No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Sentient Iceberg
Episode Date: October 9, 2015Live from Up The Creek Comedy Club, Dan, James, Andy and Anna discuss ancient lost property offices, the Town Crier World Championships and how to make fire from ice. ...
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No such thing is a fish, a weekly by the three-regory.
Anna Chisinski and James Harkin.
And once again, we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days.
And in a particular order, here we go, starting with me.
My fact this week is that in winter, we should all wear our socks outside our shoes.
Right.
Because...
And this is science that says we should do this.
Oh, Mr. Science.
Yeah.
This is a really interesting thing.
It was a thing that they did in New Zealand.
What they did was in New Zealand, they were saying that, okay, people keep slipping over.
How do we fix this?
And someone has worked out.
If you wear your socks outside of your shoes, it gives you incredible grip, which means you will never slip on ice.
So in wintertime, in London, where we're recording this, or if you're overseas and you get winter and you get all the icy floor, take your socks off.
Or get a second pair and put them outside your shoes.
Treat yourself
But yeah, so it's a really interesting study
I read the study
I think it won or it's been reported
by the Ig Nobel people
It might have won an Ig Nobel Prize
And I read the report
And they said
Although participants in the intervention group
Were told they could keep their socks
Many, who appeared to have image issues
opted to return them
Including one young man who probably fell
on leaving the assessment area.
Amazing.
Have any of you guys seen the video posted by Alan Anderson online,
and it's him.
He's a father of a girl who goes to school,
and he goes to pick up his child from school,
and he spends six full minutes filming people slipping over.
Does anyone see that?
Are they all like children?
Yeah, yeah, they're all children.
Oh, my God.
He just sits in this.
And it is extraordinary, the regularity with which.
they slip over, there's this corner of pavement,
and every single child that walks around it
falls flat on their ass, or their face,
or their head, whatever.
Was he out there before he set up the camera,
pouring colds of water on the pavement?
You don't want a waste of morning's shooting, as what I'm saying.
It also shows his good fathering skills,
because at one, about three minutes into the video
when he's filmed about, I don't know, 55 children falling over.
His daughter leaves school and turns up at the car,
and he's like, not going to go yet, watch this, honestly.
Anna, it's another three minutes of him and his nine-year-old daughter going,
yeah, that is hilarious.
So good, you should watch it.
The thing about the socks going over your shoes,
it doesn't work apparently if the socks are wet.
And obviously, if you're walking on snow or ice, they will be soon.
Just speaking of kids, it's interesting that I think it is a New Zealand thing
that they have recognised as just a local thing that people do.
they know to wear socks outside their shoes.
Because in 1989, two researchers extracted gossip from a group of young seven to 11-year-olds.
That sounds really sinister, with you.
Now that I read it again.
Extracted gossip?
It's just a single needle.
So these were, I'm corrected rereading my sentence.
It wasn't in New Zealand.
It was American school children.
Oh, well, that's all right.
And they asked each child to discuss the reputations of each of their classmates.
And this is what they said.
Some of them were warning signs of weirdness, apparently.
It said, eats like a pig.
That's one thing they would say.
Bang's head on desk.
Sounds like a car.
Fidgety.
Acts like a monster.
We're socks over shoes.
Sensible.
They should have said that after that.
Brackets, sensible.
Sounds like a car.
Sounds like a car.
Was that all one guy?
What when everyone's slipping?
He's going past going, going,
right.
Do you know that they wear over socks in pro-cycling sometimes?
Really?
Yeah, wearing socks over your shoes is a thing in cycling.
Really?
How come?
Well, in the spring, when they're racing,
it gets really kind of grotty and muddy and whatever,
and they have these really lightweight shoes.
And the idea is you put your socks over it,
and it won't damage the shoes.
That's good, isn't it?
But the shoes aren't on the ground.
You're a much better cyclist than I am.
Yeah, no, it gets muddy and it kind of splashes up.
And I saw an FAQ on a cycling website.
And the question was,
what is the point of wearing socks over your shoes?
And the answer was,
experiencing the thrill of having non-cyclists within earshot impertinently observing that you have forgotten your shoes
or that you have put them and your socks on in the wrong order.
That does sound worth it.
There is something you can do if you're not into the socks over shoes look that Canadian researchers have discovered recently,
which they've developed a new material where you implant glass fibers into shoes and they're selling these shoes where
these little shards of glass,
actually these tiny spikes.
That sounds very, very safe.
I think that, I mean,
it's not just a kid at home,
jabbing broken wine bottle up into his own trainers.
We've all been there.
No, but I like this.
So it was casually reported in new scientists.
The researchers who tested this material
did it in a floating lab,
which was casually referred.
So it was a floating lab
is a lab that gets hoisted into the air,
then tilted at whatever sloping tilt or whatever gradient you want to tilt it to.
So that's how they test these kind of things,
is you just hoist this whole laboratory up,
and then you get people to wear these ice shoes, glass shoes.
That's amazing.
And you tilt it.
I think that's so cool.
Yeah.
Floating labs.
Just genuinely interesting.
Here's something that's not that interesting.
Oh, yeah, please.
I thought I'd look into sock puppets.
Oh, yeah.
So I went on to Wikipedia.
And Wikipedia says that sock puppet.
is a puppet made from a sock or similar garment.
And I would argue that something made from,
that's something that's not a sock, really isn't a sock puppet.
Well, you've got sock puppets that are made of socks.
You've got glove puppets, which are made of gloves.
You've got finger puppets, obviously, which are made of fingers.
I think they're creepy, though.
He approaches every normal human.
Take off those finger puppets.
Show me your true hand.
I got told on the way here by Alex Bell, who always appears on our podcast.
I got told that.
So, I mean, just on the, because we were talking on the way over here about how when you do slip on ice,
obviously you can break your ankle, you can hurt yourself really badly.
And he told me that during the filming of the movie Troy, the filming was actually delayed
because Brad Pitt, who was playing Achilles, injured his Achilles here.
No.
Yeah, true fact.
True fact that I didn't Google, I just believed it.
I read an article in The Independent from 1993, which opened,
congratulations to the several hundred readers who wrote in with creative suggestions for using an odd sock.
So this is obviously a competition they were running.
And it said, this list, which is by no means exhaustive, will be put to good use.
And suggestions for using an odd sock.
and they are good suggestions.
They include, with suitable holes,
as a coat or balaclava for a furry animal.
That's my own.
That's the best bank heist you've ever seen.
Frozen, if a sock is frozen,
use it as a boomerang.
Because I guess the heel has that shape.
And if it's unfrozen,
as a bag for a boomerang.
We should move on to a second fact very soon.
What?
What?
I'm sorry.
Well, what else you guys go?
The original fact was about snow and ice.
Yeah.
And this is just something I found interesting.
You can start a fire using ice.
Pretty cool.
If you carve a piece of ice into a lens and you focus the sun's rays through it,
you can start a fire in a few seconds.
Wow.
How cool is that?
And you need the tools to chip away at a chunk of ice, but you can do it.
You've seen it being done.
That sentence could have read, you can turn your child into a...
What?
Car.
Well, you could do that with most things, presumably, right?
You can't focus the razor with son through a child.
Well, then my experiments have been all in vain.
Should we move on?
Yeah, let's move on.
Okay.
It is time for fact number two, and that is Andrew Hunter Murray.
My fact this week is that ancient Jerusalem's lost property office
just involved shouting about what you had lost in the hope that somebody had found it.
So, wow, really?
Yeah.
So they've just found in the...
the ruins of ancient Jerusalem a particular podium.
And there are a couple of theories about its use.
One is that it was a sort of speaker's corner.
And the other is that it was a lost property office
because there are a couple of ancient Jewish texts
which mention a stone of claims.
And that's where you would go if you'd lost something.
And the idea is that you would tell an announcer
and then he would shout out to the crowd
and see if anyone had found anything that was like that.
And that was how you were reunited with your lost stuff in ancient Jerusalem.
I just think that's the best idea ever.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Well, you kind of need everyone in the country to be stood around the guy at the time.
It's not really going to work in London, is it?
That's the floor.
What, it's never been tried in London.
Oh, yeah.
We've just found this out as well, right?
Yeah, they've just found the podium.
So they're trying to work out what it was for.
So this is one of the theories, yeah.
The wailing wall is in Jerusalem, isn't it?
Is that?
I don't think that was originally a lost property.
Are we definitely sure about that?
Whaling.
And it's a bit like town criers,
I think.
You know, you would have, oh, yay, oh, yay, someone's lost the socks or whatever.
That probably happened in the olden days.
Sure.
In Goslar, in Germany, they had a town crier who was employed to remind the local
pot place not to urinate or defecate into the river the day before the water was drawn
for brewing beer, which I think we can all agree is a very useful job.
There was a town crier called Keith Jackman of Christchurch,
and he has been deafened by the sound of his own bell.
He's been doing the O-Ye for 25 years, and he's gone deaf.
That's really sad.
It is, isn't it?
He should have won those headphones, earmuffs that builders were.
Yeah, he should have done.
What an idiot.
It's the absolute worst kind of tinnitus, isn't it?
Though it's just like, dong, dong.
Do you remember the guy?
I can't remember his name, but when Prince George...
George was born was announced by a town crier.
And everyone was like, oh, this is fantastically old school.
This is wonderful.
And it turns out it was just a guy who just decided to arrive and announce it.
And he is a town crier, but in a very different town to where it was being announced.
And he just walked up it.
Here you, here you.
He announced it.
And everyone was like, oh, this is so nice.
And the royal family were going, who the hell is this guy?
Do you remember that?
I hope he drove down all the way saying, I've got to tell them.
How else will they know?
And the bells next to him in the car with a little seatbelt on it.
Just you and me this time, Glenda.
Championships, I just think this is so amazing that these kind of things have the budget for this.
I've been there once.
What?
Did not place.
The last ones?
The one I went to was in either Lancashire or Yorkshire, I can't remember.
Cool. The last one was in Bermuda, so I feel like...
Do you ever get the feeling you chose the wrong year?
I'm not going for town crisis.
Anyway, this year it's the first time a Brit has won the town choir championship.
It's very exciting.
Mark Wiley beat off 24 other contestants.
We're like, oh yeah!
So this guy won 24 other contestants.
What he won was an awful lot of rum, he said, which I need it for medicinal purposes.
He explained which is understandable after the trauma he'd undergone.
I've got stuff on Lost and Found.
This story is, this is from the BBC News website for Berkshire in 2011.
A mother has praised Reading buses for finding and returning her son's sausage casserole.
Her son's sausage casserole after he left it on a bus.
Sent an email via social media network site Facebook to thanks to thanks.
staff at the bus company for saving her family's dinner.
The sausage casserole, which was made by her son in his food technology class at school,
ended up in lost property.
The casserole was retrieved by Mrs. Stout and eaten.
Having taken an unscheduled route around West Reading,
the money is the greatest story ever.
The NFL published a couple of years ago,
a list of the most interesting stuff they've had in their lost property that's been claimed or not claimed.
One of which was, so one of the most common items to have a lost property,
false teeth, which is weird anyway.
People, I don't know, relax, take them out, leave them there.
Anyway, a man came back, claimed his false teeth, took them away, and then returned a few
hours later, grimacing and saying, actually, these aren't mine.
Kent Police are now saying that they're no longer accepting lost property items.
Yeah, yeah. So if you bring them a lost property item, they say, take it to Facebook or Twitter,
and you now have to tweet or Facebook the lost property item.
Yeah, they no longer deal with it.
Which really messes around with the law on lost property, because you're meant to take reasonable steps to return it to its owner.
And if you go to the police and then several weeks past and they haven't reunited it with its owner, then you have the best claim on it after the owner, because you found it.
So I don't know how it works in the age of doing it on social media if that's what qualifies as a reasonable effort.
And very quickly, there's a thing, the code of Hamurabi is the oldest legal code we have.
And it has a section on lost property.
So if somebody finds something he's lost in the possession of another man, right?
And the person who has it now bought it from a salesman,
and they've both got witnesses that they bought it honestly and that they owned it before,
then since the seller was the thief, he should be put to death.
If the man who was found with the property couldn't produce the seller to make the sale,
but the original owner did have witnesses, then since the professed purchaser was a thief, he should be put to death.
Finally, I think you know where this is going.
If you could not produce witnesses proving that you, in fact, owned it before, it was found in the possession of the other guy.
Since he was a cheat and stated a false report, he shall be put to death.
There's no scaling down in this lost property.
We need to move on.
Okay, it is time for our next fact, and that is Chazinski.
Yes, my fact is that the man.
who discovered why we sweat
did so by getting in a sauna
with a dog, a steak and an egg.
And then it just came to him.
I think you're going to have to explain, Anna.
So this is this guy called Charles Blagson,
who not very much is written about.
And so he was a British physician
in the late 18th century.
And he was invited actually to, you know,
by other scientists,
get into their sauna and find out why we sweat.
And he decided, and he persuaded a whole bunch of friends to come in with him.
And he subjected himself to ridiculous temperatures.
So in 1775, he went up to 127 degrees Celsius, so way above boiling point.
Sitting in the sauna, found he was able to sit there.
He was in one naked from the waist up.
In others, he had to wear clothes because otherwise your skin singes.
Were there any way he was naked from the waist down?
The dog's looking worried
But yeah
So there was a thought that
How could he possibly have survived this?
Because people didn't know that humans could thermoregulate
Like we know we can now
So how could we possibly survive being 127 degrees Celsius
So there was an idea that the thermometer must be wrong
So rather than get like a few thermometers in there
To you know controls
He invited in his dog and an egg and some mistake
Nature's thermometer
And he's thermometers
and he found that the egg cooked extremely fast,
the steak cooked almost even faster.
And the dog?
25 minutes at Gas Market 8.
No, the dog's fine because animals can thermoregulate.
But the way, when you read his write-up of it,
it reads a bit like a cooking, a cookery book
because it's mainly to be focused on how well-cooked the steak is.
He's sitting in there, you know, like 100.
50 degrees C.
He says, we put eggs and beef steak in there.
After 20 minutes, the eggs were taken out, roasted quite hard.
In 47 minutes, the steak was not only dressed, but almost dry.
Another beef steak was rather overdone in 33 minutes.
And then in the evening, he explained that you could cook the steak even faster
by using bellows to blow the hot air onto it.
And he explained that the greatest part of the steak was pretty well done within 13 minutes.
So he's either telling you how to cook steak,
or he's explaining that humans can thermoregulate
and in a way that steak can't.
So, yeah, this is how he discovered
that by sweating, we are able to not boil to death
when temperatures reach.
I guess this guy today is most famous for Blagden's Law,
which is the idea that if you put salt in water,
it takes longer to boil.
That's what he's famous for.
Do they use that in freezing on the roads?
Is it the same principle?
It's kind of the same principle.
If you put salt in, then ice doesn't form as...
Yeah, it's similar to that.
It's similar to when people put salt into water to, like, boil pasta or something.
They think that the temperature will boil lower, but actually, that's not really true.
You could put as much salt as you want, like, a hell of a lot of salt into a bowl of pasta,
and it would change the boiling point by four hundredths of a degree.
Oh, okay.
So, really will make much difference.
But I read the article on him in the Dictionary of National Biography,
and Dr. Johnson, who wrote the dictionary,
said that he was a delightful fellow, this guy.
But there was another guy called Count Rumford
who didn't really like him as much
because Blagden had fought against him
for the hand of Lavoisier's wife.
So Antoine Lavazier,
who, he was a person who,
there was an idea that people thought
that when things burned,
there was an element called Flodgistan,
and this was the element that allowed things to burn.
And then he died.
and then his wife married this guy called Count Runford.
And weirdly, he is the person who disproved that something called caloric,
which was another element, which was what happened when things heated up, happened.
So she was married to the guy who disproved Flogiston,
which was a fake element for burning,
and then was married to a guy who disproved caloric,
which was the fake element for warming things up.
Wow.
Wow.
That is really interesting, but not funny.
niche.
She had very niche taste.
Yeah, really niche, isn't it?
Bizarrely, I have a fact about Dr. Johnson and sweat.
Great.
So in Dr. Johnson's dictionary, the word swelts, as in swelter these days,
but the definition for the word swelt is to puff in sweat,
if that be the meaning.
Which I decide.
Out of the writer of the dictionary.
So it be the meaning.
I was, so the fact is about why don't people cook effectively when they're in a sauna,
because that's what he was trying to find out.
Well, that's, I mean, that's slightly what he was trying to find out.
It's, it's, okay, it wasn't what he was trying to find out.
Oh, sorry.
I have missed research this fact.
It was more about how steaks do cook and humans.
Yeah, I would say, yeah.
Exactly.
Humans, how can you get this kind of heat?
And with the dog, it was the tongue that was panting that allowed for it to regulate its heat.
I just, I feel like we have to explain why that was.
confusing, maybe to some people and to you, when you say why don't people cook, you mean why don't
people themselves get really hot? It's not, why don't people enter a sauna to make a fry up
or a roast dinner? Yes. That's, yeah, that's, so I googled, um, how hot can a human get?
And, did my photo come up? Well, there were a lot of, there were a lot of really interesting
articles. Like, it looked like there were, they were, they looked like there were good answers to
the question, but I got really distracted because, you know, when you Google,
something.
I was naked from the waist down.
So when you Google something, at the very bottom when you scroll down, it says related searches.
You know when you see that?
Yes.
And then it gives you a new sentence that you can say.
So I googled how hot can a human get?
And the related search that I got was, can a human get a dog pregnant?
I do research for tonight on the fact.
That is, Charles Blagden discovered two things in that sort of.
The answer to the second was no.
Well, that's a thing.
Can you get a dog pregnant?
Was that someone...
Is that a lot of people typing that out of curiosity,
or are they worried?
Didn't say.
It didn't say.
But it is interesting that all dogs can mate successfully with all other dogs.
That is true, isn't it?
Yeah.
I just find that amazing.
Yeah, like...
But it is true, like a tiny chihuahua can mate with a massive...
Yeah, great name, right?
And make a new dog, right?
Make it, that's the point of it.
A lot of explaining to do ones.
The show is that.
Finland, there's a sauna elf.
So we've spoken about this on the podcast before.
Finland loves saunas like crazy.
Their parliament has a sauna,
and a lot of very big moments have happened in a sauna.
When they've been negotiating, they'll go,
let's go to the sauna, and they'll sit it out until they decide.
But part of their, there's an equivalent of the boogeyman in Finland,
which is the sauna elf, and he's called Sonatontu.
And I'm sure in a different accent.
And sonatontu, basically, if you're naughty in a sauna, he'll burn it down and kill everyone.
Shut, not into is coming to the towel, and he's burning the sword.
That's very good.
We're going to have to move on to our final fact.
Okay, time for our final fact, and that is James.
Okay, my fact this week is that stick insect sex can last for 79 days,
and the insects are stuck together the whole time.
Wow.
That's like Sting and his wife, right?
Isn't that a...
Is that tantric?
I think you've got confused.
It stings, is what they said.
Yeah, so stick insects, you would think they're really boring,
but actually they have quite, well, lengthy sex.
I wouldn't...
I would say it's that exciting.
I think, yeah.
Yeah. I don't suppose stick and sex could probably, like, have sex that quickly because they might set each other on fire.
Good point.
But these guys, they're the genitalia are in contact for 40% of the time of the 79 days.
So they are kind of, you know, at it for a lot more than time.
I read a theory that the males drag it out so as to stop other males from mating with the female.
Yes.
I read that from an entomologist blogger called Bug Girl,
which is where I got this fact from originally.
But she actually found several reports of stick insect group sex in the literature,
which means that maybe he's not trying to keep it in the couple.
No, in the couple.
That's why dogs do it, though, right?
So if anyone's had a dog who's mated, dogs can stay attached to their bitches
for up to 40, 45 minutes, standard.
And it's so that another dog...
Only Anna could get away with that sentence.
These are just zoological terms, guys.
But yeah, that's to stop another dog getting too involved.
So sometimes other males do sneak up, not in that way,
but just to try and sneak in when the first male breaks off to feed,
as sometimes happens, and the intruder will start having sex with the female.
But then if the first male finds out, the two of them will have a fight,
while both holding onto the female,
they'll kind of battered each other with their legs.
Oh, that's good.
So distracting.
What is going on back there?
So this isn't,
this actually isn't true of all stick insects.
It's true of a lot of them.
But there is a stick-in-set called extatosoma,
tiaratum.
And the females of that species
can reproduce without the need of males.
so they can like auto reproduce.
But no one seems to have told the males.
So the males find the females really attractive
and try to mate with them whenever it possible.
But the females have involved an anti-aphridisiac
to keep the males away.
And when eventually they manage to get past the anti-aphradisiac
and they mount them,
they can kick them with their back legs to get them off
because they just want to say,
no, no, we don't need you guys.
We can just have sex on our own.
And so I think this is actually very confusing
to evolutionary biologists because usually
asexual reproduction evolves because of a lack of males
and so, you know, a female will asexually reproduce
but really you want the male to be there because of diversity of genes.
But yeah, these stick insects are saying no, we actually way prefer it this way.
We'll just create clones of ourselves who are very easy to get along with.
Yeah, they back them off and it's this kind of conundrum like,
aren't they going to outlast males?
Are these male...
So I think it's the spiny leaf stick insects in Australia.
Will the males die out first, or will they evolve to manage to, I don't know,
like assault the women enough that they can still...
Because if the male manages to have sex with the female,
they produce both male and female offspring because they're fertilised.
And if it's just the female producing parthenogenesis,
then they only produce clones of themselves who are obviously all females.
So it's a real genuine battle of sexes.
Like utopia versus dystopia, kind of all-female.
world versus, yeah.
I wouldn't call that dystopia, rather.
Do you want to hear something cool about stick insects?
Yes, please.
So some of the eggs have this special capsule of the sort of fat and other good,
tasty stuff called a capitulum at one end of them.
And ants like eating the capitulum bit,
so they carry the eggs back to their nest,
and they eat the capitulum bit,
and then they throw the eggs onto a kind of rubbish heap
where they remain incubating.
and they can stay incubating for up to a year,
and then the baby's stick insects just hatch,
and then they walk out of the nest.
And I read that this was compared to paying a babysitter
to look after your eggs, to look after your offspring.
But it's not really, because I think that's the equivalent
of leaving your child abandoned,
but with a toblarin attached.
Someone who likes a toblerone will say,
oh, I love a toadone.
I'll just take this, and what's this on the table,
and this.
Parenting.
in the world
and you're at this
shook off to your own child
because the ants do eat
some of the eggs.
I mean, yeah, yeah,
they will eat thinking they're edible.
So yeah, it is saying
that this guy might eat you,
but if he doesn't,
then you might be okay.
I'm off.
I was, I was,
properly when I was researching
today, I was looking into
pictures of stick insects.
And something I think
that's not said enough is,
they're really weird, eh?
Like they're,
They look like...
They look like sticks.
Well, yeah.
They look like trees have become conscious
and we're just not acknowledging it.
It's just...
They do.
It just looks like a bit of stick has gone,
I'm alive.
Oh my God.
What is the world going on here?
And we've found probably an insect.
It's just an insect.
No, a tree has woken up.
That's a good point.
Like, if you had two stick insects
having sex for 79 days attached to each other,
how do you know it's not just two sticks?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. What have you been watering it the whole time?
And they're just like, we're trying to have sex here.
Who's this guy every day?
It is difficult for researchers to find stick insects because they're nocturnal and they pretend to be sticks.
And so it is quite hard to study them.
And you know, the best thing is a lot of stick insect eggs look like seeds.
How cool is that?
Whoa.
Extra camouflage.
That is smart.
It's not.
They are conscious.
trees, that's what's happened.
We're all dancing around it because
it's too mind-blowing for us to accept.
Oh, their children
look like seeds. They're fucking seeds.
Do you think that all
things that are camouflaged are actually
the thing that they're camouflaged against?
We're not camouflaged? Look at us. There's no
camouflage on us. And there's a stick
walking past me, and I bet you go,
oh, that makes sense.
But if you have like an Arctic
fox, which is camouflaged as snow,
you don't think, oh my God, snow is...
No, because it's a stick.
It's not like an iceberg walking past me.
I'm being going, oh, hi, iceberg.
I feel we might have hit a nerve here.
We've found a stick insect, which is 126 million years old.
Older than a lot of diamonds.
I think that's just a stick.
Do you know more about this?
You and I, let's talk.
All right.
No, well, the cool thing is about it is that we know that a lot of them imitate flowering plants.
And we know...
Flowing sticks.
And we know what plants it would have mimicked.
Because if its wings were folded, it would have looked like a stripy tongue.
And there were stripy tongue-looking plants around at the time.
And we know those in the fossil record.
And we know this.
And we can kind of imagine what it would have looked like.
Yeah, it's just so cool.
I think that's really cool.
And there are 3,000 species in the genus,
which includes stick insects and leaf insects, which is another kind of insect.
So this is one extraordinary.
insect, which was thought to have gone extinct on Lord Howe Island, which is in the South Pacific,
thought to have gone extinct in 1920. So it used to be known as the tree lobster, because it's
absolutely enormous. It's 12 centimetres long, on average.
I also heard that it was known as a walking sausage.
They can also imitate sausages.
Down's next fry-up is going to be...
I mean, I do a lot of stick work, but I also dabble in sausage stuff.
I wish that was the first time I'd have.
heard you say that.
We thought it disappeared
these giant insects in 1920
and very recently within the last
10 years so there were rumours that they
still existed on Bull's Pyramid
which is a pyramid that
juts out of the ocean very near to this
South Pacific Island and these
four Australians went to investigate these rumours
and see if this giant stick insects still existed
they climbed up this vertical rock face
and they found under one bush
these stick insects have been living for almost 100
years. They found 24 insects under one plant, one single plant. And we don't know how they got
there. People think they might have hitchhiked over on birds, which I quite like. Wow. Yeah.
And so now they really want to reintroduce them to Lord Howe Island. And the reason they went extinct
in the first place is because there was a rat infestation that we introduced. So now Lord Howe Islanders
are being faced with the choice between, would you like to keep your horrible rat infestation?
or would you like us to get rid of that in exchange for giant horrific looking stick insects
the size of your head?
I'm going to wrap us up very soon, so anyone else got anything?
I just, on the duration of copulation, there is a map of the US that's been compiled
because there's an app where you can report how long your sex lasts in America
and then there's a map of the US
which tells you which states have the longest sex.
Or which states are the biggest liars.
Well, I don't know if anyone's lying
because they are not long.
Refreshingly honest.
New Mexico wins.
Copulation lasts 7.01 minutes on average.
Alaska loses.
The average population is 1.21 minutes.
Yeah, but it's cold.
It's cold.
You want to get back inside.
don't you?
Hey, Al Fresco for some.
Thanks.
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