No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Lonely Starbucks Customer

Episode Date: February 14, 2015

Episode 47: Dan, James, Andy and Anna discuss the world's most destructive golf shot, why Starbucks has round tables, and the truth about Nemo.

Welcome to another episode. A no such thing as a fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Cormorne Garden. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Andy Murray, and James Harkin. And once again, we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days. And in no particular order, here we go. Starting with fact number one, and that is James. Okay.

This week is that, according to a 2011, You've got survey, 27% of Britons neither love nor hate Marmite. I love that. That makes a lot of sense. It is. It's a great fact. I'm in that 27% I think. I think I am, too.

I love it. I love it, yeah. But here's a weird one. I love Vegemite, but I hate Marmite when you take the comparison higher. So you would obviously love Vegemite, because you're Australian, but I'd actually prefer Vegemite to Marmite, and I think I'm probably the only British person who would admit to that. It's just better, guys.

Well, I read an extraordinary story that IBM did a global survey of the most talked-about brands online, and they went through the internet scouring it for the most brands that we're spoken about. And the top brand, higher than Coke, higher than Nike, was Vegemite. Really? Is it because it's cold? You don't need to speak about Coke because it's always going to be there. Yeah, it could be that. And the weird thing is that they tracked it down that 98% of Vegemite eaters are all Australian.

How many, what percent, sorry? 98%. Well, that sounds right. I don't think you can buy it anywhere else. You can get it overseas now. You can get it in the supermarkets here. But so what's even more interesting is that it wasn't like they were tracking it to Australia. They were tracking it globally.

So they know where all the Australians are around the world. Wow. Through vegamite consumption. Yeah, that's great. I mean, that's not obviously all the Australians, but it's like it's just it gives you a great map of how spread out Ozies are around the world. You could probably do the same with British and baked beans. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. Although, virginite is now really popular in certain Asian countries. Like in Hong Kong, it is all sold out in Hong Kong from all supermarkets suddenly. And that was when it was connected to umami flavor. So there was like a little of press around it at some point which said that is the omami flavor. And because that's, you know, hailed as a brilliant flavor in particularly in Japan and Hong Kong. Suddenly it's incredibly popular.

Wow. Right. Hey, guys, are we talking about Veggamite on this podcast? Or are we talking about James' fact about Marmite? My facts about Marmite. And don't bring your Australian wings over here. I didn't know it's got celery in it. Is it?

Yeah. My weight is made with celery. Wow, that must mean it's so good for you. Yes. Excellent. It also has like remnants of beer in it, doesn't it? That's what it's made of. It's like extract from the beer making.

Is it still... Well, probably not anymore, but that's where it originally came from. If you've got used left over, you may as well use it for... I wonder why I was not drunk after breakfast. That's because you have a serious problem, and I don't know. It's because you're always drinking a... breakfast. I don't think it's the Marmite. It's a pint of wine

I'm having, but I blame the Marmite. I think I must have had a bad slice of Marmite. There was, speaking of drinking, they released on Valentine's Day in 2008, they released champagne-flavoured Marmite. I don't know about that, and it had 3% champagne in it. Now, I would have thought that the Marmite would

overpower the 3% of champagne. Marmites are famously mild flavour. Um, do you know what it means? It means a marmot is an old French cooking pot. So, you know, on the front of a marmite jar, there is the little picture of a red and yellow. Yeah, the casserole dish. That is a marmot. Yeah, it's because it was originally made to add as like a little bit of extra to casseroles.

That was the point of marmite in the first place. Oh, really? Yeah. Like, flavour. Yeah, it's like a stock cube or something like that. Because it was invented by the same guy who invented oxo cubes, who was called. called Justice von Liebig. And he was the first person who realized that you could take, like, the yeast extracts

and turn it into something you could eat. But he's also known as the father of the fertilizer industry, because he discovered that nitrogen is essential for plants. And he also developed a breast milk substitute for babies. Wow. So he's a proper guy. Yeah, yeah. So, hang on.

Architiflu-British Marmite was invented by, was he German? Justice von Liebig sounds German. Yeah, I think he. was actually. I think his main manufacturing place was in Frey Bentos, which is in Uruguay as well. Why do you call it Marmite? He should call it Justice, so he could say, justice will be served

at breakfast. When he had you on his marketing team. So was his breast milk substitute? Marmine. He just claimed to him invented a delicious aperit teeth. It's a marmite shot. And a fantastic new hemorrhoid cream.

I read, there are a lot of articles I'd like about Marmite, because it's something that people like talking about. And I read this phrase, Marmite won two world wars. Okay, that's not strictly true. It's the fastest climb down from the assertion of a fact I've ever read. And that was on a BBC article about it. But what they mean was it was in soldiers' rations in the First World War. Yeah.

Because it's good for vitamins. You got spam, condensed milk and Marmite, basically, didn't you? That's a meal. They had this kind of corn beef stuff that no one liked. And so few people wanted to eat it that they ended up just using it to prop up things in the trenches. And there were crates and crates of this stuff that no one would eat. I think they would over-indulged in the trenches if they were just using their food as a building material. No, genuinely they did because they liked some of it.

How bad was it? You think they were over-indulged in the trenches. I'm just saying. Just replay that. However much. You think that the rancid meat they were served, which they could only walk on. Wow. They were a little bit spoiled.

So the thing about the actual slogan itself was that it was just a genius slogan in that it just created a whole... Oh, it was just fantastic. And I was looking into a few slogans, and I read the most popular slogan. We mentioned it slightly by saying... if British people were around the world. Heinz makes beans or whatever it is. Beans means Heinz.

Yeah. Supposedly the most successful of all the slogans. Do they know on what metric that's the most successful in terms of the most people who remember it? Oh, yeah, I don't know, actually. No, it was just a poll to say which was your favorite. It is very good. Beans, Beans, Heins, Heins.

This led me to a kind of little snoop into the world of slogans, which I just, I found, I ended up looking at, basically the last Brazil World Cup, they all came in with country slogans. Did you see the slogans? I don't remember. Each country had like a brand new slogan that they brought with their country to the World Cup. And we'll see if we can work out what they were. Okay, Argentina. Give us the Falcons back, you bastards.

Is that it? Catchy. No, it's a rather boring one for them. It's not just a team. We are a country. France. This is my favorite one, actually, the French one. Total France. No, so it's impossible is not a French word, which I love because it literally is. That's amazing. I think that that French line, Impossible is not a French word, was originally a Napoleon quotation.

Ah, okay. Just in case we get letters about that. Yeah. He was also wrong. Yes. I really like this story is from an article, again, sort of interesting facts about Marmite. I'm quoting directly, in 2009, a Marmite-obsessed thief targeted a petrol station and stole 18 jars over a month.

Ultimately, the owners stopped stocking it to prevent him striking again. I love that. You go into Tesco's and there's nothing there. It's like, well, we've had no robberies for the last three years. But that's what they said, wasn't it? I read that article and they were like, well, what's the point of us putting it on our shelves? If this guy's just going to nick them, there's no point. No, but it's such a capitulation.

Yeah. To theft. It does feel like that guy's won. Should we move on? Yeah, let's move on. One more thing I read. Former Chelsea footballer Nicholas Anelke is said to be scared by Marmite. Why?

I don't know, but he always goes to that petrol station these days. Okay, time for fact number two. My fact this week is that the Knights of the Round Table included Lancelot, Gawain, Galaad, and Gareth. Gareth, the knight. What was his job? He was just like a classic knight. The weird thing, though, I was looking...

He's not one of the famous ones, isn't he? He's not, but I was looking into him. He's actually Arthur's nephew. Which just seems like... Nephotism in the workplace, here we go. I can't believe there's a new seat at the table. I think he was going to be one of the great knights who's finally made his way. Because you know there were lesser tables?

No. Really? Yeah. Were they other shapes as well? I'm not sure. Was there an oval table and then... It was kind of like a main hall where they had... I mean, it obviously never happened, but like...

There's a novel that's come out talking about the lesser knights, and I didn't realize that the novel actually has a basis in what is closer to the actual mythology. There were lots of other tables where there were, like, older knights who were retired and there were... So it's like at a wedding where you've got the head table, and then you've got the really crap one in the corner with tedious people. Was there a trapezeum table? whether the knights of the trapezium table or the rhombus just some of my favourite shapes I thought I mentioned

so they have round tables at Starbucks apparently and the reason for that is that people look less alone when seated alone at a round table yeah yeah that makes sense because there's no obvious place for other people to go

whereas it's a square table I suppose you want other people on the extra edges yeah so Garif yeah so he was the nephew we don't know anything else about him No, no, there's quite a lot. I mean, he's a big part of the story. Actually, it's a bit unfair to say that he's the nephew

and make that sound as a bad thing because actually quite a number of the other nights were nephews of Arthur as well. Just because everyone got in on special favours doesn't mean it's any better that Gareth is. The only thing I know about him is that his nickname was Beaumann, which is Bo Maut, as the French words, Beautiful Hands, which people teased him saying,

hey, pretty hands. What teased Gareth? Yeah. Oh, no. But that does imply that he, He's not getting his hands dirty by killing dragons and stuff. Yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah.

I think he was a kitchen assistant or something like that. He was, yeah. Is that right? Yeah. For a while, when he was sort of undercover. That sort of period where a really rich, famous person goes into the slums and sees what it's like to be a normal person. When he was undercover with his massive shield and massive sword in Shane Man.

Yes, exactly. Peter the Great went undercover all the time. Did he? He loved doing it, yeah. And he was about seven feet tall and clearly the Tsar of Russia. So it was very powerful. hard for him to do. And he had a big group of people with him, didn't he, like, 30 people walking along with him,

and he's going, nope, no, I'm not him. Right. Yeah. But he got a job in a shipbuilding yard, and he would only answer to the name Peter the shipbuilder. And people would bring him matters of state in the evenings after he finished building ships for the day. Wow. And then he would sign a few documents and things, and then he'd... But then he'd...

Well, he's kind of got it wrong if he calls himself, Peter the... Whatever he does. Yeah. Old habits die hard, basically. Yeah, he couldn't help it. But I think people, like, pretend. to not recognise him, didn't they? To make him feel like he was being successful. I guess it was easier to go on the cover in the olden days,

you know, the pre-photography days. There was a rumor written down at the time, wasn't there? The way Mariannezzanette was captured was because someone recognized her from the coins. Really? And that's then reported her to the authorities, and that's why her... That's the really funny idea,

someone looking at the coin and then looking up, and looking back at the coin, going, wait, excuse me, madam, Could you stand sideways for a minute? Back to Knights, what would you guys say at night tournaments in the Middle Ages? What was the main sport? Jousting.

No, it wasn't. Jousting was always a side sport. The main sport was always the melee, which was the big group fight, where all the knights galloped in towards each other had a group fight. Oh, like a melee. And that's, yeah, where we get melee from.

Jousting was always just a side avenue. And a lot of... rulers and people campaigned to get jousting banned because they thought it distracted from the main Malay and they thought it wasn't a necessary part and Count Philip of Flanders actually used to turn up with a whole retinue and declined to join the Malay and so make sure everyone else got in the Malay

and then when he was jousting he'd be able to win the joust because everyone was tired from the Malay and so people wanted to ban the jousting I think it's true that the only reason more people didn't get killed in the Malay was because the main aim was to capture other people people. And then you would sell them their armour back to them because it's very embarrassing and they basically ransom your armour from you. Yeah. Would they go in with a lance?

Lancelot would. Okay, a lance-a-lott. There's a guy called George Lancelot. He's in the news quite recently. He's had 176 convictions for repeated swirry outbursts in the UK. Swirry outbursts. Yes. He's been arrested for abuse a few times and he claims to suffer from personality disorder, which makes him swear and rant whenever he is out in public and he's been drinking. And recently, he was sent to prison for a short amount of time.

As he was led from the dock in Exeter Crown Court, he shouted, I get less for burglary. Fuck off. In his defence, he had been drinking. Have you guys heard of the game, King Arthur? No. Or played, in fact. No. This was a game that sailors played in the 16th.

than the 17th centuries. So you'd let one crew member to play King Arthur, and he'd be dressed up in ridiculous robes, and apparently wear a wig made of rope. And then everyone else of the crew would have to be formally introduced to this King Arthur, and they'd have to tip a bucket of freezing cold water over his head. So it's like the ice bucket challenge.

It's a bit like that. But if you, when you tipped it over his head, and obviously, I guess his reaction was quite amusing, if you cracked a smile or a laugh, you had to swap places with him and you had to become the King Arthur character. Wow. That's great.

When you shouted, you said, hail King Arthur, tipped a buck over his head, had to keep a straight face. I nominate Long John Silver. So, just back to the Knights very quickly, because I'm not of your country. I didn't really get an upbringing totally with it. Obviously, you guys might have, I'm guessing, in school. Was it a big part? Been knighted. No, no, just King Arthur, the whole mythology.

Not really. It doesn't get to talk a lot. Oh, okay. Okay. We've all seen the sword in the Stone Disney film. Yes. I haven't. Oh, well, it's the best Disney film.

Oh, yeah, there we go. There's a really hot squirrel in it. That is true. It's true, right? She's pretty fit, yeah. She is sexy. Like the fox in Robin Hood, for example. That was Robin Hood.

What? Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a very handsome fox. He's a handsome fox. Yeah, but so there's no basis of truth in it whatsoever, right? There are certainly claims. There's a claim that a huge round table that hangs in Winchester Hall is the real round table.

Basically, what happens is there's this mythology, which most people think isn't true, but there might be some kind of historical basis to it, probably not. And so when you have anything like that, it means that everyone can claim part of it. Okay. I think the latest theory is that, so it's a bit like Robin Hood, I think, is that people often come up with theories of where the Arthurian legend might have come from. And the latest is that he was Kazakhstani. Oh, really?

The most modern interpretation, Kazakhstan king. But he was a mythical Kazakhstan king. as opposed to a mythical and English king. Is that right? I think so, yeah. Okay, cool. There's another theory that he's Croatian, because his wife was called Igrain, and there is a town called Igrain in Croatia,

and they've decided, well, it sounds the same, so she must have been from here. Fair enough. So, just with the Round Table and Gareth, specifically, it turns out that Gareth's death is what led to the sort of breaking up of the round table, of the night being there all the time. So they really did care about the little kitchen boy.

They loved Gareth, yeah. He was a big, he wasn't just the nepotistic nephew coming in. He was very much loved. So, Gareth, that was actually the first use of the name Gareth in... Yeah, I read one theory that it was a mistake by Mallory. Oh, okay. He was supposed to be called Gahariat, but he misheard Gahariat and said Gareth instead. I mean, it's not that much less than having the female name Harriet as the main part of your male name, to be fair.

So do you think we could say that Gareth, in the same way that, like Joe Anna is the female version of Joseph or whatever, Josephine probably. Do you think we could say that Gareth is the male version of Harriet? I can think of a better male equivalent of Harriet than Gareth. It's taken me a while, but I've got it. I don't know what you're talking about. It must be a really obscure name. Let's move on to fact number three, and that is Andrew Hunter-Marry.

My fact is that the Ministry of Defence owns 15 golf courses. This is the British Ministry of Defence. Right. Why? Do we know why? Why not? It's hard work. Killing the enemies of the Crown. Yeah.

You can't relax and have a quick nine. No, I don't... I think it's because, you know, when you watch a James Bond movie, and I know the Ministry of Defence is different to MI6, but they must have their spies as well, right? Ministry of Defence. Whenever you see a James Bond movie, Bond is brilliant at everything.

You don't become brilliant at everything without training like crazy. good at golf. Yeah. Well, golf would be one of the things. There will be a bond who will be when he plays golf. He plays against Goldfinger. Well, there you go. You assumed down that the Ministry of Defense also owns loads of tennis courts and bowling alleys. Yeah, well, I think I read that they do have

like polo, poker tables, poker tables, ski resorts. They've got a dartboard. Scrubble bars. They've got it all. They've got one spy waiting for the evil villain who plays shove-hapening. Twister I want to see the inventory

It's everything that they're Redfoot green Did you say redfoot green? Mr. Bond Cart redfooted Another thing the Ministry of Defense has is this is in their list of achievements for 2014 Completed

a rollout of Internet Explorer 8 as its default browser. Not bad, guys. It's still on Internet Explorer. And not only that, Internet Explorer 8 came out in 2009. Have you heard of Kabul Golf Club? No. This is the only golf club in the whole of Afghanistan.

Right. And the course rules specifically call the Greens, Browns, because it's very, very dry and there's no grass. Oh, really? It's all, basically, it's all sand, but they make the greens more compact, don't they? Yeah. I think.

And it used to be an area for training in the removal of mines. And you have to carry artificial turf with you sometimes. Put that on the ground where your ball is and play off that to the next bit. And then carry your artificial turf with you. Put it under the ball. That happens in actual, not like professional golf, but if you're a member of a golf course, some golf course is in the UK, you'll carry some artificial turf in the winter. Because they don't want you hacking up the mud.

So you can bring your own bit of artificial stuff, put it down, put the ball on and play it off that. That's fantastic. Yeah. I think that's really cool. So what the first crazy golf course was? No. It was, it's still around. It's at St. Andrews, and it's a putting green.

And it's got loads of real big hills on it, so the ball goes in all sorts of directions. And it was invented because ladies weren't allowed to play on the golf course, so they gave them this little, like, fake golf course to play. And then it became so popular, because actually it's... a lot more fun than proper golf if you're not good at golf and everyone started playing it and then they kick the women off that one as well no no you can you can play this tiny golf

we've just invented with your fingers a little cocktail stick for a golf club that's so funny it's a true Mary Queen of Scots first female golfer in records yeah that is true wow records though are tricky things but yeah I think it is and I think James

the fourth of Scotland was the first recorded golf player again he definitely wasn't the first ever golf player, but he played him 1502. He lifted the band that had previously been in place on playing golf because it was encouraged, to encourage archery practice, golf was not allowed. Because, you know, if you can't play golf, James. Yeah, his grandfather banned it, didn't he? Yeah.

So. Apparently, part of the reason that he lifted the band was he realized that Cannon would probably replace archers in time, so it wasn't as important for everyone to be doing archery practice. Long-sighted. Yeah. Quite a lot of famous people in history have, have been known for playing golf, haven't they?

Like, I think Rudyard Kipling was a big golf fan. Oh, yeah? And it's claimed that Rudyard Kipling... I mean, it's true that Rodgit Kipling invented snow golf. But it's often claimed, like, this is a sport that now we're all playing. And did you know? Roger Kipling invented it. I'm almost constant.

It's getting a bit out of hand, actually. The amount of snow golf I played. No, don't do any archery anymore. Okay, so there was a golfer in Benin called Matthew Boyer. Okay, this might be a made-up story, but it's all of. the internet. One day he played a shot described as a glorious slice. The ball hit a bird, which in turn dropped onto the windshield of a trainer jet. That trainer jet pilot then swerved out of the way and took out four new Mirage jets and in one go totally demolished the entire Air Force of Benin.

Wow. Through one golf shot, that's what happened. That is impressive. And they worked out it would take him 145,000 years to pay off his debt. Wow. Did he yell out in the court, I would have got less for Bergeri? Fuck off. It could be a cool catcherates.

You're leaving court every time. Okay, time for our final fact, and that is Chazzynski. My effect is that the rise in the use of female contraceptive pills is causing fish to become too effeminate. This is a genuine problem. This is about how a lot of women

use a female contraceptive pill, understandably. It's a great thing. but that does mean that we end up flushing out of our system a lot of female hormones that go into the drains and get into rivers and the fish take them in and it causes this thing called intersex which means that like a male fish will stop producing sperm

it will start producing eggs and then it damages fish populations because it's thought they can't really breed as well when they start doing that. So yeah, a bit of an issue. Stuff being flushed down the drain. How can there be that much that's going into the ocean? The fish hanging out by?

the source of the sewers? It's a good point. So, yeah, it does take the tiniest amount to have an effect on them. So they added, it's EE2, which is ethanol estradiol, which is the main active ingredient of contraceptive pills, which triggers the condition in fish. And so they added five parts of that per trillion to water to test it out, and it still had an effect on the fish.

Wow. That's extraordinary. So I was just other things that go through the drain systems and out in the ocean, I was talking to this lady from the Natural History Museum, Sandy Knapp, and she's actually, it's not relevant. She's a curator of potatoes and tomatoes, but what I'm talking about is facial products. She was telling me, she gave me this little vial of these little blue beads, and she was saying these beads are from when you wash your face with face wash. It's those microbeads that they say they're inside the thing. And she was saying, what do you think these are made of?

And I assumed it's a natural product. And she said, no, it's a little bits of plastic. and the plastic is now, apparently when it goes through the drains, that gets forced out into the ocean, it makes it through the system. Fish are eating it, becoming toxic, it's actually poisoning the fish, and then when you eat the fish, it's actually harming us now. Apparently it knocks up radiation levels or something. Yeah, I've probably gone all pseudo-y there at the end.

And that's in moisturiser. It's in like a face wash. You know, when you have those microbeads. Yeah, if you buy face wash and it's kind of a bit rough. You know, when you buy face wash, you know, when you wash your face? done that. Humans are paying for their vanity now, aren't they? You said that like you weren't a human. You people will suffer.

Puny-mortals. So, industrial pollutants are shrinking the genitals of polar bears in Greenland. That's their excuse. They should just inflamed down the cold, shouldn't they? But apparently weakening their penis bones. Wow. Industrial pollutants? Yeah.

And also, there's a chemical used to pay. paint boat on the western coast of Australia called TBT. And that causes female sea snails to grow male sex organs on their heads. Wow. That is pretty comical. That's an odd mutation, yeah. Yeah. That is a funny one.

The good news is that the percentage of snails with the penis on the foreheads is going down and the size of the penis is shrinking, thanks to a decreasing proportion of chemical in the water. That is good news. I think we all know what the most. common insult is in the snail population there's a really straightforward one so another fish that would change sex um is nemo from the film finding nemo okay did you know about this clownfish um in i mean if if if the if the story went as a proper clownfish life cycle does um nemo would

hatch as a hermaphrodite because all clownfish are born hemaphrodites and um and um When the female mate dies, Nemo's father would have turned into a female. Now, since, and because Nemo is the only other clownfish around in this setting of the film, he would then become a male and mate with his now female father, unless his father dies, in which case he changes into a female and goes off with another male. I haven't seen this movie. Is that not what happens? That's the extended directors cut. I did read that the mother of Nemo dies after four minutes and three seconds.

of finding Nemo, eaten by a barracuda, apparently. But this was in a story... Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. For those who've only made it two minutes in. But this was in an article that says that two-thirds of children's animated films contain an on-screen death of an important character compared with only half of comparison films.

So there are more deaths in children's films and there are in adult films. So basically it's either a dead parent, a single parent, or a mother who turns into a father who turns into a mother who has sex with a child. It's usually one of those plotlines. Although that is a fully functioning fish family that you just described. So on Finding Nemo, there's a book that's just come out, I think, which is called Water, the Past, Present and Future,

which is quite interesting. And that states that one of the reasons that Finding Nemo is set in Sydney is that Sydney is one of the only places in the world. so one of only three English-speaking places in the world where you could flush a fish down a drain and it would make it to the sea without dying. What would happen to the others? The others are going to get ground up

and crushed to death in various sewage treatment plants. Oh, dear. Yeah, in fact, there was panic when finding Nemo was released that kids were going to start doing this to their fish to free them. And so they released a statement saying, actually, a better title for this film would have been grinding Nemo

because actually if you do this to a fish, it will end up crushed. Wait, who released that statement? It was the... It was a national pun laboratory. Was it an animal rights group? No, it was someone involved with the film. Oh, okay.

Is that helpful, though, because children don't normally read a lot of statements. Well, I appreciate a good pun in time. Apparently, there was a rise in parents calling plumbers going, how do I get my fish out? We've flushed it down. Is it going to be saved? Really? Yeah, yeah.

Because children were just doing it. And there was also a lot of children, even though it doesn't exactly like hold up the virtues of owning a clownfish because he does just escape, there was a problem with kids suddenly wanting clownfish and I think there was a certain sea that they were just taken from where it was empty to all this clownfish. Oh really? Okay.

Yeah. The damn selfish. I know. No, that's actually the group of fish like clownfish are from. They're called damn selfish. It's not a cool name. The damn selfish. Wait, D-A-M-selfish.

One word. Oh, damselfish. Is that I say it? Quick question. Why do people flush goldfish down the toilet and not eat them? Are they the two options? I just curious, same reason that people bury their dogs and don't eat them? Yeah, but we eat fish, we don't eat dogs. Okay, good point.

There's fresh fish in the house now. There are so many reasons, James. Right, here's one good reason. Yeah. If your fish has just died, you don't. don't know what it died of, it could have died of a disease or something. So you don't want to eat it in that way. That's one extremely good reason.

That's not the reason I didn't eat my hamster, for example. Also, I don't ask for a certificate of death when I'm in a restaurant. Also, there's a haddock. But you do understand, don't you, that the restaurants have asked for that. At some point, the restaurants have to go through a process where they make sure their fish are healthy to eat. Really? Find dead animals. You've seen those big ads in the newspapers.

We buy dead fish. Cash for dead fish. Cash for goldfish. That just seems you're throwing away food. One story I like about finding Nemo is that when Andrew Stanton, who had the idea, had the idea, and pitched it to the head of Pixar, John Lasseter, he did it in a session that lasted over an hour and he had lots of visual aids and character voices, and it really tied him out. he says. And at the end of it was like, oh, Lasseter, what do you think?

And Lassad just went, you had me at fish. Okay, so some stuff on contraceptives, maybe. Oh, yeah. Sponges were used as contraceptives in the 1800s and 1900s. They would use them with spermicides. Okay, what, and put them into. Yeah.

So they would be used with things like quinine and olive oil, and that would supposedly be a contraceptive, yeah. And some even doubled as household cleaners. And one was advertised as a dual treatment for successful womanhood, which means contraception, and athlete's foot. Oh. Two for one.

I don't know which order you'd want to do that. I do. I say, now my athlete's foot has cleared up. But I have 20 children. Okay, that's it. That's all of our facts. Thanks so much for listening. If you want to get in contact with any of us about the things we've said over the course of this podcast, you can find us all on Twitter.

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