No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Dirty Pair Of Jeans

Episode Date: June 7, 2014

Episode 14: This week in the QI Office Dan Schreiber (@schreiberland), James Harkin (@eggshaped), Andrew Hunter Murray (@andrewhunterm)Anna Ptaszynski (@nosuchthing) & Freddy Soames (@fsoames) discuss Charlemagne's tablecloth, Charles Lindbergh's fan mail, the original members of the Mile-High club and more...

We run it on QI a few years ago. Yeah. Which was, there's no such thing as a fish. You mean it's No Such Thing as a Fish? No, seriously. It's in the Oxford Dictionary of Underwater Life. He says it right there. First paragraph, No Such Thing as a Fish.

Hey, everyone. Welcome to another edition of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Covern Garden. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting here with the regular three QI in elves, Anna Chesensky, Andy Murray, and James Harkin, and we've got joining us today on fact-checking Judy's Freddy Soames. And once again, we have gathered around the microphones in our offices to tell each other our favorite facts from the last seven days. So, in no particular order, here we go.

First up, it's James. My fact this week is that the CEO of Levi's Chip Berg hasn't washed his jeans in more than a year. So when you first mentioned this to us. I thought that wasn't that surprising because I didn't really wash jeans and didn't realize that was a thing. I was shocked and I wanted to know where his mother was and I washed my jeans every day. But Andy eats crisps off a plate. Come on. That's true. You can't trust his household habits.

But apparently I'm right, right? So a jeans aficionado is on my side. Well, there are lots of people who think that you shouldn't wash jeans because it fades the colors and it spoils the fabric. but that's people who work for genes companies, not so much microbiologists, who tend to think that you probably should wash them because there's going to be lots of bacteria on there. So how much bacteria are we talking? Okay, so there was a student at the University of Alberta called Josh Lay or Lee, and he as an experiment wore the same pair of jeans for 15 months without washing them. And after two weeks, he found that he had around 1,000 to 2,000 bacteria per squirre. centimeter. That was on the front of the genes,

1500 to 2,500 on the back, and between 8,000 and 10,000 in the crotch area. Lovely. I wonder how many more that is than we have on our skin. Yeah. Well, yeah. You do have bacteria on your skin. We have, we have 10 times more bacterial cells than human cells in our bodies, is that right? Yes, most of them are very small cells in the gut, but 90% of you is not human. Yeah. And doesn't, isn't that where all the smell comes from? I seem to remember saying this to you guys a long time ago, but that's where

That's why you smell. It's not you. It's a little animal, lads. It's a very poor excuse on a date, though. It's not me. It's the 90% of cells which aren't me in my body. So if someone ever says to you, oh, you smell of sweat today. You should say, no, I smell of bacterial feces, actually. In your face. Where are you going? Don't get in that taxi. I see promise for us. So I don't know. Do you just not do anything with your jeans, Anna, or do you put them in the freezer like, people do. I don't really understand this freezer thing. What's the freezer thing? Well, that's what this guy from Levi says that instead of washing, you can kill the bacteria by putting your jeans in the freezer. And one, it means that it doesn't fade the genes and what have you, but two, it also will save water. And apparently people are using a lot of water all the time uselessly for

washing their jeans. So that's a bit like, that's like a cool way of cleaning in the same way, Remember the person who used to have an asbestos tablecloth? Oh yeah, Shalameen. Charlemagne? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know about that, Andy? No. Okay, so like Dan says exactly that,

he had an asbestos tablecloth. After each meal, he would take it out, throw it in the fire, and then let the fire clean it, and then he would bring it out and use it again. Did he die young by any chance? No. Can I tell you my favorite thing about this Levi's facts?

Yeah, go on. Is that I just like that the head of Levi's wears Levi's. Yeah. It's just, I love any time you hear a story where someone uses the thing that they created or that they're the head of. Like when I was wearing my No Such Thing as a Fish T-shirts at QI recordings this week. Exactly, yeah. There's no shame to buy online.

In New Zealand. Not from us. Not from us. I like it even more so when you see the company getting in trouble for something to do with their own company. Like, for example, Jimmy Wales, who created Wikipedia, got in trouble for editing his own Wikipedia page. Which is the top line of what you're not meant to do. and he got busted for it. And I don't know what he was thinking

because it comes up as edited by Jimmy Wales. I think we tweeted this the other day and Freddie you might have to check which unions they were, but there's an American uni that are guidelines on plagiarism and it was all plagiarized from another American. Oh, yeah, that's a great fact. That was, yeah, it's a QI tweet if you can find that. Do we know who invented jeans, by the way?

Well, there's a difference between jeans and blue jeans. You know, the blue jeans that everyone wears today. Yeah. We're invented in the late 19th century in America. but this is cool. There have been paintings discovered from the 1650s where people are wearing

the blue cloth sort of fixed in with white which is the proper gene fabric and the artist is unknown but he's called the Master of the Blue jeans and so in one there's a peasant wearing a blue skirt another there's a boy in a ripped dark blue jacket

and it looks like they're wearing jeans in the 1600 yeah and double denim it's very very cool is that in Neem because that's where it comes from denim doesn't it supposedly? Denim is from Neem

or it's either Either there, or it's from Genoa in Italy, which is where they think we might get the word jeans from. But that's not blue jeans with the rivets. Those were the ones which took over the whole world. Yeah. But Levi's didn't call their product jeans, did they for a long time? I think for the first 107 years, they called them Waste Overalls.

Really? We had a fact in one of our books that half of the world's population are wearing jeans at any one time. Oh, yeah. I can't remember where it came from. I think it kind of missed, maybe. I know where it came from. Oh, go on.

Well, it was a man called Miller. who visited lots and lots of countries. And in every country he visited, he stopped and counted the first hundred people to walk by. And in each one, he found that almost half the population were wearing jeans on any given date, which is unbelievable. Yeah. It's fantastic. I'm wearing jeans now.

I'm wearing jeans. Yeah, me too. I'm not wearing jeans. Around this table is smelling. Just going back to not really washing, etc. There was a very famous dirty celebrity. in the 19th century, I think. I thought you were going to say the 1970s.

He was called Dirty Dick. You know Dirty Dick's pub? Oh yeah. It's on Liverpool Street, near Liverpool Street Station, on Bishop's Gate. And what happened was on his wedding day, his fiancé died, very sadly. And then after that, he refused to wash or clean for the rest of his life and lived in this place in London. And he became really famous for being dirty and never washing.

And if you sent any letters, addressed to the dirty warehouse London, they would always get to him because he was so famous for being dirty. Well, there wasn't Washington. Queen Victoria thought Washington was really bad for you as well, didn't she? All the people did. Yeah, in 19th century, very unvashionable. Okay, before we move on, Freddie, have you got anything to add? Yeah, so the tweet that was on Quicabedia the other day

was that a university in Oregon has plagiarized the section on plagiarism in its student handbook from the section on plagiarism in Stanford University's handbook. Wow, so good. And we took that tweet from OMG Facts. Okay, let's move on to fact number two, and this fact is my one. It's a long one. So, I was just, I found this pretty astonishing.

The first successful transatlantic flight, which happened in 1919, was made by two guys from Manchester. But it's one of those trips where it was just a complete disaster, but they managed to do it. But my favorite bit about the fact is that at one point, they got completely lost while they were in the air. They were just covered in cloud and fog, and when they came out of the cloud and fog,

thinking that they were 13,000 feet in the air, it turned out they were only 60 feet above the water, and not only that, that they were flying sideways on a 90-degree angle to the surface of the ocean. How would you not know? I always know when I'm at 90 degrees because of gravity. Were they so tense while they were flying

that they just didn't... Oh, so stiff and upright that they didn't really like. They were so tense. Now, I got this from Bill Bryson's book, One Summer, America, 1927. He was saying this is how tense it was for them to do it. The guy who was in front, who was called Alcock, was holding onto the wheel. They didn't have a cover over them. It was like a convertible plane.

And the other guy's job, who was Brown, had to sit forward and using his two index fingers as kind of windshield wipers on the goggles of Alcock. That was his job to basically just be wiping them away. He also had to jump out onto the wings of the plane six times in order to knock icing off and get back on. Ice. You mean ice. They flew through the great cake adrift. So when was this?

What year was this? 1919. They did the first transatlantic crossing, but they went from Canada, didn't they? They went from Newfoundland to Ireland. Yeah. But at one point, they even went the wrong way. They did a loop and started heading back towards Canada. It is pretty easy to get disorientated, I think, when you're flying.

Shame on me, I can't remember who it was, but there was an explorer who was in a balloon, and he went up very, very high, and sort of passed out or fell asleep or something like that, and then when he woke up, he thought he'd landed, and so decided to get out of the plane to just walk on the snow, which he saw below, and only when he was halfway out of the balloon did he realise that it wasn't snow, it was actually the clouds, and he was still 20,000 feet up. Oh my god. In 1914, when you look at the military use of airplanes, there's this fact here that the French Air Corps

had the largest air force in the world, larger than Germany, Britain, Italy, Russia, Japan, and Austria, all combined. And they only had three dozen planes. And that was the largest in the world. So how many did the rest of us have? Four. Each or between us? We shared.

Each, and America had two. and in the space of four years they went up to Britain having 55,000 Germany having 48,000 Italy having 20,000 and France still had 36 yeah do you want to hear something cool about Lindberg

who made the first solo flight from New York to Paris he was the 19th person to cross the Atlantic in a plane really? Yeah was he the first solo then or? He was the first solo New York to Paris that was the thing and New York is a much further distance because obviously it's further down the coast.

So lots of people talk about the amazing length you went to to cut down the weight of the plane and he even cut the top and the bottom off his map so that it would save a couple of ounces. But he also had this thing. He said, I had an arm burst cup which is a device for condensing the moisture from human breath into drinking water.

How cool is that? Why don't we still have these? He didn't realize how famous he was going to be, did he? He knew he might be in the papers, so he subscribed to a cutting service that would send all the, newspaper cuttings to his mother's house, thinking it would just be a few here or there.

But of course it was in every single newspaper for days and days and days. And by the end of his first week, his mother discovered to her horror that a fleet of trucks was preparing to deliver several tons of newspaper articles to our house. Reports were at the time, like if he left something on his plate, you know, a meal, like corn on the cob, the waiters would fight over it because that would become a really precious item. Like a drummer's drumstick after a gig. Yeah, exactly.

An actual drumstick. So, the Wright Flyer was the Wright brothers plane that they first flew. And what's the highest altitude that any part of it reached? Oh. 20 feet. I'm thinking it's a QI question, so I think I know the answer. Yeah, go on. Is it the moon?

It's so the moon. Well done. Of course. Another one of Neil's little trinket. Who brought it up, Neil Armstrong got it up. It brought up a bit of the wing, please. We had a few series ago Buzz Aldrin on Museum of Curiosity, sister show to QI and no such thing as a fish,

cousin of no such thing as a fish. And I found this fact that I hadn't read in any of his biographies. I can't even remember where I found it now, but I mentioned it to him in person because I thought this is going to be amazing to say to Buzz Aldrin. I discovered that his dad was mates with one of the Wright brothers. Oh. So within the father's lifetime, he knew the first person,

to fly a plane and his son became the first well second person to stand on the moon and so I said to him you might have actually met him because you were at the same Air Force base where your dad and he worked and he went yeah I guess so and he just wasn't interested at all I thought I delivered I think it's the way you tell him Dan the right brother's dad told them that they were never allowed to fly together didn't he because he was right that one of them was going to die so they only flew together once in their whole lives. And you know, on that, so after their first flight in the Wright Flyer, um, in 1983, I think it was, then, so they, they took turns flying and they had goes on it, and they flew further and further. And then they had a chat about it, stood next to the plane,

had a chat about it. And the right flyer never flew again after that day because a gust of wind picked it up and flipped it over a bunch of times and broke it? Yeah, just as they were talking. They were like, oh shit, there goes that. Do you guys know who was the first woman to fly solo in an airplane? Is it not a female lady human? Is it a female animal? Is it a female ant? tortoise. It's not even a QI thing. It's just a question.

And it's a question to which none of you know the answer. Tell us the answer. God, damn it. It was Blanche Stuart Scott. Of course. Because the story was quite good, because she was the first woman to fly solo in an airplane.

She reached 40 feet, and it was in 1910. And she was a friend of an aviator called Glenn Curtis. And he, like was a time in those days, nobody thought a woman should really be in an airplane. And he allowed her. to sort of taxi around the airfield in the airplane, but she wasn't allowed to take off.

And then something happened, we don't know what happened, on September 2nd in 1910, and she managed to take off and ended up going up to 40 feet in the air. And no one really knows how she managed to do it, because what he would do is he would insert a block of wood behind the throttle to stop her from reaching the necessary speed to take off. Did it seem that a woman would not have the intelligence to remove a block of wood? From behind a throttle.

Because my theory is that's probably what she did. Or it might have come loose itself. And did she land it? Yeah. So she didn't die. No, she didn't die. Okay, that's good news. Good old Blanche.

I have a fun fact about the guy who invented the autopilot. Oh, cool. Who was Lawrence Ferry, who I think you're familiar with Andy. But so he also inadvertently invented something else, which was the Mile High Club. Sorry, I was going to make that like a tension thing, why I got you to guess? And then I decided to tell you the answer.

So yeah, in 1916, he was going flying lessons to this socialite called Mrs. Waldo Pierce, whose husband, to make this story a bit more poignant, was driving an ambulance in France at the time in the war. Her husband was friends with Ernest Hemingway, by coincidence. So Lawrence Berry, autopilot inventor, Mrs. Waldo Pierce, go up in his plane. He uses his autopilot to fly the plane for a while while he has a quick bit of whatever euphemism. How's your father? Rumpy pumpy. with Mrs. Waldo, and the plane crashed.

Something went wrong with the autopilot. People think that they kicked it during their relations and kicked the autopilot, of course, and the plane crashed into a duck pond, and they were found unclothed by duck hunters. Fortunately, her husband was driving an ambulance nearby. Sparry claimed they'd been divested by the force of the crash when they emerged from the plane not wearing any clothes.

Isn't there a fact that the first ever hot air balloon trip there was some hanky-panky going on in there not the first ever because I think that was the Mongolia brothers who I'd be interested in it George Biggin and Letitia Sage went up in a balloon organised by an Italian man called Lunardi but he got out just at the last minute

and it went over Piccadilly and as it went over Piccadilly people could see Sage on all fours although she maintained that she was not having sex I think she said she was looking for something although I can't remember for sure And all of her clothes had fallen off in the excitement of going up.

And so then later on in these big wager books that they have in London clubs, one wager reads, Lord Chumbly has given two guineas to Lord Derby to receive 500 guineas whenever his lordship plays hospitals with a woman in a balloon 1,000 yards from the earth. Maybe people's clothes were just much more poorly designed in the olden days. Maybe they just never washed their jeans and they just fell up. Crumbling away. Okay.

line from back number three, and that is Anna's. Yeah, my fact is that in 2007, a woman called Evan Latimer, inherited Napoleon's penis from her father. So that happened. Yep. So, basically, at Napoleon's autopsy in 1921, there were 17 doctors present, and it's thought that his physician, his main doctor, cut off his penis. We know that bits of his body were removed, so his heart was removed because he wanted it sent to his wife, his estranged wife, although it never got to her, and there's a theory that it was eaten by rats. And anyway, then it was later admitted by one of the doctors who was there that other bits of Napoleon's body were also removed.

So it resurfaced at the beginning of the 20th century from the family of the priest, who was also present at the autopsy, whom the physician had given it to. And yeah, it was put up, it was sold to a collector, and it's been sold at various auctions, and it's been on display in New York in 1927. sell it for? Only $3,000 he bought it for. In 1977, that would have been more money. A bit more, but not that much. Also, it was questionable whether it was his penis at all. But was this woman upset that, you know, did her elder sister get the Duke of Wellington's

penis in the bill or something? Was it was the whole bequested penises of one size of shape or another? Because his penis is certainly diminutive. It measures 1.5 inches now. And there is a defense that it wasn't very well preserved. So there's been some shriveling. But it's been likened to various things. It's been likened over the.

years by people who've seen it to shriveled eel, beef jerky and a bit of leather, and it's 1.5 inches. Yeah, it was described as a mummified tendon, I believe, when he removed it. Yes. Which is a very delicate way of describing a severed penis. Yeah. Certainly better than shriveled eel. I first read this fact in a book called the Antiques Magpie, which is really good.

And it's written by an Antiques Roadshow expert. He thinks that the reason the Willie was lopped off was because the physician was annoyed of being left out of Napoleon. will. I read it that was the chaplain who wanted it done as an act of

revenge because Napoleon kept calling him impotent. Well he did give it to the chaplain so maybe they both had a chat in the pub one night and he was like, I'm really pissed off

in Napoleon, I'm not in his will and the chaplain was like, I'm pissed off in Napoleon too he's called me impotent and they agreed to it. Maybe they each got half which explains its size. That's such a good point.

It's actually three inches we've been unfair. The thing is that after Napoleon was captured at Waterloo all of his belongings were sent on tour around England, very much like the X Factor Roadshow today, for example. So his carriage was sent around the country, and it drew crowds.

It had little objects that he had owned, like a gold tongue scraper, a flesh brush, and a chocolate pot. Oh, sorry, what's a flesh brush? I think, I'm not certain, it's a brush with hard bristles that you use to stimulate your skin and stimulate blood flow, but I am not certain. Did you guys know that this is a bit of research that I did in the B series, and no one liked it? Napoleon had a little genie that he used to talk to, called the Red Man. Little 1.5 inch dried-up genie. Honestly, it's small, but it works magic. Just rub it, just rub it.

No, he had a, it's apparently someone who, before big battles used to come from the stars called the Red Man, is what he called them, the Red Man. And he first appeared during the Battle of the Pyramids. and supposedly Napoleon said he made a pact, a 10-year pact with this genie. Oh, weird. Rasputin's penis, that was sold. And it turned out later to be a dried up piece of sea cucumber. And not a penis at all.

Can you imagine all the women who were disappointed in the bedroom by that? And Tutankar Moon, another famous person, was the only mummy who was buried with an erect penis. Wow. Someone else is or his own? Yes, yes, yeah. One of the best sentences said out loud in this office, I'm convinced, was one night when me and James were sitting here and putting music to one of the No Such Thing as a Fish podcast. And in a moment of silence, where James saw, oh, I've got, you know, I should just start a conversation. James said to me, hey, did you know over 600 men in the world have two dicks?

Yeah, no, that is true. 600 men have two dicks. There was a circus performer who had two penises. Do you remember him? No. I can't remember his name. I missed that. I missed when I was seven that Zippos circus.

You were concentrating on the clouds and the elephants. Yeah. I can see the man exposing himself by the door of the tent. It's true. I'm not sure he was part of the circus. Thinking about it, it might be two men. So the guy was called Juan Baptiste. Dost Santos and he was known as the man with two penises.

And he was born in Faro in Portugal in 1843. And in 1865 he turned down the sum of 200,000 francs to appear for two years with a French circus. Impressive guy. That would be very difficult for his tailor though. Which way does sir dress to the left? No, actually both. Both to the left and the right. Okay, moving on to our final third.

Back to the show. Fact number four, Andy, yours. My fact is, to say I don't care about something, a German person has the option of saying, it's sausage to me. Or in German, das is me a worst. Yeah, so there's a rich heritage of sausage sayings in Germany. There's another one which suggests that it's very important, is that sausage is very important, where you say, is get undivost, which is it's all about the sausage. Anyway, this is from a blog on Oxford Dictionary's website from the OUP. They have other ones like, if you're sulking, you aren't playing the offended liver patte. The beleidig de labour worst spielin.

That's like, I think that's like referring to the bottom lip sticking out, isn't it? It's like a bit of liver. What is it? They have a sausage academy, I believe. You can get a sausage diploma in Germany. Hang on, is it a diploma that's also a sausage? It's a real thing. I also have a sausage diploma. I got it from Banga University.

Anna's right. There's 1,300 students have earned certificates. At the sausage academy, they learn things like what's the right mustard to put with what sausage and which is the best lager to drink with it. In America, they have the National Hot Dog Academy, and they do a similar thing. They have rules about eating hot dogs. And so, for instance, one of them is don't take more than five bites to finish a hot dog. For footlong weaner, seven bites are acceptable. And also, don't use ketchup on your hot dog after the age of 18.

Mustard, relish, onions, cheese and chili are acceptable. The first hot dog eating competition was held in 1916, which I think was in the States, so the year before they entered the war when they were still larking around. And the winner ate 13 Frankfurters. I don't know in what time scale that was, but recently, the latest record I've found was from last year where a man ate 69 hot dogs in 10 minutes with buns. I highly recommend to anyone listening if they want to find out more about this kind of hot dog eating competition stuff. I just read an article by John Ronson in his book Lost at Sea called The Hunger Games,

and he interviews the top. The person who set that record that Andy just read out, it's John Ronson interviewing him, and it's phenomenal the industry. The great breakthrough was a very small, slight-looking, I think Japanese man. who came up with the incredible innovation that you don't have to chew your way through the buns, you dip them in water, which makes them a lot smaller,

a lot easier to swallow quickly and revolutionise the game. That was the Fosbury Flot moment in competitive hot dog eating. But actually, there is controversy whether you should be allowed to do that or not. It sounds like cheating to me. I definitely think you shouldn't,

I'm afraid to say. No. I found there's a Japanese book which is, it's published in Edinburgh, and it's called The Insider's Guide to Scotland. Obviously, though, with a Japanese title. That's the translated title.

And in the book, they advise anyone from Japan visiting Scotland to avoid eating the sausages. Oh. Yeah. Speaking of parts of the UK and sausages, there is a Welsh product called Dragon Sausages. And it had to be taken off the shelves because it didn't contain any dragons. Right. Yeah. A Powis County Council spokesman said,

the product was not sufficiently precise to inform a purchaser of the true nature of the food. there's a man called David Harding in London who's become the first official sausage addict and he's spent more than two grand on therapy to try and get over it because he can't live he says I genuinely cannot bear the thought of living without sausages he thinks he's had at least one sausage a day since he was three

and he's having therapy to why would why would you need therapy to get over that just buys they're not going anywhere just buy another sausage oh yeah that's that's your attitude to old drugs isn't it cocaine everywhere why don't you just carry on just have some more cocaine for heaven's sake man up um sausages are very elderly

um cold they are they've got a long and noble history haven't they i've found a lot of things online i don't need to properly stack it up but i think they are older than ancient rome yes i'm pretty sure they are um i think poma mentions one

There's an Aristophanes play called The Knights, as in Knights of the Round Table, in which a sausage seller beats a demagogue in conversation over politics because he knows how to do all the stuff like mincing up policies and stuff them and dress them up, looking all nice and pretty. They say laws are like sausages, don't they? Yeah. Was it Bismarck? It was Bismarck who said it. Laws are like sausages. It's best not to watch them being made. Something like that.

So we were talking about how old sausages are. They were banned, or blood sausages were banned by Leo the Wise. He ruled in the 10th century, and he banned the blood sausage, and the pronouncement was like this. It said, we hereby forbid all persons either to use or sell it. And we give notice that if anyone should, in contempt of divine law, have been found to have prepared blood as food, whether he sells or buys it, he shall have all his property confiscated. Wow. And after being severely scourged and disgracefully shaved, he shall be exiled for life. Disgracefully shaved.

What is that? That's wonderful. That's very funny. The Catholic Church bound them in the fourth century as well, because they were thought to be a part of pagan rituals, which they were often. Hey, this is really exciting. There's a bunch of forgotten grim fairy tales stories. And one of them is called The Mouse, the Bird and the Sausage. A mouse with a bird of the sausage.

the house together for a while and things are going well. Bird's job was to fly into the forest every day, bring back wood, mouse carried water, let the fire set the table. Sausage did the cooking. Making sure their meals were properly flavoured by rolling round in them. I think we should wrap up. Yeah, okay. Freddie, do you want to add anything before we wrap up?

Yeah, I have one thing. It's kind of mundane, but pretty impressive all the same. So, ASDA actually commissioned in 2000, the creation of the world's longest sausage. And it was made in Sheffield, and it measured 59.14 kilometers. Kilometers? Yeah, 36.75 miles.

Wow. Did they just not turn on the thing which divides the sausages up? You know? So they just have a continuous production line of one sausage. That must be it. Oh, that's great. Good fact. They also one of the world's most frightening penis metaphor with that.

Napoleon looked on with envy. Okay, that's it for this episode of No Such Thing as a Fish. That is all of our facts. If you want to talk to us about any of the things that we've mentioned in this podcast, you can get us all on our Twitter handles. I'm at Shriverland. Anna is not on Twitter still, but... Have you seen the push?

There's a big push for you to get on Twitter now. From you three. Trending in this office only. Yeah. But if you do want to ask any questions about the podcast, if you go to QI.com slash podcast, and there's the email address you can write to me on. There you go. You can write to Anna on there. James? My Twitter is at Egg Shapes.

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