No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 82: Players Championship Wrap with Tron Carter

Episode Date: May 17, 2017

Tron and I debrief on the 2017 Players Championship and our week in Ponte Vedra soaking up the scene. We talk about the courses we played in the area, other #BlogCabin activities, and of course... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 82: Players Championship Wrap with Tron Carter appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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the amazing package that's going to come a bit later in the show. Also, check out our website for the full story. For now, let's get to the wrap up of the players championship. for the most. family last night helped bathe his young son and perhaps allowed himself a fleeting glimpse of what could become and he says nothing will change for him today perhaps he's right and if he is then everything will change it's our Mother's Day gift to you all this glorious madness so to the pod we go, Tron, what's happened? Ah, good to be back, Sally. I'm a store of coverings from the blog cabin last week. Just scheduled my yearly allergy season sinus infection. So battling through that, just getting vertical up by 95 right now.

I'll wait up the Greenville, South Carolina. That was my Josh Elliott, for those who don't know that. That was the Josh Elliott intro from two years ago, which will forever live in infamy. First of all, of the four of us, you're the least deserving person to be on the wrap-up podcast after your performance Sunday night and what was supposed to be our four-man go in

person you decide to take a little nap at the blog cabin but tell us what you are on your way to do. I am going to I somehow fell ask backwards into the spot in the BMW Championship Pro Am this week up in Greenville so it's on the web tour I'll play with Chess and Hadley and then Shipper Jones and AJ and Mac and Ernie are in our group as well so yeah kind of pinching myself it's gonna be a good week playing a little fast and loose with the term celebrity with this event. Actually one of the caddies was like, yeah, we actually get a real celebrity this year. But yeah, I'm going to try to get Chipper lined up for like roast my swing. I think Aaron Rogers is in the field.

Your boy Larry, the cable guy. Carl Titt, and Fred Schruffrensen Valar, and then some country music dude, some CSI actors and that sort of thing. So it'll be a good time. I'm looking forward to it. Got a couple of buddies coming up to Cadi for me, a couple of days my dad's going to Cadi for me one day, so it'll be good. Franchise getting involved.

I love it. It's going to be fun. We're going to want to hear the debrief report on that. But that's going to be a trick. Will they have shot tracker for you? I hope not. I think I'm playing. We tee off. There's three courses, the Preserve at Ferde.

So I'm pronouncing that correctly. Playing that tomorrow. And then Thornblade, which iscing that correctly, plan that tomorrow, and then Thornblade, which is like the main course, plan that on Friday. So I'll be like right in the broadcast window on Friday. The broadcast window. Oh, so, I will see if that's a good thing or a bad thing. And then play Ferdinand University course on Saturday.

So, and then if we play well, Sunday again, in Thornblade. So, we'll see. And then if we play well, Sunday again in Thornton Blit. So we'll see, but yeah, hopefully I imagine there will be some coverage, one or two shots here there, and then definitely gonna try to do some pods and interactive stuff throughout the week. So I'm pumped, man, I'm pumped to go to Greenville too. I haven't been there in a while. It's such an underrated little city.

I just want one YPS fade on Pro Tracer. I don't think they do much Pro Tracer on the web door, but that's all I want. Is one YPS fade. Sure, I can line it up. Probably a, you know, I'm getting my alignment a little bit more sorted here, but it's still like, I'm still aiming like 20 yards, right?

And then trying to draw the ball and sometimes it just doesn't draw on the hit of a white beach fade off of a already lined up right. So there will be some fireworks at some point, I'm sure. Well you did get it figured out by the end of week last week, your game figured out, which we'll get to. But figure we break down the week. It was a week of a lot happening, not a lot of sleep, a lot of alcohol, a lot of logistics, but also a lot of fun.

What's your overall? You're back in Amsterdam, right? I'm back in Amsterdam. I'm back in Amsterdam. Yeah, I made it back. We wanted to record a pod as soon as we were done, as mentioned. But the logistics of the blog cabin didn't, we're not set up great for actually producing content.

To neither do we set it. You're actually blogging? Yeah, there was not a lot that, not a work that got done. It was more like a buddy's trip than it was an actual work trip. But I mean, there was, that was kind of the idea as well was to kind of show what show what the Jacksonville area has to offer and what it's like to have a group of guys go and attend a tournament

and kind of cover it. So we had a hell of a time and it was a super, super busy week which didn't get off to the best start, if I may say. I had a bit of a 39-hour travel day from Amsterdam to the blog cabin in Pontavidra. The plan was to get in Monday night because you guys had lined up a shootout, a golf Twitter shootout with Zach Blair in attendance at the course right behind our house. So tell us about that and then I'll tell my story as to why I missed it. Yeah, so we really didn't nail down like a format. So that's kind of to be determined. It was kind of a warm up for next year I think. But basically I think we had eight or nine some out there. This course, Oak Bridge National, you know, top notch facility there in the Plano Vigia area. We

ZV was all in and then like DJ Pi, Sean Mart, all the dudes from the block cabin, and then our gut panther Mike, shout out panther Mike from Sea Island, part of the Sea Island shout out Panther Mike from Sea Island, part of the Sea Island crew. So we basically did a shootout and basically made up the rules as we went along. ZB kind of changed the rules to keep me in the game for a little bit. Yeah, I was very dishonest. Very dishonest. So yeah, the blog cabin was on like the second home. So you know, basically just kind of floated around right on over there afterwards. So, yeah, it was great time that we went to know the blue afterwards,

squash the beef with smiley. And then, you know, Andy, Andy got inside speech's head a little bit, told him, told him he was coming for him. I think Andy is going to the US Open local qualifying, he's doing it tomorrow. So definitely got inside speech head a little bit there. Because I mean, Andy, Andy, the fried egg ended up winning the Saga shootout, profiled over his act player. winning the Sargraf shootout, profiled over Zach Blair, but I may or may not have

go to Zach into going for it out of the fairway bunker from like 280 with the whip like two feet in front of his ball. I can't believe we didn't get a video of that, but yeah it was kind of a kind of an asterisk by Andy's name on the championship trophy. But definitely, next year, I think we want to get like 20 people in the sawgrass shootout. That'd be awesome. Sounds sweet.

Well, I was sorry to miss it. What happened to me, and I usually hate flight stories in general of people being really dramatic about things that happen. I think this qualifies as an exception. We took off from Amsterdam at 830 in the morning and we were over the Atlantic Ocean on our way to Atlanta and a gentleman two seats in front of me an 88 year old man. I noticed him when he got on the flight, he had an oxygen tube in his nose, noticed him get on the flight and just kind of thought to myself, wow that is that's quite an old man to be on a transatlantic flight. He got up to go to

the restroom and he never came back to his seat and I didn't think a lot of it at the time until the flight attendant came over the loudspeaker and asked if there was a doctor on board. And before I knew it, I turned around, the doctor was hurrying back to what was, so I was in like in row 42, so I was almost in the very back of the plane. And they had him laid on the back kind of where the drink station was and the lavatories were. And there was a guy performing CPR on this man. And it was kind of a panic.

I mean, the flight attendants did an unbelievable job of attending to him. There were three, I don't know if they were Marines or Army or military guys that were back there alternating performing CPR on this man who's heart stopped over the middle of the ocean and they spent over an hour trying to resuscitate him. We were far enough along in the flight that I thought we were gonna try to make it to the East Coast.

We were it could not have happened in a worse place. Before we knew it we turned the plane around and we were two hours west of Shannon in Western Ireland and we attempted to divert the flight in time to get him medical attention on the ground. But before we made it to Shannon, he was pronounced dead on the flight, which was one of the more bizarre horrifying experiences I've had in my life, I can say. It was surreal. I've still come into terms with it. His wife was with him and she was in pretty much in complete shock and I've given major props to Delta for the way they handled

the incident and providing him the attention, getting 240 people off the plane into hotels, re-booked on flights the next day. For the most part, people were extremely cooperative with Delta. No one was getting upset. No one, no one, everyone understood the circumstances and how they, how hard of a hand they were dealt. I know that made a little bit of national news that, that, that this happened on a flight and I haven't been sitting two rows behind the guy and it was

Man, it was I don't know how to describe it. It's not a it's not a funny story It's not a great story. It's just an unbelievable thing and I Send my thoughts to their family and to kind of go through that to kick off the week was was quite Not really right for a couple of days there. Yeah, I mean, you know, understand Lisa how? Yeah, I mean, what do you do in that spot and not to make it about me at all? Because that's, but you know, I'm sitting so close to it happening and I felt like a jerk, I don't know, kind of rude turning around watching it,

being so helpless. Yet I couldn't just turn around and go back to watching my movie. It was such an uncomfortable position to be in and just seeing all the logistics and kind of people going up and down the aisles and confusion on the plane. I mean, it is amazing that most of the plane didn't realize what had happened because they announced that the next day when we all got back on the plane, people were shocked. There was a noticeable gasp on the plane when they announced that he did not survive. And it was, yeah, I mean, I was very close to it.

And I was pretty, I've never seen someone die. So that was a little bit shocking. But moving on to more fun things, if I can, it was the most glorious day possible in Western Ireland. So I did my very best to get out and play some golf. Lucky had my clubs with me. I tweeted out that I was landing there trying to see if somebody could pick me up to take me out to Lahinch or belly bunion. It didn't I'm working out. I ended up heading up to... Try to make lemonade. Try to. Try to. I only packed golf clothes for Florida though and normally golf clothes you wear in Florida do not work in Ireland but on this day they did. But ended up squeezing

18 holes in at Limert Golf Club and then a friend of mine that I met at Colleen Castle last year, Andrew Keely went and picked me up and we went over to his club at Balli Neely and played nine holes which yeah I made the most of it. The night ended with us kind of in a local pub downtown, listening to local Irish pub music and having a few pints of Guinness. And it was the most unexpected layover I could have imagined. I couldn't have pictured my day would end that way,

but we made the most of it, but made it way to the cabin. And yeah, we did a little work on Tuesday afternoon, filmed something that is never gonna see the light of day apparently and Whenever I called birdhard long hair Hans Gruber you did that did not that did not help the situation. I don't think We had over to the same hunt concert that night, which was awesome fun a huge gathering around the 17th hole Tony Fee now was having none of it out getting reps in during the middle of the concert. The big tower knuckle. That was phenomenal. Went to know a blue again that night and then went back to the

cabin and had a take session that I think went until two or three o'clock in the morning. So he's became a nightly tradition at the cabin and there was not a lot of sleep that followed that. Yeah and then I think the cabin and there was not a lot of sleep to follow that. Yeah, and then I think the highlight for me was Wednesday morning that first timers, Cresser. Well, yeah, because you didn't come back to the cabin at 7 a.m. like you were supposed to when we were told we had a surprise guess. No, you were not. That's just information. You were not given misinformation fake news. So I stayed at home most of the night, I really all the nights,

I lived like four miles away from the vlog cabin, so I would rather sleep with my wife and then my bathed my young son each night. So I was commuting back and forth to the cabin. I was a commuter resident of the cabin. Kind of a bedroom community. But yeah, I mean, yeah, so you guys had a special guest. 7 a.m. knocking on our door. We didn't know who was coming. Bernard Longer shows up with Donuts. And a camera crew and kind of as a promotion for him being the senior players champion

which got him into the event and kind of had his own little personal media day in our backyard at the cabin a bit of a roundtable discussion which you guys would have heard on the last podcast. It was recorded outdoors around a table just on my phone so it wasn't the best audio quality but had a really nice time talking to him kind of unscheduled from our perspective. We didn't know who was coming. We couldn't really prepare and we really enjoyed out sitting outside talking to him. Then we did head over to the course and the tour had set up like a first timers, everyone that was playing the players for the first time was kind of had their own like super bowl chair there and people can go up and talk to him and then they gave us a

room that we could go record podcasts. And kind of did we didn't know who was coming in the door next it was me you and Kyle Porter had a room and just had a recorder going and we just at the last second you know somebody be like oh so and so is coming in so again no prep time before we went in there I felt really bad I think it was his agent I forget who it was said, uh, I, when he asked, I thought he said, do you guys need, you guys want cameras? And I said, no, no, no, but it turned out he said, do you guys want Cameron, like Cameron Smith? So my reaction to him asking if I wanted Cameron was like, oh, no, no, no, not at all. I felt

horrible about that because we, I was like, no, no, no, no, we definitely want to talk to Cameron. So Cameron came in, which I, with him for a while, then I forget what the order of operations was. Was it? There was Cameron and Cameron, you know, yeah. So Cameron and then Cameron's agent is Jason Day's agent too. So he was kind of like, he had his eye on me. He had his eye on me. Yeah, across the room.

But yeah, he was cool. But yeah, he was cool. But yeah, Cameron and then... Mackenzie Hughes is next. We Mackenzie Hughes, yeah, he was fantastic. He was phenomenal. He was a huge revelation for me this week. I think he's got a great, great future ahead of him. And I think it just goes to show you, too,

like go up to this web tour event. It's just all about timing, you know, getting hot at the right time and capitalizing on your opportunities. Because he's a guy like just listening to his story. A Canadian guy went to Kent State, you know, basically got hot, got hot out on the Web Tour, partly that into, you know, some PGA Tour status. And then, you know, he's definitely kind of acquitted himself well in a relatively short period of time. I mean, he was in the Canadian Tour for a while. So he's really moved up the ladder pretty progressively. So that was a pretty interesting conversation. I mean, I think he's a really good player.

I think he's a really good player. I think he's a really good player. I think he's really moved up the ladder pretty progressively. So that was a pretty interesting conversation. He was extremely thoughtful. Just all of his answers were, you'd tell, he really, it wasn't just stock stereotypical stuff. But yeah, I mean, Cameron Smith was interesting

to talk to as well. He was, I'm fascinated by the young all-sharing guys they come over here and you know kind of leave leave their lives behind so far from the world so far you can tell he kind of missed home too just in what he was talking you know oh for sure for sure so but yeah I mean it's great to see him get a win and you know really, really solidify himself over here and it gets him a little bit more flexibility as far as, you know, being able to go home and play a little bit more of a global schedule to it. So, yeah. Well, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this live. I've never done this live.

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So I really am hoping like not like one of my friends doesn't win this because people are gonna get really mad People are already mad that it only relates to us in Canada, which yes understands But people when they when they get their free stuff, they don't get too excited about it. Anyway, back to the first time I was coming through, Blaine Barber came through. He's a guy we've talked to a lot over the years. Big inhale, you support him. Yeah, big guy.

He called it a dream come true to come on for 10 minutes, which I think you should dream a lot bigger if I'm tough. But no, I'd love to have a couple of those guys back for longer discussions. And it was kind of a tough setup to get in and out in 10 minutes. Guys coming in and out of the room and really flowing through quick,

but we had a blast just kind of spitball and stuff at him. So. And Blaine, yeah, Blaine, that was the closest thing. He's got some kind of a hometown event. He's from Lake City, Florida. And his mom, you know, has been a volunteer at the players for a long time. And actually, he had a great week.

He kind of tops the trophy, played extremely well. I think Thursday, Friday, and then struggle a little bit on his front nine on Saturday, and then had a great round on Sunday. So really, I think he had a top 25 finish, which is just the amount of money the players it's insane. You finished top 25.

I mean, it's a game definition top 10 anywhere else. As far as just the payout and everything. So, but yeah, I mean, so he was fantastic. I want to get him on a pod just, you know, he's in, you know, full a full pod him, him and all these other guys. I mean, I feel like we lucked out. Right. Talk to Michael Kim came in. Yep. about him, just because he had such a like a storied amateur career. And then, you know, he was just a really engaging guy as well. So, you know, exceptionally talented guy, he was, you gave us some great answers. So, and then Tommy Fle Fleetwood, I mean, he was awesome. He lives from Southport, so right by Burkdale there, and he was extremely interesting to

talk to too, and wanted Abu Dhabi this year. He had a great story from that. So if you haven't listened to that pod, go back and listen to it. It was a good crew that came in. Yeah. Am I forgetting anybody? No, that was it. I think that was the final.

So now that was kind of a bit of a different tempo, different, different gig for us as well. We don't do a lot of in-person pods with players. Really, that was my first time actually doing it. So, but look forward to doing more stuff like that in the future. Apologies because shortly after that my computer died and I did not bring a euro to US converter. So I couldn't charge my computer. I couldn't get it edited.

I was like racing against the clock as my computer was close to dying and didn't make it. So I had to find somebody's charger and that didn't actually match my computer and probably risk like short circling the board, the electrical board of my computer. That's the second trip in a row you've been on with me, that you have a broad convertor, man. Do you even travel? I don't, apparently not. I travel in Europe, which is all the same converter. Like I don't think about these kind of things, but I did forget that in England too, you're right. But I'll learn, I'll learn. Then Wednesday, I went out and played Panna Vigia and in club, a great course, which I think you're going to be playing a lot of golf at in the future. Yeah. Legitimately, some of the bet definitely the best from Unigreens I've ever put it on

and some of the best greens total I've ever putted on. Which made me feel way better. I've been putting on mostly on link screens all year and putting horribly. So to actually see some balls go in the hole was was quite a relief to me, but that was a great course. I'd love to go back out there. Finch him and Monahan live on the course, saw their houses and yeah, it was a cool vibe out there. You're gonna love it. They got a couple of courses out there there so we did meet the commission I did well we went Jay so I did an introduce ourselves and he was he couldn't have been couldn't have been more engaging yeah yeah I was just like yeah man what's

up I know about you guys and he was like really that's cool yeah I was like is that good or bad no I did like it's in digging this week, trying to find somebody within the tour, people that have worked under J and Whitch A for years, trying to find somebody to say a bad word about this guy. I got nothing, man. It's incredible. It's amazing.

It's like, it's almost like state run media, but like everyone's just saying good things about them, but it's like, it's amazing it's like it's it's it's it's it's almost like state-run media but it like it everyone just saying good things about them but it's like it's genuine and it's finally somebody was like yeah I was just one moment nine years ago where he got upset with somebody and then immediately apologize that's it like that's absolutely it nobody could say a bad word about it it's really amazing how how much people go out of their way to praise him but man it sounds like it's good. He's got, you know, he's got Tiberius Votal to be kind of his, his right hand man,

be the bad guy a little bit of people. So you can keep that, you need that, for Sonagallan, you know. Yeah. But I don't know. This was, I don't, I haven't been, you know, I go to the memorial pretty much every year, but I don't get to go to a lot of tour events. But the kind of get behind the scenes and see how the sausage is made for an event this huge.

I mean, I came away pretty impressed with just overall logistics and how convenient, absolutely everything was in the tournament. Even the traffic, getting in and out of the place, and we were on bikes, but we even coming, we played golf a couple of mornings and then came to the tournament midday, we never once waited in traffic.

I just thought the whole event, and we'll get to the lack of leaderboard and whatnot and kind of the missing vibe from it a bit. But the whole event was just run as smooth as really. I've ever seen one. Yeah, no, for sure. And I mean, the media center there is unreal. Great media center.

I think I had about 50 smoothies this week. We can't be media center guys that just rave about the best. No, I know. So I'm almost to the point now where in the media center, it's like third or fourth event this year. And I'm getting to the point where I think I'm, I think I'm, I want to be back on the other side of the ropes and be back and biving adult beverages with the fans. You know? Just kind of, you lose a little bit of that experience.

It turns in a little bit of groupthink. You know, you just, like, that was the most important I think my thing last week. I was like, I feel like I had, I had low T. I had low takes. It's not a productive work environment. Like everyone just kind of gossips and talks in there. You need like a desk in the corner where you can hide people. But that was like, I heard Bamberger was there this week. Like, you know, didn't step foot in the media center. But they were just rumblings that he was there.

Like, that's, that's the best. It's just that's the way to It's just totally flying under the radar. But yeah, I mean, also, props to all the media guys, just for actually being able to get shit done. That was, I don't think I could ever, somebody's other walking up to you or up to you. Or I rode a little bit there and it was it was just like You know you get no flow going but yeah, it was good to meet you know It was pretty much the look through there was good to meet like I met Jim McKay. He was fantastic

Gonna talk to him for hours Just a bunch of But you know good to put a bunch of names to faces faces to face making out a more real that was good Yeah, I went out and we followed the JT Rory DJ group in the afternoon on Thursday after we played a little golf Thursday morning at Marsh Landing Me, you Jordan Wink and DJ Pye. Really enjoyed that golf course. Really enjoyed the front nine especially. Back nine was a little less than perfect but that was a fun layout.

I'd like to play some more. I think that might have just been I think you enjoyed more of what seven six awesome the front and then we just kind of pressing somehow you what we were seven up through nine and you won money off of us like to end up being two bucks but that'd end up being a pretty awesome and fun math well I wouldn't say. We had like one good hole and then it was a pillow fight on the way in, but. Yeah, three of the four of us made it. Birdies. Although you hit iron off the tee.

So I hit wedge. I was at risk. I hit it was 360 yard hole first of all. So yeah, I hit three iron wedge to six feet. Birdie did and finger wagged in your face because it was for the wind. So I don't want to hear about you making me hitting three iron off that tee. It was completely justified. So that was fun to talk to you into going for it on 18 from

2015. You hit it in the water. That was great. I don't know why I didn't hit driver off the deck there. I don't think that was the shot. I don't know if you could have got an elephant over that water. But it's true. Yeah, when I'm still good, my new club style, especially the three of it. That's just a tourist sauce right there, blaming on the equipment changes. Yeah. When I'll follow the Rory JT DJ group first action to determine I saw, it was awesome to watch those three ball strikers out there. It wasn't their best performance. They managed to scrape it around all of them in a round even par, which I think they played a lot worse than that overall. It's not an ideal course for those three that their style of play.

Roy is just a little bit rusty. DJ maybe a bit rusty as well. And it just liked a little bit of energy in that group. Still really enjoyed watching them. The highlight came on 18 when, from the middle of the fairway, JT chucked his club after going in the water. And Shamberger and Kyle Porter were sitting right to the right of me. They go to turn to JT's face on the camera

and they show JT throwing the club. And as soon as he throws it, both Shamberger and Porter looked directly at me for my reaction, which was just like to drop my jaw. Like, did he seriously just chuck his club down the middle of the fairway? It was such a perfect moment, but you got a little backlash from people on that.

People weren't too happy with that club throw. I'm just, like, I found that group for a little bit with you guys, and I had to eject. It was, it was just bad vibes, man. It wasn't great. It was little, like, it was it was just bad vibes It wasn't great it was little yeah, I don't know It's like Barry was trying to grind and get get the new club styled in and then JT's body language was just so Negative and like I know he's just you know, I know he kind of runs hot and cold You know, that's kind of just him getting the frustration

out after a bad shot and moving on. But like, I don't know, there's, didn't seem to be a whole lot of flow in that group. No, and it's like, it's such a great, you know, pairing, but for any other course other than that one, really, and they're not like a test driver. Yeah, exactly. But the McRib, you know, obviously under the weather a little bit as far as physically.

Yeah, he was heavily taped up and clearly in a little bit of pain, but luckily, it doesn't seem to be too serious of an injury. But that was kind of the first look I got at actual play on the golf course. I didn't notice as many, I've seen the course maybe six years ago, but the changes didn't stick out to me too much other than obviously the new 12th Obviously, there's all new greens. I thought overall the course played a bit too firm on the greens and I know it's a good It's tough balance to reach and that you don't want guys to be able to throw darts at pins It does create a different unique challenge But I think it kind of contributed to the lack of drama and fireworks coming down the stretch was you couldn't if you're hitting six iron you need to be playing 15 feet at minimum short of the green and it took the absolute most

perfect shot to get a ball to run out near the hole and we just didn't see a lot of birdies and a lot of a lot of action coming really the whole weekend no one really made any moves. And it was pretty windy. Yeah it was. It was so hot there. Yeah it was pretty much like I think the was. It was so hot there. Yeah, it was pretty much like, I think the guys kind of scored a little bit on Thursday and then they kind of slowed down a little bit Friday and then Saturday, whether it ended up being better than

the forecast, was supposed to rain all day Saturday. But it was really just a, I think it was eminently fair, but maybe not all that conducive to excitement, like you said. No, it was totally fair. I don't mean to think it was unfair, but this event I think, those final few holes are built so much on dramatics, right? And it didn't end up playing out. And again, that's just one year, for the most part, this tournament is almost always dramatic. So it's not like I need to think they need to make sweeping changes. It does sound like they're going to make some changes to the 12th, though. I think their first go around with this was not that well received by the players.

I think I saw on Twitter only like 19% of the guys actually went for it on 12. JT told me before he teed off. Like he's like, I apologize in advance for number 12. And then taunted me after he laid up and made birdie which was and they kept progressively moving the tee up trying to get these guys and they go in for it a lot of guys still resisted but then again too I mean I saw a lot of guys make like half the roof I saw this week like one of the guys laid up and ended up hitting in the fairway bunker. I can every single crew. So I mean JT made birdie out of

the fairway bunker there once. So I do think that that bunker is way too wide the fairway bunker and they could they could add some more strategy to the layup and more angles. I mean I know I sound like Andy and Zach Blair right now, but I do think there's some changes to be made there like you said. Yeah. Thursday night, what do we do? I don't even remember. Was it top golf night or was it Friday? That was top golf night. Yeah, we went to top golf Jacksonville. And no, Thursday was Taco Lou, right? What's that one? That was Wednesday. That Wednesday was talking about what's Taco Lou Wednesday night and then

we kind of we kind of teetered out on Wednesday night. I think we were I got no more than four hours of sleep on any night for this Top golf went top golf. That was my first top golf experience. You were kind of hating on it going into it I couldn't be more in I think it's great I think it's like going bowling but with a much more fun sport from my perspective playing games betting drinking eating with sports on TV I don't I don't I don't get what more you could want out of it I'm all for going like an like on the NFL Sunday instead of sitting on the couch, but I don't know, it's just... I don't know, I'm kind of a house divider on top golf. I like it more than say going bowling, but at the same time, and it's getting more people out playing golf, getting golf club in their hands. So that's a good thing.

Yeah. I'm weigh in. I thought it was fun, it was hilarious, club twirls. Some people were really grinding, getting some reps in. I saw DJ really working on his alignment. No, I thought it was great. I'd love to go back. But the one thing, all right, the one thing that gets me

about theirs, it should be like a total kind of testosterone-fuel driving distance. Yeah. Bananza. And the range has always run out at like 220. Yeah, I'll give you that. That's the only thing that I think. That's probably the thing.

They just need to like some sensors and the net behind to really, even if it runs out at 220 to say how far it would have gone. But no, I'm in, I'm in. Friday, I went out in the morning, I wanted to see John Rom, I followed him for six or seven holes. He didn't play great, he kind of teetered out after that first round, but I was thoroughly impressed with the ball flight and just I don't know, I pictured him as a low ball hitter just because of how short his backswing is.

Dude launches it up in the air and just has this swagger about him and just this personality that I know, there's no room on the bandwagon left. All the stock's been purchased. But I heard he was a fat. I heard he was a fat as well. But I think he's gonna be,

not just like a superstar in golf, I think he's gonna be like a huge personality. I feel like there's so much there and he's gonna be a guy that wears his emotions right on the surface and just kind of has this natural draw to him that I don't think maybe even somebody like Sergio ever really had. I know it's kind of, I don't know what I'm exactly I'm trying to say other than I was just like drawn to him. His ball flight is so cool. Yeah.

It's not low, but it doesn't balloon either. He launches it high off the face and then it just keeps going instead of that upward peak kind of trash. There's not a whole lot of backsman on it. No. It's amazing to watch. And that club just looks like a little tight club in his hands. I mean he's just got this. I don't know. He's not fat. I've heard some people got to say, oh he needs to stay fat, to stay good. I don't think he's fat. I think he's just like... And Adidas isn't doing any favors.

Stuff that they're putting in. It was not good. In the way that it's tailored too. But yeah, then his friend was following him around too. Oh my gosh, that was, I don't know if that's kosher to say on the podcast. Go ahead. Wow. Yeah, the word on him last year, a couple of years ago, I think I set it on the podcast where one of the guys from another one of the packed 12 schools, one of the coaches

said, yeah, like we love Ron, man, he's just, he's like, everything's right with golf, he likes to drink and eat and pizza. Go ahead. There you go. Go ahead. So I don't think anything's changed on that from most definitely not from what I gathered and walking around with him But I It's been a little time on 17 the rest of the day kind of had gone back actually spent a little time in the sea suite if I'm being honest

Up in the hospitality tent kind of with a view of 17 and 16 green. And just kind of, there's nothing secret about those holes. That's my first time experiencing them in person at a tournament. And just that whole scene in vibe is just, it was awesome. Like I couldn't get enough of it. That 16th green sits so pretty against the water. And the 17th green is in person. It looks so small, even though it's, I think,

the biggest green on the golf course. And I could, I mean, we end up spending a lot of time on that hole, obviously, for good reason. And you know, it's, a lot of people talk about 17. It's really hyped, but I don't think it's overhiped at all. I think it is, honestly, the place to be. And it was a little, the tenants was even down a little bit on that hole.

The scene wasn't quite what I think it has been in years past. But, man, it was, it was awesome to spend some time watching guys hit shots out there. The people watching too. Yeah there were a ton of balls in the water. 69. Yeah it was entertaining all day long. I was amazed how many young people there were in attendance. Maybe it's just me getting older, but I feel like, when I go to the memorial, I feel like it's mostly 40-year-old people, 35, 40-year-old people.

I felt like the crowd was mostly made up of people like in their mid-20s. That has to be exactly what the tour is going for, but I just found the whole social scene to be pretty, I don't know it's pretty it was it was vibrant man it was it was it was pretty spread out to it I feel like in pet in the past it's been very concentrated around that 17th but it was basically all over the back nine I mean it was it was quite the party out there well it's cool they've

got the you know they got the food trucks and everything over on kind of between 12 T and 16 or yeah 16 fairway and all that. So they've got all the food trucks and all that hospitality over there too. So I think it's kind of become a little bit more spread out here of the last couple of years as well. But yeah, I mean, that's that's as good of a scene as there is in golf when the weather's good. It's 17 and then just like there's,

there's so many underrated shots from the back there like I like I could stand on 15 t and watch guys especially if the winds funky watch the guys shape the ball around that corner and see you know kind of what they hit there and then like that second shot into 11 even the layup like if you lay up on 11 that's like one of the hardest layups I've ever seen. There's just so many, that's the thing, it's like the whole, the entire course is just, there's just shot value to go lower.

There's no throwaway shots out there. I know that's a comment for a Pete Deic course, but there's really not, there's not like one shot. Maybe like the T-shot at six, maybe the T-shot really at nine, you can't really gain a ton of advantage unless you really want to go for it. But there's so much emphasis on every single shot out there.

There's not a hole where you can just go up and hit a three iron, four iron, and everyone's going to hit the same shot. I mean, there's strategy that goes into everyone. I mean, I follow guys that, you know, Rory's hitting driving iron on a hole, and you know, JT's hitting driver on it and, you know, it just, Rose was hitting driver on four and Ron was sitting

like a four iron or something like that. I mean, it was so much goes into getting around that course. The T-Shine on 16 is awesome to watch from behind as well. Yeah. And I, and granted, I spent a decent amount of time with the privilege of being able to go inside the ropes, but there wasn't much of a need to because almost everywhere you wanted to see golf, you could see it. It's, it wasn't swarms of people or huge crowds to the point where you couldn't get to,

I get amphitheater or a hill to watch the action. And you're never jockeying for competition. No, no. And that's just a testament to how well the course is set up and you know the lines the bathrooms were never long and the logistics of the actual event it was the best I've seen I mean I you go the memorial tournament sometimes there's there's huge beer lines or huge bathroom lines I mean I don't recall ever having to wait or be obstructed at any point, which was phenomenal. What do you have for anything else from Friday?

Because you went and followed Mackenzie Hughes? Or was that Thursday? Yeah, I think that was Thursday. I mean, he was unreal. He probably threw away a couple shots of his run when Sarsson was following him. And then I came on board, he kind of studied the ship.

But yeah, he was a big takeaway for me, and then, actually Neil, so Neil and Big Randy came into town, and I went out to the range with Neil late on Friday, and we just stood there and watched Charles Schwarzel basically like castigate himself for like half an hour it was it was incredible just purring irons but I guess it wasn't exactly a shot-shave he was looking for or what but that range is so good out there. And he's just, you know, maybe missing it by a couple feet one way and absolutely just furious with himself.

So that was like, what, that was like theater. I could have watched that all day. It's just a guy getting deep in his craft. And then... Can you explain? We need you to, I should have asked this, we need you to explain your coach or stance. Both the uh...

Both flip flops, we need both changeups. Um... So yeah, so the the the initial flip flop on going from you know, being way out on a coach here to being in on Couture was, uh, yeah, I've heard some really good stories about him of late. He sounds like he's really like exceptionally woke. I'm actually playing a practice around with Justin Hubert today. He was telling some stories from Mexico when they played together in that team event that the big cat was supposed to play in a few years back.

together in that team event that the big cat was supposed to play in the fears back. And you know, they're not really... I'm not going to blow up his spot, but I'll just say they're like... They made me think of Koochirna a whole different light, like just an exceptionally cool dude. But you know, and then, you know, just stories from other people. So that was kind of the deal there. And then I saw him on Thursday. And I was just like, yes, I kind of really liked the idea of conjure. I liked him in the macro sense, if you will. And then I saw what he was wearing on Thursday and as well as his swing.

I was just like, what have I done? I was immediately just appalled and sickened by it. So I'm back out on Couture, man. I just can't. I like the idea of culture but I can't get down with it. Like I can't actually watch him. So I will support him in theory, but in practice, you know, if I'm out of the tournament, I need to abstain. We need to get you and coach on a pod. I think that would be, we need to get the woke version of coach that we've all, that we've now all heard about.

I mean, I heard some stories here and there, but again, and you shared some of them this week as well. It's like, all right, I think Coach is like playing up this whole golly jeet. Oh yeah, he's like a method actor, you know? Yeah. So. So yeah, we need, we need to make that happen. Whatever, anybody, any of Coach's people listening to this,

we want to make it happen. We want the people to see the real Coach, but anything else from Friday um that was pretty much it I think you know it's just a picture perfect day and um that with the weather was just phenomenal the whole week yeah it was hot but I mean uh yeah 90 90 degrees but uh I don know, I think the humidity was too bad. I heard some people complain about it, but where's some sunscreen, drink some water in your Florida.

So, yeah. So, we went out to the slammer in the squire on Saturday morning. Gary Player inspired, was disgusted to see that they actually had hot dogs served at the turn, but how nice morning out there. I like that. Did some sit-ups on the first tee? Did some sit-ups. They do have a bin full of apples on the first tee for you. I'm sure that Mr. Player had something to do with that. I like that course, maybe because it was the only good round I played the whole trip, but we ducked some weather and had a good day out there standing in the Hall of Fame.

And they had a great short part 4 on the front. It was awesome. Really like that hole. Which one was that? Maybe 6. It was like a resort course. It was like 300, 305. Yeah, it was kind of like what a resort course should be.

It was more, it was much more interesting than your average resort course. And but, you know, I think the defense of the course was the, was really undulating greens. They weren't good shape. They're really good shape. Yeah. I don't like putting on bermuda,

but all four places I played this week, I thought that the greens were phenomenal. I actually kind of made it more found a little something on the greens but Your picture of the choir man, my My putting is in shambles like I grew up playing bent greens in Atlanta And then they switched pretty much every course in Atlanta to Bermuda And I still haven't recovered It's just it's just messed with me.

And then I moved up North, he went back to Ben and lost it and like started putting well again. And now I'm back in the South and I'm back up from Bermuda and it's just, it's like a horror show. It's also a Bermuda week. Just all the putting. I think so, I would imagine. But I'm all the putting, it's the chipping too.

Like, it's so much fun. That's the hard part. You can't really put put off the green because the fringe is so grabby, you know, it's not like And if you're chipping from off the green the fringe grabs way harder than the greens do and you get like really These a lot of these in between shots that you got to figure out But it's much more demanding like you have to really clip it If you know I forget to say it and put any spin on it or get any sort of check you have to really clip it, if you're just going to fit and put any spin on it or get any sort of check, you've got to really clip it. So it is, it's more demanding in that regard,

which makes you better short game wise. But yeah, it's just, you know, can't play target golf with it. So. So I went out and followed Kyle Stanley for 12 holes on Saturday afternoon. There's a bit of a backstory there. Kyle Stanley was like my original JT about five, six years ago. And saw him get to the, get to the pinnacle of the game, came like a top 40 player in the world and finished obviously. Second at the Torrey Pines and one, the waste management in 2012. And then since then, it's been a huge struggle for him. He loses, lose status on the tour to be back playing in the final group, Saturday and Sunday at the

players was pretty awesome to watch. He didn't have a lot of left in the tank come Sunday and been in that situation in a long time, which is a bit understandable. We had a blast watching him Sunday, man. He was just firing at every flag imaginable. Porter came out for a little bit and he was in all of the flags he was going after stuck at the two feet on 17 he birdied the 17th all four days only the second person ever to do that. It was great to see him. The guy still is a ball striking Savant. He's minimum one of the best 15 ball strikers on tour and when he puts even average he's going to contend on the tour so putting has been a huge struggle for him he putt it

pretty well for the week and had had some good moments just a little a little lot now ran out of rain out of whatever was left in the tank come Sunday he missed a putt on 15 footer on 18 would have tied him for second and made him a hell of a lot of money but it was great to see him get a top five finish I'm surprised he didn't like Jones here. What's that? Back then they didn't help me, not all the time. I didn't see any of them getting to 900 the first two days and then he played like three

hours. He shows up in the last cruise and it's solid. Hey, I'm back. No, he played he I wasn't at yeah, he played opposite of Rory and JT So I missed out on following him on Thursday and then he played Friday morning Do I have that backwards actually? Yeah, maybe I do I don't know but I missed him the first two days But he played great Saturday didn't score great, but he played really well in the condition like conditions a whole week

We're super tough. I mean it was just you need to go watch the guys play in those wind, that kind of conditions that, from those T-boxes to get, you watch on TV and they make it look so easy, then you go out and feel the conditions they're playing in and see the shots they're hitting. And, you know, it, 237 yard par threes and guys are striping, irons back there and making birdie. I mean, it's, it really is just, you know you know, you go play in the morning and then go watch in the afternoon and you really get the full view of how big of a difference it is between the game we play in the game. Yeah. So, um, son of a, well Saturday night, I can't go to board. Oh, we have the pro-trag.

Oh, no, that wasn't Saturday. Was that Friday night? No, yeah, that was Friday night. That was Friday night. We went to the Batchtrag. Oh, no, that wasn't sad. Was that Friday night? No, yeah, that was Friday night. That was Friday night. We went to the Batchi Grill. This is the first, the second time ever that me, you, Big Randy and Neil have ever been in the same place the same time. The first was at 2014 RBC and our relationship is entirely email text and apparently quarterly earnings calls across several different time zones. So it was good to get all four heads together and kind of brainstorm for the future.

We'll have some good stuff coming up. I don't think we're fully ready to unveil everything, but we're gonna take the top off the defense. Top's coming off the defense and there's gonna be, all I can say is there's gonna to be a lot more content going forward so Key stay tuned for that will be more details on that to follow It was good yeah, yeah, yeah, sad or they I didn't even get out to the to the tournament. I didn't go to wedding Buddy might got married up in a island. So I was up there after a golf and then

You drove back early next day. You played at Lannick Beach Country Club. Sunday morning, oh baby. Yeah, that was the side of the canceled web tour championship last year. Web doctorum championship this year, having any hurricanes or anything like that. That place was awesome. That was a beautiful Sunday morning. We absolutely loved that place.

Getting the seal of approval too from the architecture nerd Andy was, he made it even that much more enjoyable, watching him geek out over some of those holes. Yeah. Really a small piece of land and fitting 18 holes into. Some holes that are a bit, I'm sure they'd love to make longer if they could,

but just an inherently fair design with a ton of shot values out there sure they'd love to make longer if they could, but just an inherently fair design with a ton of shot values out there. No throwaway shots, as we previously mentioned on Sawgrass, but love what they do. A couple funky old of a frog, but just the finishing stretch is insanely entertaining. That's going to be, like, if there's any sort of drama or, leaderboard's tight at all coming down the stretch at the web torching and it's going to be a little bit. I say we, you live down there, but I'm thinking I'm going to be coming down there to cover that tournament

because that's going to be a blast. No, I'm almost thinking, let's just run a house on that course and you know cover that like add nauseam in that place is awesome. Is that a pro end? Can we get in that? Can we play in that too? Well you know what I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to do a little, I think Rafael Campos is in the field this week, he's trying to parlay my, you know, akin to what he did

hit the last couple of months. I'm gonna try to parlay my pro-AMS spot into an actual spot, found my game, and really, you know, try to get into web torch and internship, just, you know, basically start Monday qualifying into actual web torch events. You use the Chase Kempkex, that Chase Kempkex, exactly. start Monday qualifying into the actual Web Tour events. You use the Chase Kempkex, Chase Kempkex, and get in.

If you finish top five this week, get into the next week event. Next week's event. Yeah, we enjoyed Sunday morning. That was great. And then we went back out to the course. I followed Stanley Group, the Stanley Group, the first nine holes. Did not go well. JB Homeshot 84, Kyle Shutt 75 and then Ceeville Kim ended up winning it

in the group ahead of them. We spent most of the weekend in the 17. And I wanted to tell him that JB, but man, the number of practice swings he takes. It's not good. Oh my God, I had to inject from that group, one over to 17, and just I'm out. He almost killed someone. Who we talk about that? Yeah, that lady took it and tried too. She was taking the selfies with people on the way out. We go up and he goes way left on eight, hit a woman

in the head. And it's been like 10 minutes giving her medical attention and whatnot. But yeah, she did soak up her time in the sun. But for all we know, hopefully she's all right But I think that rattled him a little bit because yeah, he can't he shot 84 with four birdies, which is just special Amazing and then we saw on 17 for most of the afternoon just kind of waiting for something to happen and nothing really did We miss Cabrera Bayo's double sorry, Albujo. We were there

We couldn't see it. I did see his club go into the water I could see that from there and then he made He stepped up and went after the Sunday pendant made a doose on 17 Which was pretty phenomenal way to get through that stretch, but I think the most impressive thing was he rinsed his ball in 18 Still made a par. Yeah, seriously That's incredible So yeah, he got up and down from like 204, thank you, on 18. So that was cool, but yeah, I mean, it's hard to be

a little bit about the leaderboard. Well, we missed, I mean, yeah, it was not good. I'm pretty much for the Tour's Flagship event, their worst case scenario, I think. I'm sure there are a lot of people in there pulling for Polter, or at least a name player to win this event. Not that. And I typically don't enjoy when people come on armchair guys like us going and trash the winner.

That's not at all what I'm trying to say. I'm talking from their perspective their flagship event. A player that doesn't speak English to win it is probably their worst case scenario. Again, not to say at all it's he what Kim didn't deserve to win. He was phenomenal. He's scrambling. I think you only hit eight greens or something on Sunday. Yeah. Which is crazy too because I mean I think he's been working through some swing changes and stuff. The story, Randy was telling me this story from talking to Chris Baker, a web tour guy who was a dinner there and I was like, a strap and got through it. Chris Baker and Justin Hubert and Chris Baker was like, you're saying he played with

Siwook Kim. I was last year, a couple of years ago, and Siwook Kim was like, Chris, you have Swing Coach? He was like, yeah, man, I've got Swing Coach. And you're like, oh, I need Swing Coach. Like, and so I guess he got Sean Foley, he got himself Swing Coach. So he's been working through some stuff, but I think that's kind of a, maybe a misplaced narrative

because that guy's like the fact that he only hit that many greens this week in that his swing is just so damn pure. Oh god. You know like he sees it really, he's actually normally a really good ball striker. So that should portend some good finishes form. It's just short game and everything around the greens has gotten up to snuff. You know he's probably, he's got a bright future ahead of him. So.

The T-Ball he hit on 18, man. I mean, so he still met up to, with just Polter ahead of him in 18, not a birdie hole. We didn't know that Polter, you went ahead and maybe you saw Polter's shank. I missed the whole thing, which that was the end of him. I said, didn't see the actual shank, but like, we were walking up 18, and all of a sudden, like, you see Polter over on the right, and it was a little bit further up that he would have hit his

drive. I was like, you know what that would happen? Somebody was like, dude, he shanked it, and I had like five text messages, and he, you know, they're just moving everybody back and everything, and into Polter's credit, he had a really solid third shot in there. For it. Can you see how to take a drop? Oh, you haven't taken a playup? Yeah, he made bogey. You got that up and down for bogey. That's even more impressive. Supposedly Johnny was killing him on his drop too, but I missed all of this. So that's the thing when you're when you're... They take a cavalier drop? A little bit. Casey Wittenberg was out there helping him pick out a spot But that's the thing about cover I go into tournaments is fun

It's really a different experience. I love doing it But you lose perspective on what's going on with the tournament, which is fine for the most I mean this one Especially was not that dramatic or exciting, but You do it is kind of a kind of piecing it together whether the things that are happening unless you're watching from the media center Which I kind of refuse to do but So that was the thing that it was probably the best tournament we could have gone to and Just gone out watching on the course because it was it's just all about the quality of the golf being played was Exceptional

Maybe the the storyline and the narrative wasn't wasn't fantastic on the coverage and everybody was like man It's a boring tournament but I mean just you know you didn't get that sense on course and there was plenty of plenty of golf being played. This is our chance to actually see guys you know it's not necessarily you don't want to necessarily see the leaders per se you know it's it's fun to actually just watch how guys manage the ball around the course and their interaction with the 10 on 17 on Sunday to So good. I mean and it's so it's so close to that bunker to where to get it

Close you got to have to go so far right if you go right to the flag or just put an insane amount of spin on it and get it to stop on a really firm green because otherwise you're you're threading the needle in like a six to six foot birthday like a six inch window to be able to stop it right around the pen otherwise you're going to be you know 12 to 15 feet behind it. I think if that green softer that pins a lot more fun you know I mean so many guys have to play to the middle of the green because it's not worth the cost benefit. I think who was it? Utah, Akeda, am I saying it right? It went at the flag and went in between the flag and the right side of the green and his ball hit the green and up hitting the railroad tie behind the green and coming back somehow.

But in the end of 21 feet from the hole, his ball was pin seeking and it got him 20 feet. Like the bent na fit of going at that pin is so small that unless you're able to stop it right next to it, it's really not worth it. But I think in the future, we'll see the green soften up below, but this is the first year of the new firmer green. So the most impressive shot I saw

we was Lucas Glover in the shot on 17. Oh my God, that pro-trag. The most impressive shot I saw week was Lucas Glove your shot on 17. Oh my god that pro-trash. What did he hit? I don't know I would say I mean he had to have hit like an eight. It was so low I can't describe how low he hit this shot But it was like that was like I want to live by curious like that T shot In no glove it still blows me around and he puts no glove to go up on a Sunday and hit that shot with all those people watching with that Much money on the line and stick it that was that was phenomenal But again the t-shot that Kim hit on 18. He's up to and he's not gonna get caught in a head So he's gonna make five to win. I was kind of surprised to hit the ball where he did. He went up and smoked a three wood 10 feet from the water,

but it was one of the purest strikes I've ever seen, the whole crowd. You know, again, this isn't like the most popular player. The crowd was in awe. I mean, there was so much. The marshals like looking around at each other, like did you see that shot? I don't really know how to describe it other than it was like the sexiest ball flight I've ever seen on a three-wood off the team God was amazing. Yeah, well, I think that kind of goes back to the whole thing of Part of the reason that guys some of these guys aren't as well known or some of these guys aren't More popular players is they don't get shown a whole lot, right? You know, so I think it takes An instance like that or an occasion like that for people to really figure out who Seguu Kim is and Randy to all his credit he had a really good take the other day where

you know granted he's probably the most anti-rickie guy on the planet and not because he doesn't like Ricky but just because he thinks he's overexposed and overrated is, you know, Seguu Kim's God. It's back two events before the age of 22, including a players, you know, to where, you know, I think Ricky's got four wins at this point and he's 27. You know, so I think it just goes to show you how deep the game is. If you were to ask the average fan to drive in the engine, ask the average fan to see what Kim is. I mean, shit, the four-play guys didn't even know who John Romulus until February.

So the chances of them knowing that you see what Kim is are just insane. But on that level too, I was taking aack a little bit by how positive the reception was for Pooldsr on Sunday for the most part. Which is a little bit surprising because I heard otherwise from other spots in the course. But I have a problem with like, yeah, like I don't want to see Plutus succeed just because I know how shitty he is to People but like I'm not actively out there rooting against him and trying to you know and trying to mess up his vibe You know, I think that's where you draw the line. Yeah, yeah I just I have a problem with that

engulf where you know a lot of these, where people are making it uncomfortable for these guys. Like this is their workplace, this is their environment. I think that's where you draw the line. Totally agree. And some of these events kind of can turn into, bring this Ryder Cup vibe to it. And Sergio's gone through it in the past,

at the players. And yeah, I mean, I didn't see a lot of it, but definitely heard from a lot of people how people are yelling, getting the water after polter's hitting shots. Which that has kind of a place at the Ryder Cup. Maybe that's kind of where the draw line at the Ryder Cup, but a regular tour event has absolutely no place in it. It's totally different to be, you know, online, vocally rooting against someone, which is totally fine. And we all have our favorites. I'm I was sitting right there and

obviously not rooting for Polter, but, you know, to kind of, there shouldn't be any effect from the crowd on somebody's psyche on somebody's playing. And I'm not saying that cost polter at all, but there's just no place for that. And I'm polter's one of my least two favorite players on the on the entire planet. So I agree. It's the, the, the, I don't know what the day you got to give him a lot of credit. Oh yeah. The way that he's battling back here over. Yeah. What I rather see, you know, a younger player get that spot in the field and convert on those

chances. Absolutely. But for Poulter to do what he's done over the last month or so, is extremely impressive. Yeah. You know, he was in a dark place with his game, and then, you know, Harbor Town, and now this, like, he's really, he's stepped up, you know, he's kind of answered the bell. So, you got to give him some credit.

If you don't like him, you don't like him. I certainly don't like him. But at the end of the day, real recognize real. You know. Well, just buried us an hour and seven minutes into this pod. That's perfect. No one's day to day, real recognize real. Well, just bear it as an hour and seven minutes into this pod. That's perfect. No one's going to get to this point anyways.

Our praise and polter. Count me out on, and we do this every time that there's a foreign winner that doesn't have, doesn't speak very good English. Taking the transcripts of the press conference and people poking a bit of fun at the interpreters English. Steve will can understand English pretty well, and understandably in interviews he doesn't want to speak English.

I mean, it can be just imagine, you know, and poor half-wrote about this too, just imagine going into that room, fill with people that don't speak your language. Shit, I'm a native English speaker and I would have trouble speaking in the group. Right. Yeah. So I mean, and like that's everything. I think Andrew Cabarrero has been on the tour for 20 years at this point. Carlos Franco's been on the tour for, you know, between the PGA tour and the Champions tour for going on 25 years. And those guys speak great English and

they still refuse to speak if they're not with a translator. So I think I don't think you can knock anybody for that whatsoever. And the other thing too is, can you imagine going from another language to English, much less, another language that is entirely different? Structure, alphabet. Alphabet? It's not the same. Yeah, it's a huge significant change.

It's taking Hadekimatsu Yamma a long time, which is understandable. And I just think, I just saw a couple snarky things on Twitter kind of, because the interpreter said, it said, best champion, as if I'm the best champion. And I was just like, come on, man. We knew that that's not what was meant and you just can't take things that that literally but that's a small gripe I had but overall man it was just kind of a pretty

phenomenal event. Again I've been spoiled growing up to going to Memorial as a kid but this this ranks right up there with the Memorial as far as fun I've had at a tournament kind of get let's see a little bit more behind the scenes of how the sausage is made. And I've got to meet a lot of the people that run the communications or whatnot for the tour and kind of see their idea for the future on how the tour is going to go. And I just walked away, extremely encouraged with both appreciative of our relationship with them. And they're kind of having us there

and accepting the way we do things and the way they see the future, I think. Yeah, reflecting back on it, you kind of think of the tour of this, vanilla corporate entity. And really, there's real people behind it. And shout out to Jared Rice and Rhymer and Urban and Tom Alter and all those guys that kind of behind the scenes making this stuff happen.

There was no strings attached with this block cabin. They were like say whatever you want, show up, hang out. We had probably 30 cases of make ultra, uh-huh, at the park cabin, we had, you know, a bunch of great years, Vodkill, it was like, there was no strings attached, there was no asks on their part, it was like, hey man, like just show up and have a good time, and you know, the tournament will speak for itself, and that was more or less what happened. You know, and I think, you know, probably the best part for me was just being able to sit around with like KVV and Porter and Sarsen,

and balancing all those guys, and just, you know, being able to sit around the pool with the block having and just workshops and takes. It's too bad that we couldn't record that conversation because that was just one of the best golf conversations I've ever had, I think. But in no way could any part of that ever see the light of day. Yeah. Now there was some deep dives on Dr. Anthony Galea.

Oh my God, some theories. And it was pretty wild. It could spare sea theories and just all sorts theories and all sorts of woke takes. Are you going to be up to my... I liked it a lot, man. I really did enjoy it. I mean, it's kind of the one week glimpsent for players week is probably not reflected with what it's like.

I just love the vibe down there. I feel like I know more people down there than I realized I did and could get used to that weather down there and play golf a lot. So I like the area. I'd love to maybe back in the future, I think. So are you going to come up for Memorial? TBD, I kind of had to readjust my schedule with this BW Pro Am saying, you sound like a player that unexpectedly

wanted a band that has to change their schedule around. Yeah, I've got all these new exemptions and everything. And yeah, I think I may take a flyer on Memorial because I've been in a couple of times, and I've been half a dozen times now. And I want to do, I know, like I was, I had to cancel, I was supposed to take a trip out to Nebraska, play a Disney World and Valley Neal,

and a couple other courses out there. I haven't had to take a rain check on that one just because of my vacation, starting, I'm kind of trying to pace myself on my vacation days or else in the year, with my real job. But I think I definitely want to do President's Cup. I know we're talking to the tour about doing some stuff around that.

So I think President's Cup is a definite and then like we said, I want to get deep into some of the web tour events too. Kind of going back. That's what I'm so psyched about this week is there's so many guys. You look at the way the tour is structured these days and this may be my one gripe with the way things are structured is that these guys aren't getting enough opportunities. There were guys last year that ostensibly had their tour card and only got 10 to 12 starts, which I think is crap. If you have your tour card, if you've earned that, then maybe you don't play exceptionally well in the

fall series, like you shouldn't be S at well, as far as spots and tournaments go. So I kinda wanna get deep into that, you know, seeing here the next few months, I really follow the web tour as it gets ramped up, just because I think there's a lot of stories to be told out there, a lot of personalities that, you know, you look at Oli, you look at, I mean, JT was on the web tour, like all these guys that, you got a lot of guys like look at Chess and Highly and he's won a PGA Tour event in the last

three or four years, he's on the web tour, you know. So there's a lot of guys that I think there's a lot to be done there, plus it's just a little bit more convenient for me around the southeast here at the west, the next couple months. So long story short, I probably will not be at the Memorial. Got you. But all right, let's wrap it at that one. Shout out to everyone that kind of, you know, that came up to us and said, yeah, mention the pod or what not. We're going to have brand new merch in the Pro Shop. I was thinking it might be today. I thought Neil said it was going to be today. It's going gonna be sometime this week.

Brand new Polos, Visors, a whole bunch of sweet new gear. So make sure you guys swing by the Pro Shop and check that out. So, really excited about the new gear from Holderness and Born, our Polos. Yeah, if you got Polos last year, the new, like, it's like the new and improved material.

It's like kind of the same, but the cut is slightly different and like there was some slight improvements as far as just the material is absolutely unreal. So I don't think I've ever worn a more comfortable pull-off shirt. That's why we work with those guys. So I'm pumped. Yeah man, and then appreciate you making the trip over too. That was a long trip for you.

It was, but it was worth it. It was great to meet a bunch of people, see everyone and just kind of, just yeah, just experience in person rather than via Twitter. It's a lot more fun in person, but I think in the future, our coverage of the actual event will, events will be better just right.

You know, this was kind of a trial run at this kind of thing, but looking forward to doing a lot more of that in the future. So I only got a couple of weeks left here in Europe. So it's gonna get a lot more real once I'm back home. So all right, hour 15. Let's get a stop big, polite and start real. Mad real. Tron, good luck this week in the base.

Nice dude. Can you live tweeted? Are you allowed to be on your phone during it? I don't know. We'll see. I'm sure there's some wiggle room there. We're going with hubs today and play a little practice around and then kind of go from there.

But yeah, I'm going to try to get as much footage as possible, make this interactive as possible. So I'm pumped. But. All right, man. Safe drive, the rest. Awesome. A punch, but... Alright man, safe drive, the rest of the way. Thanks dude! Thanks for tuning in and we'll catch up soon. Alright, talk soon. Cheers.

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