No Such Thing As A Fish - 1. Little Fish: Steam Exploded Donkey Bone Powder

Episode Date: November 2, 2025

Dan, James and Andy discuss YOUR facts, in a brand new weekly show. This week's subjects include hamburgers, space, staircases and Berlin.  We also meet our first four Fact Custodians (spoiler: you've met them a lot in the past).

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doing this every Monday. So if you want to join and be part of this extra special Monday bonus episode, just send in your best facts and we'll be reading them out each week. So let's get into it. I'm sat here with James Harkin and Andrew Hunter Murray. Hello. And in no particular order, here we go. This is from Dav Lee. It's about an executive leaving a job at McDonald's UK. after 18 months in post. Okay. And the reason it's a great fact is because her name is Zoe Hamburger.

In fact, she was promoted within the McDonald's trucker. She's gone off to run McDonald's Netherlands. She said, Hamburger has been my name my entire life. So as you can imagine, it has always made people do a bit of a double take. I've never heard of anyone else with that.

I know. There's a comedian called Neil Hamburger. Is it his real name? That feels like it's not, no. It's not his real name at all. It's not called Neil. I found a report on this from the Metro, which I just want to read a line from it.

Despite her name being the beefy snack item. That is the best thing about journalism, isn't it? There's a name for it, I think. Second mentions. Second mentions where it's like a duck cross the road, the waddling. Waterfowl. Despite her name being the beefy snack item,

she said her favorite menu McDonald's item is the double cheeseburger. Believe it or not, I do believe it. I absolutely believe it. Anyway, yeah. Oh, that's really good. I know. So I guess her relatives or her ancestors came from Hamburg. Exactly.

That's what it is. And we don't really have names like it, do we? We don't have sort of like Tony Scouser. Do we? Oh, we do. Yeah. No, we absolutely do. Like Michael Bolton.

Oh, yeah. But that's not, because his real name is Bolton. he changed his name Michael Bolton's real name is Michael Bolton Is it? Yeah There's been a news bulletin Is that it?

Yeah, he changed it But there are many people Whose surnames is the name of a town Yes Jack London Sydney Sweeney Sweeney's not a place No, but Sydney is

And you can put it in Yeah, but it's a first Her relatives were in that 1970s cop show I'm struggling to think of many UK place name. Jack London, you're absolutely right. The Earl of Bristol. Of course.

I'm just actually struggling to think of place names at the moment, but 100% there are some surnames where it's where you came from. Like someone English, Harris English, the golfer, for instance. Sarah Brighton. She's a person. Ah, okay. Isn't she? Sarah Brightman?

Okay. Okay, Dan. keep going throughout the episode and maybe we'll get one. Brooklyn Beckham. Oh God. Anyway, just there's a little extra report on this

from BM magazine which actually stands for Business Matters and not, as I thought, bowel movement. You get that. You get that on charts. Hospital charts and things will say BM, 3pm or whatever.

It's a very regular publication that one, isn't it? Really worrying if you haven't had an issue for two or three days of BM magazine. And you need to buy prunes, prunes, prunes quarterly. But just they found a lovely extra detail, which is just hamburger has been succeeded as UK chief restaurant officer by Patrick Gerber, who takes over responsibility for restaurant operations across the country.

It is good that Gerber has no responsibility for the operations in France, as his surname in French means to vomit or to puke in a slang context. Interesting. How good is that? That's BM magazine delivering the goods there. That's really good. Here's another thing about Gerber, I think. I might have to cut this because I might be wrong.

But I think it's a baby food company, Gerber, or an old one. They might not be around anymore. Right. And there was a famous thing where they issued some baby food in a country where everyone in that country, if you ever saw a picture on a packet of food, you would think that's what's inside the food. And the baby food had a picture of a baby on it. And everyone in the country thought that this baby. food was actually food made of babies.

That's very good. I think. Years ago, I bought a bike for my son for Christmas and it had a picture of a baby riding the bike on the front and on the box it did say baby not included. No. Yeah. It's funny. Should we move on to our next back? James, you got something?

Okay, this one is from Wayne Hoyt. H-O-I-T, it looks like, although it looks like a misspelling of Holt. No, it's Hoyt. Is it Hoyt? I see it in the inbox. Some like it Hoyt. Wayne says, spiral staircases are not. not spirals. Okay.

Oh, point of information. Yeah. Surely they are. Well, he says that although they are called spiral, they are actually helical. They are helixes. A real spiral twists with an increasing or decreasing radius. For example, a spiral on, or he doesn't say this, but for instance, on a snail shell, you know? Oh.

Kind of goes out like that. But a staircase always has the same radius. Like, it's not getting wider as you go up. Is it? It's always going to be about the same width at the bottom as it is at the top. Right, yes. And if you, a helix is basically something, a line which you draw around a cylinder. Right.

And he says, I guess they're called spiral because unfortunately most people have no idea what are helixes. Well, I think people know what, like double helix. Famers? Yeah. From DNA fame. So are there any actually spiral staircases where the building gets wider and wider and wider? Here's the interesting or probably not very interesting point. Some people say that a helix is a type of spiral.

Other people say, no, they're completely different things. And there doesn't seem to be an international body that decides on what a spiral of a helix is. Wow. I think we have run this on QI actually, maybe in the H series. I think we might have done it under helixes. But yeah, we have discussed it before and almost come to blows. in the QI office. James, you're the mathematician.

I think out of the three of us, you get to make the call. I actually, you know at QI, we have a much better mathematician than I am, who's Will Bowen. And I think he landed on the side of a helix and spiral being different. So I think that's why we ran with it. Nice. But the other thing that we found when we were researching that was a place called Chateau du Chameau in France, and they have a double helix staircase. Okay, so it's two helixes.

two separate staircases, and what that means is you can go up one staircase while someone else is coming down the other staircase. So you don't use up any more space because it's still on the same cylinder, but actually two people can go. And according to the people who run that house, that stately home, it was designed by Leonardo Da Vinci, although we're not quite sure if it was. Wouldn't it be great if you met the lovely of your life while you were going down and she was coming up?

You don't meet her. Oh, you would never... That's the point about this. That's the whole point of the staircase is, isn't it? There's one helix going up and another one coming down. You'd never meet. You'd never meet. You'd wake up.

It was all a dream, your whole life, den, your lovely wife and your family. Oh, my God. They're not tunnels, though. You can see each other going down the steps and going up. No, you can't. You can't. There was actually one. Remember there was some Duke or something who had a lot of tunnels made in his house

so that he never saw his staff? Yes. I remember that. He was nicknamed the Tunneling Duke, which is a good, it's a good and a bad nickname, isn't it? I've always wanted to go to Cambridge. There's a very specific pub that serves a double helix beer or ale. Oh, is it a spread eagle? Yeah, it must be.

Because it's where the two of them came in. Watson and Crick announced that they'd found the secret to life. Imagine walking into a pub. Imagine I walk into the Bowman Arms in Bolton. And I just walk in and I go, I've discovered the secret of life. Yeah. People would, I mean, they give me short shrift anyway in that pub. Also, it's pronounced bolleton, by the way.

Should we move on to another fact? All right. This comes from Charlie Wakefield. Can I just say Wakefield in Yorkshire? Well, there we go. Great. There we go. Oh, Dan, that was right there for you.

And James snuck in there and got it. I am a fellow TV person who has been working in development for over a decade, so I've discovered hundreds of fish-worthy facts, but there's one that has always stayed with me. Astronauts in space still get morning wood. sadly I found this years and years ago in a paper by NASA, I think but clearly I was a much better researcher back in the day because I've been unable to find

it again We all have that problem as we go That's NASA suppressing the truth, isn't it? Well no, I mean there is stuff that you can see out there. They've done this is an interesting thing that they actually have to work on because we're planning voyages to Mars and so on and what does it

do to you? Hang on, don't astronauts go through 17 mornings a day? Because you're spinning around the world really fast. Isn't that? That's like a good point. Yeah. You have to quickly hide. Yeah.

So basically there's lots of things that they're looking into. For example, cosmic rays. What happens to your body in microgravity? So when you're in the ISS, from what I've been reading, it says that the blood will often travel sort of to where your chest area is. So you don't have much blood down in that area to begin with. So would you be getting a sort of random morning wood? is the question.

Because we don't know if anyone's had sex up there. We don't know if anyone has had a little fiddle up there. We don't know what's been going on up there. There is a rumor that a couple went up there, isn't there? Yeah, exactly. But the thing is, like, you don't get an erection when your penis is the lowest part of your body. It's not like the blood rushes down there with no vasculatory system to push it around.

Yeah. You know, it's like gravity shouldn't make that much of a difference, I see. I don't think they think it's a massive influence, but they think it has some influence. Is that why your penis is so far down? Do you think as we evolve, our penis is going to get lower and lower and lower? Just to use the gravity to get the blood down there. Absolutely. Yeah, we end up being one of our toes.

So I was trying to find if there was any evidence of an astronaut having mentioned this, and I did manage to find one. Astronaut Mike Mullane in 2014 in an interview with men's health said, a couple of times, I would wake up from sleep periods, and I had a boner that could have drilled through kryptonite. Wow. That's a NASA astronaut. Plot of Superman far, isn't it? Very confident astronauts, aren't they? That's stunning. Yeah. So that's the one, that's the one. Maybe that's what you read, Charlie Wakefield. It's like basically Superman is in a cage, which is made of kryptonite. I think that even happens in the latest one. Oh, really? That came out this year. But

what you need is this guy to drill through the kryptonite cage to free him. Yeah. Mike Mullane, the human boar. Which is better than the human bar nickname that I have. Howdy, pardoner? Next time you get chicken at McDonald's, you won't have to choose between the creamy flavors of ranch

and the tangy kick of Buffalo any longer. This time, enjoy all the flavors you love all at once. Try a new food. creamy and tangy buffalo ranch sauce. I participate in McDonald's for limited time. I promise you this is a coincidence, but my next one is by Lindy Hardstaff. And Lindy says, my fact is you can hear

a refleesia flower bloom before you can smell it. So you know the reflezier is the big corpse flower that you get in Southeast Asia and it kind of flowers once every few years, maybe? But apparently, the petals are so big and thick and leathery that each one makes an audible

thwack noise as they crack open and Lindy Hardstaff discovered this when doing an overnight shift monitoring a blooming event at the Bogor not Bogna I assume Bogor Botanic Gardens in 2012 I've never heard of Bogar that's so cool I was nearly

I nearly got to see one of those flowers blooming when we were on tour in Melbourne there was a thing there was a museum and it was about a two-hour drive out of Melbourne, I think, and it had one on display, one of these amazing corpse flowers that opens up once every 10 years or whatever it is, and it was just flowering that day.

How long did you miss it by? Oh, I could have got to it. Oh, so you, okay. I comfortably could have got to it, I chose not to. Oh, wow. I was busy. I was in Melbourne with my friend. That reminds me of the world laziness championships

that I was supposed to go to this year and decided that the weather wasn't very good, so I'd go the next day, And when I got there, it had finished. Everyone was stood up by the time you got there. Yeah. Are you being serious? I can't tell if you.

That really happened. That really happened. Yeah, yeah. It's who could lay down the longest. Is this Montenegro, right? It's in Montenegro. It's called the World Lazy Citizen Competition. And I missed the end of it because I couldn't be bothered leaving, but the weather was bad.

Yeah. That's so good. In a weird way, I feel like you should have won the competition. I feel like I'm going to write to the organizers and ask for a special award. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good idea.

Someone traveled all the way over from the UK, only to miss it, out of laziness. Well, I'm quite annoyed because I did email them saying, can I come along? And they said yes. And I told them what day I'd come. And they didn't email me to say it had finished. What were you expecting, James? What were you expecting from the world laziness people? It was a four-hour drive into the mountains. I couldn't be bothered to reply. That's all. Didn't you also go to a church once that you drove out of your way? You forced Polina to come with you to. I went, there are two rugby union themed churches in France. And I'd been to

one of them and the other one was only a three-and-a-half-hour drive away. And when we got there, it was closed. Yeah, unbelievable. A question. A rugby union themed church. What's that? It's a small chapel where people who are rugby union fans can go and they put like some of their shirts there and pray for their team to do well.

Oh, okay. And also actually one of the stained glass windows is themed on rugby union as well. And the priest throws the communion wave of backwards into your mouth. Very good. Yep. And when you go and get the way for everyone puts their head in between the person in front slags. And you haven't been back, presumably. No, I can't imagine I ever will.

It's such a shame. I had that same experience. I went down to Yovil Junction train station to go see a haunted buffet. Supposedly the sausages levitate and so on. I did. And I went on a Sunday. It was my only chance. And I had to explain to Fenella and the kids.

Like, Daddy's got to go off. I've got to do this thing. It's a long journey. I was in London. got there. London de Yovil. Did you know where Yovil was at the time? Oh, I did have a brief look at it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a distance. It's a distance. Anyway, cafe was shut. Couldn't get in. Look through the windows. Couldn't see anything. You imagine if you'd look through the windows only to see a levitating sausage. You couldn't get any further towards it.

Yeah, maybe that would have been worse. Yeah. No. Sausages weren't even out. Too levitate. Okay. Andy. Okay.

Here's one from David Morgan from Sydney. This is about Sir. Henry Parks, premier of New South Wales in the 19th century. Australia's father of Federation, who got the ball rolling on the six British colonies in Australia joining together to form a country. So he campaigned for this. Anyway, that's sort of personal...

That's the business end of his life. But David Morgan is writing to tell us that he was also in the Australian parlance, a mad keen router. Oh, no. He was married three times, fathering 12 children with the first lady part. and after a 22-year gap, five more with the second Lady Parks. 17 children.

17! The first three were born out of wedlock while the first Lady Parks was still alive. She had been his housemaid. At dinner in the 1890s, when Parks was nearly 80, the editor of the Sydney Morning Herald innocently remarked, These oysters are good. Parks replied, I don't need these adventitious aids.

Lady Parks and I, until quite recently, have been in the habit of having connections 17 or 18 times every night, and we now have connection 10 or 11. Times. Parks and Recreation. Superb. Kernan was very quiet, the editor for the rest of the dinner. Parks later made a splendid speech full of elevated thought and moving language. There you go.

I've got to say all cultures around the world, I completely appreciate, and I think people should be able to do whatever they want, wherever they're from, and I would never take the piss out of anyone or say that anyone around the world is wrong in any way for what they do, but the word root to mean have sex does not sit well with me. Oh, really? Interesting. Well, maybe you'd like what Parks did as his first job, because I did a little bit of extra digging on him. He was born in Warwickshire, actually, in England, and his first job was as a bone turner. Which is? Kind of someone who, I think, shizzles and chips and shapes bone and ivory. Oh. I think it's that. Right. Did you use root in UK to mean sex? No, that would not mean

that. It would not mean it here. Okay, so... A router is something you use to connect to the internet. Yes. Or Joe Roots, the English cricketer. Right. Absolutely. Okay, so... Who has never scored a century in Australia at time of recording. He's busy, isn't he? Probably so many misunderstandings

whenever he says his name anywhere. Yeah. James, when we're good at you? James, yes, that's the name of the person who wrote in. They didn't put their surname, just James. And they wrote long-time listener, first-time caller. Hopefully you haven't heard this fact before. The last piece of Nazi architecture in Berlin is a 12,650 ton concrete cylinder. Nice.

Okay, so this is the Schweurblastung Skorpe, meaning heavy load-exerting body. And it was used to test whether the ground would be strong enough for all the amazing projects that they wanted to build in Berlin. so they wanted to do like a big arch like to celebrate their glorious victory in World War II and they thought we can only do this arch if we have strong enough ground so they built this big cylinder that was really really heavy to see if it would

the ground was strong enough to hold it and it turns out that Berlin is a massive swamp and really you couldn't put a big arch there but then they also couldn't move it because it was too big so it's still there. I mean that's bad planning in two ways. Firstly, you should know that you're on a swamp. And secondly, you should not put anything in without having a plan to take it out again.

I think nobody accuses the Nazis of being 100% in their plans. They've had one or two flubs in their time. Yeah, true. Attack in Russia. But yeah. And the thing is that they've never been able to get rid of it because it's so big, but it's also next to a lot of train tracks and apartment buildings, so they can't blow it up.

Oh, wow. So it's kind of just stuck there as a memory. 12,000 tonne cylinder. 12,650 tons concrete cylinder. That feels big. I think it's empty on the inside because I think you can go and visit it and have a look inside. I should do a podcast there. Do you think the acoustics will be...

That's going to be echoing. Yes, that's the reason why we shouldn't go and do a podcast in the last piece of Nazi architecture. Obviously, obviously reasons of taste. Obviously reasons of taste. Do you remember the last time we played? Well, the only time we played Berlin was in that big hall. And it was used as a rock and roll hall. And they hadn't had anyone do a speaking gig in there.

So all the chairs were set up and I was talking to the guy and saying, so you don't do what this, like we're a new concept here as a speaking thing as opposed to a gig. And he went, yeah. And I said, so when's the last time you had someone do a talk here? and he went gerbils I remember that we followed gerbils

yeah I love that why is it so silent I don't love that sorry I love that gosh I've got one last one okay yeah

this is from Josh Smith who I don't know why I picked this as my last fact to read out because it's quite abstruse it's about steam exploded donkey bone powder oh this is just a mad thing

that you can make donkeys into. Basically, donkey bone is about a tenth of the donkey, but most people don't use it for anything, right? Okay. A tenth of a donkey is bone. Really? Yeah. That's a pretty amazing fact, and it's right. It's about 15% if they're in space and it's not on me. How much of us are bone? Oh, probably about 10%. Really? Well, I don't know. Amazing. I don't know. You're right. Yeah, but I mean, maybe they've got thick, thick bones. I feel like mine's less than 10%. No. Do you? Bone. I do think that, yeah. Maybe a bit, maybe a bit less.

Let's round up my weight to 100 kilos. I don't weigh 100 kilos, but let's round it up. If I take all my bones out, are they going to be too heavy to take as hand luggage on Ryanair? Oh, that is a very, let's test it out. I think we have to hear. Don't write in, I don't know what the level of Ryanair. Welcome to Mythbusters. Well, we are going, we haven't checked stuff, but James has taken out almost all his bones.

And now we're at Gatwick. James's will reading is going to. be amazing. And my bones, I leave two. Along with two tickets to Lanzarotti. To visit the other Rugby Union-based chapel in France. So ends the will of the human boar.

So basically, anyway, yeah, 10% of donkey is bone. And it's good stuff. There's a lot of good stuff in there, nutritious. But it's very hard to get to because it's very dense, very strong. There's a donkey around there. There's a donkey. All sorts of. reasons.

This is why you were fired as a taskmaster challenge rider. Deep on this donkey. And you've got 30 minutes to do it. But basically to use it, you know, if you are going to kill an animal, you may as well use absolutely everything in it. Oh, yeah. You know, it's an important thing to do. You need to crush it to a powder.

And one thing you can do is do steam explosion, where you basically use high pressure steam to kind of reduce it to a powder. you sort of blast it. This is a Chinese study because China gets through a lot of donkeys as I think we did in a podcast a few months ago,

didn't we? Yeah, they're running out. Right, they're running out. In fact, they're using up everyone else's donkeys and they're running out of them. This is a problem. Wow.

Not helped by the use of steam exploded donkey bone powder, but it turns out that when you bake cookies using steam exploded donkey bone powder instead of flour, they're rated very highly by participants. Like, people tasting these cookies, which are one-third donkey bone powder instead of flour,

say, oh, that's delicious. Really? Yeah. And does it maybe contain, like, bone marrow stuff? So it might be okay for you. It might, I mean, it sounds like, in terms of flavor, odor, and overall acceptability. This was a Chinese study, so it might be culturally specific. But it turns out that might be what you're missing in.

Your next bake is a little bit of the old steam exploded donkey bone powder. Give that a miss, I think. Okay. Thanks, though. Yeah. Okay. Before we wrap up this first episode of Little Fit. We are now going to do something that is going to be appearing at the end of every single episode,

which is, if you were part of the friend of the podcast here on Club Fish, as part of your membership, you are going to become the custodian of one of the facts, one of the headline facts from the 600 plus episodes of no such thing as a fish. And we will give you a shout out to let you know what your fact is, and we'll also be sending you a digital certificate to acknowledge it in writing forever on. You can put it on the wall, you can do whatever you want. And this is an honour that cannot be stripped away, right? This isn't like a...

I don't know. I think if you do something really bad, like really, really bad, if you're a knight of the realm and you do something really awful, they can take it off you. Okay. This digital certificate is now your moral compass. You need to behave like a person with a digital certificate would, which is a good person, a good human. I don't want the police, like, knocking down someone's door because they've done. done some terrible deed and the first thing the police see on the wall is a custodian of

episode 453 of no six things of fish. That's the last thing we need. Because then they'll ask us questions and they'll see how does this go all the way to the top of no such thing as a fish. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should say as well a little bit of the theory behind it which is that these facts, they're endangered, some of them. They need support. Many of them are true. Some of them. Yep. All of Dan's, James and Anna's are true. Mine are occasionally like the largest cattle in Hamburg is called Caroline, which turns out not to be a cattle. Imagine if the police are trying to arrest a murderer, they bang down the door, they open the door, they look on the wall, they go, oh, did you know that the largest finicular railway in Swaziland is called Derek? And then while they're doing that, someone's run away.

Okay, so use us as a decoy. Do what you want with it. It's a lovely certificate. And so, yeah, why don't we, because we haven't actually launched the tiers yet, why not give ourselves an honorary fact each that we will be the custodians of? And we should say, please join Clubfish at the Friend of the podcast tier, because if nobody has joined a friend of the podcast, we're going to have to do that again. And we're going to look really stupid.

Okay, so the way we're going to do it is we're going to be allocating members in sequence, in a very particular order. So the first fact is now going to be allocated. to Mr. James Harkin. Thank you. James, please read us your fact. Sorry, first I'd like to say a few words. I have an alibi for that night on the third.

Okay, so I am a custodian of fact number one in episode number one of no such things are fish, which was that the large hadron collider had to be turned off because a bird dropped a bit of baguette into it. Stunning. And what did I eat just before we came on air today? A bird. Large had drawn So yeah I'm really honoured

to be the custodian of that I promise to look after it well How does it feel? It feels good because it's a fact that can't be proven wrong because it's a historical fact It's happened Unless someone goes back in time

Of course But you would need some sort of enormous Physical Laboratory to go back in time It's impossible Okay so that's James Congratulations, James. Thank you. That's a very exciting fact.

And your digital certificate is on its way. All right. So Anna's not with us today, but obviously Anna is getting her own fact. And the second fact of the show was her fact. So for Anna, we will be allocating what is almost the classic fact of no such thing as a fish. Weird that it's the second one that we think is a classic. Almost like the first one was a bit rubbish. It's like the Star Wars films in that respect.

Yeah. Carry on. custodian of that first fact. So this was Anna's fact. For the last month of his life, US President James Garfield ate everything through his anus. What a fact. Congratulations, Anna. What a fact. Your digital certificate will be on its way. Dan, what about you? Are you going to get a fact from this? I am going to get a fact. But if we're going to go sequential, we should assign each of our own facts, I think, for this first episode to each other. So Andy, you're next. your fact comes from

James Harkin. Yeah. Didn't manage to get a fact into the episode one of no such thing as a fish. Try for best, but James... You're welcome. James just had two good facts. I think it's because it was a Franken show, right? It wasn't deliberate. It wasn't deliberate.

It wasn't deliberate, right? Hard to say. So yeah, so it's a good point. Like, we made a few shows and then in the edit, we edited again, it was a pilot. Like that, episode was never meant to go out. I'll happily take one of James's facts. All right. So what is it? It's that in 2013, six people in the USA named their child mushroom. Very nice. Good fact. I wouldn't want to be associated with that fact anymore. Exactly. Yeah. Did you hate mushrooms as

much then as you did as you do now? It's been a whole life thing. Right. Wow. From as young as I remember being, I did not like mushrooms. Maybe if you'd been named mushroom, you wouldn't now have that phobia. I probably would hate it more because I can imagine the bullying I would have had a number of people you're a fun guy. Which you are. Yeah, but I feel like I would have become less and less fun over the years as people made that joke to me.

That's true. Yeah, yeah, that's understandable. Yeah, okay. Well, those six people in the USA who are named Mushroom will now be 12. Oh, yeah. Years old, I mean,

they won't have doubled in size. They may reproduce with sports, we don't know. That's actually the age that a lot of people who come to our shows who are like kids. That's when they stand. start listening usually around 12, isn't it?

Yeah. Well, if you're in the USA and you are named Mushroom and you were born in 2013, do write in to podcast at QI.com. I wonder if it's gone up, you know, over the years. Oh, yeah, it'll be a popular name by now. You think so? Yeah, yeah. It's a nice popular name in the States soon.

Okay, well, there you go, Andy. Thank you very much. You're official custodian. I love it. The Mushroom fact. Probably in a few years, there will be lots of people named Mushroom after the cloud. Oh, God. All right, should we assign mine?

So my fact, this was the fourth fact of the very first episode, is that Philippa Langley, who found Richard III's bones, was an amateur, but nonetheless saw him at a car park beneath a huge R, and the bones were beneath there. Could have done with an edit. Yeah. Apologies for anyone who is custodian of Dan's facts, because we won't be able to fit them on the certificate. I think at the time when I was typing up these episodes, I hadn't yet found my scrupulous

methodology of writing the headline facts up in a really concise way. I don't think I would have said it like that. I think you might have said it like that. Well, okay, well, that's that's how it goes. We're going to be doing this every week. So join Friend of the Podcast. You will become the official custodian of one of our facts. And as of next week, we'll be going from episode two.

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