No Such Thing As A Fish - 276: No Such Thing As A Ninja With A Cat

Episode Date: July 5, 2019

Live from Gothenburg, Dan, James, Anna and Andrew discuss ninja snorkelling, Spiderman's fall from a traffic light, and waiting at a train station for 120 years. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Uh My name is Dan Schreiber. I am sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Andrew Hunter Murray and James Harkin and once again We have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days and in no particular order here We go starting with you, Andy My fact is that Sweden's public art body has just commissioned an artwork which will hire someone to do nothing at Gothenburg's Korsvagen train station for the next 120 years 120 years 120 years so that can't be the same person for 120 years It might be we don't know about medical advances in the next century
Starting point is 00:01:15 So it could be that so this is a thing. It's called eternal employment and Gothenburg has a new train station called Korsvagen and I don't know if you can tell the home But people here are very excited about it There was a competition to provide a public artwork and there were two artists who one called Simon Golden and Jakob Senobi and they have Half a million pounds to spend and they spent it on hiring an employee to do whatever they like forever As long as you check in and check out of your work each day You'll get 21,600 kroner a month which is enough to buy five beers here
Starting point is 00:01:51 But then that we the application you can still go for this by the way, the application deadline is the 15th of December 2025 Okay. Yeah. Yeah, and their duties will be taken up. Well the lack of duties will be taken up on the 15th of March 2026 If you're bad with deadlines like me, you can put that off for another six years There's a job description online which is quite poetic It goes there's a scent. Do you smell it the scent of something we smell it? It's seaweed You're seaweed
Starting point is 00:02:36 You want to be seaweed you shall be seaweed You know that thank you for knowing Thank you for seaweed You're standing there right there standing like what like a prawn A positive prawn a flexible prawn an unpretentious prawn a goal-oriented prawn Thank you. Thanks So I think that tells you everything that you have to do for this show. Yeah, any questions Does that sound more normal in Swedish?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah, Google translates on a hell of a job So I like that the way it's gonna be as well is once the station is open and the applicant has been Chosen and he's got or she has residency of the job There's gonna be fluorescent lights that go on on the station level or the platform levels to let all passengers know that the The person doing nothing is at work They're here either doing something or absolutely nothing and you can't tell who they are if they're on the platforms But there's gonna be two rooms that they can go to one is a glass room where you can see what they're doing And the other is just a closed-off room
Starting point is 00:03:49 Which they can just choose to sit in and you never see but actually they don't have to stay on in the train station at all As long as they clock in and clock out they could bugger off all day Yeah, but there are things you can't do so you can't go and get another job That is seen as not playing the game But the job that does come with a pension and with holiday You've got a holiday from doing nothing It's not actually a brilliantly paid job. It's fine, but if the salary is pretty below average And I would have been in 120 years. It's gonna be worth literally what it's going up
Starting point is 00:04:24 It's going up with increases by three percent a year. So and if you die They will just give the job to someone else. Yeah, I think that's how jobs work I Guess we need to retire that role of Person serving at the counter of McDonald's. It's just gonna have to be an empty counter now We should say what its purpose is really which they are making a point So it's inspired by Thomas Piketty's capital in the 21st century that very trendy book for anyone claiming to be academic Yeah, got some chairs
Starting point is 00:05:02 So it's about the return on capital being higher than the average increase in wages So it's basically there's this art prize money Which was seven million Krono I think and the idea is that they're gonna invest that and the return on that investment is going to yield that personal salary for 120 years So the idea is money makes more money than humans to which is depressing But still fun for that person who's doing Can I say a very quick thing about so this is art meets train station and
Starting point is 00:05:36 So the most ambitious crossover in history And so I was looking into sort of entertaining art sort of things that were going on with train stations And I read this fact which is in London in our underground station We have the very famous iconic mine the gap. Oh, yeah, I'm the gap which is set So when that was initially recorded was recorded by a sound engineer called Peter Lodge And he got an actor who was a well-known actor of the time and he got him to record and he recorded mine the gap and stand clear of the doors and After it was recorded and they were sort of getting it ready to send it out The guy suddenly said I want royalties for every time
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah, you can't have that that's insane and he said no, that's that's my deal So they cut him off and they were going to rerecord it But they listened to the recording of the sound engineer Peter Lodge who was testing the microphones going mine the gap And they went that's good enough He was the he was the original voice of the London underground the sound engineer testing the microphones Famous thing in in London about the mind the gap announcement Maybe the station announcement at one station I can't remember which which is recorded by a guy who died a few years ago
Starting point is 00:06:51 And then they changed the recording because you know someone else got it They thought they jazzed up the station and the widow of the guy who died wrote to the station Didn't she and said please can you change that back? That's you know, the only time I hear my husband's voice Yeah, his name was Oswald Lawrence. It was in Bankman station It was on the northern line and they changed it back so she could always hear his voice Yeah Speaking of London, so there's Captain practical
Starting point is 00:07:24 So if you live in London, there's another job you can get which seems quite cushy it is to become a luxury product tester For that you get a 75,000 pound salary which is about hundred thousand US dollars and you get to test supercars yachts and private islands Wow, okay, so this morning I applied for this job Let's see this is where you look up jobs testing luxury islands I found out there is a man whose job is to watch paint drying as the real job He's and he's a real person. He's called Keith Jackson and he works for an industrial paint firm and Big part of his job is assessing the drying time of industrial paint
Starting point is 00:08:08 And that doesn't sound important does it He must be watching it the whole time, is he he might have a break he'll probably have a break Do you think paint is like a watch pot? Do you think it boils as soon as your back is turned? But no, the reason it's important that it happens is because sometimes you paint things and then you need to know How long the paint will take to be dry? So for example London underground Yeah, they can only be painted at stations between three o'clock and five o'clock in the morning And then it has to be dry enough to walk on so this is a very high-stakes situation Wow
Starting point is 00:08:50 The stakes are medium-low to medium the medium But he said he said people do love and find it amusing when I tell them what I do He said it could be described as the most boring job in the world But it is a very important one watching paint dry sounds quite easy, but it can be stressful at times So also while you're looking at jobs of watching paint dry, I was looking at jobs of watching pornography And apparently there's a nightclub in Denmark that's hiring someone to watch 20 hours of pornographic films for 2,500 pounds Equivalent and the reason is they want to select the best parts of the soundtrack that they'll make a playlist of that
Starting point is 00:09:33 They'll play in the nightclub bathroom Sure, that's the reason I've been looking at some kind of jobs that sound Some people who are kind of lazy at work So this obviously would suit this job at the train station would suit someone who's quite lazy at work There've been some good people who have been in the past. So there was a civil servant called Carlos Retio He was a Spanish civil servant. He skipped work for a decade He used to clock in at 7 30 in the morning and then he'd returned to work to clock out at 4 in the afternoon
Starting point is 00:10:06 So he's perfect for this station job. He took home a 50 grand salary and He then when he was caught and it was discovered that he'd just been skipping work for over 10 years He then admitted to it fine And then there was an art exhibition put on in the town that used a council venue and the exhibition was called Love for Valencia the works of a man who never worked and it was booked under what turned out to be a fake name and They discovered later it was put on by him this man who'd skipped work the whole time as kind of a peon to his own glory Having skipped work and there were paintings. There were sculptures and there were bronze busts of this man Succeeded in not working the council discovered that it was him who booked it and they cancelled it
Starting point is 00:10:52 But I discovered that he got no charges. He got no big fine. He was suspended from work not even fired Speaking of doing nothing There is a hotel with a or there was the hotel still exists But they used to have a suite called the checkout suite and if you did nothing and you use no internet Then you get the suite for free Okay, so it worked out how much internet you were using and how much work you were doing and if you use the time to just relax And do nothing they gave it you for free. This was the hotel Ballora, which is in Gothenburg Which is the hotel we're staying in at the moment?
Starting point is 00:11:30 So I spoke to the receptionist this afternoon And she said it ran for three months and every single person who went there managed to get it for free There must be something to the people of Gothenburg that just quite happy sitting around going We're just gonna chill. You know what if you've got a few sheets of slightly damp paint the time flies by Okay, it is time for fact number two and that is Chazinski Yes, my fact this week is that Ninjas sword sheets had removable tips. So if they ever had to hide underwater, they could use them like a snorkel to breathe That's so cool
Starting point is 00:12:12 So they brought the sword with them as well, right? Yeah, you do bring the sword That's the main thing, but it's basically being a ninja was all about kind of adapting to your environment It was like being a Sort of 15 17th century Japanese James Bond It really was they had all these gadgets and one of them was the sword and the scabbard They would use it like a snorkel because hiding underwater was the major part of being a ninja I'm finally hard to put this into words, but what? What so why would you need to be underwater?
Starting point is 00:12:46 So basically What a ninja was was it was sort of like the flip side of a samurai So samurai in Japan were very well respected honorable noble fighters and the ninja was the sneaky Mercenary agent they were very very looked down upon at the time they were around which and they were they had their hey 17th century in Japan and their function was basically espionage So they were spies and deception and surprise attack and covert methods And they did a lot of hiding and running away and one of their main ways of hiding was using the water So certain ninja texts from the time advised that in daytime hide underwater so as not to be seen
Starting point is 00:13:26 You just spend the whole day underwater And so you need this snorkel like thing on the end of your sword and so the scabbard end can double as a breathing tube One of the texts that I read advising ninjas said that the end of your scabbard If you had the removable tip taken off could also be a hearing aid or a megaphone It could also be used as a stepladder for climbing over fences. Oh, yeah Well, you'd sort of jab it into the wall and I think it might be what I imagine and this might be wrong because this just came out of my Imagination but you know like with a sod you have that like cross bit. Yeah, I kind of hide your hand Yeah, but if you turn it upside down, you could just step on it
Starting point is 00:14:08 Oh I thought you meant if you stabbed it into the wall you could bounce off the sword Yes, and I tell you a cool thing that ninjas could do So ninjas had incredible abilities according to the old text one of the thing they could do is they could tell the time of day By looking at a cat's eye So if you asked a ninja, what time is it and a cat was around they could look at the cat and They would study the pupil of the eye which changes during the day according to the Sun If they can't see the cat it's nighttime
Starting point is 00:14:45 What that didn't happen did it you would have to have a cat on you at all times It's more difficult to carry a cat around to know the time that it is to just guess the time But it would be a party trick as you would say They didn't go to parties their whole raison d'etre was concealing their identity You can't keep the cat under water They hate the water they can do that So patronized by these guys sometimes they could read cat's eyes and also So can we just do can't size actually change according to the I think they do very slightly because of the amount of likes on
Starting point is 00:15:37 That's not a reliable indicator of time is it because if you're in a dark room But it's midday and you look at the cat and the cat's eyes are massive you think oh great It's nighttime. I can leave my dark room. It's not it's midday. You're gonna be spotted immediately No, but this is a completely unworkable system It's like saying they have an ability or they don't go to 24 hours a day and must be a lie It's you know, they do it when a cat's around like that You know, I can do stuff on a cat around that I won't need to do when it's not around Um
Starting point is 00:16:18 This might be a good moment to mention that it's very difficult to study ninjas because there's a little side evidence There's a lot of rumor about what they could do So there are a few really really good texts like the book of ninja, which I'm sure down is drawing from here But a lot of people sort of playing the ninjas could fly or that they could read minds Or they could go invisible and that was all bullshit, but they could do but the rock narrowest at noon when you see their eyes Do you know one way they could tell the time which I thought was quite cool that was in one of the books And this is written in like the 1630s I think was they said way to see if time is passing if you're hiding at night to ambush is
Starting point is 00:16:57 Work out which nostril you're breathing out of because your nostrils So, you know how you're only ever breathing out of one nostril at a time And this walks around sporadically and the rule was that it stops around roughly every hour And so if you're aware that your nostrils have just swapped then I was gone by All right, all right ninjas synchronize your noses Yeah, there are some people who think that ninjas weren't really a thing like that they they didn't exist Nearly as much as is now believed by popular culture and the because there's so little evidence of it So there was a Japan expert from the University of Leeds who said that ninjas
Starting point is 00:17:40 actively didn't exist in the way So the kind of the thing of someone basically the idea of someone running around in black pyjamas is not Coherent as an idea because it will be very obvious so It's mostly agricultural land at this time in history Yeah, so you'd be dressed as a farmer if you were a ninja if you see a guy running around in black soaking wet pyjamas with a cat under his arm But I mean so there is lots of So he gave an example actually
Starting point is 00:18:21 So the year is 1600 two of your enemies are fighting a battle So you send a couple of guys dressed as farmers to the area to watch the battle and report back about what's happening That's ninja work. So that's the kind of a lot of it was more. I think observation then, you know, nunchucks and Yes, but it was extremely Saraptitious, so like historians that people tend to think are very trustworthy from that period recorded it There's a guy called Fuji Bayashi who recorded a lot of the ninjas methods and they were bound by a sort of spirituality which was ruled by five elements and these elements were wood fire earth metal and water and these all Represented different ways of fighting or hiding or getting away and they're really funny
Starting point is 00:19:02 So he recorded like the ways you'd use these different elements So in the water one it would be for instance You'd use your sword as the breathing tube or you would have to be trained to throw large quantities of duckweed on water That you think you might escape through later so that you could then hide among its leaves and float with them to safety Yeah, very clever I found a one that might be the an earth method if that's one of the elements So there's apparently a skill called Uzura Gakure which is curling oneself into a ball to look like a rock So you believe that one
Starting point is 00:19:43 But then there's someone who comes disguised as some paper and they can just Say Yeah, we're just saying that they don't carry animals with them cats with them But they did supposedly carry crickets with them boxes of crickets And the idea was if if they needed to go somewhere, but they were a bit noisy They could then release the crickets and the crickets would make crickety noises and then they could quickly Shuffle over to where they need to be. That's okay. How do they keep the crickets quiet? They keep them in a jar or box
Starting point is 00:20:17 This is this is much more plausible than the cat thing so far, so I'm they also used to wear fake children feet The ninjas so it is said I need to say it is said is rumored That's the ninjas used to wear on the soles of their shoes sort of either children's feet or an elderly woman's So the footprints in let's say the sand yeah Or like, you know, they're soggy feet coming out of the river be like oh a child must have been swimming in that So they wouldn't be deceiving to all it's true that American Cattle rustlers used to wear shoes which had like cow hooves on the bottom of them So you would think that it was cows that had gone past all horses rather than yet humans and in Bhutan
Starting point is 00:21:03 It said that yeti's can take their feet Backward so it looks like they've gone that way when in fact on that way I was really trying to help Okay, it is time for fact number three and that is my fact my fact this week is that one month before the French Spider-Man successfully climbed the second tallest building in the world He was hospitalized after falling from a seven foot tall traffic light Now this was to promote his climb of the second at what was at the time actually the tallest building in the world which was in Taiwan and
Starting point is 00:21:41 He was climbing this traffic light the photographer was there He slipped fell got 40 stitches was hospitalized and it jeopardized the actual climb itself They thought he might not be able to do it, but he did pull through And he is an urban climber. He is yeah, his name is Elaine Roberts and he is Online, I don't know the community that well, but when you see online He's sort of regarded as the greatest urban climber of our day. I mean he's in his mid fifties No, I think he's about 56 and he's still climbing extremely tall buildings It's amazing. Although he's bound for climbing in Britain. We don't like him
Starting point is 00:22:18 He was I feel kind of bad for him So he climbed the Heron Tower in London very tall skyscraper and he was arrested the moment He reached the top. I just feel so it took him over half an hour and Waited for him at the top He's only wasted half an hour. I think that's okay. You're right And then he's wasted the 20 weeks suspended jail sentence that he got Well, he also in 2012 he was spotted inside the shard building in London and the building's owners Subsequently obtaining junction preventing him from ever returning to their building
Starting point is 00:22:56 So he realized I'm on the wrong side He's lost it up the stairs going this is easy So he's climbed over 150 skyscrapers and one thing he says is that the first two meters are almost the most important Because after that the police can't grab your feet The police are often there waiting for him when he gets to the top of a building and I've read in interviews that the only thing He has on him is chalk for his hands as he's climbing and he wears special shoes But that's not quite true because I think what he also carries on him is his hat so so he knows what time it is Box of crickets so no one can hear him coming his climbing shoes are actually in the shape of an old woman's feet
Starting point is 00:23:47 Looks like the old woman climbed the south face of the building I know what he actually does carry with him is his passport and his lawyer's number And he just hands that to the police as soon as he gets there But it's quite a common thing like urban climbing It's something that there are quite a few heroes of urban climbing in 2016 There was a guy who got in trouble because he tried to scale Trump Tower and he spent three hours doing it He was using suction cups on his hands like handling his hands and feet in fact So it was a massive suction cups and he reached the 21st floor
Starting point is 00:24:21 But NYPD were desperately trying to catch him It was bizarre to watch so they kept on sort of smashing windows up the building to try and reach out to grab him and they couldn't get him They kept trying to impede his progress by climbing through air vents and stuff I think and they just couldn't do it and eventually they set up two massive airbags like mattresses in case he fell down Just below him and on the pavement and he was asked afterwards why he'd done it So there was this huge rigmarole took three hours reached the 21st floor and then the police sort of Sprung out of a window grabbed him and pulled him in said why not have you done that and he said look I'm just a political researcher, and I really wanted to meet Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:24:59 You know just we were talking about Alan Robert. Yeah, he has vertigo Really? He suffers from vertigo Vertigo is sort of feeling the urge to free yourself off a great height, isn't it? It's not fear of height No, this is a inner ear problem, which makes you dizzy and stuff. Oh, I thought then you've got the urge So you felt like the ground was coming towards you I think you feel very I think you feel very dizzy and you feel a bit unstable Yeah, he's had that since 1982 and he's still done it. Yeah He had it after he was showing students how to climb with his hands behind his back and then fell 26 feet off the wall
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah He's married with three kids And I read an interview with his wife because they said you must be you know, you know Freed out every single time he goes and climbs a building how are you feeling and she sort of kind of said well I knew what I was getting into really because when she first met him both of his arms were in plaster casts from a ball The one thing that defeated him in London in 2002 was the weather He got three quarters up the way of number one Canada Square in Canary Wharf
Starting point is 00:26:02 It was so cold wet and windy. He just got completely stuck and had to be rescued by a window cleaning left But it's got a long and illustrious history urban climbing which by the way it's called what it's got a number of names It could be called an edifice erine or stegophily So that's the official term for it And I really like the etymology of this so the Greek stegos is roof so it's love of roof So it's like climbing up onto roofs It's from the same route as what's like the other word that you'd assume is stegosaurus Yeah, it's in the same route as stegosaurus because that means roofed lizard because when they first found the stegosaurus
Starting point is 00:26:38 They thought people climbing up it They had a roof on top no it was So they thought that the plates on top of a stegosaurus would be horizontal rather than vertical So they thought that it had a roof over it. So it's called roofed lizard That's so cool. It is cool. But an urban climbing stegophily has a long history in Oxford and Cambridge University So the first urban climber was a guy called Jeffrey Winthrop Young who published a book called the Roof Climbers Guide to Trinity at College at Cambridge and it gave really detailed instructions on which routes to take up and then there was another guy called Noel Howard Simington who wrote one in 1937 again Nine Climbers Guide to Cambridge and his pseudonym was Whipple Snaith
Starting point is 00:27:22 And this is so weird the person who reviewed his book and wrote about the details of Climbing up Cambridge buildings was also called Whipple. He was called Tom Whipple So the modern-day Cambridge building climber is called Tom Whipple. I know Tom Whipple. No way Well, I don't know if it's the same Tom Whipple. I'm sure it will be. I know the circles you're moving Have you guys heard of the human fly Hang on, there's no anecdote to knowing Tom. Well, he's a journalist. Yeah, he is. He's a very nice guy. Tell us about the human fly. Yeah His name is Tom So, okay, we need to move on
Starting point is 00:28:03 So the human fly was a guy called Henry Gardner and he was one of the first really impressive Building climbers. He was in the 1910s and 20s. He climbed 700 buildings without gear frequently wearing a suit And he was paid to do it by companies to promote their offices in the news skyscrapers So in 1916 he climbed to the ninth floor window of a skyscraper Climbed into the window of a bank branch and opened an account at the bank That's what the stunts he did Um, or he would do that, you know, you open an insurance thing and he was he was really really famous We don't know what happened to him. He went missing in 1925. Oh, really? He probably fell off a building, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:28:44 If you were to guess, I'm afraid he might have done that. Robert guy does it for money now Doesn't he basically does it sponsored and he usually uses actual climbing gear and stuff like that but actually a lot of people do die so This Harry Gardner who was actually it was Grover Cleveland the president who nicknamed him the human fly apparently And he said that 120 of those who sought to imitate me in this hazardous profession have fallen to death So he was saying that that happened and people have looked into this scientists have looked into it There's been a study in 2006 and they said in every country there is an excess of male deaths due to potentially avoidable reasons According to their theory, this is what they quoted as saying men are idiots
Starting point is 00:29:31 And idiots do stupid things And on that note we need to move Onto our final fact of the show and that is James Okay, my fact this week is that in the early Eurovision song contests Songs could not be performed in public before the event One Danish song was banned after the composer whistled it in a TV broadcasters canteen This is incredible So yeah, this was in the bit where you had to become the Danish entry and there was six different songs
Starting point is 00:30:09 And this guy was just in the canteen having his lunch and he was just kind of whistling it to himself And then they did the actual thing where they performed it and the people they're going sounds a bit familiar Isn't it and then they got banned? Was he maybe secretly doing it to try and cede the tune of people's minds or if there's no suggestion of that You know what? I haven't thought of that. But yeah, I mean probably not Amazing song that they were like wait, that's the song I heard in that canteen a week ago What a shame it couldn't enter. Yeah, that's true. What a great whistler. He must be Whistling it's everyone is a better whistler than they are a singer
Starting point is 00:30:49 Well, it's easier to match a tune that you've heard whistling than it is singing There are some people who can't whistle right? I've met a few people who can't whistle, right? If you can whistle You are a better whistler probably Really what they've looked at that. That's not just your opinion. It's not just my opinion Can you repeat this tune sung or repeat it and it's because I mean, you know It's obviously much easier to make a tune on a musical instrument because they're specifically designed to match specific notes But muscles are just a bit less precise
Starting point is 00:31:44 When the Eurovision Song Contest first started Britain decided we didn't want to take part in this Eurovision Song Contest So we decided to have our own British Song Contest British popular songs and which was won by Dennis Lotus who was born in South Africa The thing that I don't really understand about Eurovision and I think it is bigger here than it is in Britain But it's the constant insistence every year that it's not political It should never be political and it's just about the music when it is so patiently political I don't understand why everyone doesn't embrace that So they're a bit like everything about the history of Eurovision in 2009
Starting point is 00:32:22 Though it was just after the Russia-Georgia conflict and Georgia had to withdraw its entry because the organizers had told them They had to change their lyrics and the title of the entry song which was we don't want to put in which is a very unveiled reference to Putin so yeah, and then it's back and forth all the time Yeah, there was um, it's when it first came it was supposed to bring Europe together But Turkey pulled out in 1976 because Greece were taking part, but then Greece pulled out in 1975 because Turkey were taking part Greece sent to Ireland in 2008 because they mentioned Macedonia and they sent to Finland in 2007 for being satanic
Starting point is 00:33:04 But then Finland sent to Israel in the same year for mentioning nuclear weapons and this year Israel's embassy Complaints of the Netherlands after they pardoned their Eurovision winner and Iran moved all of its diplomats from Azerbaijan in 2012 and protested it hosting the contest even though Iran's nothing to do with Eurovision And when Israel won in 1978 the TV show in Jordan told viewers that Belgium had won And in 1973 Portugal arrested the writer of its own song because they thought it wasn't fascist enough We're all friends together Do you know Salvador Dali was involved with the Eurovision song? Let's say 1969 the stage so it was in Madrid and the stage had this giant
Starting point is 00:33:56 Sculpture a metal sculpture on stage and that was designed by Salvador Dali But not only that he also designed their press material or the press packages Now he was a man who had trouble telling the time The 1978 one was particularly controversial, so it was 1978 was the one Israel won I think and during the contest it became obvious that Israel was going to win and most Arabic countries were Transmissing it on their TV stations and they cancelled the transmission as soon as it became obvious So they were just quickly flicked to another channel with no explanation
Starting point is 00:34:37 And actually you say that Jordan said that Belgium had won and they just replaced their transmission with a bunch of daffodils There was a you mentioned the British equivalent Yes, there was a Soviet Union equivalent as well, which was called intervision the intervision song contest and it only happened four times and We spoke about this before is this was the way that you voted it was that a lot of people didn't have Telephones in the Soviet Union So you had to turn on your lights if you like the song And you had to turn them off if you didn't like the song and they just measured the load on each country's electricity network
Starting point is 00:35:18 Determined how many points you got Amazing it was the wild west of songs of some contest So for example one entrant in those in those four years stayed on stage for 45 minutes Just kept going until they were removed The thing about that is that you had to someone else pointed this out in last class reading You had to sit in pitch dark for all the songs you didn't like You can't turn your lights on How miserable you don't like the song anyway also bizarrely Canada was an entrant in two of the I think four years that that was going
Starting point is 00:35:59 They have weird entrance like the fact that Australia is in Eurovision is obviously a bit weird And also a bit painful because they have the highest score on average the Australians So good we've been there in five times and then three of those five we've made it to the top ten Yeah, how many if you were? What did you come this year? I? Feel we're all on a loser against Sweden Yeah, do you know if you actually go to the Eurovision song contest what you what you have to do is adhere to Very strict rules about what can go in with you
Starting point is 00:36:35 So like most places you go to there's a list of things that are not allowed to be taken into a venue But with the European Song Contest it's things like helmets adhesive tape Golf balls are not allowed and shopping trolleys. They specify shopping trolleys This it just feels like that each year they're responding to one disastrous entry So I think about within the last decade the Greek team performed on a trampoline Did they yeah, so that I don't know trampolines on the list. No, I mean People coming it's not for the people. Sorry. It's the audience people There hasn't been something in the Eurovision subcater. It's just singing and hitting golf balls. It's the audience
Starting point is 00:37:22 The Russians who came second, I think a few years ago with that team of grannies Baked on stage Yeah, I mean it is a strange contest that was in 1985 the contest was held in Gothenburg It's such an easy way of getting a chair Shameless and the it was very popular amongst British viewers and a lot of people tuned in where you wouldn't really think they would do and that's because the Swedish entry was Entitled bra vibration Oh
Starting point is 00:38:09 Well for the people who are in this room, I believe it means good vibrations In 1997 Denmark's entry was a rap in Danish about a guy who had fallen in love with a woman from directory inquiries In 1918 Norway's entry was a song about the construction of a hydroelectric power plant Estonia in 2013 had a song which repeatedly just said the phrase a local man called Korsakov went to Latvia yesterday And in 2006 Lithuania had a song called we are the winners which just said we are the winners again and again And again and they came sick I want to know if they ever found the local man called Korsakov We're gonna have to wrap up guys
Starting point is 00:39:03 Well, okay one more thing. Yeah, the first person to get nil-poir as in no pints in Eurovision Was a guy called Jan Tegan from Norway Okay But he became a national hero because he got no pints and his song was number one for two months And remained in the top ten for three more months afterwards, and he also had the number one album called this year's loser Okay, that is it that is all of our facts Thank you so much for listening if you'd like to get in contact with any of us about the things that we have said over the course of This podcast we can be found on our Twitter accounts
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