No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As A Teaspoon of Coal

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

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Hi everyone, just before we start this show, we've got an incredibly exciting announcement to make. It is so exciting, especially for people who like to watch live comedy podcast fact shows. What a great description of our show, James. It's like you've been rehearsing that for years. Yes, we are going on tour to do our comedy live podcast fact show. We are going all over the UK and Ireland, and we are then going to Australia. And then we are going to New Zealand. Indeed we are. When are we doing this? I hear you ask. Well, we are starting off going to Edinburgh to just perform the podcast in August. Yes, and then we will go to Bristol, Dublin, Glasgow, Newcastle, Cardiff, London, Manchester. We'll play all those places in the UK and Ireland.

And then we are going down and there in November. Is that your attempt to almost doing an Australian accent? I pulled out of it at the last second. I think that was a wise choice. We're going to go to Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland, Auckland. Wellington and Christchurch. But Anna, how do people get tickets? They can go to no such things of fish.com slash fish tour where you'll find links to any venue that you want to attend or why not come to all of them?

Why not? Indeed, I'll be at all of them. So will I. So do come along to the show. It's going to be so much fun. We can't wait to get back on tour. Come to those gigs. Come and say hi.

We'll see you there. Okay. On with the show. On with the podcast. Hello and welcome. Welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Hobern. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting here with James Harkin, Anna Tyshinsky and Andrew Hunter Murray. And once again, we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days.

And in a particular order, here we go. Starting with fact number one, that is Anna. My fact this week is that in 1974, thousands of swallows migrated over the Alps by train and plane. but not automobile. This is amazing, yes, it was 1974 and there was bad weather all over the Alps and this meant that insects were quite hard to find they were dying or not being born

and the swallows were getting really hungry and cold and this meant that they couldn't fly very well and bizarrely it was the police in Zurich who for some reason drew attention to this. This is a crime against nature. Well, exactly, yeah. Not too much crime in Zurich at the time, I guess. And so they said...

Quickly qualify that because it is a hot day. And so they said these swallows are having a bad time. And this thing was organised to fly them over the out. We'll take them by train. And Swiss air flew 10,000 of them. Oh, how interesting. You see, when you said the fact, I thought it was like just a normal swallow was flying along

and then jumped on a train. You know, like sometimes animals jump on trains. Like pigeons. Yeah. Oh, don't open this kind of one. I know. This was like a week we've gone there. It's a big argument.

Or on planes or something. But you're saying actual flights were put on. Yes, sorry. Because I can see, because swallows, I guess, fly in formation. So if one goes on a train, I guess they'd all follow onto the train. And that would just be a terrifying train journey for a lot of passengers. Yeah. But no, flights were put on.

Swiss air put on lots of flights. And then lots more. Thousands, in fact, were taken under the Alps or through a tunnel through the Alps. Where do they go to swallows? They were going to the Mediterranean to get a bit warmer. So they were flown to Nice, Marseille, Barcelona, they got the train. I want it. It's very nice.

It's a very heartwarming story. It's a lovely tale. And I learned it from a heartwarming place, which is a book that my mum got me years ago called The Little Book of the Dawn Chorus. It's made of cardboard, and it's about 10 pages long, and each page is a big picture of a bird, and then you press a button next to that picture,

and it makes the noise of that bird. Is it a children's book? Doesn't sound like a grown-out's book. I think children probably enjoy. it for the most part. Are you getting all of your facts these days from bedtime reading for your kid? You had good night moon. Oh yeah.

You had sweet packets. Good night moon was. Oh, yours was good night moon. Sorry. God, what was my sweet packets one? You said you found a fact on the side of a sweetie that you were. Oh my God. Your research has gone downhill a lot.

It's a bit ropey, isn't it actually? Yeah. You do get birds going by ship all around the world. Okay. And that is more in what I thought the fact was. In the flying along, they get a bit tired and they just sit up. a ship for a while. No.

And then they go in the ship for a bit and then they fly off again. That's clever. And we found out this because they put tracking signals on birds and they went, well, this one started going really slowly and exactly in the same direction as that tanker that we know goes in this direction. So funny. And so yeah, apparently it is quite common if you're, if you get injured a little bit or if you're flying along and you get to a bit of turbulence that you can't really fly through

very well, you might just drop down, go on a boat for a few days. I saw a video the other day of it was either a hawk or an eagle. It was giant and there's a guy who's gliding and then it just perches on his frame and just kind of like chills out for a second to get a break and then goes off again. It's the most insane footage. Do you think the hawk knows that it's like a glider or whatever? I don't know. Or do you think it thinks it's a really big bird?

Yeah. In which case, do hawks also land on really big birds? That was going to be my next question. Do they have resting stations on, like, yeah, a flock of birds? And there's a blue tit on the hawk and then a butterfly on the blue tit. I guess you do that kind of when you're flying in formation, right? Because you're directly behind someone and you're kind of hitching a lift a little bit on the guy in front. A bit, but if you did climb onto the back of the guy in front, I think he'd be annoyed.

There is a theory that would work, which is if you had flights, let's say from London to Zurich, there are 10 flights every day, whatever. If you were to get them all to go at the same time, then you could have them flying behind each other like geese or like swallows or whatever. And that would save us loads and loads of fuel. That's so cool. Oh, we're using the tailwind. Yeah, there's no turbulence. It's like a slipstream.

There's no air resistance. There's no air resistance. There's literally less air in the way. Yeah. And the only reason we don't do that is because people like Dan are scared of flying. Yeah, I'm not on for it. If the one in front breaks hard, then. I'm going in the back of it.

If you put those air brakes on. Yeah, exactly. But what if you just, what if we were, we arranged that all the sort of nervous people get to go in the front plane? So they're fine. Oh, what if one of them? Why did they get there first? Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, all right.

But those losers go at the back. See, this is why it's not happening. This is why because people can't get along. But apparently we have the technology. That's a good idea. It's a really good idea. You know what to leave at the same time. Yeah.

It's inconvenient. Sometimes you want to leave a different time an hour later. I think it's great at it. I think I might have mentioned this before. I would like it if, you know, when you're in, if you're sitting in traffic in a car, right, technically, as soon as the light goes green, it should be fine for everyone to jam on the accelerator to full, right? Yes. Because as everyone accelerates, the gaps also accelerate to the same way.

Yeah, yeah, but what about me reading my phone at the front? That's what's called a New York second. A New York second is the time between the lights going green and someone directly behind you, beeping you the second it goes green to get you to move. Am I the only person who, when I'm sat second in line, and the other person hasn't noticed, I don't beep. And I'm just like, you know what?

I'm not going to beep. I'm going to be a good citizen and I'm not going to honk. I'm going to let them notice by themselves. How long does that last? Until it goes red again. I'll just let them do it. I think you might be the only person.

Are you doing it if someone's behind you as well? Yeah. Usually the person behind me will beep. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what you're doing is you're saving yourself the effort of a beep because you know that the person behind you

will probably get around with it. I'm just following the highway code. You're not supposed to be. No, you're looking at your phone at the train. That's not what you're supposed to use your harm for. Tell people that lights have changed. No, that's true. It's only if there's an imminent threat to life, isn't it, that you're meant to...

To let someone know where you are as well. You are. You are letting them know where you are. You're saying, I'm here and I'm not happy about it. Birds. I really like ab migration. What's it? Ab migration.

Ab migration. It's basically when you're a bird and you're migrating from one place to another, but you accidentally join the wrong flock and you just follow them to wherever they're going and you end up in complete the wrong part of the world. Wow, so they don't realize there's not halfway through.

Not until they get there. Yeah, right. Oh, shit. There's no one like a shark here. Yeah, exactly. Does that really happen? It does happen, yeah. This is a very old fact, but I discovered it's not on our show,

so I'm just plopping it in our show because it's something we all know, but in France, if your pet snail gets a train, it needs its own ticket. It has to pay for a ticket. And it costs seven euro. Seven euros. Seven euro, which is a dog is 20.

You think that's cheap? Well, it depends where you're going to. If you're going all the way from, you know, niece to breast, seven euros is an absolute steal. But not for a snail. Well, how long's it going to take to walk? I guess. You're just so used to hearing about European trains being so cheap and amazing.

Well, that's striking. I mean, especially because if you've got a few snails, that'll rack up quite quickly. Well, what I'm confused about is one person is only allowed one animal per person. So I think you're only allowed your favourite snail to come. You must be able to claim it's a wild snail. If you just put the snail down next to you and say it's nothing to do with me. You get kicked off for fair evasion, then you've lost your favourite snail. He's like, Anna, Anna!

We've known each other for years! Honestly, it's a different Anna. James, sorry, I have to ask. when you just use the example of going from niece to breast, was it because in your head you were saying the words nice breast? Great question. Great question. That's what I've assumed. You've just got nice breast, nice breast going through your head at all times.

I can use this. Genuinely, I thought of what is the most southeasterly town and what is the most north-westerly town I could think of, and that was it. That is good. Yeah, very strong. I have a link. Yeah. Patricia Highsmith, the writer, or the talent of Mr. Ripley,

didn't she keep pet snails? And I think she would turn it. up places with them in a handbag and I think she would let them crawl around her. I think she hid some under her breasts when she was going from one country to another. So she didn't have to. Really? Her nice breasts. So there we go.

We've come full circle. There we are. By train. Birds and trains. Yeah. So Japanese trains. What's the first thing you think? Fast.

Shinkansen. Fast. Exactly. You've all said the right thing. Fast. On time. No, no. No.

Stop. I know more. I know more. Well. Well, fair enough. There was a problem with the bullet trains, right? They were very, they were fast. That was great.

But they were causing these sonic booms when they came out of tunnels because they pushed the air ahead and like a cork out of a bottle. The air just pops out really loud, hundreds of meters away. It was so loud. It was like miserable to live anywhere near these trains. And they were on overhead wires as well. And then the chief engineer who was called Aegee Nakatsu. He was interested in owls and how owls move quietly

because owls have these little structures on their feathers called fimbrii. They make like vortices and stuff. Exactly. They break down the air into sort of micro-turbulances. And he said to his team, this is the future. And every Japanese train has an owl strapped to the front. That's right. It's very cruel. And instead of a horn, they go, whoo.

So there are these wing graft put on the trains. And then to deal with the train coming out of the tunnel and having the sort of cork-popping sonic boom effect, he looked to kingfishers because they dive into the water with no splash. If you've ever seen really slow image, video of Kingfisher just diving in, no ripple. So he changed the body shape of the front of the train,

and they are quieter, and they have less air resistance, they use less energy, they cost less, they use less fuel. You know what birds also do, fly. So he could have put wings on it. Yeah. And it all came from that? Very cool. Bullet trains are based on birds.

Basically birds. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. In China, they have a tunnel that they're building at the moment for trains. It's 12 meters across this tunnel. But due to the movement of the Earth's crust, it's shrinking. And it's currently now less than three meters across.

What? Because the Earth's plates are squishing it together. Oh, no. Isn't that amazing? That's incredible. Hang on. And this is a train tunnel that was built 12 meters across. They're currently in the middle.

of building it was supposed to be ready to go in like next year, but they keep going back and it's smaller again. How many of the music? You think you were on punk to something. You were like, what is going on? This was massive yesterday. Are they going to have to make the train one of those very small novelty of steam trains? Everybody off the big train.

Isn't that weird? That's so good. They put loads of concrete supports in. They just got smashed. Because it's the earth tectonic plates. But are they moving that one? I didn't know bits of Earth were moving that fast. Well, let me introduce you to earthquakes.

Nice to meet you. But this is, yeah, I mean, there are some parts of the Earth that are moving. I mean, this is not like moving, you can't see it moving. And they're still sticking with it? They're not just going to do at the moment is they're just going to wait and hopefully it's going to stop moving soon and then they're going to be able to build it. Wow. Just put it nearby.

What a plan. All they need to do is wait long enough and then the movement will go so much that the tunnel will start making itself. It will reverse, exactly, and it'll start getting bigger again, because all the concrete will have gone through to the other side. Do you sort of mean? That makes no more sense with the accompanying hand gestures that we can see than it does

to the listener. Okay, fine, fine. You know, the Snowden Mountain Railway, so for a broad listener, there's Snowdonia is the highest mountain in Wales, and it has a train going up it, which is kind of famous because it's a way you can cheat to get to the top. But did you guys know that it was built in the 1890s

And its very first trip, all the trains on it crashed. And I had to close immediately for a year. For a year. Yeah, 1896. So there were two trains that went on this inaugural journey. They got to the top of Snowden. One was released to go down. They completely lost control.

The engine of it derailed. And the driver and the guy who was spooning coal into it or whatever. Both leapt off it. Shuffling? Spooning coal. We can't get the power. It's so weird. Use the dessert spoon.

Stop with a teaspoon. Oh, I thought differently. I thought, whether the conductor is in bed with coal. Stop hugging that coal and get out here. Yeah, look if I don't work in the rail industry. Stoking. Stoking. The stoker and the driver both threw themselves off the engine

just as it flew over a cliff and hull down onto the ground below, many a few hundred meters. And then the carriage is careering down on its own, the rail. So all these passengers are on the carriage. But ahead, there's a push. There's a points, and there are five people strapped to the track. There was actually, there was one death, because there was one guy on the carriage who saw the driver and Stoker leap off the engine. So a guy in a carriage thought, well, I better do that as well.

So he just threw himself out of the carriage and sadly plummeted to his death. Whereas the rest of the carriages eventually slowed down. Once they entered a tunnel, which gradually grew closer, grinding them to a horse. Okay, it is time for fact number two, and that is Andy. My fact is that in 1827, a shop opened in Cincinnati where the principal currency was time itself. I'm just remembering we only let you do this fact, didn't we? Because we knew you would do that.

Yeah, and you did. It's a good fact as well. Thank you. This is a place called the Cincinnati Times Store, and it was created by a guy called Josiah Warren, who was a utopian and a socialist and he would now be described as an anarchist but I don't think the phrase really existed at the time

basically his idea was I'm going to sell things for what they cost me and the only thing I'm going to add to the price is the value of the time I've spent on this stuff so he claimed basically labor was the only true currency if you like So it's like the time of people coming into the shop and deciding what to get

the time of him wrapping it up the time of him weighing stuff the time of him bringing stuff from the back room into the front light, all that kind of stuff. All of that. And it involves quite a lot of calculation. And also, I love this. The longer he spent with the customer, the more it would cost the customer because his time was worth money. So if I'm behind that customer that's taking so much time, do I have to pay less? Yeah, they haven't noticed. You're in your car. Do you honk your horn, even though it's costing? I think he had a timer dial so that as you stayed in the shop for ages saying, oh, I don't know if I want. the big one of the small one. Yeah.

It sort of notch up because this is his time. It actually seems more aggressive, even though it's a utopian, cheapening thing. But he said that it went through so many customers in such a quick amount of time that he could shut the shop halfway through the day because he'd done basically the full day's worth of money

that he needed to earn. Yeah. Which is pretty nice. You can't do that with a shop. What if I want to get to the shop at 3.30 and they've just closed at midday because they've gone, we've had enough customers for the day.

We'll go to like a square capitalist shop and not to the utopian anarchist. Fine. He was also, and I don't think this is how he'd like to be characterized, but he was just like a modern-day lawyer in the sense of time, wasn't he? Yeah. Because that's what you get with lawyers. The more time you spend with them, the more they charge. You're having... And sex workers. And sex workers, so you've got to rush through both, haven't you? I assume.

Never used a lawyer, so I'm not sure if it's the same. For the first few days when he opened it, he didn't have a single customer. Really? Yeah. And he asked his brother, George, to come and make some purchase. for his family. And then George came and told his friends. And then George's friends came. And then in the first week he'd made $5 worth of sales.

Is that a lot? It was in the 1820s. Even in those days, it wasn't enough to live off. But it took off relatively quickly after that. There was a guy who had another shop around the corner who kind of came in and said, you're putting me out of business, mate. Yeah. Oh, really?

Yeah. And he said, well, maybe you could show me how to do it. And Josiah Warren sort of said, okay, well, This is what I'm doing. Can the guy copied his system? I think the idea is that time also has a slightly variable value. So nobody profits from anyone else's labour is the idea. You don't get to just add a huge whack to the amount of time you spend on something

because the time is the currency. But also, if a job is harder or more disgusting, I think it would be worth more time. So, for example, I love making the show. So probably, you know, an hour and a half recording, I will actually only get paid half an hour of time because it's so much fun to do. But responding to the emails that people send in, how much would you? Quintuple. Yeah, I'll make it back.

That's why I get paid five times as much as you, isn't it, Andy? I hate making this show. So two hours recording, as you get paid. Do you know why that was the case? Because actually, this idea was not new. But the reason that he had different amounts for different people is because he'd previously been in another utopia called New Harmony. And at New Harmony, that had failed because anyone who was good at, like, building houses

just decided, wait a minute, I'm getting paid the same as the people who are doing something which isn't skillful at all. And actually it all fell apart because of that. And so he decided that his new utopias and new ideas were going to be slightly different and have a slightly different thing where different skills paid different amounts. So he took over this small little town called modern times. The place is called modern times. It's a word. It's a name. They had like 150 people who signed up to the idea of living in this utopia.

So that started off a bit dodgily because he had this big group of people who were all utopians. And then one of them began to advocate for plurality of wives. Another one believed that clothing was a superfluity. So he didn't have to wear any clothes. And there was another one who thought that actually you shouldn't really eat properly. You should just eat beans and nothing else. Oh, no. And yeah, it was basically attracted all these people who had all these different ideas outside of the mainstream.

And at the very start, it went really badly and the newspapers were saying this is going to be a disaster. But it did prosper in the end. Did it? Even though it sounds like a load of farty, naked, sleazy men. They got rid of the farty ones and the sleazy ones. Okay. And the other dwarfs. And then in the end, it did falter,

but it was because there was a huge panic in the mid-19th century and then the Civil War. And then that was where it fell apart. Yeah. But it did, like, a core. According to their press, you know, it went for 13 years solidly. They didn't have government. They didn't have law, no police.

But they didn't have any reported crime or violence. Well, if you've got no law, you're not going to have any reported crime. That's just from supposedly the people. A naked man stole my third wife. Josiah Warren also invented a lamp. Time lamp. Just a non-time lamp. It burned over time.

But again, it had a utopian idea at its cost. which was to save people money, so it was made of lard instead of tallow and it burned much more efficiently. But the good thing about this lamp is that the patent for it was destroyed in a fire at the patent factory in 1836. That's very funny. Isn't that true of like the fire extinguisher? That's correct. It's the same fire. It was the same fire.

Well, it was this huge. It was an incredibly famous fire. And there are these things called the X patents, which are the first 10,000 patents. And I know I should be saying patents. sorry, but the first 10,000 patents ever issued and they were all destroyed in this fire, this massive fire at the US Patent Office. It feels like there's a good plot for a movie

or something in there where they're rediscovered actually that we'd made copies. Yeah. And all these new technologies turn up. Yeah. The ex-patent man. Yeah, that's quite good. That's excellent.

He made a newspaper as well, Warren, in 1833, so a few years after the shop, for which he built his own printing press and cast all the type himself. He does seem to have been very practical, practically minded. He also invented a new kind of music. Did he? What was that?

Rapp. Gangster rap. No, it was called mathematical notation. Okay. And it was a way of using maths as opposed to using Dorei Mifar Sol Atido. Okay. Using numbers.

How interesting. He's described as an anarchist, and my impression of an anarchist is very different to what it sounds like he was. What do you think of an anarchist? I guess an anarchist would be someone who's raising hell. Like suffragettes were being anarchists when they were bombing places. That's a metaphorical anarchist.

Yeah, right. An anarchist would be just someone who doesn't believe there should be any leaders in society. Suffragette is very much not anarchist because they wanted to actively get into the role of electing leaders. Yeah, right. It's very weird. So anarchism is because, yeah, everyone calls for an anarchist, is this big school of thought, exactly as James says, it's not, we don't want leaders, no sort of state structures, people doing things for themselves and their neighbours is the basic idea behind it.

But also, there is a kind of extreme end of it in the 1890s. It was a big worry across Europe, the anarchists, you know, who were mostly, basically young men throwing these kind of like classic bombs, you know, which sort of big back black ball. Cherry bombs. Yeah, with bomb written on the side and with a few sticking out of it. And, you know, throwing them at sort of elected leaders or royals across Europe. Wiley Coyote. Yeah, yeah, it is like that.

But it was a genuine fear because that was the sort of. of extreme end of anarchism. But President William McKinley, one of the four presidents assassinated, shot by an anarchist. Oh, yeah. And his assassin was a guy called Leon Chogosh, who was, this is very dark, this. He was tried and executed. And then his body was destroyed by acid so that fellow anarchists wouldn't have a body to venerate or to turn into a martyr.

So they literally poured acid into the coffin. Wow. Put it in the coffin, clothes coffin up, pour acid in, and then burned all his clothes and possessions after that. Wow. I know. Don't do that again. Yeah.

And then we get the sex pistols. It kind of calms down the world of anarchy, doesn't it? Yeah. If you can buy a t-shirt of it, it's not as anarchic. I was looking into the idea of swapping money for time and seeing if that's been used anywhere else. And I found an example, which is something that's been trialed in 2019 in Estonia. They've had a huge problem with speeding drivers.

So people are speeding, they're getting tickets, and then they are. just paying the fine because they can afford to do it. And so in Estonia, they thought, instead of giving them a fine, what if anyone who's caught speeding has to do a 45 to 60 minute timeout? And now they're really late to where they need to go. They have no choice but to do this. 57% of people actually said they preferred the idea of having the time out. So the biggest problem they have is...

Meanwhile, James has pulled in behind the guy who's been stopped speeding. He doesn't mind. He doesn't mind at all. I don't wait. How are you policing that? This is what they're trying to work out because it takes a lot of people to have to sit there for an hour. It's not practical, but it's a great idea

because no matter how rich you are, time is time, you can't get past that. It's not practical, guys. Well, what you could do is you could put some clamps on the car and so they can't go anywhere and then come back an hour later and take it off. But most speed is called by cameras, aren't they? Maybe out of every camera could drop a sort of big net that catches the car. Yeah, that's much more practical and a...

Yes. I'm cracked it. And hiring some unemployed people to do it. do the same work. Kind of like detention for grown-ups, basically. I have a related fact because it's about Estonia. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I was in Estonia relatively recently, last year in Tallinn,

and I went to the museum of banned books. Oh, cool. Yeah. So it's a museum, but it's also a shop. You can buy books that have been banned from around the world. And I asked for one particular book, and they had it hidden behind the desk, as it wasn't on display. Can you guess what the book is? So they had every bandbook from around the world

and I said, oh, do you have this one? And they went, we do, but it's behind the desk. We're not allowed to put it on display. Oh, we're not putting it on display. Is it a famous book? Will we definitely have heard of it? It's famous, but whether you've heard of it, I don't know. I mean, it's very on topic from what we're talking about.

Oh, okay. So a time-related thing maybe. Or an anarchist's book? The anarchist cookbook. Correct. Oh! The anarchist cookbook is in the museum of bandbook. but isn't on display.

Why not? Because it's so dangerous. What is it? It's a way of making bombs. Oh, yeah. Basically. Also, making illicit drugs. Ways of freaking telecommunication devices.

Wow. This was written by a guy called Powell, whose first name I can't remember. But anyway, he reneged on it when he got older. It was published in 1971, and by 1976, he converted to Anglicanism and tried to get his book taken. from circulation. And in 2011, he and his wife, Ochen Kassuma Powell, founded a thing called Next Frontier Inclusion,

which was a non-profit organization for children with learning disabilities. But he did that in a way to atone for this book that he'd written, which he can't control because he doesn't own the copyright to it anymore. It's out there and that's it. Did he do an anarchist thing with the copyright or something? Or did it just got out there and it's been replicated? No, it was the amount of time it just sort of went to the publisher. Silly boy.

Think before you publish. I really thought you were going to say the book that you couldn't access James was Tintin and the Soviets. Oh, that is true. Like, I went to the Tintin shop in London and they wouldn't, they would sell it me, but again, it was not on display. You have a knack of finding things behind the counter. It's interesting. You can work out what will most freak out any shopkeeper. But that they will own, you know.

But they will own. I was just looking at money, times when money's been abolished. Do you know the only country to abolish money? Oh, I'm going to say Bhutan. Oh, I have some boot to these coins. Okay, I'd like to change my choice to, let's say a communist one. Yeah. Cuba.

No. Angola. You've got the right, and he's got the right first letter. It's definitely less utopian than Bhutan. Columbia. Well, it's, I'm just going to tell you. Same number of syllables. It begins with C.

Yeah. Begins of C. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. It's, yep, same number of syllables, four syllables. syllables. Cambodia.

Very good. Under the Kamez was it? Cambodia, under the Kamez, Pol Pot, who decided to ban money in 1975 when he came into power and within three weeks there was a new currency. But then he decided he didn't want the new currency. So he blew up the central bank. I mean, obviously he did some absolutely appalling things alongside this.

But yeah, blew up the central bank and money flooded through the streets. And people were using it because Cambodia was. in a terrible state by that point because of them were burning money for fire and warmth because it didn't exist. When I was in Cambodia, which admittedly was quite a while ago, you would really just buy stuff in dollars.

Yeah, same, yeah. Do you know the commonest denomination of US dollars? One dollar, it must be one dollar. Used to be. In 2016 it was replaced. It's now the second most common. I'm going to go all the other way, the thousand dollar.

I'm going to go in the middle. The $7. Okay. and you've gone too far into the realms of unreality. So 100, it's got to be a hundred. It's a hundred. It's a hundred dollar banknote. Isn't that insane? A hundred dollar bills make up almost 80% of the value of dollars worldwide

and they are now the most commonly circulated bill and it's almost all held outside of the US. It's a lot of crime though, isn't it? It's a lot of fraudsters and drug money because it's large amounts of value in a relatively small. Still counts. It's finicky to do that in one dollar bills if you're paying for it. Yeah.

Like 800 kilos of cocaine and you're at the counter and the guy in front of you is paying him once. It's annoying. James just sitting there happily. You take your time, buddy. I'm going to be buying the stuff he has behind the counter. Okay, it is time for fact number three. That is James. Okay, my fact this week is that the 2023 Nobel Prize for Chemistry was won for discovering something

that has been used in stained glass window making for a thousand. years. Glass. It was. Discovered glass. We didn't know where it came from before. No, no one knew what glass was. Amazing.

And then they were like, oh, it's in all those windows as well. No, it wasn't that. It was quantum dots. It was won by Maungi G. Bowendi, Lewis E. Bruce and Alexei I. Ekemov. And they discovered quantum dots, which are tiny, tiny particles. You fire light.

light into them, and depending on their size, they re-emit light of a different colour. It's all due to this thing we call science. Tell me about that. And quantum science at that. We don't need to really go into all that stuff today. But scientists have looked at glass back from the 10th century and found tiny bits of gold, tiny bits of silver, and they act in the same way that quantum dots act. When the sunlight comes in, they enhance the red light and enhance the yellow light.

And it's the size of the... It's the size of the particle. It's the part of it. There are a few nanometers across. And the bigger ones emit a different color when light is fired at them than the smaller ones is basically... It took quite a long time for me to understand it. But there was a really good explanation in the article you sent James by the American Chemical Society's president, Judith G-I-R-R-I-R-I-R-R-I-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-Nancing. Yeah, it's more difficult than the quantum mechanic.

Judith Jordan. And she says, to think of it like a little box. So basically the particle is the box, and you have the electrons bashing off the sides of the walls of the box on the inside. But when you've got a big box, it's going to take longer for the electrons to bash into the size.

When the particle is shrunk down, the electrons are bashing quicker and quicker, and that's where it's emitting the different colour, basically. So it's to do with the size of the box and the electrons smashing into the sides. It is hard. It's hard to understand. The thing is they glow. They're very exciting because they glow,

and they're very colourful, and the reason they've won the Nobel Prize is because they basically made television a bit better. As far as I can tell. Well, I'm going to have cool quantum tellies. Q LEDs. Q LEDs. And it's the same principle as a normal LED TV,

which is that light is shone from behind onto the dots. They glow in different colours. And you're watching your show and you don't really need to think about it. But like if you think about an old computer screen or something, you could only really get like blue and yellow and magenta. Like a printer. You only get those colours. and to make any other colour

you have to mix them up in different amounts and you will be able to get a certain number of colours but these Q LEDs can show you way more colours more colours than you can possibly imagine like teal wow I can't imagine yeah and morph

puce and we should just say in defence of the Nobel Prize winning scientists that they are used for other things as well they're going to hopefully revolutionise the world of medicine because you're going to be able to spot the colours on the inside of the body. So they're going to be used for diagnosing certain bits of the body. What? What do you mean? I don't know if you've explained that the right way.

Spot the colours on the inside of the body. Do you mean send markers into the body that can identify tumors by gliding a certain color? You've got a green liver. You've got an orange pancreas. Is that good? It's to leave to highlight spots where you need to monitor and make sure that things. And that's the opening application of it. Just on nanotechnology and medicine.

And this is another cool use of nanotech. This is nanoshells. So these are hollow gold or silver spheres wrapped around silica. So I think they are hollow, but they're sort of two layers, like a Ferrero Roche, but small,

but so small that you could eat lots and it wouldn't matter. So if you fire light at these nanoshells, they heat up massively, because they're made of gold and silver, right? So the idea is, if you have someone who's got cancer, you can inject the tumour with these nanoshells,

then you fire infrared light. Now, the light passes through the water in your cells because the water in your cells doesn't absorb much of infrared light. These nanoshells absorb huge amounts of infrared light. They heat up massively and it kills the tumor off. Oh, wow. So if you can... Yeah, and they're experimenting at the moment on raw chicken.

But the hope is that it'll make the leap from raw chicken to people. It's a really clever idea. Are they basically cooking chicken by putting these nanodots inside it? Effectively. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's clever. Very cool.

That's really good. It's a good idea. Quicker cooking and better tellies. When Ekimov first came up with the idea of quantum dots, he was working at the Vaviliov State Optical Institute in Soviet Russia. And he had got these special glass objects, semiconductor glass objects, known as shot glasses. Wee. Sorry. Isn't that cool?

They were known as shot glasses and there were lots of different colours. And he developed the theories to explain their colour. And the interesting thing about those shot glasses is they were made by a company founded by Otto Schott. Okay. And that company still exists. And they made 90% of the first one billion COVID vaccine bottles. Wow. So 90% of the first billion COVID vaccines were delivered in shot glasses.

Lovely. That's really cool. That's great. That's so funny. Ekamov, who you mentioned, is he said he was in Soviet Union in 1981 when he became, in fact, the first person, I think, to generate these quantum dots to identify them and learn how to generate them. But it's just one of those amazing things.

It's so weird how often you read about this, I guess, when we do what we do, but things happening simultaneously. It just shows how predictable a path humans are on, I think, because is it Bruce? Do you pronounce it? Do you know? That's how I pronounced it. Cool. It could be brew.

Brew. Okay. Fancy a brew? Fancy a brew in your shot glass. Is that Scottish? Scouse, I think. I don't know. At exactly the same time in America, Louis Bruce was working on the similar thing and he came up with it pretty much a year later, I think. And the interesting thing was I hadn't realized that the Soviet Union,

if you did science there at the time, it basically didn't get anywhere because you had to publish it in extremely obscure journals that no Western scientists were really reading because it was all thought it was a bit backwards. And in Russian as well. And in Russian, which, you know, a lot of us can't read. And so Bruce, a year or two later, read this thing in a journal

and good on him, he read it and was like, oh, that guy's done the thing I did a bit before me so got in touch with him, wrote him a letter to say, should we hook up? What? Then they had a beautiful romance blossom. Amungi Bawedi, who was the third person who won this Nobel Prize,

failed his first chemistry test at Harvard. And he was specifically the chemist who came on board to sort of make what the other two had discovered become practically applicable. And yeah, he did a speech recently saying he failed the chemistry test and actually got the worst grade in his whole class. And said that could have destroyed me, but I decided that it wouldn't. And it was a trick.

I decided that it wouldn't. I decided. And that's the lesson. Good luck, guys. There was like there's a book about archery about the best way to be an archer, like a really old one. And the first line is, first decide to succeed. Wow. That's so good.

That's awesome. I really like that these three winners, by the way, they all advanced it in a slightly different way, each brought something new to it. And I do like that the Nobel Prize system works like that, that it's not just the person who's found the application to the thing, it's the person who identified it. It's like giving a goal score in football,

not only to the person who's kicked or headed the ball in, but to the assist. And then even to someone who passed it to the assist. Well, the whole team gets that goal. It actually football does work like that because... Those are not given to individual players You're schooling me on football But increasingly you do find out who the assist was for every goal

Yeah And when you say Yeah, you always do When they talk about let's say You know Mbapé's done whatever he's done this season They'll say he's got this many goals and this many assists And they will mention it each time And I think it kind of began from fantasy football

Because you get points to how many goals your player scored But they wanted to give points to the people who were creating the goals And they get into them as well Really? Really? I've forgotten that it wasn't always like that. Definitely not, yeah. The Nobel Prize of Medicine

this year, or last year in 2023, was given to Catalin Caracour and Drew Weissman for some mRNA vaccine stuff for COVID. But they had their initial manuscript rejected by nature and by science.

No way. And they were rejected by nature. Do you mean by the journals, nature and science? Also, God and man have rejected. You're one. work. Yeah.

So Nature, the journal, rejected it within 24 hours. And so they didn't even send it to any reviewers or whatever. They just got the letter through the post and went, this is shit. Really? Yeah. What did he say it was for?

It was for MRNA? It was for developing more effective MRNA vaccines against COVID-19. I just, I really worry about sort of Trump listening to this and go, see, I told you, nature and science agree with me. But what it was is that they didn't think that it was a, big enough advancement. They thought they were just kind of repeating old, you know, things that people had already said, but actually later on they realized that it was actually a big, big advancement. The 2023 Nobel Prize for Physics, which was won by Pierre Augustini, Ferensh Krauss,

and Anne Wilié is a way of measuring things with ato second pulses of light. An attosecond is even shorter than a nanosecond. It's extremely, extremely short. short amount of time. In fact, it's one quintillionth of a second. And if you wanted to have a quick meeting with every insect on earth, but had to complete all the meetings in one second, then each insect would get an ato second of your time. Food for thought. And they managed to make these pulses of light, each one, an ato second in length. And that means that if you think about a movie has however many frames per second, if you can make one every, every at a second, then suddenly you can see things that are happening almost instantaneously.

I just find that when I'm watching films, and I don't mean to denigrate these people, but I find the colour's fine and the speed at which I see things happening is fine. You're still confused about the plot 10 minutes in, it doesn't matter. Sorry, I should say that these Atos Second stuff will not be used to film the next born identity. No, no, no. It means that you can see like photosynthesis happening in real time. Hang on, are you saying it also won't be used to give lots of insects performance reviews. What is the point then?

I don't need to see photosynthesis happening in real time. I'm sure it's really useful. Well, Anlié said that basic research is very important because you never know what applications will be found in 50 years' time. We don't know what they'll be, but something, this kind of technology will change our lives, but we don't know how yet.

We'll be kicking ourselves when the ninth born film is filmed using this method and you can see him punch the guy as it happens rather than slightly after it happens. But can we address the heat of debate on nano. Oh, great. Yeah. So this is nanotechnology.

This is all sort of written in the birth of nanotechnology. How do you spell it? N-A-N-O. N-A-N-O. Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I'm really into this etymology. Sometimes no and sometimes, nah. So it first appeared in biology as nano with a double N-1909.

This is niche stuff. That's right. I've never seen it spelled with double N. N-A-N-O? Yes. Or N-A-N-O. No. I think you know the answer to that question.

All right. So the reason you haven't seen it is because it was used in zoology. And it was in biology, it is used with a double-N. It's much rarer in biology. And it just meant very small. And it's because nano, in Greek, meant dwarf. So nanobacteria, nanoplankton. It just became a tiny thing to mean tiny.

And physics took it on. But there's a rule in physics, which I didn't know about, which is very neat. but very exciting, which is that if something is a multiple of something, so let's say you've got a metre, if you're saying a thousand metres, what's that? Kilometer.

A kilometre. And that you use the Greek. So kilometre, kilo is from Greek. If it's a sub-multipal, a factor, like a thousandth of a metre, what do we say? Millie. Because if it's a sub-multable, exactly, we use the Latin.

What? So they shouldn't have used the double N in nano because that was the Greek Whereas the Latin for dwarf uses a single Nannus And so the physicists Who were adhering to convention Changed it to a single N

Aren't you delighted You know that? No other podcast is blowing shit Why don't open like this? Anna, I'm so sorry I actually heard that fact on shagged married annoyed last week But it was shagged married anoid

With only one N Because That'll be my spin-off. Shagmarried Anode, the Batteries Podcast. Yeah. Beautiful, that's your spin-off. There we go. Shag-married adidoid, which is mine about my sinus problems.

Shag-married anodyne for Dern. Oh, no, that's me. You're lucky, I don't know what that word means. It's another word for wife guy. That's it. Shag-married, really happy. Love my wife. Make love, marry it

Marry, then make love. Okay, it is time for a final fact of the show and that is my fact. My fact this week is that right at the southernmost point of Sweden, you will find a statue of Uma Thurman's naked granny. I'm going to say, as a guess, that it will not be her when she will. was a granny. It might have been her in earlier life.

Yeah. You would say that in the correct way, yes. I'm like that. Yeah, she was a model. Her grandmother was a model called Beguet Holmquist and the sculptor who wanted to make the statue hired her as a model and it's positioned right on this little seaside port in this town which is called Smiga Hook outside of... Trelborgs. Outside a Trellaborg. Does it mark, basically, if you go past the new granny statue, you are leaving Sweden. No, I don't, I'm not sure it's a nice statue. It's a beautiful statue, you know.

Is it full, full naked? She has, yeah. No fig leaf for anything. Nope. Good on it. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, wow. Do we know anything else about this woman?

Are there statues all over the world of her? Or was she just that and then gone? No, I mean, you know, she was a model, but really the Furman family, like they're all so, I reckon it started with these guys. Yeah. So she was a great Swedish beauty, but not from like a extremely rich family or anything like that. But she married a Westphalian baron called Carl von Schlebrugge.

Lovely. And Carl von Schlebrugge had a monical. He was a baron. Of course he did. He was briefly jailed by the Nazis for refusing to denounce his business partners who were Jewish. And Bridget used her Swedish nationality to kind of say, oh, look, he's Swedish as well. He needs to come out. He needs to come out.

And they managed to get him out of prison. And then they moved off to, I think they went to Mexico or China or something like that, away from the war. And yeah, that was basically the start of the dynasty. Basically, they fled Nazi Germany at what is now clearly the most socially acceptable time to have done that, which is in the 1930s rather than in 1945 halfway through. I moved to Central South America at the, yeah, yeah, exactly. You've got to specify, don't you? Oh, I moved to South America from Nazi Germany.

when? Because actually there was another German living in Mexico at the same time with a very, very similar name who was a Nazi spy. And some people on the internet think it's the same person, I'm pretty sure it isn't the same person. Von Schlebrugger's.

I'm also pretty sure the Mexico isn't South America, by the way, in case someone complains about the same. It's Central America, Great point. North America. What? The what's Canada? Sorry, great point, great point. Great point. Great point.

Sorry. Do we have listeners in Mexico? I don't know. I don't think I've ever had an email from anyone in Mexico. Okay. If you're in Mexico, yeah, right in. Right in, please. So, okay, that's the Schlebrugger's mom.

Yeah. And then Umma Thurmond's mom, so their daughter was Nina von Schlebrugger. And she was also a model because she was very good looking. Monical jeans. Monocle jeans. And she was a model in Manhattan. And she modeled for Dali, Salvador Dali, I think. Yeah.

But yeah, she was very... Wow, wasn't she? She, as in the life that she led and the names that come up. So before she married her husband that would lead to Uma and her brothers, she was married very briefly to Timothy Leary, who she was introduced to by Salvador Dali. So Timothy Leary, for those who don't know him, he led the big push for psychedelics and LSD

and counterculture in America in the 60s. Briefly was correct. Yeah. They were married very briefly. They separated during the honeymoon. No. Did they? Yeah.

Uh-oh. Leary said, we had time-traveled through a few mythic incarnations, played out magical dramas in panoramic realms. Now he would have to rise to that most complex human art, gentle separation. Right. Yes, I'd leave him too, actually. That's how he's describing. And she met her then next husband, Uma's dad, while she was at a house trying to get Leary to sign the divorce papers. So he was there for other reasons trying to get Leary to do something.

Well, I read that Robert Thurman, who was. Umma Thurma's dad, obviously, was only present at that house where Nina was trying to persuade him to sign the papers. He was there trying to stop Leary taking so many drugs. How did that go? I don't know. Not very well. That's funny. Leary's the guy who coined the phrase, tune in, turn on, drop out.

Yeah. So he's a big counterculture guy. But then Robert Thurman is even more interesting than Timothy Leary. He's kind of an Indiana Jones style scholar of Buddhism. And he's very cool. He seems to be one of the people who made Buddhism. cool in the 20th century really, kind of one of the leading popularizers of it in the US. So he seemed to have a revelation in 1961 when he was changing a flat tire and he said the

tire iron flicked up into his eye and he went into a coma for three days. So I must have flicked up quite hard. He woke up and he'd lost an eye. But as he says, he lost one eye but gained a thousand more as he put it. And that's when he gave up... That's a botch surgery, isn't it? Yeah. I think the surgeon was on LSD at the time.

Dr. Leary, not you. He was a bit of a playboy and he gave up his whole playboy lifestyle. Hitchhiked to India and thought, I really want to become a Buddhist monk. That's kind of what the Buddha did, though. The Buddha was a sort of playboy prince, wasn't he? Yeah, that's true. But Furman supposedly became the first American to become officially a Buddhist monk. monk, like to be recognized as why.

Yeah. Do you know how long he lasted? How long? I think less than a year. Oh, God. He met this llama. So he flew back from India to America, met this llama. I was like, I've been in India and I'm desperate to become a Buddhist monk.

I'm going to be amazing at it. The llama kept saying, I'm looking at your karma and you don't have monk in you. I promise. You've got great things destined. You haven't got Lama Karma? Yeah, I haven't got Lama Karma. That's what he said. Right.

But Robert kept on saying, no, I really want to do it. So eventually the llama took him to meet the Dalai Lama, the big Lama. Yeah. As he's otherwise known. Boss Lama. Yeah, boss level. Who did ordain him as a monk. And literally within 18 months, he resigned.

Why? The monk lifestyle he decided wasn't for him. He's still leading. He's still leading the movement. The Dalai Lama was very like, yeah, cool, good move, mate. They're best mates. Yes. He and the Dalai Lama are very close.

And he's the president of Tibet House, US, which is the main Tibetan organization in the USA. So they have a bet with each other to see if they can both live until the year 2048. Oh, it's getting closer. Do you know how old that would make them both? Because I think Robert Thurman is in his 80s. Is he? One of them will be 107, I think, maybe Thurman. That's all right.

Is it what happened, they said, are you going to live until this date? And he said, yeah. And he said, want to bet. He said, yes, I do. And then Xi Jinping said, well, tough. That is too good. Umma Thurban sounds like the least interesting member of her own family I presume she was a relatively interesting person

But all these antecedents are so interesting Yeah they're awesome So James just on the topic of Uma Thurman You have been watching Her entire Her entire output of movies I've started Yeah

But I only started two days ago So I've watched Kill Bill 1 and Kill Bill 2 Has any of you seen even Cowgirls get the blues? No Oh I think that's I mean it's based on an amazing book But have you read it?

I have it at home It's the kind of book you would have read, actually. Yeah, Tom Robbins. Yeah, very good, very good. No, it's apparently in a very bad film. Okay. But I just love the concept. It's just about a woman with unusually long thumbs.

Really? What's it called? It's called Even Cowgirls get the Blues. And it's a numotherman film, sorry. It's a numidmer film. She plays this girl with very long thumbs. That's interesting. She doesn't have long thumbs in real life, I don't think.

So I think she might have had to wear prosthetic thumbs. No, she doesn't have? She has got massive feet? That's why she's in all of, what's his name? Who does those? Tarantino. Tarantino. Yeah, because he likes feet, doesn't he?

Does he? Because there's lots of shots of her feet in these two movies, I can say that. She has size 11 feet and that's American. What's that in old money? 12, I don't know, 10? Yeah, it's one either side. Yeah, it's one other side. Well, that's big either way.

I don't know if it's not. That's very big either way. She can't have size 12 feet. No, it's got to be 10. But 10 would be very big. It's still a good fact. You don't need to write it and tell us, by the way. We will have been able to Google the conversions after you know.

Oh, no. Do not write in. Please, God, don't waste your time. I don't want to wake up to 15 emails about all subject line, Umatham and feet picks. I don't want that. If you are in Mexico, then tell us what size 10 is in your country. And also, which America are you really in? Oh, dear. Do you want to hear about another very attractive Swedish woman

who was turned into a statue? Okay, okay. Not turned into, the model. Can we guess? Absolutely not. Bridget Bardot. No, she's not a famous one. Orrika Johnson. She's still quite famous, I'd say.

Oh, yeah. You're like not being listened to, Andy. No, no, no, no. This is Pitt Karen Ayers daughter, okay? Oh. She was a Swedish young woman. She was incredibly beautiful. The whole story about her is just,

she was a milkmaid. And the whole story is basically, she was just so fit. So she went to Stockholm to work for a year. And basically no one could believe how attractive this milkmaid was. And the bar is high in Sweden as well, didn't you?

Yeah. That's not like being the most attractive. person in Wow. Why would you name, bleep that place out? Bleep that place name out. That was... Bleep it out.

No one will ever know the place name that I know there. Sorry, she was the most attractive person in shockers. She was just so... She was just so fit, basically. We get it. We get it. She's hot. And the stories are like the Crown Prince visitor, incognito, to ask for some milk

because he just wanted to look at this milk win. And he forgot to bring a container. So she gave him a sort of scolding. With hot milk. Not a scolding, sorry, a scolding. She created traffic jams because she was so beautiful. People was doing a go slow as they went past. Or was that just James not moving?

With his horse and cart. Yeah. And there's a statue of her in Sweden now. And I think part of the reason she was apparently so beautiful was that she hadn't had smallpox. Oh, okay. So the bar was slightly lower. Yes, she had had cow pox. And she was accused actually of having soul. more than just milk, you know what I mean?

But that's not true... Cream eggs. Yeah. Milkshake. Actually, she hadn't been selling any... She hadn't been... Any of her milkshake. Right.

Yeah, she'd been selling milk and she was just... Her milkshake brought the king to the yard. Yeah. And he's like, do you have a fair bowl? What's the most famous statue in Scandinavia? Do you have the answer? Yeah. The Copenhagen Mermaid?

The mermaid? The Little Mermaid. Probably an advert for Carlsberg. No. Yeah. It was commissioned by the founder of Carlsberg, Jacob Christian Carlsberg. And he basically said, well, you know, I've got the best beer in the country.

So I'm going to do this nice little statue for everyone to see. And when they see it, they'll remember me and remember my beer. Oh, dear. That's fucked up, isn't it? Because it's one of those adverts, which is very memorable, but you've got no idea what it was for. Yeah, yeah. It's probably the best mermaid statue in the world.

Nice. He hired a sculpture called Edvard Erickson to create it and he hired a ballerina called Ellen Price who was very, very famous in Sweden at the time to model for it. But she was unwilling to get naked and so the face is hers and the body is Mr. Erickson's wife. Really? Wow. What about the tail?

No, that's his wife. That's his wife. That's right. I've just got one more celebrity grandparent facts. Oh, yeah. Drew Barrymore's grandfather's corpse was stolen. So this is John Barrymore, who was very famous actor. He was the John's 1922 Hamlet, which you probably remember, was the greatest hamlet, maybe ever.

Yeah, that was a good one. It really was. He was a famous actor. He was ruined by alcoholism and died in 1942, relatively young. His mates were people like Errol Flynn. And Errol Flynn wrote in his memoir that after Barrymore died, their friend got his body, obtained his body, and hid it for Errol Flynn to find to freak him out. So propped him up in a chair.

And then they spent the night playing poker with it. Is that weekend that Bernies is based on? Do you know what? I think largely it is because it was not only Earl Flynn, it was David Niven. And I want to say Orson, well, someone in that territory of fame. There was a group of them. It was a group of them. I think it is because I haven't really heard of any of those people.

And I've never seen Weekend at Bernies. I'm not really sure what happens in it. I still kind of knew that fact. Wait, so it's weekend at Bernie's about them playing, staying up late with the corpse. Keeping a dead body. Their buddy dies and they need to keep a holiday going. And so they string him up and they use his dead body, yeah. There we go.

That's sort of what they did, except just to have a fun game of poker with him. Wow. Confirmed by Drew Barrymore in 2020. That's right. Yeah, that's pretty cool. If I die, please don't do that. Don't do another podcast. What do you want us to do with your dead body?

then. We could prop it up and do something fun. Prop it up and collect some moths with you. Yeah, lovely. Or the acid thing. Let's just burn you. Jesus Christ. Wow, what a dark turn. This podcast took at the end. It's time to go to our group therapy session now. I'll just shoot that over.

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