No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Funny Nazi

Episode Date: May 30, 2014

Episode 13: This week in the QI Office Dan Schreiber (@schreiberland), James Harkin (@eggshaped), Andrew Hunter Murray (@andrewhunterm) Anna Ptaszynski (@nosuchthing) & special guest Lieven Scheir...e (@Lievenscheire) discuss Disney's war effort, the rules of pillow fighting, stoned dolphins and more...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We run it on QI a few years ago. Yeah. Which was, there's no such thing as a fish. You know it's no such thing as a fish? No, seriously. It's in the Oxford Dictionary of Underwater Life. He says it right there. First paragraph, No Such Thing is a Fish.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Covent Garden. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting here with three other QI elves, Andy Murray, Anna Chazinsky, and on our fact-chisinsky. and on our fact-checking duty today, James Harkin. Once again, we're gathering around the microphone to share our favorite facts from the last seven days. And joining us today is a special guest, a comedian from Belgium, Levin Schuyre. Hi.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Hi. How's it going? Well, very good. I'm here, so that's great. Yeah, we're very excited to have you here. Levin is basically the Stephen Fry, Belgium. You have a show out there called Skyra in the Creation, which is a panel show in which you have sort of comedians
Starting point is 00:01:02 as well as interesting guests from all sorts of categories, wine tasters, that's one I saw. Yeah, yeah, it's a panel show. It's much like QI, you know. I think I secretly, I want to make QI in Belgium. Now I have to find a channel that wants to host it. I just remember, you got to headline the gig at CERN, right? Yes, that was last summer.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I was performing at CERN, which was absolutely amazing being a physicist stand-up comedian. Yeah, I could do all my geeky jokes. That's great. All right, shall we kick into it? Should we get fact number one on the way? Okay. Fact number one.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We're going to start with you, Levin. Yes, my fact is that during the Second World War, the Nazis employed two official Nazi comedians. That's a stodershig. Yeah, they were called Trann and Heller, and they did funny sketches, and I think Tran was the fat, stupid one, and then Heller would be the perfect man.
Starting point is 00:01:53 There's a few still on YouTube, but I must warn you, they are utterly not funny. So surprising, Nazis. Well, they all have this war propaganda, the scenarios like I remember one where Tran was sitting in his living room and he was reading a biography of Churchill that was given to him by his Jewish neighbor. But luckily hella arrived and said, Tran, what are you doing? That's all lies. And that was about it. That's the punchline. This is why central government shouldn't get involved in comedy writing. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But they stopped this shows before the end of the war because the German people watching this were all sympathising with the stupid fat guy and not with this impossibly perfect heller and they were even the stupid comedian was banned from the Nazi party because of this yeah yeah they're really not funny are they I watched one of them which sounds really similar about where he's listening to the radio
Starting point is 00:02:49 and he's being told by hella to not listen to Western broadcasts and he trans says I think I can make up my own mind about what's the truth and what's not and hella goes no no you can't you don't understand you wouldn't understand any of this you have to be told by the state what's right and wrong. And when you're watching it, you're going, well, this tall guy who's saying you have to be told
Starting point is 00:03:07 where the state what's right and wrong is obviously the bad guy here. And clearly I like the short fat bloke who's going, can I just listen to whatever program I want, please? So it was bizarre that they didn't realize. That they didn't con on to, yeah. Sometimes they try to do a punchline. And, well, it's always a bit pathetic when they're trying,
Starting point is 00:03:23 even more when there's no punchline. I remember one where Tram was using all his bread coupons, even though he didn't need them and he had all this old bread in his kitchen and then Hella was coming and you can't do this and what do you do with it? Well I give it to the chicken you can't give it to the chicken and the other Germans need this bread and this war is hard on everybody
Starting point is 00:03:44 and then Hella says but what about the chicken and that was it again you totally sympathize with the chicken when you listen to that that's a really endearing perspective war was hard on the poultry it's interesting in wartime how comedy is used
Starting point is 00:04:00 in propaganda. I was really shocked by the number of Walt Disney and Warner Brothers cartoons that were made featuring Hitler and Bugs Bunny in the same sketch. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, there was scenes of Daffy Duck on the top of Hitler smacking his face and knocking his mustache off him and stuff. I found, I found German anti-Nazi jokes from the war. I found them very interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So one joke in Berlin during the last months of the war was that in Berlin, the optimists are learning English and the pessimists are learning Russian. Or another one, two people conversing, one says, what are you going to do after the war ends? Well, I'm going to finally go on a holiday and I'll take a trip around Greater Germany. Oh yeah, what are you going to do in the afternoon?
Starting point is 00:04:43 That kind of thing. Some of them kind of still funny, I think. When the RAF is in the skies, the Germans take cover, when the Luftwaffe is in the sky, the Allies take cover. When the US Air Force is in the skies, everyone takes cover. Which, you know, kind of still applies. Nazis banned apes from making the Hitler salute. Yeah. On pain of death for, I think, both ape and the person who trained the ape.
Starting point is 00:05:07 During the early 30s, there were a lot of satirical comedians who made fun of the Hitler salute. And some animal trainers in circuses trained their apes to give a hitler salute. Yeah, they'd dangle the food, wouldn't they? So they had to just reach their arm out of that precise angle. And the Nazis, unsurprisingly, took quite a dim view of that, and then made it punishable by death. By death. Yeah. Were any apes ever executed?
Starting point is 00:05:30 I don't know. I got it from a book about humor in Hitler's Germany and I haven't found any concrete examples. Was that a long book? I think 10 years ago a man was arrested in Germany for training his dog to do the Hitler salute. Really? Wow. That's quite impressive. 10 years ago, I think, and he had trained him and he was walking around a park and every time he would pass a foreigner, he would command his dog to do a Hitler salute. Wow. Yeah, fair enough. Arrest him. Yeah, absolutely. Did you know England in 2004 had a state jester? No?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah. Who was it? State Chester. It's a guy called Nigel Roder. And he won a competition to become the official state jester. But there was too many complaints. So he got his title removed. What were they complaining about?
Starting point is 00:06:18 The sour grapes that they hadn't been given? Yeah, yeah. It basically said that the English heritage should not be allowed to use the title of state jester. A lot of people are just like, you can't be the state jester. We're all jesters. It's less funny when it's a state comedian as well. Apparently, Eric Idol says that Prince Charles asked him to be the official court jester, and he said no. The mayor of Reykjavik is a stand-up comedian.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Really? Yeah. They had a, well, they had a very, very rough time during the financial crisis in Iceland. And then he started a mock party. He said, like, yeah, all these old politicians, they've all failed. And he started a mock party. And I think he wanted an ice bear in the eyes bear in the eyes. Iceland zoo. Well, the Iceland zoo at this point only has, I think, a cow and a rabbit.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He wanted to legalize drugs, but only inside the parliament building. That was his program. That's great. And he won. And has he carried out any of his promises? No, I don't think so. I don't think there's a nice bear there. He's like all the others. He surrounded himself with very good advice because he realized that, well, I come to politics. I know nothing about it and he's doing very well. People are very happy with how he rules Reikiwi. That's great. Other Mayor of London is a comedian of sorts. Yeah, I've noticed. Well, Eddie Isard wants to run in 2020.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Indeed. So, you know, could be a running thing. Could be. We should move on. James, before we do, have you got any facts you want to chuck in? You were talking about the Walt Disney and Warner Brothers propaganda. Donald Duck was in DeFiura's face where he breaks down after experiencing a nightmare where he has to make do with eating ridiculous Nazi food rations, such as a smell of bacon and eggs, coffee made with one bean, and a slice of stale bread.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Wow. And then Commando Duck, Donald Duck, by himself, destroys an entire Japanese airbase. That sounds amazing. Anything else? Yeah, Levin was talking about the dog who was doing the Hitler salute. I found it on the Daily Mail website under the headline, Howl Hitler.
Starting point is 00:08:26 and they arrested this guy whose dog was doing the Hitler salute and a spokesman Eva Marie Conig said we are retraining him to stop him raising his leg too high he doesn't have anything that would make him interesting to right-wing extremists however we think he will quickly find a new owner because he is so famous okay time for fact number two
Starting point is 00:08:53 this one's my fact so this fact is that the Philippines Basketball Association which is the second oldest in the world after the NBA, have 10 teams in total, and their names include the Rain and Shine Elasto Painters, the San Miguel Beer Men, and Tolkien Tex-Tropang Textors. So it's a lot of teams with no integrity at all,
Starting point is 00:09:14 just selling out constantly and changing their names. It's not selling out. It's just that's the way that they are. Like, if you watch boxing matches these days, most boxers have adverts painted on their back. There's a guy in America who's selling his last name now. So companies can bid. And the highest bidder will be the company name that will become his official last name.
Starting point is 00:09:35 He did it last year for one company. And now he's called, I don't know, James McDonald's or something. And now he's doing it again because it was only for one year. And I think he gets some $50,000 out of it. Wow. I think the only benefit for these companies is in the newspaper coverage that a man is changing his name. Because no one sees, you know, Kevin Budweiser and things, So I must go and have a beer.
Starting point is 00:09:59 We had a football team in Belgium, which was sponsored by Quick. Quick is the Belgian McDonald's, like Burger King. And they had one player called McDonald's. And so it was running on the field with this quick logo on his back and then McDonald's when I was looking into the Filipino basketball stuff, because it's a huge sport there. They absolutely love it. But I suddenly remembered that Dennis Rodman had been out there a few years back. Dennis Rodman was in the Chicago Bulls.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He famously was married to Carmen Electra, and he's been most notable in the news recently because of his relationship with Kim Jong-un. But when he went out to the Philippines to play in sort of one of those Americans versus the Philippines basketball matches, he met up with his estranged dad, who he hadn't seen for 40 years, who's been living in the Philippines for all these years.
Starting point is 00:10:50 He's had 29 children to 16 different wives, and his name, this is his birth name, Philander. Spell exactly the same. Just exactly the same. It's Philander Rodman. He lives out there and he runs his own burger shop, which is called Rodman's Rainbow Obama Burger Restaurant, in which you can get different colored buns. Apparently they're really good burgers. Throw them out. There are really good names all over the Philippines. I think the president and his sisters have nicknames including Pinky, Nunu, and Ballsy. Well, there's the classic Cardinal Sin, who was the main cardinal for years. I think he's passed away.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yes, he died a few years ago. Jaime Sin. There are amazing sports names all over the world, though. They're so fun. Remember, I think in 2005, there was a sudden rush on sales of the Peruvian football team Deportivo Wanker's shirts in Britain. And there's a quote from the club spokesman who just came over. And he was like, it is very strange. Everyone in Britain seems to think we have a funny name.
Starting point is 00:11:49 The wanker are just like Peruvian peoples. It's not a funny word. They decided to, when they were in danger of being relegated, they decided to change their football ground to the highest town in the world which I think is called Cerro de Pasco and I probably haven't pronounced that right but it is 4,400 meters above sea level
Starting point is 00:12:06 and normal people can't really breathe there or do anything and so obviously these guys are used to it and they were accused of cheating because whenever a football team came to play them they all just kind of started collapsing and they're having that's very cool meltdowns. Yeah they still got relegated so it did not work well that's amazing
Starting point is 00:12:19 my favorite basketball fact is somewhat the same is the Spanish basketball team had to return their gold medals of the Paralympics in 2010 because their IQs turned out to be too high. They had a basketball competition for the intellectually disabled or how do you call it. And so the Spanish completely cheated for being, well,
Starting point is 00:12:41 for having too high in IQ. Too high in IQ. That's amazing. Which is not normally an accusation level at many sports people. I'm sorry. That's the boy who was picked second glass speaking consistently for 13 years of school.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Do you know the, the, um, The guy who invented basketball, John Naismith, his middle name is A, and they don't know what his middle name means. And the family have said, we think he just put it there, like President... Ulysses S Gras? Yeah, yeah. Possibly. It's just an S, isn't it? It's just an S, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But one of the discoveries that they've made about this guy is the influences that they reckon that led to the creation of basketball, including a game called... Has anyone heard of this? Duck on a Rock? Does anyone have... I've seen that reference as being one of the inspirations, but what is it? So the idea was that you would have a bunch of kids playing it. You would have a rock, a big stone on a tree stump, and that would be the duck. And you had to knock the duck off the rocks. One person had to stand and protect the duck and make sure it's not knocked off the stump.
Starting point is 00:13:39 The way you knock the big stone off the stump is by throwing rocks at it. Big rocks. So effectively, it's a kids game where you were having stones chucked at you in order to protect another stone. So this is what James Naismithmuth played. as a kid that led to him partially inventing basketball. I think that sounds fun. Really? Yeah. Stones? I'd have a size limit on the stones you could throw.
Starting point is 00:14:03 They used it. So he used a peach basket at first, and they kept using, that was in 18901. They kept using peach baskets until 906, I think. But they realized really early on to drill a hole in the peach basket, and then you'd poke a stick up through the hole so you could poke the ball out. When you figure out that you can make a hole and then you think, yeah, let's just make a small one. Just for a stick, that's pick it up. I think he might have been there. apparently he had a really tense relationship with a school janitor because they were all his peach baskets. And he kept on having his peach baskets with holes in them.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So I think maybe it was like to appease the janitor. He was like, okay, I'll just do a small one. So a hole that's big enough for a stick, but not big enough for a peach. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. In Japan, they like to turn games into an official sports. I read it today that they have official rules for pillow fighting now. Really?
Starting point is 00:14:51 So they have, and there's now an official pillow fight association of Japan. There's a referee, so there must be rules. And I think it was a Japanese guy who once tried to get hide-and-seek as an official Olympic game. That's great. Other ones we had on the show were toe wrestling. Yeah, and then, of course, there's the very famous, I think it's even British, the very famous sports called Ferret in Your Pants. What is it?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Well, it's very simple. You have to close your trousers at your ankles And then you have to put a ferret in your pants And then you have to close the trousers around your waist And well, then you just wait Then you have to wait You just wait for the rest of your life And you have to set a world record
Starting point is 00:15:36 And ferrets normally bite And they don't let go So the best way to do this is to wait until it bites And of course they like the soft bits more They say don't pull them loose because they will bite again. Just... Leave it.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah, just cope with the pain. It's very easy to say that, isn't it? Just leave it. It's fine. What are you complaining about? It'll get worse if you pick it. And the world champion is very proud that after his world record
Starting point is 00:16:04 he had three more kids. Oh, wow. That's pretty impressive. All right, we should wrap up on this one. James, have you got anything to add? The guy who sold his name that Levin was talking about is jasoncerfrap.com,
Starting point is 00:16:18 formerly known as Jason Headsetts.com. I'm not sure what his name was before that. I was looking for the rules of pillow fighting. I found the Pillow Fight League of Toronto. They have a few rules. Their rule one is women fighters only, no exceptions. The first rule. And their last rule is loading a pillow with a foreign object,
Starting point is 00:16:39 such as a brick, is strictly forbidden. And then just finally, I found a newspaper article from 1992 about ferrets. This was in the town of Newtown in Mid Wales. This is a group of vigilantes, and they'd had a lot of crime in the area. And they said, our plan for keeping law and order is simple. Anyone we catch in the act of committing a crime, we'll frog march off to the hills where there's no one to hear the screams. We'll hold him down and slip Fred into his trousers.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Okay, let's move on to fact number three. And Anna, that's your fact. Yeah, my fact is that if you get a zebrafish drunk and put him in a tank, with other zebrafish, the sober ones will follow him around. But in a conga line? Yeah, I think it's doing a bit of a dump. Yeah. So, yeah, they brought, so the way they've made zebrafish drunk before,
Starting point is 00:17:35 they're quite useful fish to study because they're translucent. So you can see what's going on in their bodies without having to slit them open. But the way they do it is they put drop alcohol into their tanks. And then they take the zebra fish out of the alcoholic tank, drop it in with other zebrafish and another one. And yeah, turns out they all follow him around. And why are they following? They're not entirely sure.
Starting point is 00:17:53 So if you get a zebra fish, it's just like humans, really. They get more lively and they move faster, and they seem not as afraid of threats and stuff. And so everyone just follows him about because he seems like a cool guy. Follow that fish. Yeah, follow that fish with no fear of threats. We're following of hours now. No, we're still here in the town.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Okay. That's cool. I read a story about a drunken moose. They found it in a entangled in an apple tree. Yeah, I saw the pictures. Yeah, did you? It's an amazing photo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It happened in Sweden, right? Yeah, it's an amazing photo. How did they get drunk? It got drunk off eating apples. So the apples were fermented. But it happens a lot that animals get drunk from eating fermented fruit. There was once a documentary where they were showing a drunk elephant. And then afterwards turned out that the documentary makers just made him drunk.
Starting point is 00:18:39 He just gave him alcohol. Wow. There's a myth that elephants drink, they get drunk from the Amarula fruit, which comes from the Marula tree. and I've found that it's probably not true, unfortunately, well, unfortunately or fortunately either way, but that they would have to eat so much of the fruit. And also they eat it, I mean, every animal near a Murula tree loves the fruit, so they eat it as soon as it drops. Some elephants even push over the trees to get to the higher fruits.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So it would be far too quick for it to ferment into enough alcohol. Is it a myth about koalas and eucalyptus? Do they get high? Dolphins get high on a... By chewing puffin feet. Really? Yeah. A puffin fish has a poison that comes out.
Starting point is 00:19:24 So when it's bitten, it blows up and it ejects a poison. And dolphins are big enough, so they just get high. And when they find a puffin fish, they hand it to each other, like students with a joint. Yeah. It's just... Yeah, they hand it to each other and then they hang upside down in the water, and they're just tripping. Wow. Tripping dolphins.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Is there footage of that one? Yes. It was filmed by the BBC, and it was seen for the first time because they used cameras that looked like sea animals. So they built a camera that looked like a sea turtle, and the dolphins were not disturbed. And this was not seen before because they don't do it when they're humans around. Too paranoid. Yeah, I guess so. On drunk animals, and drunk elephants specifically, elephants do get drunk quite often in India.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Apparently, an elephant expert in Assam claims, because of an Indian rights. rice wine and I don't know why they keep leaving it out but elephants love Indian rice wine and so they've stampeded villages and got their rice wine and stuff and there was an occasion a few years ago I think maybe in 2004 where they got really drunk on rice beer and they ended up knocking over an electricity pole and four of them got electrocuted so it's drinking is dangerous not just for humans but it's not dangerous for another animal called the pentails tree shrew which lives in Malaysia, and it's frequently drunk, as in much drunker than humans get. Several times over the legal limit to drive, for example, even if it wasn't, you know, a tree shrew.
Starting point is 00:21:02 But the equivalent of about nine small glasses of wine is what scientists think based on tree-true biology and also the effect of the nectar. But they don't get drunk in the same way that humans do. They don't show the same effects behaviourally. So some scientists think that we might be able to harness the power of the tree tree to drink. So why we would want to harness something that allows us to drink and not get drunk is beyond me. I don't think that's something that humanity is crying out. Good call. But yeah, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I think they pollinate the plant by doing this. And so they'll keep going back to the bar and getting another sip. And slow loruses do it as well. That's cool. I love slow loruses. Yeah, the slow lorris, I think, is the only mammal that is both venomous and poison. And it's the only primate that's venomous at all. They produce poison in their elbows, and then they lick it, and they have it in their teeth,
Starting point is 00:21:56 and then they'll bite you with it, and they'll inject the poison into you. Wow. So it's not quite venomous, because usually you're producing the venom in the same place where you're giving it to your victim. Yeah. Yeah, they're so cute. Got such a cute reputation. Yeah. Don't it bite you.
Starting point is 00:22:11 We had on our show, we had a venomous centipede that, you. eats bats. Oh! Yeah, it's 30 centimetres long, and it hangs from the top of a cave. And when a bat flies by, it just catches them while they're flying, and then eats it complete in two hours, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:30 That's amazing. We had it on the show, and I threw in a piece of chicken, and it just ran for it and just grabbed it. I hate centipedes so much. I think they're my least favorite animal. Yeah, I don't like them at all. What about millipedes?
Starting point is 00:22:43 I don't like them. I've been reading about legs, and centipedes move very fast because they're hunters and millipedes move nice and slowly and gently because they're scavengers, they're not interested in, you know, chasing down prey. So I think it's that centipede movement that I don't like. Fair enough. The one that Levin was talking about is called Scolopendra Gigantia.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And it's been found in London, the bat-eating one. Great. I bet it's been found in southwest London, hasn't it? Unfortunately, not. It was found by Stuart Hine, a guy who we've met from the Natural History Museum. him. It was reported to him and it was climbing up someone's living room wall. Wow. A bite of this a bite of the centipede is described as 30 bee stings in one place for a human. So it's not lethal for a human but it's extremely painful.
Starting point is 00:23:33 James, if you tell me where the living room wall was, I will never go to that postcode in London. We could invent a sport centipede and a pants. All right, shall we move? So, James, you've got anything do you want to add? The misconception about koalas getting high on eucalyptus. Savethecawala.com and they're very happy about that at all. They say the myth possibly arose as a way of explaining why koala's sleep for up to 22 hours a day. They need more sleep than most animals because eucalyptus leaves contain toxins,
Starting point is 00:24:06 which kind of sounds like they are getting a bit high, but they're very adamant than not. That's so sweet that they're trying to defend them from accusations of drug addiction. Like, our little koalas are not just taking drugs and getting high, okay? They're good boys. Okay, let's move on to our final fact of the show. And Andy, it's you. Okay. The youngest Willie mammoths are older than the oldest Egyptian pharaohs.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Mammoths were walking the earth while there were pharaohs in Egypt. After about a thousand years of pharaohs as well. But, yes, the last mammoths died out in about 1,500 BC. so they were around a lot longer than we think Oh so that was actually We're in the pyramid's in a bit built, hadn't they? Yeah. Sounds like a great B movie,
Starting point is 00:24:54 Pharaohs and mammots. Yes. We're coming to theatres near you. Yeah. But presumably there weren't any Wully Mammoths in Egypt. No. There's no Pharaoh riding a woolly mammoth.
Starting point is 00:25:04 The last ones were in the Arctic. In the Arctic. They were on a place called Rangel Island, which is now part of Russia. Few people believe they're still around, actually. Yes. Yeah, they were allegedly seen in northern Russia, I think three years ago, there was a YouTube clip, but then it turned out to be
Starting point is 00:25:21 false, of course. But you have this niche movement of cryptobiologists who think that there's many large animals that we haven't found yet, such as Bigfoot, of course. Yeah. But they also believe in the mammoth. Well, I mean, it's really interesting because we do, when you say, yeah, there might be Willie Mammoth out there. Most of us just go, that's impossible. But they have found countless numbers of extinct animals that turned out that haven't been extinct. And We had a, in a future podcast coming out, we spoke to an explorer called John Blashard Snell, who went out to look for a mythical mammoth elephant and managed to find it. And it was thought to have been extinct.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And it turns out it wasn't. And I can't remember. Does anyone remember where he looked for that? I thought it was a... Yeah, Nepal. That was it. It's a different kind of Asian elephant. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:07 To the one everyone thought. Yeah. Yeah, you have this cartoon by XKCD, the Internet of the Ahtoonist, and he has this time. timeline and he says that now that everyone is carrying a photo camera or a video camera everywhere, the odds of finding Bigfoot are getting pretty slim because we had all these messy photos from a from a big distance, but everybody has a camera everywhere now. So if it exists, we should see the coming 10 years or it just is important. Yeah, yeah. Oh, speaking of fakes, in 2003, a museum in Leon C abandoned its plans to display 150,000-year-old, four-foot-long
Starting point is 00:26:45 woolly mammoth tusk after a second opinion from a geologist identified it as a length of Victorian drainage pipe. So it did not put that. They were using tusks for pipes. That's fantastic. Amazing. I think at this point that the DNA that they've found in frozen mammoths is good enough to clone them.
Starting point is 00:27:05 They found woolly mammoth blood and muscle tissue inside the bodies, which is a big step towards it. But there's just so many difficulties of cloning beyond the Jurassic Park. problem, finding a host, finding an organism similar enough. But they did clone the ibex, the Pyrenean ibex. But that was an animal which had died out in the 90s, and they managed to clone one. It survived to seven minutes, the one that was born. Yeah, and then it had lung problems and died as a result of them. But they managed it.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And what animal carried it? I don't know. Okay. Maybe, I suppose, a similar ibex? We had a guy on Museum of Curiosity, the radio show that we do. He's a primatologist called Volker Summer, and he was saying one of the dangerous things that you're not allowed to say out loud is that actually humans and great apes could actually still copulate and have a child.
Starting point is 00:27:58 There is a story that in Belgian Congo, there was a mix of a bonobo and a human. Really? Yes. But it's completely unchecked. One of the most famous biologists. in Belgium is very fond of this myth and really wants to find it because I think technically that would mean that we are we are the same species no that's only that's only if your if the children can have children themselves right yeah yeah yeah I am three and a half percent Neanderthal by the way what you've actually you know that for certain yeah yeah yeah I had my DNA tested I am
Starting point is 00:28:35 three and a half percent near the time wow is that high above average I think the average is two and a half, yeah. So I'm a bit more stupid than average. Cool. No, I'm stronger. Sorry. You're better at opening jars. The place where you test it, when they send the results, they also have a suggestion of buying the t-cert. Three and a half percent Neanderthal. So for every percentage, they have a T-shirt. Do they have maybe one or two, ten percent Neanderth? How high does it go?
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't think it goes up to ten. I think maybe five or something is the highest, and the lowest is maybe one and a half or something. The five is quite a lot. I'm surprised by that. Yeah, but I'm not sure. Hey, did you know that with woolly mammoth tusks That if you cut them Open like if you slice in between You can tell how old the woolly mammoth By the rings
Starting point is 00:29:17 Like a tree? Yeah, you can count the age of a willy mammoth By its rings The same thing is true For the earwax of whales What? Wow Yes, so a whale
Starting point is 00:29:28 A whale is a mammal And of course because of the high pressure The water would get inside the ears And evolutionary They developed a plug of earwax inside their ears to keep the water out. And it grows every year. So when they find a dead whale,
Starting point is 00:29:44 they just cut open the earwax block and they can count the ear rings in there. Wow. What a lovely job. Brilliant. And disgusting. And they can even find chemicals in the rings so they know in what year it was exposed
Starting point is 00:30:00 to certain chemicals on that. Should we, James, you want to add anything? The ibex was surrogated in a domestic goat. and that works okay. One quick more yearing fact? Yes, you might have heard this? The oldest tree in the world,
Starting point is 00:30:17 I think there's this wood in California where they have really old trees up to 4,000, 5,000 years old. And one guy was testing them and he had a special drill, you had to drill into the tree and then take it out and you could count the yearings.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And it was a very expensive drill, was a new one. So he put it in the tree and then he couldn't get it out again. And then one of the guys there said, oh, let's just cut down the tree. there's lots of them here and cut them down. Then he took this sample and he started counting
Starting point is 00:30:42 and found out that this was the oldest tree ever seen in the world that he had just cut down. And the other oldest living tree is in another state. So they were very angry because now the other state had the oldest tree in the world. And he had to quit his job. And he moved to studying lakes. And I'm always wondering...
Starting point is 00:31:02 You can't cut down a lake at least. Well, I'm always wondering if he ever studied the Aral Lake, which is slowly drying up. Of course. It might be his fault, too. Okay, that's it. That's all of our facts. Thanks so much for listening, everyone.
Starting point is 00:31:18 If you want to get in touch with any of us about any of the things we've said in this episode, we can all be got on Twitter. I'm on at Schreiberland, Andy. Andrew Hunter, M. Anna? Still not there. Got an email address, though. Okay, what's your email address?
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm not going to give it out. Thanks, cheers. You can get Anna, though, on at Quicopedia. She's often on that. James, what are you on? at Eggshake's. And our special guest, Levin. At Levin's Heading.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Great. Fantastic. We're going to have lots of these videos and links and all that sort of stuff we've been talking about in this episode up on QI.com slash podcast. So if you want to check out anything there. And we'll be back again next week. Thanks everyone for listening to this episode and no such thing as a fish. Goodbye.

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