No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Malicious Robot

Episode Date: August 29, 2014

Episode 24 - Dan (@schreiberland), James (@eggshaped), Anna (@nosuchthing), and Alex (@alexbell) discuss the shape of the Sun, fake baseball fans, giant birds' nests and how to play Hooverball. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We run it on QI a few years ago. Yeah. Which was, there's no such thing as a fish. No, no such thing as a fish. No, seriously. It's in the Oxford Dictionary of Underwater Life. He says it right there. First paragraph, No Such Thing is a Fish.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Covent Garden. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting here with three other elves, James Harkin, Alex Bell, and Anna Chazinski. And once again, we've gathered around the microphone with our four favorite facts from the last seven days. And here we go. In no particular order, here they are. Okay, fact number one, Alex. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:43 When he was bored, Calvin Coolidge used to ring a bell to summon his bodyguards and then hide from them under the Oval Office desk. Really? Yep. Just as a joke. But, I mean, presumably after the first time you've done that. Or did they have to be like parents to a four-year-old child? Oh, we're going to be? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Probably. Yeah, I wouldn't have much trust in them if they were continually fooled by it, like, every time. That would be the worst. You'd fire your secret service straight away. You'd be like, seriously, this is the second time. You're done. Yeah. Well, actually, speaking of firing people and hiding, I found a completely,
Starting point is 00:01:17 sort of slightly related fact as well, secondary fact. Herbert Hoover had a really strict privacy policy to the point where whenever he or his wife were on the approach, the White House staff would signal to each other using the bell system in the White House, and then hide in a cupboards or behind bushes or something like that because he hated seeing his staff and really likes his privacy and they risked being fired if they were seen. So any time he came into a room,
Starting point is 00:01:42 they would sort of have to scramble around and try and hide somewhere. They got so used to doing this that when Harry Truman took over the presidency moved into the White House. He was like, where are all my stuff? Herbert Hoover invented Hoover Bowl, didn't he? Which was... What's that? Is it as soon as he gets the ball or the other players hide in cupboards?
Starting point is 00:01:58 He just gets to walk right for the... gall line. He then hides under a desk. Yeah. That's Coolridge Bowl. No, it was actually invented by his doctor to keep him fit, and it's a cross between, according to the government website, tennis, volleyball, and medicine ball, which, do you guys know what that is?
Starting point is 00:02:14 Medicine ball, yeah. It's a big bowl that you use for exercise. Yeah. That big heavy thing. So it's basically like volleyball with an unbelievably heavy ball about the weight of a newborn baby, and you throw it over the net. Calvin Coolidge liked to eat breakfast in bed while having his head rubbed with Vaseline. Was he bald?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Because that is a recipe for greasy hair, if not. You know the guy who invented Vaseline? He was, oh, I've forgotten his name, Cheeseborough or something like that. He thought that Vaseline was like a big sort of cure-all, and he used to eat it every single day, and he used to rub it on his body all the time because he thought it would cure him of all illness. And did it?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Well, he's dead. Okay. So it didn't make him live forever. Yeah, okay, so it wasn't an elixir. I can understand why he does that. I once went on a date and I couldn't find any hair gel. And my hair was really all over the shop. If this is something about Mary's story, can I stop you there?
Starting point is 00:03:08 I put Tiger Balm in my hair. And my God, that was the most intense sensation I've ever had. It was like putting chilies all over my head. It was just like on fire. And my head stunk like hell. I got on the train and everyone was like, what is that smell? Was that a successful date? It was because in the end, I had to admit it.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I was like, by the way, the reason my head smells like this is because I did Tiger Barb over and she said, I really like the smell. It is quite a nice smell. And if you have a cold, it's quite so maybe if she was a bit blocked up, you would have really helped her out. Exactly. My sinuses were incredible. My point is though is that maybe the Vaseline on his head while he's eating kind
Starting point is 00:03:45 gives a slight kind of like putting Tabasco on your food. Maybe that's how he managed to get Mrs. Coolidge. She was like, oh, I really like the smell of Vaseline. Yeah. Have you thought a tiger balm? There is a thing called the Coolidge effect. Do you know that? No.
Starting point is 00:03:57 No. The idea is that. that male animals prefer to have sex with females they've never seen before than females that they have seen before. And it's called the Coolidge effect and it's named after Calvin Coolidge. Why? It's a story about him and his wife who were being shown around the farm and they got to a chicken yard and Mrs. Coolidge noticed that the male chicken was having sex a lot and she said to the guy, you know, does he do that a lot? And he said, oh yeah, he has sex about 12 times a day. And she goes, well, you should tell that to my husband. So then the guy, you know, does he do that? And he
Starting point is 00:04:28 guy went to Calvin Coolidge and he said, this chicken has sex 12 times a day and your wife told me to tell you about it. And he said, oh, is it the same chicken every time that he has sex with? And this guy said, no, it's a different chicken every time. He said, well, tell that to my wife then. Sticking from and named it then? It was named after that anecdote, which I guess probably didn't even happen. Yeah. But just to make this clear, that is a really cruel thing he said. So he did basically say the only reason he wants to keep having sex is because it's not with my wife every time. He's saying, if I was to have sex 12 times a day, it wouldn't be with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:58 To be fair, it's a pretty slaggy move on her part. That was quite a good comeback. No one comes across well in that anecdote at all, apart from the chicken. Do you know, I only found this up the other day. A weird number of presidents have won Grammy Awards for spoken word albums. Really? So I stumbled upon this because Hillary Clinton did a spoken word album, which was some kind of, you know, telling us how we should live better album in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Obama's won two Grammys for Spoken Words. For his autobiographies. Oh, they are well-spoken. Yeah. It's true. Clinton's got one. Both of Clintons have got one. Jimmy Carter.
Starting point is 00:05:33 To be a president, you have to be well spoken, though, don't you? You have to be good at doing speeches, so it's not that surprising. It makes total sense. Yeah. I wonder who didn't get one. Well, George Bush certainly didn't. Did he not? Yet.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Maybe. Is the Grammy night just full of presidents? Just waiting. The best spoken word, we've got Clinton, Obama. I think the presidents are the only ones who were asked to make audio tape. It would be like, and the winner is Calvin Coolidge. Has anyone seen Calvin Coolidge? I want to talk about hide-and-seek because we were talking about
Starting point is 00:06:07 Coolidge playing hide-and-seek. So you know how refrigerators have got this magnetic seal that keeps them closed? That's because of hide-and-seek. In 1958, the decade up to 1958, a load of kids have been killed playing hide-and-seek and hidden inside refrigerators. And so the new law was brought in saying that they had to be caged. capable of being opened with a 15 pound push from inside. And as soon as that law came in, they had to come up with a way of making sure they stayed closed,
Starting point is 00:06:36 but were able to be open from the inside. And that's how the magnetic thing came in. Because previous to that, would it lock and then... Well, they used to have latches on the way. So the kid would be stuck inside. Yeah. Okay. That's interesting because I only found out recently that in Back to the Future,
Starting point is 00:06:52 the time machine was originally supposed to be a fridge. Was it? And the reason it was changed was because of a fridge. fear that kids would start trying to imitate them and locking themselves in fridges. Yeah. Should we wrap up on this one? It feels like, no, go for it. I was just looking at things, well, hobbies of presidents, which quite good, and related to
Starting point is 00:07:09 Hyden Sea. So Woodrow Wilson made his Secret Service staff paint his golf balls black in winter, didn't he, so that he could still see them in the snow. But in more humorous news, one of Einstein's favorite hobbies was sailing, and he loved to sail even though he couldn't swim and refused to wear a life jacket. and at one point in his life he had to be pulled from the water by a teenager who heard him crying out for help and pulled Einstein out of the water and the teenagers just disappeared so no one knows who that teenager was
Starting point is 00:07:35 but Einstein's life saved by a teenager. But bizarrely this year there's a fish called Einstein in Blackpool and it got a bladder infection which meant that it stopped being able to swim and just sank to the bottom. And so the guy in Blackpool has designed a tiny fish life jacket which the fish now uses to swim in. So unlike Einstein, this poor Einstein fish has been forced into a life life jacket and given the chance of swim again. I just think that's a really weird mirroring of the
Starting point is 00:08:00 real Einstein's life. Okay, time for fact number two. And that's my facts. My fact this week is that until 2011, the sun was only in theory a sphere, but it's now confirmed to be a sphere. Oh yeah. How have you confirmed that? NASA confirmed it. Oh, did they? Yes. How did they do that? So NASA, basically, and this was a headline that appeared on NASA's official website on February the 6th, 2011, it said, it's official. The sun is a sphere. And the idea was that NASA had two twin stereo probes. They were called stereo. And they went to either side of the sun and took the first 3D photo. Basically, they got to the dark side of the sun, as it were. They got to the side
Starting point is 00:08:40 that we never see. Yeah, it's not dark as such. But just in terms of a badly chosen words, it's, it's the dark side of the same. That would be amazing if they got to the other side and it turned out to be dark. Yeah, that would be amazing, or flat or hologram, something awesome. But anyway, I just find that amazing. I find that we've gone all this time and just assuming that scientists agree that it's a sphere. And it's probably a bit tongue in cheek, but I just like, I just like that that is how far scientists do actually go. Might not be. That's what they say. Yeah, might not be. It is amazingly spherical. Yeah, they don't understand why this is the case. It was discovered only in 2012. It's the most perfect sphere in nature by quite a long way. And I think it's the second most perfect sphere in the
Starting point is 00:09:19 universe that we know of. And what's the first? The first are the silicon balls that have been used as replacement for the kilogram. So one incredible thing is that if you scale the sun to the size of a beach ball, it's bulged, the biggest dip in it would be less than the width of a human hair. But even so, the biggest dip on the sun, so the biggest difference between its smallest diameter and its biggest is 10 kilometres. And if my maths is right, if you blew up this perfect sphere that we've created to the size of the sun, then the biggest dip in it would be about 120 centimetres. I know you always wanted to have a Guinness Book of Record, record, Dan. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:56 One that you can't have is the record for longest time spent staring at the sun because the Guinness Book of Record specifically refuses to accept entries for that one. Why? Because it's too dangerous. Because it's too dangerous. Isaac Newton used to do experiments where he would look at the sun for as long as possible
Starting point is 00:10:15 and he did it one time for so long that he had to shut himself up in a darkened room and wait for his sight to return and it took three days for his sight to return. Three days. These scientists. Not so smart. In 1999 when there was an eclipse, a lot of people were looking at the sun then.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And when people obviously damaged their eyesight and they went to hospital afterwards, the doctors could tell exactly when they looked at the sun by looking at the impression on their retinas. So if it was like a halfway through the eclipse, it would have the half-sickle of the sun. Wow. That's so cool. That's extraordinary. Although I don't know how anyone's eyes got damaged then because I remember it and it was so cloudy. So the original fact that we had here was how we didn't know for sure that the sun was a sphere. But people were pretty certain about it.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So Galileo, for instance, he could see the sunspots going round the back and coming back again. And so he postulated that it must be a sphere. And there are lots of other reasons why we were pretty certain it was a sphere. But not 100%. Yes, exactly. I read a headline which you guys are going to hate. So the people listening to this podcast, they must hear Dan about to say something and then us are all groaning and wonder why we do it.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And it's, you know what? It's the look on his face. As soon as he's about to say something ridiculous, he has this look as if to say, I'm a naughty boy. You guys are all going to shout at me. Anyway, go on. Okay. So the world almost ended in 2012, but we survived by a week.
Starting point is 00:11:46 This is what happened. The sun had a ginormous solar flare in 2012 around July, and it shot out into one particular bit of space. We were a week away from the end of the path of where it went out to. And scientists have said that if we were in the path, if we were a week ahead in time, or if it happened a week later and we were in that path, the size of the solar flare would have knocked us basically back to the dark ages. It was literally we were that close to destruction. Well, and if we'd just been a bit further ahead in our rotation around the sun. Yes, we would have been in its path.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So it's just, we just happened to not be in its path. Wow. I am slightly terrified of the sun because there is this massive risk of coronal mass ejections just wiping out all technology on the planet, which is just horrible at it. There was a massive solar storm in 1859, which is the storm that has had the biggest effect on Earth since records began on this. And the biggest piece of technological infrastructure that existed at that point was the telegraph network. And it basically, all across Europe and US, it basically, it basically, shut down. Everyone unplugged their machines, but there were sparks flying off all the
Starting point is 00:12:50 pylons, and even if you turned off the transmitters, they were still sending and receiving messages. And Orori were seen all over the world. And in places like the Rocky Mountains, it was so bright that the gold miners actually got up and started making breakfast because they thought it was daytime. Wow. Wow, really? Yeah. Lloyds of London, the insurance people, in 2013, they did a study using the data from 1859. to work out how much it would cost if that kind of thing happened today and they estimated that in the US
Starting point is 00:13:21 it could cost up to $3 trillion worth of damage even if it was just that strong so it could go so much worse than that. Very scary. You know you were just saying about these guys who woke up in the middle of the night because they saw the corona. Earlier this week there was an earthquake in California.
Starting point is 00:13:35 It was in the Napa Valley where they make wine and enough people around there have these, you know, these exercise bands that are attached to the internet and it can tell how many steps you've done every day and how your heart rate's doing and such like that. Yeah. And they could work out who had woken up at the same time as this earthquake went off.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And they found out that more than half of the people who woke up during the earthquake stayed up for the rest of the night, even though it went off at 3 a.m. Oh, really? Isn't that cool? Yeah, that's just a way that you can take information that was for another thing and then work out how humans react to something. Yeah. You mentioned California and the sun.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So, relatedly, there's a big. solar plant in California and when birds fly over the top of it often they catch fire because the sun's rays of being so concentrated so then they've called them streamers the guys who work there and these birds fly through and cat ignites spontaneously combust mid-flight wow instead on fire it's really sad yeah it's very sad they must be freak out mid-flight like that's never happened before yeah you're on fire oh I thank you no no you're on fire you're literally here okay time for fact number three and that is is Chazzynski.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, my fact is that there are some bird's nests that contain over 100 rooms and are so heavy that they cause trees to fall down. What? Yeah, so these are really cool. This is my new favorite creature, I think, the sociable weaver bird, which you find in southern Africa and South Africa, Botswana, places like that. And they are really sociable. So they build these gigantic nests where up to 400 birds will live in one nest, and they
Starting point is 00:15:11 have loads and loads of different chambers. And they're incredibly efficient for a bunch of different reasons. But they do weigh an enormous amount. And so... The trees will collapse? Yeah, a tree recently collapsed under their weight. So they can weigh almost 1,000 kilograms, which I think is about as much as 12 adult men.
Starting point is 00:15:28 So if you stick 12 adult men in a tree, it's likely sometimes the branch is going to break. And it did. The desert where most of these birds live is obviously very hot in the daytime and gets very cold at night. And it's insulated so that if you go right into the middle of this nest, where they all roost together, then it's much warmer at night,
Starting point is 00:15:45 like more than 10 degrees warmer than it is in the daytime. And then in the daytime, if you hang out in the outside chambers, it's more than 10 degrees cooler than it is in the daytime because it's so well shaded. Wow. Do they have different rooms for different things? Or do they all have their own rooms and stuff? The pairs have their own rooms. So each room will be a pair and sometimes they're offspring.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And then in the centre will be where they all sleep together. It's like a hotel. It really is. It's incredible. It is like a huge luxury mansion. Is it that other birds live in there as well? Yes. I saw a list of some of the other birds who live there.
Starting point is 00:16:15 They include the familiar chat, the ashy tit, and the rosy-faced lovebird. But yeah, they do. They let other birds live in them, which I think is also great of these guys. When they've got a spare room going, they say to their mates, hey, you couldn't be asked to build a nest? Don't worry. So they're like a hostel. Yeah. It's like Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, exactly. Badgers do that as well, don't they? Do they? Yeah, because badgers have sort of like a very similar to a rabbit hole, because rabbits only let rabbits in. But badgers are like, if they see a rabbit, they'll be like, come on in, mate. Sure. Yeah, yeah, and they let them live with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Are you sure this isn't Watership Down? It might be wind and the willers. They all wear tweed, right? Prairie dogs, we've done on QI as well, quite ostensibly, and they're quite similar to these birds, and I also like them for it, aren't they? Because they have enormous boroughs, prairie towns, I think they're called. So they're small than they used to be because they're now more in danger. But in 1900, a prairie town was found that took up 25,000 square.
Starting point is 00:17:14 miles and housed 400 million prairie dogs. What? How many? 400 million. 400 million. Are you hearing the number? That's like the population of America, isn't it? Yeah. So you've got...
Starting point is 00:17:27 That's amazing. In one house? It's in a book called Prairie Conservation, preserving North America's most. Why do they need to conserve this 400 million in every single house? They're doing good. But they let other animals live in their homes as well. So you get burrowing owl and snakes.
Starting point is 00:17:48 How is there any room? Come on, her, squeeze in. Let's go back to nests. Yeah, I tell us about nests. You were talking about the temperature of the nest, how it fluctuates. Yes. I found something great thing about temperature and nests. The sex of an alligator and some other reptiles like lizards and turtles is determined by how warm the nest is that they're laid in.
Starting point is 00:18:07 So for alligators, if the egg is kept in a nest at 30 degrees, it turns out female. And if it's 34 degrees, it turns out male. Really? Yeah. So in 2009, some researchers found a geophalcon nest in the Arctic, and they did some radiocarbon dating on it, and they found that it had been in use for 2,500 years. So people had been living there since the Roman era,
Starting point is 00:18:33 or birds had been living there, I should say. But it was just outside. Get out of my house. Wow, that's incredible. Dan, you've been away at the Edinburgh Festival. Yes. While you're away, Greg Jenner came in, who was in one of our earlier podcasts. He's a historian from horrible histories.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And we were talking about a human nest. It was like a mattress inside a cave somewhere in Africa. So this mattress was in use for 77,000 years. Wow. 77,000 years. Imagine how long that is. Like 2,000 years was like when Jesus was around. When Jesus was around.
Starting point is 00:19:09 77,000 years they were using this mattress. No. Oh, okay. I mean, we should keep the tradition going. That's true, actually. Yeah, why do we stop? They used moss, and they would put it in this corner of a cave, and then they'd use it for a while, for a while, for a while,
Starting point is 00:19:24 and then they would burn it and put more moss on top, and then they would burn it and put more moss on top. And this moss was particularly good, because it would stop insects from being able to live there, so it's a really good place to sleep. But also, so you're saying it's the exact same bed, effectively. Yeah, because they just kept adding different bits of the mattress on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And they almost never changed the bedding. We did ask about it. It was only about every 2,000 years or something that they bothered even changing the moss. Just on the subject of mattresses, I was reminded there's a trap door at the bottom of the Blue Whale in the Natural History Museum in London. When they opened it up, they discovered a mattress in there. And it was basically a time capsule inside the Blue Whale, because it was when they were building it. It's where all the workmen would sneak in. So they found a bunch of magazines and newspapers and empty wrappers, but also a mattress.
Starting point is 00:20:13 because apparently horny curators that used to be a top location. I can't believe they went to that sort of trouble. Think about it. If you're someone who works at the Natural History Museum, you're already quite a big dork. And so, the idea of sex inside a blue whale, yes, please.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I mean, even I think that that's the best possible location. I don't know why they need the trapdoor because a blue whale's vagina is large enough to walk through. Such a good point. Maybe it's a male blue whale. Yeah. Oh, that's probably it. I was just going to talk really quickly about the weaver birds,
Starting point is 00:20:43 just because they often now build their nests on telegraph poles and pylons. So you'd recognise their nests. And anyway, this often causes power outages. So I was looking at animals that cause power outages. And squirrels are always cutting off electricity. So there are some electricity companies that say that two thirds of their electricity outages just come from squirrels chewing through wire or like linking up circuits by jumping from one bit to another. And they've shut down the NASDAQ twice.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I think an estimated $20 million worth of shares were not traded in that time. Okay, guys, numbers can be big. Let's get over. Okay, time for the final fact of the show, James. Okay, my fact is, the worst baseball team in South Korea
Starting point is 00:21:29 has replaced its supporters with robots. So these guys are called the Hanwar Eagles. They've lost more than 400 games in the last five years. they came bottom of the league in the last two years and their opposition have started calling them the Hanwar chickens because they don't put up any kind of fight. What they do is they have these screens around the pitch
Starting point is 00:21:49 and you can, using your computer or your phone, you can put your photo on the screens and you can make the screens do Mexican waves or do cheers or chants or whatever. I just think that's quite a... That is cool. That's so sad, isn't it, though? I mean, so the players...
Starting point is 00:22:05 Is the idea that the players are supposed to feel rejuvenants? at the sight of automated things which are being forced mechanically to cheer them on. Yeah. When you put it like that? Yeah. I think it's a bit demoralizing. It's solving the wrong problem.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Like it's, the problem is the bad team. Not that the fans are booing because they suck so much. It's like, do you know what we got to solve about this? Our fans, they're the problem. Let's invest all our money
Starting point is 00:22:28 in futuristic robot fans and get a better coach here. As we lose again and again and again. Okay, so here's another way of using your fans, maybe a slightly better way. You guys don't like the robot thing. I like the robot thing.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I just think it's not solving an issue. Okay. Well, the Washington Bullets had this super fan called Robin Ficker. And what they would do with him is they'd let him sit behind the opposing coaches' bench. And they would give him a megaphone and he would make fun of the opposing team by shouting at them. So he would make fun of the coach's outfits. Or when the Chicago Bulls came to play, he read the sex passages of the Bulls' coach's autobiography. That's him
Starting point is 00:23:09 during the game. Wow. That is distracting. I was looking up robots and death and I found out that Jeremy Clarkson was nearly killed by a robot on Robot Wars. Apparently one of the robots was fighting another robot and a circular blade came loose and zoomed across the
Starting point is 00:23:25 studio and they had it on film and they played it back in slow motion and it went across his head two inches above his scalp. Whoa! We actually know who the first person to be killed by a robot war and his name was Robbie Williams. Robbie Williams. Yeah. How was he killed by robot?
Starting point is 00:23:39 It was in a... He was in a car factory or something like that, and he was in a fog factory, and he was hit by a protruding arm, and he was killed by that. So it was, like, because it was an arm, kind of was a robot.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah. Well, it was a big mechanical device. It was for moving car parts from one end of the factory to the other, and it just, he got hit on the head really hard for it. The second guy, he got killed by a robot,
Starting point is 00:24:02 his name was Kenji Urada, and that was two years later, and he got pushed into a grinding machine by a robot arm. Oh. Yeah. Like was it a malicious, with malicious intent? So there's never been a malicious death.
Starting point is 00:24:13 There is an innate human fear of robots. The first use of the word robot was in a plague by Czech, playwright, Carol Capet, called Rossum's universal robots. And it was about robots trying to take over and kill people. 9% of Americans, when surveyed, admit that they will have sex with a robot. Or would have sex with a robot. There was that book called Sex and Robots, which it's a guy who's a huge computer scientist and chess champion saying that.
Starting point is 00:24:37 that he thinks we'll have sex with robots within 50 years. Oh, he's one of the 9%. Yeah, definitely. They did have the first kissing robots in 2008. They were made in Taiwan, and they performed as the stars in Phantom of the Opera. They did an all robots cast a Phantom of the Opera, and these two robots kiss. And it's the worst kiss you've ever seen. Their heads come together, and then they pause for 10 seconds, and their heads pull apart.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's like a 12-year-old's disco. Empathetic robots are a thing that are just being experimented with, and they've sort of, are claiming they've invented where they're robots that respond to you. own facial expressions with matching facial expressions and they're preparing, why are you smite getting really creepily? Sorry. I'm going to stop looking at you. So they've come on with empathetic robots now whose face is top of everybody. They've come up with empathetic robots whose faces mirror the facial expressions that humans have in the hope that they can care for lonely humans in future.
Starting point is 00:25:28 But again, a bit like the fake cheering crowds in career. It seems like a sad thing if you need a robot to fake empathetic facial expressions in order to feel okay. Our buddy, Levin Skyra, who was on this podcast a few episodes ago, just actually took part in the opposite version of what we're talking about, which was the World Robot Football Cup. Oh, yeah. And he went out to Brazil, I think. It was in Brazil. Yeah, it was in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah. And so it was robots playing against each other at football. And Levin was saying that they've projected that within 50 years, a robot football team will be able to beat a human. football team. And within two months they'll be able to beat Man United. Did you see, so have you seen this, Dan, you've been away. So we're recording this on Wednesday, but on Tuesday, Man United played against M.K. Duns, who are a lower in the third tier of English football, and they lost 4-0. And there was a great thing on Twitter. There was a girl who'd got a free bet from an online betting site, and she put $2.50 on Man
Starting point is 00:26:27 United to win 4-0, but had accidentally put £2.50 on MK Duns to win 4-0. at 500 to 1. Wow. I know. And she was like, oh my God, oh my God, I've won over a thousand pounds.
Starting point is 00:26:41 That's great. Anyway, let's talk about, oh, would you like to talk about? I was going to talk about sports fans since we're on sports now. So I was looking up generally sports fans.
Starting point is 00:26:50 One of the amusing things I like that's happened in the past is that during baseball matches until about 100 years ago, because the stadium was smaller. If you hit the ball out of the stadium, it would fall into the long grass. And the game had to stop. for five minutes and everyone, the fans and the players had to spend five minutes searching for
Starting point is 00:27:08 the ball because they wouldn't have lots of spare balls. I think now in baseball, balls just get lost and that's it. They have, they bring spares. People take them, don't they? Yeah. Well, you get to it, if it comes out and you catch it, it's your ball. Yeah. That's how it works. Another thing about old baseball games where they didn't have as many umpires in those days. And some of the umpires were allowed to, if they weren't quite sure about a decision, they're allowed to consult the audience, consult the crowd. Like he wants to be a millionaire. Yeah, exactly. And see. what the crowd thought and then use their ideas if they couldn't really work it out.
Starting point is 00:27:37 72% of the audience thinks that that was a home run. God, it must have sucked when you were playing away games. Yeah. He blatantly made it and you just missed it. Did he make it? No. Definitely not. So I think the angriest any sports fans have ever been,
Starting point is 00:27:51 and James will know about this, must be during the Heidi game. Is that the Calvin Coleridge game? Heidi Gooseki. Yeah. I don't think I know about the Heidi game. It's so good. And it is frequently voting. the most exciting game of American football of all time.
Starting point is 00:28:06 It was Oakland Raiders versus New York Jets. And it was really close. The New York Jets were just ahead of the Oakland Raiders, but it was obviously a really thrilling match. It had about three minutes left. And suddenly, at the very last minute, the Oakland Raiders overtook the New York Jets, and they won, and it was a massive title,
Starting point is 00:28:19 and it was a massive deal. And NBC, the network that was broadcasting it, as it had overrun by a couple of minutes past its three hours, switched over automatically to show Heidi for all the kids on the other channel. Now, they didn't want to do this. The NBC executive sort, that it was a really thrilling match and we're like, well, we've got to obviously keep this on the airwaves. So they tried to call the studio to say, obviously keep the match on guys.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Look at this. This is the biggest match ever. But so many people, so many angry fans were trying to call the studio to say, I can't believe you're going to switch over to Heidi. It's outrageous. I want to watch the rest of the match. That their phone lines broke down and the executives couldn't get through to the studio to say, keep it on.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So in the great irony of fan complaints, they caused Heidi to overtake the match by calling breaking the phone lines. And Heidi came on. And then NBC managed to irritate people further, I think, by during this episode of Heidi, there was a really touching scene where Heidi's disabled sister, I think, learns to walk. And they thought, what can we do to remedy this? So they flashed up the score suddenly for all the fans in the middle of Heidi. So just all these little kids suddenly tearing up at this scene. NBC, it sounds like an episode of 30 rock.
Starting point is 00:29:28 My favourite baseball player just before we finish is Joe Sprintz. okay and he'd um one of his rivals another baseball catcher had caught a ball that had been dropped from the top of a building and he got a world record for the highest catch from a high point so he decided that he wanted to beat this um record and so he got a friend to go up into a blimp and someone was going to drop the ball from the top of this hot air balloon and he was going to catch it oh my god okay um he caught it in the way that baseball players do with his mitt directly above his face. The ball hit his mitt, the mitt hit his face,
Starting point is 00:30:08 and he fractured his jaw and lost five teeth. And apparently he dropped the ball. Oh. And someone alongside him just went, Stop hitting yourself. Why hitting yourself? Okay, that's it for this episode. That's all our facts.
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Starting point is 00:30:54 We'll see you then. Goodbye.

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