No Such Thing As A Fish - 276: No Such Thing As A Ninja With A Cat
Episode Date: July 5, 2019Live from Gothenburg, Dan, James, Anna and Andrew discuss ninja snorkelling, Spiderman's fall from a traffic light, and waiting at a train station for 120 years. ...
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My name is Dan Schreiber. I am sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Andrew Hunter Murray and James Harkin and once again
We have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days and in no particular order here
We go starting with you, Andy
My fact is that Sweden's public art body has just commissioned an artwork which will hire someone to do nothing at Gothenburg's
Korsvagen train station for the next 120 years
120 years 120 years so that can't be the same person for 120 years
It might be we don't know about medical advances in the next century
So it could be that so this is a thing. It's called eternal employment and
Gothenburg has a new train station called Korsvagen and I don't know if you can tell the home
But people here are very excited about it
There was a competition to provide a public artwork and there were two artists who one called Simon Golden and Jakob Senobi and they have
Half a million pounds to spend and they spent it on hiring an employee to do whatever they like forever
As long as you check in and check out of your work each day
You'll get
21,600 kroner a month which is enough to buy five beers here
But then that we the application you can still go for this by the way, the application deadline is the 15th of December
2025
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, and their duties will be taken up. Well the lack of duties will be taken up on the 15th of March
2026
If you're bad with deadlines like me, you can put that off for another six years
There's a job description online which is quite poetic
It goes there's a scent. Do you smell it the scent of something we smell it? It's seaweed
You're seaweed
You want to be seaweed you shall be seaweed
You know that thank you for knowing
Thank you for seaweed
You're standing there right there standing like what like a prawn
A positive prawn a flexible prawn an unpretentious prawn a goal-oriented prawn
Thank you. Thanks
So I think that tells you everything that you have to do for this show. Yeah, any questions
Does that sound more normal in Swedish?
Yeah, Google translates on a hell of a job
So I like that the way it's gonna be as well is once the station is open and the applicant has been
Chosen and he's got or she has residency of the job
There's gonna be fluorescent lights that go on on the station level or the platform levels to let all passengers know that the
The person doing nothing is at work
They're here either doing something or absolutely nothing and you can't tell who they are if they're on the platforms
But there's gonna be two rooms that they can go to one is a glass room where you can see what they're doing
And the other is just a closed-off room
Which they can just choose to sit in and you never see but actually they don't have to stay on in the train station at all
As long as they clock in and clock out they could bugger off all day
Yeah, but there are things you can't do so you can't go and get another job
That is seen as not playing the game
But the job that does come with a pension and with holiday
You've got a holiday from doing nothing
It's not actually a brilliantly paid job. It's fine, but if the salary is pretty below average
And I would have been in 120 years. It's gonna be worth literally what it's going up
It's going up with increases by three percent a year. So and if you die
They will just give the job to someone else. Yeah, I think that's how jobs work
I
Guess we need to retire that role of
Person serving at the counter of McDonald's. It's just gonna have to be an empty counter now
We should say what its purpose is really which they are making a point
So it's inspired by Thomas Piketty's capital in the 21st century that very trendy book for anyone claiming to be academic
Yeah, got some chairs
So it's about the return on capital being higher than the average increase in wages
So it's basically there's this art prize money
Which was seven million Krono
I think and the idea is that they're gonna invest that and the return on that investment is going to yield that personal salary
for 120 years
So the idea is money makes more money than humans to which is depressing
But still fun for that person who's doing
Can I say a very quick thing about so this is art meets train station and
So the most ambitious crossover in history
And so I was looking into sort of entertaining art sort of things that were going on with train stations
And I read this fact which is in London in our underground station
We have the very famous iconic mine the gap. Oh, yeah, I'm the gap which is set
So when that was initially recorded was recorded by a sound engineer called Peter Lodge
And he got an actor who was a well-known actor of the time and he got him to record and he recorded mine the gap and stand clear of the doors and
After it was recorded and they were sort of getting it ready to send it out
The guy suddenly said I want royalties for every time
Yeah, you can't have that that's insane and he said no, that's that's my deal
So they cut him off and they were going to rerecord it
But they listened to the recording of the sound engineer Peter Lodge who was testing the microphones going mine the gap
And they went that's good enough
He was the he was the original voice of the London underground the sound engineer testing the microphones
Famous thing in in London about the mind the gap announcement
Maybe the station announcement at one station
I can't remember which which is recorded by a guy who died a few years ago
And then they changed the recording because you know someone else got it
They thought they jazzed up the station and the widow of the guy who died wrote to the station
Didn't she and said please can you change that back? That's you know, the only time I hear my husband's voice
Yeah, his name was Oswald Lawrence. It was in Bankman station
It was on the northern line and they changed it back so she could always hear his voice
Yeah
Speaking of London, so there's
Captain practical
So if you live in London, there's another job you can get which seems quite cushy it is to become a luxury product tester
For that you get a
75,000 pound salary which is about hundred thousand US dollars and you get to test supercars yachts and private islands
Wow, okay, so this morning I applied for this job
Let's see this is where you look up jobs testing luxury islands
I found out there is a man whose job is to watch paint drying as the real job
He's and he's a real person. He's called Keith Jackson and he works for an industrial paint firm and
Big part of his job is assessing the drying time of industrial paint
And that doesn't sound important does it
He must be watching it the whole time, is he he might have a break he'll probably have a break
Do you think paint is like a watch pot? Do you think it boils as soon as your back is turned?
But no, the reason it's important that it happens is because sometimes you paint things and then you need to know
How long the paint will take to be dry? So for example London underground
Yeah, they can only be painted at stations between three o'clock and five o'clock in the morning
And then it has to be dry enough to walk on so this is a very high-stakes situation
Wow
The stakes are medium-low to medium the medium
But he said he said people do love and find it amusing when I tell them what I do
He said it could be described as the most boring job in the world
But it is a very important one watching paint dry sounds quite easy, but it can be stressful at times
So also while you're looking at jobs of watching paint dry, I was looking at jobs of watching pornography
And apparently there's a nightclub in Denmark that's hiring someone to watch 20 hours of pornographic films for
2,500 pounds
Equivalent and the reason is they want to select the best parts of the soundtrack that they'll make a playlist of that
They'll play in the nightclub bathroom
Sure, that's the reason
I've been looking at some kind of jobs that sound
Some people who are kind of lazy at work
So this obviously would suit this job at the train station would suit someone who's quite lazy at work
There've been some good people who have been in the past. So there was a civil servant called Carlos Retio
He was a Spanish civil servant. He skipped work for a decade
He used to clock in at 7 30 in the morning and then he'd returned to work to clock out at 4 in the afternoon
So he's perfect for this station job. He took home a 50 grand salary and
He then when he was caught and it was discovered that he'd just been skipping work for over 10 years
He then admitted to it fine
And then there was an art exhibition put on in the town that used a council venue and the exhibition was called
Love for Valencia the works of a man who never worked and it was booked under what turned out to be a fake name and
They discovered later it was put on by him this man who'd skipped work the whole time as kind of a peon to his own glory
Having skipped work and there were paintings. There were sculptures and there were bronze busts of this man
Succeeded in not working the council discovered that it was him who booked it and they cancelled it
But I discovered that he got no charges. He got no big fine. He was suspended from work not even fired
Speaking of doing nothing
There is a hotel with a or there was the hotel still exists
But they used to have a suite called the checkout suite and if you did nothing and you use no internet
Then you get the suite for free
Okay, so it worked out how much internet you were using and how much work you were doing and if you use the time to just relax
And do nothing they gave it you for free. This was the hotel Ballora, which is in Gothenburg
Which is the hotel we're staying in at the moment?
So I spoke to the receptionist this afternoon
And she said it ran for three months and every single person who went there managed to get it for free
There must be something to the people of Gothenburg that just quite happy sitting around going
We're just gonna chill. You know what if you've got a few sheets of slightly damp paint the time flies by
Okay, it is time for fact number two and that is Chazinski
Yes, my fact this week is that
Ninjas sword sheets had removable tips. So if they ever had to hide underwater, they could use them like a snorkel to breathe
That's so cool
So they brought the sword with them as well, right? Yeah, you do bring the sword
That's the main thing, but it's basically being a ninja was all about kind of adapting to your environment
It was like being a
Sort of 15 17th century Japanese James Bond
It really was they had all these gadgets and one of them was the sword and the scabbard
They would use it like a snorkel because hiding underwater was the major part of being a ninja
I'm finally hard to put this into words, but what?
What so why would you need to be underwater?
So basically
What a ninja was was it was sort of like the flip side of a samurai
So samurai in Japan were very well respected honorable noble fighters and the ninja was the sneaky
Mercenary agent they were very very looked down upon at the time they were around which and they were they had their hey
17th century in Japan and their function was basically espionage
So they were spies and deception and surprise attack and covert methods
And they did a lot of hiding and running away and one of their main ways of hiding was using the water
So certain ninja texts from the time advised that in daytime hide underwater so as not to be seen
You just spend the whole day underwater
And so you need this snorkel like thing on the end of your sword and so the scabbard end can double as a breathing tube
One of the texts that I read advising ninjas said that the end of your scabbard
If you had the removable tip taken off could also be a hearing aid or a megaphone
It could also be used as a stepladder for climbing over fences. Oh, yeah
Well, you'd sort of jab it into the wall and I think it might be what I imagine and this might be wrong because this just came out of my
Imagination but you know like with a sod you have that like cross bit. Yeah, I kind of hide your hand
Yeah, but if you turn it upside down, you could just step on it
Oh
I thought you meant if you stabbed it into the wall you could bounce off the sword
Yes, and I tell you a cool thing that ninjas could do
So ninjas had incredible abilities according to the old text one of the thing they could do is they could tell the time of day
By looking at a cat's eye
So if you asked a ninja, what time is it and a cat was around they could look at the cat and
They would study the pupil of the eye which changes during the day according to the Sun
If they can't see the cat it's nighttime
What that didn't happen did it you would have to have a cat on you at all times
It's more difficult to carry a cat around to know the time that it is to just guess the time
But it would be a party trick as you would say
They didn't go to parties their whole raison d'etre was concealing their identity
You can't keep the cat under water
They hate the water they can do that
So patronized by these guys sometimes they could read cat's eyes and also
So can we just do can't size actually change according to the I think they do very slightly because of the amount of likes on
That's not a reliable indicator of time is it because if you're in a dark room
But it's midday and you look at the cat and the cat's eyes are massive you think oh great
It's nighttime. I can leave my dark room. It's not it's midday. You're gonna be spotted immediately
No, but this is a completely unworkable system
It's like saying they have an ability or they don't go to 24 hours a day and must be a lie
It's you know, they do it when a cat's around like that
You know, I can do stuff on a cat around that I won't need to do when it's not around
Um
This might be a good moment to mention that it's very difficult to study ninjas because there's a little side evidence
There's a lot of rumor about what they could do
So there are a few really really good texts like the book of ninja, which I'm sure down is drawing from here
But a lot of people sort of playing the ninjas could fly or that they could read minds
Or they could go invisible and that was all bullshit, but they could do but the rock narrowest at noon when you see their eyes
Do you know one way they could tell the time which I thought was quite cool that was in one of the books
And this is written in like the 1630s
I think was they said way to see if time is passing if you're hiding at night to ambush is
Work out which nostril you're breathing out of because your nostrils
So, you know how you're only ever breathing out of one nostril at a time
And this walks around sporadically and the rule was that it stops around roughly every hour
And so if you're aware that your nostrils have just swapped then I was gone by
All right, all right ninjas synchronize your noses
Yeah, there are some people who think that ninjas weren't really a thing like that they they didn't exist
Nearly as much as is now believed by popular culture and the because there's so little evidence of it
So there was a Japan expert from the University of Leeds who said that ninjas
actively didn't exist in the way
So the kind of the thing of someone basically the idea of someone running around in black pyjamas is not
Coherent as an idea because it will be very obvious
so
It's mostly agricultural land at this time in history
Yeah, so you'd be dressed as a farmer if you were a ninja if you see a guy running around in black soaking wet pyjamas with a cat under his arm
But I mean so there is lots of
So he gave an example actually
So the year is 1600 two of your enemies are fighting a battle
So you send a couple of guys dressed as farmers to the area to watch the battle and report back about what's happening
That's ninja work. So that's the kind of a lot of it was more. I think observation then, you know, nunchucks and
Yes, but it was extremely
Saraptitious, so like historians that people tend to think are very trustworthy from that period recorded it
There's a guy called Fuji Bayashi who recorded a lot of the ninjas methods and they were bound by a sort of
spirituality which was ruled by five elements and these elements were wood fire earth metal and water and these all
Represented different ways of fighting or hiding or getting away and they're really funny
So he recorded like the ways you'd use these different elements
So in the water one it would be for instance
You'd use your sword as the breathing tube or you would have to be trained to throw large quantities of duckweed on water
That you think you might escape through later so that you could then hide among its leaves and float with them to safety
Yeah, very clever
I found a one that might be the an earth method if that's one of the elements
So there's apparently a skill called Uzura Gakure which is curling oneself into a ball to look like a rock
So you believe that one
But then there's someone who comes disguised as some paper and they can just
Say
Yeah, we're just saying that they don't carry animals with them cats with them
But they did supposedly carry crickets with them boxes of crickets
And the idea was if if they needed to go somewhere, but they were a bit noisy
They could then release the crickets and the crickets would make crickety noises and then they could quickly
Shuffle over to where they need to be. That's okay. How do they keep the crickets quiet?
They keep them in a jar or box
This is this is much more plausible than the cat thing so far, so I'm they also used to wear fake children feet
The ninjas so it is said I need to say it is said is rumored
That's the ninjas used to wear on the soles of their shoes sort of either children's feet or an elderly woman's
So the footprints in let's say the sand yeah
Or like, you know, they're soggy feet coming out of the river be like oh a child must have been swimming in that
So they wouldn't be deceiving to all it's true that American
Cattle rustlers used to wear shoes which had like cow hooves on the bottom of them
So you would think that it was cows that had gone past all horses rather than yet humans and in Bhutan
It said that yeti's can take their feet
Backward so it looks like they've gone that way when in fact on that way
I was really trying to help
Okay, it is time for fact number three and that is my fact my fact this week is that one month before the French
Spider-Man successfully climbed the second tallest building in the world
He was hospitalized after falling from a seven foot tall traffic light
Now this was to promote his climb of the second at what was at the time actually the tallest building in the world
which was in Taiwan and
He was climbing this traffic light the photographer was there
He slipped fell got 40 stitches was hospitalized and it jeopardized the actual climb itself
They thought he might not be able to do it, but he did pull through
And he is an urban climber. He is yeah, his name is Elaine Roberts and he is
Online, I don't know the community that well, but when you see online
He's sort of regarded as the greatest urban climber of our day. I mean he's in his mid fifties
No, I think he's about 56 and he's still climbing extremely tall buildings
It's amazing. Although he's bound for climbing in Britain. We don't like him
He was I feel kind of bad for him
So he climbed the Heron Tower in London very tall skyscraper and he was arrested the moment
He reached the top. I just feel so it took him over half an hour and
Waited for him at the top
He's only wasted half an hour. I think that's okay. You're right
And then he's wasted the 20 weeks suspended jail sentence that he got
Well, he also in 2012 he was spotted inside the shard building in London and the building's owners
Subsequently obtaining junction preventing him from ever returning to their building
So he realized I'm on the wrong side
He's lost it up the stairs going this is easy
So he's climbed over 150 skyscrapers and one thing he says is that the first two meters are almost the most important
Because after that the police can't grab your feet
The police are often there waiting for him when he gets to the top of a building and I've read in interviews that the only thing
He has on him is chalk for his hands as he's climbing and he wears special shoes
But that's not quite true because I think what he also carries on him is his hat so so he knows what time it is
Box of crickets so no one can hear him coming his climbing shoes are actually in the shape of an old woman's feet
Looks like the old woman climbed the south face of the building
I know what he actually does carry with him is his passport and his lawyer's number
And he just hands that to the police as soon as he gets there
But it's quite a common thing like urban climbing
It's something that there are quite a few heroes of urban climbing in 2016
There was a guy who got in trouble because he tried to scale Trump Tower and he spent three hours doing it
He was using suction cups on his hands like handling his hands and feet in fact
So it was a massive suction cups and he reached the 21st floor
But NYPD were desperately trying to catch him
It was bizarre to watch so they kept on sort of smashing windows up the building to try and reach out to grab him and they couldn't get him
They kept trying to impede his progress by climbing through air vents and stuff
I think and they just couldn't do it and eventually they set up two massive airbags like mattresses in case he fell down
Just below him and on the pavement and he was asked afterwards why he'd done it
So there was this huge rigmarole took three hours reached the 21st floor and then the police sort of
Sprung out of a window grabbed him and pulled him in said why not have you done that and he said look
I'm just a political researcher, and I really wanted to meet Donald Trump
You know just we were talking about Alan Robert. Yeah, he has vertigo
Really? He suffers from vertigo
Vertigo is sort of feeling the urge to free yourself off a great height, isn't it? It's not fear of height
No, this is a inner ear problem, which makes you dizzy and stuff. Oh, I thought then you've got the urge
So you felt like the ground was coming towards you
I think you feel very I think you feel very dizzy and you feel a bit unstable
Yeah, he's had that since 1982 and he's still done it. Yeah
He had it after he was showing students how to climb with his hands behind his back and then fell 26 feet off the wall
Yeah
He's married with three kids
And I read an interview with his wife because they said you must be you know, you know
Freed out every single time he goes and climbs a building how are you feeling and she sort of kind of said well
I knew what I was getting into really because when she first met him both of his arms were in plaster casts from a ball
The one thing that defeated him in London in
2002 was the weather
He got three quarters up the way of number one Canada Square in Canary Wharf
It was so cold wet and windy. He just got completely stuck and had to be rescued by a window cleaning left
But it's got a long and illustrious history urban climbing which by the way it's called what it's got a number of names
It could be called an edifice erine or stegophily
So that's the official term for it
And I really like the etymology of this so the Greek stegos is roof so it's love of roof
So it's like climbing up onto roofs
It's from the same route as what's like the other word that you'd assume is stegosaurus
Yeah, it's in the same route as stegosaurus because that means roofed lizard because when they first found the stegosaurus
They thought people climbing up it
They had a roof on top no it was
So they thought that the plates on top of a stegosaurus would be horizontal rather than vertical
So they thought that it had a roof over it. So it's called roofed lizard
That's so cool. It is cool. But an urban climbing stegophily has a long history in Oxford and Cambridge University
So the first urban climber was a guy called Jeffrey Winthrop Young who published a book called the Roof Climbers Guide to Trinity at
College at Cambridge and it gave really detailed instructions on which routes to take up and then there was another guy called
Noel Howard Simington who wrote one in 1937 again Nine Climbers Guide to Cambridge and his pseudonym was Whipple Snaith
And this is so weird the person who reviewed his book and wrote about the details of
Climbing up Cambridge buildings was also called Whipple. He was called Tom Whipple
So the modern-day Cambridge building climber is called Tom Whipple. I know Tom Whipple. No way
Well, I don't know if it's the same Tom Whipple. I'm sure it will be. I know the circles you're moving
Have you guys heard of the human fly
Hang on, there's no anecdote to knowing Tom. Well, he's a journalist. Yeah, he is. He's a very nice guy. Tell us about the human fly. Yeah
His name is Tom
So, okay, we need to move on
So the human fly was a guy called Henry Gardner and he was one of the first really impressive
Building climbers. He was in the 1910s and 20s. He climbed 700 buildings without gear frequently wearing a suit
And he was paid to do it by companies to promote their offices in the news skyscrapers
So in 1916 he climbed to the ninth floor window of a skyscraper
Climbed into the window of a bank branch and opened an account at the bank
That's what the stunts he did
Um, or he would do that, you know, you open an insurance thing and he was he was really really famous
We don't know what happened to him. He went missing in 1925. Oh, really? He probably fell off a building, didn't he?
If you were to guess, I'm afraid he might have done that. Robert guy does it for money now
Doesn't he basically does it sponsored and he usually uses actual climbing gear and stuff like that
but actually a lot of people do die so
This Harry Gardner who was actually it was Grover Cleveland the president who nicknamed him the human fly apparently
And he said that 120 of those who sought to imitate me in this hazardous profession have fallen to death
So he was saying that that happened and people have looked into this scientists have looked into it
There's been a study in 2006 and they said in every country there is an excess of male deaths due to potentially avoidable reasons
According to their theory, this is what they quoted as saying men are idiots
And idiots do stupid things
And on that note we need to move
Onto our final fact of the show and that is James
Okay, my fact this week is that in the early Eurovision song contests
Songs could not be performed in public before the event
One Danish song was banned after the composer whistled it in a TV broadcasters canteen
This is incredible
So yeah, this was in the bit where you had to become the Danish entry and there was six different songs
And this guy was just in the canteen having his lunch and he was just kind of whistling it to himself
And then they did the actual thing where they performed it and the people they're going sounds a bit familiar
Isn't it and then they got banned?
Was he maybe secretly doing it to try and cede the tune of people's minds or if there's no suggestion of that
You know what? I haven't thought of that. But yeah, I mean probably not
Amazing song that they were like wait, that's the song I heard in that canteen a week ago
What a shame it couldn't enter. Yeah, that's true. What a great whistler. He must be
Whistling it's everyone is a better whistler than they are a singer
Well, it's easier to match a tune that you've heard whistling than it is singing
There are some people who can't whistle right? I've met a few people who can't whistle, right?
If you can whistle
You are a better whistler probably
Really what they've looked at that. That's not just your opinion. It's not just my opinion
Can you repeat this tune sung or repeat it and it's because I mean, you know
It's obviously much easier to make a tune on a musical instrument because they're specifically designed to match specific notes
But muscles are just a bit less precise
When the Eurovision Song Contest first started Britain decided we didn't want to take part in this Eurovision Song Contest
So we decided to have our own British Song Contest
British popular songs and which was won by Dennis Lotus who was born in South Africa
The thing that I don't really understand about Eurovision and I think it is bigger here than it is in Britain
But it's the constant insistence every year that it's not political
It should never be political and it's just about the music when it is so patiently political
I don't understand why everyone doesn't embrace that
So they're a bit like everything about the history of Eurovision in 2009
Though it was just after the Russia-Georgia conflict and Georgia had to withdraw its entry because the organizers had told them
They had to change their lyrics and the title of the entry song which was we don't want to put in which is a very unveiled reference
to
Putin so yeah, and then it's back and forth all the time
Yeah, there was um, it's when it first came it was supposed to bring Europe together
But Turkey pulled out in 1976 because Greece were taking part, but then Greece pulled out in 1975 because Turkey were taking part
Greece sent to Ireland in 2008 because they mentioned Macedonia and they sent to Finland in
2007 for being satanic
But then Finland sent to Israel in the same year for mentioning nuclear weapons and this year Israel's embassy
Complaints of the Netherlands after they pardoned their Eurovision winner and Iran moved all of its diplomats from Azerbaijan in
2012 and protested it hosting the contest even though Iran's nothing to do with Eurovision
And when Israel won in 1978 the TV show in Jordan told viewers that Belgium had won
And in 1973 Portugal arrested the writer of its own song because they thought it wasn't fascist enough
We're all friends together
Do you know Salvador Dali was involved with the Eurovision song?
Let's say 1969 the stage so it was in Madrid and the stage had this giant
Sculpture a metal sculpture on stage and that was designed by Salvador Dali
But not only that he also designed their press material or the press packages
Now he was a man who had trouble telling the time
The 1978 one was particularly controversial, so it was 1978 was the one Israel won
I think and during the contest it became obvious that Israel was going to win and
most Arabic countries were
Transmissing it on their TV stations and they cancelled the transmission as soon as it became obvious
So they were just quickly flicked to another channel with no explanation
And actually you say that Jordan said that Belgium had won and they just replaced their transmission with a bunch of daffodils
There was a you mentioned the British equivalent
Yes, there was a Soviet Union equivalent as well, which was called intervision the intervision song contest
and it only happened four times and
We spoke about this before is this was the way that you voted it was that a lot of people didn't have
Telephones in the Soviet Union
So you had to turn on your lights if you like the song
And you had to turn them off if you didn't like the song and they just measured the load on each country's electricity network
Determined how many points you got
Amazing it was the wild west of songs of some contest
So for example one entrant in those in those four years stayed on stage for 45 minutes
Just kept going until they were removed
The thing about that is that you had to someone else pointed this out in last class reading
You had to sit in pitch dark for all the songs you didn't like
You can't turn your lights on
How miserable you don't like the song anyway also bizarrely Canada was an entrant in two of the I think four years that that was going
They have weird entrance like the fact that Australia is in Eurovision is obviously a bit weird
And also a bit painful because they have the highest score on average the Australians
So good we've been there in five times and then three of those five we've made it to the top ten
Yeah, how many if you were?
What did you come this year? I?
Feel we're all on a loser against Sweden
Yeah, do you know if you actually go to the Eurovision song contest what you what you have to do is adhere to
Very strict rules about what can go in with you
So like most places you go to there's a list of things that are not allowed to be taken into a venue
But with the European Song Contest it's things like helmets adhesive tape
Golf balls are not allowed and shopping trolleys. They specify shopping trolleys
This it just feels like that each year they're responding to one disastrous entry
So I think about within the last decade the Greek team performed on a trampoline
Did they yeah, so that I don't know trampolines on the list. No, I mean
People coming it's not for the people. Sorry. It's the audience people
There hasn't been something in the Eurovision subcater. It's just singing and hitting golf balls. It's the audience
The Russians who came second, I think a few years ago with that team of grannies
Baked on stage
Yeah, I mean it is a strange contest that was in 1985 the contest was held in Gothenburg
It's such an easy way of getting a chair
Shameless and the it was very popular amongst
British viewers and a lot of people tuned in where you wouldn't really think they would do and that's because the Swedish entry was
Entitled bra vibration
Oh
Well for the people who are in this room, I believe it means good vibrations
In 1997 Denmark's entry was a rap in Danish about a guy who had fallen in love with a woman from directory inquiries
In 1918 Norway's entry was a song about the construction of a hydroelectric power plant
Estonia in 2013 had a song which repeatedly just said the phrase a local man called Korsakov went to Latvia yesterday
And in 2006 Lithuania had a song called we are the winners which just said we are the winners again and again
And again and they came sick
I want to know if they ever found the local man called Korsakov
We're gonna have to wrap up guys
Well, okay one more thing. Yeah, the first person to get nil-poir as in no pints in Eurovision
Was a guy called Jan Tegan from Norway
Okay
But he became a national hero because he got no pints and his song was number one for two months
And remained in the top ten for three more months afterwards, and he also had the number one album called this year's loser
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