No Such Thing As A Fish - 216: No Such Thing As A Lobster War

Episode Date: May 11, 2018

Live from Perth, Dan, James, Anna and Andy discuss the most annoying man in history, the regretful inventor of the Australian labradoodle, and how lobsters nearly started a war.

Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast this week coming to you live from Perth, Australia. My name is Dan Schreiber, and I am sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Andrew Hunter Murray, James Harkin, and once again we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days, and in no particular order, here we go, starting with you, Chazinski. Yeah, my fact this week is that in the 1960s, Brazil and France almost went to war with each other over whether lobsters crawl or swim. What a just war it would have been.

Who side are you on? Who side are you on? I think they crawl. Oh, I think they swim. Yeah, I will see you on the battlefield. I assume they do both, right? The classic Switzerland in the corner. No, so it is a problem that they do both, because this is the fact that in 1961 a French fisherman

found that the water off the coast of Brazil was full of lobsters, and they wanted to fish them so that they could get money from selling the lobsters, and so they started fishing them, but Brazil claimed exclusive rights to sea creatures that were walking along the continental shelf within a certain diameter or radius of Brazil, so if creatures were walking in that area, then Brazil had a right to them and no one else did, but if they were swimming in that area, then they did not, and so this huge argument came forward about whether they were walking or swimming, and the French said that they were swimming, so they were open to anyone, because lobsters do sometimes swim, and so they said we're allowed to fish for

these lobsters. The Brazilians said they crawled. There was actually, I think there was a moment where the Brazilian admiral of the Brazilian navy said that if you're saying that lobsters swim, you're also saying that a kangaroo would be considered a bird when it hops. That is fighting talk. But it really came to blows, so there was this huge debate, and eventually Brazil said, France, can you please go away?

These things are crawling, and France refused and had a destroyer ship accompany their lobster boats, a warship, and in response, Brazil mobilized its warships, including an aircraft carrier, and then both of these sides are ready for battle, and this lasted for two years. They were sitting there with the battleships poised, ready to fight each other over whether lobsters crawled or swim, and then eventually some laws of the sea were put into force saying, look guys, chill the fuck out. Put the official wording on the law.

It was, yeah. And yeah, war didn't happen, and rights were granted to Brazil because of a fishing act, and it was okay, but we were pretty close guys. Wow. Yeah. It seems to me that countries are always going to war over fish, or things living in the sea. So there's been a turbot war between Canada and Spain, a crab war between North and South

Korea. There was an oyster war between Maryland, the state, versus pirates. Cool. Oh. There was a mackerel war between UK and Iceland, a prawn war between India and Sri Lanka, a squid war between the UK and Argentina, a scallop conflict between the UK and France, a catfish dispute between the US and Vietnam, and a spat between Latvia and Russia. Wow.

That's amazing. God, fish are real troublemakers, aren't they? So on lobsters, which I believe this was about, so the Caribbean, so the thing that this was originally about, actually, was a Caribbean spiny lobster, which was a kind of rock lobster, but this is a kind of lobster that cues. So a very British brand of lobster, but when they migrate, they form orderly single file cues. So they migrate seasonally because they want to get away from cold water, and these, you

know, these are the most precious lobsters on that coastline, and yeah, they cling to each other and form an orderly cue and move a single file. Each rest is antennae over the sort of arse of the lobster in front, and they move like a conga. That's so exciting. It's a lobster conga. Yeah. I read that in North America, back when the European settlers first went there for the

first time, there was so much lobster in the water that they would wash up onto the shore in piles two feet high, like a tsunami, a tiny tsunami of lobster, tiny and delicious. I've got a fact about releasing it, putting lobsters into the sea, which is a thing that sometimes people do. So this was in Britain in 2017, two Buddhists were fined £15,000 for releasing 700 live lobsters and crabs into the sea of Brighton, and they did it as a life release ceremony, which is a thing you might want to do if you're a Buddhist, and unfortunately they weren't native and they had the potential to destroy ecosystems, and the government had to try

and catch them again, only 323 were recovered, so there are still about 400 out there. This is a real problem though, this is happening in Australia as well, genuinely, and in America, so it's the Fangsheng ceremony, it's a Buddhist ceremony which is about returning life to where it's meant to be, but it's always returning non-native creatures to an unfamiliar habitat, and they always wipe out local ecosystems, so it happens with lobsters in Australia and in China, America. Do Buddhists have the equivalent of a confession booth that they go into? Forgive me, monk, father, I don't know what it would be, Lama, for I've sinned, I tried

to save a life, but I've destroyed an entire ecosystem, that's 12 reincarnations that you've been deducted. You know Peter, the people for the ethical treatment of animals, we've discussed him a few times, and they kind of suggest that people might want to do this thing as well, which they call lobster liberation, and they have posters, they put posters up saying, being boiled hurts, lobster liberation, but unfortunately the lobster in their picture is bright red, which means it's already been cooked. Oh no.

Lobsters do have a very, very tough time, so whenever they molt, obviously they have to get rid of their old shell to grow larger, but they have to lose half their claw weight, because otherwise the claw is too big to fit out of the old shell, and the claw muscles are so massive, because obviously that's what lobsters are like, but they've got very slim wrists, so they have to rip the claw, basically when they try to molt, they have to rip out the lining of their throat, their stomach, and their anus, which is, I think that's the trifecta of things you don't want to rip out. Yes.

What is the least classy use of the word trifecta? Yeah, but they are, they're weird aren't they? I was reading on National Geographic that they, so okay, their brain is located in their throat, their nervous system in their abdomen, their teeth in their stomach, their kidneys in their head, they hear through their legs, and they taste with their feet, they're all over the shop. So the blood are being very much in the head, means that they urinate out of their faces, and urinating is very important to lobsters, and especially female lobsters, because it's

quite sexy, so the way that female lobsters seduce male lobsters is that they urinate out of their face into the male lobster's den. That is sexy. Oh, you wouldn't want, imagine your leather box in the morning. Oh no, it's Valentine's Day. Well, it's very attractive in some circles, but yeah, the females urinate in the male dens until the male is attracted enough to the urine, or things, I'm really into getting rid of this urine somehow, so he invites the female in, and then immediately she gets naked,

so as soon as she's been invited in, she sheds all of her shell, and also, I think this is really insulting. The other thing that the female sheds, once she gets into a lobster's den, is the pouch where she had banked the sperm from the prior mate. I'll just leave this by the door. Can she put back her shell on if he's not interested? No. No.

You can't rip out the lining of your throat, stomach, and an anus, and then think, I've missed those. I've misread those sides. I'll just get my pouches for a movie on my way. Hey, we need to move on to our next fact, surely. I think we should honestly give a shout out to the amazing lobsters, which are the largest freshwater invertebrates on earth, which is the Tasmanian lobster, and yeah, they're incredible, so they're the size of kind of a normal sized dog, and they're extremely

strong. But Anna, dogs come in lots of different sizes. That's one of the main things about dogs. They're like a coca-spaniel. Wow. Wow. They are extremely big. They live to be 60 years old, at least, and they can break human bones, so with their

claws, or they can crush beer bottles, and yeah, they're just incredible, and they can't breed until they're 14 years old, which we laugh at, but we're humans. That's literally the same as humans, but... Breed. I thought that when the lobster gets to 14, it goes... That's better. Fittingly, it does make that noise, but it's a completely different reason. OK, it is time for fact number two, and that is James.

OK, my fact this week is that in 1350, there was a man called William Stand-Up Right, and he annoyed everyone else in his village so much that every single one of them moved away. Wow. He sounds awesome, doesn't he? Do we know anything about what he did? Well, so the thing is, this comes from the parish roles in England, so it's where, if you're a historian, it's a really good place to get all the really small things that happen

in the villages, and in this one, in particular, it says, the coroner testifies that William Stand-Up Right is so quarrelsome and rancorous that none of the Lord's tenants can bear to live in the village because of him, and he has caused the village to be deserted. And then by 1356, so that's six years later, he had also left the village, presumably because he had no one left to argue with. That's amazing. And that's all we know about him, like, in a lot of these things, these kind of parish things, all you see is a very, very tiny snapshot of people's lives.

Right. It's amazing. So, for instance, in 1328, John Francy claimed two shillings in damages because Alice Devaney's had accused his wife of wearing her short jacket before Easter. Wow. Whoa. Shut my mouth. In 1347, a man called Roger Sweatin' Bed was accused of fornication with Laetitia bat.

Wow. Roger Sweatin' Bed. Sweatin' Bed, Stand-Up Right, and shut-in mouth, was that the third one? This is, though, it's so fun reading through these old records, so there's actually a document called The Assize of Neusances, and I really recommend it, and it's what I wasted all of my research time doing for this show, but it's from 700 years ago, and it's literally a list from the whole of the UK of all the nuisances that are reported by neighbours, and so I read through it, and most of them, to be fair, are about sewage leaking into

other people's gardens, so there are a lot of people. Maybe they were just flirting with the next old neighbour in a kind of lobster way. It didn't sound super sexy in the write-up, so there was a woman who built her own personal toilet, she didn't like throwing her sewage out of the window, which a lot of people did, but the solids blocked her gutter, and the neighbours said they were greatly inconvenienced by the stench, so that was then, and there was one more, just in 1377, Thomas and Alice Young complained that their neighbour built a forge, and they were making armour, but the sledgehammer crashing of them, making the armour, disturbed them, but worse than

that, the smoke penetrated their house, so it smelled really bad, and also they said, the blows of the hammer shake the walls of our house so much that it spoils our wine. Wow! That is unpleasant, actually, tough to live with that. I've got a fact about kind of a celebrity neighbour disputes, because this does happen. So for example, in Manhattan in the early 1970s, John Cage, famous composer, he lived next door to John Lennon, and he had to go round to complain about the noise. Well, can I just say, John Cage is most famous for writing that song, which is Complete Silence.

Exactly. I like the idea of John Lennon going back round and complaining any time he likes. Can you please stop playing four minutes and 33 seconds? I saw another, this is just very, to me, this is very British about noisy neighbours, in Crystal Palace in London, which is where I live, this family discovered in their basement an unexploded World War II bomb, and they found it in the evening, but they didn't call the police because they didn't want to wake the neighbours overnight, and so patiently guarded the bomb.

How loudly do they talk on the phone? They just didn't want everyone to be evacuated because they might be blown up by a World War II bomb. I think, to be honest, if the World War II bomb has lasted 60 full years, it's probably going to be okay for an extra 12 hours. That was their logic. Imagine if it had one of those timers counting down from 60 years ago. We've overset this one, but one day.

But there are often surveys done about the items that people find most annoying in neighbours, and they include hot tubs are annoying because people are making a lot of noise in hot tubs when they're in them, barbecues, automatic solar lights, trampolines are a very common cause of complaint, and I like this from the Guardian newspaper who commented that trampolines are complained about because they allow the neighbours' children to spy on you on an intermittent basis. Very annoying. I was just looking at some stupid names because of this guy called William Stand-Up Right.

I found a website which had every single name that's mentioned in the Doomsday book, and I spent most of my time reading that, to be honest. In the Doomsday book, there are four people called ABBA, 12 people called Alfred the Butler. Two called Ape, one called Bono, one fish, two gods and a snot. And there is one person called Anna, who was a man living in Puckle Church in Gloucestershire. No relation. My past is not supposed to be delved into, that was in my contract. There were no Danes, no Andes, and there was one James who lived in Cockfield in Suffolk.

He actually is a relation. I looked up a few names too. So I found that in the last decade, several dozen people have named their daughters unique. I also looked up some medieval ones as well. Just on the origins of rude words, in the middle ages, the early uses of the F word, the word fuck, meant to hit something. So there is a man in 1290 whose name was Simon Fuckbutter. He probably works in Derry.

There's actually, there's a really cool Twitter account which is called Name Curator, at Name Curator. And it's an account run by an Australian called Ben Osborn. And Ben Osborn just puts just his favorite names that he's found. So a couple that have gone up on the site, these are all real people, Dick Passwater is one guy, who was a NASCAR driver in the 50s, so Dick Passwater. And my favorite, a guy called Hans, Hans Off. And he's a former submarine official.

What was he called Dick Passwater? Yeah, Dick. And he was a NASCAR driver, because he was also another NASCAR driver at the same time, or maybe the following decade called Dick Trickle. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One of my favorite people, because Dick Trickle, he was an amazing motor racing driver, but he liked to smoke.

And they changed the rules and said you weren't allowed to smoke anymore, because you had to wear helmets, and you couldn't smoke while you were having, wearing your helmet. And so what he did was he drilled a hole in his helmet, and he smoked with putting the cigarette in there. Wow. And so for QI, I always wanted to ask the question, why did Dick Trickle have a hole in his helmet? Beautiful. Didn't make it past the censors, did it?

No, never made it past the producer. Do you know what Shakespeare means? Just is it like literally shaking the spear? Well, according to a book that came out in 2014, which is the Dictionary of Cern Names, it's written by a couple of professors, and one of them said that the medieval surname Shakespeare is probably an obscene name originally for a masturbator. No. Wow.

Really? He's a masturbator. Huns off. I think it was pretty Huns on. I was on Ancestry.com, and Ancestry.com has been listing Cern Names that have gone extinct. So obviously the ones that stand upright, I believe, will have been extinct. So ones that have recently gone extinct include Chips, Temples, Rummage, Sothec. So those, they've seen that there are virtually no new members who are being born with the

surname. And on the endangered list, and what counts as an endangered surname is so rare that less than 50 people in England and Wales have them. So this is for England and Wales. Included on the list is Mirren, as in Helen Mirren, Nighy, as in Bill Nighy, and Bonneville, as in Hugh Bonneville, all three leading actors. Endangered species, basically. It's all of our solemn duty tonight, if we can, to mate with Helen Mirren, Bill Nighy,

or Hugh Bonneville, depending on your preference. Form orderly cues. Okay, it is time for fact number three, and that is my fact. My fact this week is that the man who invented the Australian Labradoodle deeply, deeply regrets it. He is so sorry that he did that to all of us. This is a guy called Wally Conron. Wally Conron, who's now approaching his 90s, he was the first person in a mass sense and is credited with creating the trend which started in the 80s of the cross between the Labradoodle

and a poodle. And what he hates is it kind of took off, and it became a celebrity dog, and Jennifer Aniston has one, and crowned princes around the world have them, and it became such a fashionable dog, but to get the specific dog, there's a lot of breeding that needs to happen, and he thinks he's created the Frankenstein that has set off all these people experimenting with different breeds and so on for design or dog. So yeah, he's very sorry. He asked me to say he's very sorry.

I thought one of the reasons that he was sorry was because the whole reason the Labradoodle came to be was because he was asked to create a guy dog for a woman whose husband had a dog allergy, and so by merging those two, they're anti-allergenic, so you're not allergic to them. One of the reasons that he didn't like the Labradoodle is that it's advertised as a hyperallergenic dog, and yet a lot of people now breed them without actually testing whether or not they are, so I think quite a small percentage of them now are non-allergenic. But he is definitely against all of this kind of crossbreeding.

I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he said, I just heard about someone who wants to cross a poodle with a Rottweiler, but that is a thing. Yeah, it's called a rattle. Also called a rotty poo, a rotty doodle, or a rotweiler poo. Yeah. But a rotweiler poo sounds like something. Yeah.

Yeah, you can get a cockapoo, that's a cross between a cocker spaniel and a poodle, a peach poo, which is a shit zoo and a poodle. Yeah, a beech poo, which is a beech on freeze and a poodle, a peek-a-poo, which is a peeking ease and a poodle. No. Stop it. I mean, it does sound like they do it just for the names, doesn't it? Yeah, there's a Schnauzer-Scotty cross called a schnotty.

It's one other fun cross, which is a cross between a shit zoo and a jack russell, which has two names, but one of them is the jack shit. Have you guys... There are some other dogs that went extinct, or dogs we don't have anymore. So have you heard of the Salish wool dog? No. The wool dog was a dog you could shear, and then you would wear their coat as your coat. It was a dog that was big and fluffy enough that you could keep on shearing it.

Could you not do that with any dog? No. I don't know. You could have a go, couldn't you? Yeah. Might as well try. But you know why poodles have those stupid cuts of hair that they have? There's a proper reason behind it, and that is because they're originally to collect stuff

from water, and if they had this kind of really bushy hair, they would just get wet and they would get heavy. But is it hunting use? It was collecting quarries, so you've been hunting, and then the water says it's a duck, it's in the water, and then the poodle would go in and get it. And the idea was, so they wanted to have as little hair as possible, but it still needed hair to keep its internal organs warm, so that's why it kept it round there. It still needed it to keep the joints warm to stop arthritis, so it still needed it round

there, and the top knot was to keep the long hair out of its eyes when it was swimming. Wow. And that is a water dog, so the word poodle comes from the old German poodle, doesn't it, for puddle, because it was best at going into water and getting ducks out of it. But do you know the best thing about a poodle these days, when they're often shown in dog shows, is the thing that you're striving for is for them to be square. So I didn't, squareness is the thing you strive for most, above all things. So the Westminster Kennel show allows two styles of poodle, it's not too many.

They have continental and English, like breakfasts. And the English one is a much greasier dog. Yeah, but who's going to pay that much for a continental? Yeah, true. The continental is absurdly overpriced. It's so overpriced. But the answer, there are two styles of poodles that are allowed at these dog competitions, and they're judged on squareness, and if properly square, the area from their breast to their

bottom has to be the same as the area from their shoulder to the ground, and it's very precise. So in shows where poodles are being shown, they have to be really groomed very well, and groomers work with only the finest scissors, apparently. And the best poodle scissors are made in Japan, and they cost more than $600. Done. It sounds like you're samurai scissors. Yeah. My dad has, he's a hairdresser, and so is my mum, and he bought, when he was young,

a pair of scissors that were forged in the fires of Samurai. Of Mordor. They are samurai scissors. They were made by Samurai. And you said that on the show, and we really did not believe you. Yeah. And then I showed you the article where he was in the newspaper. It's true.

I mean, it's still him going, Samurai scissors, but they're so sharp, because they're made by the Samurai that when you're a hairdresser and you have your scissors, you need to get them sharpened every two or three years. You go and do it. My dad takes them every two or three years, and they say to him, there is nothing we can do for you. They are as sharp as the day you bought them, Samurai's. Wow.

I've got a fact about dog mentality assessments. If anyone's up for that. Yes, please. It's, sorry, dog mentality assessments in Sweden. Oh, no, no, no. So there's a Swedish association which has to assess how relaxed and calm a dog is. And it uses this thing called the dog mentality assessment. And what it is, it's basically a haunted house for dogs.

So they make a dog walk along a long path in some woods. And then as it walks along, they suddenly, they play a gunshot sound. They play the sound of a metal chain being creepily dragged along. And then suddenly a ghost appears. What? Is it a dog ghost? No, it's a human ghost. There's a person coming in a sheet with a plastic bucket on their head.

And they test how calm or aggressive the dog is. So are they doing this because it's like a seeing dog? I think they're doing this because they have time on their hands. Like if it was like a blind person. I think it might be to assess it in that kind of working dogs, the aggressiveness. Yeah. Right. Wow, that's exciting.

I have a couple of things on. So the main headline fact is the inventor regretting his invention. I found a few other people who've regretted their inventions. So Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web, he really regrets. You know, originally when we all had to put in a web address, HTTP and so on, he regrets the two forward slashes that you do. Because... That's the best bit.

Well, I agree, James. I had great fun. I wish there were more. But I sometimes put an extra one in just for fun. Exactly. Hours of fun. And so the two forward slashes on it, which is completely useless, didn't need to be there. He just put them in because like James and I, loves a good forward slash.

And they had no purpose at all. And he regrets that. He's publicly spoken and said, I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Okay. Yeah, I think people thought they did code at the time. I mean, they did serve purpose in certain code, didn't they? And so he assumed they were useful.

Yes. But then it turned out later that they weren't. And he said the countless hours of human labor and time spent typing those two keystrokes. Oh, what will we have done with the time? I could have watched the wire. Okay. I'll never watch the wire because of Tim Berners-Lee. Hey, we need to move on to our final fact soon.

Guys, got anything before we do? The Queen is very responsible for dog crossbreeds. Is she? Our Queen and yours, guys. Don't forget. Hours was one of the first crossbreeds, as the BBC put it, to infiltrate the Kennel Club because she bred Daxons with corgis. And she insisted on her doggy being in the portrait that she had done with her in the 1970s, in 1975.

And quite sweetly, the secretary of the Kennel Club at the time that judges all of these things said that, look, the Daxon was evolved to chase badgers down holes and corgis were evolved to round up cattle. So if anyone loses a herd of cattle down a badger hole, these are just the dogs to get them. Okay, it is time for our final fact of the show, and that is Andy. My fact has a content warning. This bit's rude. Okay, cool. Oh, unlike that lobster bit we did earlier.

So my fact is that the word shit-faced originally meant having a very small face. So if you said, I was absolutely shit-faced last night, it just means all your features have bunched up right in the middle. It's because it comes from the word chit. Yeah. You hear that. You say it's very old-fashioned saying you hear it said sometimes a mere chit of a lad. Yeah, or like a chitty is a little receipt or something like that. Exactly.

Yeah, it just means like a small thing. So the first usage that I've been able to find is 1622, where there's a child described as a peaking chit-faced page. It just means small face. I think we should bring it back, don't you? Yes, I do. There are loads of words for being drunk, but there are very few for having a small face. Imagine if the band, The Small Faces, had originally called themselves the shit-faces. So this is a weird thing, but last night Andy said to all of us, who do you think has the smallest face?

All of us four. And I thought we were doing this fact. Is that why you were there? It's not consciously why I asked. Because you were called pinhead at school, weren't you? Yeah. But as I pointed out, pins, famously, have very large heads relative to their body. Let me tell you, the joke was on those guys.

Nice one, shit-faces. I was looking up other false shit words, basically. So there's the word shittle, which means inconstant, like a shuttle. You know, it means back and forward, the word shittle. So you used to play badminton with a shittle cock. No way. Yeah. No way.

Um, shite poke. Shite poke. Yes. Sorry, I just don't like you. Now, shite poke was an old word for a heron. Wow. And the reason was because people thought that herons defecated when taking flight. Oh.

Which they do sometimes, but not all the time. There was a guy in the 19th century who wrote the Dictionary of West Somerset in 1875, and he said that the 29th of May is shit-sack day. And he writes this, the writer of the dictionary says, in the northwest of Somerset and North Devon, it is common to hear boys call out on that day, shit-sack, shit-sack, but I have been unable to discover the origin. It feels to me like he's not heard them saying it to him on the other days.

There's a three-volume dictionary of slang called Jonathan Green's, Jonathan Green is the guy who wrote it. He's a genius. But I looked up peculiarly Australian shit slang words. So I don't know how familiar these might be, everyone knows them. But so for example, I'm so hungry I could eat a shit sandwich, only I don't like bread. There's to take the shit with the sugar, which is to accept that one must have both bad and good experiences in life.

And my favorite is, you don't know whether you want a shit or a haircut. Which is, you're stupid, that's what that means. I think it's possible to want both of those things. The word shit though has a long history, doesn't it? And a long etymological history. So it comes from ske, which meant to cut. And so it's the same origin as words like science and schedule and shield. And it was spelled shite until the 1700s.

But they used to kind of broaden their shit-based vocabulary. So in old English, skite was diarrhea. And beskitan was one word that meant to cover with excrement. And also in the 18th century, according to the Partridge Dictionary of Slang, to shit through your teeth was to vomit, which does make a lot of sense. And the example that's given in this dictionary is, e.g., hark, you friend, have you got a padlock on your arse that you shite through your teeth? Wow.

I have some swear words which are not at all rude, but they are awesome. These are incredibly rude in the languages that they are in. So for example... So we're going to alienate not just the English-speaking world of this podcast. Yeah, the Swedish, the Romanians and the Japanese had better buckle up when they're listening to this. So in Sweden, you can say, go and put an old blanket over yourself, which is really rude to them. In Sweden. Yeah, in Sweden.

But that's what that guy who was pretending to be a ghost was doing. So in Japan, you can say, tofu no kado ni atama wo butsukete shine, or hit your head on a corner of tofu and die. In Romanian, there's a phrase which means, I can't believe this is true, it means, I would dry my dirty pants on your mum's crucifix. That one's quite rude in English as well. Can I just, in Romanian, I read an article on VICE, which had a Romanian person writing in about swearing in Romania,

and they said, swearing culture in Romania is built on oral sex, mothers and Christ. So that's very much the trifecta of things not to say in Romania. Okay, that is it. That is all of our facts. Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to get in contact with any of us about the things that we have said over the course of this podcast, we are on our Twitter accounts. I am on at Shriverland.

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We will be back again next week with another episode. Guys, you have been awesome. Thank you so much. We'll be back again. Goodbye! Thank you.