No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As An Orange Crocodile
Episode Date: December 1, 2017Live from Nottingham, Dan, James, Anna and Andy discuss green robins, Lenin’s unexpected accent and the Nottingham cheese riots. ...
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To another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast this week coming to you from Norigo.
My name is Dan Schreiber, and I am sitting here with Anna Chazinsky, Drew Hunter Murray, and James Harkin, and once again we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days, and in no particular order, here we go.
Starting with you, James Harkin.
Okay, my fact this week is that in 1760,
there was a cheese riot in Nottingham
where the mayor of Nottingham
was knocked over by a large cheese.
So was the cheese rioting?
How did that work?
So what it was is, I mean,
I'm preaching to people
who know all about this in Nottingham, I'm sure.
But this was a goose fare.
You all know what the goose fair is, right?
And basically, things became
tense when some rude lads engaged several
Lincolnshire traders who had purchased up to 60 hundred of cheese.
These aren't my words, by the way, I'm reading.
And basically, what they didn't want to happen
is that those nasty people from Lincolnshire come and get all the cheese,
and then there's no cheese for people from Nottingham.
So then that kind of started a bit of a riot,
and then suddenly there were crowds running around,
they were grabbing cheeses and rolling them down the streets.
So they're not like little baby bells
or slices of cheese like you get now
They're big wheels of cheese, right?
Although if you released a lot of baby bells
That could knock someone over underfoot
By making the ground slippery on the legs
Sure, yeah
I haven't thought about this before
But I feel as if I have
And basically after that
Everything kind of kicked off
So a load of people went down the river trents
To search for warehouses
Looking for more cheese
The next day a guy was shot by a soldier
he was trying to defend his cheese.
Come on, I still think too soon, actually, for that.
But actually, the soldiers were on his side.
It was like a friendly fire thing.
And then the whole thing came to an end
when the mob tried and failed
to burn down a windmill.
Ah.
And the mayor himself,
a cheese, what, rolled towards him
and he couldn't run away in time.
He was coming to try and calm things down
and basically someone chucked a cheese at him.
Right.
Oh, chucked a cheese.
Okay, cool.
And it knocks.
him over?
Knocked him over, mate.
Was he quite a small man?
Sounds like he was a small man.
I don't know how big he was.
It was the olden days.
They were all small.
They were all small, yeah, yeah.
So maybe baby bells were massive to them.
It is an amazing bit of history,
which I'd never heard of before.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you guys already know about the cheese riot?
Yeah, you see.
Wait, wait, did anyone not know about the cheese riot?
Yeah.
Ah, you see.
That's better.
And the cheese riot guys were lying, I think.
Nottingham's got some cool food history
So did you know that you guys have
The Bramley Apple
Great Grandfather
And a bunch of Japanese tourists I think
Came to Nottingham about five years ago
To visit it, didn't they?
Because so this is the one Bramley apple tree
In Nottingham from which every single Bramley Apple comes
And it's so popular now
That variety of apple in Japan
That the mayor of a town in Japan
And all the people from his town
Flew over and visited it a few years ago
from his town. A few.
They charted 60 planes.
A percentage of the people.
I have a couple of cheese facts.
Oh yeah.
Historical cheese facts.
Go on.
So the first Eurovision was a cheese competition, in a sense.
And the phrase, in a sense, is doing a lot of work in that sentence.
But there was a massive, after Napoleon was defeated in 1815, there was a massive, you know,
Congress.
It was called the Congress of Vienna.
and it was working out the terms for all the nations in Europe
and the terms of France's surrender.
And Talleyrand, one of the ministers there,
he said, why don't we lighten things up with a cheese competition?
And every nation submitted their own cheeses.
Who won?
They all voted for their own cheeses.
So that's how it was like Eurovision, right?
They did give France a special award for debris,
but they basically all said,
we think our cheese is best.
I think of Nottingham sort of anything,
is that cheese contest don't lighten things up.
No.
and they actually make things turn pretty ugly.
I always, there's a sort of famous fact
that the Dutch once killed and ate their prime minister in a riot.
So this is my favorite riot, I think.
Sorry, this famous fact is famous amongst people like us, isn't it?
Yeah, I'm actually, maybe it's not famous outside of this stage.
Yeah, there's a fact that my favorite riot
is that the Dutch once killed and ate their prime minister.
And this is in the 1600s, wasn't it?
And I always like that they ate their prime minister
in order to replace him with an orange.
So this is when the Orange dynasty came in.
Oh, right.
Not an actual orange, yeah, sorry.
Because that would have been so crazy
because they should have just eaten the orange.
Exactly.
But that's kind of what it implies anyway.
Eat William of Orange and leave poor Johann DeWitt,
who doesn't even have a name who sounds like food,
to rule the country.
Just quickly, this is the first time I've been to Nottingham.
I was unbelievably excited to discover
that you guys have a sheriff still.
I mean, that is...
That's so cool.
and I didn't know this, looking into him,
he was born on Robin Hood Street.
The current sheriff of Nottingham
was born on Robin Hood Street.
Another Nottingham fact, you have a lot of caves here.
The Truglandites are in!
There are over 700 caves under the streets of Nottingham,
and the man who's in charge of cataloguing them,
he had to have confined space training
before he could do his job,
and his name is Mr Dave Strange Walker.
Awesome.
I have another fact about cheese and caves.
No.
Yes, genuinely.
So in the 1980s, America had a 30 million pound stockpile of cheese in a cave.
There was a massive cheese surplus in America
because they had overproduced it,
and they stored it all in caves in Missouri.
By 1983, it was worth $4 billion.
Four billion dollars.
And the thing is, it's still happening.
there's still a massive dairy surplus in America,
and there's this shadowy body called dairy management,
which is desperate to get...
Are they big cheese?
They're big cheese.
They're genuinely are there?
So, for example, they're constantly trying to push more cheese onto people.
So, for example, they help Domino's, the pizza company,
develop a line of pizzas which had 40% more cheese.
And then they lobbied McDonald's,
and they said, why don't you put more cheese on the cheeseburgers?
Go on.
That's amazing.
The first time the word mammoth was used to describe something big was about a cheese.
Really?
Was it?
Prior to the actual mammoth, it was a description of a cheese.
Well, actually, they called the mammoth's mammoths, whether they were big or not.
So even if you had a small mammoth, it was still called a mammoth.
Yeah, yeah.
But they never before had referred to a mammoth-mammoth until they referred to a mammoth cheese, is what James is saying.
So the word mammoth meaning, this is massive.
Yeah.
That was a cheese first.
That was a cheese first.
Yeah.
And then they saw a mammoth, and they're like, that's like that cheese we saw.
You've sort of got the idea.
It was the famous cheese.
You know about it, Anna, don't you?
Yeah, I think we've talked about it.
It was the presidential cheese, right?
Which president was it that it was given to?
It was Jefferson that was given to.
Yeah.
And what it was is, at the time, they just found mastodon skeletons in America in the far west.
And they didn't know.
They thought maybe there were massive mammoths living over there.
So it was a big kind of mammoth frenzy in America at the time.
and then they also gave him this cheese and thought,
what does that remind us of?
Those things that don't exist.
Of course.
I have a favourite animal-related riot.
Okay.
Do you guys know about the eel-pulling riot?
No.
This was in 1886 in Amsterdam,
and there used to be this tradition
where you'd hang an eel.
I don't even know what it was suspended of above,
but you'd hang an eel above the canals in Amsterdam,
and it would be a live eel,
and it would be writhing around.
And the point was you had to say,
nail under it on your boat or motor, not motor on it, under it probably, but go under it on
your boat. And you had to jump up and try and catch the eel. And most people fell in the water
and it was quite comical and it sounds quite fun. And it was banned because it was deemed cruel
to animals, which is very forward thinking for the 1886 people. And people were so angry
about the crackdown because they loved eel pulling so much that they completely rioted.
And 26 people were killed in 1886 in Amsterdam because they demanded to have the eel pulling.
but the eel survived apparently.
That's incredible.
Have you guys heard about the police riots?
This is a thing that happened in New York in the 1850s.
These are so cool.
There was a time in the 1850s in New York
where there were two rival police forces in New York,
what could go wrong?
Everything went wrong.
The state had created a police force
and that was an official one,
but the mayor, who was from the other political party,
had his own police force already established
and the state was trying to take over it.
And what they started doing, the two forces,
they started stealing criminals from each other.
So they would arrest someone
and then the other police would turn up and say,
we're having him,
and then the police would start beating each other up
to try and arrest the criminal.
But then presumably they have to arrest each other
for beating each other up.
And then the whole thing eventually ended up
in a massive brawl between 850 police officers.
Whoa.
All the way through the city hall.
Wow.
Yeah.
You know, Toronto was shaped by...
Toronto policing was shaped by a riot
between clowns and firemen.
so
well there was this riot in 1855
when clowns were a bit more hardcore
and it took place in a brothel
as I think quite a lot of riots did
were the clowns in the brothel
they were all in the brothel
they'd taken their noses off
it was they weren't on the job at the time
they were on a job but they weren't on the job
and they
I'm afraid it'll be extra to smell your flower
sir
ooh
big feet you know how that
So that happened, then the firefighters turned up.
And then this fight broke out.
I don't know what was a rivalry over,
but the firefighters just started on the clowns.
Maybe the clowns had just come to town,
so they were using their prostitutes, maybe.
And this huge fight broke out,
and a policeman came to break up the whole Malay,
and it ended up with a lot of people being really badly injured.
And I think actually they went and met again a couple of days later,
so they established this rivalry,
like the Jets and the Sharks and West Side Story.
And so they agreed to meet a couple of days later
and the clowns and the firemen met again.
And then a fight started
because a fireman knocked a hat off a clown's head
and everyone got wounded
and because of that,
the police force was regulated
and rules were introduced as to how you put down a riot
and how you don't let things get out of hand
and those rules still remain today.
Do you know what the good thing about arresting a bunch of clowns is
you don't need as many police cars
because you can...
At least 20 into each.
Okay, time for fact number two,
and that is Andrew Hunter Murray.
My fact is that Baby Robbins
sometimes eat so many caterpillars,
they turn green.
This happens.
There's a new book out called The Robin a biography
by a guy called Stephen Moss appropriate.
They turn green.
Oh, yeah.
You know what else is green?
Yeah, yeah.
Moss is green.
I've made.
It can be like brown sometimes.
Yeah.
Well, they turn green
because they eat a lot of caterpillars
and the caterpillars are green
and so they just change colour.
Not all caterpillars are green.
Do they turn whatever colour the caterpillar is?
This fact has been pedanted to death.
I'll bring you a good fact about robins
turning green.
Is it just the breast that goes green
or is it the whole robin?
Don't know.
Wait, you didn't even look at a photo.
of your fags.
It's very hard to find a photo of a green robin.
Suspicious.
Very suspicious.
Although baby robins don't have red breasts, do they?
So red breasts are the sign that you're ready to fight.
So I think robins are really famous for being very pugnacious, aren't they?
You know, anyone comes near their territory.
They sing that beautiful song, which means get the fuck out of here.
And they have that big red breast, which means get the fuck out of here.
And so baby robins for their first sort of year, they don't have red breasts
because that's sort of an invitation to fight.
It's something you display when you're ready.
to, you know, get in the boxing ring.
Yeah, it's true because Robbins will attack anything that's red,
won't they?
If you just give them a little bit of red cloth or something,
like a tiniest bullfighter.
That's so cool.
Do they really?
Yeah, they do.
OLE!
They do die so much.
They murder each other a lot.
They'll peck each other at the base of the skull
to break each other's spinal cords.
They're vicious bastards.
Wow. Yeah, they are.
I don't know this.
Red breast, Robin, Red breast.
breast, red breast is their surname.
Well, explain yourself.
So, okay, in the 16th century,
and in the 15th century, sorry, in the 15th century,
they used to give human names to familiar species.
So it was a red breast, but then they would be like,
Robin, how you doing?
So Robin Red Breast was a surname.
And Red Breast, it shouldn't be Red Breast,
it should be Robin Orange Breast because they have orange breast,
but...
Wait, you haven't, sorry, you just befuddled us
with changing red to orange and going down
that line. So are you saying that they used to call birds by human names? Yeah, that is true,
actually. Like, I think one of them's Mavis, isn't it? Like, is it a Thrush or something? They call
Mavis in the old days, yeah. And Robin is the only Christian human name that's stuck around
in the species name. I think that is right. Robin Red Breast? Mavis Thrush. That was how...
But then what you're saying, actually, the other bit is quite true as well, which is that they
don't have red breasts, are they? They have orange breasts, but back then in the 15th century,
we didn't have the word red
amazingly, we just didn't have the word
so they said that's
that's orange because that's what they associated as
they lumped into... We didn't have the word
orange
that's why we called them red
because we did have the word
red
usually I can save that in the edit
but I think it might have been
yeah no so the opposite of what I said
is true
and
you know they were
They measure the size of the red slash orange part of Robin's breast
because scientists wanted to know whether they grow or shrink
or whether they're particularly big when they're trying to mate.
And do you know how they do this?
It's kind of sweet.
So this was a study in Spain that was done a couple of years ago
and they catch the Robbins and in the study report it said
we placed it gently on its back on a table.
And I imagine then tied it down
because I don't think a Robin lies on its back on a table unless you do.
And then they get a bit of truce.
tracing paper and they just put it around the front of the Robin and they trace around the red
bit through it and then they measured all the bits and they deduce the male red breasts get bigger
with age and females don't. So that's basic science. You could do that in science class.
That's really cool. Yeah. Do you know Robbins go through puberty every year?
Every year. Every year. Imagine that. Wow. So towards a summer when the days get longer,
their brains get flooded with hormones. Their gonads grow.
and the males start learning songs
to kind of attract women, not women.
Sorry, I was going back to my own.
It's going to happen.
And then in the winter, they go back down again.
They're going to shrink,
and their hormones flush out of their system.
And then every summer, they get this puberty.
God. It's amazing that, isn't it?
I mean, women get that once a month,
so my sympathy doesn't extend too far,
but they'll nest anywhere, apparently.
So they'll pick any nesting site.
And I was reading a bit of a review of a book in The Telegraph about Robbins
that listed a series of nesting sites that they'd made.
So plant pots, a pigeonhole in a desk,
the engine of a World War II plane in the body of a dead cat.
Well, that took a real turn, Anna.
That was really sweet.
Right till the end.
That's sweet revenge, I think.
and then there was one that made its nest on an unmade bed
while the bed's owner was downstairs having breakfast
and the owner came upstairs again and thought,
that's sweet, and allowed it to nest there and incubate its eggs.
And it didn't tell me this article
what the owner slept on for the subsequent however long it takes.
I think he slept in a dead cat.
I was looking at what would happen
whether caterpillars can change colour from eating things.
I just thought there might be something out there.
and I found a paper on the internet
called The Effects of Blue Dye
in the Food of Caterpillar Species
Vanessa Carduai.
I couldn't quite find out which paper this was from
but it's genuinely there
and they said our experiment had lots of problems
first we did not record all our results correctly
so what they wanted to do
they wanted to check whether the caterpillars
when they had the blue dye
whether they'd be blue when they became butterflies
so first I did not record
all of those results correctly.
Next, we miscalculated the number of dead butterflies
in each group.
Then we mixed up all the labels.
Next, some of our butterflies fell off their cups.
And then one of our group members
knocked over the bin for the control group.
And then it said,
all of these mistakes affected our results in some way.
I read about a animal.
It's a really odd thing.
It's an cave-dwelling crocodile,
which crocodiles don't dwell.
in caves. So this was quite a big finding
and they were studying them for ages because they couldn't
work out why they were doing it. And the thing that
really stuck out about them was that they were bright
orange and crocodiles are not bright
orange. So they were like
oh that's two things we need to look at now
and the orange thing that they couldn't work
out for ages. It turns out that there were
bats living inside the cave and
they would poo into the cave
water where the crocodiles were
and these crocodiles were being dyed
orange by bat poo.
But it was like in the water and then the water
was dying. It was like going into like
one of those t-shirt tie-dye things.
And it was just, yeah, it just died them.
And so for a while we had this mysterious
orange crocodile, but it turns out
they're just covered in shit.
Have you guys seen waxwing
birds, like cedar wax wings?
So they're these birds that
they have really brightly colored
yellow tips on their tails
and on some of their feathers.
And so they've had this forever and ever
as long as we know. And then there's a cedar
wax wing that lives in North America.
which has this really bright yellow tip of its tail,
and in the last 50 years,
it's suddenly been turning red,
and this is because a bunch of Asian honeysuckle
has been brought into North America,
and it has these bright red berries,
and they eat these really, really red berries,
and it's changing the colour of them.
So the cedar wax wing is changing colour as a species
because it's eating all these red berries.
That is amazing.
What, an orange crocodile didn't do anything for you?
No, no, it was good.
I was just imagine if humans all started drinking sunny delight or something.
Yes.
Exactly.
And that happens.
It does happen.
So babies sometimes turn orange if they have too much...
Is it carotene in the system?
Yeah, too many carrots, too much orange juice, and your baby will turn orange.
Yeah.
I just had a baby.
I do not want to see...
I feel an experiment coming on.
I just know what the report's going to read like afterwards.
Firstly, we mixed up all the babies.
Okay, it is time for fact number three, and that is my fact.
My fact this week is that the Russian communist leader Vladimir Lenin spoke with an Irish accent.
Okay.
Oh, the Russian communist leader Vladimir Lenin.
So I think we need to specify that this is not him speaking Russian in an Irish accent.
No, no, it's when he spoke English.
he was taught by an Irish tutor
and the way that he spoke, he just carried.
So whenever people spoke to him...
How do we know that this is true?
Like, is there a recording of him
like singing Danny Boy or something?
The Russians have admitted to it.
They said that this is...
It's not a crime to speak with an Irish accent, Dan.
It's weird because the Russians admit to so little
and yet they were willing to give it this way.
Yeah, I was a terrible investigative journalist
when I was going,
did you do the hacking? No.
Okay.
The accent thing?
Yes. Great.
I'm out of here.
No, he was taught, we also know it because H.G. Wells met him.
And they had a conversation and he came away going,
that was the weirdest conversation because I was talking to an Irishman,
but it was Russian communist leader.
Vladimir, what's his name?
Lenin.
But apparently Lenin spoke with what's called a Rathmines accent.
And Rathmines, apparently, I've never heard of it,
is in particular area of Dublin.
And he had an accent from this area.
and it meant that not only would people in England have struggled to understand him,
but people in Ireland would have struggled to understand it.
Did you guys know that the posh, you know the posh American accent
that's in all the Hollywood films of the 20s and 30s,
like the Catherine Hepburn classic,
I can't impersonate it, but like imagine Catherine Hepburn in a film
or Bet Davis or someone, that posh American accent is not an accent.
So no one real had that accent.
that was an accent that was created for Hollywood.
So that kind of American English hybrid
of the 20s, 30s, 40s,
and then it was suddenly phased out in the 50s
when they thought this was a bit weird,
was they got accent coaches in
to train people to speak like that,
and they thought it would make them sound more educated
because it had that English vibe.
And the only people who spoke with that voice
were Hollywood actresses and actors.
That is amazing.
It's weird, isn't it?
Really weird.
Yeah.
Is that so, as in, when you're...
then heard their real voice in real life.
It was completely different.
Yeah. I mean, I think they got voice coaches
to teach them how to just speak like that normally.
But yeah.
I read Eva Green. Do you remember she was the
she was in the Casino Royale
reboot with Daniel Craig, James Bond?
She's French.
And when she did all the interview, and I didn't know
that when I saw the movie because she
did it with a British accent, but in
the interviews, she thought
that people are just going to be so bothered by
the fact that I have a French accent.
she did all her publicity in the English accent
that she did in the movie really, really convincing.
Yeah, you wouldn't know.
Did you notice in Bond?
Well, no, I was the same with Dick Van Dyke, actually.
Yeah.
Poor Dick Van Dyke.
Last year, he apologized for the accent for the first time ever.
Oh, I'm terribly sorry, no, he, by the way,
he was in the news a few years ago because he...
Oh, you love Dick Van Dyke.
Yeah, he fell asleep on his surfboard,
and he got carried out into the ocean.
Oh, his surfboard?
Yeah.
That is a relaxed surfer.
Yeah, and he woke up, and he was in the middle of the ocean,
and he was being carried by currents,
and he didn't know where he was,
and he said a bunch of porpoises came up,
and they guided him back to shore,
and otherwise we would have no more Dick Van Dyke.
He would have gone off into the ocean.
Guys, on accents.
Yeah.
Do you know, you know Paddy Ashtown,
former Lib Dem leader?
Do you know what his name was?
Patrick Ashtown?
Yeah, so his name is not a funny name.
His name is Jeremy, but he was Irish, and the reason we call him Paddy Ashtown is that he went to boarding school in England, and everyone called him Paddy because he had an Irish accent.
And he said, I just feel comfortable with Paddy now.
Isn't that bizarre?
And he, you know, openly embraced it, and I suppose it was a different time, but Paddy Ashdown is Jeremy Ashdown, were it not for xenophobia.
Wow.
Well, on that, so there was a study in 2015
on the way people perceive different accents
because obviously there are dozens of accents all over the UK
and they have different perceptions that come with them.
There was a study that found,
of perceived intelligence that found that the Birmingham accent,
this is very unfair, but it found that the Birmingham accent
was so low-rated in the study
that it ranked worse than staying completely silent.
Do you remember how this fact was about Lenin?
Yeah.
Did you know, you know, Lenin's body is still hanging around, embalmed,
looking exactly like he does?
So Lenin's body is there,
but he was sort of the first instance of that kind of embalming
to make bodies, you know, look exactly like they have looked forever and ever.
So pre-mousy-tongue.
Yes, yeah, yeah, pre all of those.
And so now all other countries who want to embalm their great leaders,
like Ho Chi Minh, for instance,
and in North Korea, Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il,
they've all been embalmed,
and they get sent to Russia periodically
in order to be professionally maintained.
You're kidding.
Because they're so good at it.
They don't bring the people there.
They physically put it.
Apparently they get sent to Russia.
So I certainly know that
the Ho Chi Minh is sent to Russia
every few years to get maintained
because they're so good at keeping.
Imagine the Christmas party at that place
when you've got Ho Chi Minh there,
Lenin here.
There's a lot of good Instagram photos.
That's all I'm saying.
It's time to move on to our final fact of the evening, and that is Anna Tresensky.
Yes, my fact is that in Japan, if you make a mistake at work, you can hire someone to get told off by your boss, so you don't have to.
This is so weird.
I read this in this incredible article in the Atlantic, and it was interviewing someone who works for a company called Family Romance, and the idea is that you fill the gap.
in people's lives, people's personal lives,
people's lives generally that need filling.
And so in this instance,
he said he sometimes gets hired out
to people who are salarymen.
And in Japan, that's quite a big thing.
People work for big corporations.
It's quite faceless sometimes.
They don't necessarily know their bosses.
And then they make a massive mistake
and they're sent to the boss to get told off
and the boss doesn't know who they are.
And at this point, this man gets hired
and he has to go into the boss instead
and say, I'm so sorry, I did that.
How embarrassing.
And he says in this article, he says, you know, do you know how we apologize?
We have to get down on our hands and knees on the floor and really say, I'm so, so sorry
while the boss hulls abuse at us.
And he's paid to do this.
So the other person doesn't have to.
Is there ever a scenario where like five people are being told off, but that one guy's
been hired for every single?
And so he's like, you're crap, get out of here.
Send the next guy in.
Same guy comes back in.
A series of novelty hats.
Send him the guy with a sombrero outside.
I'm furious.
That interview is unbelievable, this firm family romance.
So the man who founded the company, his name is Ishi Yuichi,
and he is acting, his first success was playing a father for a girl who had a single mother,
and the mother wanted the girl to grow up with a father figure in her life.
So he has been playing the father of this girl for eight years.
She doesn't know it.
She doesn't know that this man is not her father.
And he says, if the client never reveals the truth,
I must continue the role indefinitely.
If the daughter gets married, I have to be a father in the wedding.
And then I have to be the grandfather.
And it's a gig for life he's got now.
He's committed to the job.
You've got to say that for him.
It is amazing.
I, yeah, Andy and I have read it and do read it.
But one other thing he does that I think is quite funny,
is that he is hired by wives to apologize to their husbands
for having an affair with the wife
when the real person who had an affair with the wife
has run away.
So when the husband finds out
that the wife's having an affair,
quite often the man,
the other guy says,
okay, well, I'm out of here.
And so she'll hire someone
to go and apologize to him,
and he says his tactic there
is that he goes pretending to be this man
who's been shagging the wife,
and he goes and he meets the husband,
and he bows very deeply,
and he apologises very profusely,
but also he dresses and acts like a yakuza
as in a Japanese gangster,
and so he says
the husband accepts the apology
quite quickly
because otherwise he may kill him
that's the technique there
but don't your coozer only have four fingers
he's a good actor
he can act only having four fingers
so there's another thing in Japan
Christian weddings are really popular
as in sort of white weddings
as we know them in Britain
and 99% of the Christian weddings
that they have there are fake
so if you're a Western
in Japan, it's often an easy acting gig
to pretend to be a priest for a couple of hours
conduct a wedding ceremony. You're not a priest.
You don't know any clerical rituals or anything like that.
They happen in a fake chapel.
And it's often just English teachers from the West
making a bit of money on the side.
Everyone kind of knows it's fake, but everyone goes along with it
because they like the ritual.
Wait, so people are getting married in the ceremony.
It's not legally binding, but it is what people do for their wedding.
So you would also have the kind of registry office thing.
I think you'd have a registry office thing,
but the actual, yeah, the sort of big ceremonial bit.
One account from one of these guys
who conducted, I think he said he conducted about 900 weddings
over the decades.
I know.
He recorded his first ever wedding rehearsal that he'd done
and he showed it to his wife, who I think was Japanese,
and she looked at him conducting a ceremony
and speaking in Japanese to the couple,
and she said, well, it was good,
but you made one big mistake.
Instead of saying, you may now exchange rings,
you said, put the ring in her crotch.
And so if you can't afford this guy to, when you're at work to be told off for you,
there's a cheaper version for about $65 equivalent, you can hire in Japan an attractive man
to come to your workplace and gently brush away your tears while you weep.
The company's called handsome weeping boys.
And also in China there's a big thing at the moment with like the Uber economy kind of thing.
So you can kind of get part-time use of washing machines, basketballs, umbrellas.
There was an umbrella-sharing company.
In fact, that's in our book, isn't it?
Yeah.
They lost all 300,000 umbrellas straight away when they rented them out
and forgot to put a tracking system on them and no one returned.
Actually, in China, there was the case this year of a man who got married, had his wedding,
and then was arrested because it turned out he'd hired two.
200 guests to pretend to be his friends at his wedding.
And apparently the bride and her family became suspicious
when none of them could explain how they knew him.
So they were obviously on a very low wage.
I think they were being paid the equivalent of £9 each.
So they hadn't been given a backstory or anything.
So the bride just came up and said,
how do you know this guy?
And they said, I don't know, I'm being paid to do this.
But, yeah, when he was arrested.
And the happy ending to that story is that he claimed he was 27.
and it turned out he was 20.
And in China, I didn't realize this.
The minimum age at which you can legally marry
as a man is 22.
Really?
And yeah, I know.
I had no idea.
So, yeah, not valid.
We're going to have to wrap up in a second.
So anything before we do?
A Japanese thing.
There's a Japanese word called Nuhara,
which means noodle harassment.
And that refers to the hassle
that some people get for slurping their noodles too loudly.
this is a big thing in Japan at the moment
apparently, according to the internet
and someone has managed to deal with it
by inventing a musical spoon
so basically you have a musical spoon
it plays loads of music and no one can hear you slurp in your noodles
oh no that sounds much more annoying
yeah what does it sing
nice
well okay speaking of our theme tune
we must wrap up
thank you so much for listening
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where we have links to our book,
the book of the year. It's out now
and we're going to give a copy away in a second
to someone from our audience.
We've picked out our favorite fact
that you guys sent Andy
what was the best fact
This one is from Sam Ward, and it's that.
The Liechtenstein Football Team's National Stadium is only half in Liechtenstein.
The other half is in Switzerland.
So for 45 minutes every match, the Liechtenstein goalie invades Switzerland.
And who is that from?
That's from Sam Ward.
Cool.
Come and collect your book at the end.
Guys, thank you so much for having us.
We're going to be out the back, as I said before.
We're going to be signing our books, so they're on sale.
If you want to come say hi, please do anyway.
Thank you so much, guys.
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