No Such Thing As A Fish - 54: No Such Thing As Domesticated Furniture

Episode Date: March 27, 2015

Live at the Soho Theatre, Dan, James, Andy and Anna discuss eccentric dinner parties, the most pointless scientific studies and what happens to tattoos when they die. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast this week coming to you from the Soho Theatre in Central London. My name is Dan Schreiber. I'm sitting here with James Harkin, Andy Murray, and Anna Chazinski, and once again we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days, and in no particular order, here we go, starting with you, Andy Murray. My fact this week is that when you have a tattoo lasered off, you end up pooing it out. Does it still have the same design on the poo? So yeah, this happens. So when you have a tattoo, it goes into the middle layer of the
Starting point is 00:01:04 skin, which is called the dermis, and when it's lasered off, the beams of light, they heat up the ink and it breaks down into tiny particles, and those go into the bloodstream, and then they are excreted via the liver and the digestive system, and that's how they get out of you. So do you know what tattoos are made out of, like the ink? Do you know where that comes from? Okay, well, there was a lady on Facebook who got a tattoo of vegan on her inner lip, and then her friends pointed out that actually most black ink of tattoos is made from burnt animal bones. Oh, God, she's going to see that every time she looks in the mirror. Every time she eats anything, she's going to get a little... Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:01:53 the worst part. Yeah, you can get vegan tattoos, but they're very rare indeed. Right. The oldest tattoo we know of is on a lip, isn't it? It's a tattoo of a thin pencil moustache. Tattooed onto the upper lip of a 7,000-year-old mummy from Chile. Wow. What, like a little French kind of... I don't know if it has the gap down the middle that a pencil moustache is supposed to have, but... Do they have to have a gap down the middle? Don't they? No, I've never heard of one. Yeah, all right, yeah. I think there's somebody who's never been able to grow a moustache. I don't know, Dan? I don't know, yeah. My grandmother has tattooed eyebrows. Does she part? Does she, like, permanently look surprised? I don't know where her original
Starting point is 00:02:42 eyebrows went, though. That's what I don't know. Did she poo them out? I do think you're going to say your grandmother had a thin pencil moustache, which would be kind of a cool thing to share. Yeah. So the thing on tattoos being quite... Sort of the stereotype of them being for sailors or for criminals or whatever it is. The headline, tattoos are not just for sailors anymore, has appeared in print every decade since the mid-19th century. Every decade there's a rash of articles saying they've entered the mainstream, here they are. So today more teachers have them, they're members of the armed forces. Really? Yeah, by 14% to 9%. But it used to be like 90% of sailors had tattoos, wasn't it? Something like that
Starting point is 00:03:22 in the 19th century, probably. Yeah. And one thing that it was good for was it meant that you could identify a sailor who had drowned because you'd be able to identify them by the tattoos, and they were actually used in that way. So you could tell that he had a tattoo that said, I have drowned? He has a lot of tattoos. The first one says, help. The second one says, I don't know, down. The third one says, blub, blub, blub. And the other thing that they thought the sailors is if you had hold tattooed on your knuckles on one hand and fast on the other hand, then it would help you hold onto ropes better. The way you could stop drowning as a sailor, apparently, was to have a pig tattooed on
Starting point is 00:04:02 your knee and then a cock, as in a rooster, tattooed on your right leg somewhere, and they had a saying that was, pig on the knee, safety at sea, a cock on the right, never lose a fight. Which is weird. Neither of those animals can swim. Yeah. Yeah. Fight very well. Speaking of cocks and tattoos. Oh, God. Sometimes when I want to find out some facts for this show, I'll go back to the old QI top boards and see what I wrote in the past. And I searched for tattoos and I found something that Dan posted in 2005. Really? And this is what he said. He said, I was told today that if a man was to have a tattoo done on his penis, then he was entitled to free tattoos for the rest of his life from anywhere in the world
Starting point is 00:04:44 in any tattooing power. No questions asked. This is what I used to pass for QI research back in the day. So I have a confession. It's not just my grandmother with a tattoo. Well, I had a look and there are one or two tattoo parlors that will claim that they will do that, whether they will or not. I don't know, but it's not everyone in the world all the time. It's a very difficult thing to Google, by the way. It's very easy to Google. It's very difficult to forget. I shouldn't have gone in Google images really, but I found a story about a 21-year-old from Iran who paid a tattoo artist to put the letter M for his girlfriend's last name and the Persian phrase for good luck with your journeys on
Starting point is 00:05:28 his penis. And he felt pain for eight days and then his penis became permanently semi-erect, so he couldn't get it to go down. He lived with it the three months before getting medical help and doctors tried shunting the penis to drain excess blood. Not sure what, shunting? Yes, it's a weird, nice thing. And then it didn't work, and so the patient decided he was fine with the condition and declined further treatment. Wow. Wow. At the turn of the... So they were a quite a high society thing, weren't they, in the
Starting point is 00:06:01 19th century? At the turn of the... In about 1900, a New York newspaper estimated that 75% of society ladies in New York had tattoos. Wow. 75%? So what kind of tattoos? Like practical ones or... Practical tattoos. Yeah, I'm going to... No, no, no, no. You do. Don't back away. Step up.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You get medical tattoos. We get some of the oldest tattoos ever, which are 5,000 years old. The 3,000 BC. We found bodies where there's a body in the Alps which has tattoos over his joints, and they looked at the skeleton, and he had osteoarthritis in those joints. So it's like a kind of acupuncture. This is the Iceman, in fact, isn't it? Yeah. That's what I meant by it, actually, because the Mercury astronauts, apparently, as well. Sure, it was, by the way.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah. No, no, no, but I looked into whether or not astronauts had any tattoos, because I just thought that they seemed like the type of people that would, and, majoritably... What? I feel like I'm saying a lot of things that it's just me agreeing with. Mercury astronauts, they would have them in just like sensor locations, basically, for whenever they had to monitor their health, so they knew where they were. They would... They were like putting a bit of tape on the ground as a mark for an actor, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 There was a guy who was arrested by Canada's border services agency with the letters H-A-T-E on his knuckles, and he claimed that it stood for happiness all through eternity. That's very good. Great thinker. One woman used an internet translation to translate I Love David into Hebrew. She later discovered she inadvertently had the phrase, Babylon is the world's leading dictionary and translation software on her back forever. But she doesn't have a free account with Babylon forever, so...
Starting point is 00:08:00 David Beckham has Victoria Beckham's name misspelled tattooed onto his body in Hindi. Yeah. Oh, dear. And Samantha Cameron has a tattoo. Yeah, she's cooler than all of us. Hello, dance grandmother. Is it a practical tattoo? It's a dolphin on her ankle. Is that practical?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, that's cool. Why did she... Was that just a holiday that she took once, or...? To a dolphin. To a dolphinarium. No, just you go on holiday and you get a tattoo. No, I don't mean there's like, oh, is anyone got a camera? No? Oh, quick tattoo that dolphin so I can live this memory forever.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, sorry. There's an American guy who has over a thousand tattoos based on Disney characters, including all 101 of 101 Dalmatians. Which I don't. There must be tiny, though, of the Dalmatians. Well, they're pothies, aren't they? Well, obviously none of them is life-sized, but I mean... So by the single, you know, the area of a body by a thousand,
Starting point is 00:09:03 there's not much room you've got. Yeah, so I mean, I think it is to scale, but it is scale down. And he has a system, so he has all the evil characters are below his knees, and all the undersea characters are below his belly. So I don't know, but then all the evil characters aren't under the sea, so I don't know how he works that out. Wow. Anyway, he gets copyrighted by Disney.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Like, Disney's allowed him to do it. Why is it illegal to do a Disney tattoo? I think when you've got that many of them. What would they do? Make you poo it out. Oh, yeah. We're going to have to move on to our next fact. So if anyone has anything more that they want to add.
Starting point is 00:09:42 On mistakes in tattoos, John Carew, who's a footballer. Yeah, John Carew. John Carew, he got a tattoo saying... He wanted to say, my life, my rules. So he got Mavi Meregla, but he got the accent wrong on Regla. He got an acute accent instead of a grave one, which translates as, my life, my menstruation. OK, it's time for our second fact of the evening,
Starting point is 00:10:13 and that fact is Chazinski's. Yeah, my fact is that the man who invented the airship used to hold dinner parties with 10-foot-high chairs so that his guests could experience the joy of flight. This guy was an amazing presenting guy called Alberto Santos Dumont. And first of all, he decided to have him hanging from the ceiling, which you could understand was more reminiscent of flight.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But one of his first dinner parties, he put all his guests hanging from the ceiling and the ceiling collapsed, so he's... So after all the funerals of the previous guests, weirdly, no one wanted to come to the next party and the ceiling was fine. So the wake will be at mine. I've organised a nice dinner.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Wow. Yeah, he was great. He was an inventor. He grew up on a plantation in Brazil and he invented a toy motor-powered functioning aeroplane, which was quite a long time before the first aeroplanes were invented in the late 19th century. And then he moved to Paris and became a celebrity because he invented the airship, which attracted attention,
Starting point is 00:11:15 and used to invite celebrities and royalty to his house and house these wacky dinner parties and they'd have to mount their seats on ladders and... Yeah. I remember this in his time. At the time said, when the names of all those who have occupied outstanding positions in the world have been forgotten,
Starting point is 00:11:32 there will be a name which will remain in our memory that of Santos Dumont. What was the name again? He does sound like an amazing guy. He sounds unbelievable, actually. As in, he had his own airship in Paris when no one else had any means of flight. He was just flying around the streets of Paris.
Starting point is 00:11:48 He would just stop at a café, tether it, and then go down to the café and say, well, see you later. And four night off. It was in the late 19th century, early 20th century. He just did it. What was he tethering to? Rooftops. And lamp posts and things like that.
Starting point is 00:12:04 It wasn't huge. When you look at photos of it, it's not a massive airship. No, it's a one-man airship, I think, a personal airship. It's unbelievable. He would go past ladies' bedrooms and they would throw their underwear out of the window at him. That's how famous he was. Really? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 He was super generous. So he was responsible for the first woman ever to take flight because there was a princess. I can't... She was a princess of some foreign country who came to visit Paris, took an interest in his airship, said, wouldn't mind going up one of those. And he taught her to fly one.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And then he had her flying one through the streets of Paris and he cycled below, shouting her instructions as she did so. And this was the first woman to fly. Wow. Actually, it sounds way worse to think of men throwing their underwear at her. Oh, Jesus. He invented other things as well.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I know, the 10-foot chair. No one talks about it. No one mentions the 10-foot chair. We've all got one. No, he invented a set of motorized skis to get him back up a mountain. Really? And he invented a slingshot which would throw life belts out from sinking ships so that everyone could have a life belt.
Starting point is 00:13:09 He also invented a racing airship which was similar to his airship, but he never raced it because he had no one to race against. That is so sad. He could have just made two, couldn't he? Yeah. Can I bring it to dinner parties very quickly? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I just want to talk about my favorite dinner party host from history which is William Buckland. He's a very exciting character. He studied fossils and he was a geologist. But he also went on this massive mission to eat every single thing in the animal kingdom. He was just like, I need to have everything his favorite.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So if you went to his house for dinner, you would end up having things like elephant's trunk and he knew food, like he knew animal food, everything about them so well that he was once invited to go to this church where they thought a saint's blood was on the ground of this church. And he came over there
Starting point is 00:13:57 and he had a look at it and he was like, because it was just his patch on the ground, oh, it's the saint's blood. He leaned down, he licked it, and he came back up and went, nah, it's bat urine. He just knew. But also the worst guest to have at a dinner party,
Starting point is 00:14:13 was Lord Harcourt. He's the Archbishop of York. And at the dinner, Harcourt was like, I've got this amazing relic that I want to show you all. He brought out what was the heart of Louis the 16th in a box. And within seconds, Bucklin just grabbed it and he ate it. But you say worst dinner guest ever.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Very few dinner hosts bring the heart of a dead king to the table. I would say worst dinner host ever. Okay, here's another dinner party thing. There was a christening of Louis the 14th's grandson. He created a cake. Sorry, there was a great chef called Antoine Caram
Starting point is 00:14:45 who created a cake. And the cake was made out of almond paste, pastry and clockwork. I love clockwork. I love it so much. It's so hard to get these days in pastries. Every Greg's I go into. They had clockwork
Starting point is 00:15:01 because this cake on top of it had a baby Duke entering the world through a marzipan vagina. That is quite a sense of peace, isn't it? Sorry, it was him. It was celebrating him. It was a model of his mother. Giving birth to him.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Through marzipan with clockwork. Don't get that Greg's to you. Wow. I was reading that back in the day when furniture was just suddenly being introduced to the idea of us having it in our homes and stuff. Wait, wait, wait. I know.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But it was being introduced to the idea of having it in our homes. It was quite a shock for furniture. It wasn't domesticated until the 1500s. There were beautiful days when, you know, freestanding shazes would just roam the belt.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Oh, God. It's not a wild chair these days. There are only 400 Louis Cato's tables left in the wild. Sorry. Sorry, Doug. Oh, no, that was my fax. No, they...
Starting point is 00:16:15 Apparently, when we started introducing furniture, we, like, cupboards would just be put in the middle of the room, as opposed to against the wall now. And dinner tables, we didn't used to have legs to dinner tables. You would have people come and sit. If you were having a party, there would be a big board like this that you would bring out
Starting point is 00:16:31 and you would put it on your legs. So they'd just be sat on your legs. And that's why, apparently, there were boards that would be in borders who stay in your house. That's why they're called borders, because they would be part of the legs that would hold the table up. I read this in Bill Bryson's book
Starting point is 00:16:47 at home, and he used to say that carpets, before we used to walk on them, you'd just have them on your wall and you'd go, it's my carpet. And if you had a special guest, then you'd take it down from the wall and you'd put it for them to walk on. And chairs used to be against the walls. You would have chairs against the walls,
Starting point is 00:17:03 because at night, when you didn't have electricity, you'd put all your stuff in the middle of your room. But if you had chairs all over the shop, then you might hurt yourself. Where are you going? You should be asleep. They would get up halfway through the night, wouldn't they? Because people used to sleep in two different sections.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And then get up and have sex, or go through the crosswalk. You're very confident about it. Oh, we're going to have to move on. Shall we move on? Has anyone got anything else? I quite like the inactivity chair, which has recently been invented, which is a chair with only two legs.
Starting point is 00:17:37 And it is basically so that you live in fear while you sit on it, and have to constantly be doing a balancing act. And I think the idea is that you can exercise while also being seated, but it sounds awful. Anyway, invest in one if you're looking to improve your health. I always think, I'm not afraid enough
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Starting point is 00:18:31 Okay, time for fact number three. That is my fact. My fact this week is that a new scientific study has concluded that there are too many scientific studies. It's basically the study was saying that it's doing a thing now
Starting point is 00:18:47 where so many studies are coming out in science that it's diminishing the attention that gets given to an actual good study because it's drawing headlines away from them, and studies are going so sort of minute into these little, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:19:03 there's great ones that we've read in the past that we've talked about in the office and stuff, a study that showed that the fish herring that they fought to communicate with each other that's how they talk, and that's a study and that might get in the way of saying that could be a good study because
Starting point is 00:19:19 you might want to know if there's a load. So I think it was in Scandinavia somewhere they heard a load of bubbles underneath the sea and it might have been like a Russian submarine or something like that, but it turned out to be herrings communicating by farting to each other and if you hadn't done the study
Starting point is 00:19:35 you wouldn't know that that was a thing. So probably saved World War 3. Okay, so that's a bad example. Fine. There are lots of studies that seem to be taking attention away. So it's the idea that we forget as well. So we might have cracked everything
Starting point is 00:19:51 five years ago, but just not noticed at the time and now we're carrying on and on with more studies. And we do start to do some relevance, not we personally, but the Royal Society of Chemistry last year published 11 steps on how to make the perfect cup of tea, which definitively determined
Starting point is 00:20:07 after releasing this paper that you are supposed to put the milk in first to avoid de-napturation of the milk. We actually have big arguments in the QI office about how to make tea nearly. I can sense a little bit of anger. Oh my God, that was the British thing ever.
Starting point is 00:20:23 There was a palpable... It wasn't a hiss, but it was an intake of breath, wasn't it? Yeah. I think we all felt that. So I am with the breath intake because I always think it was a travesty to suggest you put the milk in first,
Starting point is 00:20:39 but that is what they say, that's a safer way to do it. It's also explained in this study. It's safer. Three more tea deaths in Warford Stoke. So the single most downloaded paper in the history of the journal is it PLOS?
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's the 2005 paper why most published research findings are false. That's quite good, isn't it? So there's a guy who's written a lot of studies about false words in science, and his name is John Ioannidis. And as a boy, he was already doing research on research,
Starting point is 00:21:11 as it were, he was doing meta-research. And when he was a child, he came up with a love numbers system to work out how affectionate he was about his own family. He said, my mother was getting 1,024.42. My grandmother, 173.73. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He said basically that all the statistics in all these papers are a bit dubious, etc. But then a lot of people have said actually his statistics are a bit dubious as well. So, yeah. Controversial. It is certainly... I assume he was talking about
Starting point is 00:21:43 like publication bias. So publication bias is a major problem in scientific studies, isn't it? Because only positive results tend to be published and about 90% of studies that are done actually yield negative results which aren't as headline-grabbing.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And there are journals now which are like the journal of negative results, which is just people who've done experiments and gone, we found nothing. Nothing has been achieved here. And there's also a guy called Mark Schreim at Harvard who wanted to see how easy it would be
Starting point is 00:22:15 to be published. And so he published an article and he made one up using randomtextgenerator.com and the article was called Cuckoo for Coco Puffs and it was by Pinkerton A. LeBrain and Orson Wells
Starting point is 00:22:31 and he submitted it to 37 journals over two weeks and it was accepted by 17 of them. Wow. I know. Pinkerton A. LeBrain. It's a good term, isn't it? Because you have a name like LeBrain,
Starting point is 00:22:47 you're going to be a scientist. There's a journal called Brain. Do you remember that? There's a journal called Brain and there's a guy who used to be the head of Brain who was called Head. Henry Head it was. And then he left Brain
Starting point is 00:23:03 and then when he left being the head of Brain Head was replaced as the head of Brain by a guy called Brain. There's a website called Retraction Watch because they pay attention to people quietly retracting their research when it turns out to be wrong. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It was set up by these two journalists called Ivan Oransky and Adam Marcus and they're absolute heroes and the top one or two retraction holders are both anesthesiologists for what it's worth and there is one scientist in Japan who has had to retract
Starting point is 00:23:35 183 papers out of 212. Wow. Stop publishing him. But his name is Captain Orson so they assume it must be right. So I went on to DailyMail.co.uk
Starting point is 00:23:51 and searched for according to a recent study just to see if there were too many really and here were the first five things I found and even sharks can be shy according to a new study. We have covered on the podcast
Starting point is 00:24:07 that sharks can have friends so let's not be a shy shark. Study reveals the tactics we use to avoid being heard on the loo. Oh, that's great. Any tests for them?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Any is. They only read the headline, sorry. Another one was bump in the night sending the wife. One in five men pretend to be asleep when hearing a possible intruder Fortunately, fortunately it's almost always furniture
Starting point is 00:24:41 but they haven't placed safely by the wall. We're going to have to move on. Okay, one more thing. I looked at other things that there's too many of and there was a study done that said three quarters of viewers of television
Starting point is 00:24:57 have cited confusion over the proliferation of choice as a reason they miss shows as in there's so many channels they always miss TV shows. They're just flicking desperately between them. They can't find the right one. I had a look at all the different channels
Starting point is 00:25:13 on my TV system on Sky and I found one which I've never seen before. It's pavershoes.tv and it's Sky Channel 669 and their programs include sensational sandals pretty in pumps
Starting point is 00:25:29 and classic clogs Sounds like a fast shot I'll have another one. Yeah, well, I think you are on this. 669 But in the UK it's 667 It's a shoe size joke.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Alright, we're going to have to move on to our final fact. How did the shoe material go? Time for our final fact of the evening and that is James. Okay, my fact is that you should never pick up a desert tortoise.
Starting point is 00:26:11 If you do it can pee itself to death. Yeah, so what they do is they store urine in their bladder which they can then draw upon because they live in the desert so they need as much water as they can get and if you pick them up they can get so scared that they will evacuate their bladder as it wet themselves and then they can die
Starting point is 00:26:31 of dehydration. Because they keep something like 40% of their body mass is kept as the urine that then translates into a sort of like rehydrated water, not a rehydrated water. It's really diluted I think. So it's not too acidic or it doesn't
Starting point is 00:26:47 damage them. But it's just a way that something can live in the desert but obviously then they don't expect people to just come and pick them up and then they die. But yeah, desert tortoises pretty cool they live around the Las Vegas area around the bladder, around there. They dig basins to catch
Starting point is 00:27:03 rainwater another way they get water and they always know where they are and whenever it looks like it's going to rain they're always found next to these places that they've dug waiting for the water to come so they can immediately drink it. And weirdly this is really strange. Humans are not so likely to die
Starting point is 00:27:19 when they're in the children or teenagers or whatever and you get more likely to die as you get older but weirdly desert tortoises they are less likely to die as the time goes on. The older they get the less likely they are to die. Yeah, so that's why they live for so long and that's like tortoises do live for a long time.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah. That's true of these birds. Well, one was so old I read this in and apparently there's a bit of contention about whether or not this is true or not but one of Darwin. What we'll do is we'll cut that out and put it at the start of every fight you say about that.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Basically there was a tortoise called Harriet which belonged to Charles Darwin so the contentious bit is did that belong to Charles Darwin they're not fully sure but Harriet had a bit of a travelled life after Darwin or whoever got her, ended up in Australia Zoo and ended up being looked
Starting point is 00:28:07 after by Steve Irwin. So Steve Irwin and Charles Darwin are connected within one lifetime. Wow. Yeah, that is really cool. There was a tortoise called there was a tortoise called Adwaita who lived to the age of 255
Starting point is 00:28:23 and that meant that this tortoise was born before the USA existed and their death was announced on CNN. Wow. So there's some quite good footage of tortoises sniffing each other's bum like dogs because they secrete pheromones from like the cloaca or from that area
Starting point is 00:28:39 and there's quite good footage of a female tortoise crawling over a lettuce and secreting her scent as she goes and then a male tortoise really enthusiastically trying to have sex with a lettuce because you see Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Lettuce was used to, they did think it was an aphrodisiac, didn't they? In ancient Egypt they did. Tortoises and people did, yeah. It's because they used to grow quite tall. They used to have wild lettuce which was really tall and it wasn't like a normal, boring, modern lettuce, it was quite exciting.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And it secreted a white sap. It secreted a white sap and it tasted peppery and it was a stem and it secreted, you know. Lettuce used to be better as well. Apparently tortoises can use touchscreen technology now. They could touch things.
Starting point is 00:29:27 No, so they found that tortoises are actually a lot more clever than they believe them to be originally. For example in mazes they're fantastic in mazes. They can remember multiple destinations in one single route which often rats can't do and now they're teaching them to use touchscreen technology
Starting point is 00:29:43 to create Spotify lists of great music. Because they've got great taste in music which Captain Orson published in his recent paper. I haven't seen the Retraction List, I don't know
Starting point is 00:29:59 if it was in that. So if they need more food and they give them grapes and apples and stuff, they press the right button that highlights itself. So they go into a car, though. And just, more lettuce, more lettuce, more lettuce. Oh, by the way,
Starting point is 00:30:16 apparently, I've always been confused between what a tortoise and a turtle is. And so I'm just going to say, in case everyone here doesn't know the difference, but a tortoise has feet and a turtle has flippers. So now we know. That's a very good way of...
Starting point is 00:30:31 So I thought they should have been called ninja tortoises because they have feet. Oh, yeah. Dan, I think you've redeemed yourself without that. What was amazing about that was it took ages for everyone to go, that wasn't as dumb as it definitely sounded.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So on ways of staying hydrated in the desert, where there's no water and no rain, there are lots of very cool ways of doing it. So there are some beetles which when night is just turning into day, they stand very still
Starting point is 00:31:08 and they let fog condense on their bodies and then they can drink it because it slowly coalesces onto them and then they have enough water to get them through the day. The name for these beetles is fog stand beetles. Someone thought that was the best name on that day that they could come up with.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Every time you see animals and their names, it's always like, there's a tortoise called the big-headed tortoise. That was a very small creative meeting. He told me he was the best tortoise. Here's some... Some other tortoise names while we're here. The pancake tortoise.
Starting point is 00:31:45 The geometric tortoise. The impressed tortoise. Who hangs around with a big-headed tortoise, I guess. This guy, I really like him. The wolf-volcano giant tortoise. It just sounds like the four best things. Yeah, he's got a really good PR. Other desert animals
Starting point is 00:32:08 that have good ways of storing their water are road runners urinate out their eyes. What? I have not seen that in the cartoon. It's how they excrete their salt because you use up a lot of water. You lose a lot of water when you urinate, so they just lose it through their eyes.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Also, mountain goats. You've got to be really careful now, apparently, in areas of mountain goats, like in North America, because they really like human urine because they've realised they don't have a nose or a human urine because they've realised they don't have a natural salt, a natural thing they eat that provides them with their salt,
Starting point is 00:32:40 but they have worked out that mountaineers, we, and that has salt in it, and so they will spot human mountaineers and follow them until they go to take a wee, and then they will sometimes maul them in the attempt to it drink their excretion.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, you've got to look out. Where do they maul? No, I don't want to know. Don't turtles pee through their mouth. Some species. And there are some. The Fitzroy River turtle breathes through its anus. Oh, no! It's a really cool turtle. It's Australian, I think,
Starting point is 00:33:12 and, yeah, it is. It's in the Fitzroy River, and it lives in water which has a lot of oxygen in it, and its cloacal orifice goes two-thirds of the way along it, and it gets 68% of its oxygen through its bottom. Wow. You do a lot!
Starting point is 00:33:28 Did you know a tortoise was once the fastest animal in the world? No, it wasn't. It really was. Can I guess where you're talking about? You tell it. No, is it the space thing? It is the space thing. Yeah, it's so smart. OK, go on, you can tell it.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Looks like we've got a big head of tortoise in the room. I'm very cost. This was in 1968, and the Soviets sent out a spaceship from Kazakhstan with a tortoise on it, and it was the first animal in deep space, and it travelled round the moon
Starting point is 00:34:02 before returning to Earth seven days later, so for that short amount of time, it was the fastest animal in the world. There were also wine flies, mealworms, and a few other things, but that was the main one. That was the headline grabber, wasn't it? The poor mealworms going, why was there two?
Starting point is 00:34:18 But they were the first lifeforms as well to get around to the moon. Yeah, to go around the back of the moon. So your fact was about the animals, in a way, and we don't know why, there's no evolutionary reason why a lot of animals wet themselves when they're afraid, and it's really weird.
Starting point is 00:34:34 So gazelles wet themselves when they're being chased by lions, not very useful. Well, one theory is that it might send the lions off because they have the scent somewhere else, right? I think that's one theory. But don't they surely chase the scent until they reach the bottom? Yeah, so you pee, and then the lion will stop and go, oh, there's a smell of gazelle pee there,
Starting point is 00:34:50 and then, I mean, that's just one theory. What it is with humans when you get shocked, I think, is somehow your brain gets overridden by the shock, and normally your brain is like, you always want to pee, and your brain's saying, no, don't pee, you're on stage. But you're shocked so much that you end up wetting yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah. It's weird, there's a bit of the brain called the pontine mixturition center, which is constantly saying, let's go, let's do it. Really? Yeah, when your bladder is full, it makes the decision to empty the bladder, and then, but the prefrontal cortex
Starting point is 00:35:22 always overrides the desire. But when you get really, really, really stressed, the limbic system overrides the prefrontal cortex, and so the signals get confused, and then, you know, it's all cold and you're ashamed. But we don't know why, but it's long to start off with. We're going to have to wrap up.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Okay, one more thing? There was a guy whose tortoise had a swollen penis, and he didn't have the money to pay for the operation, and so he went on to one of these lifestyle things, and he needed 200 pounds, and he reached his target
Starting point is 00:35:54 in less than 24 hours. And he went over, he went up to 555 pounds in the end, people really clubbed together and paid for it. And when you gave your money, you could put a little note about what you wanted to say. One person said,
Starting point is 00:36:10 I hope he gets the repair done soon. I know what it's like having a large penis. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER No, it's not so nice. LAUGHTER But at least he gave some money, so... We hope that total's doing well,
Starting point is 00:36:26 and we're going to have to wrap up. So that's it, that's all of our facts. Thanks so much for being here. If you want to get in contact with any of us about the things we've said, you can get us all on our Twitter accounts. I'm on at Shriverland, James. At Eggshapes, Andy.
Starting point is 00:36:42 At AndrewHunterM. And we've got about 53 episodes up on NoSuchThingAsAfish.com. You can listen to those previous episodes there. We're going to be back again for our final live show at the Soho Theatre next week. Yeah, we'll see you again next time. Goodbye. Thanks so much.
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