No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As Playing Snake On A Plane

Episode Date: September 1, 2017

Dan, James, Anna and Anne discuss Hitler's Beatles cameo, how lobsters fly, and the most surprising place to find John Goodman. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Covert Garden. My name is Dan Schreiber and I'm sitting here with Anna Chazinski, Anne Miller and James Harkin, and once again we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days. And in no particular order, here we go. Starting with you, Anne. My fact is that Genoa Airport has relaxed its liquid band, but only, for Pesto. I wouldn't even say Pesto was a liquid. It's more like a soup, isn't it? Well, soup is liquid. You're not allowed to take soup through, I mean, there's one group of people that you don't want to
Starting point is 00:00:54 hug with probably airport security. So, if they say, don't bring it out of it. I went through airport security this time, and I went to the passport guy and the guy said, have you got a problem? And I think he was trying to be nice, but he had a Glasgowian accent. He sounded like he was trying to invite me outside for a fight. I was like, do you got a problem, mate? Did he then say politely, do you want to take this outside? And then he politely smacked me in the face. But the Pesto campaign, so basically this airport was confiscating about 500 jars of Pesto every few months and decided it was gone too far.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And so this is sort of, it's a charity thing really. It's a campaign called Pesto is good. You're allowed one 500 mil jar of Pesto. And you buy a 50 euro cent stamp, which will let you take it on board and they scan it through the same machine that medicine and breast milk goes through. And so is this a tourism thing? Were they feeling up? financial knock. Well, I think partly because they're known for Pesto in that area, so it's nice to bring.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But also, I think it's slightly in it. It's a charity thing, so the money goes to a company called the Flying Angels Foundation, which brings in kids from the developing world who need to have operations. But a similar thing happened in City Airport. They were seizing an awful lot of Marmite. So this summer they did a Marmite amnesty where you could trade in your big jar for a small pot. Marmite's an interesting liquidy one. Is it a liquid?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Is it a liquid? Well, it is unless you bash it really hard and then it turns into a solid because it's non-newtony. That's not true. Is it? Yeah. So all we need to do is invent this non-Newtonian liquid to be applied to things like bottles of water and you can give it a smack before you get to immigration. It goes in as a solid block.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Bring in a block of ice. You have to keep smacking it. Why don't you just bring in a massive block of ice in a bottle? So you can do that. Do you know, if you freeze your water and you bring in a bottle of ice, then they will bring it through? I think actually some will and some won't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Maybe. Yeah. It's actually an interesting thing with airports, confiscating things. A lot of airports don't have the same rules. So in some airports, lipstick counts liquid and something counts solid. It's so weird,
Starting point is 00:02:45 well, you can and can't bring onto planes. I was reading this year that the TSA in America confirmed via their Instagram that you're allowed to bring live lobsters on as part of your carry-on luggage. Well, they're not liquid.
Starting point is 00:02:59 That's true. Humans are quite liquid by that logic. So why should we be allowed on? That's true. We're 70% water. Oh, yeah. So why are we allowed on? Because someone gives us a slap
Starting point is 00:03:07 before we go through the immigration. But the other thing is your live lobster presumably likes living in water. So how do you keep it alive without bringing the water in? Yeah, you get them 20 tiny waters and then you put it together. Yeah, put it in Pesto. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 The photo in question on the Instagram that they uploaded was of a 20 pound lobster. It's ginormous. And it was allowed on because lobsters are allowed on. They're just putting the overhead carry storage. Do you know that the TSA, their Instagram is crazy popular? It's got 780,000 followers. And at Rolling Stone named it the fourth best Instagram accounts in the world, beating NASA.
Starting point is 00:03:42 No way. NASA, Beyonce and the TSA are the top four. The TSA are the top. So it's Kim Kardashian in that geo, somebody I've forgotten, then TSA, then Beyonce, then NASA. Wow. Poor somebody who you forgot it. They've worked so hard.
Starting point is 00:03:56 They've made it into the top three of all time. It's probably just in Beaver. What a slam. I'm really sorry, number three. But so their account is amazing. So they confiscate nine guns a day in American airports. Most of them are loaded. and on this Instagram, basically the Instagram is pictures of stuff that's being confiscated and they're dogs,
Starting point is 00:04:15 which does very well on the internet. But things they've taken include live eels, a live grenade, a knife hidden inside an enchilada, a medieval mace, a dagger hidden inside a replica of the Eiffel Tower and a chihuahua that sneaked into its owner's back when they weren't looking. You know, when they started banning liquids on planes, they weren't shorted about breast milk at first, and they quite quickly decided that breast milk should be the one exception, which it is. but it used to be the case that women were sometimes asked to prove that it was their own breast milk by drinking it. But a lot of them said it was disgusting. So one woman said it was embarrassing and disgusting having to drink my own breast milk.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I wonder if it goes back in and just refills. I don't know how that works. Not directly. In terms of the body. I think it spoils it. I think there was an article a while ago with someone who got to be made to do that. And I was like, but if I do that, like it won't all keep, like, I think she'd be on a business trip or something. And they made her taste all.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And then it spoils and you can't keep it. So what's the whole point? So when they first started banning things They originally banned pens For the first couple of weeks On the grounds that the ink they contained was a fluid Yeah, makes sense How come they were allowed back on?
Starting point is 00:05:16 I think if your pen has more than 100 millilitres of ink in it Then you've probably got the wrong pen manufacturer It could be well as novelty life Large pens that you bring in Oh, I'm signing a massive check for someone I need this in enormous pen And then they also stop people From bringing phones on for a while
Starting point is 00:05:33 and so many people were upset about that that people were switching their Paris or Brussels flights from London at a rate of 10 a minute. Oh, yeah, they lost loads of money, British Airways, didn't they? They lost like a million dollars in a really short amount of time. 50 million. But yeah, because people are so desperate to have their phones for just a one-hour plane journey.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's not a long trip from London to Paris. No. And you can't use your phone in the air. No. But maybe if you had a BlackBerry, you could kind of draft some emails. Yes. Play snake.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah, play snake. Snake was huge back then. Snakes on a plane. I was reading about things that have been left at airports this year. So the first is a headstone that was found that had the inscription, you will always be remembered, never forgotten. That was left at an airport. That was at Dublin Airport that they accidentally left the never forget headstone. There's also a toilet seat, a cistern, human ash.
Starting point is 00:06:33 false teeth and glass eyes. So that's all from the last few years. Did you say a toilet seat and a sister? Yeah. That sounds like someone on a gap here who's heard the facilities in Indonesia are really bad. And they've brought, I'll just bring my own toilet. It's fine. Carrying around with them.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Well, speaking of toilets and airport, again, just news from this year involving airports and toilets. There's a airport in Tokyo that for a few months of this year provided toilet paper for anyone on the toilet for not only themselves, but then a separate toilet system that provided paper for their smartphones. So you'd wipe your bum. With your smartphone? No, no, no. And then you wipe your smartphone with the toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So you would have one toilet roll for your bum and then another toilet roll for your smartphone, a smaller mini roll because they were worried that so many people use their phone now on the toilets, that they're getting all sorts of dirty bacteria on them. And then that goes onto their head when they hold it on. So this is just a little bit of toilet roll to just wipe your smartphone down once you're done. He can't fold up toilet paper and make it smaller. Okay, it is time for fact number two, and that is James. Okay, my fact this week is that it has been scientifically proven
Starting point is 00:07:51 that the Beatles were an average band who didn't really influence music. Outrageous. Proven by whom? What are you talking about? It's just outrageous. Well, I'm mostly saying this just to wind that up. But this is a real study. It was done by a biologist called Armand LaRoy.
Starting point is 00:08:08 and he's from the Imperial College, London. And what he is, he's an evolutionary biologist, and he plotted the 50 years of hit singles from the US Billboard chart into a computer program, the models evolution, and found out which song was influenced by which song. He found out that the Beatles are just kind of an average band who didn't really influence that many people.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Oh, yeah. And really, around that time, it was more the Who and the Rolling Stones that did the influencing, and overall, it's more hip-hop music. So is this sort of changes, in musical style, like changes in the direction of where music was going. Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So what they did was they got 30 second snippets of music and they put it into the computer program and the computer program could tell the difference between different musical properties like instruments used or chord patterns or whatever and they look to where they might have got that idea from in an evolutionary way. Okay. But I think it's an interesting point, isn't it? Nope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I think, because if you, like, you're more likely to find, bands that say Beatles are an influence to them, then you are not, I would say. So I think what we're saying is all those bands are wrong. I know, who knew? I think this guy did acknowledge that the Beatles were still part of that revolution in American music. It was just like the Rolling Stones and the Who seemed to create more of a change.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And he also did acknowledge the very obvious truth that, because the Beatles were heard so widely by so many people, even if age change was coming in music that influenced them, they were then the ones who influenced so many more people because they were just so popular. Bob Dylan, I can't remember the exact quote, but Bob Dylan said that the Beatles changed America completely. They knocked America into basically a revolution of culture. And Bob Dylan and the Beatles had a bit of an awkward relationship, though, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Like John Lennon loved Bob Dylan and, you know, was inspired by some Bob Dylan songs to write things like Norwegian Wood and to go a bit deeper. But Bob Dylan, I think, people think, wasn't really influenced by the Beatles at all. And yet now has written one of his best new songs on his new album is called Dear John or something. is a really moving song about John Lennon. Is it? Yeah. So, Amand Leroy, who is the guy behind this study or one of the guys behind this study, he's also one of the guys behind a thing called Darwin Tunes.org.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And this is a website from a few years ago where they would play you some music, and then you say whether you liked it or whether you didn't like it, and they keep doing that. And then eventually they hope to evolve the perfect bit of music that everyone liked. So again, it's a kind of evolution through music. So I'm going to play you some of this and see what you're going to play you. think about this. So this is a song that in theory all of us in this room should like?
Starting point is 00:10:42 Well, I'll start off doing something that was from 150 generations. So 150 times people have said, I like this, I don't like this, and it kind of evolved into a certain kind of music. So this is this. It's not bad for something you play than a Nokia. Yeah, you're not impressed.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Well, no. It sounds like a ring. Okay, so what I'll do now is I'll play you something from 8,700 generations. So this has gone through much more evolution. So this in theory should be much more nice
Starting point is 00:11:22 to the ears. See what you think of this. Exciting. It's slightly better. I still feel like it's not quite at Beatles level of songwriting genius. Well, pop music is repetitive.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That definitely was. I found a few interesting connections between Beatles and comedy. Okay. So this is an interesting thing to me
Starting point is 00:12:07 and perhaps comedy fans out there. There was a team called... I can't imagine any comedy fans are listening to this podcast. No, yeah, that's true. So I'll do a bit of explaining. There used to be a group called Beyond the Fringe, starred Dudley Moore, Peter Cook, Jonathan Miller, Alan Bennett. They were the big awakening of comedy in the 1950s in Britain,
Starting point is 00:12:26 did a lot of satirical stuff, kind of the birth of satire, some would say. And the applause that was used at their show for their recording was taken by the producer of George Mollinger. Martin who did all of the Beatles stuff and he put it to the beginning of Sergeant Pepper. So if you know the song Sergeant Pepper's, when there's that, let me introduce to you, the actor, no, no, there's lots of applause going on. That's from Beyond the Fringe in the 1950s.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. It's a comedy applause going on. So this year it's been the 50 year anniversary of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band. That's right. Do you know that Adolf Hitler is on the cover of that album? So they have, if you know the iconic album, there's loads and loads of faces. They didn't have Jesus on there And they didn't have Gandhi
Starting point is 00:13:10 But they do have Adolf Hitler Okay Do they? I don't remember him being on there Is he in disguise? He is a little bit He's behind the Beatles Completely obscured Completely obscured
Starting point is 00:13:22 Completely obscured And how he's there This is according to the guy who made it Who's called Sir Peter Blake And I don't know if he's joking or not But he did say that When you look at the photographs Of the outtakes
Starting point is 00:13:33 That they were doing at the time You can see that Hitler was there but actually when they did the final picture he was hiding behind the Beatles themselves that does sound a bit familiar actually yeah oh god they should they need to do you know when they do sort of like weird ultrasound scans on great works of Renaissance art and they find
Starting point is 00:13:48 another Mona Lisa underneath the Mona Lisa they need to do that to the album cover yeah it could be all sorts of people under that yeah um I was reading about how people that sometimes it said that John Lennon created sort of flipping sound round when he fed up his real player the wrong way round yeah was there before but they popularised it and apparently
Starting point is 00:14:07 George learned his solo backwards for I'm only sleeping and then they reversed it in the real recording It's kind of cool if he did that true, very cool He recited the words backwards
Starting point is 00:14:15 No, and the solo on the guitar Oh really? Which if true is quite cool because he would sound editing now Things like splicing, cutting moving around is really easy but then it was all
Starting point is 00:14:24 literally cutting up the film yourself and moving it so kind of like that so when they did a take on Strawberry Fields Forever John Lennon wanted part from one take and part from a different take and so they'd be recorded
Starting point is 00:14:34 at different tempos and different pitches, so they had to try and sort of merge the two, because otherwise it can't just switch halfway through it from, like, different keys. Yeah. The reverse technique thing is really interesting, because they do that in comedy films as well, particularly for slapstick movies. They do it for when the slapstick stunt is so outrageously harsh. They start it backwards.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So say, for example, in Guesthouse Paradiso, they slam in two sharp forks into Adrian Edmondson's nostrils. So you see the hand go, huang, and just hook his nose right up. And you couldn't do that. Even with rubber, it's such a tight precision. and thing. Oh, I see, but you can pull them out. So you start with it. So you start with it in. Adrian Edmondson had to learn his lines backwards. Say it to the screen. And then they remove it. And then when you flip it the other way around, it goes in and then his lines are forward.
Starting point is 00:15:19 There was another music study I was reading about that was done quite recently, which was a study that was done in Spain, which looked into how pop music has changed. And just to kind of satisfy, I guess, our parents' generation, it found that it has got too loud and it all sounds the same now. A study found this. They analysed 464,000 songs from 1950s to 2010, and they looked at the diversity of note combinations, and they looked at different chord progressions and when they changed keys and stuff like that. And they found that the melodies of songs today are all more similar to each other, and that they don't have as many changes within them, that the timbrel palette employed is less. So that's the different kind of instruments in the olden days. You'd have some trumpets, and you'd have an organ suddenly, and you'd have a triangle. but now it's just, you know, a lot of it's more electric. Are we necessarily saying that that is worse or better?
Starting point is 00:16:12 They certainly weren't because they are objective scientists. Proper scientists, you see. But I am, so... What you could say is that they really tried lots of different things over the years and now we've found something that really works and it's Taylor Swift's new song. You could say that. We're currently breaking all records on YouTube, guys.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Is it? Only half of them are me. Okay, it's time for fact number three, and that is Chisinski. My fact this week is that when the first pilgrims went over on the Mayflower, one of them brought 139 pairs of shoes with him. So this is the voyage of the Mayflower, which was in 1620, when a bunch of pilgrims went over and they landed in America and they set up the first permanent settlement in New England.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And so, obviously, extremely famous, and it's the pilgrim fathers. And, yeah, they actually were not very well prepared to go and take over a new, totally unexplored really land. Well, it sounds like they're prepared if they're going to do a lot of walking. I'm not even sure they were practical walking shoes. I've got to say. It was 126 pairs of shoes and 13 pairs of boots.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And to be fair, he was a shoemaker. It was a guy called William Mullins. Maybe he thought he was going to sell them to the locals. I don't know. I mean, what else is he going to bring with him? Yeah. He's not going to bring sausages with him, is he? He's a shoemaker.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He's a shoemaker. Actually, there were over, there was around 130, passengers in total on board. So a pair of shoes for each. So maybe he was thinking business terms. But the rest of them didn't go barefoot. They just all brought the sensible one pair, one spare pair. But yeah, they weren't very well prepared.
Starting point is 00:17:49 They didn't bring kind of useful things like kind of fishing lines or a plow. But yeah, some other people brought a trumpet. Someone brought a drum. Someone brought a complete history of turkey. So these were sort of almost gentlemen, these people. So they wanted to take stuff that they valued, which wasn't necessarily the super useful stuff. that a laborer would be able to work with.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Do you know, there were two babies born on the Mayflower. One was born when they docked in America, and one was born at sea. And they named him Oceanus. That's so nice. I was actually reading into Oceanus. I would pronounce that Oceanus. Oceanus.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So Oceanus Hopkins was his name. Had he kept his mother's maiden name, he would have been called Oceanus Fisher, which is quite nice. That's ocean and fish. This is a dominant of determinists. Yeah. So unfortunately, Oceaniaus didn't.
Starting point is 00:18:37 lived too long. He died probably six years into life. They're not fully sure. But his father, Stephen Hopkins, has an interesting story because he was part of the crew on the Mayflower, but he was also on a boat that tried to settle in the New World 10 years earlier in Jamestown, of Virginia. And on his way there, the boat got wrecked off the coast of Bermuda, and he got stranded there with a bunch of other fellow passengers for several months. And the story of that rescue that brought them back was what William Shakespeare says he based the Tempest on. Oh, no way.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yes. It speculated. He did. But they're questioning whether even one of the characters as well was named after Stephen Hopkins, Oceanos's dad. Stephanus, isn't it? Because there's Stefano in The Tempest. And supposedly Stephen Hopkins was one of Shakespeare's neighbors, supposedly lived in the
Starting point is 00:19:33 same area as Shakespeare. So quite a famous family by D. and situation. Quite a lot of adventures for one guy. Yeah. And he worked with John Smith as well of Pocahontas fame. So that was James Town. Well, that was because he was a guy who went to James Town 10 years earlier, whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So, yeah, he was working with John Smith to try and set up their colony there. Do you think he had, like, a mission to get as many movies as possible? Yeah, four movies were a thing. Yeah, good point. He's like, you know, those actors that you get that are in basically every movie. Yeah. Like, they've just got the one line or whatever. He's a bit like John Goodman, who's in every good movie.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Like he was for ages whenever there was a best picture. He was in Argo and he was in the artist and he was in everything, wasn't he? But never had a main part. Do you know, James, that is unbelievably weird that you've just said that because a John Goodman was on board the Mayflower. No. Was it the same guy? Yeah, he's much older than he looks. He's got really good at moisturising.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Oh, my God. There were also, I was just looking at the names. There were some other good names because they were pilgrims. They were religious, a lot of them. So they named their children strange things. like there was someone called Remember, there was someone called Resolved and someone called Humility. Actually, remember they left him in the departure lounge. Dublin Airport.
Starting point is 00:20:46 There was William Brewster, who was one of the most famous people who went across and became an elder in the community. He brought his children who were called True Love and Wrestling. Yeah, wrestling. I saw that. That's so cool. Wrestling Brewster was his name. Such a good name. That's something straight out of Lockstock or something. Can I just say, Dan, you are about to have a baby scene.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah. Wrestling is a strong name. Wrestling is an incredibly good. Wrestling is an incredibly good. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, She Anus is also a very strong option. Constantly correcting the pronunciation of his name forevermore.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's actually anus. So they were trying to escape religious tolerance or intolerance, depending on which way you look at it. They were basically trying to escape the Anglicans or the Puritans. But of the... the 100, just over 100 people on the boat, more than 60 of them were Anglicans. So they were trying to escape them, but they were basically with them on the boat the whole way. And they called themselves the Saints, the Puritans, and they called the Anglican strangers.
Starting point is 00:21:51 But the crew on the Mayflower called the Puritans, Salm-Singing Pukestockings. In a flattering way? Did that mean something different? I'm not sure how that can be flattering, puk stocking. I can only imagine. I can only imagine. imagine that they had puke-colored stockings. Oh, okay. I thought it was seasickness. Yeah, because didn't the Mayflower left a bit later than Nementi because there is another shape called Speedwell,
Starting point is 00:22:15 and they both done part of the journey, but then Speedwell got a leak, and so its passengers went on to Mayflower because they wasted time, it meant the Mayflower had to go through sort of chopier water and storm season they've been trying to avoid. So you probably would want of puke stocking if you were on this? So do you think maybe they were just puking a lot? That's why they were called puke stockings.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Probably into their stockings. The sick bag, it's the 70s. century. So it's the 400th anniversary of the trip in 2020. And I was reading that in order to celebrate it. There's a company that is creating a virtual reality. So you put on the VR thing and it's going to place you on the boat. And it replicates the whole journey. So they're going to make it sail from Plymouth to Plymouth. So you can do some virtual puking into your stuff. Exactly. I wonder if that's an element that they're going to add to it. John Goodman and MacArthur. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Okay, it is time for our final fact of the show, and that is my fact. My fact this week is that a new scientific paper on why horses only have one toe has been published. The author of that paper is called Brianna McCorse. McCorse. That's brilliant. It's not even a name. It's not a name. It's not a name. It is a name.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It is a name that people have had before. In fact, if you go to McCorse.com, there's a man charting all the McCorses through history. They say that they're all descended from John W. McHawes, who was born in 1819. Oh, really? And no one's quite sure why he got called McHawes, because it doesn't seem like there were any McCorses before him. But according to one idea, he was in America, and he was hanging out with a guy called Sam Houston. But he was called McHughes at the time. And Sam Houston said McHawse would be a better name for a Texan than McHughes.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Oh, okay. And so maybe the name came as a joke. Yes. and McCuse slash McCourse went on to have 12 children. So the name spread like wildfire, even in its first generation of use. And if you go to McCourse.com, the guy who runs it, who is a McCourse himself,
Starting point is 00:24:23 he... No one else is going to be running McCourse. Don't they? It's a Saturday job. He has a spreadsheet of the genealogy and family tree of all the McCorses since that guy. And it's amazing how many macaworses
Starting point is 00:24:35 you can get since 1819. There's a lot. It's quite cool to have a name you can pinpoint when it came and then to see, like, tracing it back, because it is tons of millers. Like, if you know you're a pure Macquarse, the gods that you're related to that,
Starting point is 00:24:47 McCorse, pretty hard. Yeah. McCoss does sound like it's a burger you can get in French McDonald's, doesn't it? It does. Yeah. Also sounds like, if it means son of, then it sounds like you'd call someone McCorse
Starting point is 00:24:58 as an insulting joke saying, your mum obviously shagged a horse, doesn't it? Because you're saying son of horse. I'm putting that forward as an alternative theory for the origin of the name based on no evidence. Don't tell the guy that runs that website if he'd be gushed a guy.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah. So the paper that McCorse published, Brianna McCorse, is mechanics of evolutionary digit reduction in fossil horses. So the thing to know about her is she doesn't study horses for a living. She is an evolutionary biologist, and she's just been looking into why horses now have this one toe as opposed to five, which is what their ancestors might have had. Their ancestors might have had four on their front and three on the back, I think. Okay. If you look at tapirs, that's what they have, which is like similar to an old kind of horse. And they reckon that basically it helps them to run faster. Because if you've got long, slim legs with just these one toes, it helps you to gallop. And the reason they had to do that is because they stopped living in the forest, because there were no forests when the ice age hit America.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So there were no forests, they had to live in the open, so they had to run away from predators. And so they needed really speedy legs. If horses had feet, like we have feet. So like literally a foot, would that be better for them? Or are they the ultimate? I think what we're saying is for what they evolved into, which was this large open pastures with no forest, this was the best that they could come up with, presumably.
Starting point is 00:26:21 That's how evolution works. I think probably the more direct answer to your question is no, if a horse was randomly born with four human feet on the end of its legs, it would be at a disadvantage. But if it had human feet, it could wear a trainers rather having to go to a blacksmith. So it'd be more convenient. That's a really good point. And they don't make those bouncy Nike horse shoes today, whereas they do make trainers.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Also, horses did evolve in America, so maybe when this guy came over on the Mayflower, he thought that he could sell his shoes to all these four-footed. It's like, come on, guys, this is really going to help you out. But he said Brianna didn't, she didn't set out to study horses, but she may have been drawn towards them. So there was a 2002 academic paper about nominative determinism, which is brilliantly called, Why Susie sells seashells by the seashore, implicit egotism and major life decisions, which found that people disproportionately do tend to pick careers.
Starting point is 00:27:07 that mirror their names. So they have a larger proportion than you'd expect of dentists and denises in the dentistry industry. Ah. Although not everyone believes it, do they? There have been a few papers since that kind of think that maybe they
Starting point is 00:27:18 slightly cherry-picked their data. That's true. I read that paper by Albert Skeptical. It's really hard to please that kind. A great one. This is not nominative determinism, but I was watching what I lie to you last night, the comedy panel show.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And David Hay, the boxer, was a guest on it. And he named his, son Cassius after Cassius Clay, Muhammad Ali. That means his son is called Cassius Hay. It's fantastic. Okay. Rob Brydon got a big laugh on the show with that. That's the way you tell them. I just, that reminded me of a fact which is in our new fact book, which comes out this year, which is that on the USPGA, most golfers play with a glove to keep their hands from blistering. But the one of the only players that doesn't use a glove is called Lucas Glover. Do you know James, just while we're talking sports,
Starting point is 00:28:10 do you know who the new reigning champion of most bull's eyes in a minute is for darts? Phil Taylor? No. If I name a load of dance players, will I get it? No, you're in the wrong industry. Oh, is it Steve Backley, the javelin thrower? No. Robin Hood.
Starting point is 00:28:28 It's Lea Mac, the comedian. Come off it. Yeah, Lea Mac. He set the record this year, and he beat it by one for most bull's eyes within a minute and I learned this on a TV show called Would I Lie to You? Was it true or was it a lie? It was true. Out of interest, just so we know, how many of your facts this week have come from,
Starting point is 00:28:48 would I lie to you? Should we give them a credit at the end? If the whole thing's just that. Is it more or less than 20? Less. That's a lie. Yes. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Points to James. Have you guys ever seen... You guys would have seen this because I put it on the... Would I lie to? Yeah, loads times. Yeah, it's great. How good was that whole Cassius Hay bit? Have you guys ever seen the feet of a newborn horse?
Starting point is 00:29:14 No. They are incredible. So guys, if you're listening at home, you've got a Google image this right now. What they look like is, I was trying to work out a good metaphor for them, actually, for how to describe them. They look like kind of a cross between a squishy crab claw, an anemone, with like a bit of cats pour in it. And they're really slimy. And what it is is, if the horse was born with its hoof fully exposed, it would damage the mother's birth canal as it came out.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And so the hoof is covered in this kind of grotesque, slimy anemone, which stops it from being damaged, and then it falls off as soon as the horse is born. So the way that some animals would do it is they would come out not quite fully formed so that it wouldn't do that. But horses are in danger as soon as they're born, because the mother spills her birth fluids everywhere, and immediately that alerts predators to the scent.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So the foal needs to be ready to run as soon as it pops out. So it pops out and then it sheds this slimy layer of goo on its feet and then it gallops away. But it's the most amazing thing. If you see it, you would never guess it belonged to a horse. It's scary, isn't it, with animals like that? It's almost like you're being born into the beginning moment of the Hunger Games. Like the platform comes up and there's a siren and you just have to survive. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's your opening moment into life. I've got something on a racehorse. Okay. The greatest racehorse of all times. He was called Eclipse and was born in the 1764 solar eclipse around that time and that's why they got the name
Starting point is 00:30:43 and he had to retire from racing because he won so often no one would ever bet on any other horse No way and at the time, I mean still but at the time horse racing was all about the gambling and so he was so good
Starting point is 00:30:56 they just wouldn't let him race anymore and he was extremely famous bits of his body after he died would kind of materialise like holy relics. So there were nine authentic hooves of his turned into ink stands. Now, if he did actually have nine legs, then that could explain why he kept winning these races.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Okay, that is it. That is all of our facts. Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to get in contact with any of us about the things that we've said over the course of this podcast, we can be found on our Twitter accounts. I'm on at Schreiberland, James. At Eggshaped, Anne.
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