No Such Thing As A Fish - Little Fish: No Orifice Boy
Episode Date: August 30, 2026James describes the time he inhabited a giant robot, while he, Anna and Andy discuss YOUR facts. This week's subjects include candles, Canada and camphor. And the gang announce eight more Friend of t...he Podcast custodians.Visit nosuchthingasafish.com for news about live shows, merchandise and more episodes.Join Club Fish for ad-free episodes and exclusive bonus content at apple.co/nosuchthingasafish or nosuchthingasafish.com/patreonEdited by James HarkinProduced by Leying LeeTeam includes Tara Dorrell, Joe Mayo and Ethan Ruparelia
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Okay, that's all for now. Onward's show.
Hello, welcome to another episode of Little Fish, LF, the weekly podcast, where we,
the no such thing as a fish team
go through the inbox,
specifically Andy goes through the inbox,
and he takes all of the greatest facts
that you've sent us this week,
and we read them out, back to you.
And they're fantastic, always, without fail.
My name is Anna Tushinsky.
I'm here with James Harkin and Andrew Hunter Murray.
Who's going to start?
I'll start.
In 2020, all three of Scottish football team
Ross County's goalkeepers were named Ross.
Ross Duhin, Ross Lydlaw,
and Ross Munro.
They also had a midfielder called Ross Draper
and a striker named Ross Stewart.
So confusing.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Luckily, it's the surnames that go on the back of the shirts.
But in the middle of a match,
you'll panic and shout Ross, won't you?
And then suddenly the goalkeepers run over to you.
He says what's going on?
You know what?
In football, there's a rule
where you're not allowed to shout my ball
if you're going to go to head it.
Oh, we were always taught this at school.
I'm not sure whether they would punish you.
But basically, if you shout that,
no one knows who you're talking about
and so you might be putting the
opposition off and that's
ungentlemanly conduct
what do you mean no one knows who you are at that time?
Yeah you say my ball and then the defenders go
oh I'm going to leave it to my mate
because you can imagine like a really good
impressionist
playing a football game and doing an impression
of the opposition players
and then they leave the ball
and then you jump through and score
so you're not really supposed to say my ball
you're supposed to say your name
But I wonder if everyone's called Ross, whether you just wouldn't be able to say Ross's ball either.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
I think that's a much better version of football where everyone on the pitch is an impressionist.
And it's trickster football.
And you're blindfolded, so you have to judge whether the impressionist is the guy or not the guy.
The impressionist also lookalikes.
It's very hard to get the team together, but once you've done it, God, it's funny.
Anyway, thank you very much for that fact.
Ross in Sydney.
Good stuff.
Wonderful.
Here's one from Freya Bento, who signs off,
Yes, like the pie.
Like the town in Uruguay.
Yeah.
But that's named after the pies.
Or the pie is named after the town.
Phria Bento.
What an amazing name.
Unbelievable that your parents called you Freya in a cool way.
Love it.
In a cool way.
Yeah, what cool parents.
I wonder if they were huge Freibentos fans.
In the 19th century, Glasgow's Britannia Panopticon,
the UK's oldest wooden music hall,
that's relevant, the wooden bit,
went on fire,
destroying the attic's wax museum
and killing possibly all of the animals
in the basement zoo.
This is not the funny bit.
The upper gallery was saved, however,
due to the amount of people
who pissed on the wood
over the years whilst watching shows,
making it so soggy,
it never caught fire.
No.
Wow.
Yes, there you go.
Good fact.
That's a good reason to urinate publicly.
You never know when there's going to be a fire
this day.
quite often. Do you know that I think it's the Yazidi people are not allowed to urinate onto fire
because fire is sacred and it's like a taboo. I remember they had lots of strange taboos. So that's one of them.
So like for the Y series of QI I was thinking like Alan who wouldn't piss on you if you're on fire
would be quite a good question.
Might not get through but there are so many answers to that question. Loads of people.
That's quite cool
that there was a fire
in a wax museum
so it was like an upside down candle
If you've just flipped it the other way around
You've just got a giant candle
Didn't you say there was waxed on the top floor
Did I make that out?
That was in the attic
Yeah the wax museum was in the attic
Yeah exactly
So normally the fire is on top of the candle
I see
There you go
No that's a really cool point
Otherwise they set fire to your table
Instead of pissing it out
A load of people whose birthday it was
Could come over and blow it out
A lot of good ideas here
And here's another good fact
Wood related again
Ali Mackey says one of the oldest
recorded ice cream flavours is wood
What?
Yeah, times were tough back in the day
Wood
And Ali specifies that China's Tang dynasty
So the 7th of the 9th centuries
Okay
So before rum raisin
Rum raisin was a second actually
Had a recorded recipe for a frozen dairy dessert
that involved camphor wood.
Oh yeah.
Which actually does have a scent,
scented, doesn't it?
So I'm not sure if they left the wood in
once they've added the scent.
I don't think that would be very nice,
camphor.
It's very perfumy,
and I think of it sort of as the thing
you'd use to scent a room or a car.
Yeah, and I think of it as being a scent for a room,
which means it would taste okay, wouldn't it?
I know you wouldn't eat a scented candle or a scent.
What do you talk about?
My incense twiglets are delicious every night.
Yum, yum, yum.
I wonder if when you got your ice cream
you'd stick a piece of camphor
in like a 99 flake.
Oh yeah.
Ice lolly, you could have the
ice lolly stick.
Oh my god, the stick is the lolly is the stick.
Yeah, you wouldn't know where to stop eating,
would you?
Okay, here's another one from Noah Gettle
and Noah says, sorry to keep bothering you with sponge facts.
So I assume there's been a number of emails before this.
Noah is a frequent flyer in the fish inbox.
Welcome back, Noah.
Finally, Noah, you're on the show.
I don't know if Noah has been before.
Maybe once.
But Noah mentioned that most sponges are viviparous, as in they give birth live, like mammals.
But the way they fertilise their eggs is they eat sperm out of the water column and it gets shunted on a different track from the food.
So, like, it goes down a different hole, basically.
How are you doing that?
That's amazing.
Can it go down the wrong way sometimes?
your food goes down the wrong way.
I feel like it does happen, yeah.
Must do.
Sorry, some that sperm went down the wrong way.
And Noah, to get off that subject a little bit,
says there are deep sea glass sponges
that are apparently more than 11,000 years old.
Come off.
Older than farming.
Oh, about the same as farming.
Yeah.
Yeah, about the same as the oldest cultivation of lentils
and the first pottery was invented around this time as well.
And are we thinking that they were responsible in some way?
That's the only logical conclusion, isn't it?
I think so.
There must be a bit of an uncertainty ring on these things.
11,000 plus or minus 3,000 years.
Oh, okay, but even at the very youngest, that's 8,000 years, that's pretty good.
So Noah censors the link and I read through it.
And basically they took some spicules, part of a sponge,
and they looked at the isotopes of oxygen
and various different isotopes
and you can tell how old things are
by using science that I don't really understand.
So cool.
Great.
I've got another underwater one now.
This is from Stephen Elshaschen.
Sorry, Stephen.
Sorry, I've properly screwed up your surname there,
but it's a really cool name.
The only vowel in it is E, but there are three of them.
That's not his fact, amazingly.
Stephen's fact is that
until 2012, half the functioning Canadian submarines were in a shopping mall in landlocked Edmonton, Alberta.
This is so good.
Basically, there was a place, the West Edmonton Mall.
So this was a thing in the shopping mall called Deep Sea Adventure Lake.
And they were real submarines that offered you a 20-minute submarine ride of the underwater artificial lake.
You went down five metres.
This is at the time when...
It must have been huge this mall.
It's a big mall.
They were small subs.
The Canadian military at the time had three submarines
and the West Edmonton shopping mall
had four submarines.
Sorry, were they designed for the mall?
Were they designed for the military?
They were never military.
They were the first ever recreational submarines.
There was a disaster in 1985 when one of them sank,
but it was fine because it was a submarine.
That's what they meant to do, isn't it?
Well, they can't?
Like, submarines can get stuck at the bottom, can't they like,
that's a very good point.
Yeah, yeah. Although this was only five meters down, so it was less.
I don't think anyone ever died in the West Enderment to Mall in a submarine.
Can I tell you about the coolest thing that I've ever been in a mall?
Yeah.
This is pretty cool, actually.
So it was in China in the world's biggest mall, and I forgot what it's called.
I think I've mentioned it here before.
It's like the global mall or something.
Anyway, I was in like a giant robot that was probably, I would say, three times.
height and I would sit on a chair in the robot and I could drive the robot around the mall.
No.
So you're up at the top of it?
I was like in the middle like in its tummy kind of thing.
That's the closest any of us has been to living in the film Pacific Rim.
Yeah.
Were they getting big robots?
It was exactly like that.
Did you have to fight any kaiju?
No, I chased my daughter around who was in a little ice cream fan.
Wow.
Campo or a camphor flake.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, isn't that cool?
They had one of those.
Was it maneuverable?
Was it quite good at moving around?
Well, it was a little bit cumbersome, but I managed to get it around.
How fast could it go?
Oh, slow.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's sensible.
Yeah.
They think of everything these days.
I could crush any skyscrapers with it.
Health and safety gone mad.
But yeah, I was like, because we walked past it.
And I just went to my wife, God, that's pretty cool, isn't it?
She went, you should go on.
I was like, oh, no.
This is probably for kids.
You should go before she could say it the second time I was already there.
I've got a fact here from Mikhail Anderson, whose fact is about Swedish footballer Gustav Lagerbiltk.
Gustav Lagerbiltk is a baron and the top dude of the noble house of Lagerbilk.
I don't know if top dude is an official peerage term in Sweden.
He says, I've not looked into it deeper, but it can't be too common to hold a baronial title and be a football defender at a World Cup.
Wow
Oh, is it the World Cup?
Apparently so.
Do we know if any of our defenders
were in the House of Lord?
Are there any Earls or Vicar?
We all have had the NBA
like David Beckham
But hereditary, come on.
But you're not allowed
to have a gong that you got through doing football.
Do you know what I mean?
Or through doing charity work after football
that's really about the football.
I believe not.
I can't think of anyone
of the landed gentry
who's ever played.
Even professional football.
The first person I could think of
was Jan van
Anagor of Hesselink, which I think like the off part of his name meant that he was of some kind of
gender.
But he was, I think he was Dutch, maybe.
That's cool.
So I was wondering if in some places it's more common to be a member of the landed nobility, only
because I found out recently reading up on the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, as you do,
that there was a time in their history when one million people were nobles, like nobles,
not just gentry, nobility.
It was because they had quite a mad system.
of distributing titles.
It's because they were trying to avoid giving people a pay rise.
They're going to say,
look, we're not, we can't do it in the budget this year.
But I'll tell you what we can do.
We're going to put you in the nobility.
I've got one more.
This is from Elaine.
Elaine says, you may already subscribe to Clive Tompkins Linkfest,
which I don't.
I don't.
No.
It sounds great because I think it's lots of interesting links.
There is a site that has water recipes
that match the waters in,
various different places and sources.
So, for example, if you want to make a coffee like you're in London,
it provides you with a recipe of you need 55% Perrier,
37% harrogate spring, and 8% Aquapana.
And that provides the right hardness and the right calcium,
the bicarbonate.
That's pretty clever.
If you want to feed James' cat.
It's just 100% everywhere.
100% avi.
But I'm interesting because the water in London is rank, I think.
Very hard.
Yeah, coming from the north of England where we get all our water from the Lake District.
It's like, you know, the water in London, I don't like it at all.
So I'm surprised you can make such a horrible thing from three quite nice.
Okay, it's a matter of.
I'm going to stand up for London water here.
Yeah?
It's hard.
I like it.
I like London water.
It takes off the soap really fast.
When you go up north and you're washing your hands and then you put them under it.
It takes about 30 seconds to get all the soap off.
There's no time for that down south.
It's busy.
It's productive.
You can't get bubbles in your bubble bath.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Every three days I have to take out an enormous block of calcium out of my kettle.
I like that.
At no extra cost.
At no extra cost.
You don't need to take it out.
It adds to the flavour over time.
Yeah.
Yeah, it matures the tea.
You can sprinkle it on your food if you run out of salt.
Just a bit of crunchy calcium.
It's lovely.
Anyway, any more for any more?
Yes, I've got one from Lawrence Jan van Stenis.
No idea whether that is a person from the gentry from whatever country.
Probably.
Laurenz Jan is from.
But Laurenz Jan says, I don't think this has been mentioned.
yet, and you're absolutely right, but
Domenico Tedesco just replaced Vincenzo Italiano
as head coach of Italian First Division football team Bologna.
Or maybe you did mention this, Andy.
Or maybe we were just chatting about it.
I think about it a lot, but I never talked about it.
No, really.
The interesting thing about this, as if what I already said
wasn't interesting enough, is that Tedesco means German
in Italian and Italiano means
Italian. In Italian. Well, yeah, in many different languages. So, and more interestingly,
is the fact that Dominico Tedesco was born in Italy and Vincenzo Italiano was born in Germany.
Okay. I'm sorry. So the Italian Mr. German has been replaced by the German Mr. Italian.
Yeah. So that is amazing. That is fun. Amazing. It's good. It's a good fact. So yeah. We get a lot
about football and football names. I certainly get a lot sent to me from Andy.
I think who's going to handle this well, James and Anna.
Yeah, I think we do get a lot, because there's been a World Cup on.
I'd say the recent supply has dried up a little bit in the inbox,
but we're dealing with a bit of a time lag because we, you know,
we get the fact several weeks in advance just have a bit of a buffer.
I see.
Our fans are just kind of topical.
Yeah, it can happen, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was kind of interested that the Italian word for German is Tedesco.
Tedesco, yeah.
Have you heard that before?
No, where's that coming from?
Well, what's the German for German?
Deutschland, right?
And what's the French for German?
Alamagna.
What's the Russian for German?
Do I know?
Nimitz.
What's the English for German?
German.
Isn't it weird that all of those different countries have different words for German?
Completely different.
Isn't that so weird?
And then where's it?
Tedesco, yeah.
So, Tedesco actually comes from a similar background as Deutschland.
It's just those two words.
One has morphed into the other.
Yeah.
But the reason is that Germany was such like a,
a huge conglomeration of lots of different people
that all these countries dealt with a different part of Germany
at different parts of their time.
And sometimes it was like the Germans
or it might be the Alamans
or it might be the, in Russian they called them Nimets
because it means someone who can't speak
because they spoke a different language to them.
In Finnish, it's Saxa, which comes from Saxon.
So basically everyone dealt with Germans.
for the main part of their history at different times
and so they all had different names.
That is really interesting.
Well, can I just do one more
because I thought this was just amazing
and this is from someone called a Lambros
and it's that deer antlers have memory
and the explanation is that if a deer gets injured
at a certain point in their antler one year
so it will make a big gash or a cut or something
there'll be a small callus which will then heal
And then those antlers will shed, as they normally do every year.
And when the antlers grow back the next year in the same spot,
there'll be a line, like an ectopic line, which is a remnant of that injury.
What the hell?
What's going on there?
Because that was just air until you re-grew your antlers.
The spot where that was was just in mid-air.
And how does it know that that spot of air should become an injury again?
Well, I don't think that's the solution.
Whatever the answer is, it's so clearly not that.
I don't think, like when you get a 3D printer, it doesn't go air, air, air, something, something,
er, something, something, something.
I'm running low on air.
Oh, for God's sake.
I've got to buy a new air can of a 3D printer.
This is so typical, so expensive.
I've mis-explained that.
Yeah.
But the thing is, it's amazing.
It is amazing.
That is really incredible.
That is crazy.
Yeah.
I don't know.
And there's a little bonus fact, actually, from Lambros, which is that in Greek, when a man is being cheated on by his partner, we say he has antlers.
So like if we'd say you'd be cuckled it
Yeah
Same in like quite a few countries
It's like the Bulls-Harm thing
Yeah
But why is that?
Because aren't cuckled is about cuckoos, isn't it?
And then is the...
It's about cookies
Cuckoos.
Oh, cuckoos, sorry.
It might be about cookies
But it depends on the marriage, doesn't it?
That was never a factor for us.
Mine actually would break down over that, I can imagine.
Well, it's the old Shane one like thing, isn't it?
Why are you so fat, Shane?
because every time I have sex with your wife, she gives me a cookie.
Yeah.
There we go.
We should probably wrap up, shouldn't we, and move on to the next bit of this show?
And so we are now about to bestow some of our former headline facts on lucky recipients.
Who wants to go first?
I'll go first.
Here is one that goes out to Jane.
Jane, congratulations.
Your fact is now that, according to a recent theory, Stonehenge was built as part of a team building exercise.
Wow.
It was tougher then, wasn't it?
Now you go and do axe throwing or something or a round of golf.
I drove past only the other day.
Did you?
Yeah.
Was there a big old traffic jam next to Stonehenge?
Of course there was.
That's traditional.
And it was very nice.
But I think it's nice because you then get to have a little gort without feeling bad,
despite the fact that you know.
I deliberately don't look at it.
Because I'm like, the reason this traffic jam is here is because people are looking at Stonehenge.
There's no reason for them to be a traffic jam.
It's because people are slowing down to look at Stonehenge.
So I'm not going to look at it.
Wait, what possible better reason could there be
than looking at our greatest monument?
I'm just saying that there's no reason to have a traffic jam
when all I want to do is get to slough.
Yeah, yeah.
What you need to do clearly is make the road a six-lane super highway
at that exact moment just for that 200 metres.
Yeah.
That goes over the top of Stonehenge.
It goes over the top of Stonehenge.
Yeah, yeah.
Fly over.
You need the Henge lane, which is signposted for the next three miles.
If you want the Henge lane.
For Gorpers.
For Gorpers.
Yeah, that's lovely. That's quite good idea.
Well, I don't know why they haven't done that.
Yeah.
Right.
All right, shall I give a fact to somebody?
Sure.
How about this one?
And this is for someone whose name apparently is the fervor of a new convert.
Hmm.
No further questions.
No further questions.
Hey.
This is amazing because this person with the extraordinary name gets the best fact I've ever said,
which is that while digging New York subway.
tunnel in 1916, worker Marshall Maybe got sucked through a pocket of air, blasted up through
12 feet of riverbed, through the river, and then thrown 20 feet into the air. Yes. I think this was a special
request, which we don't do anymore. We did a few in the early days of dishing out facts, but we just,
it's basically too complicated now. Because this wasn't a headline fact. No, it wasn't a headline fact. So
this is actually a bit of a cheeky, cheeky one. When you say it was a special request, was it from,
Was it from the fervor?
I didn't believe it was, yeah, yeah.
It's her name Convert.
Oh, well, Mrs. or Mr. Convert, there you go.
Have that fact.
Although I will say that in...
So Andy, when he's recording all the facts we've said on the show,
he puts a little caveat sometimes after them.
And this one comes with the caveat in brackets.
Much discussion.
Dubious?
Question mark?
Yeah.
He survived.
Two colleagues perished.
Yeah.
So it actually ends with a bit of a tragedy.
And I don't think it is dubious, right?
It was in a newspaper at the time.
It was in a...
A newspaper for goodness sake.
Does it not ring a few bells that his surname is maybe?
Oh my gosh, do you think they accidentally capitalised that?
And actually the article was Marshall Maybe.
Oh, very good.
Okay, here is a fact now that is under the custodianship of Casey Krub.
Casey, your fact is that the Great Wall of China is held together by sticky rice.
Nice.
Very funny.
I've been up the Great Wall of China.
As of I?
Recently.
I haven't.
And the reason I say recently is because I think it's quite new, but I came down on like...
It's not quite new.
It's basically very old.
What magical big robot were you in this time?
Do you know what?
I'm starting to doubt all these stories.
So I came down on a toboggan.
Cool.
So I think that is relatively new.
If you go to like one of the main bits of the Great Wall, you can go up on a cable car,
so you don't have to walk all the way up there.
And you can come down on a little toboggan ride.
When you say go up it, sorry to show my ignorance, but how tall was the wall?
It's on the top of a big old hill.
It famously follows the landscape no matter where it goes, so it goes up and down over.
And it's in a hilly area because it's on a boulder, or it was on a baudom.
Got it.
It was, it's not like a hundred metre high wall that you have to climb up and tobogging down.
So question, James.
There's the main bit of the wall and there are ramparts on either side.
So are you tobogging along the wall in a downhill direction or are you tobogging down the hill?
You're down the hill.
So you start at the wall
and then for the entirety of the toboggan
you're going away from the wall.
I understand.
That's very cool.
Yeah.
It is a really fun thing to do, I have to say.
And the cues for it are outrageous.
I bet.
Just like all cues in China, actually,
for big fun things.
Very, very long.
But the cues for the Great Wall of China,
good grief.
Did you leave skidmocks?
Andy.
What?
Children listen.
Sorry, that's a very childish question.
I went down with my daughter,
My four-year-old daughter, we were in a tobogging together.
Wow, that's a dream.
Yeah, and she was just going faster, faster all the way down.
But if you go too fast, they tell you off.
Here's another one.
Jay Skoines, your fact is that the world's largest single-celled organism
can get up to 12 inches long.
Really good.
How cool is that?
When it's excited.
We probably said.
Sure, we did.
This is a single cell called Kowlerpa taxifola,
and it gets up to a foot long.
It's just one cell.
Really amazing.
Just so cool.
Here's another one for Henry Taysam.
I remember this fact, and this is actually a fact my friend told me,
who is obsessed with snakes,
and it's that if you're bitten by the boomslang snake,
you bleed from every orifice.
Every?
Every.
How many orophices do you have?
I don't have any.
I've had mine removed.
It's not appropriate.
You've had yours filled in.
Just a bit of.
Easy Phil,
wait for it to dry, sand it down
and you just solved a problem
you removed a potential impropriety.
Sorry for being responsible
for the children I encounter on the bus
or passing in the street.
I just don't think it's appropriate
for people that have horror for this.
It's 2026.
Grow up.
Right. Okay.
We've gone to a strange place,
but at least you don't need to fear this snake.
Absolutely.
Well, I don't know what will happen
if the snake bites me.
Yeah, you're right.
Nothing.
There's a booms like snake in the room.
Quick.
Get no orifice by.
Dun da da da da da.
Bumping into the wall.
It's a weird superpower he elected to have, but we gave him the choice.
We said you can have anything, Andy.
He was bitten by a radioactive Kendall.
Oh dear.
There you go, yes.
It thins your blood, doesn't it?
It makes your blood very, very thin, and it spirts out everywhere.
Yeah.
I know Henry Tosin.
Hello, Henry, if you're listening.
Do you?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Okay, the next one goes out to Olivia.
And Olivia, your fact is that Albert Einstein has a social media team.
Yeah, this is all about dead people with social media accounts.
Dead celebrities where the estate is still trading, isn't it?
And there are loads of them around.
Yeah.
Because there are all these weirdly active accounts, you know.
I used to know, I'm sure you have known people who've done.
done, they've had to be the voice of a company on social media.
I used to know a bloke who did, oh God, I can't remember whether it was KFC or something similar.
But actually he did about 17 of them.
And it was just his way of, you know, making ends meet while he, while he works as a comedian.
I imagine if they don't mind giving you leeway to say whatever you want, which some of them, it seems like they really don't care.
Like, is it the Ryanair or EasyJet when they just basically spend the whole time trolling people?
Really?
I think like if they give you the opportunity to do that,
I reckon that's quite a good job for a upcoming comedian.
You cancel my flight and you lost all my luggage
and they just say, ah, ha ha, we'll do it again.
The stupid bastard.
There is a bit of that.
That happens.
Oh, dear.
Here's one more.
This one goes out to Alice
and it's the fact that the very hungry caterpillar
was originally called A Week with Willie the Worm.
Yeah, really good.
the Very Hungry Catapillar.
And Eric Carl, who wrote it.
Yes.
We're all fans.
Although I don't remember if it was originally a caterpillar,
because the big reveal with a worm is what?
It's, you don't get the big double-pacred.
Are you trying to avoid the spiler for the very hungry caterpillar?
Look, I just don't want to ruin it.
No, you're right.
He wouldn't go into the chrysalis or...
He might get chopped in two.
It must be that.
It must be, oh, magic, it's two worms.
But then he's got another friend.
Yeah.
That's a nice ending.
is to share all the food with them.
Isn't that a good lesson?
This feels like a better lesson for kids actually
because the very hungry caterpillar
just teaches you how great it is to be beautiful
but a week with Willie the Worm
teaches you how good it is to have a friend
to share with.
Does it teach you as good to be beautiful?
That's certainly the lesson I've tried to drill in to children.
It basically says as long as you keep eating
non-stop for a week, that's it.
You're going to be really, really fit.
Yeah.
It's a misleading piece of literature.
I think we can agree.
There is, I think people like,
kids have written into Eric Carl and said, actually all caterpillars only live on single leaves
and they never have any variation in their diet whatsoever. And also they all go into either
Chris Liss's or cocoons, which is the opposite of whatever Eric Carl said. Get it right, Eric. I'm with the
kids. On Monday he ate a leaf and on Tuesday ate two of the same kind of leaf. This is what you
want children. This is Chen Zed. And at the end of the week,
He felt quite sick and didn't really like the look of himself when he looked in the mirror.
But he resolved that that's fine and he's got next week to change things.
He got on a Zempig prescription and everything's okay now.
Boo.
Righty-ho, last fact for the day, I think.
And this is for Shannon O'Keefe.
And this is a fact that in World War II, the 20 committee was in charge of turning German spies.
In Roman numerals, that made them the XX committee, i.e.
the double cross committee.
Very strong.
Did they think of the committee number
after they thought of the main job of the committee?
Maybe.
I think they did, yes.
This was a fact by Anne Miller,
who has been on the podcast many times.
And is a big spy fan, isn't she?
In fact, has written entire novels about spies for children.
Yes, entirely factually accurate,
unlike the very hungry caterpillar or the animal spies.
She's not mixing out burqoons and her chrysalises.
Oh, no.
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