderness for a while. Like it's probably not that uncommon, but it just kind of fascinating that that happens

when you hear stories like that about a guy who just can't miss and just like has all the confidence in the world and then all of a sudden he's like, well, let me try like a fifth putter this year because I, or this weird stance because I can't figure it out. Do you see? I mean, you've been there. I think some of it probably goes back to they're used to putting for birdie or they're used to being out in front and just a different mentality. Right.

And then, yeah, I mean, obviously he's, he's gone to the big Randy school of thinking with the longer, longer, you know, gripping down on the longer putter there. Which I don't know when he, when he made this shift, but I mean, he was negative 0.58 putting last year, which is terrible. That's why he's doing the arm lock and this year he's done the longer broom, the broomstick and he's plus 0.36, which is like, that's good enough to without looking, I'm guessing that's top

30%, uh, 70th percentile. I think I always screw that up. Yeah, something else too. I mean, he basically went wire to wire. Yeah, that's he wrote on his hand before. That's big stuff. That's that's serious. Now, granted, I don't know if it's considered wire to wire.

Like, carrot Morrison was tweeting this. I don't know if it's considered wire to wire. If you go to a playoff is technically you're not, you know, solo leader after 72 old, you know It'd be tough to never trail after 72 holes and or after any any round and not consider it wired or I don't know the Answer to that technique. I still can't get over Danny McCarthy. I was in state of his last nine holes all seven of his final holes and shooting 28 like that on a really hard golf course. Like this golf course is, I don't know

if I like it or I want to play it. It's really ugly looking. It's a third light Greg creation. But man, like I kind of dig it for professional events and it always has a place. I think. Yeah. Yeah. And it always kind of creates a pretty cool, diverse leaderboard, just different skill sets represented. I mean, you know, you see it here, Ocshay, Denny McCarthy, Rory, Russell Henley, Adam Schenck. Like those are all, you know, different golfers, all pretty good iron players though. Denny, like to do that and then to lay sod over it after that, after seven straight birdies is just, I have hit that wedge so many times. I think as soon as I saw that, I've been there, man. I, I'm just really glad that didn't happen after actually went to go get treatment. That would have

been the only conversation was like, if, if he got got iced and that and he got chunked in, that would have been, that would have been the take that had been take central leading up into masters week. But yeah, he birdied the 10th, all the 12th, the 13th, the 14th, the 15th, the 16th, the 17th and the 18th to shoot that back. Cause we're watching the media center without sound. I mean, we walked around August a little bit this afternoon, kind of only faintly paying attention. Cause it looked like, I mean, when I left the media center again, you can't take your phone. Actually had a six shot lead. Like it looked like it was starting the back nine. Yeah.

And it was just like, kept chipping away and actually it wasn't giving anything away. But I just keep looking up like, Oh, that's a birdie putt from, from McCarthy. That's another birdie putt. And then you check the leaderboard is like, they got birdied six in a row. And then he birdied the last two on top of that. I was kind of snuck up on us a little bit. Uh, that, that we're just kind of casually watching it. Uh, but that was, that was a memorable one. Yeah. Pretty good rest of the leaderboard too. I was going to say, you know, Fleetwood, uh, we can talk speech week, Adam Scott, Ludwig, Keith Mitchell, like they're, they're all up there. There's some, some dogs Rico, how he played well. So we got a you

got Noren played well. We'll talk a little Augusta stuff specifically. We got this question from a mole Yannick. He said, which top 10 gives the most hope for next week Rory Hideki Ludvig or Spieth? I think Rory. I mean, we want to have the Rory conversation now. Like we don't have to talk to Augusta specifically. But I think for whatever reason, whatever Butch and him talked about, you'd see him a bunch today working on the sort of

takeaway, making sure like, I guess the club is kind of outside his hands longer, whatever. I think he really needed some sort of shot of confidence. Like I think it was probably good that he wasn't actually in contention, but he played well. I think I saw his show to tweet from Justin Ray, like this was his best approach week in five years in terms of proximity. That's pretty amazing. Y'all are falling for it. You're falling in the trap. You're falling in the trap. I don't want to talk. I don't want to talk about that, but let's just say some good

vibes into what's coming into a guts thing. Whatever's next. Sorry. Uh, or will be helpful too, because he had a, you know, his first top 10 of the year, you know, obviously not including the DP world sort of stuff, but I think he needed some sort of like, you know what, I'm going to press reset and just kind of figure something out. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you know, we'll see what the putting does. Yeah. Like that tweet,

he had Justin Ray had, you know, he was four and a half or four feet, four inches better from 50 to 125 in his approach than his season average. He's five foot one inch better from 125 to 150, three foot nine inches better from 150 to 175 and seven feet eight inches better 175 to 200. So that portends well what is Rory doing over the next few days because he's not getting into Augusta till Tuesday right? Just because you're willing to hang. Because you but I didn't realize he was not getting into Tuesday.

Do you see you may have a more direct line to Rory than I don't I have not heard. Maybe maybe I just in like the stupor of the last few days, I just fell for some some bullshit. Parity account. Yeah. The blue check. Everybody's got a blue checkmark now. TC. It's hard to discern. The Elan's just giving them out right and left. So yeah. Well, you know, I thought he wasn't working with Butch, but you know, according to Rory, he is working with Butch. Yes. Yes. It's all

the news will come from my team and my team. Do you want to apologize for what speed did on Saturday? You know, we were, you know, kind of amongst a bunch of other things, not really catching it live, but what unfolded there was disgusting TC and I need you to speak on it. It was, it was. I think it's one of those things though, where we need to change people didn't see. Could you tell us what, can you remind people what happened? Yeah.

Spieth was, I mean, just a bat shit crazy week from Spieth to begin with. What was that? Round one that he had hit an ace, hit a double. He had, let's see, one, two, three, four, hit four birdies, a double, five bogeys, and an ace. And, you know, just crazy shit all week from Spieth. He finishes T10, but on Saturday, people were, I mean, people were just incensed. On 18, he hits his drive left, you know,

kind of left rough, and then has to, I wasn't watching live. So he tried to hit a big cut around some trees, hit a branch, kicked further left into a terrible spot like by in, he was in a essentially the penalty area, but there was like a concrete sort of thing that he would have gotten relief from if it was not in the penalty area. But there was like a concrete sort of thing that he would have gotten relief from if it was not in the penalty area. And the only swing that he had was essentially to hit it further left up onto the roof of the clubhouse. So behind 18 green, not the grandstand. Yeah, not the grandstand at all. But the

literal clubhouse left. Before that, he insisted on hitting, like he hit a draw, he hit this big sweeping draw in there when the shot calls for a fade off the tee. Then he, I think he could have gone out left-handed. He could have gone backwards for sure, yes. I did really bad this morning. But yeah, so he alerted the rules official.

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out of bounds? Like it's literally the clubhouse. That's not part of the golf course. It's like when you find a glitch in a video game, I think that like they just understood that there was no out of bounds anywhere over there that no one had ever been over there. So they just realized like, Oh, let's just launch it up here. And then suddenly we'll get the drop back on online with it without knowing anything. That's Grellar. Grellar has scouted that out. He knows that the clubhouse is not OB. I don't know where else it's going to fit I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm know, dusty patina, just weird.

Yeah, I don't, listen, it was gross. I will say this. But also like, I respect the commitment to the bit. When you guys went on tour with us and we had the TIO situation at the Sony, I got so many people attacking me and saying, you guys would not be critical of this if it was Spieth, you guys would be celebrating it or whatever.

So I just wanna go on record and say, this was bullshit. God, you're gonna get so many emails tomorrow, people apologizing like, oh, I was so wrong. KVV. I was my goal was to be so right about this under your skin. I, I, I own this. You were real quick, real, real quick. You're such a standup guy. Before we get to apology or while we're on apologies here, KVD, do you want to acknowledge something from the lead up pod, the masters, you know, for you, I had sort of a brain like just melt down and I referred to both Rory and IBF as Englishmen, which is just wrong in every level. Like I apologize to the Australians.

I apologize to the Northern Irish, you know, the Irish, the English, English. I apologize to Americans for me representing them. Yeah. The Royal family. Look, you can't get everything right on those pots. As we know, sometimes you make an error and then you're like, ah, whatever. Nobody's listening. You know, you get 25 emails out of that guy. I realized it also air a head up. I could have caught that. And I did not. I don't know why I busted tuned you out or something in my brain. I was thinking like IBF has like collapsed before, like he would sort of know he wants to relate to so whatever. But I, I don't know why for a second, my brain was thinking that like IBF was in was English

or British or anything. Obviously, he's listening. That's on me. I should have I should have helped you out with that. Also, mea culpa. I said Tiger had not led a major and we were doing 2011. I said he had not led a major since the scandal which was I said he had right he way yang he had the lead. Why? But I think I was referring to the scandal but I said the

since the open so me may I call Paul? Also, always loose and fast with the facts. But sometimes we are. And, you know, hopefully you forgive us eventually. I was a great episode. I enjoyed it. But that was like a record scratch moment for me. I was in the car. What was like, what the fuck do you just say?

I yeah. Well, the Irish, I apologize to the most of all, since being as you know, mostly an Irishman And apologize to the Dutch for claiming the Irish when I could claim I also said Tiger had never led on a Sunday of a man of a Masters and not one but 2007 he actually shared the lead at one point in that one that he let ZJ win So that one that one hurt to relive so look at that. You guys didn't even think we were getting a surf pro segment in the night. Speaking of segments, our friends at Holderness and born are, they have a fresh spring refresh. They got tasteful, not tacky classic styles that pair well with anything. KVV and I both

have some classic H and B on right now. There's just something clean, but a white polo under a Q-zip or sweater. TC, why don't you take us to some of the some of the new stuff they got going on there? Yeah, first of all, all I wear when we go on the road is the white polo with a some sort of sweater like a crew neck or a hoodie over the top of it. Huge, huge H&B guy since the beginning. Right now I'm wearing the Macaulay print polo and then just one of their kind of classic gray sweatshirts. They've got a cashmere piece in there. And you know what, Sally, do not, do not, I repeat, do not sleep on the Parker pants and the Garvey pant. I've been wearing their shorts a lot down here in Florida. It's been really nice weather.

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That's true. Ludwig's driver head flew off. Faceclay, could have been a Peter Costas special there. Peter Costas did comment on it, but he did not. He said the screw was loose, which I think was actually a fair interpretation of what happened because I think they just screwed his head back on. They didn't get a new driver. Yeah, I just put a screw.

You're telling me it was not a face collapse situation. Okay. Didn't hit it too fast. He, uh, he still drove the green as well. This is Ludwig and then, and then Jimmy Walker, uh, his Potter head, uh, he still drove the green as well. Uh, this is Ludwig. And then, and then Jimmy Walker, uh, his Potter head, uh, snapped off, uh, big tech, Jimmy Walker. That was a little more forceful. That one we can explain exactly how it came off. He ripped his putter head off as he was going to go putt out while it was on the happy hour with Smiley and Rory

on that job for Rory and Silie for handling that really well. Like, Oh, we've all been there. Like, you know, uh, I guess that was, that was well, well handled by the team. And you know what? Good on, good on me. See for letting Smiley do that and run with it. Good on different players for hopping on with Smiley. Good on Smiley for, for running with that idea. It's, it's been additive to the broadcast and, uh, listen, praise progress, you know,

actually it was on to by while holding the lead, he was on there Friday afternoon, uh, as well. Actually leading right into Rory. Honestly, it kind of turns like Friday afternoon into like, uh, something that was crap. I don't want to miss it. Otherwise. And now it's like, Hey, at least at least on social, you're going to

catch up with it and be like, Oh, that was fun. Right. I feel like I'm missing out on potentially missing out on something, just getting, you know, getting those guys to talk live golf right over it. So I'm, that's a, uh, definitely praise progress on that. PGA tour social had a really good thing that they did this week too. They were, they were asking different players who the best dressed on tour was and the way they, the way they edited it out was just really good. Like they,

they mashed up all these different other things in it. They're showing growth in a big way on the hashtag socials. So proud of them. Proven the product. How about that? Compliment. I mean, obviously it would compliment the Dick writers are going to compliment the product, but

uh, on the LPGA front, is it gone final yet? It has officially gone final Nelly Cordo wins her fourth consecutive event. She's stomped Leona McGuire four and three in the championship match at the match play at Shadow Creek. Guys, I don't really know where to go with this. I hate to call Nelly a post hype sleeper, but it kind of felt like I think that's a perfect term. Yeah. But I mean, she achieved a lot, right? You know, she won a fair amount. She won a major championship. And you know, it wasn't like she was not accomplishing things. But it was

just, I feel like it was kind of put on her to carry the mantle of women's golf. And I don't know if she wasn't ready for it, or she just didn't. It was a huge, huge ass to like win tournaments at a very high clip. And it did not happen until very recently. And it's not happen until very recently. And it's it's been a monumental change for wins in a row in a very, very, very competitive environment when like, like my main beef with four wins in her starts, not not, you know, like she didn't go over and win, win over in China or Korea or some of the other places

they played on the early season swing. But that's not to take anything away. If anything, she won four big full field events because those over in Asia are weaker fields as well. So, sorry. A little bit of insight into this, I think. I was trying to write a piece about Nellie last year. I think this is the year that we all hoped Nellie would have last year.

It felt like that was the moment, whatever. And so in the kind of discussions with her team, about what she sat down for a longer thing, we were talking back and forth about what the piece might be about. And someone on our team has said, you know, listen, she does not like the whole sentiment of like the face of women's golf. Like she's, she rejects that entirely. She's not comfortable with it. She's not going to want to talk about that. So you need to kind of look around for another set of angles. She is competitive as hell. She loves to practice. She loves to grind. And that made me kind of think like, huh, like, okay, like, obviously, that was a little bit

of a cliched thing about, you know, are you going to be that sort of the standard bear for women's golf, whatever, and we didn't get to do it because she got a back injury and then sort of things kind of, you know, snowballed a little bit, but this is kind of the run that I think we all thought. And I do think it's interesting of just, there was a lot of talk early in her career, like, Oh, like you're so, you know, you're so photogenic. You're so like personable. You're an American, you speak English, you're, you know, a tall blonde girl. Like this would be so great if you were the face of the women's game. And she was just like, man, I hate that. Like, I just want to hit chips over and over again.

I want to, I want to hit bomb drives. I want to work on my swing. And I think maybe that could be the sort of bigger success in the long run, right? Like if she's got a taste of being a killer and she wants to long-term just like kick ass, like maybe just took her a little bit of time to feel comfortable in that role. And now, man, if she picks off a major here, God bless two majors this year, Holy shit. Like then that stuff comes without having to, you know, ask for it. It's just like your game has done all the talking. And I think that's probably what she really wants the most. Cause she's not super comfortable like talking to the media or sharing. She's super private.

She just wants to hang with her family and play golf. And great. Like that you can be a superstar with those things. You know, that's how David Duvall was. And he was a stud and a star for a long time. She, yeah, it feels like she's earning it. Like earning that mantle on her terms instead of it being bestowed upon her.

I think the way that she's won these events as well, the one out at Palos Verdes especially, just the way that like she'd be Lydia Cohen a playoff at the drive on in, was that Bradenton or Sarasota? She wanted a playoff of Ryan O'Toole and just went and hunted it down kind of a no doubt at it at the Arizona event. And then like she won that match. She won that finals match today in like the first six holes. She was up. She was three up. She was 300 through six and just like there wasn't any chance she was she was losing that and she beat a really like that was a really good final eight. Great tournament like I love the

format. I think they could probably go to 16 or 32. But I hope that they don't ease off. Explain it for those that didn't get to the format. Yeah, so I think, gosh, how many was it? It was like, I think it was 90 players. They cut it down after 36 holes to the top, I don't know, 60 or something. And then they went from there to the top eight

and they had a playoff. There was, you know, four, I think there was four or five tied for eighth. They had a playoff to kind of cut that down. And basically everybody in the top eight was super strong. Like Brooke Henderson, Yuka Sasso. Brooke actually, I think Brooke missed the top eight. She lost in the playoff.

No, I'm saying tied for. She lost in the playoff. I'm saying tied for in the playoff. But yeah, it was, I mean, it was just, it was like, you know, like, say young Kim Angel, Angel Yen made it Rose Zhang, like it was an awesome, awesome, finally, Leona McGuire was playing great golf, and Nellie just snatched it from her. I mean, it wasn't even it was no doubted. But Shadow Creek was mean, it wasn't even, it was no doubted, but Shadow Creek was set up really, you know, it was set up tough.

It was super, super, super windy out there. Ladies were struggling. Like the cut was well, well, well above par. And I hope that they don't ease off of that. Cause I think it actually identified the best players. And I think there's, you know, like having, I think Palace Verde was a great event earlier this year. I think having some of these bigger golf courses,

setting the courses up a little bit more difficult, it feels like it's a combination of that. And also the stars actually playing like stars, you know, like the LPGA has had a massive, you call it a problem, but just a massive amount of parity over the last three, four or five years. And I don't think there's anything better for the women's game than to have the stars playing.

Well, it's kind of what the PGA tour needs right now, to be honest. Yeah, not to turn this into a big macro conversation about golf and NBC and golf channel and the marketing of it all, but like feels like if you could dial up what would make women's golf really successful, it would be this exact thing. I mean, four tournaments in a row by one of your most marketable

players, it helps that it's just a blonde American that is attractive, like that is that matters to people that tune in and interest in all these things. And it just I mean, Randy's been pointing this out a ton to just like the complete lack of shoulder programming around anything with the LPGA or golf, not even shoulder programming. Yeah. They couldn't even get on TV today until the corn fairy tour playoff was over. And by that point, Nellie was already a few up. It was bizarre.

I think if you look at what's going on with women's basketball right now, yeah, it's just exploding. Obviously, it's a tough leaf. It is a tough but but I think there are some lessons to be learned, right? Like it took a while decades of investment investment, right? ESPN did a incredible thing over and over when people were making fun of it. Why are you showing this stuff over and then literally that the game when Caitlin Clark came along, they were ready to for it, ready to embrace it. Exactly. You know, like I get instead of playing from behind and trying to catch up or try. I get why it's different. I get why you can't

replicate it. Like Nellie's not going to win 15 tournaments this year. And like the difference between her and this is a Caitlin Clark is always going to be a storyline whenever she's on your TV. But man, like there is an audience out there that could get interested in it. And yeah, it would take some dominance from Nellie. But it's that's what Caitlin Kirk has shown. Like if you get a player who makes you want to tune in and watch, people will come. The problem with the parallel I think though is like, also on the men's golf side, it's not like that's market is, you know,

that buzz isn't really there as well week to week in the you know, I mean, men's college side. It's not like that's market. You know, that buzz isn't really there as well. Week to week in the, you know, I mean, men's college basketball men's, you know, that has been a big, a big product for quite some time. And like, but that product keeps getting worse and worse. It does. But I mean, golf channel hasn't really figured out how to make, you know, even with the much larger investment into it, hasn't figured out a way to get a ton of eyeballs into men's golf. So that leap is tougher. That's not saying they shouldn't do it. It's just, it is a tougher leap to make the, you know, the, the most watched basketball game that ESPN has ever showed the semifinal match, which yeah, which

let's say that, okay, let's I'll throw out a number out here. I don't know if it's like, let's say like 1.5, 2 million people watch the women's US Open on a great thing. If for them to go from 2 million to 3 million isn't like it's not going from 2 million to 10 million. I don't think that's a realistic for what golf is. But I think that you can get to find a million more people who would tune into the US Open if Nellie Cordo was having an incredibly dominant season if she'd already won one major and was like, Oh, can Nellie win the Grand Slam this year? And if there's more parallels with the men's game for more back to back, like the Pinehurst,

like it just, the way it's done is kind of so. It's like the old course. They're playing the old course this year, right? Like people want to see the old course. It's just, it's context, whether it's context with golf course architecture, with historical parallels, all sorts of stuff like that. I think it's, I don't know, I feel like a little bit on the outside looking in because

I haven't watched any of the women's basketball, but that's just because I don't watch college basketball at all, men's or women's at this point. But yeah, it's, I don't know, it's just one of those things too where like, it just seems like, all right, like they're more content to watch all of golf just shrivel up and not take advantage of this, this opportunity and play defense instead of push their chips in and go down swinging, which sucks. So, uh, yeah, it just takes a different partner for, and I mean, we we've we've covered this territory, I believe, but NBC Golf Channel Comcast have no interest in actually, it's just a line item for them. The golf is in general. So there's, that's why

you're going to see Golf Central's comes from Stanford now. And it's, I bring that up to say like the massive amount of conversation around everything with women's basketball is what's helped launch it, right? I mean, Caitlin Clark's an incredibly exciting player to watch, but it's on everywhere. Like you flip on I flip on sports there in the morning now when I'm hanging out with my daughter and like it's on everywhere it is and it's like, it just like it builds that

interest, it builds that social media interest, it builds that like we were out walking Augusta national today and we were saying like, let's get back and watch the NCAA final like that that is a totally there just seems to be none of that energy around golf in general, not just on women's golf. But anyways, I'd love to see like put live from at some of the women's majors, right? Like, we make that investment and have

brandle there and have totally Bethann have people talking about people who understand and know the game. And I think that'd be great. Totally. Yeah. A couple other things on LPGA real quick. There was a distinct lack of blowers. They did not have enough electric blowers, backpack blowers. Talking to several of the players.

At Shadow Creek, they did not have enough of that. Yeah, they could, they could find, they said they were, they kept saying they were limited on personnel. We don't have enough bodies. We don't have enough bodies. It's like, you're the fucking MGM. Like, come on guys, get it together. So it was like work in this country. Yeah. It was kind of like all those fallen little pods falling on, falling on all the things.

And then I just wanted to give a shout out. It's not, it's not a Camilo necessarily. It's a whole new category adjacent. Yeah. Carlotta Saganda was leading heading into the final stroke play around the third round and she shot 85. I did not see that. Wow. Really, really wild. Also like we haven't even just talked about the elephant in the room with Nellie. She can putt now. Like she learned, she figured out how to putt. Like she, I can't remember who she saw, but she saw somebody this off season

worked on her putting. I guess when she showed up, she could barely make a two-footer. And now she looks like she's deadly confident with it. So I mean, it's all your thing. She could win 15 times in a row this year. She's already over 25% of the way there. Does she win Chevron? of the way there, you know, does she win Chevron? Uh, I think yes. Has had some success at that course last year was in it. Played with her C game was like pretty close to, um, she'd eagled the last hole to sort of, but is it a major?

I'm going to say yes. I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm in on the Chevron out on the, Evian. So I think she'll win two of the five. We'll say two of the four majors this year. Cause Evian doesn't count. I think she wins at Lancaster and then I think she wins KPMG women's PGA at Sahale as well. I've still got some scar tissue when it comes to Nellie in the big, the big, big spot. Right. And I, I, I've, I mean, it's unfair to expect her to win the Chevron like no, Scottie Scheffler is a four to one favorite for the Masters. And like that is 20. That's 25%

chance. Is it unfair though? Like she's won four, she's won her last four starts. It's still really freaking hard to mathematically to see. She would not be more. She's not going to be less than five to one to win. Will she? I mean, I don't know, there's still a lot of really fricking good players out there that have had a lot of major championship success in recent years that I would not count out. I think it's unfair to expect her a game to show up every week. Can she win the Chevron

with like not her best stuff with a round where she shoots 74, you know, in the middle of it and then figures out, okay, like I'm going to, I'm coming back. And can she, can she have like a great comeback on last day if she doesn't have it? Yeah, I think that's what we have not seen. I will say she's won her last, her first win this year was end of January. She won twice in March and then once in April. So she's spanning. Yeah. Three or four months here as well. Uh, I would say the only, maybe asterisk would be Willie of who kind of fallen off of its health or, you know, form or whatever.

She's just not playing well right now. So, yeah. All right. Well, let's talk a little Augusta national women's amateur before we do that. As we roll into masters week at AT&T connecting changes, everything today being connected is essential. Connectivity is truly the bridge to possibility and proving the

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It feels good to be home. I miss it TC, cause I'm watching you on StreamYard and it's stuttering, it's not the same connection. We got a fast connection here, but man, the AT&T fiber makes a world of difference. But we're bringing in our own Jordan Perez, who has spent the last week here at the Augusta national women's amateur TC was up here as well before he had to leave. If you did not get a chance to catch it, guys, I got it. I was streaming it on my phone, literally during a wedding ceremony. I almost

gotten in a lot of trouble for doing that, but Lottie Wode birdied the final two holes to track down Bailey Shoemaker, who shot a final round 66. Jordan, I think you were out following Bailey for the majority of her round. You thought you probably thought you had the winner followed all the way in? Uh, yeah, I did. Uh, yeah, I was following Bailey from, it was about 13 fairway to 17 green. And then I just kind of plotted inside because I was like, okay, I know Lottie's coming. Granted, I think the perfect human experience is not having a cell phone whatsoever. Oh, it's amazing. But when you are working at a national, it's tough.

It's kind of a disconnecting changes everything moment. Yes. It's tough. It's kind of a it's kind of a disconnecting changes everything. Yes, it is. It's very overwhelming. It makes you realize, one, how addicted you are to your phone. But two, like as soon as you accept it, it's like the greatest feeling in the world. Like, oh, I have 50,000 messages when I get back. I don't care. I'll get to them when I get to them. Well, like the moment like being in the moment, too, of like seeing something cool and not having the urge to like pull your phone out and take a picture of it or tweet something about it or whatever.

Like, no, I'm just filing that away. My memory bank. It's really, really nice. So anyway, Jordan, what was the deal out? Like, like how was the vibe out at champions retreat this year versus previous years? I know the like the conditions were kind of similar to Shadow Creek and they were really windy out there, right? Yes, especially in that second round. That second round got really chaotic. I was absolutely

living. The gusts at one point were 36 miles per hour late in the afternoon. It was sick. First day, there was some overnight rain going into Tuesday into Wednesday. So it was playing just a little bit soft, definitely achievable and scoreable for people a lot of a lot of red numbers early. I was very, very heat looking forward to that wind. On Thursday, Hannah Darling came out the first day and she shot a I believe it was a 66. I remember she set a tournament record for eight birdies, which was incredible. And it was interesting because I had watched Hannah a few years ago at the Curtis Cup of Marion and she just looks night and day.

And between her golf and the way that she kind of carries herself now was really cool. And I just kind of want to put that as a footnote just to say that you should be seeing Hannah darling on the Curtis Cup squad later this year. I think she's going to end up being one of the leaders of that team. And the US has kind of carried the torch for a while. And just based on this Lottie win, like Gibi and I looks really dangerous right now. It was I mean, Bailey Shoemaker's round today was, it was clinical, it was awesome. Or I'm sorry, it's Saturday.

I keep, it's bizarre to not, to have a tournament finishing on Saturday. But it was like exactly how you should play the course. She was putting from all the same spots, all the right spots. She was walking in putts too, like they were six to nine inches out and she just was immediately walking them in.

The way this tournament has gone in the past, like we've seen, how many times have we seen the final group? I mean, cup show and Fosse maybe a different exception, right? The exception, but the final group has just struggled. Latana Stone had a tough go. Rose Zhang has had some, you know, even the year she won, it was kind of touch and go there. You just, you watch the pressure build and it's not the same like during the masters when somebody's ahead on the leaderboard and on the course and they've gone through 13 and 15, it's a bit of an illusion because like the guys behind you are going to play

those holes and they're going to probably make birdie on them if they're playing well. And it just has felt when the course is that firm, that slippery, that there was some decent amount of win there and that many chances to screw up and she was getting a little bit slow played a little bit from Gianna Clemente, it was a little bit, a little frustrated to watch that part of it. And so it just felt like if Bailey got in the house at six under she was going to be totally fine. And then she got in at seven and that looked like

it was donezo. And I mean, lot of you just was kind of plotting around not really doing a whole heck of a lot. And then birdies 15, absolutely pipes that drive she drives it so far. I mean, she was the I you were the you were there and able to compare it but like getting to spots in the course that no one else on TV was getting to wedges into 17 makes the birdie hits an awesome drive on 18 has like 110 into 18 hits perfect shot above the above the pin rolls back down the slope and just puts it right

in the middle and one I mean, it's like, I think you have to go back Arnold Palmer and 60 birdie the last two holes to win by one and I don't know who else has done that at Augusta National birdie the last two to win by one short soul birdie the last four but he won by two. I feel like that's a big deal whenever somebody makes this point of that nobody has done that since Arnold Palmer in 1916. There's probably a reason why that was sick. Yeah, it was. And God, the pots that she made to do it to just emphatic. And it was, it was, it was really

clinical. It was cool. It was like, Whoa, okay. Like I thought we were for sure going to a playoff. Yeah. It almost felt that way in some senses because she had some pretty big birdie chances that she totally missed out on. And for me, I kind of when watching her champions, I was like, OK, your ball striking is just totally getting you everywhere here and there. And it's like that was kind of her life raft this week. And it was interesting to kind of hear comparing her and Hannah Darling, hearing them both talk.

They were both very good wind players for a reason. One's from Scotland, the other's from England. And obviously on Saturday, I guess, the national that wasn't necessarily an issue. But again, like you said, Solly, just getting to places on the course that no one else could. And it was just absolutely phenomenal. Yeah. I just think of Lottie and you can't take it away from her. She just had such a great performance this week. I love putting contextualizing Champions Retreat in how much that matters at this event because so much of what you do there, it's big time. I think about when

Anna Davis won and there was one round had, there was one round at champions retreat that she played exceptionally well. You know, I think back to Latona stone too, and could have had, could have had a little more back there too. And so I don't know. It's interesting. And I kind of segue into this to open it up to like thinking like, I know the conversation is a lot of, Hey, we should play all three rounds at Augusta national, but I love what champions asks of the players that play it because traditionally you have to be two different types of players to play well at champions retreat and you have to be another type of player to play well at Augusta National. I think we saw a little bit of that from Bailey Shoemaker, but from

Lottie Wode, she had the full package. Well, that was the funny thing when Bailey was getting interviewed afterward. The first thing she said was like champions retreats, the hardest golf course in the world for me and like getting to Augusta national and, and thinking it opens up and that you get out and run there. I just found that comment to be particularly interesting. But yeah, it's crazy too. Just the thought of sitting there waiting to play Augusta for a full 24

hours, you're waiting 24 hours to play the practice round and then you wait another 24 hours after that to tee it up. And it was cold out there that morning too. I mean, it was very like, you know, kind of, there was a little frost delay, delay letting the pageants in the gates. And then from there it was, you know, just kind of off to the races for Bailey. Yeah.

I don't know. I think that one of the cooler things too is like seeing where all these ladies go to college. I think like, you know, Lottie goes to Florida State, Bailey goes to USC, and Jordan, Bailey played a full season of Epson tour? Yes. So explain that to me. What was that thought process or what was that decision making like?

So I think she played Q School and at the end of 2022. And so she got some status there. And the thought was that she almost considered turning professional before she even went to school, was thinking of doing a one and done, just kind of wanting to forgo the college process in some way or another. And then she gave it a chance.

This is somewhat of a similar trajectory to her teammate, Amari Avery, gives it a chance and she just has says she's loved it and it's contributed massively to her game. I was talking to her head coach, Justin Silverstein, and he said when Bailey came in that she had one of the biggest draws that they had ever seen. And so they've kind of been working on integrating the fate a little bit more. And it was interesting to hear her talk on Saturday, saying like, I was fighting a fate all day. Like, I really was. And hey, I mean, it worked out for her that that is a drawer's course.

And I want to make this connection too, because I, about a month ago, I went out to watch USC at Meadow Club and obviously lots of similarities there, wide open fairways, crazy underlated greens and Bailey was just hitting the ball. Alistair Mackenzie. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. But Bailey was hitting the ball really well during her practice round. Granted, of course was totally soaked, but she was hitting it very well there. So there was definitely some momentum from that. And I think that carried over and she had a great opening round two there. I think she shot pretty low, but then kind of that. And I think that carried over and she had a great opening round to there.

I think she shot pretty low, but then kind of collapsed. And that was something she'd been struggling with coming into Anwah. She would put play well and some really good stretches and then just couldn't put three good rounds together. And I'd say she came as close to that as she possibly could this past week. She shot, I mean, she shot 66 in round three, nobody else shot better than 69. Only nine players even broke par on that day. I love I love tuning in and watching this because I love the different angles of Augusta National. I love the different

golf shots. It's just you know, I love watching the Masters but you kind of get used to seeing the same exact shot on eight the same exact shot on 15 all the hallway around and totally different views and total a couple times she's got a double take and like, I was watching that final group on Saturday and watching. Gianna hit it over into the right trees, but it kicked back out into the fairway. So she's coming off this downslope from

like 130 140, trying to get a ball to go in the funnel there on the seventh hole. And it's like a totally again, coming of the, the height and the spin that a female puts on it compared to a male professional is totally different. So all the aspects of it were different. And it's just a just a really, really cool introduction into the week and I slowly you, you took the words out of my mouth, like I think

the the bit of the master is a bunch and everything feels optimized for the men. Like it's you know, you've seen the same trajectory. You're seeing largely the same shapes and the same holes. You're seeing them, you know, kind of hit it to the same spots. And there's such a wide variety of shot shapes, trajectories, spin rates, you know, course management strategies for these ladies.

It's a really fascinating tournament to watch. And so I did that shot on seven. I stood there a couple of years or three years ago when I went to Anwah, I stood there and watched that shot. And again, and like it's, I would never stand there on seven and watch the men play that shot. And, and props to Augusta this year too. I felt like the whole locations were really, were more imaginative than they have been in years past. Like the whole location on four was standout. Three, you know, great one on 15. But seven was in that little bowl on the right there.

And watching the ladies, you know, control their spin, how far they wanted to take it up on the ridge. Saw a couple of ladies play ping pong between the two bunkers. A few spun it off the front of the green and went all the way back down seven fairway. But that was such a, you know, greens were really bouncy and it was such a perfect kind of encapsulation

of the challenges inherent there at Augusta. Something else I noticed too is, man, pace of play like Gianna Clemente. Thank you. Lynn Bladna Clemente. Thank you. Uh, Lynn Blad Ingrid from Sweden. Yeah. She, I mean just brutal like joyless golf. Like very I'm like, man, like hit the ball and they, they penalized Anna Davis after champions retreat second year in a row. She gets penalized for something, you know, but kind of takes it, takes it standing up there, misses the cup. I won because I won that penalty was very, very, very, but, um, but man, I'm kind of hoping I would like to see them take a stand

on slow play a little bit and kind of move to the forefront and be the vanguards of, Hey, let's enforce the rules here. Cause I think it is a part of the game. And there were, there were certain, certain spots where, I mean, I was watching Lynn Blatt on 15 and I mean, she must've taken three and a half minutes to hit the second shot on 15. It was crazy. And you know, it's like time, time should be a factor. And that's where I, I, you know, I tend to downplay pace of play on this show because it's usually when we're talking about it, it's like threesomes off both sides is that part of like, dude, there's

nowhere to go. Like that's the biggest part of slow play in pro golf is like the traffic problem. But when you get into some since weekend and you're everybody's going off one tee, like you go like everybody goes and it's not it's not always impactful on the TV product, but it is unfair to your playing competitor to force them to have to play faster to in order to keep pace. And that's the stuff that the rules need to get a little bit more drilled down.

And like, if you fall behind pace, both players are punished the same and that you get put on the clock and now you're timed for strokes. And that's unfair to the person that has not been playing fast. And it's unnecessary stress on that or not been playing slow and unnecessary stress And that's unfair to the person that has not been playing fast. And it's unnecessary stress on that or not been playing slow and unnecessary stress on that's what I was feeling of like, that's where I was not feeling the the momentum for Lottie was just like john was taken forever. I mean, it was egregious really. And I hate,

you know, I don't like when when you know, we had a chance to spotlight women's golf and we talked that much about the pace but when it gets that bad to that point, it's like, it's kind of difficult to ignore. I mean, everybody was talking about it. They bones mentioned, you know, it's very complimentary. Of course you call her deliberate. She's good enough player. If you're a good enough player, you're deliberate. If you're bad, you're slow. So he did give her that compliment, but it's tough, man. It really is tough. And I, I applaud a lot even more for, for making it past all that distraction.

Cause you've just standing up at her ball, just waiting. I got seventh hole was ridiculous. It took, it just took forever. Guys, can I weigh in a little bit on the Anna penalty? First of all, I thought that was so annoying. So annoying. Day one, Wednesday at champions, it was a group behind Anna and watching Sambach, Janna Wilson and Rocio Tejedo from Spain.

And two times that group got told that they were out of position. That group was playing really fast already, so fast. And I remember getting to a par three and just standing there for like five or six minutes waiting for Anna's group to clear. And I was like, are you kidding? And granted, I couldn't really tell who the problem was in that moment, but it was just grating. Now,

I want to say this Thursday pace of play was a massive problem across the board. And that's where I get annoyed with the enforcement of this because it's like, if you're going to call out Anna for bad times of what she did have called across the board. I saw Ingrid be a little bit slow out there, but a lot of players were. It was that windy. It was just it was difficult. But like you're going to focus in on the past champ, which I just doesn't feel right to me. And I I'm all I'm all for enforcing it. But let's let's be a little bit fair. You're saying that they should they should they should penalize a 14 year old,

uh, amateur instead of an, instead of an 18, 19, 20 year old. Actually, they totally should. They should learn young because this in college golf, it is egregious. They are so used to playing slow. George's probably too young for that TC. That was what that's 10 years ago. Now, uh, uh, John Long Guan was, uh, penalized a stroke, 14 year old to playing slow. George's probably too young for that TC. That was what that's 10 years ago now. John Long Guan was penalized as a 14 year old amateur

on the men's side. Yeah, I kept hearing that this week and I was like, yeah, that was my pre-golf phase. So. Yeah, I think the other thing, it seems like a few of the members tease are probably like, it's kind of funny we're talking about like, oh, you think there's a problem with distance in the game where like some of the members tees are too far up for some

of the longer hitters both within the membership, talking to some of them and within, you know, the women's amateur ranks where, you know, yeah, like Lottie had flip wedges into some long long par fours or some par fours that are, that are supposed to be long and supposed to have those similar shot values, right? Yeah. Yeah. So it for some reason, though, with her, it felt a little more earned than some of the some of the dozen men side in terms of like, the scale was just different for her. And didn't look like she was swinging hard either. But she

just ended up in spots that were like, man, it's pretty hard to screw it up from there. And, and we've not seen that on the women's side of like the longest players just, you know, both in professional and Amber, the longest players just like dominating. So that was one of the first times I've seen, you know, Nellie hits it really far, obviously, but I would not call her, you know, I wouldn't say she's dominated up until very recently, but that was just like, whoa, I don't know how you really beat that.

If you're going to hit it that far wedge it that good And putt that good. So it's just so it's so interesting to see some of these ladies with one shot shape jamming certain shots into certain holes like watching you know some of these ladies hit into 12 or You know hit one into you know, try to hit that draw into 13 or, you know, there's just, it's fascinating to hold some of these greens. And then I followed, uh, Haley Borgia quite a bit because I just, I like watching her plays. She's scrappy. She doesn't hit it far, like just hits it really, really solid with the irons. She, she kind of got a case of the left's going.

She rinsed a couple on 16. That was tough. And it was like, man, you've got this massive slope out to the right. But it was just really, really interesting. It was like, you know, because she was playing almost a perfect round of golf prior to that. She had a great shot into seven. I think she birdied a couple after that and then kind of had that train wreck coming in.

But yeah, I don't know. It kind of gives me hope for both the European Solheim Cup team that there's so many Swedes in the field. There's some Italians, there's some Spaniards. It's a really, you know, and most of them go to SEC schools. It's always crazy to see like the number of South Carolina, LSU, Arkansas, a little bit

of Arizona state, a little bit of Oklahoma state, but a lot of SEC and then Florida state on the ACC side too. So a lot of Florida as well. No Georgia. Not a single Georgia player in the field, I don't think, or at least they made the cut. So a couple other things I had solid, it was a lot more crowded than was there two or three years ago.

It felt like they sold a lot, like kind of offered a lot more tickets out to it. It was just, that was noticeable right off the bat. It seemed like a ton of people were heading straight to the merchandise tent. The lines for the merchandise were insane. And I heard that some people were just basically using tickets to go to the merchandise tent, get first crack and then like not even going to watch the golf. Yeah. Which is insane. So

that was, that was disappointing. I know concessions prices are up slightly. Some of the beer prices are up a full dollar. Some of the other things are up 50 cents or so. In this economy? Exactly, exactly. I mean, if anything, they're not even keeping up with the pace of inflation right now. That's true. Sorry.

So, the Wagga, the world amateur golf ranking continues to be a complete disgrace. Bailey Shoemaker was the second worst ranked player in the field, you said, Jordan? Yes, 155. You know, it's just, there's massive issues on the boys side as well. There's all sorts of, there's some manipulation

going on, Sally, and I think you should take a closer look at it. Jim Colton's highlighted it a little bit. A lot of guys from, you know, Japan, Latin America, getting in via just some weird, weird kind of, you know, some very specious qualifications. I don't want to call them coasters, but they might be coasting a little bit. That's interesting.

I'll look into that, T.C. If I hate to see you all worked up about, you know, some some some of them foreigners gobbling up points outside the Americas, you know. Oh, you know, especially as we know that, that, uh, you know, the Asia Pacific am the Latin America and like, they're doing good things with it. You just want to make sure that the right, the right people are getting in from those countries and from those, from those regions of the world, you know? Yeah.

Wagga. I will not swear by the wagga. I don't think I understand it, but I don't hear a lot of great things about it. But anything else from your notebook, Jordan from a annual week, we talk coverage since you sure. We've been watching it on TV. Of course, that window. That's a tough window. I don't like that. We started playing golf at 8 a.m.

That was on from 12 to three o'clock, I think was the window. I think that is it feels is much like old school masters of like, yeah, this is, this is what we're going to show you. And this is what you're going to get. It's a, they pop in a little bit on the pregame show, but you know, it's like, Hey guys, like, can we just show the leaders full round? Yeah. Just start with that. Cause it's, you know, but I will say when they are televising, it seemed like a good product based on everything

I heard. It was. It was good. Yeah, it was not overly commercialized. And then it flowed right into the Lero, which of course was heavily commercialized. But no, it obviously huge effort from getting bones out there is fantastic. And it, you know, to Rico and everything, it just feels like a big event. It feels like a massive event.

And that's one we won't put on NBC. That's not if they, they would broadcast six hours of it if they were allowed to. But Augusta says this is how much we're going to be on TV. That's why we're going to do it. So it also shows that NBC is capable of good coverage. Totally. You know, it's, it's, uh, you know, Brian, Brian Roberts wants to, wants to showcase

his, his club. Why can't you showcase the rest of the golf, my man? Come on, you guys are capable of it. Also, I wanted to give a shout out. Caught some of the drive chip and putt today. Some of the youngsters, especially in the sub 14, 15 year old youngsters, some great swings. Legitimately like Joaquin Nieman-esque stuff.

I was like, man, that's, that's like crazy athletic. You must have a huge impact on you being here, TC, because that you're coming around here on the drive chip and putt. That's a massive, massive development here. I still don't, you know, and Akshay obviously was, was a drive chip and putt alum. First one to play in that. Still a little bit out on the oldest division there, but we can let bygones be bygones. I do think that they need to at least do like a tougher wedge shot or a tougher chip for the old, for the, you know, the, the, at least like the 12 through 15.

Of course set up for the drive chip and putt from TC. This is, this is, this is peak. This is perfect. This is perfect. I love this. I'm just trying to, you know, never settle. Try and identify the best, all right? We're trying to identify the best. Perfection is unattainable. That's like the Augusta way, you know?

That's very good. So, all right, well Jordan, thank you very much for your hard work this past week. It's been a pleasure to follow and read along and we appreciate you hopping on here. Thank you for having me. Also one quick note, because I really need to clarify this for everyone. It is not Anwah officially.

It is not Anwah, but it is the Augusta National Women's Amateur. Not my words. Correct. But it's too many syllables. It's a lot. But also like they did an ad for Anwah Golf or and what golf and like, Trico had to read that out on the telecast. He said I forget which one he used. But I think there was there while I was waiting to see I was like,

Oh, how's it gonna get away with this one? How's it gonna call it Augusta National Women's Amateur but we can debate maybe we can debate that in a future episode. I'll always say Anwar. Okay. Well, Jordan, did you did you did you get one of the sweaters? Were you able to attain one of those? No, I did not. You know, I think the price tag kind of hurts a little bit. I also have a few Anwar things already, and I decided to kind of restrain myself a little bit. I was like, you know, that sweater is dope. Sickest thing ever.

But we got the thing is, it's just like you have the same same tournament logo, same stuff, you're kind of in your closet. It's like, okay, like cluttering up a little here, like, I've never gotten up bought one and gotten home and back, I'm glad I bought this. Like, it's almost always like, dude, I'm never gonna wear this. Fire, though, is this white sweater with the, you know, the flowery logo on it with red and yellow and green. It's really,

really sharp. All right, so I'll keep my eyes. I don't even know if they made it in amends, but Sally, if you see it in like a women's large or something, will you snag me one? I will definitely do that. I'm ready to see it on StockX for like $1,500. Yeah.

It's probably gonna happen. Probably a real problem there too. Like there needs to be something done on that front. I agree. The secondary market. All right, thank you, Jordan. We're gonna bring KBV back in here, There needs to be something done on that front. I agree. The secondary market. So. So. All right. Thank you, Jordan.

We're going to bring KBV back in here. The journalist here to help us because DC is going to have to answer for his cliques. Oh, oh, yeah. Well, first of all, speaking of answering for something, what happened with you getting your rental car today? Look, you know, I made a reservation. It was a total Seinfeld situation from for my friends at Avis. I made a reservation for a car. They took the reservation,

but there was no car when I got there. It was a massive line. They failed to hold the reservation. I had to wait for about an hour for a car. Sepp Strock was waiting behind me, you know, so it wasn't you know, I wasn't necessarily getting set. The CBS people got to skip the line. That was tough. But look, I mean, official official rental rental car, the PGA tour, though, right? I know that. Do you not have like a thing where you can walk right to your

car? You normally can. I do have that. I'm a president's club member, but it wasn't available. It sounds like an American available kind of thing. Come on over to Hertz. Yeah. Or national. I get actually get the status through by American status. But it or national. I get, I actually get the status through my American status, but, uh, uh, uh, yeah, we had a trap trial breaks out. Yeah. We had a, yeah, we had a great little afternoon. Um, I know you, you got to scout out some of the, um, some of the changes in

the golf course as well, TC, but, uh, yeah, we, we stumbled up to the, to the 18th or the first tee and watch just people roll through. I saw Scottie Schaeffler was playing a practice round with his sister today, which was pretty cool to see. She looked pretty darn nervous, but I'd never been there. I had a sister. I didn't really know that either. I didn't know that what Sunday before the Masters is like that there's members out there playing. There's a ton of past champs playing it was wild to just like, sit there and Tom Watson rolls through Gary player rolls through Larry Mize, Mark

O'Meara. I mean, like we're fuzzy Zeller, Fred couples, like all these dudes. And there's not, there's no fans allowed past the, um, the drive chip and putts. I'm just like, stay in there watching these dudes. I got, I got, what am I ever going to see Gary player T off the 10th T at Augusta ever again? So I stood there watching that and, um, it was real quick on the Gary player thing. Did you guys see him with the given the talk to the drive driven by kid? The competition.

You've got to get in here. Just chip this in. You've got to use the leading edge. Don't know that this is bounce stock. This is talking to this is overseated. Right. This is talking to his overseated right? My dear, who's your coach?

Young money is crazy. Listen, back in my day. Listen, I've won this tournament more times than you've ever chipped a ball. Oh, that was fantastic. He's he's a great. I watched him. He was getting a drink at the turn and he was like looking at the labels of everything that he was pulling out all the, all the sugary drinks. He was putting all the sugary drinks back. And I

think he landed on some low Cal body armor or something like that. No lie. Trevor, I'm moving this over to us, but the video of Gary running on the treadmill and then running backwards when it was up on 10 was like legitimately amazing. Unbelievable. Look that up on Twitter. Gary posted it on his own Twitter and it's for an 85, 86 year old man to do, be able to do that is, is incredible. Yeah. He was having a great time out there. It was, it was all time vibes. I was getting ready to head back into the end of the club or the press building and somebody just gave me a teeny tiny tip of like, Hey, just maybe wait around just a second. I was like, Oh, I think I know why. And sure enough, Sunday red came rolling out of the locker

room going to go hit a couple of butts day on day read, excuse me, hitting a couple of plots on the putting green. He actually had like an old he you know, he had his normal gamer putter but like an old like almost, I don't even know how to describe like a heel shafted almost like calamity Jane style putter that he was using as like some kind of like training practice device of some kind of you like hit a couple putts with his Scotty and then he would go to the other one just to like I

could kind of hear him talking about his. Yeah, it's like throwing a change up. So throw a change up. I don't really know what that means. But he was he was doing some kind of drill with another putter and then took a couple couple clubs and just started walking the front nine and was just going to chip and putt around a bunch of bunch of greens but walking totally fine. Look totally fine. Look, look rusty putting he was watching putt one off the green

on the putting green. Can't win. You can dial it up. I'm sure between now and then. But I just yeah, it was very cool to watch. Watch Tiger stroll around there with almost no attention at Augusta's It's probably once in a lifetime too. Can he win? What if what if you miss? Yeah, like three hours of preview stuff. Yeah, we got a lot of master stuff we can cover in there But speaking of previous stuff the woodland feature that ESPN did yeah, Adam Schefter tweeted out That's where I saw it today. He was fantastic

It's great Jeff Darling, one of my friends and usually covers the NFL. Good, good reporter, good future person. So is pin does that right? Yeah, I haven't got that. I'll seek that out. But you want to talk about your live Miami to catch a bunch of that today, TC. So first of all, I want to ask you about the JT bone split. Okay. Hashtag free Justin. I think this one sounds a lot like there's some big Mike Thomas in there throwing his weight around possibly.

And it could be worried about JT. He needs to take control of his life. He needs to worry there might be a conservatorship or something going on there where he's kind of like Britney Spears, where he can't get away from his parents, can't make his own decisions. So I have no insight into the situation, TC. That sounds maybe a bit aggressive. I don't know if there's a good documentary made about this necessarily, but no, I really,

I really don't know what's happened here. This is the second time that we've seen bones split off from a, you know, multi major champion very close to, uh, right on the almost on the eve of, uh, of a major championship. And I don't know the full story. I, I, uh, I'm sure we'll get some kind of insight into it in some way, but yeah, I turn the comments off too. You know what though, if I was a celebrity, I'm turning the comments off on every tweet. I'd be like,

you want to fucking talk shit to me? Quote tweet me bitch. I don't need that shit. Claudia. My timeline. Oh God. There'd be absolutely no reason to ever. That should be a shirt. We get that dialed up by a, by tomorrow morning. I'm sure. Also like, I mean, I, we assume it's JT who made the decision, but maybe bones said, I don't really want to do this anymore. Do you want to do this? Like, who knows?

Right. Look, I think it's really insane that this came out a week before the masters. I can't imagine another caddy would be beneficial, more beneficial than bones a week for the masters. But honestly, like the results haven't been awesome. They've been a little better this year. They were last year, they were bad. He's kind of eaten a lot off of that first, you know, that major that they won together and you'd think like, I think we all thought, Oh, this is a sign of

things to come like on days when tournaments, when he doesn't have his best, he still can win the tournament and he can, he can win two, three more majors at least, and it just, he's kind of, you know, after that miscut of the players, obviously I would think that something there was like, Hey, we can't continue down this same path. I would, that would be my, Yeah. Weirdly. I feel a lot like how I did with Nelly with JT of, you know, kind of a wonky putter has all the shots wildly talented. Like I think the

world of JT's golf game, you know, I think he's got more variety in his game than just about anybody else out there as far as Tita green. And yeah, there's just something, I don't know. It's like, I'm waiting for it to click and it just hasn't, you know, it's hard to say. Like it's, it's hard to sit here and say, maybe they just didn't mesh well, didn't gel well, maybe don't speak the same language when they want to major together, right? And then have been together for quite some time.

But that could still be the case of, just whatever reason that the situation's not ideal. I mean, caddy player relationships are really fickle and if you all of a sudden just start to get the wrong vibes between the two of you for whatever reason, again, I'm, I'm just totally guessing. I don't have any information on, on any of this, but, um, you know, you can just want to change the scenery. And it is weird to me, like that bones will not be catching the masters.

Like that, uh, just seems like a massive waste of, uh, you know, of, of his talent. And he could help a lot of people. I know save a couple of shots around August, of, of his talent. And he could help a lot of people. I know save a couple of shots around Augusta national, but selfishly, I hope he goes back to commentating more because I think I'm better off for it as, as fans. I want to see, I want to, he needs to get out from NBC and go to CBS. I want to see him with CBS. I think, you know, someone that's investing a little bit more in the product.

I think he would work really well with that team. I know God bones and cold and Trevor back and forth. If the conditions are right, you could get bones up in here any minute. Guys, you see this thing about, about Tiger from the New York post, cutting out sex, taking a vow of celibacy in his, in his master's lead up. He's focused as a friend of the 48 year old golfer. He's working really hard in the gym. He's eating right. He's even eliminated sex unquote.

Listen, the New York post, God bless it. It has a place in our society. There's so much that appears in there. That's just utterly full of shit. Or like just what friend caught up in New York post and was like, let me tell you about tiger's current sex life here. First of all, like what friends does tiger have that he would tell? All right. We kind of know who tiger's friends are and like on one hand, and I don't think like Noda or like Byron Bell or like Steve Stricker is calling the New York post for this.

So this is like a friend of a friend of a friend. Maybe they're talking to one of his lady friends. I could be going right to the source. I just in general, like the post does do some occasionally good sports stuff, but this was not like one of their sports reporters. This was sort of like one of their gossip reporters. This is, this is the kind of shit that's funny. And like, you know what? Seven, eight years ago on this pod, we would have laughed about this shit forever,

but like, it's just not, it's not the kind of stuff that I feel particularly like comfortable in like laughing about. This is still like a person's life, right? These kids who are now old enough to read this stuff. I don't know what the right answer is and stuff. It's just weird. Maybe when we get to, when we have like Bryson's comments,

like that makes me laugh a lot harder now than Tiger sex jokes now, right? So also Brian Bell, it's a common misconstrued. It's Brian Bell just spelled really kind of like it was kind of like Byron or was it Brian Russell or exactly the same thing right? Look, if it's true and Tiger does really well, then my god like let's let's have our dude wins with the celibate Tiger

winning majors. You know, he's connected with his Buddhism again. Who knows? Yeah. But also, I don't know. I think there's enough there with Tiger was like, there's a dong shot floating around in the internet of Tiger. There's all this stuff for like a good 15 years there was like him putting himself in these positions.

So I don't think it's necessarily completely out of bounds either. You know what, KVD, I hope Ken is our, it comes up and punches you in the mouth and protects the New York coast honor. I don't think that's going to happen. I think I'm going to be all right there. I think John, you know, Mark and I are very friendly. This is not one thing that he reported. Yeah. All right. Well, you've been, you've been deflecting on this TC. There's a question from suds muffin.

He said, why is Martin Kymar still the captain of the cliques when he hasn't contributed a score in multiple tournaments and Dick bland is on the roster. Wow. Yeah, no, I, uh, sorry. In fact, I have not been deflecting on this. I've been, I've been the one asking this question all over social this week and in the weeks leading up to Live Miami. The Cliques went out. When you count three scores, they tend to play really well. And then they get to day four and Kaeya Samuja and Martin Kymar just fill their pants. And Blandi and Moranque can only

do so much. Blandi finished tied for 14th this week, the all-important top 14 to finish. And tied for 14th this week, the all important top 14 finish. And like it was, it was pretty, I watched some of it this afternoon. The route was playing pretty tough. Joaquin was putting together a good score. Obviously, you know, your man, Dean, Dean Bermester got it done in a playoff over Sergio. Brandon grace comes in and sprays Sergio a champagne afterwards. Or there could be a, a rival redeveloping between the South Africans and the Spaniards there, but no, the cliques, they were like, I think they were in striking distance of a podium. They had a really good shot at like a third place finish.

I finished ninth. I didn't just seeing this. Rom's, Rom's Legion 13 team was, was, you know, kind of running away with it. And then Kymer goes out and shoots 77 or sorry, 76 in the final round. Somoja shoots 77. Uh, just not good, not good at all. Kymer, Kymer hasn't done shit all year. It's like, I just, I feel like I'm getting really, really exhausted following this franchise. What if, TC, what if we sent you to Adelaide and had you ask these questions?

I don't even know if they have press conferences. Like I think they do where they take questions from them. Well, I mean, Greg Norman called Adelaide the best, you know, has voted the best golf tournament in the world. It's true. And he told, he told good, good morning Adelaide and that, uh, that in, in between them complimenting on the size of his dong.

Quite literally. They started and finished with the size of his dog in that interview. No, but yeah, I'm, you know what? Like if not Adelaide, that might be a little, little far to go. You know, if not Adelaide, maybe I could go to Singapore, right? Maybe I could use that as my opportunity to fly Singapore airlines or maybe, you know, if not Adelaide, maybe I could go to Singapore, right? Maybe I could use that as my opportunity to fly Singapore airlines. Uh, or maybe, you know, maybe I could, you know, go to Houston or Nashville in the middle of the summer, which I really, really don't want to do. I think I'd rather fly to Singapore. Um, but yeah, I don't know the cliques.

It just feels like we're so freaking close. It feels, and then it just, it's like two steps forward, three steps back. And it all comes back to Kymer like at some point Like we like the captain needs to be able to get relegated because it's one of those Franchises that like it's a non equity franchise like Kymer doesn't have equity in the franchise either So and blandies put this fucking team on his back You know season and a half now You know, season and a half now. I never know.

I don't know if it's a bit anymore. The whole time. I think he's serious. It was a bit. And now, like, I legitimately, I legitimately invested in the cliques. I swear to God, it's like I can't like I can't not care. Like I'm like, when he keeps shocking everyone,

like he's really fucking good. It's playing really good. I think among the crooked media, the cliques get more coverage than anybody because of this podcast. I think you're doing a great job. Tc of holding your fan base and your, your franchise accountable. I'd like to see some of the other people step up. And I'd like to see some of the other people in the media out there. You know, what's, what's going on with the rippers or, you know, the range goats, what, why they haven't been successful either. And yet

you don't hear anybody calling for their captains. It's almost like nobody cares. The range goats are kind of Jacqueline high. They finished second this week. One shot behind Legion 13. You know, the Ripper, Cam Smith withdrew with, with food poisoning. I think, you know, I had never heard of refill them. Like a true single Campbell. Yeah. Leash was playing well, you know, but it's one of those things I saw a clique supporter climbed up into a tree down at Doral today

and identified Blandy's ball that was in a tree. That's, that's the kind of people that's who we are as cliques. We're best fans of golf. We're cliques in the streets and freaks in the bed. When it freaks in the sheets. That would have been an easier rhyme. Yeah that's that that works too. I butchered that. It just came to me man. You know what, but all right. So, and then majestic and high flyers, both finished tied for dead last.

Like both players are just trash, man. I don't really understand. Like if I'm supposed to take this serious, why is Mickelson like clearly not even trying to. Oh, I'm sorry. You're going to comment on chess move number seven. We wait until you see chess moves 32. All right, all right.

Maybe he shorted his own. You have no vision. You have absolutely no vision for this thing on chess move number seven. We wait until you see chess moves 32, 37. All right. Maybe he shorted his own. You have no vision. You have absolutely no vision for this thing or any understanding of how the high flyers are going to build a franchise. Kevin, that's just, that's all on you. They're getting beat by the iron heads guys.

It's like bad. Does it matter that Rom hasn't won one of these tournaments yet? Right? He hasn't won yet. I don't think. Is it seen? He hasn't won. I don't think it matters. I mean, he played fine. He was, you know, he finished like tied for fourth this week. Sure. Yeah, he's played fine. He should win these tournaments. But are you saying like, does it matter for master's week? I think so. Right. I

got doesn't matter for live because it doesn't, we know it doesn't matter for live. If he, if he'd won every single live tournament. I don't think it would have moved the needle. So well, I mean, it's me off to they bumped up some of the teas today on the par threes. And I think that that kind of played against Rom a little bit too. So but I I hated seeing you know, Dean Bermester it sounded like he was shocked that he, this

one didn't get him in the masters. Tom Poole is asking him. He's like, yeah, you beat 13 guys that are going to be playing in the masters next week. Do you think you should be there? Like pretty seriously sounded like he kind of thought he'd played good enough to get a master's invite. So why even do this at this point? Like I, again, it's all they know. It's one note. It's just exactly. It's playing the grievance button over and over again. Like it's not exactly like Fred Ridley is going to be watching this and be like, you know, boys, I really think Dean Bermeser should be here this week.

Let's get him on an airplane and get him in here. Like that's not happening. So what audience are you playing to at this point? I just I don't get it at all. I'm wondering if this is maybe good news for your cliques. TC. We saw that Saudi Arabia has been greatly scaling back the Neom project. It was once projected to have 1.5 million people living in this line city of however many hundred miles long, as tall as the Empire State.

But only 300,000 people are now projected to live there. So does that free up a bunch of money for the cliques to go spend this off season? Like, are they repurposing a lot of this funding for their citizens for this golf league? Do you think? It could, you know, I think the cliques need, need obviously need more resources. They're firmly like a middle market team that, you know, they're trying to punch above their weight doing more with less kind of thing. Meanwhile, you know, the goats and the crushers and all these guys, they're a market, like what's the whole-

King Abdul economic city? I think they're like team, you know, I think they're like the EU team, right? You got, you know, you got Finland represented, you got Germany represented, you've got Blandy's a citizen of the world. I'm sure he's doing some, I'm sure Blandy's probably has a place in the Bahamas at this point for tax reasons or, or, you know, the middle East. And then you've got Poland represented as well. So it could be, you know, maybe it's a NATO team. Right?

Well, I'm just finally glad that we have a leader that has emerged and, you know, kind of solving some of these problems that we see in golf, you know, maybe, you know, this divided, fractured landscape, if you will. There's a comment that came out from this week that said, the only answer is for us to somehow come together in some sort of terms where it makes sense. And for us to be playing again in somewhat of the same boat, it's great to have the majors where we come together, but we want to be competing.

At least I want to be competing every week with the best players in the world for sure. And needs to happen fast. It's not a two year thing. Like it needs to happen quicker rather than later, just for the good of the sport. Too many people are losing interest. That is of course from Bryson to Shambo who left the PGA tour for this live golf league sued those guys as well. After leaving out of principle, I believe he said, and, uh, at once, uh, claiming all of the wonders of live golf. Now he's desperately looking for the guy that did this, that's fractured this game and wants to get it back together. So that is, that was some, that was some special stuff. That was, I was taking a break from Twitter and I came back. I was

two days late on that one. I was like, that was in the models that that was going to happen. I was going to miss a good Bry Bryson quote cause that one was special. I'm really excited to see Bryson this week. Like it feels like he's kind of ramping back up as far as like saying, I'll read your shit. Doing so- I need pressers from these live guys. I need like Phil press conference.

I want some of these guys to get some quite, maybe are they, do we think Augusta is trying to avoid that? Do we think they're saying no to the opportunity from Augusta? I need to hear from these guys. I saw Brooks has one. Obviously, Rom has one. Anybody else have one? I do not think so. I think they're the only two. I look, Phil, whatever you think of him. His 20 years ago, he won the

Masters for the first time. It does feel a little bit weird to not have a presser for you. He finished second last year. Yeah, like I think we've ripped Phil, we've made fun of Phil, we've laughed at Phil, we've enjoyed Phil. Maybe he doesn't want one. Yeah, I think there I think there's a chance of that. But I would love to if he did want one, I would think he should have had an opportunity extended to if we're gonna have these guys compete, then like, let's get them out there and let's have them do as Phil can be. Last year was, if you remember the whole so weird, he didn't

speak to anyone during the entire champions dinner. A couple of people, come of the old guys sort of pass that word along. He was being super like cold and weird. And then like he had, he kind of got back into it his first round he had sort of a wild first round and then he was really engaging and fun for the first time it was the first time since he went to live that he didn't seem like he'd been lobotomized. And it was fun. It was like fun to have the old fillback like cracking jokes and you know telling how this is why I hit driver out of the middle

of fairway on eight and I was the only he's, I've hit a ton of bad shots here. So trust me, I know what can go wrong when that shit happens. And that was fun. I was like, man, this is the Phil guy that I wanted to have for the last, you know, whatever left of his career. And I, you know, if he's, if he's willing to be that guy, then great. Let's have him out here. Yeah. I'm looking forward to just putting all this aside for a week and we'll, we're going to do a full master's preview. That'll be out Monday night and we'll have happy hour Wednesday.

A lot of masters talk to be, to be had, but, um, w we will not have the, uh, the best iron player in the game over the last 20 years, um, in the field this week does of course, Mr. Greg Norman referring to one Taylor Gooch, which said that, yes, best iron player in the game of golf in the field this week does of course, Mr. Greg Norman referring to one Taylor gooch, which said that yes, best iron player in the game of golf in the past 20 years that I've personally, that sounds like something I would say about like Tommy or somebody, you know, Greg obviously believes in the eye test. You know, he just doesn't, he hasn't seen it from tiger. He hasn't seen it from Scotty. John Rom said, Hey, he had some comments this week. He said, you know, I say the same thing. I always say to this, I think there's room for both and all of this in,

for live golf and the PGA tour, which there's no evidence that supports that. Phil had some comments as well. Like, yeah, right now we're in the disruption phase, but we're in the middle of the process. When it's all said and done, it's going to be a lot brighter. But while we go through it, it's challenging, but we'll get there. Just want to remind people he got $200 million for all this. This is there's no disruption phase if he doesn't get paid off to do all this. Also, so he said that the PGA tour was on its way down, I

think lives on the way up and I like where I'm at. Totally. And now talked a lot of shit about Jay Monahan and all that. I mean, if you follow the caffeine TV ratings, it's true. It's true. It's true. It's huge in barbershops and airports. And Anthony Kim had maybe the best technology related quote we've had in years for professional players that the games change so much. I thought that when I first got on tour with titanium drivers, but now

it's come to a point where you don't have to hit a ball in the center and you can get the same amount of yardage and accuracy as somebody who does hit it at the center. Obviously not being a huge guy. My advantage was being able to hit the ball in the middle of the face and be in the fairway. But now everybody's hitting it long. Everyone's hitting it semi straight. So it ends up being a bombers putting contest. I'm not the longest guy out here, but using the right technology, I'm hitting it a little bit further and hopefully I'll make a couple of puts this week. Done. Dear. Farther Anthony. It's sick quote. Yeah.

But I hate seeing him find out what Bryson found out last week in his social videos. Well, I mean just print those that out. He hasn't played golf in like 12 years. He's hitting it farther and he's just saying it doesn't matter if he hit it in the center of the face. Done deal. Move on. Also by the way, it did not go particularly well for him this week. I think,

I saw he was one of the worst rounds that the, they'd had on record in terms of strokes gain. He was a loss like almost 10 strokes in the field. So it was 21 over. It sounded like some more details came out about his return. It sounded like he didn't pick up a club until like three or four months ago. Be interested in this documentary that he was teasing that he, I hope it does find a distributor because I hope he'll sort of tell the full

tale. He kind of hinted at it like there's some bad guys out there. They took advantage of me, but he didn't talk about, you know, what a lot of people think is like there's substance abuse issues. And I am interested in hearing that stuff. I am still rooting for him. Like I really want him to find peace and he seems happier. He seems like, you know, got back in the game because his wife was interested in playing and, you know, Speaker 3rd 4th 15m 48s Yeah, I take, you know, no joy out of, out of him in the scores he's putting up or any, it's not, I don't want to joke about him at, at Liv's expense.

I'm literally that, that quote is just a joke about the technology face in golf. It says nothing to do with Anthony Kim other than, yeah, I hope he this is fulfilling him in some way. I still have very suspicious, you know, suspicions of the people that have lured him into this. But that's maybe a story for another time. But let's move to close here, TC, because we got a lot of stuff to cover all week. Some a few house announcements if you want to get to

God, I guess first and announcements if you want to get to. Got it. First and foremost, I want to congratulate the winners of the chunks of the Chuck. One of our events, go to events.knowlingup.com or the full event slate and get involved there. I think that's got a lot of good stuff coming up here, May, June, July, especially. So all over the country kind of get involved and go to the refuge as well. So a lot of people were asking about what we were doing in Scotland on the reversible. Will there be content coming up from that? Unequivocally, yes. We filmed the heck out of it. We brought a couple of friends of the program along to film as well. And we got

some truly shit weather, which actually should make it even better. And I can just say the old course in reverse was like, I was probably more excited to do that than I have been to do anything in recent memory and it far exceeded my expectations. It was one of the coolest things I've ever had the privilege of doing. I was suspect that it would feel like a fun round of golf.

It's a cool novel. I thought it'd be a bit more of a novelty. It was incredible. And I won't spoil in much of it. It's gonna be out later this summer. But we filmed a whole bunch. We went to Troom. You guys went over to Aaron for a day and filmed over there. We filmed on the on the new course. We filmed the castle course. We got a lot of great content coming. Give us some time. We got Taurus sauce is coming out right after the Masters. You're about to get hit with a cannon full. I just we have loaded up the cannon of video stuff and it's going to start

hitting as soon as the Masters is done. It premieres Wednesday, April 17th. So that's coming. We'll have a Masters preview pod out Monday night. That's available on YouTube and on wherever you get your podcast feeds. Probably Tuesday morning. That'll be up. I'm gonna be doing a Twitter Spaces, with I believe some on the Masters feed on Tuesday evening with some, it should be very exciting, I should say. Should be some good content from the people that I think are scheduled to be on that one. And then we'll have a happy hour show, I believe 4 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday,

during the last half hour of the par three contest. We'll be doing that and then of course have live shows after every single round of the Masters, Thursday. We'll be doing that. And then of course have live shows after every single round of the Masters Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. We will have writing on no laying up.com. We will have some maybe a little bit of video stuff coming out this week. It's it's coming now. It's coming fast. We appreciate you spending Masters Week with us and engaging in the content. Chime in on the live

shows, get in there live, get in there harass us, make fun of us, do all that stuff. Subscribe on the YouTube channel, all that stuff, because we're pouring in the resources this week. It's going to be fantastic. Guys, I think we're kind of at that point in the season when I had dreams this week. I had some weird dreams. I had a dream. Bryson appeared in my dreams that he was out at the tree farm, I had a dream, Bryson appeared in my dreams that he was out at the tree farm. Zach Blair's new course and just, you know, it was kind of blowing his mind. And then somewhat relatedly, I met Tom Doak and I were having a beer and he just made me keep apologizing over and over and over again. I like, I must have apologized to him a hundred times.

You see, I joke that this was like the, uh, her brook scene in miracle, where he just again, again, again, I think we could make that happen. I hope we can. I hope it looks out there. Listen, I don't, I don't need, I don't have anything to apologize. In your dreams. Apparently I didn't like the little something on your conscience. All right. That is it. A lot of podcasts and coming your way this week. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you to AT&T, H&B and Titleist, of course, TC, Jordan Perez, KVV. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll see you all week at Augusta National. Cheers.

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