No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As An Egg And Cress Portsmouth

Episode Date: September 19, 2014

Episode 27 - Dan (@schreiberland), Anna (@nosuchthing), Andy (@andrewhunterm), and special guest Helen Zaltzman (@helenzaltzman) discuss little old ladies in space, a gang of spying squirrels, Gandalf... the Grey's real name, and more...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We run it on QI a few years ago. Yeah. Which was, there's no such thing as a fish. I mean it's No such thing as a fish. No, seriously. It's in the Oxford Dictionary of Underwater Life. He says it right there. First paragraph, No Such Things a Fish.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast, coming to you from the QI offices in Covent Garden. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting with two of the regular elves, Andy Murray and Anna Chazinski. And we have a special guest today. It's the co-host of Antomy, this, Helen Zaltzman. And once again, we've gathered around with our favorite four facts from the last week. And here they are, in no particular order.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Okay, fact number one, and that's you, Helen. Yes, I discovered that LOL, the acronym that people now use to signify the fact that they're weak-minded and words are inadequate for their own needs. Used to me not laugh out loud or even lots of love, but little old lady, which doesn't come up that much now in. Twitter and TechSpeak, but it was a medical definition. They had a whole list of little old lady related abbreviations like Lollinad, which was Little Old Lady in no apparent
Starting point is 00:01:11 distress, which you would think, why do they need to note the absence of distress, surely you would just note the fact that she was distressed. And lull for Degaboo, which stood for Little Old Lady fall down, go boom. That's a very common complaint, doesn't it? They exploded already.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you have to be very careful because some of them are unstable. Is this a thing like the medical slang, the thing the doctors used to write on charts? Is that where it comes from? Because there's a story that keeps on surfacing about the three-letter acronyms your doctor uses, like, FLK means funny-looking kid. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I think they've not been used for a very long time. No, my friends use them, their doctors. No. Yeah, they're still, they're still amusement. Yeah. I found another LOL, which was through NASA. NASA, when they were sending all of their missions, they had sort of, I guess, I don't know if it's right to call them primitive computers systems, but they had a thing called core rope memory,
Starting point is 00:02:03 which was basically a read-only memory-style computer that they used, and it was made in factories by effectively little old ladies. And it's called lull memory, and it means little old lady memory. And yet, little old ladies, often their memories are really erratic. You know, they'll remember childhood, but not things that happened last week. That's literally the worst style of memory you want to send on a mission to Mars. My grandmother was always calling me by one of my brother's names, because she just couldn't remember.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah. Imagine if Hal on her 2001 Space Odyssey was lull. It was a little old lady. What's your name? Do you want a biscuit? I can't do that, Brian. Or Sydney. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Morse Code had a list of official abbreviations written up in 1878. And it's quite funny because you look through them. So it's called the Phillips Code. And it's obviously like if you're transmitting in Morse Code and you want to speed things up. There are a few things that you say a lot. So he assigned them a number rather than spelling it out. So they're kind of obvious stuff. Like five is, have you got business for me?
Starting point is 00:03:02 22 is wire test. 23 is all copy. 88 is love and kisses. It's the only one that's like that. All the rest of the people try. Yeah. It's a shame it wasn't higher up the rankings. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It also sounds like the most boring bingo callers in the world. Yeah. Number five, wire test. Love and kisses. That's great. I also was, because this whole idea of finding words that were used for different meanings previously. I read this blog written by Anne Curzon, who's a language expert, and she was talking about how different words and what they were previously used for.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So the word guy, to mean a guy, do you know where that comes from? It's not from Guy Fawkes, is it? According to her, yes. Really? Yeah, it comes directly from Guy Fawkes. Oh, it seems too obvious to be true. It does. I think I would have assumed that, and then there was going to be a twisted, weird answer. And then somehow, and it was mainly in America that it picked up, that it just became guy, but it was off the back of Guy Fawkes, according to her. It's weird that it's in America it picked.
Starting point is 00:03:57 fixed up, given that it is a fundamentally British thing. They have no investment in Guy Fawks. And also it suggests that they think all men are merely effigies of humanity. But it's set fire to. It's true, it's true. But it must have been like the original action man, I guess, in America. But it was called Guy. So it was just like, okay, this is a guy.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Did you use to set fire to all your action men? No, I'm just saying action man's called Action Man, right? He's not called Mark. Like, it's an action man. And this was a Guy toy. You got your Guy toy? What is Action Man? real name.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I don't know if Action Man has a name. That is a great question. That is a brilliant question. We're raising more than we're solving today. Yeah. I hope it's something really embarrassing. Like Walter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Wayne. Yeah. Wayne Mann. Man is definitely his last name. I've got a real name for Action Man. No. Yep. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:47 This is in the TV series from 1995, who is a man suffering from amnesia, who is appointed leader of Team Extreme, fighting against the evil Dr. X. He later learns his real name, Matthew Exler. Exler? Yeah, E-X-L-E-R.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Is this TV series canon in the action man genre? According to Action Man Wiki, his name as an action man toy is Matthew Exler as well. I learned a good thing of things that other things used to be called while we're in this category. Oh yeah. So sandwiches, I've been researching, because obviously they're named after but not invented by the fourth Earl of Sandwich. He was only called Sandwich because his great-grandfather, the first Earl, was given the chance to choose a town for the peerage to be named after when he was given a peerage. And he chose sandwich because it's where his fleet was anchored.
Starting point is 00:05:34 He was a big admiral. And he originally didn't want to choose sandwich. He chose it because his first choice was Portsmouth. And there was already a Lord Portsmouth. And they had a bit of an argy-bargy about who would get to be the Earl of Portsmouth. So we could all be having egg and crest Portsmouth today. How cool is that? That's very cool, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It works, a Portsmouth. I can imagine saying that. It actually is more of a sensible word than sandwich. Herm and choose Portsmouth? Yes, please. Yeah. Yeah, that worked. Much more inviting.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yeah, that felt very good. Just jumping on Portsmouth, something that should have had a different name as well, Gandalf the Grey wasn't going to be called Gandalf the Grey. What was it going to be called? Action Man. He was going to be called Action Mad Gray. He was going to be called Bladethon. Which is not what you should call it old man with a beard.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Blatherthin. Depleth trouble. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, B-L-A-D-O-R-T-H-I-N. That was a name that was a very. eventually given to a dead king who's mentioned just once. I'm not surprised he mentioned just once. Sladder thin.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, readers didn't go for that. Won't bring him back. Yeah. So I enjoy the battle of emoticons where the first emoticon appeared, you know? So I think we researched some of this for QI last year. This is related to Lolls, right? And everyone sees the link. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So there was a smiley face, apparently, in a transcript of a speech by Lincoln, which is just a semicolon and a closed brackets. So Winky. Yeah. Yeah. We have won the Battle of Gettysburg. Wing. Wing, wing.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Does that mean he has one or he's not? I just changed the history books. That might be the most revealing thing a document has ever shown. That was history altered. That's the equivalent of fingers crossed behind the back. Or not. So I think it's a typo. But now there's one in 1648, which someone has found in a 1648 poem.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It's called To Fortune by Robert Herrick. It has the word smiling yet, and then it has a colon and then a closed brackets. And it is in brackets, so it's probably also a typo. But the first actual emoticons, definitely emoticons, were in Puck, weren't they, in 1881. We'll put this on the website. What's Puck? Puck is a humor magazine, a satirical magazine in the 19th century. And so basically it was in a joke about how they didn't want to keep paying cartoonists.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So there's quite a funny little paragraph they say where they say, cartoonists are totally overrated, we don't need you as stupid, overpaid, overvalued art. we can create art just with our typewriters and then it gives you a smiley face a grumpy face, a bored face and a surprised face below created with typography and they're the first smileys
Starting point is 00:08:05 puck 1881 and yet you would think that back then when it was a lot harder to type than it is now because keyboards were quite beefy and before that scribes had a lot of words do you think that emoticons would be more expedient than they are now now it's easier than ever to type a word and yet people
Starting point is 00:08:21 less inclined yeah you're saying they were just saying they were just certified in 1881. But now, no. Get over at people. Yes. Bio tapestry could have saved a big drawing of Harold. Just do a winky face. Actually originally meant has been shot in eye. Maybe that like an arrow in an eye is just typography for winky face back in those days. That's all he was doing. Okay, time for fact number two. And that's my fact. My fact this week is,
Starting point is 00:08:52 according to researchers at Glasgow Caledonian University, listening to Billy Connolly can substantially increase your tolerance to pain. Why? Is it because after you've listened to Billy Connolly, everything else seems insignificant, or is it that Billy Connolly really distracts you from the pain and makes it feel more positive? It's a positive thing. It was basically an ice bucket challenge.
Starting point is 00:09:11 They put patients' fists into buckets of ice, and they found that when they were listening to Billy Conley, it actually increased the length of time that they could keep their hand inside there. So it distracted them. It distracted them and made them sort of enjoy having their fist in a bucket of ice. This is directly from an artist. that announced the findings of these scientists. It's from April 7, 2003. So boffins have proved that laughter... Boffins.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So immediately very much a... Pejoritan. Yeah. What are these bloody dweeps find out then? Okay. Nerdburgers have proved that laughter really is the best medicine, with some help from Billy Conley's stand-up routines. A team of scientists discovered that the Biggians' patter acts as a painkiller.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Psychologists compared people's pain thresholds while listening to music, comedy, and doing mental arithmetic. The Glasgow Caledonian University team claims vintage Connolly, only vintage apparently. None of his new stuff. Increased tolerance of pain by up to three times. I completely buy this, actually. It was a three-year study. The weird thing is that things were different for men and women. So for women, the most effective pain relief was not actually from the comedy. It was from hearing their favorite music. If you're allowed to choose your own music, that has an also beneficial effect on the kind of... It's the gateway theory, isn't it? It's one theory of pain that by blocking the pain from getting through with another stimulus.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. People could be listening to this show whilst having minor surgery to take their mind off it. I don't know if our chat about doctors at the beginning is going to get us into hospitals now. In the, I think it was around 1910 or 1915, a woman had a grapefruit-sized tumour removed from her ovary. She had the surgery on her kitchen table. And even though anaesthesia existed at that point, she didn't have any. She just sang hymns to stave off the pain. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Did it work? Well, she's dead now. Tim has gone very high-pitched and shrieky. I guess, no, it's definitely in the notes. Yeah, tip for dentists and people carrying out minor surgery. Turn to him, 454 in your books. Nearer my God to thee. No, not near my god's thee.
Starting point is 00:11:15 There's no evidence that the surgeons forced anesthesia upon this woman just to shut her up. It'd be super distracting, wouldn't it? And also, it means she wouldn't be still. That's true. High risk. Dental surgery, that would be really irritating, wouldn't it? There are amazing things which can increase your tolerance to pain. They've tried smells on people.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Morphine. They've tried working in a team, so they tested on rowers. They tried rowers from the Oxford Boat Race Squad, and they put them in a team, and they had a higher pain threshold when they were working together, or when they had been training together than when they were separate.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So we're going to perform surgery on you, but if all your friends also agree to have surgery performed on them at the same time, It's going to be better for you. Maybe it just seems ruder to moan when you know that everyone else is feeling the same pain as you. Can I tell you about one guy, football match, F.A. Cup final, Manchester City, Birmingham in 1956. The goalkeeper from City was called Bert Troutman.
Starting point is 00:12:10 He broke his neck after diving for the ball and played on. Wow. He made a series of crucial saves and his team won three one. Wow. I know. A 2006 study found that people with migraines, people who get migraines have 20% more sexual desire. There you go.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Again, is it to take their minds off it? It's just about taking your mind off it, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Tonight, dear, I've got a headache. Hop on. There was quite a good 2008 study at Stanford. It showed traumatic pictures to its study participants.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I just like it because it sounds like a traumatic study to be involved in and found that if you encourage the participants to make jokes about the trauma. thing you are watching, then it decreased their negative feelings about it. And if you encourage them to make positive jokes, it really decreased their negative feelings about it. So they were shown pictures of, this is the list, ranging from car accidents and corpses to aggressive animals and dental exams. God. But I'm so impressed that the study participants could make funny joke.
Starting point is 00:13:11 If someone says it make a positive joke about that picture of a dead person now, I'm quite impressed. They could all do it. The thing is, it's kind of like mock the week in that sense. Okay, time to move on. time to go to fact number three, and that is Chazinski. My fact is that the first woman to cycle around the world learned to ride a bike the day before she set off.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Well, she probably figured she could pick it up on the mission. Yeah, you've got long enough. Yeah, by practice. What I like is that in the 1890s, the records for round the world travel and the records for cycling around the world were both broken by women. Wow. It was quite unexpected. Nelly Bligh was a woman who wanted to imitate Phileas Fogg and do around the days.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. Did it in 72. So who was this woman who cycled around the world? She was called Annie Cohen Koppowski. She was originally Latvian. She was 23 years old at the time. Jewish married mother of three children lived in Boston. And she just decided she was going to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So she was such an amazing character. So she was a real raconteur. She told amazing stories. So it's very hard to know actually what if her story is true and what's not. But she said, you know, I got on a bike the day before. I had two lessons and set off. And she claimed she did this because she'd heard these two men in a bar make a bet that no woman could travel around the world on a bike. And so she decided to challenge them.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And she was offered a $10,000 reward if she made it, which she did, so she got that. Interestingly, when she did it, she wasn't called Annie Kohn Koppchowski. She was called Annie Londonderry, because she got sponsorship from Londonderry Springwater. So they paid her $100 to change her name and have their branding on the back of her bike. That's hilarious. It's good, isn't it? Wow. So it dates back a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, so much further than I had realized. Yeah. When you're cycling around the world, what are the rules about crossing water? Could you do the least amount of land cycling possible and just take a boat from most of the way? She did. She did do a lot of boating. You would have to really because of oceans. There was a very snarky thing that was said about it when she got back, which was they said she travelled around the world with a bike, not on a bike.
Starting point is 00:15:12 She was the first woman to travel around the world with a bike. Nelly Bligh did not bring bike. Still a record, guys. And she made up a lot of things about her life, didn't she? Yeah, she said that she'd studied medicine for two years. And she was a married mother of three. She was sold in the newspaper stories as an unmarried and childless woman. Maybe she just wanted to get away from the kids.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Have any of you been following the progress of Mr. Ballsy, who is a man who, in order to raise awareness of testicular cancer, of which he is a survivor and currently in remission, is pushing a giant inflatable testicle across the United States from Los Angeles to New York. It started on the 3rd of September, so he's done a few hundred miles, and he's got 4,000 left to go. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And he's been through some desert, so he's quite lucky that the testicle hasn't punctured yet. We can shelter in the shade of it, though, to protect himself from the heat. How big is it? Six feet diameter. And he's just rolling it along? He's rolling it along.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And if you meet him along the way, then you can write things on the testicle. Great. That's great. Yeah, that is so cool. Mr. Balsey sounds like a good Mr. Man as well. Mr. Bullsey went for it. He didn't care.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Was he called Bullsey originally, or was he sponsored by the Bullsie? company. His name is Thomas Cantley. But yeah, Andy, you were saying she made up fantastical stories about her life, this woman. And it was partly, I think, how she funded her trip. So she'd sell their stories and to give lectures along the way and stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So a few of the things she claimed was that she spoke several languages, that she'd been to a whole bunch of countries that she definitely didn't go to. That she'd hunted tigers with Indian royalty. She was almost killed by what she called Asiatics because they thought she was an evil spirit. She fought in the Sino-Japanese War in 1895, where she fell through a frozen river, ended up in a Japanese prison with a bullet wound in her shoulder.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And then she was attacked by highwaymen in Marseille. This is amazing. She was just a brilliant storytelling. People loved it. Not surprisingly. Well, you would, wouldn't you? If no one was there to check, you wouldn't just say, yeah, it was fine.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah, it was fine. Yeah, you're right. Do you think the men in the bar who were betting that a woman could never psych around the world? Do you think they existed, or were they just a fiction to get her to do this trip? I don't know. You can imagine men betting that. I thought the idea was that they were just making those kind of bets, and she thought, Oh yeah, that's, because they call it the age of round the world bets.
Starting point is 00:17:27 No one's ever traced the men. She made them up. Yeah. But nonetheless, very cool. I found a lady called Juliana Buring was the first lady to cycle actually around the world. And it was in 2012, which staggers me. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's weird, isn't it? You would have thought they'd done it ages ago. When we say actually, I mean, without taking a boat most of the way, which to be fair, it's what Annie Landon Derry did. Or a plane. Yeah. So there are official rules about it. think these must be Guinness World Record rules. You have to cycle the same distance as the circumference of the earth, which is 24,900 miles. You have to go in one direction and start and
Starting point is 00:18:02 finish in the same place. So you are allowed to go by sea and air, but do you have to cycle at least 18,000 miles of the route? So that's the rules. And she actually, Ms. Buring, she had only been riding a road bike properly for eight months, which is not quite the same as, you know, learning the day before. But still, it's not much training. Yeah, she's not a pro, is she? Wow. Yeah, I thought 2012 was late. When women started cycling, obviously it was very controversial in the 19th century because it was thought of as inappropriate thing for women to be doing. And a New York newspaper released a list of rules for women cycling, a list of advice, which included things like, don't try to ride in your brother's clothes just to see how it feels. Don't scream if you meet
Starting point is 00:18:42 a cow. If she sees you first, she will run. And don't use bicycle slang. Leave that to the boys. Bicycle slang. Bicycle slang. It was a very haughty. Subject language. Yeah, it was. What about things like how not to flash their bloomers and... Well, they weren't supposed to wear bloomers at first, but then they started because they were much more sensible attire than... I think people wanted to keep women wearing proper clothing
Starting point is 00:19:04 rather than changing for cycling. So they sold special lightly boned corsets for ladies, like those of the American Lady Corset Company, which offered $100 of free bicycle insurance with every biking corset sold. Oh, so that came with the bike? Oh, insurance was a massive thing. to get insurance, if you read the Daily Mail, you would have insurance against railway accidents. If you could prove it, you had a copy of the coupon from the paper on you when you were
Starting point is 00:19:29 maimed in a railway accident, then you would be given £100 of insurance. Wow. What a handy thing to have around. Yeah. I love the original title of the bicycle, because it wasn't originally called bicycle. What was it? I mean, there was a more primitive version of a bicycle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Called the, uh, Velocopede. Oh, yeah. Isn't that great? Velocete. Velocede. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds so much speedier and cooler.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah. I thought you'd say they didn't want women to cycle because it was dangerously liberating. Well, it was that. You can move around more. You can move to the next village and find maybe another man, not the man that your uncle wants you to marry. The thing that I love about Annie Londonderry is she just, it's of that period. I mean, I think we still have people like that living today. But when you read stories about them, it's like, oh, I'm going to cycle the world. Oh, I don't know how to cycle kind of thing. It's just these brilliant eccentrics who just went off and did these huge endurance feats.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Like Mary Kingsley, I look at her and just go, what an extraordinary person. She just went off and did it in a time where she was told you shouldn't be doing that. She was an explorer. Yeah, she was an explorer. Yeah, yeah, she went to West Africa. She used to do this thing. Whenever she would rock up to a tribe that would just, you know, not necessarily had any contact. And she was told the majority of these places, they will just kill you on site.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And her thing was she just didn't care. She just used to run into the villages and just yell, don't worry, it's only. mean? And she survived the more. That's amazing. On round the world stuff, another random connection. The first ship to travel
Starting point is 00:21:00 around the world twice was called HMS Dolphin. It was in the 1760s but it was captained by Lord Byron's grandfather and he was the same guy who named and claimed the Falkland Islands. So when he was on HMS Dover and he bumped into the Falklands, went, can I call these a Falklands and King George, they're yours.
Starting point is 00:21:16 He was very accident. He was called Foulweather Jack. That was his nickname. Whenever he went, he had an amazing, unerring knack of sailing into massive storms and hurricanes and tempests. Really? Yeah. So you can imagine the crew's delight when they saw him walking up the gangplank. Oh, great. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:32 This is going to be fun. Hey. Have you all brought your umbrellas? Okay, time for our final fact of the show, and that is Andy Murray. Okay, my fact is, when squirrels are attacked by snakes, they increase their blood pressure so much that their tail gives off more infrared radiation. and it makes them look bigger. That is really cool. Just the tail or the rest of the squirrel as well?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Just the tail, really, yeah. I should specify, this is with Californian ground squirrels, and it's when they're dealing with rattlesnakes. Now, rattlesnakes can see an infrared, and so when they are confronted, they heat up their tail, deliberately, they increase the temperature, and then they wave it in the snake's face.
Starting point is 00:22:14 To the snake's infrared sensing organs, it looks as though there's a much larger creature there. And when they see other snakes, they don't do it. They do wave their tail around, but they know that The rattlesnake can see an infrared. Yeah, they know the rattlesnake can see infrared, even though the squirrel can't see an infrared. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It knows the rattlesnake can. And when it meets a gopher snake, which can't see an infrared, doesn't do it. I mean, it doesn't know it can see an infrared. It's evolved to learn that the rattlesnake doesn't like just away. Well, maybe it's as a coincidence. Happy coincidence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 But as Alan says, it's not, it doesn't see a huge animal. It sees a small squirrel with a gigantic tail. Yeah. Is that what was happening? And they're scared of tails? They can't be. They're terrified of tails. They've got their own lethal tails.
Starting point is 00:22:58 There's a type of squirrel where its genitals are 40% the length of its body. So I wonder whether rattles take, like, I'm not bothering it. And that squirrel can autophilates. Yeah, it gives it solfalatia. Oh, goodness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a good claim again. I saw a photo of it and its testicles are 20% the length of its body.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And it's just outrageous. If you see them in infrared, they're twice as big as that. Yeah. These are South African ground squirrels. Someone worked out that if they were humans, they'd have a 35 centimetre scrotum. That's inconvenient, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:31 On a bicycle, especially. Apparently in 2007, in Iran, they arrested 14 squirrels on suspicion of espionage. Wow. That's wonderful. So, wait, what were the squirrels doing in Iran? Well, they thought that they'd been all kitted up by the enemy to go in and do squirrel espionage.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Were they kitted up? What with magnifying glass of stuff? Tooled up squirrels. They've got a calaschnikov. They've got rations. If I found a squirrel like carrying an enigma machine or something, I would actually be suspicious that something was going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Someone is going to a lot of effort for a YouTube viral, certainly. Yeah. Animal defence mechanisms are extraordinary, though, aren't they? Because some of them are obvious, like making yourself look big. But others of them, like, there's a... The horned lizard in Texas can shoot blood up to five feet out of its eyes. But then it's lost a third of its... blood, so it's not exactly a fighting fit, is it?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Has to go up and collect all the blood again on the ground. You wouldn't have a... If I was, you know, picking my own fish in a restaurant tank and one shot blood out of its eyes, probably pick a different fish. Fair enough. C cucumber as well, they shoot their internal organs out of their anusis. And you think, well, that's really going to scare an enemy, isn't it? Oh, look, I've had a prolapse. Get away. They shoot their intestinesones. I mean, that's intestinesines. They just, that's a pretty severe bullet to get to the face.
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's a bold move. It is a very bold. How do you get them back in? Is it like on a spring? They just grow new ones. They just grow new ones. Oh, really? Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Sounds like cucumbers roll. Cool. There are squirrels which can do other things as well. So one of California ground squirrels, they chew on old skins from rattlesnakes, and then they lick themselves and their pups. And this makes them smell half like a squirrel and half like a snake. And it means that the snakes leave them alone. And they've tested on snakes.
Starting point is 00:25:17 They've given them stuff that smells like squirrels, like snakes, and then this half-and-half mix. and they only go for the stuff which smells exclusively like a squirrel. So that's how they protect themselves. Other ones have ultrasound. Squirrels are incredible. What's the thing you were telling me about eagles the other day with squirrels? Oh, yeah. If they're being hunted by a bird of prey,
Starting point is 00:25:34 they will go round and round a tree very first to disorient the bird, which will sort of start spiraling and then crash into the branches of the tree and be embarrassed. I'll have to leave because of its embarrassment. They're just, they're amazing. That sounds like something out of a cartoon. It does, isn't it? Not sure.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Squirrels versus rattlesnakes does seem like a classic cartoon set up. Oh, they've got to do that. In the like Alien versus Predator series, in their whole series of films, they've got to do squirrels versus rattlesnakes. Yeah, and it wouldn't be much worse than the most recent Alien versus Predator films. So is it definitely that it's not an intimidation thing to the rattlesnake? It's that they think it's bigger. Because I read a thing where it said that what it in fact does,
Starting point is 00:26:09 it says to the rattlesnake that I know that you're there. Rather than being a sort of like, whoa, that's a big squirrel. Better not mess with that one. I don't know if they know exactly what effect they think they're having on the rattlesnake. Have they not asked? Whether it's attack or defense or anything like that. But it seems to have the desired effect. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. It would just probably shock them. In the same way that cats do it. I mean, lots of animals do it, don't they? That's why we get goosebumps. So we look bigger. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not the most functional defense mechanism.
Starting point is 00:26:36 All the hair, right? It's a hangover from when we were covered in hair. Okay. People think they're not sure. All the hairs rise up. Yeah, yeah. And therefore, you look slightly bigger and more intimidated. Very slight.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I mean, I agree it's a shit defense mechanism. Well, you look like you've just been blow-dried. Yeah. And that's scary. Yeah. It's scary. He looks after himself, but he knows it's a fight. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Speaking of things that shoot out of the eyeballs, so the Toad you were just talking about, do you guys know about the Mongolian deathworm? No. So no one's technically seen a Mongolian deathworm. Okay, the Maidop Deathworm. This is like Yeti's and Brian Blessed. They don't exist.
Starting point is 00:27:10 It is accrupted. There are people in Mongolia who claim to have seen it. It's definitely encrypted. But what I like about it is its defense mechanism is that it can shoot acid from its eyes and lightning bolts from its ass. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. This made-up creature can shoot lightning. Sorry, who came up with this? It's a Mongolian fiction. Fiction. Right. Yeah, that is incredible. We should be able to utilize that in science somehow.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Lightning can create lightning from an anus. It's like Dan's Crypto Corner, isn't it? Every week there'll be... And if you spot where it is, you let us know, and you'll win a book. It's a particular kind of ant that can shoot a nuclear holocaust after its point. Ah, there is a termite, though. that explodes if you're eating it. So if it gets eaten bites prey, it kind of suicide bombs itself
Starting point is 00:27:56 and it takes out the prey that's eating it. There we are. And see, through fiction, we found our way back to fact. Yes. Well done. Can I tell you one more thing about squirrels? Yeah, please. Okay, so there are Arctic ground squirrels,
Starting point is 00:28:10 and they hibernate for eight months of the year. But when they're hibernating, their body temperature drops to minus three degrees Celsius, which is the lowest body temperature any mammal has ever been recorded as having. As in right in the middle, its core is minus three. How do they do that? Well, some fish do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:28:26 It's called being super cooled, and they live in sub-zero temperatures. But they know how the fish do it because they have a kind of anti-freeze in their blood. But the squirrels don't have that. So they have no idea how they do it. Also, on squirrels, they plant more trees than humans do because 74% of the nuts they bury, they forget where they put them. Wow. Idiots.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Idiots. It was the too busy auto-folating. Goose bumps, which we were talking about. Great books. R. L. Stein. Excellent series. He tweeted me once. That was the most exciting moment.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Well, I tweeted him first. He tweeted that. Did he just tweet you saying, woo? Sorry, Anna. Sorry. It was a weird bumpy texture. Yes, yeah. But goosebumps are called hen bumps in French and Spanish.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Chicken bumps. in Dutch and Chinese and duck bumps in Hebrew but there's a real poultry theme there's definitely a poetry theme everyone's got the same idea and they've just gone to slight different ways with it. I think maybe cold turkey has something to do with that as well when people are coming off drugs they get massive goosebumps
Starting point is 00:29:34 and people are like when you've got a turkey that you've plucked oh really? Okay turkeys which have been plucked do look like that like herring addicts no recovering Pete Docherty's Look
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