No Such Thing As A Fish - 37: No Such Thing As The Kevin Olympics

Episode Date: November 28, 2014

Episode 37 - Dan (@schreiberland), James (@eggshaped), Andy (@andrewhunterm) and Anna (#getannaontwitter) discuss volcano cremation, the world's oldest spider web, prison newspapers, the emergency Olympic Games, and what happens if you kill the pope.

We ran it on QI a few years ago, which was there's no such thing as a fish. There's no such thing as a fish. No, seriously, it's in the Oxford Dictionary of Underwater Life. It says it right there, first paragraph, no such thing as a fish. Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Covent Garden. My name is Dan Schreiber, I'm sitting here with Anna Andy Murray and James Harkin. And once again, we've gathered around the microphone with our four favorite facts from the last seven days. And in no particular order, here we go.

Starting with fact number one, and that is Chazinsky. Yeah, my fact this week is that in 1874, there was a plan to transport dead bodies from all over Europe to Mount Vesuvius and throw them in. Was this the plan of a supervillain? Well, maybe, maybe. So it's reported in a couple of newspaper articles from the time. There's one article in the Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough, which describes how an American company has got some capital to erect railways or like have trains running all over Europe. And it takes people who have died who want to be cremated in Mount Vesuvius,

and it runs them up Mount Vesuvius, and then it tosses them into the burning lava below. And this, so I can't find any modern evidence of this. I can't find that the company ever happened, but it seems strange that it would only be reported in the Middlesbrough Gazette. It's also reported in the New York Times in the same year. Okay, so it just tilts you in as the train passes, it just sort of tips the carriages over the edge, and then they tilt back on. Well, I think the train probably stops at the top because in the other article, it mentions that there would be some sort of a chapel built at the top of Mount Vesuvius,

where you could have a small funeral service before tipping your family member into the... It'd be better if the tracks went actually over the caldera and then just tip them out as it was done. Or just like if the bottom just opened up, you just drop them out. Is there always lava at the bottom? No, there's not. See, that's a weird thing that they always say with throwing people into volcanoes. I like that. This is what they always say. If there's an active volcano, the fumes from a volcano are enough to kill you. So anyone trying to throw someone into a volcano would die immediately, purely just off the back of a tree.

No, no, you could do it at a certain point. So there was one more source, which from 1878, which was just before Vesuvius had an eruption, I think, and it was like Vesuvius was getting ready. Is this in the Helliga that? The West Lothian Butte. They were very European, the local papers. And I think it was sort of bubbling and waiting to erupt. And that's the ideal moment, that's when you want to catch it.

There's a really funny letter that was written to the New York Times around this time about this idea. And it says, It's recently occurred to certain thoughtfully ingenious persons that the constant fire maintained in the crater of Vesuvius generates an enormous amount of heat, which is wholly wasted. Occasionally, a native Italian has inadvertently slipped into the volcano and has vanished so suddenly and completely that not even a trace of garlic could be sent in the air. And nothing but a silent hand organ and a bereaved monkey remain to recall the fact that a citizen of free Italy had flashed into flame and dissipated in the gases.

And it goes on, because it's not just races against the Italians. This is the New York Times. Even the stoutest British tourist who has toppled into the crater while searching for a good place to boil a tea kettle has disappeared before he could fairly mention his purpose of writing to The Times newspaper and denouncing the neglect of the local authorities to rail in the crater. Well, to be fair, they've got us to a tea, haven't they? Yeah, they've nailed us, yeah. Tea drinking and whining.

I know sometimes we think journalism is always getting worse, but I think there we have definite proof that it sometimes gets better as well. I don't know. I think it's quite amusingly reported. Garlic is an Italian trope, an Italian fill-in, and not even his baguette and stripey jersey remained on the outside. I thought his trademark beret. There's just one more part from this letter, which is good, and which the newspaper article reports as well, which is one of the advantages of this service, this funeral service, is that mourners who have seen the remains of their loved ones comfortably

cremated in the finest natural furnace in Europe can straightaway distract their minds and delay their grief by enjoying the view from the summit of the mountain and making a subsequent visit to all points of interest in Naples and the vicinity. And the newspaper actually reports that the train ride would come with a voucher to spend in Naples once you've got there. That's very awesome. I think this is really cool, speaking of magma. So there's a new project to see if we can drill further than we've drilled before into the earth and see if we can get basically to where the magma starts. And isn't it weird that the furthest we've ever sent an object away from this earth is 20 billion

miles? So now I think it's the Voyager, wasn't it, that was sent out in the 70s? It's now 20 billion miles away. The furthest we've ever got into the earth, and it's not for want of trying, is 12 kilometers. It's really hot down there. But it's really cold in space. Yeah, it's just because there's stuff there, though. The geologists are just saying, in space, you've got no stuff. People act like it's such a big deal, but actually it's mostly space. There are a couple of molecules per cubic meter in space. That's true. But that's much, much fewer than in the ground, where there are loads of molecules literally every centimeter. That's molecule putting down there. The Slates.com official explainer question of the year for 2007 was,

why don't we drop medical waste and nuclear waste into active volcanoes? And what was the answer? Because they'll blow up nuclear waste all over southern Italy. Oh, it'll erupt. Is that the answer? Basically, if you put it in, it wouldn't, it's not hot enough to stop it from being radioactive, but it would just kind of fire it straight back into the atmosphere. So we'd have a nuclear volcanic eruption. Sorry. And that got question of the year. I think that's one of the silliest questions I've ever heard. I read, though, that one of the issues with a volcano eruption is that, obviously, over the months after it, lava can just still travel towards towns and they don't know how to stop it. They don't know what to do. Right. One of the

things that they tried back a long time ago was they bombed the lava. So they literally bombed the area of where the lava was going into. George Patton did that. The idea was to divert the direction of the, as you can get it all in a channel. Yeah. So he launched a bombing attack on lava. Wow. There's a volcanic island called Ferdinandia, which is off the coast of Sicily. And it is only above sea level when it's erupting. So normally it's not. And so it's not on very many maps. And so in 1986, the US Air Force flew over and bombed it thinking it was a Libyan submarine. Oh, really? Yeah. There's a volcano in Tanzania, isn't there, that erupts black lava. Oh, yeah. It's the only example of a volcano erupting that substance in the world. And it's

just because it's made of carbon and titan instead of silicate materials. But yeah, the lava is very, very dark. So it's colder than normal lava. Exactly. It can run at about 500 degrees Celsius, which is much cooler than normal lava. This is really cool. Sicilians used to use the slopes of Mount Etna to keep their food cold. Okay. Because there's snow all over the slopes of Mount Etna. So they use the caves in the side of the mountain to keep fruit cold and things like that and lemons and yeah. The Nero takes snow down there and make like an ice cream kind of thing. He probably took credit for it, didn't he? You know Nero. He tramples over intellectual property rights of others. The land speed record on a bicycle was set on a volcano.

Was it? Oh, yeah. It was on Siro Negro, which is in Nicaragua, I think. And it's like a really steep slope. And so people go down there quite often for fun. And this was done by a Frenchman called Eric Baron, known as the Red Baron. And he reached 107 miles per hour before his carbon fiber mountain bike snapped into sending him tumbling down the last section of the mountain. He broke five ribs, dislocated his shoulder and tore muscles in his hands. Oh, but got the record. Got the record. Worth it? Do we know that? The thing I always see is when people are trying to break speed records and that, for example, cycling, you cycle along, but you cycle along with an enormous truck driving ahead of you really and you're really close behind it. So you have to

assess the speed quite carefully and it's to get rid of the air resistance and all of that. So that's if you're pedaling, whereas this guy's just going down a massive mountain. This is freewheeling. Yeah, it's more like plummeting really. Yeah. It feels like cheating as well. It's true. I was actually going to say this fact for later in the podcast because my facts about running, but running is easier. Supposedly, I read this earlier today, I couldn't believe it, running is easier at about 20 degrees Celsius when the air temperature is there or higher because there are fewer molecules to get in your way as you run. Much easier in space, much more difficult when you're going through the air.

I don't believe it makes that much difference. I only lost that one because I think there are a lot of molecules out today. Yeah, my lane was full of molecules to be fair. Okay, time for fact number two and that is Harkin. Okay, my fact this week is that in 2010, an abandoned wastewater treatment plant in Baltimore was found to be home to an estimated 107 million spiders with a density of 35,176 spiders per cubic meter. I just feel sorry for the work experience boy who had to count them because he didn't have a fear of spiders before, but he does now. Yeah, it was an estimated number and then they've kind of extrapolated that to get the number. And they were all alive? They're all alive, yeah. They are great though. Someone

with meat can catch and eat fish. I think they've just found out. They found... Spiders can. Spiders can. They found out there are at least five species of spider, which one of them is the Dolomides spider, which can catch fish. The fish are on average twice their size and they anchor their hind legs to like a stone in a lake or a river and then they grab the fish with their front legs. That's amazing. It's pretty impressive. Yeah, that is really cool. I read that they found not too long ago the oldest spider web ever. Okay, what was that? It was in East Sussex I think and it was in Amber. It was from dinosaur days and they were studying it. And can I ask a definitely very stupid question?

By all means, thank you. All right, cool. Yeah, I'm learning to ask now. Why are we not for the things that we want to preserve, let's say for a long time in the future, just coating it in amber? You know, imagine if dinosaurs covered themselves in amber. We might have a full dinosaur. I actually think that's brilliant. Do you? Yeah, I do. James doesn't. I don't know where we would get enough amber because obviously it's low quantities. I'm sure we have better ways of keeping things like I'm sure I just put just from history. The only things that have survived through that are in a perfect state are things in amber. And that just seems like an obvious time capsule of a of a thing. Okay, cool. Hey, get on it. I'm completely still what you're doing.

So why do spiders not get stuck on their own webs? Do you know that? Do they have some kind of lubrication around their legs? Well, nobody is 100% sure. But what it seems like is that they leave their glue on the webs in only little blobs all the way around. And they just simply tip to around it so they don't stand on their own bits of glue. And if they do stand on it, then it's a little bit of a pain like getting, you know, chewing gum on your shoe or whatever, but it's not that bad. But when a fly comes into it, he hits like 50 blobs at once. And so that's what makes them stuck. Oh, okay. Such a big amount. So it's kind of like in a Bond film or something where you have to avoid all the lasers. If you're a fly, like Catherine Zeta-Jones in that film has to creep

around them in a maze of glue entrapment. Yeah, great film. Yeah. So the ogre face spider called as such because it has massive eyes, which means I can't go out and daylight because it's much too bright for it. But anyway, it is pretty ugly. And it does this really clever thing. So you reminded me when you said the spiders dropped little droplets on their web. First of all, it spins a web between its front legs. So it acts as a sort of like a fly capture. So it will hang down from its back legs above wherever it wants to stay to catch the flies. And then it swings this web or net that is made between its front legs at its prey and catches them. And the way that it knows when to swing is it creates a target by doing a little white poo on the ground. And it

leaves a little white blob of feces as a target. And as soon as it's in the dark, as soon as it sees an insect of some sort, cross this bit of poo, drops down upon it, gets it in its net. Wow. Consumes it. Very clever. Yeah. What do you reckon the lifespan of a spider is? Surely. Ten years. Ten years. So I don't know the answer. What I do know is I know the, as so far as we know, the oldest living spider. So the spider with the longest lifespan. Okay. 28 years. It's in Mexico. They had one that was captured in 1935. It's the world's oldest spider. And it's 28. And what's the secret? Does it drink a lot of milk or bird eating? Bird eating. Okay. Are you birds? I smoke 20 cigarettes a day. I don't exercise. I don't know

how I do it. There was, I was reading about the oldest recorded person who lived to be 122 and she died in 1997. And she quit smoking, I think five years before she died. So when she was 117, she went, okay, come on, this has been enough. But I quite enjoyed, I put, did put this on Twitter the other day, she was born in the year that Edison made the first sound transmission. And she died in the year that Hanson released Mbop. Was that what did for her in the end? She was the one who said that I only have one wrinkle and I'm sitting on it. Yeah. She was cracking. So just to put the original fact in context, which is that there were 107 million spiders here with a density of 35,000 per cubic meter. The standard amount of spiders that

we think are in like a British field would be about 49 per square meter. Wow. That's quite a lot though. It's still quite a lot. Yeah, that was a study done in 1958 in a Sussex Meadow. In the 1950s, if you look at photos, they were actually overwhelmed with spiders. Just all those films. That's why everyone's got their mouths shut in early photographs is to stop the spiders getting in. So is this a case of, you know, when they say if you leave rats and they breed and they breed and they breed or any, is this a case of just a total isolated sort of spider farm? I think they're just small. Oh, they, the Baltimore one. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically it. They had no predators there. They were allowed to just create as much as they wanted. And

eventually there was 107 million of them. It's extraordinary. You need a massive class, wouldn't you, to put that out? Yeah, a big shoe. What have they done with it? Do we know? The way it was worded, I think, I glanced at an article, they said they, the people at the Baltimore waste water treatment plant put out a call for extreme spider help, which isn't an understatement. I think the grammar is different. Extreme spider semi colon help. Do you think spider bed ever got the false cause of people wanting him to just get rid of spiders in the house? Guys, I'm dealing with some proper crime here. Batman bat. Same thing. That's true. Yeah. Cut woman. No, still not married. Okay, time for fact number three. And that's my fact. My fact this week is that according

to the Vatican, the greatest pop album of all time is Revolver by the Beatles. Oh, I would have thought they would choose Abbey Road personally, but chose what I know. It's created with the devotional hum. What according to the Vatican? Well, it's the Vatican newspaper who did a they published a list of what they consider to be the best albums of all time is the Vatican newspaper called the Praely Mail. It's called Losevita Romano. I can't pronounce it. Which is a very funny pun in Italian. The weird thing is, first off, the Beatles were the ones who more famous in any band in the world for having an association with a fight with the church when John Lennon said that the Beatles

were bigger than Christianity. Oh, he's bigger than Jesus, but I thought he said it. Sorry, then Jesus. Anybody also said Christianity would shrink and fade away in that very same interview. But I thought he said it despairingly. I didn't think he was celebrating the fact that they're bigger than Jesus. It didn't matter. It was the very notion of what he said. I mean, it led to people were burning their records in the streets, throwing all their merchandise. It was a huge backlash. Huge backlash. It was one of the biggest sort of moments of their career that they had to recover from. Wow. But so it's interesting. They've given him a pardon now. They've pardoned him for saying what he said. They said the Beatles were satanic music.

But the list is just, I mean, it's pretty, it's just a mismatch. You don't expect the Vatican to be saying the Beatles, David Crosby, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Donald Fagan. Donald Fagan is the lead singer of Steely Dan. So not even a Steely Dan album, a solo work. Yeah, a spin-off. It's like the equivalent of like nominating a John Bon Jovi solo album and not a Bon Jovi album. Like it's just a very obscure choice. So I think this newspaper is trying to hip up, isn't it? I've read the Vatican thought it was getting a bit dated. All this, we still love the hymns. Oh, God, we like our big, long robes and our cross necklaces. I think there was a movement within this newspaper to say, look, we're with it, guys. And so now they report, they, so they

review Harry Potter, which is, again, has had issues with the church. And they said that the Half-Blood Prince was good because it showed a clear line of demarcation between good and evil. That's interesting because they're, the Vatican's exorcist really didn't like it. No, he says it's satanic. Yeah. He also thinks that yoga is satanic. I think he needs to, he needs to get with it. He's 89. There was a big feature about this paper in The Guardian, and it said that until 2007, this was kind of the old days for Los Ervatores. There were two kinds of articles. The first one was those in which a Vatican department had definitely directly intervened in,

and they had a code for that, which was three asterisks placed above or near the article. But the other kind, the kind which didn't have the asterisks on, were those which had been written by Los Ervatores staff, but they were so careful not to embarrass anyone that these articles were totally unreadably boring. So you had a choice of reading either propaganda or tedium. Yeah. But that's kind of changing that. They've, I believe they've shaken it up a bit. But it's not, it's not the, it's not exactly the official voice of the church, is it? It's in a weird place between official and unofficial. It's allowed, it's allowed in the Vatican. It's a paper that's kind of seen as a daily paper there. Yeah. And it seems to have a lot of,

it's, it's the place where if, if the Pope has something to say, there'll be the people to publish it. It's very much the Middlesbrough Gazette. Exactly. Do you guys know about the Apostolic Penitentiary system? Been through it, mate. Yep. That's on our, that's the title of our spin off podcast. 20 years in. No, what is it? So it's this tribunal, it's the oldest, it's the oldest established body of the Holy See. It's existed since 1179. And it's where you go when you've committed a sin that's too heinous to be forgiven by a priest. So if you've got to confess something, you go to confession, the priest is like, whoa, out of my pay grade. Then you go to the Apostolic Penitentiary Tribunal and there are five sins that are too evil. Shall we guess what

they are? Yeah, go on. I'll go for murder. Oh, no, murder is easy. Genocide even is, you can get genocide forgiven by a standard priest. Yeah, you can. What? Yeah. What, your local, how many Hail Marys do you have to say for that? Look, it takes a couple of weeks, reciting in your route. So three of them are cooing the Pope. What's cooing it? Pulling a finger up his bum. Maybe. Defacing his ring. So most of them. Killing the Pope, you can't kill the Pope, that is understandable. Yeah. There are three which just apply to people who want to work for the church. So if you're a priest and you've been in any way involved in an abortion, then you have to go here to confess it to directly to the Pope. And if you're a priest who's been confessed

to and then you've broken your oath not to share your confession. And then the only other one that normal people like us can commit and we'd have to be sent to Vatican is if we deface the Eucharist. What, you mean at local church, if I get Body of Christ and I drop it? I think dropping it is the right, you can play the five second rule on it, can't you? That's probably the three day rule of Catholic Church. So it's more if you're doing it intentionally. There was a scientist in America recently, for instance, who drove a rusty nail through a bit of communion wafer. And I think the church was pretty pissed off about that. I like that. I just like the idea of the Pope listening to pop music. I don't think he does. It's obviously just this paper that's

saying it. But there are a lot of I like when you read about people who are in high power positions and they admit to liking certain things. So the Dalai Lama is very good mates with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Beastie Boys, which is just such a weird mismatch. But he recognized that he could put free Tibet concerts on, use the power of these pop stars. And he realized they're the people who spoke to people. So he became very good mates with them. David Cameron, do you know what his favorite album is? Coldplay? Coldplay album? No, he said that it was Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But he, everyone knows that that's a lie because everyone knows that his favorite album is The Queen is Dead by the Smiths. But he can't say that now

that he's Prime Minister, though he had constantly said that before becoming Prime Minister. Then when he did say he loves the Smith, both Morrissey and Johnny Maher came out saying you were not allowed to like us. They banned David Cameron. Yeah, that's ridiculous. It's not really up to them. I know. I just like them coming out saying it's ours and you're not allowed to like this. All musicians come out and ban politicians from liking their music. After a certain age, you shouldn't have a favorite album. You should have a favorite, I don't know, symphony. What's your favorite symphony, Andy? I haven't reached that age yet. It's my favorite album. Beethoven's seventh. It's my favorite album. On niche newspapers, can I tell you about my favorite one,

which is Jail Mail, which is a relatively new magazine and it's for everyone in the prison system. There are two others which are called Inside Time and Converse, as in convict and verse, so converse. I think the Daily Jail would have been better, but I think it's a weekly anyway. But anyway, it was hugely popular and it's had to double its print run for its next edition. It has advice on what to do when you're up before the governor and details of reading projects and how to find employment. Is it written by people and by prisoners? I think a lot of it is, yeah. Form and use of the world, please. A lot of journalists in there. I just think that's cool. Can I just, on the Beatles?

I didn't realize that apparently their concerts all just smelled of urine, and if you looked around the aisles, you saw women's pee and Bob Geldof has tested to this, so this is because women used to turn up and wet themselves so excited. It's not true. These days of rolling stones give smell of urine, but that's the answer. Okay, let's move on to our final fact, and that is Andrew Hunter Murray. My fact is that for the first 50 years of the Olympics, the only event was the 200-meter sprint, which must have made the two weeks of the competition extremely boring in the most part. It's just the modern Olympics. No, this is the Ancient Greek Olympics. So this is from a book I've just got called Eureka,

Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Ancient Greeks, but we're afraid to ask by a guy called Peter Jones, and it looks like it's full of good things, and it basically says, for the first 50 years, it was the Olympic game, not the Olympic games, which is a nice way of putting it, and then after 50 years, they added the 400-meter race. But the cool thing is, if you won it, the entire Olympiad was named after you for the next four years, so it would become the Kevin Olympics or whatever that was instead of the Athens Olympics. Isn't that great? That's really cool. The Usain Bolt Olympics. Yeah, and then they started adding funkier things later like boxing and wrestling and chariot racing. After 200 years, they added a race in armor.

Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, that's great. I read that that was the race in armor, the only body coverings was a helmet and shin guards, because that was what the race and the rest of it was completely naked. Okay, I wasn't imagining that at all. I was thinking big heavy plates of armor, so it's a challenge like American football or whatever. But the 200 meters wasn't even 200 meters, was it? I think it was 192. That's true. Did they call it the 200 meters before we just called it that? That's an approximation. It was called stadion, which is where we get the word stadion from, and there was a measurement of a stage based on that. Okay, cool.

And there were other games as well. I didn't realize this. There was the Pythian Games in Delphi. It was really short games. And the Nomean Games. And if you won the games at Delphi, you got Laurel, obviously at the Olympics, you got Olive. At the ISP, the Nomean Games, you got Pine. And at the Nomean Games, it was Celery, which you won, which I find very pleasing. Where the Olympics were held in 2012 in London, that borough Neum is the most physically inactive borough in the whole of the UK. That's where I live. I live in Hackney, but I'm literally, I'm 10 minutes away from Stratford. 39.17% of people in Neum take no exercise at all. Where's Neum? Stratford is 10 minutes away from where you live. Yeah, but I've never heard

In the 1932 Olympic 3000 meter steeple chase, it was actually run over 3400 meters because an official loss count of the number of laps. That's so good. That's so good. You'd be, you'd realize soon after you'd forgotten, I don't know how many they've done. And you'd wonder if anyone else would spot. You could put, oh, the poor guy. Well, the runners is they're coming in and they're going to the final lap. They're looking at you and you're not saying anything. You're like, why? Another one? Well, you'd just try and bluff it out, wouldn't you? Because you'd know if you stopped them too early. You think, well, I definitely don't want to stop them too early because they'll really

know. But if I make them do another lap, it'll look like it's their fault for being slow. Yeah. So was the one of the person who crossed the boundary at the right time or the person who finished at the wrong end time? I think it was the same person, but it would have been at the end when they've officially finished. Because you must, and everyone must have put on a real burst to get to the finishing line and then no, no whistle, no crowds cheering. Just that would be a great Olympic race that we're not telling you how many laps. That's a brilliant idea. Sometimes it's one, sometimes it's 25. Yeah, that's a really good idea. Okay, so that and then we put them all in amber at the end. So there's no adequate training for it. Yeah, cool. Well, that is the spirit of

amateurism, which they would want. They wouldn't, they weren't, they weren't amateurs from the start at the Olympics. No, they weren't. They got loads of money, didn't they? Yeah. In the ancient Greek Olympics. I think someone's worked out that Gaius Apelius Diocles was extremely good at winning money, I think, in his Olympic games, and he won a lot of events. And it's been worked out that he won what will be the equivalent today of over $15 billion in modern day cash. Wow, $15 billion. Just from winning a bunch of Olympic events. I think they work it out on the percentage against, like say, for instance, someone in the army. Yeah, something that we can yes. It's really hard though. It's so hard doing that. There are three or four different

ways of calculating it anyway. So it was enough to be so he earned enough to pay the entire salary of the whole Roman army for more than two months, which he didn't do. They ask him the classic, what are you going to do with all your money? Do you want to hear an Olympics theme joke? Yes, please. Marcus was so slow in the races that the groundsmen locked him in for the night because he thought he was a statue. It's quite a funny joke. That's an ancient, ancient athletics joke. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I was going to say in 1908, when we hosted the London Olympics, first of all, we did say that was obviously the first time we hosted it. And we weren't supposed to host it. The reason,

in fact, fitting me in this forecast that we didn't was because I think somewhere in Italy was supposed to host it and Vesuvius erupted in 1906, so they couldn't. So we stepped in like the heroes that we are, we then copped it up in a number of ways. So we included, we had all the flags up on poles around the stadium as you do. That was the first year that became tradition. We had the Chinese and Japanese flag up, neither of which countries competed. We forgot to include the Swedish and American flags, which were competing. So obviously the Swedes were really polite about that and were like, oh, no, don't worry about it. So we'll just never mind. And America brought their own flag and their own pole and hoisted it up themselves.

It was sponsored by OXO, by the way, the 1908 Olympic Games. Yeah, it was actually sponsored by OXO Indian Foot Powder and Odol Mouthwash. Fantastic things to be sponsored by. Was it, was that OXO comma Indian Foot Powder? I don't think it was used for that. This isn't, OXO was originally used to cure athletes. No, we are announcing actually that today is our first podcast that's sponsored by OXO Indian Foot Powder. In India, they have a thing called the rural Olympics. And they have three types of competitions in there. They have rural games such as Kabadi or wrestling, modern sports such as athletics and football and performing sports such as acrobatics, twisting an iron rod by placing it on the other apple, passing a tractor over the ribcage and

cracking a big stone by placing it on the chest, et cetera. Which means what letting a tractor go over your chest? Yeah, that's just one of the sports. How can you win at letting something happen? It's more of not losing. Imagine the disappointment after the tractor drives over your chest and you look up and you see a judge giving you a five. That's why you got a five. I have a fact. This is really fun. They think that the starting position for running races at the Ancient Greek Olympics was just standing up next to each other and with your arms stretched out in front of you as opposed to the crouching still. What a funny way of starting a race, isn't that brilliant? Well, it might work if you then push your arms backwards and it might

give you some momentum. Yeah, that's a good point. That's all of our facts. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. If you want to get in contact with any of us about the things we've said over the course of this podcast, we can all be gone on Twitter either at at QI podcast or individually on at Shriverland for me, James. That's egg shaped Andy. I'm Drew Hunter M and Anna can be gone on. You can email podcast at qi.com. And if you go to no such thing as fish.com, we've got all of our previous episodes there and we'll be back again next week with another episode and we'll see you then. Goodbye.