No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Restaurant Menu For Hats
Episode Date: November 17, 2017Live from Cardiff, Dan, James Anna and Andy discuss listening to the radio with your hat on, the useless mating call of the pumpkin toadlet, and salmon-shaped mountains. ...
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Welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast this week coming to you from the Glee Comedy Club in Cardiff.
My name is Dan Schreiber. I am sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Andrew Hunter Murray, and James Harkin, and once again we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days.
And in no particular order, here we go. Starting with you, James.
Okay, my fact this week is the oldest surviving Sutty puppet
has just been bought at auction,
and it was bought by Sutty.
No.
Yeah?
It was by the new guy, Richard Cadell,
who's in charge of Sutty at the moment,
and whenever he bidded for it,
he bidded it with Sutty on his hand.
Oh, wow.
That is great.
That was very cool.
So it's like Sutty's emancipated himself.
Yeah.
Cool.
It's actually more like he sold himself back into slavery.
Yeah.
Okay, get this.
When they were on television together,
Souti and Sue were never allowed to touch each other
in case things got too steamy.
Yeah, so this is true.
Citi and Sue, when Sue was introduced,
there was a worry at the BBC
that this would introduce a sexual element
and too much sexual tension to the show.
and so she was only allowed in on sufferance
that she never touched him
and that he never touched her.
They didn't speak to her beforehand
and go, this is what you're not allowed to do, right?
Well, no, for internationalists
they're both glove puppet bears,
so it's easy to enforce.
But actually, Sue is a panda
and pandas aren't bears.
Oh.
So there's a certain amount of interspecies stuff going on there.
Yeah, true.
Wow.
Or not.
Wasn't she, was she voiced by the,
the wife of the person who did Sissy.
Yeah, Harry Corbett's wife played her,
but then Harry Corbett's son took over the role,
but his mum stayed playing the girlfriend.
But it was an unusual setup.
Yeah.
I think he actually replaced her, didn't he?
His daughter replaced her quite quickly
and said he didn't want her playing Sue anymore,
maybe because of that.
And also apparently the person who took over playing Sue said
she was getting a little bit older
and she was finding it a little bit harder
to read a script, watch a monitor,
work a puppet and smoke a cigarette
all at the same time.
Very uncomfortable for parole to sue.
But the sort of worry about sexuality,
this was in 1964, just so you know,
and they got so serious
that the Director-General of the BBC intervened personally.
This went all the way to his desk
and he called the host in and said,
I'm allowing it. But then two years later,
cancelled the show and it went to ITV, who didn't care.
Did they touch each other?
Well, then they went to shallow four and it got extremely steaming.
Sue did actually once have a pregnancy scare.
No, that's part of the plot.
She had a pregnancy scare, although it turned out she just had a cushion up her jumper.
Simpler times.
Imagine if you went to your gynecologist and said, I think I'm pregnant.
and they go
no, you just got a cushion up there, man.
And you're a man.
What the fuck are you doing?
And then I took my feet out of the stirrups
and I bit him good day.
But the Team America guys got in trouble
for their puppet sex scene properly, didn't they?
So they had to re-edit the sex scene
in Team America nine times
and re-submit it to the Motion Picture Association of America
to say, is this okay yet?
because the film association was saying
we can only classify Team America as
in America I think it's NC17
which is the rating that means that no under 18 year olds
are allowed to go and see it
just because these two puppets have sex
which and as I think
Trey Parker pointed out it doesn't make any sense
our characters are made of wood and have no genitals
and yet
it is a very it's a very rude scene
did you have to go with your mum
This is like watching the SOTTY show all over again.
Mighty Morphing Power Rangers got banned in Malaysia
because the morphin bit sounded too much like morphine.
They were famously sluggish, weren't they?
Yeah, well, you guys in the UK, you had Ninja Turtles,
which is what I call them.
Who? I'd never heard of them. Yeah, you called them hero turtles, didn't you? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, because they thought that you weren't able to deal with nunchucks, basically.
But they still have the nunchucks, didn't they?
No, no, they not just changed the name. I looked at a picture today because I had no idea that this was the case.
So Michelangelo, instead of having nunchugs...
Just has a feather.
He just has a nice cup of tea.
Yeah, he's like, that guy looks like he needs a hug from the hug turtle.
Yeah, it was...
Really? No, he had...
No, I mean, really, they did this.
Yeah, really? They did this.
Yeah, really, they changed it.
So he just had a grappling hook.
Is that right?
My memory is him having nunchucks.
No. In the opening scenes, there's a couple of seconds of nunchucks.
And then if you look at the pictures, maybe it was only for a few episodes.
Maybe they brought it back.
But he has a grappling hook.
Well, you can do a lot more damage with a grappling hook.
I know.
It's got spikes on the end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Pepper Pig.
This year, I think, or quite recently, was banned in Australia.
Just one episode it was.
And it was the episode where Pepper is taught that spiders are very,
small and can't hurt you.
It gets loads of complaints, Pepper Pig, though,
for being a bad influence on children.
And some of the things that parents have said
about it have written in and said,
a father wrote in to the people who make it
and complained that his son has started splashing
in muddy puddles on the way to school.
I know, but no, apparently that's bad.
And another mother wrote in and said,
she'd asked her daughter what she wanted for breakfast,
and she said chocolate cake.
And another said his son has stopped
eating cucumber and tomato sandwiches.
And these just all sound like terrible parents.
Yeah.
Hey, we need to move on to our second fact.
It is time for fact number two, and that is Andy.
My fact is that mountains are partly shaped by salmon.
Wow.
What?
Wow.
This is true.
This is absolutely true.
Salmon play a significant role in the shape of mountains.
It happens over a long period of time, obviously.
But, so salmon swim upstream to spawn.
And then as they do so, the female kind of stirs up the mud
and the sediment at the bottom when she's making a kind of nest in the water.
And that means that the river channels erode faster,
and it means they erode downstream faster.
And over hundreds of thousands of years,
a landscape where salmon spawn could be up to 30% lower
than a landscape with no salmon.
Wow.
Yeah, that's amazing.
There's a thing that one of our friends at QI mentioned the other day, actually,
which is that they're painting mountains white.
So this is...
Yeah, have you seen this? It's in the Peruvian mountains.
This is a guy who's going around painting them white
to combat global warming.
Not just one guy with one paintbrush, though.
It's pretty much slightly.
And to begin with, I mean, because to begin with,
everyone thought he was nuts.
And he said, all the ice and all the snow had gone off it.
And so it just was bare mountains.
And he went, oh, I'll save the ice and snow
by painting it white again to look like it has ice and snow.
But that's not what he's doing it.
That's not why he's doing it.
I stopped reading the article there.
Okay.
He's not gone.
I'll save these mountains
from not being covered in the snow
by making it look like they've got snow
and then maybe that'll convince them.
It's so that it keeps the surface cooler
because if you've got a white surface,
then it keeps the cooler than it's black.
Yeah, so I think the average rock
that's covered in white paint
is like 17 degrees cooler
than if it's got black paint.
And then the idea is that the ice will stay on it for longer
and then it can give everyone water
in nearby villages and keep the vegetation growing.
Yeah, mountain painting.
Didn't he win a Nobel Prize for that?
Um, I don't think so.
Yeah, maybe you did read the article then.
No, I definitely should have, though, shouldn't I?
Yeah, no.
He got some kind of a award,
maybe like a Nickelodeon or kids award or something like that.
Yeah.
And the tallest mountain in Colorado, okay,
is called Mount Elbert.
And it's next to another mountain called Mount Massive.
And Mount Massive is 12 feet shorter than Mount Elbert.
I think they're the third and fourth
or the second and third biggest mountains
in the whole of America
but they're next to each other
and a lot of, there are a lot of fans of Mount Massive
and what they like to do is go to the top of Mount Massive
and put a big pile of stones on the top
so that it becomes the biggest
but then Mount Albert has quite a few fans as well
and they keep going up and taking all the rocks down
Wow
Colorado is boring
Here's another fact.
Mountains can suffer from tired mountain syndrome.
So this has happened around the world in lots of different places,
but at the moment it's happening in North Korea.
And they have a mountain called Mount Mantap.
And due to all of the nuclear test there,
basically there's a load of geological damage
and the rock mass inside the mountain
just isn't kind of integral anymore.
Did you say it's called Mount Mantap?
Yes, I heard that.
That sounds like how...
Kim Jong-un refers to his penis, doesn't it?
God.
This made me think about other syndromes there might be.
So this is Tired Mountain Syndrome, just a few that I found online.
Floppy Trunk Syndrome.
That's the thing that elephants can get.
These are all very sad, by the way.
These are, you know, this is not like a happy flop.
Which is another Kim Jong-un-derived term.
Berserk llama syndrome.
That's the thing.
If you human rays a llama, they go crazy and they attack the humans.
A wobbly hedgehog syndrome.
Again, it's not a very nice thing if you're a hedgehog,
but it is if you're reading the words on the internet.
And there was a guy who was diagnosed with chronic lateness syndrome.
This is incredible.
This is a real thing, apparently.
It's a bit like ADHD,
and it means that he can't properly gauge how long.
long things take, so he's late for absolutely everything.
You're kidding.
Come on.
I've used this excuse so many times.
No, it is a real thing.
It's very funny.
You mentioned that, James, because I found out about chronic later syndrome, and it's weird.
He lives near here, and I've invited him to be at the show tonight.
And I just wonder, are you, um...
Oh, what a shame.
In 1945, when people first started testing atomic weapons,
Kodak found out about it before anyone else.
And I had no idea about this,
but this is because film, camera film,
is really sensitive to radiation,
and they got loads of complaints from people in America
saying, our camera film is fogging up.
And so a scientist who was working at Kodak,
looked into it and did some 1940s Googling.
And he deduced that they must be testing atomic bombs.
And he stayed quiet for a little while
because he thought, I'd like, I just won't get involved with that,
that's fine.
And they put some atomic-proof filters around their factory
and they just didn't mention it.
And then eventually they kept on damaging their films, this radiation.
And so they tried to sue the American government in 1951
for doing all these nuclear tests that was the worst thing about them,
apparently was that they were screwing up Kodak's film.
And the American government agreed to give them all the maps
and the schedule of all future nuclear tests
on the grounds that they didn't talk about this to anyone anymore.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
I know.
Just quickly Kodak in Mountains, this is an interesting connection.
when George Mallory and Irving, the original supposedly almost might have made it to the top of Everest before Hillary did,
when Mallory and Irving disappeared and there's been a big mystery ever since, did they make it or did they not,
there's been hunts that have been going on to find them.
And the one thing they're looking for is the camera that was had by Mallory and Irving because of the cold nature of the mountain, the film is preserved.
And Kodak say, if we find the camera, we'll still be able to develop it at this point.
But they do searches.
So one thing was when Hillary went to the top of the mountain, he did a very basic search
for Mallory.
He was looking for two things, the camera.
And the other thing was a picture of Mallory's wife because Mallory said he was going to bury
a picture of his wife on the top of the mountain.
So Hillary got up there, didn't find it.
Then in 1989, people went out to look for the camera.
And suddenly, perfectly preserved on the snow, was Mallory, the body of Mallory.
And they found everything on him.
They had his goggles, perfect condition.
and his ice pick.
They had his wallet.
They had everything.
The one thing they didn't have
was his camera.
So it must be on Irving,
but they were so close to finding out.
And check this out.
Another thing they didn't find
inside the wallet
was the picture of his wife.
Ooh.
But then again,
if I was dying,
I would quickly throw away
the photo of my wife.
So you wouldn't like be looking at it
with your dying breath.
You'd be like, oh, fuck.
I'd want her to be remembered
as, you know,
wife of the man who first climbed Everest.
And to successfully do that,
sometimes you have to cut some strings.
I'm sorry if that sounds harsh.
She would have understood, I think.
She would have understood.
Do you know how tall the smallest
unclimed mountain in Japan is?
I'll give you a clue.
It's in Osaka.
I'm going to go for 12,000 feet.
Okay.
That's high.
I only work in metres,
so I'm going to go for
the tallest, unclined...
Smallest, smallest.
The smallest...
Unclimed.
The smallest mountain that no one has bothered to climb.
This is the most ridiculous question I've ever been asked,
and I'm going to go for 1,600 metres.
Okay.
I'm going to go for four meters.
Yeah.
Hasn't grass the metric system yet.
So what's four metres in feet?
About 12.
It's like three feet.
No, no.
No, like a meter, it's longer than a third.
Okay.
That's got big feet.
You know what they say about men with big feet?
Big man's up.
It's almost like no one cares how tall the...
No, amazingly, Dan is almost absolutely bang on.
It is 15 feet above sea level.
No! Yes!
It's not a mountain!
It is a mountain.
The Japanese geospatial information authority
are very relaxed about what qualifies as a mountain.
I'm not kidding.
It's, um, yeah, it's called Mount Teng.
and it's basically a pile of dirt
which was dredged out of the harbour in
1832 to allow vessels to sail
in to the port and
that is not even the highest point in the park it is
in but
Japan's national tourist organisation
have said that they do have a mountain rescue
unit in case anyone gets lost on the slopes
Okay, shall we move on to fact number three
okay, it is time for fact number three
and that is Shuzinski. Yes, my
fact is that when King George
the 6th married the Queen Mother,
The Archbishop of Canterbury wouldn't let them broadcast the ceremony on the radio
in case people listened in the pub without removing their hats.
This was the BBC really wanted to broadcast it.
It was 1923 and BBC had just set up this radio station.
They wanted something to broadcast.
The Royal Wedding seemed like the right thing.
He wasn't George's 6th at the time.
This was before he was king.
But they asked if they could broadcast it.
And the Abbey chapter said, absolutely not veto,
because people all listen in the pubs and work.
they may listen with their hats still on
and it might be received in an irreverent manner.
So did people just used to just keep wearing their hats
inside the pub generally? No.
I think just like if you were really a complete
layabout, you know, if you're really a bad person,
if you're a drunk, then you might forget to take your hats off.
You might be wearing a baseball cap or something.
What, in 1930?
I don't know if it was baseball caps you had in mind.
Sure, but what I'm saying is that people do sometimes wear,
hats in pubs.
But this was the thing, so you were supposed to take off your hat
inside if you were doing something
like watching a very respectable ceremony.
Well, you were always supposed to, really,
weren't you? Was it not an etiquette of always
taking your hat off when you're inside?
I was reading something etiquette and it was actually really
complicated, so I think on some inside
moments you wouldn't. Like, for instance, you see
pictures of bars in the 1920s where men
kept their hats on and that was apparently because
they couldn't rely on them not being stolen if they
took them off.
Yeah. I think the idea is, if you're in a place,
which is akin to a public street.
So it could be a corridor
or it could be a lobby of a hotel.
And I guess you could probably say
that a pub is a bit like that, maybe.
So what, then you can leave your hat on?
Yeah. Okay.
And let's the song came from.
Yeah, that's the chorus,
but then there's a big long list
of things that you're allowed to.
If you're in a corridor,
if you're in a lobby,
anywhere like a public street.
Cool.
You don't know that song, do you?
and men had to take off their hats
when the national anthem was being played
in the olden days in Etica
and it's really supposed to now as well
but women are allowed to
unless it's a unisex hat
so if it's a hat that anyone
I mean anyone can wear any hats
I'm not judging
but let's say it is a baseball cap
that is a unisex hat
then the women have to take the hat off as well
so it's the hat which is you know
God I can really imagine panicking
as to what gender my hat was
and what the right thing to do was at that moment.
I found out a really amazing thing about George the 6th.
In 1926, and as far as I can tell,
he's the only British monarch to have done this.
So this is prior to him being a king.
He competed in the doubles at Wimbledon as a tennis player.
Really? I don't know that.
How did he do?
He lost the first match and he was out for the rest of it.
But that's extraordinary.
that suddenly the prince of the UK
was suddenly there.
Imagine Prince Charles at the snooker.
You'd watch, wouldn't you?
Well, we have that one who rides the horses.
Zara Phillips.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, they all ride the horses.
Professionally.
Yeah, he was amazing.
So they got married only after him
trying really hard to marry the Queen Mother
for a long time.
He'd proposed twice in the past.
It's so weird.
that she was known as the Queen Mother all the way through
her life.
It's not like she was destined for the job, she should have known.
He was called Albert at the time, weirdly,
and she was called Elizabeth at the time,
and she refused his first proposal
because we kind of all remember the Queen Mother.
She was quite a spunky kind of character,
and at the time, she refused
because she didn't want to feel like she wasn't able
to be free to think, speak, and act
as she felt she ought to.
So he said, I'm only going to
marry this woman, I really love her. So his mom, Albert's mom, invited her up to her house and had
some really, really sharp words being like, okay, well, you have to marry my son. And then he
proposed again. And she said, no again. So good on her. And then he beat her down the third time,
like metaphorically. She was the first commoner to be married to a member of the royal family for
200 years, I think. Wow. But she was a commoner, but she was the daughter of the Earl of Strathmore,
and she grew up in Glam's Castle. Yeah.
So it's stretching commoner a little bit, isn't it?
And this is a really good fact I liked about George the 6th.
During the Indo-Pakistani War of 1947,
he technically was at war with himself
because he was the monarch of both those places.
Wow.
That's amazing.
So no, George, why are you hitting yourself?
And here's another fact.
When he died, there were more than 300,000 people
who queued up to see his body.
And that is just about the same thing.
same as the population of Cardiff.
Wow. Why did they all
go down to do that? You've got like a
weird connection to them.
They don't have much entertainment on here.
Next week at the
Glee Club, they're bringing the
body of King George,
let's say.
Just on royal weddings,
there was a thing where
Prince William and Kate Middleton got married,
another quite posh commoner
marrying into the royal family. But when
they got married, that was in 2011, I think,
New Zealand released an official stamp
to commemorate the occasion
except what they did was
they released the official stamp
which had a perforation down the middle
between William and Kate
so you could tear them apart
and get two stamps
God, really
did they do that on purpose?
I don't know, are they apologised?
I can't work out whether it would have been better or worse
for the perforation to go horizontally
and cut their heads off
they made the right choice.
it was Pippa Middleton's wedding, wasn't it?
And in our book, we have a little bit about that.
600 people were invited to Pippa Middleton's wedding,
300 guests, and 300 members of the public
who were allowed to stand in a pen outside the venue.
Did they have a trough at the very least,
or a nosebag each, maybe?
What was the...
Well, they didn't say exactly why it was.
Well, I guess officially it was kind of
just so that the local village can kind of be part of it or whatever.
But a lot of people thought that maybe it was to stop the paparazzi getting there or whatever
because there's so many people.
No one really knows.
But it was crazy.
There were more than 20,000 canapes.
20,000!
There would have been 10,000 fewer within five minutes.
So some royal weddings in the past have gone really badly,
and they're really fun to read about.
So George VIII, for instance,
he met his future wife, Carolina Brunswick, in 1795,
and it was the age when it was just arranged.
She was not flown over.
she was brought over to the UK.
And at the moment he set eyes on her,
his first words were,
I am not well, get me a glass of brandy.
And he proceeded to spend the next 24 hours in a drunken stupor
and the wedding night lying on the floor in a drunken stupor.
He arrived late to that wedding and stumbled up the aisle,
completely drunk,
and then he refused to say any of his vows
until his father ordered him to behave himself.
And they separated quite soon after that.
Wow.
I read that he only got married because Parliament said,
we will pay off your debts, but only if you marry this woman.
Yeah.
So that's the sole motivation he had.
He seems like the kind of person who would have racked up a lot of debts,
doesn't he?
Yeah.
And I think, did he stare at his mistress who was in the front row throughout the ceremony?
Poor woman.
Yeah.
There was another one.
In 1736, there was a German princess Augusta arrived in London.
She was 17 years old, and she had to marry the heir to the throne,
who was Frederick, who didn't end up becoming king.
but she was told by her mum, look, they all speak German there, it's fine, because she spoke no English.
She got there, nobody spoke any German.
She didn't speak any English.
She was absolutely terrified.
She was ushered down the aisles.
She was sobbing.
She was clinging to her mum's coattails, apparently, saying, please don't make me do this.
The groom, Frederick, apparently, just shouted the vows in her ear that she had to repeat verbatim.
And then immediately after that, she vomited all down her dress and all over the skirt of her new mother-in-law.
And that was the start of what turned out to be quite a happy marriage.
actually.
We have to move on shortly.
If you guys have anything before we do.
Oh, I've got one thing.
The movie, the King's Speech,
that was about George Sixth.
He had a stutter.
Did you deliberately?
It just came out as I did it.
Are you auditioning for the sequel?
So Colin Firth played him in the movie.
And in order to do it,
obviously he taught himself to do a stutter for the movie.
then the movie finished and Colin Firth found himself
not being able to get rid of the stutter
so then he himself had to be treated
for artificially manufactured stutter
is that great?
No way
way
I love that on the Dan's Wikipedia
if it ever existed you'd look for the citation
and at the bottom just a row of numbers
way way way
way
also I've got a quite nice hat little thing
so the politeness of the British with the hat back in the day
Michael Bond passed away this year
who was the author of Paddington Bear
and Paddington Bear was largely based on his father
and his father apparently was so polite and nice
that when he used to go swimming
he would wear into the ocean his trunks
and also his hat
just in case he passed someone as he was swimming
so he could say oh good day to you
I'd tip his hat to them.
Is that lovely?
Yeah.
Did you know that on a hat etiquette,
the reason we have cloak rooms today
where you put your hat and your coat in a cloak room
is because of hats in the olden days.
So when everyone was wearing hats up until the early 1900s,
they took up half the space in restaurants.
Because as we said earlier,
men had to take off their top hats
when they went inside into a restaurant, for instance.
But then you didn't want to leave it under the table
because it couldn't really fit.
So it would take up a second chair.
and there was a guy
this guy called
AJ Liebling
at one point said
you know our restaurants are 50%
occupied by hats
who don't eat anything
we should really invent
a cloak room to store these
and that's where they came from
It would be lovely if there was a smaller
hat table
with you know
and a hats menu
you're right
well they all got to hang out together
yeah
okay should we move on to our final fact
okay it is time for our final fact of the show
and that is my fact.
My fact this week is that the Brazilian frog,
known as the pumpkin toadlet,
has a mating call that can be heard
by every animal out there,
except for one, other pumpkin toadlets.
It turns out their death.
They do these croaks to get their attention,
and they keep getting eaten.
They're probably going,
why am I exposing myself so much?
And it turns out it must be an evolutionary thing
where they did used to be able to hear
and somewhere along the line
they went deaf, the entire species.
I think there's subspecies within the pumpkin toadlet
so there's two species specifically that are deaf.
And what they think is
that when they're doing the call,
the way it moves their neck,
another pumpkin toadlet,
female pumpkin toadlet,
sees the moves of like the shakes or whatever
of the toad and they're like,
ooh, that looks like he might be saying something.
I have no idea.
But it looks hot.
so I'll go over.
But what usually would happen
in evolution purposes
is that you would lose the call
because you would protect yourself from predators,
but they haven't.
And it's the first case that we've ever found
of an animal that hasn't lost
the call when it's redundant
and exposes it to predators.
But it will be getting there, presumably.
We're always surprised when we find animals
that, you know, haven't evolved
into this perfect being.
But presumably in a few million years it's there.
We're just in the shit phase.
Wow.
you're right.
We're in the learning phase.
When you're in the ship phase, you do often die out.
You get extinct, don't you?
Yeah, that is a risk for the toadet.
Apparently, they do little waves as well.
Yeah.
They go like this.
Well, I can understand why the females come are flocking.
I must admit that is a great podcast material, is it?
Yeah, yeah.
What James was doing is he was making a gesture that made it seem like he was trying to, like,
work out somebody's height.
It's like, you have a child.
Is that 4 foot, 5 foot, 4.5?
Yeah.
What's that like 4 meters?
Three meters?
Five or six meters.
Okay.
Yeah, so fortunately for the frog, it happens to be the case that, and it's like a bright
orange color.
Yeah, they're really tiny, aren't they?
They're really tiny.
They're really tiny.
I like the size of your thumbnail almost.
They're really super small.
Yeah, and their call is quite soft as a result.
But they still can be heard by the Predators.
But they are incredibly tall.
toxic. So if they do get eaten, they might end up killing the predator anyway. So they're probably
just actually just being really cocky. And they're just going, hey, I'm here, I'm here. What are you going to do?
What are you going to do? Nothing. Do you know that there's a type of frog called a cocky frog?
No, really?
It's in, I think, I can't remember where they're from. They're from an island somewhere, but they're now
on Hawaii, which is also an island. But it's a different island where they're from. But they're on
Hawaii and they make a hell of a racket.
They're really, really loud.
And a load of people in Hawaii are really hating this
because it keeps them awake at night when they're mating.
You just get loads of horny frogs
just making loads and loads of noise.
That's like there's something called
the, so I was looking at
other sounds that
animals can make. And I was wondering
do fish make mating calls?
And they make
really loud ones. So there's a
fish called the plain fish midshipman
fish, which is in the toad fish family.
So it's got toad relations, and it hums to attract mate.
So it makes this hum which sounds like a guitar amplifier,
or it sounds like a flock of bees?
Flock of bees.
Sure, a flock of peas.
Yeah.
And it turns out that they make so much noise
that they live in California
and their constant complaints to the police
for the noise that they make
because they're disrupting people's sleep
and drowning out people's conversations.
And they growl and they grunt as well
to keep out intruders,
and they didn't know what it was for a long time,
so people were calling the police saying,
someone's keeping me awake all night.
And it's them.
And the person who eventually found out
about this weird noise that they make
is a researcher called Andrew B-A-B-A-Dubble-S,
which is the first case of double nominative determinism
I've ever found.
As in it's a fish,
and it's the bassy noise that the fish make.
I thought there was a fish species called Andrew.
That makes more sense
The hundred fish
Yeah
Did you guys know
Some frogs call so much
And so vociferously for a mate
That once they've got a mate
They're too tired to follow through
And have sex with the female
The female arrives
And they say, I'm sorry, I can't, I'm no good to you now
They lose loads of weight, don't they?
They can't eat, they can't sleep
And they're so weak
That they're just a floppy mess
And it feels like
Everyone's had a night like that.
I mean, that is...
I've overdone it.
I found the really cool one.
There's a frog in Taiwan.
It's an urban city frog,
and it does a mating call,
but it's worked out how to make their mating call better.
It goes to storm drains,
and it uses it as a megaphone.
So it gets to the top of a storm drain,
and it literally is just whatever, it's your...
I'm super horny.
Horry, honey, honey, honey.
Honey, honey, honey, honey, holy, holy.
And they found that the female frog goes to the edge of the storm drain,
so it works for them.
But do the females know that it's not a...
Because it must sound like a massive frog.
It must sound like a super frog.
It must, you're right, yeah.
Do you know the biggest frog that's ever lived?
It was about the size of a beach ball and it ate dinosaurs.
Wow.
Not like T-rexes, though.
No, like baby dinosaurs, yeah.
So the common toad, the Latin,
name for that is Bufo Bufo.
And this frog was known as,
or is known as Bielza Bufo.
Nice.
That's his official name as well.
But it was the size of a beach ball
and they worked out how strong
its bite was and its bite
was about 2,200 newtons
which is about the same as a lion's bite.
Wow.
Do you know how
porcupines attract each other
or how male porcupines attract females?
It's really fine to watch.
awesome spikes.
It is actually, in a way, yeah.
They stand up on their hind legs,
and they move, they shuffle towards the female
just with their penis fully erect.
And that's how they do it.
It's an uncompromisingly direct flirting method.
It's good.
There's no question over what he's after.
We like that.
Or sometimes, and you can see pictures of this,
they hop, they lift one arm, their front,
front paw off the ground and they hop on the other one whilst clutch with the one that's off
the ground. They do. And this attracts the women and if the woman or the female porcupine likes that
enough, the crotch dance, then she'll allow them to have sex with her and usually if she's not up for
sex then a male porcupine can't get in there because she's so spiny and then the way you know that
she likes you is she puts her tail up and it covers all of her spines which means that you will not
be impaled. Which is a very good system.
Do you know that some frogs change color
to make their life easier when they're in orgies?
Really?
If you're in an orgy, your life doesn't get much easier, does it?
Yeah, you've made it, you're fine.
Well, it does if you're a frog, you see,
because there's a lot of them.
There's loads and loads of frogs all get together.
Might be a particularly nice puddle or something.
But these are in some species.
They all get together, and they'll just shagg anything.
male, female, tennis ball, whatever.
There are some pictures of tennis balls
landing into this orgy of frogs
and all the frogs just go for it.
Really? What happens to the match?
George's six going, damn you!
So that's what happens.
But there are some species,
a lot of these species who do this kind of group mating,
they also change colour,
and no one was really sure why,
and it seems that the reason they do it
is to say, I'm a man or I'm a woman, you know, keep off me.
Oh, wow. It's like when you go to those parties at Union,
you have to wear a traffic light color, depending on how available you are.
Exactly. But the problem is, at the start, they're all green.
Have you heard of this thing? So when frogs have, it's called explosive breeding, isn't it?
They do this thing called explosive breeding, which is, instead of mating all year round,
they have one session, you know, every year, and all the mating happens then.
So, some females, because there's a horrible crush of bodies,
some females are crushed to death in these things.
Unfortunately...
It's already unfortunate.
Yeah.
Let me rephrase, put the common in a different place.
Some females are crushed to death, unfortunately.
But the male frogs will still mate with them successfully.
Wow.
Successfully.
Okay, so it's all about...
The mating happens outside the body,
because the female produces eggs,
the male produces sperm,
and they meet outside the body.
So the males sort of go up and squeeze the females.
Oh, God.
And they squeeze...
It's just nature, guys.
It's just nature.
It can't be gross if it's just nature.
No, that's not a defense for anything.
Yeah, and they squeeze the eggs out of their body
and then mate with them.
Amazing.
Yeah, it is messed up, sorry.
So Seahorse, we can...
Don't boo the frogs.
It's their instinct.
I don't think the frogs are the ones being booed.
He's pointing at me.
I know, mate.
So seahorses have the best mating rituals,
the best way of attracting each other,
which people might have seen.
But it's so great.
So they change colour as well to attract mates.
And then when they've got something
that they think they fancy,
they swim for hours and hours.
together and they get their tails intertwined
and they go snout to snout and they spin
around and they do this incredible dance
but another thing they do is when they're in the flirting
period they meet up every morning
and they hang out together for a couple
of hours and then they part ways again
they date each other. I know it's so sweet
and so they do this sort of pre-dawn dance where they meet
up they do that and then once
they're ready on like the fourth or fifth
date or whenever you think is appropriate
then they do the full
eight-hour courtship
that ends in pregnancy.
And that's...
You see, Andy, this is how you tell
a story about animal mating.
Yeah.
There's no booing going on there.
Does the seahorse then die?
And then they just punches it in their head
until the eggs come out?
Yep.
Is that the...
That's the romantic climax.
Right.
Sorry.
I didn't think it was interesting
and I realize it's just horrible
David Attenborough doesn't get this shit
does he?
Necro is David Attenborough
He picks his targets carefully
We need to wrap up shortly
We need to get in the van and leave this time
Thank you for listening to the last
ever episode
I'll love such thing
as a fish.
You guys
got anything
before we do?
I can give you
some names of frogs.
Great.
I read a list
of all the names
of all the frogs.
Andrew, Billy, Bobby.
Well, Andrew's a fish
as we've established,
so there is
the demonic poison frog.
They all have amazing names.
The hole in the head frog.
The brilliant
thied poison frog.
And the Pobblebog.
The word?
Popblebong.
Pobblebong.
You have to say it like that.
That's appropriate because someone had a frog in their throat
as they named that animal.
All right, let's wrap up, guys.
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