No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As An Emotional Support Amoeba
Episode Date: December 6, 2019Live from New York, Dan, James, Anna and Andrew discuss Hornigold the pirate, support animals for other animals, and why the French can't decide on what to call a pencil. ...
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Welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast this week coming to you live from New York City.
My name is Dan Schreiber.
I am sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Andrew Hunter Murray, and James Harkin.
And once again, we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days.
And in no particular order, here we go.
Starting with fact number one, and that is James.
Okay, my fact this week is that when race horses travel by ever...
airplane, they're allowed to bring an emotional support goat for no extra cost.
So this is absolutely true. It was an article I read in USA Today about a company called
H.E. Text Sutton. And they are the only company in America that has a specific aircraft that
it uses to fly horses. That plane is known as Air Horse One. Nice. Amazing. So I read the
The pet goats sort of keep them calm when they're flying because they are friends.
They're mate.
But they're free.
They're basically hand luggage.
But also there are human grooms who are accompanying the horses and you don't have to pay for them either.
So they're also hand luggage.
The humans are basically the carry-on luggage of the horses.
And who goes up in the overhead compartment and who goes under the seat of those two?
Goat in the overhead?
Goat in the overhead.
It's not always goats actually, is it?
It's anything that makes the horses feel chilled.
So chickens quite often come with them.
Basically, they try to recreate the atmosphere of their stable exactly,
because these racorses are very precious.
So to make them feel comfortable, they do that.
And they have constant grooms, don't they?
Is that like the proper raceauces, the big guns,
will have sort of 12, 15 grooms constantly stroking, reassuring them?
Dan, you're not a very good flyer, are you?
No, yeah.
Would you like it to have, like, 15 men just stroking you throughout their journey?
They can only help, right?
Yeah, exactly.
They do get separated by, according to how,
much they pay. So if you don't pay very much, there are three of you in a stall, and that's
basically the economy. And then if you're in first class, you get a whole stool to yourself. And
they're separated by sex. Are they? Yes. The fillies, the lady horses, are loaded at the back
so that the cults, which are further up, don't smell them and get excited. Because the wind is
going this way. Why is the wind going that way? Well, you're flying, I imagine. No, no, no. I'm
You have fundamentally misunderstood how aeroplanes are.
The air is rushing past this way.
They don't wind the windows down.
I think Andy flies in convertible planes.
So there's no mile high club in the horse world.
Nothing. No, imagine it would be mayhem.
There must have been at some point.
No, there's no. Come on.
They don't have free time.
It's not like a seatbelt sign goes off and the horses can wander around the plane.
Right.
I bet sometimes one of the.
back's like oh this toilet's taken do you mind if i just pop up front and use the girls um maybe not
this air horse one is not just horses that go in it um one time someone took their miniature cow
in the airplane and apparently once they took five dolphins no but i have no idea how that works
how does that work well they just need they just have an emotional support crab with them and then
they're fine did you say you did know yes because uh
They did this another time.
So in 1965, they flew with dolphins for the first time.
And this was from the US to the Netherlands.
I'm not entirely sure why.
Maybe they were just going on holiday.
But they had hammocks for them.
So you can see pictures of these dolphins in these hammocks
with little holes for their fins.
And each dolphin had a groom next to them,
covering them with water at all times.
So they had to be constantly flanneling them down.
Wow.
I read about this dolphins,
the dolphins going on Air Horse 1.
And the operations manager was interviewed
about the,
trip and he said everyone involved with those dolphins was very hush-hush they had a police escort
and no one would say anything or answer questions which made you think they were probably
military dolphins okay you know they get the pilots treat these animals better than they
treat us when they're flying they fly more carefully for the animals so the horses they're so
worried because the horses are really expensive much more expensive than a human and so they really don't
want them these racorses to be damaged by falling over or whatever. So the pilots do extremely
wide turns in the air and very, very gentle ascents and descents to the extent that the aircraft
can actually detour for more than 500 miles in order to just not disturb the horses. No,
because they do a massive loop instead of going, just going and then turning straight left.
Yeah, exactly. What have you been in a plane that's turned straight left? You really fly economy.
What do you mean fly economy?
It's not like the economy people going one direction
and the business class going another direction.
We've already established that Andy thinks there's a gust of wind below you.
So emotional support, animals on planes.
This is obviously a big, huge thing.
And I mean the stories keep cropping up
and they keep on being funny because animals on planes just doesn't work.
So I don't know if you guys saw this.
There was a British flight from, well, it was from Gatwick to Austin.
in. This was last month
and it was delayed by an hour
and a half because two emotional
support bulldogs, which
were wearing tutus and were there
to help their owners get through the flight,
they themselves became
too distressed to be on the plane.
Oh, really? Yeah, the dogs
needed emotional support. And did they get it?
No, of course they do.
Oh, no. They might be... Well, it does
make sense because animals with
anxious humans become more anxious,
don't they? That's been proven, I think.
So really, if you do have an emotional support animal,
they should have one.
And it should go smaller and smaller and smaller.
Yeah, exactly.
Emotional support amoeba or something.
I don't know.
One of the first ones that kind of became big online
and was a bit of a meme was someone called Carla Fitzgerald.
And she had a duck.
And she was getting on the plane
and someone took a photo and put it online.
I do remember that, but what I didn't remember
is that the duck's name was Daniel Ter Duckin' Stinkerbutt.
Not at the first ever emotional support animals.
Turducken.
Turducken, yeah.
That's the thing where you put a...
Is it a chicken inside a turkey?
And then a chicken inside the duck?
Sure.
If I...
I think so.
I think it's it.
All I'm saying is that if I was a duck
and my middle name was Ter Ducken,
I would be concerned about what the future held for me.
That's why...
But maybe that's the incentive to be emotionally supportive to your owner.
Otherwise, it's sort of a warning about where you might end up.
This is my pet duck.
Donald Hoyson Murray.
It's crazy.
So that was 2013, I think that story happened.
2011, so there's a national service for animal registry,
and they're the ones who will sort of issue a vest
that the animal will have to wear,
and they give the certificate as well.
2011, there was 2,400 animals that were issued with that.
Now we've got over 200,000.
So it's exploded into...
But I've never seen a duck on a plane.
No, me neither.
all the articles you read imply that they're creating havoc on all of our flights.
Has anyone ever seen an emotional support animal flight?
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
They're all here.
That's what we've learned.
Okay.
That's that then.
They are controversial, though, because they have exponentially increased, as you say,
and there is almost no evidence to back up the idea that if you have a genuine mental illness
that having an emotional support animal on the flight can make you feel better.
As in, there hasn't been the studies done,
But obviously for individuals, it does seem to work.
But there is this industry cropping up to make money,
so you can get these certificates really easily off Amazon.
You just click a button and you get a certificate saying,
this is an emotionally support certified frog or whatever.
And it's actually really weird researching this
because I was reading all these articles about how it's being so fraudulently used
and how no one should do it.
But because the Google algorithms are sort of idiot sometimes,
in the middle of these articles I kept getting advertised.
Do you want an emotional support certificate for your dolphin in three easy steps?
Can I just say we went to Google the other day,
and I think some of our friends from Google might be in here,
so I just like to say they're not idiots, are they?
They're very smart guys.
Very vocal.
Do you know one of the first, in my opinion, emotional support animals?
Go on.
From the early 20th century.
So in the first decade of flight,
a lot of people would fly with an animal
called a spotted cockpit terrier.
And this was a special breed of dog
that didn't really get upset if you put him in an aircraft.
And also it gave off a lot of heat,
and so it would keep you warm in your cockpit.
So, for instance, in your kind of planes,
where the wind is coming past you,
and you're getting cold, you have this little dog,
and it keeps you warm.
Sorry, is this real?
This is real.
Wow.
There's loads of photos of them.
If you go on Smithsonian, you'll see loads of pictures
of these early pioneers of flight
with a little dog next to them.
That's not emotional support any more
than really wearing a jacket is emotional support, is it?
I was looking into the history of flying horses.
So,
Pegasus.
Yeah, let me rephrase that.
I was looking into the history of horses
that have been made to fly.
And surprisingly, it goes back to the 17th century,
actually more the 18th century.
I found this, and I can't believe this is true,
but I've seen numerous drawings of it.
They used to do hot air ballooning with horses back in France, and there's an image.
And so initially, it's not like the horses even in the basket.
They attach the strings around the horse, and it was a person called Em Potavin,
who used to ride the horse up into the air as it was attached to the balloons.
What?
Yeah, so the horse was the basket, and he just used to go up and just wave,
and then land and trot off into the distance, which is crazy.
And then there was this other guy, Pierre Tetsu Brissy, who had a basket, but he had a horse in it.
And he did over 50 flights with his horse.
Wow.
He is amazing that guy, by the way.
He did a lot of experiments in the early days of ballooning.
And one of the things that he did is people didn't really know what happened with electrical storms and thunder and lightning and stuff like that.
And so he went up into clouds where there was thunder and lightning with a metal rod to see if he could get the lightning to strike him.
Wow.
And presumably it didn't.
If it did, it only happened once, I...
Well, I wrote...
So this is not an animal, but I was looking into
what are things that aren't allowed on planes,
and if we're allowed all these animals on,
what can you get on?
And there's a lady called Jan Bevan a few years ago,
so she's in Switzerland,
and she was going to Baltimore to do a concerto,
and she plays the cello.
The cello was too big.
She was worried about it being checked and below.
So she bought the cello a seat on the plane,
which has actually done quite a lot.
So she signed it in as...
Chuck Cello, she gave it a name, and she got to the airport,
and they didn't let her fly to America because the cello did not have a visa to get in.
It's got a seat, so it has to be a thing, and it hasn't got a visa.
So she got kicked off the flight.
She never made it, yeah, never made it to her concert.
I think it's really dangerous to call your cello Chuck Cello when airport staff are handling it.
It sounds too much like an instruction.
It is type of fact number two, and that is.
Chisinski. My fact this week is that the French can't decide how to say the word pencil
in their own language. So I couldn't believe this. A lot of us learn French when we're growing
up and I guess we're just taught to say crayon, but there's an article about how basically
France is split up into regions depending on their word for pencil, and I counted seven
different words for it. It is insane. And if you talk to people from the individual regions,
they think the guy next door is an idiot who says it a different way.
And I actually, I call my French friend and said, okay, well, what do you think of this article?
What do you say?
And so he said he would call it a crayon a papier, as in a crayon for paper, or a crayon amine,
and which seems to mean crayon of the mine, which is very weird.
But then he said, but also apparently you can call it crayon de papier.
Now, my friend, who's from Provence, said, if someone asked me for a crayon de papier,
I would very politely give him a pencil.
and I would ask him to go and draw some stick figures,
you functional illiterate,
because that means a pencil made of paper.
But apparently not to these guys.
He speculated that it was on the east side of France.
He speculated maybe it was something that came over with the Nazis.
That was his theory.
That feels like a stretch, doesn't it?
They did a lot of bad stuff.
That feels like a longer-term destabilization project, doesn't it?
So what did cause the...
second French Revolution. Well.
Wow.
It is weird. So, I mean, they are...
The crayon grie is another one, grey crayon,
which my friend said, maybe I heard that.
If I read a book from the 50s, I might have read it like that.
Crayon de Bois, pencil made of wood,
maybe to distinguish from those little plastic ones
that have the lead come up through the middle.
And, yeah, seven different words for pencil.
Don't know how to say it.
Don't know how they've got anywhere in life.
Discuss.
They'd probably just use pens.
Good point.
They're always having furious rouse about their language, though, the French.
And they have this body, the Academy Francaise, which is very, very ancient.
It was founded nearly 400 years ago, and its job is just to rule on French language disputes,
and especially if an English word makes its way into the language,
they have to come up with a French equivalent for it.
Yeah.
And they're generally very elderly.
Once you're joined, you're in for life.
In 2010, they made a big decision.
They voted that new entrants must be under 75 years old.
There's too many wherever that.
And they didn't make it retroactive
because they would have had to kick out
almost everybody in the academy.
And they're called immortals, aren't they?
Which I don't know if that can't be true.
They're not. They frequently die.
They have a special uniform.
They have an official uniform
which is known as Labi Vee.
there, which I think translates as green clothing, because there is green, but then there also
means worm, it also means towards, and it also means glass. Okay, so if in French, you want to say
the green worm goes towards the green glass, it's translated as la ver, veer, va ver,
ver, ver, la ver, ver. No, poor. That's amazing. So, do they, do they at home have the, I mean,
which is their green clothing
and the next to it have a worm costume
said, oh no, I've turned up
in my abbe there when I meant to turn up in my abbe
there. I'm sure that has happened on numerous
occasions. It's too far
fetched, I regretted conjuring up the image as I said
it. Yeah,
they are also almost exclusively
men, there have only ever been nine
female immortals, although there have already been
730 in the last 400 years
in total, but that is still a low
percentage, I'm sorry,
can we just establish that as definitely a
Yeah, percentage.
They also, there's a thing, I've been trying to actually find out if this is true.
So I wonder if you guys have heard.
So when someone passes away, that's when they have to refill a seat, right?
But each seat has a different number assigned to it.
And so you fill someone's predecessor's seat.
And as part of filling it, you need to make a speech about how great they are.
And there's currently a bunch of empty seats because no one is willing to say nice things about the person who was their predecessor.
And I looked into the list.
There's about six empty seats, and there's no reason for it,
because it's an elite.
They say this is the greatest elitist secret club
that you could be a part of in France.
You're commanding the language.
Some of the greatest writers in the history of France
have been a part of it.
And the six empty seats is the last six with dicks.
A lot of the great writers didn't get to be part of it, right?
So Bolzac tried to get in, Zola tried to get in.
None of them could.
Wow.
Yeah.
They do sound like a kind of a bunch of assholes, do you?
No.
I don't know.
If you go on their website, their slogan is
Dear, not dare.
As in say and don't say.
And it was basically created
to stop the English invasion of the French
language. And they've done quite well.
It's 1635 by Louis XVI Chief
Minister. And yeah, because they didn't like
the idea that English might be, you know, might
start encroaching on their territory. But it does mean
they have these weird words. So
they have a word for a podcast, in fact.
which so most countries would sort of go with podcast
but the French
well yes French podcast will be German
yes
podcast Russian
Italian
Podocaster
yeah
let's try Nigerian
I don't think we should
we've reached my limit
thank you
let's move on quickly
so their word for a podcast
is a diffusion for balladeur
which is a
broadcast for Walkman.
Wow!
And this is where the Academy
Member's age, I think, really starts to shoot.
But the French language
has, just the size
of the whole lexicon is smaller than
the English language. So, this
causes problems for translations,
for example. So
the Harry Potter books are
long, in French,
they're even longer in French.
So Voldemort, he who must not be named,
is,
Saluit,
don't
do not pronounce
the nom.
And they have
really fun times
translating those books.
So,
Hufflep.
Nice.
So good.
And some of them,
they're really literal.
So Neville Longbottom
is Neville Long Duper
or Neville Long in the Bottom.
And then,
but the Hogwarts,
the school,
is Pudelard,
which means
pig,
lice. So hog warts
has become pig lice.
Ah, nice. Yeah. So they've
taken two words for pig and put them together
and then two words for an STD and put them together.
Very cool.
Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah.
So there is a letter in French, which is a letter
U and then it's got like a
grave accent, so it's going down, down
from the top left to the bottom right.
And that letter is only in one
word in the entire language.
Wow. And that is the word
who, which means where.
And the only reason it's there is because there's
another word, ooh, which means
or, but they're pronounced exactly
the same, but they put this extra letter
in so you know which one you're talking about.
So it's only in a single word, and
yet, on a French keyboard, it still has its
own key.
That's awesome. That's amazing.
And, you know, that key, it feels so cocky
because it is not nearly as rubbed off as
any of the others.
Did you know the French, didn't have a word for French
kissing until 2013.
Did they?
No, they didn't.
Did they not?
No.
What did they say when
they were like, oh, let's do the
put my butt in your face thing?
I believe, well, look, they
don't, like fish don't need a word for water,
you know?
Like,
I believe
that what I've found is that they had phrases
like kissing at length in the mouth.
Which is so sexy.
But they've changed it to galoshé, which is a word that also means an ice skating boot.
So the idea is that you're kind of sliding around.
What?
Don't shoot the messenger.
The word to kiss is actually another disaster for the French.
They have seven different ways of saying to kiss, as in just a peck on the cheek, depending on where you're from.
So like, Fé la Biz, Béget, and then there's one which is best.
which I think in Belgium
means kiss and comes from
the origin kiss and in like the
30s you would have used it to mean kiss but now
means very explicitly to
have sex with but if like that
word starts with an F and
but if you come from Belgium and you just
say that like give me a kiss then
someone books a motel
room for now
do you know you're allowed to say the word fuck
in Canada on the radio
in Canada we got some Canadian
fuckers in tonight
In Canada, you're allowed to say the word fuck on the radio
as long as you're on a French language station.
And the reason is, because they think the French speakers
don't have the same connotation of the word as English speakers.
Ah.
Isn't that interesting?
Just coincidentally, with that word,
I was looking into, in China,
they have a lot of censorship, obviously,
from the government about what words they can use,
particularly online.
And one of the things that you can't say are swear words.
And so they've managed to get by that
by using fuck, the English word,
but using Chinese words
to sort of use that to appropriate it.
So, what they'll say on Chinese,
on a Chinese website,
is, Fah Kew.
So,
wait.
So, Fah Kew,
you.
Yeah, yeah, we got that.
Yeah, thanks, mate.
Yeah, Fah Kou, too.
That doesn't, that's not Chinese word, too.
Great, thank you.
Okay, yeah.
But what does that, what does that mean?
Oh, well, it literally translates as French, Croatian,
squid, which is a mythical creature in China, a squid that was simultaneously found in both France
and Croatia.
And they thought, we'll call it, fucker you, because hence that.
So, yeah, that's how they get by it.
What are you talking about this mythical squid?
The French Croatian squid.
Do you want to hear some French phrases and just see if you can get what they mean?
Let's do it.
So, uh, au re um, pet de travert.
you're farting sideways.
Farting sideways.
It means that
you're not doing anything right.
You're doing something really simple
that normal people will be able to do, but you're
doing it sideways.
That's much better. It just means you're grumpy.
Oh.
Okay.
All right, all right, all right.
This is like pissing in a violin.
This is like pissing in violin.
Is it something to do with bringing musical instruments
onto a plane?
Yes.
You need a lot to fill up a cello.
It's like, this is fun, but I feel like there's strings attached.
I've got my penis out, and I feel like I need a fiddle.
Yeah.
These are all much better than the realtor.
End this.
End this.
It just means something's useless.
Just useless.
There's no point to this.
This is like pissing at a violin.
Oh.
Well, if you need the toilet.
I think it's because it's got holes in it.
No?
No, no, no.
No.
Anna's right.
If you, in extremists,
and you've got a lot of violins spare.
You only need one.
It depends how fully bladder is, but two, max,
I would have thought.
This is why they had a revolution.
Louis XIV.
Kept wasting priceless Stradivarius.
The French do really protect their language.
This academy really shows that.
There's a rule that I think they're going a bit lax on now in France
and sort of talking about it,
but on radio, 40% of all music needs to be French.
Yes.
That's the thing.
But this other thing.
thing that I discovered is that at the Olympics
there is someone who is hired
specifically from the French side
to go around all the events of the Olympics
to make sure there's enough French
going on in them.
Okay, what do you mean by that?
They go to the javelin and they make
sure what person's throwing a baguette.
It's all to do with language.
The language needs to be the commentary
needs to do it. If there's a sign to the toilet
it needs to say, you know,
Piseééé de de la Céééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééé
law.
And the person
whose job it is for every Olympics
to do that is called the Great Witness.
And the Great Witness goes around
going, not enough French, not enough French,
because it's the official language. English and French
are the official Olympic languages.
I've never heard Olympic commentary and heard them shout
out French words.
You don't hear that.
It's all in English.
I mean, being a prostitute is not an event in the Olympics.
French didn't get the way on that one.
Should we move on to our next act?
I think we should.
Okay, it is time for fact number three, and that is Andy.
My fact is that there is a gravity measuring device in Maryland
so sensitive that it can tell whether or not the scientists working on it
have had lunch.
I can already tell if I've had lunch.
Don't even need this thing.
No, you're right.
Well, that's several million dollars.
They have really chucked away.
Um, okay.
This is an amazing thing.
So this is NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.
It's in Maryland.
And they have built a machine that...
What?
I can't tell if the place is the punchline,
or my pronunciation of it is the punchline.
Say it again, and let's see when they laugh.
Guys, fuck you.
I don't ask you to pronounce left.
and chumly and all these weird English words.
Right, so in Maryland, there is a machine
that says it's just written there, it's just Maryland,
right, great.
Can we plow on?
You know, it's got to be out my night.
I can't read anything out anymore.
I'm too nervous.
Look, it doesn't matter where it is.
The location is not important of the machine.
It's in a merri-law.
So it uses quantum mechanics.
There are 100 billion cesium atoms in a column
and it times how quickly these individual atoms
fall from the top to the bottom.
Wow.
And basically it weighs nearby material.
And the scientists noticed they were getting different readings
when they came back after lunch to this machine
than when they did it before,
than when they were working on it before.
So it was sort of the most expensive fat-shaming device in history.
Yeah.
It's an incredible thing.
The reason it is useful is not just because it can tell you if you've had lunch.
But they want to put it in space.
There are already a couple of amazing gravity-sensing satellites in space.
But this one is 10 times better than the existing ones.
And what it means is that you can point it at individual places
and you can measure the size of a glacier.
And you can say that glassier shrunk by that much
because the gravity has altered around it.
Or you can observe changes in aquifer levels, even underground.
Like it's insane stuff.
That's incredible.
Because glaciers are changing the weight of the world, aren't they?
Constantly melting glaciers.
So England and Scotland, or England and Wales versus Scotland,
are on a seesaw right now with each other because of glacial melting.
So basically this weird thing happens where as glaciers melts,
which is happening a bit more due to suppose climate change.
Hannah.
You've got to play to your audience.
Yeah, play to the coast.
Yeah.
I don't mean that.
But basically Scotland,
which is much colder,
used to have a huge weight of glacial ice,
which has been melting over tens of thousands of years.
And so as it melts, the water dissipates
and Scotland's losing weight,
whereas comparatively, England, getting a bit fatter, comparatively.
And so England is sort of sinking.
So it's like a very gradual seesaw,
a very boring seesaw,
where if you're at the Scotland end,
you're on your way up.
At the England end, you're on your way down.
Oh, well.
And at some point, I think we should just jump off the seesaw.
and give Scotland a broken coxics
what I'm saying
what a difficult child you must have been
on these kind of measuring devices
that are really really sensitive
there are seismograph stations
at Yellowstone
that can measure the flushing of toilets
at the old faithful inn
that's amazing
they're trying to get the geysers
and they see something on the scale
and it's actually someone flushing the toilet
Wow. That's insane.
I would feel like my privacy had been violated
if I used the toilets at the...
At the old faithful inn.
The old faithful inn.
Yeah.
And I knew that a scientist was watching that and judging.
They're not watching.
I've misunderstood.
I bet they read you through to their scientist mate,
outside the old faithful,
to point at the guy leaving the loo and be like,
we know what you've done.
I was just looking at weighing things.
And so do you guys know the first person to weigh the world?
was...
Oh, sorry, yeah, take a guess.
Is it someone ancient Greek or...
No, no, it wasn't actually. So Newton told us
how we could weigh the world.
But he didn't bother doing it.
And 100 years later, Henry Cavendish, signed as Henry Cavendish,
decided to try and wait the world. And the way
you can do it, basically, he did it by...
So he knew that objects with larger mass
will attract objects with smaller mass.
And even if you're on earth, if you've got a big lead ball,
and you suspend a little lead ball next to it,
it will very, very slightly be attracted to it.
And basically because of the gravity equation
that Newton worked out,
if you can measure exactly how much
that little lead ball moves towards the big one,
you can work out the mass of the earth.
So he weighed the earth.
It was pretty amazing.
He came within, just by balancing two lead balls together,
he came within 1% of what we know the earth weighs today.
Wow.
But he was a real weirdo.
So he was terrified of women.
Henry Cavendish, he'd never addressed strangers directly
because he was cripplingly shy.
He had, so he had a house and servants,
but he had a private staircase built in the back of himself,
of his hat or not of himself.
No wonder he didn't like strangers
if they're climbing up the back of him all the time.
He had a private staircase built on the back of his house
for himself because he was so terrified
of meeting servants on the stairs.
And he actually, he was a really smart guy,
and he went to Cambridge,
and his final oral exams that he had to take
to pass his degree, his natural philosophy degree,
he just dropped out altogether
because he was so terrified of talking in public
in this oral exam, didn't get his degree.
He was insane.
When he got introduced to people, sort of at gatherings,
his famous scientist, he'd be introduced,
and sometimes he used to just be introduced,
turn away, turn his back on the person,
and sprint out of the room as fast as he could
and hail the nearest carriage
and just gallop off into the sunset.
Wow.
Do you guys know, just on gravity,
Do you know that people have a phobia of gravity?
There's a word for that.
Okay.
Is that people who are scared of that they might fall over?
Yeah, there's different versions of their fear.
So it's called baraphobia.
So one thing is that their fear is that gravity will get really strong
and just crush them all of a sudden.
Well, I wasn't scared about that until now.
Yeah.
So just a sudden change in the universe and we'll all just go squat.
And then the second one...
I think it would be.
be quite funny for a few minutes.
Yeah.
Everyone walking around.
Yeah.
The other version is that you're on a high place and gravity suddenly pulls you off.
So that's a sort of fear of falling, basically.
Yeah.
And then the third one is that gravity kind of just goes away and we all just float away
like a horse on a hot air balloon.
And these are genuine fears that people have.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hey, I was reading, so obviously the best example that we have of understanding how gravity works
for humans who aren't on planets or astronauts or astronauts.
and how it plays with the body and so on.
And so I was reading that the bladder of humans
is a really interesting thing when you go to space
because we don't know.
Because everything's floating around,
astronauts don't know that they need to go to the toilet.
They have no idea.
So they've been told...
Well, it must become obvious at some stage.
Yes.
So John Glenn, when he was up there,
it became obvious when his bladder
had a full 27 ounces in there.
That's seven ounces more than a bladder is meant to take.
so he was expanding basically with urine
and the problem is
that when it gets too full the uretha gets covered
so it's a problem with actually peeing
so astronauts just have to go every two hours regardless
just to get rid of the urine
sorry there was a bit in there that I didn't quite understand
yeah your urethra gets covered
yes by urine
I didn't read the whole article
but
and yet that's the bit
that I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night
remembering
You can't need to go too much to go.
Yeah.
That's not because the urine is blocking off the entrance to your...
The urine hasn't solidified at the entrance
and then stop the rest of the urine getting through.
I assume not until Dan said that.
But this is...
So if we ever get to Mars and live on Mars,
that will be a problem for the people who grow up on Mars
because gravity is much lighter there.
So they will probably be taller.
But when they come back to Earth, if they ever do,
they will not be able to get out of bed
because the gravity is three times stronger.
Oh, right. So it's like
is it Superman who comes to Earth
and then the gravity is different on his planet to our planet
and so that means he can fly around? Is that right?
Is that why he can fly?
Yeah.
According to one person in the audience
who I am going to believe.
The original mythology was that he could leap
a building in a single bound. That was the thing
because they couldn't quite work out with the movies
and the animation how to make him fly
and then they worked that out and then it turned into
Okay, is that because the gravity is so strong on his planet
that he's developed incredibly strong legs to counteract it
so he can leap really easily.
I think that is true.
But the thing is about humans.
No, no, no, no.
Is everyone on his planet just walking around normally?
Well, I think his planet got destroyed.
I don't really know anything about it.
Andy, Krypton's no longer, I'm afraid.
Oh, man, that's it really.
Anyway, back to the real world.
The amount that humans can manage on
other planets about depending on
how big their gravity is, people have looked
into that. That was such a strange sentence
I'm going to start again. So
scientists have looked on other
planets that have more gravity and try to
work out how much we would be able to manage.
And they've looked at that by seeing
how much people can squat
and what they can lift when they're squatting.
And they reckon the absolute
maximum that anyone will be able to do is
4.6 times
of our gravity. If you couldn't do that,
you wouldn't have enough strength to even lift
your legs to walk around the planet.
And the way that they found that out is by looking at a guy called
Hathor Julius Bjornson,
who was also Sir Gregor the Mountain Clagane from Game of Thrones.
Oh, cool.
And he has the world record for squat lifts.
He was the world's strongest man, and he did that this year.
And they worked out how much the gravity would they be able to work
so that the mountain would be able to walk.
And it's 4.6 times.
So if it was Dan's world
where gravity suddenly got really, really strong
and we all got squashed,
if it was 4.6 times,
he would be the only person
able to walk on the whole planet.
Wow.
That's the TV series I would watch.
It's just Gregor Cleggain
walking around a load of pancake people.
Okay, it's time for our final fact of the show,
and that is my fact.
My fact this week is that
the pirate who mentored Blackbeard
Once attacked a ship purely to steal all of the hats of everyone on board
because his crew had drunkenly thrown all of their own hats overboard the night before.
So this is a guy called Benjamin Hornagold, and he was a pirate.
Can I just say horny gold is a great name for a pirate, isn't it?
Yeah, Hornie Gold.
It's the two things he's after in life.
That's true.
Is it horny first name, surname, gold, middle name four?
I'm haunted for gold
Yeah
Yeah
No, it's not
Okay
So Benjamin
Let's just call them Benjamin
No so this was in the 1700
1717 and basically
They had this massive night out on their ship
They threw their hats on
You know into the ocean
Just as lads lads, yeah
And so
And we know about this
Because we have reports from the ship that was
Robbed and basically
terrifying a bunch of pirates come on
And they said please don't hurt us
And they went, okay, cool, can we have your hats?
Took the hat and left.
There was money on there.
There was everything on there.
They didn't need it.
And yeah, so this was Blackbeard's mentor.
Blackbeard was his second in command for many, many years.
Yeah.
It's weird to think of pirates having mentors.
You sort of assigned an older pirate student to look after you through your early years.
Yeah.
So Blackbeard, so did he teach Blackbeard all of his trademark shit?
Like Blackbeard was very famous for having...
sort of fireworks sewn into his hair, wasn't he?
He had this huge head of black hair
full of fireworks to scare people
and...
So he did, sorry, because you're mowing over that as a fact
that was a crazy thing that he did.
This was a pirate who put fireworks in his head
as he was robbing people
and he didn't have, he had a beard,
like fire hazards are everywhere in that situation.
Yeah.
And that's how he scared people.
It is, although no record of him ever killing anyone.
I don't think.
But he just, yeah, he sort of ruled by fear.
And in fact, I think the reason that we romanticize pirates
is because of this thing that was written in 1724,
a general history of the robberies and murders
of the most notorious pirates.
And this described black beard,
and it said his beard was black, extravagant length,
as to breadth, it came up to his eyes.
Which I didn't even know beers could do that.
And he was, I don't know how you grow it that way.
And he was accustomed to twist it with ribbons in small tails
and turn them about his ears,
which suddenly sounds actually much less threatening.
Yeah.
It sounds like his mentor is just there doing pig tail.
Yeah, he, just to go back to Hornigold for a second.
Hornigold, do you know how he was got rid of from his ship?
He got voted out by his crew.
Right.
Really? Like X Factor.
Yes.
It was quite placid.
So he didn't want to attack British ships.
and his crew said,
look, we're missing a lot of opportunities here,
and they deposed him in a vote,
and then he was just a passenger on board their ship.
As they were going around attacking other people,
he was sitting in the brick going,
well, I wouldn't do it this way if I were you,
but, you know, we've had a vote, and fine.
People do use pirates as a good example of early democracy,
because they were weirdly egalitarian,
and, yeah, they had this democratic system,
and there was quite a lot of equality,
income equality or like spoils equality, pillage equality, whatever, on board.
So, you know, the lowest mate didn't really earn very much less than the captain.
And it was basically to prevent yourself being overthrown, literally thrown over.
They had compensation as well.
If you had an injury at work, you would be compensated.
There's a list.
We have numbers.
If you lost a right arm, you'd get 600 pieces of silver.
If you lost the left arm, you'd get 500 pieces.
So much more important to lose that one if you're looking for money.
if you lost your right leg
You got 500
Lost left leg 400
Lost either eye same amount
Lost a finger 100
Like there was
Every bit of your body had compensation
Well and also
And this is where I think
The real scammers would come in
In this health insurance system
If you lost a leg
And then you
After that lost your peg leg
Then you got the same amount of compensation again
Oh
There's a loophole of
Have ye been in an accident at work
That was not your fault
Although Robert Louis Stevenson made up almost everything
He made up Chivv in my timbers
He made up the song
15 men on the dead man's chest
One-legged pirates, parrots
It's all made up
Parrots
I have some evidence that pirates and parrots
Did hang out together
So the
You had an emotional support parrot
Yeah
So the biggest pirate strong of
was Port Royal in Jamaica.
And actually, so this was in the 1600s,
and it was being fought over between the English and Spanish.
But it was the second largest
European city in the new world.
So it was second only to Boston, Port Royal.
And pirates controlled it.
And it was a great laugh.
So a quarter of the buildings were bars or brothels.
It didn't matter as frat boy kind of drinking culture.
So the pirates used to dump a massive fat of alcohol on the street
and force all passes by to drink from it.
Wow.
Apparently it was great.
Great fun. And apparently, according to a Dutch explorer who visited, he said that the parrots drank as much as the pirates there. He said the parrots gathered a drink from the large stops of ale with just as much alacrity as the drunks that frequent it.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
So funny.
Another place that's associated with pirates is Pittsburgh.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
This is a sporting thing.
Yes?
It is.
Yeah.
Well done.
Yeah.
So they're Pittsburgh pirates.
They weren't always called the Pittsburgh Pirates.
They were originally known as the Pittsburgh,
and I'm going to let you try and read this.
Oh, God knows.
It's a mountain range.
Alleghenies?
Alleghenies.
Oh.
All right.
You'd game yourself.
So they were the Pittsburgh Alleghenies.
And they got renamed.
In 1880, they stole away a second baseman
from another team,
and they got cold in one of the...
the newspapers a bunch of pirates
and they took the name from that
and that's how they got called the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Allegedly, right? Allegedly
Yeah, yeah. Allegedly.
No, no, no. It was...
Got it. Yeah, that was drunk.
Have you... No, sorry. I only want to say
because the reason I brought this up is because I have a fact
about the Pittsburgh Pirates, which I really want to
say, because I want to know if you guys have heard this, this is amazing.
So the Pittsburgh Pirates
had a scandal in 1985
when it turned out that some of their team
had been buying cocaine from a giant
parrot.
Whoa.
So, I can think of two ways
that is. Either a giant
parrot, which has been trained as a
mule. Yes.
Or a team mascot
who is unbelievably brazen
about the way he sells his drugs.
You're absolutely right. It's the second one.
Yeah, they have this giant parrot
mascot and he was kind of taken
the cocaine from the street and giving it to the players.
Wow, cool. And it wasn't
an actual parrot. It was a human.
was a human in a parrot suit, yeah, sorry.
That's a bit obvious in an alleyway when there's a giant...
You'd never suspect a guy in a parrot suit.
Yeah, but if you're buying drugs,
and then some guy in a massive parrot suit comes up to you,
I think you're...
I'd be like, these drugs are fucking working.
Wow.
Polly wants some crack.
Can we wrap up?
We can wrap up.
Yeah, okay, that is it.
That is all of our facts.
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