No Such Thing As A Fish - 285: No Such Thing As Giving Birth Up A Climbing Wall
Episode Date: September 6, 2019Dan, James, Andrew and Anna discuss special mud for baseball, why YouTube was invented, and Brazilian caesarian section parties. Visit nosuchthingasafish.com for news about live shows, merchandise an...d more episodes.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of know such thing as a fish a weekly podcast coming to you from the qi offices in Covert Garden
My name is Dan Shriver
I am sitting here with Anna Chazinski Andrew Hunter Murray and James Harkin and once again
We have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days and in no particular order here
We go starting with you Andy. My fact is that major league baseball has an official mud
What do they do with this mud they rub it on their balls
Okay, and this is from a great article in sports illustrated, uh, which I you read for the article
I read for the I genuinely do
Um, so it's all it's a profile of this man called Jim Bintliff and he spends his life basically
Harvesting mud. He's one of the world's only paid
professional mud farmers
Do you think there are a lot of amateurs?
I know you're right. He's one of the I think no because you're not allowed to enter the mud olympics if you are professional
So a lot of people remain amateurs
He's issued his chance at that
It's true, but he's doing very well, isn't he? Well kind of yeah, so the major league baseball
They need 240,000 baseballs per season and every single one has to have the shine taken off it
So that uh, the pitcher can grip it better
Um, and he has this secret location where he harvests buckets of mud and he won't tell anyone
He won't tell anyone at all
So for example, he didn't even tell his wife until he'd been married for five years and they'd had two children together
Not even after the first child. Did he think it's probably okay to tell my wife that
Did she not wonder why he kept coming back with muddy shoes and and stuff?
It's covered in, covered in filth, yeah
She knows that he does it, but she doesn't know the location. Is that right?
Yeah, yeah, there's a particular bit of the Delaware River and he's the third generation of his family doing this job
Yeah, it's been going since the 30s hasn't it?
It's mad and he has these um, so he goes and collects it all at once, right?
So he'll go to the source the secret source and then he'll come back with a thousand pounds in weight of mud
And store it over the winter and then sell it to yeah, he cleans it as well
He cleans the mud. You don't want dirty mud, do you? No way
So he lets it sit and then he dilutes it and he strains it for six weeks
And he drains it and he has to be nice and smooth
And he used to just sell it in sort of buckets
But now he sells it in little plastic containers, but it is hand made mud as it were and he has alibis for if people
Actually catch him in the act of doing it
So he just makes stuff up like he needs it for his rose bushes or for bee stings
Poison ivy and so on
But how is no one following him to find out where this location is? Well, I think probably no one really cares
Because
Charlie what it is is basically he has the monopoly over this mud
And he could probably get it from somewhere else and no one's ever going to say anything
Or someone else could put the same mud in a pot without the brand and they probably won't be able to sell it for as much
Well, it's not a market that people are dying to get into
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, I guess
He doesn't earn a lot from it. It's very tragic considering. He's called it the market basically
Um, he makes about 20 000 a year in total from it. Oh my god
Like basically baseball must be in the billions and billions of dollars they make every year
So every team basically orders about four cans
And sorry, do we know why the team need this specific mud? Why aren't they getting elsewhere?
It's it's really good stuff
The main reason this isn't going to answer your question
But just to say the reason why you need it is because it's really hard to throw a brand new
Leather ball because it'll just slip out of your hands and actually, um, what happened was um back at the start of the last century
Someone actually died because a pitcher threw it and without the roughness
You can't control it and he threw it and it just hit someone in the head and they died
And so from then on they decided they needed something to rough it up. Oh my god
So jim bindliff is saving lives every baseball season. Yeah. Yeah, let's say that
And as you say the generations that this has gone through it's amazing. So it was started by lina blackburn
Um, and lina died in 1968
So he handed it to his friend then john has and this is where the family comes into it
The three generations john has then gave it to his son-in-law who's got a fantastic name burns bindliff
Um, and then burns bindliff gave it to one of his nine children who is now jim one of his nine children
And also he said I was the only one of the nine children who expressed any interest in the family
Blood business everyone else left the state for some reason. They all moved
They had eight children. They kept on saying come on surely. We don't need to have another
Can you just take on the family business? I think he's got one of his daughters interested in the trade now
So it might hit generation four. Oh no, has she hit adolescence yet?
Because I
I can imagine sort of a 10 year old finding that really cool. And by the time you're 18 you think actually dant. I'm going to be an actress
There's there's another trick for helping um your grip
So, um, this is for holding baseball bats as well
There's many tricks to help you have a firmer grip one of them is um, and this is done by quite a few players
Is to piss on your own hands. No. Yeah, this is an actual thing
So there was a news report recently from a Pittsburgh pirates picture called jamison tylon
And um, he had to he had to go off I think during a match because of a cut in his middle finger
It was really bad. It was an open cut. Right. So he was he was told why not pee on your hands because that toughens the skin
It will sting but it might get you back on the pitch
Um more like the pispurg pirates
More like that
Now there's no definitive truth. Wait a minute. So can I just ask you're saying not to help you pitch
You're doing it to stop the cut from is that right in this case?
They thought that the pee might heal the finger, but generally, um, if you want to toughen your hands
You should piss on them magic piss that just heals wounds instantly according to baseball players. We all do
Yeah, right just we into an empty nivia pot and it's basically the same
I think a few have done that because who because um, george passada who was a catcher. So george. What other?
george piss harder
george passada
And it's not normative determinism. It's perfectly normal
So he's a catcher and moises aloo as a hitter and they both avoided calluses because you get calluses if you play baseball a lot
Right by urinating on their hands. Sorry. I'm still a bit perplexed about the function of urinating on us
Is it to help you hold the bat? It's a moisturize basically, right?
Wow, and so they haven't heard of any moisturizers that are commercially available
But if you did get commercial
Moisturizer and you held on to the bat might slip out of your hand
So I suppose maybe it moisturizes without making it slippy
Yeah, possibly we can only speculate. I noticed you're always dropping your microphone whenever we're doing stage shows
So maybe this is something you could do sure sure sure. I just need a modesty screen at the side of the stage
You are allowed to put pine tar on your bat as well
So uh, it's tar from a pine tree
So you're allowed to put it on the handle bit of your bat so that the bat doesn't fly out of your hands
And that's another safety
Thing because you don't want to just have people throwing their bats all over the
Yes
Actually in american football
You're not allowed to put sticky things on your gloves
But people often do or often have and been caught so that you can kind of
Someone throws a ball at you or to you sorry and then you jump up to catch it
And then it almost just touches one of your fingers and somehow you manage to catch it
And that's explicitly against the rules but people have done it over the years
But what happens when you go to kick it and you try to drop the ball and you're just attached to your hands?
Or you go to shake hands for the opposition after the game or something
Just something about baseball in the olden days. Yeah, uh, so in until 1887
So baseball started like the start of the 19th century
But until 1887 when you came up to bat or whatever the baseball term is as a hitter to bat
Then you could request a high or a low ball
You could basically ask the pitcher to put it where you wanted it really you say can you put it sort of between my
Upper thigh and my lower thigh, please or whatever and they had to do that. Wow. Yeah, it makes it easy, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does actually quite a lot harder for the pitcher to aim it there
That's amazing. I mean they do still have to hit it in that little zone in your hitting zone, don't they? Yes
It's I always think that's a bit weird. Yeah
Well, you can't just throw it in the opposite direction to where they're just standing
Or a hundred meters in the air above their head. That's why my game's never caught on
Some stuff on mud. Oh, yeah. Yeah
So in the 19th century mud in the uk was a really big problem
Especially in the cities like london and it was always said that you could tell an englishman abroad
Because he would be the one wearing turned up trousers
Or any and it wasn't a fashion it was because if you didn't turn up your trousers you get mud on them
See
God when people see hipsters now when foreigners see hipsters do they think it's just because we live knee deep in mud?
They think oh, yes. I was thinking you might be a time traveler from 19th century london, but you're probably right
Maybe the hipsters all are that a lot of their features do speak to that
Oh, I've got one really cool mud thing. Do you guys know about the mud pot of california? Nope
So this is this amazing thing. It's a geyser basically, but it's a bubbling mud geyser
And it's called the nighland geyser
And it's just at the southern end of the san andreas fault and it remained totally still as you'd expect from a geyser until about
11 years ago when it started suddenly moving and then it got faster and faster and by 2015 this kind of geyser
This mud volcano called the mud pot was moving at 10 meters a year
And increasing in speed at one point it moved 18 meters in a single day
So this mud volcano is just encroaching across america is getting closer and closer to the union pacific railway tracks
And so they've had to build this massive wall
They built a wall that was 23 meters high by 37 long to try and stop it and it didn't stop it at all
It's just gone underneath the wall and it's gone out the other side and it's still encroaching on the railway track
No one knows how to stop it. They've tried everything. I have heard of that and they call it the slowest moving emergency in
In america don't they? Yes, I think it's technically a national emergency. It is technically a national emergency. Yeah
Sounds like a great b-movie. Well, it's like the blob the blob. Yeah. Yes
Yeah, it's dying for a hollywood film producer to pick it up
I like the way you said it's kind of encroaching across america when actually it's gone about 20 meters towards some train tracks
It's gradual but it will happen. Yeah, you have to look out for those gradual things
Exactly, you know, keep your eyes peeled for the encroaching mud. I have a fact about mud and sport actually
But a different sport completely so mud has changed the shape of football players
and
So so it's soccer players were talking. Yeah. Yes. So soccer players
Uh, these days have much less mud to contend with right true because there used to be lots of pitches
Which are called mud baths, you know, where it just gets churned up and it's just like that
So since they've had fewer pitches like that, which are just basically swamps the shape of footballers has been changing
And so they used to have to be just very muscular to deal with those conditions
You know just to run in that but now they're getting taller and leaner
Because they're just having to run a lot on this pristine grass that they've now got on the pitches. So that has literally changed their shapes
Interesting. Oh good. So Wayne Rooney is one of the last of his kind in many ways
He is yes, he would have done well in those in those swamps with him. Yeah
I mean, I'm not saying that he looks like shrek
I'm just saying that he's a very strong man. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he does look like shrek. He does a bit. Yeah
Okay, it is time for fact number two and that is chasinski
My fact this week is that in brazil women throw c-section parties where guests are served champagne and canapes
While watching the host have a caesarean section through a viewing window
And wow, that's a party. It's insane from the home of parties as well brazil
I know they have the greatest parties in brazil
Well, but I think if you're the originator of parties
Then you always have to think outside of the box and do things that seem insane to the rest of us
But these will be normal in 50 years. Exactly. They're just experimenting with the next great party craze
Do you get served the canapes?
But with a thick lid over them that you have to cut through and gradually extract like a sausage roll at a time from
That's what I would do. I would theme it like that. Good. Cool. Yeah. Thank you
You should be involved in caesarean party planning. Yeah, I think you'd be a welcome addition
So this is the thing that happens. It's quite a big deal caesareans in brazil
It's a bit of a status symbol. It's slightly about wealth and or they're also very common
So 56 percent of all births now are caesareans and 33 percent are elective caesareans
So people have just chosen to do that and that's compared to in the uk
I think only 10 percent are elective and even so that's like the highest in europe
And so it's a big deal because you are welcoming a new human to the world
So friends and family go to the hospital with the person who's going to give birth
And there's a gallery that's specially built for the purpose very often
So in salpaolo, I think there are a few of these and they even have frosted windows
And then the windows turn transparent at the moment of birth
So cool
So you don't have to watch all the boring stuff like they're being injected and having a panic attack
But you do get to see the baby emerging
I would think you would turn them translucent or opaque for the moment of birth itself
And it feels a bit personal
You don't see that, so I've been in the room for a caesarean section
My wife had one with our son
But weirdly that wasn't the one you were there for
No, it was me
But what they do is so obviously you don't see everything that's going on
They have a big sheet that hangs above the tummy
And you're on the other side of it with the top half of your wife
It's a bit like a magic trick because
Do you pick the half of your wife that you are there with?
Yeah, you can, I pick the top half
That's good, good on you
I should have picked the left half
And then the baby comes up and you see the baby
Once it's been removed come up through the top and I imagine that's the same with
With these viewing windows
I think you can see the whole thing happen
But it's not, I mean, I was reading a very funny entry in the Harvard Guide to Women's Health
Which is just a very detailed description of all the ways you can give birth
And one of them says
A screen is usually placed between the woman's upper and lower body
So she does not have to view her internal organs
I think I feel like we're missing the most amazing bit of this story
I didn't realize we had windows that could go from frosted to translucent
That is the most amazing bit of the story
That's extraordinary
It's just it's just a beautiful wonderful thing, isn't it?
You never really know until you see a window go from opaque to translucent
Really what a wonderful wonderful thing it is
In the very sadly in the poorer hospitals in Brazil
They just have lots of nurses who breathe incessantly on the windows
And then they wipe them clear
You know in the really rich hospitals
You can change the furniture in the hospital suite
If it clashes with the decorations that you've got planned
There wasn't quite opulent ones
Wow
Fair enough
They're actually designing a new one I think in Sao Paulo
Which is going to be a 22 story high maternity ward
And it's going to have a very tall woman giving birth
Or who intend to sort of project their baby up to the air
No this is going to have a wine cellar and a ballroom
Very cool
There's one woman on the planet
And I think only one woman who has given herself a caesarean
Okay
Wow
I know she's a lady called Ines Ramirez Perez
She's Mexican and this was in the year 2000
She had six children already
So she had given birth before
And her husband was at a restaurant
Which didn't have a phone unfortunately
So she decided right
I'm just going to go for it
And she literally cut into her abdomen to give birth to the baby
Wow
She had experience butchering animals apparently
So she sort of she knew what she was doing
That was amazing
She drank pure alcohol didn't she to numb the pain
Surgical spirit
What was wrong with the old
Through the vagina
Normal exit
Well sometimes that doesn't work out
Okay so
For various reasons
Yeah okay so
I don't know why she
I think I don't know if this was her first choice
Yes
It probably wasn't her first choice
Give herself a caesarean at home
She probably tried the vagina thing first
You're right I should have
Considered that maybe
Or was it she
It wasn't
Maybe maybe she did this as area
Then she looked down and thought
Oh what the heck is she saying
I've already got an opening down there
Oh I'm such a mug
You were saying who
Someone was saying
That she had a history in agriculture
Butchering
Butchering yeah sorry
Well actually the first known woman to survive a C-section
Was the wife of a pig castrator
Yaku Nuta
And that was in the 1500s
This is the first documented account we have
And apparently his job of castrating pigs
Helps him to know a lot about anatomy
And he managed to take the baby out
And then sew her up and she was fine
So he did it
Yeah and she had five more children
Including a set of twins afterwards
Wow
Although the source I saw it in did say
Some sources question the reliability of this story
Because it was first written about nearly a century after it happened
But it's usually accepted as the first C-section
Where the woman survived
This whole sort of craze of having relatives and friends
Watching giving birth
So that isn't a new thing at all
It was done, we know it was done in France
In 1778 Marie Antoinette
She had a whole crowd come bursting through the door
As soon as it was announced that she was giving birth
And was almost crushed to death
They were holding up bits of wool
What?
Yeah, so when she was giving birth
200 people ended up being in the bedchamber
That's stressful
To witness the event, yeah
So there was an obstetrician yelled out
The Queen is going to give birth
And that's when the hordes of people started coming in
But this happened all the time
So Queen Mary in England
The wife of James II
She was giving birth in 1688
And that was what the century before
And there were 67 people in the room
Which she thought was far too many
And she actually asked
She was so embarrassed that she asked the King
To put his wig over her face
So she couldn't see
Is that the bit she wanted to hide?
Well, I guess it meant she didn't have to look
At the 67 people in the room
Yeah
And if you put it on the other part
Then the baby's going to come out
With a hilarious wig on its head
Well, that would be amazing
There was an interesting theory about
The conspiracy theory was born off the back of this
Which is the
And this was put out by the Protestants
They thought that the baby was stillborn
And that another baby had been snuck in
Yeah, because
And that's why you would have people who saw the birth
Right?
Because then you knew that it wasn't going to be
You knew that it was a proper birth
Yeah
But despite the 67 people in the room
There were theories put around that
The baby had died and then been replaced
By the baby of a nursing maid
So all of that kerfuffling
All of the having a wig over your face
While you're giving birth
Still didn't kill off the conspiracy theory
There was a theory that had been smuggled in
In a warming pan
Which is like a hot water bottle
Equivalent
And as a result there was a tradition
Where you would have to have someone sort of witness
That the actual royal baby was the royal baby
So when Queen Elizabeth II was born
Our current queen
That was part of the thing
There was someone standing outside
Isn't it like the home secretary?
It's the home secretary
So it would now be said to Javid
Just sort of lingering in the room
I thought that was for all royal babies
Or is it not?
Is it?
I think it's for quite a lot
So I thought that stopped though
I thought it stopped with
Well it did stop
But the home secretary was there
Not said to Javid
The then home secretary was there
When Queen Elizabeth was born
And then in 1948
She herself was pregnant
And they were debating
Should we invite the home secretary?
We've got a long guest list already
Do we have the seating space?
So she wasn't involved in
She was then Princess Elizabeth
And she was not involved in the discussion
It was the king George VI
Talking to his personal secretary
Saying should we have the home secretary along?
And Elizabeth said
I think we should have him along eventually
She was piped up and said
No, it's important
So they invited him
But then
Awkwardness of organisms
Though the king's secretary
His private secretary
Bumped into the Canadian High Commissioner
And the Canadian High Commissioner said
Oh I hear there's going to be a baby
I assume you're inviting
Representatives of all the dominions
What?
And then
So that meant there would then have to be
Seven ministers
Who would probably be sitting in the corridor outside
They wouldn't actually be in the room
But they decided
No, we can't have everybody
So it just was a party that got out of hand basically
So that's when they said
No, no more home secretary
So you didn't get to go
Do you know that there's no good reason
Why we would give birth lying down?
And I know a lot of people don't
There are various different positions
But the established position
For thousands of years
Was in a chair
So a birthing chair
And you see birthing chairs
Since 1450 BC
So they've been around for like 3,500 years
Makes sense
They look, it does make sense
They're gravity helping
Yeah
Precisely
And it's actually kind of more comfortable
Is there a
A hole in the chair?
Yeah
That's even clever
I know
I think about it now
Yeah
They look like a toilet seat
But quite an ornate nice toilet seat
Because you don't want to sit on an actual toilet seat
While you're giving birth
And apparently it replaced the tradition of
Sitting on your partner's lap
Or your birthing partner's lap
While you were giving birth
Which I think sometimes people find useful
And lying down
There's no particular reason
That's any better at all
The only reason lying down was introduced
Was in the late 19th century
Which is this big change
In childbirth practice
When it went from being a female thing
To a male thing
So traditionally men just weren't in the room at all
Oh sorry, right
I thought it was still a female thing
Okay
Oh, you've got a real shock coming with you
Yep
Right through that Eurethra mate
But just to add a sort of modern birthing
I don't want to make a sweeping statement about this
But from what we were told
And from people I know who give birth
It's not really
It's kind of a Hollywood thing
That you think people give birth on their back these days
Most are sitting up
Most of these beds are put into a sit-up position
And that's how birth is happening
Yeah, you tend to see that propped up
I think in films even
But it wasn't thought that you would do it
Without your legs on the ground
Sitting on your wooden chair
And the only reason then you would put on a bed
And leaning back a bit is because
Birthing changed from being a female thing
To a male thing
Where a male doctor was let in
Because females weren't doctors
And then they had to see inside the vagina
To see what was going on
So it's just to make it easier for the doctor
That they can see right up inside you
It's actually quite fun when you go into rooms these days
Because it looks a bit like an escape room
They have like
I love escape rooms
I mean you and James
And there is an ultimate escape happening
For the little guy inside
It's like escape the womb
Yeah, escape the womb
Exactly
And they have so
They have bits on the wall
That if imagine you were climbing a wall
A rock climbing wall
They have that so that women can hold on to it
They just need to move around and do
They have bouncy balls everywhere
Was that the NNHS?
And they had a climbing wall
They don't have a
Yeah, she gave birth 20 feet up
Wow, you had actually a baseball backstop
To catch the baby
Have you heard of subfumigating?
No, but let's guess what it is
Fumigation is something to do with smoke
Yep
And sub means below
Yeah
So do you blow smoke below yourself?
Pretty close
Is it blowing smoke up a woman's bottom
To get the baby to come out the vagina?
I think that perhaps
Surely that's not how biology works
It's not how biology works
You're absolutely right
But it's kind of
It's not so far off weirdly
So this is an Anglo's accent thing
Where you have a pregnant lady and you want her to give birth
So you get a load of disgusting stuff
Like cat poo and shavings of horses' hooves and fish eyes
And you burn all of these on a big fire
And then you bring in the mother to be
And the idea is that her womb is so disgusted by the smell
That it contracts and it pushes the baby out
Wow, do we think it maybe works in some way?
Don't know
I imagine at the time they did
I imagine at the end of it they went
And that, my friends, is how biology works
Wow
I don't know if it worked
I can't think of how it might, but
I guess a strong physical reaction
Like a smelling salt, but for a womb
Like you would wretch to see your muscles
Yeah, it might make your muscles contract
Let's not try to justify sort of 2,000-year-old Bob Barrett practices
You never know who's going to start bringing them back in
I'm a feminist, but I really love the old
Plume up the vagina
Okay, it is time for fact number three
And that is James
Okay, my fact this week is that when Samuel Johnson visited Paris
He worried that his French wasn't good enough
So he spent the whole time speaking in Latin
So this is Samuel Johnson of Dictionary fame
And this is from an article in Oxford University Press
Which is more about why elitist politicians
Such as Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg
Often drop Latin into their conversations
And it's by a guy called Gordon Campbell
Who is a fellow in Renaissance studies at the University of Leicester
So we'll get onto Samuel Johnson later
But basically what he's saying is that during the Renaissance
This became a really, really common thing all over Europe
And it's what kind of brought rich Europeans together
And quite ironically now it's the British politicians
Who aren't particularly keen on Europe
Who are often dropping Latin into conversation
And it all comes from the fact that they old British universities
Had this kind of pro-European stance
Well the Renaissance was all about a revival of classical everything
Of classical everything
That's why Renaissance it was the rebirth of that era
It was kind of throwing out the middle ages
And saying we want to go back to the classical times
Yeah
And so he actually spoke Latin or by his account
Or was it by Boswell's account that he talked about it?
It was by Boswell's account
And yeah of course we can't trust everything that he said
But it's like his official biography
So it's where we get most of our information about Johnson
And he said that while he did go into France
And spoke Latin with what he called wonderful fluency and elegance
His English pronunciation meant that no one understood the word he was saying anyway
I read a blog called Latin Language Blog
It's someone who just loves writing about modern day usage as well as old
And he did a list of people who are alive today
Who can speak Latin
A sort of a list of people you wouldn't expect
Who could
You know pen and teller the magicians
There's the silent one and there's the one who
The silent one could speak every language on earth
But he just never says anything
Exactly
It is actually him who can do Latin
He's not silent
That's the thing he's just trying in his head to work out the right verb ending
That he needs
Tom Hiddleston who is Loki in the Thor series
In the Avenger series
And Loki, Loki's a Latin word
Exactly
Yeah
Isn't it Norse?
No, as in Loki as in a place
Like a
Yeah
Sorry
Yeah
Come on, you actually studied Latin, didn't you?
Yeah, I just didn't realise that you were speaking about him in the
Nonditivoc, accusative
And then two more Robocop
The person who played Robocop
Yeah, Peter Weller
He teaches Roman and Renaissance art
And he supposedly can write or he studied Latin
And lastly, 50,000 people in Finland
Oh, he buried the lead there
What do you mean?
Well, Finland, there's a lot of people who do
In fact, a thing that we're writing in our upcoming book
Is about how a radio show there used to do news bulletins in Latin
And it's because there are 50,000 people there
Who can understand what's being said
Samuel Johnson
Yeah
Yeah, yeah
So Samuel Johnson was a great character really
And quite a lovable guy
He had all sorts of habits that I didn't know about
So most famous obviously for his dictionary
The maybe the most influential dictionary ever
In the English language
But as a person, he had these strange ticks
So he had really ritualised movement
So for instance, when he was walking through a door
Before he did so, he had to do this weird whirling and twisting motion
And then perform multiple ritualised gesticulations
And then apparently, according to someone who knew him
As soon as he'd finished, he would give a sudden spring
And make such an extensive stride over the threshold
As if he were trying to wager how far he could stride
And this was what he would do repeatedly
He was very, very sort of superstitious
Or some people expect they now he had OCD or something
Some people think he might have had Tourette's
I think
Some people think he had Tourette's
He talked to himself a lot
He used to collect orange peels
Did he?
Yeah, no one fully knew I
They think probably medicinal purposes
There might have been a craze
Or an idea that it could have helped you in some sort
But yeah, we don't really know
But we do know he collected orange peels
It could just be this slightly obsessive tendency he had
Touching every lamppost as he walked along Fleet Street
Lots of things like that
Did he?
Yeah
Yeah
I mean, it's hard to know if he just did that once or twice
And then, you know, or if he collected an orange peel once
Or if he was Europe's foremost orange peel collector
I mean, we just don't know
I was reading his dictionary
Great
I wasn't
I was reading someone who's read his dictionary
It was an article by them
But there's quite a few fun definitions in there
That I never appreciated
So, for example, sock was something put between the shoe and the foot
Very sort of basic description
But then he would say stuff like for lizard
He would describe it
The definition would be an animal resembling a serpent
With legs attached to it
Like just sort of
That does, that tells me what a lizard is
It's that, exactly
And my favorite one, urinator
What do you think he defined a urinator as?
A baseball player
Very good grip
Yes
No, it's, it was a diver
Someone who searches underwater
And a diver was a urinator back in the day
Yeah, so in this context, this article says
Urinator derives from urini
A Latin word to mean to dive
There are lots of words that didn't get into the dictionary
In his dictionary
Yeah, so you know there's a whole Blackadder episode
About him leaving out the word sausage
Yes
So there, he only, he has 42,000 words in his dictionary
Which is obviously massive and a huge labor of love
But at the time, the English language had between 250 and 300,000 words
So he missed out loads, he missed out loads of biggies
Which were in big use, like nemesis, banknote, zinc, euphemism
Yeah, I can see the look on your face as you go down this list
And you're thinking, was big use the right phrase, was it?
Where's the biggie here?
Anus, Anus didn't get in
Anus?
That's a biggie
That's a biggie
Yeah, zinc, he would think he would do
Because you'd think he'd be struggling for zest
Well, there were no X words in his dictionary
We're there, he just completely missed the letter X
Yeah, and that was actually something of an improvement
Because previous English dictionaries
Missed W, X and Y altogether
Yeah, so he actually, he was improving by
Missed W
Yeah, that's it
That is a quite a big letter
Yeah
That's an enormous letter
Yeah, well, I and J were combined in Johnson's dictionary
They were all muddled up
But that's true in the old English, isn't it?
It was more recent that J became a letter
So maybe they spelt the W words with a U or with a V
Yes, yeah
You mentioned Blackadder as well
So in the episode of Blackadder, there's a big joke
So Samuel Johnson's in the episode, he's just finished his dictionary
And Blackadder tries to pick out words that aren't in there
And the thing he picks out famously in the episode is Ardvark
Ardvark's not in there
And it wasn't in Johnson's dictionary
But it's not a word he missed out
Because it didn't enter the language until the year after he died
Just a few more words that are in that book in the dictionary
And that's Ifaris
Which means producing ducks
Nice
Okay
Don't know what that means, what that's about
He had a thing about ducks
He wrote a poem about ducks
Or a short, I think he did a very easy word to rhyme with, isn't it?
It is
And he had a filthy mind
He also was the first, one of the reasons the dictionary was so famous
And such a trendsetter in the dictionary world
Was because he was the first person to use citations, to use quotations
As examples of where words could be used
And he used these really imaginatively
So for fart, the word fart
It was written as fart, noun, wind from behind
And then with the poem by a guy called John Suckling
Who I hadn't heard of
Which goes, love is the fart of every heart
It pains a man when tears kept close
And others doth offend when tears let loose
That's a great, it's a lovely poem
It's a lovely poem
That's good
Suckling was great
What's he?
Is he good?
He was one of a group called the Cavalier Poets
Who were active around the time of the Civil War
And they were royalists obviously
But they all had great names like Suckling and Lovelace and Carey
And they had all these very romantic names
Just one more thing on Samuel Johnson
He was such a nice guy
So I had no idea that he lived in this kind of commune
That he built up of people who were destitute
And suffering in life
So he had all these friends from various walks of life
He lived with a blind woman called Mrs Williams
Who actually he would take to various places
And who he looked after and he funded her life
He lived with someone called Robert LeVet
Who was basically his best friend in life
Who was a guy who was a sort of a
Claimed to be a doctor
But worked as a waiter in Paris
And eavesdropped on doctors conversations
And become kind of an apothecary
And didn't know what he was doing
He had Francis Barber
Who was sort of like a son to him really
But he was a black boy
And this was in the mid 1700s
And Johnson left all of his money and his property to him
And that was quite controversial
And the other people who lived with him thought
You know, how come you're treating him like
One of us like we're on an equal level
And Johnson would say
If he ever needed anything
Johnson would insist that he
Johnson would go out and get it
And would never let anyone tell Barber to go out and get it
And yeah, he sort of collected these people
Who were treated badly by society
Lived with them all
Funded all of their lives
Apparently very rude to people
Of his own social standing
But anyone who had suffered in life
He took them in
Very cool
That's nice
He had a patron who did not patronize him very well
His patron gave him £10 once
And that was it
Wow
I would say that is quite patronizing
It is
Okay, it is time for our final fact of the show
And that is my fact
My fact this week is that
YouTube was created
Because one of its founders
Couldn't find an online video
Of Janet Jackson's breast
Being exposed at the Super Bowl halftime show
That's amazing
So what I find really interesting about YouTube
Is it's not
That old
No
Right
It's not
Maybe that's just me being old
But it's like
There was quite a lot of internet
Before YouTube came along
And it's amazing
Because it just seems like
It was ubiquitous your whole life
Yeah
2005
That's when we got YouTube
And so the Super Bowl was in 2004
There was this big moment
I don't know if you guys remember it
But it was a big moment
It lasted a very quick
The timing of it is so tiny
Of how much time her nipples spent on screen
But it's nine sixteenths of a second
Is it?
I know that through looking it up
Not through creepily looking it up
Not on your VHS pausing it
Yeah
But yeah so
It was one of the co-founders
Who was called Jawid Karim
Who was looking for this video
Couldn't find it
And thought there needs to be a better way of it
Now there was a second reason
YouTube was created
There are three creators in total
The other two are Chad Hurley and Steve Chen
And they both were trying to upload a video
When they were at a dinner party
And found that impossible to do as well
So the three of them got together
And said there has to be a better way about this
And that is how YouTube came about
It's not the only effect that Super Bowl moment had
So I think lots of people were
Surprised by what they'd seen
And they wanted to find a way of watching it again
So Tevo subscriptions
Where you could pause and rewind TV
They jumped exponentially
And you know the DVR
Where you could record things from TV
On a hard drive into your home
That became a thing as well
So yeah there were other consequences
But YouTube is probably the biggest by a long way
You know
Yeah
The first video ever on YouTube
Was by this guy Javid Karim
And it was called Me at the Zoo
It lasted 18 seconds
And it's just him in front of some elephants
Saying the cool thing about these guys
Is they have really, really, really long trunks
Does he say it like that?
Pretty much
And then he goes
He doesn't do it in a Bolton accent
In his American accent
And then he goes
That's pretty much all there is to say
And if you think about the historical things
Like the first things like
Come here, Watson, I need you or whatever
You know the first things that have ever been said
In various media
And that was the first thing that was ever said on YouTube
Yeah
And all it makes me think is
He's not a man after our hearts
Because that is absolutely not all there is to say
About elephants
No
No
And every time I watch that
They have big ears as well
But it definitely is
He has no social media though
Like a lot of them
So Java Karim has no social media at all
I don't think
Except for his YouTube site
Where what do you call it
When you have a YouTube profile
His page
His channel
Channel
Thank you
YouTube channel
Where I think he's only ever posted that one video
And I think he dangled the prospect of another video
In the last year or so
And people are very excited about that
He's going to show them the giraffes
They have really, really, really long
Tongues
Ah, you didn't think I was going to say that, did you?
But yeah, actually he did return to the comments page of that video a while ago
To make a big point as well
Because he's one of the three owners that kind of stepped back from it
No one really knew that he was part of the ownership of it until it was sold
And then it suddenly emerged that this guy was getting a huge cut of it
People obviously knew it
But they weren't the Zuckerberg names that were associated with it
Chen and Hurley
I don't actually know that well either
But people did recognize them as the creators
And it was the fact that they tried to change the comments on YouTube
To be that you had to have a Google account in order to do it
A Google plus account
You could only comment then
And he didn't have one
So he left a comment under his first video
The first ever video published on YouTube to say
What the fuck is this?
I don't have
He used the F word
Really?
He used it, yeah
I mean considering they bought you
Google bought YouTube off them for $1.65 billion
And he made something like $67 million off it
It feels like it's the least he can do
Let them do that
It's amazing
That was about 20 months from the first video being uploaded
To being sold for $1.5 billion
It was huge
And initially there was so little on there
That you couldn't pick what videos you wanted to watch
It just played them automatically to you
How weird is that?
So like because let's say there's a hundred videos
You just had to cycle through the hundreds
Yeah basically
And there was so few on there
That he, Kareem, put up lots of videos
Which he'd taken of 747s taking off and landing
Because there was just nothing on the site
There were so few videos there
They posted adverts on Craigslist in LA and Las Vegas
Offering women $20 to put videos of themselves on the website
Partly because they thought it would be a dating website
They did
So it was meant to be a sort of follow on from hotornot.com
Which I can't believe is that
Oh this was the follow on from that
But do you remember that site?
I don't remember that
No
Oh wow
I'm not
Is the answer
So hotornot.com was basically where you could upload photos of people
And then other people could rate how hot or not they were
It was not very woke
And neither was the idea that conceived YouTube
So that was when they first came up with the idea of YouTube
Was when they thought
Well let's make a video version of this
Because hot or not was revolutionary in a way
We had no idea about at the time
But I think it was basically the first instance that
Anyone could upload their own content
And share and rate each other's content
Isn't it amazing that we had Facebook initially started with Zuckerberg
Doing the thing where it compared female university students
Face mash it started out as
And I think that was partly inspired by hot or not as well
Right
So hot or not sport helped us spawn these two huge things
Yeah but then do you remember ages ago on the podcast
We did the fact that IMDB was set up originally to log actresses with beautiful eyes
So all of these big things that we have are actually these
Provey men
Well when they put up the advert on craigslist asking women to put up videos of themselves for $20 each
Not a single woman replied
And it was it was not hugely successful at first
Just because there was so little on there
And it only got big they went to a Silicon Valley party
And they met a former PayPal executive
Because the other two founders used to work for PayPal
And he said this sounds interesting tell me more about it
So they went to the bedroom of the host of this party
They turned on his PC
And they watched every single video on YouTube
Which at the time took half an hour
How long do you think that would take now
It would probably be like the end of the solar system right
I think it's something like they upload 100 hours of footage
People upload 100 hours footage every minute
Yeah so I'm really so actually it would go on forever forever
Yeah it's it's definitely yeah
That would have been a very different party
I was reading they did a list of which countries watch YouTube most per day
Okay
And I'm so annoyed at myself I didn't get a timestamp on this
So I can't tell you what year this was
But I assume it must be recent at least since 2005
Sure
What country do you think came at the top of the list
Is it absolute ours or is it per person
90 million daily views is what the
Okay so I would say like India or China or something
Indonesia
I wouldn't say China
Maybe big country lots of people
Saudi Arabia
Yeah came at the top of the list
Because it's said there are so many restrictions on other websites there
They don't get Facebook, Twitter
This is their place for entertainment
This is where they go
Well it is the third biggest channel in the UK
As in you've got BBC one, ITV and then the next biggest one is YouTube
And the next biggest one is Netflix
And then you've got Channel 4 and Channel 5
And BBC 2 and all that kind of thing
So the average British adult watches 34 minutes of YouTube a day
Compared to 37 minutes of ITV and 48 minutes of BBC one
And I reckon if you went to under 30s
Then it might be number one or number two
Yeah
After number three
Have you guys heard of Petitube
No
Can you guess what it is
Okay
It's not a creepy thing
It's a small version of YouTube
Because it's Petit
Is it a YouTube just for Philip Petit
The guy who climbs across
Go back one
You're closer with your privacy
Is it only really really
So it's videos of really small things
Like thimbles
That's really like thimbles
Thimbles are small
That's a first small thing I can think of
Let's get one of those giant thimbles there these days
No it's okay
Over a third of YouTube videos have fewer than 10 views in total
Right
So there is a website called Petitube
Which only links onto videos which have had no views at all
And you can click and refresh and there are quite a few
That's a really nice idea
Most of them are just clips of like family birthday parties
Or somebody filming their kid for 10 seconds
But you know how to pronounce indelicate
I clicked on
There's a clip of a pony eating grass for 10 seconds
But these things will no longer be on that site right now
Because you've watched it
I think they get taken off
Although a couple of them had two or three views
So I thought I might have been played
But they are
I mean it's quite sweet and quite weird
But also they are very very boring
Yeah
Unsurprisingly
You know how YouTube has a lot of meme stars
You know internet meme stars
So let's say one that died this year
Grumpy cat for example
Keyboard cat was a big YouTube star
We all know keyboard cat
So it's quite a big thing
The paws are going up and down on a keyboard
As if they're playing it
And then there's music in the background
It looks like it's the one with the stiff limbs
When the stiff limbs is playing a piano
But it's not really playing a piano
Yeah
But keyboard cat is dead
What?
Yes
He died or she died in 1987
No
18 years before YouTube was invented
What?
No
Plotlessed
Even I'm amazed by this
And I only just heard of keyboard cat
This is like the sixth sense of cat videos
That's amazing
Yeah
So how has this cat appeared on YouTube?
The video was taken in 1984
The year I was born
And it was uploaded in 2007
So it's like basically in 10 years time
If they invent a new kind of medium
Where there's holograms that appear on tables
And entertain you
And then Dan is the most famous hologram entertainer
Because they use some of the videos that you've done
And you become massively famous
But you're...
Well actually
When has Dan died?
Yeah sorry
Dan's got seven years to live in this scenario
Oh god
I meant to say you don't look so well today
I suddenly don't feel it
I think...
That is amazing
I think you'll admit that similarly got out of control James
From the start it was overambitious
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