No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As Purplue

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

Dan, James, Andrew and Sophie Duker discuss randy humps, landing bumps, A. Guy (a girl), and the most romantic Romantic. Visit nosuchthingasafish.com for news about live shows, merchandise and more episodes.  Join Club Fish for ad-free episodes and exclusive bonus content at apple.co/nosuchthingasafish or nosuchthingasafish.com/patreon

Hi everyone, welcome to this week's episode of Fish, where we are joined by the wonderful Sophie Duker. Now, if you don't know who Sophie Duker is, where have you been? Certainly not watching Season 13 of Taskmaster, that's for sure, which is the season that she won. She is also one mastermind. She's a regular on our television on all of the panel shows, and she was absolutely brilliant on our show. If you want to learn anything more about Sophie, the best place to go. is to sophydooker.com that's s o p h i e d u k er dot c o m and actually she also has a comedy night known as wacky racists which is coming to the hackney empire on the 26th of october that will be hosted by

sophie and will include nish kumar and all sorts of other guests who are yet to be announced that will be a brilliant night you should definitely get your tickets for that but like i said any information on Sophie, the best place to go is to Sophiejuca.com. Very much hope you enjoy this week's show. I won't bore you with adverts for upcoming live shows or for club fish. You know where to go if you want to get involved with those. For now, let's just say, on with a podcast. Hello and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QI offices in Hoburn. My name is Dan Schreiber. I'm sitting here with James Harkin, Andrew Hunter Murray and Sophie Juker

And once again we have gathered around the microphones With our four favorite facts from the last seven days And in no particular order, here we go Starting with fact number one, that is Sophie Oh my God, my fact is During their mating season, male camel's stomachs actually shrink so that they can concentrate on chasing females That's incredible.

Brilliant. Yeah. So they need to stop less for food. Or is it, what is it? I think it's so that they look fit. Yeah. Oh, really? Is it like breathing in and, you know, sticking your chest out?

What, sucking in your stomach? They have got three stomachs, haven't they? So it will have a good effect if they suck in all three stomachs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Sadly, I don't think they suck in their, I think they suck in their stomach to be kind of more agile and literally chase women. Oh, wow, really.

I totally bought the first reason. Yeah. Thanks for clarifying. I think it's so they can be faster because there is quite a disgusting display that camels do when they are, a male camels do, sorry,

female camels are angels. A male's a disgusting rat like, yeah, toxic, yeah, yeah, yeah. So talking about the toxic male camel, toxic male camel, have this thing that they do also during their mating season where they blow up their soft palate.

So I don't know exactly how they do it. I'm not a camel, but I'm very culturally aware. And some people think that they've, like, thrown up their stomachs or, like, part of their mouths, but it's actually like they've let up their soft palate so that this huge, bulbous pink glistening thing hangs out of their mouths. And it looks almost exactly like a pair of testicles. It really does. It's so disgusting. I saw a picture just this morning. I never thought of it that way, but yeah.

So you said that again, testicles are disgusting. Oh, yeah. Yes. I'm not happy with them. There was a study recently about how attractive testicles are, and they showed a load of images of, of, of, of, scrotums to women and asked them to rate how attractive they were. And in the abstract at the start of it, it said we were unable to say that any scrotums were attractive. We were only allowed to say which was the least unattractive.

Oh no. Were they all human? Sorry, yes. I should say they were all human testicles. Aren't some people getting there smoothened if you get some Botox in there? You can have a smooth bolsack. Oh, yes, to have that. Yeah, yeah.

You can do that. I don't think any Botox scrotidei. We're part of this study. Right. And also then it's so much harder for them to be expressive, which is a real shame. That bag that they have, the one that you're talking about,

is it called the Dulla? Yes. Yeah, I didn't know how to pronounce it, so I'm glad you took the fool for that. But the camel, because the camel can close its nose to avoid, I think, sand in a desert storm and things like that.

And I think it closes its nose and then just breathes out into the bag. You know when you're kind of trying to make your nose pop? Yeah, it's a bit like that. Yeah, exactly. Like, God, we don't do. that when we try and pop our ears and try and ball sack comes out of our mouth

no but you're actually not meant to I didn't know this you're not meant to do that out of the water that's meant to be like a dive if someone told me so maybe if you did it hard enough you would yeah yeah your doler would flop out that that that that's sac that comes out that is seen as quite a sexy thing towards

the female camels it's and and they drool foam at the same time it's quite I know it's wrong because it's sort of saying I find it disgusting but obviously it's an animal thing and, you know, but in this case, it's just disgusting. I think it's fine even these days to say that something that an animal does is not attractive to you. I think that is allowed.

But I find everything else animals do really sexy. They urinate on their own tails, don't they? Hot, see? Yeah. Is that for scent? Yeah, to lay down the scent. Lay down the pheromones. And then they flick it up like a little...

Flick it up, yeah. I don't know if that's just because they're dicks. But they're flicking up the little shower of it. There's something else they do during mating season. Oh yeah. Which is... Oh, sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. But they do. They must do. They must do. Otherwise, how old. So this is a study done in Saudi Arabia or maybe the UAE. But this is deceitful behavior by male camels during mating season. So they wait for the cover of darkness.

And their males will lie down and they'll pretend to go to sleep. But they're not asleep. And they're just waiting for a female to be lulled into a false sense of security. And then the males pounce on them. Yeah, it's not great. No. So I know anthropomorphism is also not the point, but then the females respond by biting the male's knee joints

if they're not interested, which can give them arthritis in the long run. Oh. Okay, so if you ever see an old camel with arthritis, it means in his younger days he was a sex pest. Yeah, that's exactly what it means. Yeah. I saw a sex video the other day of camels having mating.

You saw what, sorry? I saw a video. Yeah, yeah. Like, just watched. Was it part of this research or just... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I would have got to an...

anyway eventually. So this footage was because two camels, I think it was in Dubai, Rabidabee, just were doing it in the middle of the road. So traffic was held up, so everyone was filming it. And it was effectively, the female camel was on the ground, and it was... They sit down, don't they? Yeah, and it was interesting, because in my head, I hadn't pictured how camels would have sex.

Well, like almost all mammals, it's doggy style, but the difference is that the females sit down. Yeah, which is curious. Take a seat, and then the male goes behind. Do you know why camels have humps? Sort of. Well, to store energy and fat reserves. Why do they need to, why do they need to store it? Do you mean like why there?

Why do they need to store the desert? They go on time without food. Well, in actual fact, it's not because they evolved in the desert. It's because they evolved in the Arctic. Oh. So camels evolved in really cold conditions and they evolved the humps. and then eventually they migrated down into hotter areas. And it turned out that they were brilliant for that condition as well,

and that's where they ended up. Beautiful. They're from the USA, aren't they? Or like the Americas is where camels first of all. Originally, yeah. And weren't they used to be mega camels, like four meters high at the shoulder. They used to be gigantic camels roaming the earth. Yeah.

How long ago, like at the time when everything was massive? Before there were humans in the Americas, I think, right? Yes, I think so. Certainly tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of years. I got another old camel. I feel like they're very versatile because the earliest known camel, apparently, called Protti Lopus,

lived in North America 40 to 50 million years ago. And it was the size of a rabbit. Oh. The size of a little rabbit. That's amazing. But what were the rabbits the size of at the time? They were the size of rhinos. They were massive.

So they were really small and then went really big. Wow. Really small. Yeah. Well, they sort of found the middle ground, didn't they? did. Found their range. That's very cool. Do you want to hear a couple of camel proverbs? Sure. Okay. He's good. He's from the Middle East.

Here's one. He who steals an egg will steal a camel. Is that what they have at the start of their DVDs? You wouldn't steal an egg. What does that mean? I suck with problems. What does that mean? It means if I was dishonest enough to do something small against you,

then don't trust me because I'll do something even worse against you. Got it. Exactly. Exactly. Here's another one that's slightly harder to get. Yeah. The door is big enough for a camel to pass through. Well, that's in the Bible.

So you... No, that's about the rich man getting into heaven and the... Easier than a camel to get through the iron needle. For a rich man to get through. No, this is just... The door is big enough for a camel to pass through.

It's big door. Big door. Which size camel are we talking about? Is this like a rabbit flap? Yeah, it's a small, small. It's a nice saying, actually. It's... Oh, oh, everyone's welcome.

It's actually the opposite of that. it's feel free to leave you know you're not interested the door is as big big enough for a camera pass there is nothing keeping you here wow that's not a good phrase that is good phrase did you see camels recently Sophie I did see camels recently because I went to

the desert and it turns out they're all over the shop I was I was chilling though not literally because it was so hot and dry with the Bedouin oh cool yeah and Bedouin people in other

pastoralist people are very like their camels are they're a big deal they're like they love their camels there's actually um a i want to say like a folkloric tradition of song called the al huda whereas part of a journey you sing to entertain primarily the camel so it's like it's just that there's a lot of a lot of uh fergus back patelogue talking about yeah i really like that and alhuda has been uh adopted under unesco intangible heritage Oh, that's cool. That's really cool. Did you sing it to the camels?

I didn't sing to the camels. I sort of was like, I sort of looked at them respectfully but did not ride. Oh, you didn't ride? I didn't ride a camel. It's fun. I've ridden a camel. I have, but are you supposed to these days? Yeah.

Are you? It's absolutely fine. Is it cool to ride camels? I think it's, okay, well, I mean, so he's been near a camel more recently than me, so there might be more recent data. When I was doing it, it was absolutely. Where did you do it? Dubai.

Nice. When I was tiny. And the weird thing is, because they kneel down, they fold their legs so efficiently under themselves, and then you get on, and then they stand up. But that means they have this mad, they tilt back crazily as one set of legs gets up, and then they tilt back the other way as the other set of legs gets up, and then eventually you're flat. But it's a...

Also, they are so important for so much more than being ridden. Yeah. For so much more than... It's a great ride. I think, like, camel milk in Jordan. The mansef, like a dish with camel milk is one of the... It was the national dish of Jordan And it's meant to have like So many different healing properties

Did you try it? I did try Mansock It was good It was like a bit tart You're saying that right you didn't like it at all I loved it I loved it I just like mixed in a lot

I wouldn't want undiluted camel milk But that's because I'm a baby Raised on Raised on cow but now very much transition to Oat and Ormond Here's the thing camels can do This is great They can move

The two halves of their top lip left and right independently of each other. Oh, okay. How cool is that? Oh, that's fun. Because you can picture a camel's face. It has that kind of, you know, gap in the middle at the top of their lip, and they can move them. So like how on by one?

People do that really fun eyebrow thing where they raise one eyebrow. They've got the lip equivalent. Yeah, exactly. That's so cool. There must be a look in the camel world that they give when they're like. You can signal that you're not really into it if you're kissing someone, but they're only using half your mouth. That's how you can, you know. Yeah.

I feel like they're like their inherent. eroticism and also, like, I think a lot of stuff about the physicality of camels is probably why they've not yet been given the Pixar treatment. They're too earthy. They're too, they're too, like, they're just really of the sand. They're sex pests. They're sex pests. But, like, even their, um, one of the facts is that their urine has been used in, like,

certain, like, traditions. People drink their urine, use them as medicines. There's not a whole lot of scientific evidence I found that proves that it's a good idea. No. It's, like, super concentrated. God, Sophie, how did you? meeting with Picks, I go. Oh my God.

No, you don't understand. He drinks the urine and then... It's super concentrated, and that's the way it works. And then he's sort of, yeah. Yeah, so there's, like, there's a traditional thing of drinking cow urine in India, for instance, right? But they do think that because camels, they don't have as much water in their body, that it is more concentrated.

And whatever good stuff is in cow urine, it's even better in camel urine. That's the idea. Oh, right. Do you think that's true? What I said is true Whether it's good for you I think perhaps not Feels strong, it feels like strong stuff

Yeah yeah I think not Is that where the milk is so tart Because it's because they It's not very tart Okay I don't want to I don't want to offend the camels of Jordan

It was just a bit It was different I actually think that goat milk It's probably as weird No offence Yeah As goat milk Because goat milk

Because goat milk tastes a bit Goaty doesn't it Yeah Does it can you get a bit of camel taste in it or not? I think I've not done a comparative study. It was sort of multi. Right. Okay.

I mean it's all milk multi, is that the point of malt? No. It was multier than milk. Like oval tea. I just actually had my first Ovalteen. Bullshit. You have Ovalteen every night, Andy. There's no doubt about that. Let me finish. I just finished my first jar of Oval tea in a while.

Really? The first jar of the year? I hadn't had it for years and years. and years, then my wife said, I've never had it. And I said what you said to me, Jets, and I said, bullshit. I can't, I can't believe you've never had it. So I rushed out. What time of day does this? Went to your dealer.

I went to the all night shop. It was two in the morning. I got a jar. Anyway, for the last three weeks, I've been trying to push Ovalteeer my wife who actually doesn't like the taste of Ovalteen. Yeah. Anyway, I got a quick just camel's quiz. What this story is? I just wanted a sort of part one, part two, to break it up. It's so good.

Quick camel quiz. Yes, brilliant. Okay. So, why should you not, if you're in the desert, step into camel dung? Well, I mean, for the, get some of your shoes? Yeah, that is also a correct answer, even though that's not the one I have on my sheet. Smells bad, bad vibes. Oh, you might injure some of the smaller life forms which rely on it as a, as a, as a You know, dumb beetles and stag beetles, they use it. I was thinking perhaps similarly, but maybe it's like some poisonous animals live in it.

Yeah. Who might bite your feet. Lovely. I thought that it's so toxic that it would melt your foot off at it. That's good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I mean, these are probably all correct. Sophie's one a bit lesser, but maybe the rest of them.

This is, I mean, it's a stretch, my answer. I'm just making a fun quiz here. But you don't want to do it because you might explode. entirely. And that is because during the Second World War, the German tanks, if they saw a camel dung, would roll over it. It was seen as a sort of good luck charm. The allies heard about this. And so what they started doing was making Camel Dung landmines. So they looked in the facade of it on top and so that would lower. So like we know that bombs still exist, you know, in the basements. You know, we're always finding unexploded World War II bombs. There's probably

Camel Dung landmines still out there in the desert waiting. worry in there you go gosh whenever I next have the urge to jump into a pile of shit in the okay it is time for fact number two and that is my fact my fact this week is that the first woman to ever direct

a film was a guy I was recently sitting on a plane and we're about to do fact picking and I desperately needed like one killer fact and I was like how am I going to find it plane's about to take off and on the screen in front of me was the in-flight entertainment and there was a documentary called Alice Guy, the first female filmmaker. And I thought, wow, that's really exciting. A, I have no idea

who this person is. And B, it turns out that she's extraordinary. Turns out that this is one of the most seminal filmmakers of our time. The innovation that she created is something that means she should be held up there with like the Lumier brothers up there with the Spielbergs, the Scorsese. This is someone whose name should be a household name and no one. virtually knows who she is. Well, first of all, was she French? She was French, yeah. So would she pronounce it, gie? Yeah, I think Alice Gie would probably be her name. And she had a second surname, which was her husband's surname that she took on. So it was Alice Gie Blanche. Blanche, I think. Blanche. So hang on, what's the fact again in the light

of these? But she not only was the first female director, but she was the first female director for about a decade. Like, she just really owned the field. It was a period where, of Obviously, men were just saying, you're not capable of doing this. She's also acknowledged as possibly being one of the first two people to pioneer the idea of narrative filmmaking as well. Up until this point, everything was just sort of showing a train pulling in the station or people walking out of a factory where she gave it a story and she turned it into a narrative. So, yeah, hugely important. Very cool. She lived until she was 94, which was 1968, that she died.

And I think by that time only about three of her films were still available. And she made a thousand or was involved in a thousand, you know, directing, producing, supervising. And I think a lot more have been made available since she died. Or are they just rediscovered? We keep finding them, yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. She was, when the Louie has made the first ever film, this was in 1895, she was in the room when that happened. As in there was a private showing and her boss, who's a guy called Gaumont, was invited.

because they thought that Gomont might want to buy the equipment and kind of sell it on to people. And he was quite interested because he thought people would buy it so they could make videos of their children. That's what he thought this new technology would be of motion pictures. He was right.

So he did buy some of these cameras and then he allowed Alice Gee to use them because he thought it was just like a toy. It was just like a, you know, he didn't really take it that seriously. So he just let her do it. And then suddenly she became the, biggest, you know, the biggest deal in filmmaking.

Yeah, and her first movie, there's a few variations on the title, but one of the English translations is The Cabbage Fairy. And it's basically a narrative about how babies are born through cabbage patches. And we had an episode with Beck Hill on where we were trying to work out, when did anyone think you were born from a cabbage patch? You're talking about the Cabbage Patch Kids. Oh, my God. This goes all the way back.

And the Cabbage Patch Kids is, yeah, and she's partly responsible for the cabbage patch thing. That's amazing. You look like you had cabbage patch kids. I don't know they're scary I don't like them But I do love talking about France And the folklore is that

Boys are born from cabbages But girls are born from roses Right And I don't want to be so Still to this day That's how French people are born There are claims that she invented The music video

Which I like I think a pretty early Prototypical form of it Because she used a thing called Chronophone in 1905 which is where you filmed the singer's lip syncing and then you'd play a pre-recorded track simultaneously with it.

Yeah. But also, I mean, the list kind of goes on and on for what she innovated in the world of film. So we've got the first narrative movies. We've got the first movies where gender roles were swapped and they showed men at home sewing and doing the housework and the women

actually going off and being actually at, you know, big business jobs and so on, which was... Wasn't that in the year 2000? That was the, I think, the name of that film. That's brilliant. She did the first all African-American film. No one had done that to that point.

That was 1912, a fool in his money. Apparently, it was a bit sort of behind, though, in terms of the racial politics at the time. But it was the first time African-Americans were cast into films entirely in a film. So she did so many things that were just unbelievably forward-thinking. Yeah. And this is right at the beginning of filmmaking.

She made the first Fast and Furious film? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With a young Vin Diesel It's pronounced Van On the fool and his money It was another one of her works That was considered lost for ages

And then it was found in a flea market In Stockton, California So she's left like little Easter eggs I mean maybe not deliberately But she's got her finger into loads of cinematic pies I do like the sound of her masterpiece The Life of Christ Yeah

Sounds good there's a huge, like huge film, 35 minutes long, which at the time was an epic Lord of the Rings style. Do you think people after 20 minutes were going half a fuck sound? God,

glows were exploding. But that's the thing for a film that was 35 minutes long in total. And again, 1906, so incredibly early film days, it had 25 different sets for a 35 minute film. Okay.

And 300 extras. But 300 extras is, you know, if you're filming a scene where there's a big crowd. Sure. But at the time, it was impressive stuff, I guess. Yeah, definitely. They had the first ever pan shot, didn't it? Really?

So she kind of panned across these 300 people. People must have freaked out. I know. What's everything? Well, you know that thing about the train? So I think we've mentioned this once before on this show, which is that one of the earliest films was, was it the Lumiers? Was it?

Yeah, it was a train arriving at some gar. It was a French coastal town called La Ciotat. And it was one shot, 50 seconds. And the urban legend is that people freaked out and ran to the back of the room because they were so perturbed at the train coming towards them. And there aren't actually contemporary sources. And also the train is coming in diagonally. So it doesn't look like it's going to burst into the room.

But I think I buy it actually. And I'm saying about it despite there being no evidence contemporarily that it actually happened. But people react to films. People shout at, you know, or people shout in a big way at the cinema. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's a big, there's a big trend going on at the moment on, it's either Instagram or TikTok.

I've seen the video where you expect something to happen and the person filming it tricks you by throwing the object at the camera. Right. And I probably went, whoa, so you can produce that effect. Right. So I buy it as well. Yeah. I buy it three.

Three, four. No, I don't buy it at all. That's all. That's a bullshit. I think it's classic of, isn't it funny how these people are. in the past were more stupid than us that they would fall for this kind of thing. I also have no evidence.

I think you are probably right. I was reading about Florence Lawrence. What's so funny about Florence Lawrence? First ever movie star maybe. Really? Yeah, so she was making very early films, but she insisted that her name beyond the credits.

Because in those days, it would just be actors and you wouldn't say who was in it. And she became quite well known. so she could insist that her name would be on there. And she was originally vaudeville. She was known as Baby Flo, the Child Wonder Whistler. So she would go on stage with her mum, and she would be an amazing whistling. Really?

Yeah. And she also was one of the first people to own a car, and she invented the indicator on a car and the stop-breaking lights on a car. Oh, the lights, okay. She invented breaks everyone before then They're all still driving around What are we gonna do? It was like speed It was like very very slow

And they're all going at 10 miles and out So fine Her's slightly different So her indicator It was like the shape of an arm And she would press a button And the arm would sort of wave To the side that she was gonna go

More fun Much more fun And then the stop sign would be like A arm coming out going I'm gonna stop I'm gonna stop At the back of the car That's so cool

It's clever isn't it But yeah She was like the first film star as well What a pivot in her career. That's so cool. The thing about her, back to A. Guy, is that I love that she was so active in trying to scout for the locations that she would put herself into weird situations. So she was almost like an immersive documentary maker at the same time. She'd go to orphanages and she would integrate herself there and she would go to...

No, wait. No, hang out. She would live as a child. Can you imagine Daniel Day Lewis turns out of an orphanage. pretend I'm not here, guys. Daniel Day Lewis in his little red wig. Yeah, no, sorry, that's the wrong term. But, like, she would go to opium parlors.

She would go to... Okay. She would go to prisons. She was invited to watch... Actually, yeah, it does sound just like a wild night, actually. Crazy night last night. I'm going to be in an orphanage. Wow, that does sound cool.

Yeah, and I quite like that she used to have a sign on her, so kind of like in Ted Lassau where Believe was up on the wall, she used to have a sign up on all of her sets, which was Be Natural and the idea for actors and so on. I mean, another innovation of sort of like, you know, let's just make this look like a normal thing. Oh, just so cool, yeah. I think she's cool.

I've got a fact about people that she possibly might have inspired because, like, we talked about a fool of his money, maybe not the, not a film that would translate today but had the first all African-American cast so that was in 1912 and in 1919 Oscar Michaud

who's like considered to be the first African-American filmmaker he made his first film so like that's a whole like seven years beforehand also I think one of the first female African-American directors Maria P. Williams worked on the Flames of Roth but she okay so this is how she died

I'm bringing up because it's very mysterious. Okay, so she produced and wrote in this film and the same year her husband died and she went on to marry another man and then she died in 1932 this is Maria P. Williams after being called

away from her home by a stranger who requested help for his ill brother and then was found shot to death on the side of a road several miles from her home. Oh my God. And the murder remains unsolved. Ironically the plot for Flames of Roth concerns the investigation of a murder after a robbery.

Wow That is interesting How do you solve a problem like Maria P. Williams? Just one weird thing off the back of Maria P. Williams Oh yeah? So the guy who invented the film camera Louis Le Prins,

French guy, moved to Leeds and created the film camera five years before anyone else did. So he was pre-Lumier brothers, he was pre-everybody basically, he made a working film camera, he made some films in Round A Leeds and then he disappeared.

Really? I have no idea what happened to him either. He may have been bumped off. There is a kind of lurid theory that Edison had him knocked off. Really? Really? Really. But he was first, first by years as well.

Louis Leoprance. Yeah. In Leeds? Yeah, he's got such a sexy name and then it's like, not that Leeds makes it less sexy, but it sort of changes the vibe. Leeds is a very sexy place, isn't it? Is it? I went on a mini walking tour of Leeds after our last show there.

Work up in an orphanage. Is it the one who There was one who kind of got on a train And then they never saw them again Is it that one? I think it's him I don't know I think it's this guy

Is it? Yeah I didn't write down How are you not missing But yeah When you're on a film set They call it a shoot Coincidence

Oh yeah I thought a long time before saying that And I think it's good It's good than I did No need for doubt that Can I give you a quick quiz Before we move on Yeah

Raquel Welsh, the actor, has a world record. She's done something 15 times that no one else has done 15 times. Raquel Welch who just died? Yeah. Raquel Welch of the fur bikini from 1 million years BC. Yeah. The very same. She's done something 15 times.

Yeah. Is it a film related record? It's a female film actor related thing. She was the first female film actor to... Bring it home. She used to answer questions on her. for bikini 15 times

I don't know The start of that sentence she runs such a good run their selfie and then it went wrong at the end I'm not familiar with Raquel Wales sorry

15 times Did she play the same person 15? No she didn't she did the same action 15 times in different movies A gesture

A V sign Did she do like the clapboard thing with a Oh that's good Yeah stop it Like the MGM roar

Did she do a sort of That was her No that was a lion A gesture A tiger actually A tiger Sorry

The chicken dance Shook her fist. No. She did the YMC. That's good. I feel like we're going to be here a long time. Did she change the spelling of her name 15 times? No.

She held the world record for kicking a male character in the balls in a movie. Wow. With 15. Wow. Isn't that great? That is an incredible fact. Do we know who's the kickee? It was a different kickee each time.

Oh. Wow. So it's a different movie. She was almost like her catchphrase. her signature move. God, that'd be terrible when you're sort of going, oh, this one exciting role,

who's my co-lead? Fuck, Raquel. Okay, it is time for fact number three, and that is Andy. My fact is that half of American men are confident they could safely land a plane if the pilot was incapacitated.

That's reassuring. It is, isn't it? As long as two American men are on your flight, one of them will be fine to do it. Yeah. This is a survey that you've conducted. They asked 20,000 adults, I think adults all in America, whether they would be quite confident, very confident, not confident, not at all confident,

or they didn't know whether they would be able to land a plane. And I think overall it was a third of people who said they could do it, and 46% of men, 20% of women, so buck up. You know, and also they specified a couple of things. They specified, you get help from air traffic control. Things like that. So you're not just totally in the cockpit by yourself because obviously that would be incredibly terrifying.

Yeah. And young people also more confident than older people. People between 18 and 44, again, nearly half of them think, yeah, I could do that. Yeah. Those over 45, less sure of themselves. Yeah. So let's do a little survey around here. Sophie, do you think you could?

Do I think I could land a plane? Land a plane. You've got a headset on? You've got a headset on. You've got a headset on. Okay. Yeah, I'm getting into it. I've got a headset on.

I've got my... No. No. Absolutely not. They're all dead. He's also... No, in my scenario, they've just been knocked out. They've just had some dodgy fish, right? Exactly, yeah. They're awake. They're just a bit... They're feeling a bit queasy, so they decided to knock off shift.

Okay. In my one, I look at the pilots, and one is Maria, the film maker. And the other is the Leedsman, Le Prance. Yeah. I think I could land a play. Okay, okay. That's good to hear. good good that wasn't a test where you're like that. Oh yeah.

Actually, the microphones leave. The walls of their room disappear. We're in a plane. I think I could, but I would do it extremely reluctantly. Yeah. That's what the passengers want to hear over there's time on, isn't it? I don't really want to, but we'll be landing in the next 15 minutes. Yeah.

One way or another. That's exciting. Okay, Andy. I think I probably couldn't, actually. Couldn't. Couldn't? I mean, I would give it my best shot, but I think that moment where the, the, the ground comes up really quite first where you're landing and you're going very, very

far, just going over 100 miles an hour. I think it would be very hard. Yeah. I'm not saying they would clap for me. I'm just saying. Dan? I think technically I couldn't, but I mentally, I would say yes to trying it. Because I think this is the thing. You need someone to give it to go. Someone's got to try and do it. And I think if I was put in that position, I would say, okay, yeah, I'll give it a go. I'm going to have assistance. Yeah. I can't, I don't think I can't do it. Although my wife's a helicopter pilot, I think I've said on here before that she says that I'd have about 50-50 chance of landing a helicopter. Okay, right.

Having watched her do it, so I know what she's doing. But having spoken to some commercial pilots, because we talked about this on QI, I don't think I will be able to do it now. It is hard. If you're in the situation, we should say, the most important thing to do is find the headset, put it on, and find the emergency frequency because they do monitor that. And also, if you're speaking to someone, take your finger off the button, you finish speaking. Because otherwise, no more here. They can't get back to you.

But that was the funniest thing about this whole survey is that when they talk to pilots about it, I think in your head, you think, yeah, I'll just open the door, put on the headset, it's all going to be fine. They're like, you won't even get past the headset moment in trying to land this plane. You don't even get past the door in much. Yeah, they obviously got very secure cockpit. When I asked my wife about this, because like I say, she is a pilot, that she literally said exactly what they say on these things.

She was like, well, like, will I be able to tell what the headset is? that's the first thing she said. It's weird because you would think it would just be there, right? You know what it's like when you can't find your earphones and you're like you're busy and you're heading out? Yeah. They actually have tried this as well. They've tried this study. New Zealand's University of Waikato asked 780 people if they could land a small plane quotes without dying or as well as a pilot could.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so this is really interesting. Some of them got shown a four minute video of pilots landing a plane, right? but the video didn't show the pilot's hands. So actually, it was a useless video. In terms of actually learning how to land a plane, totally useless, right? But people who had seen the video were more confident in their abilities than people who hadn't seen the video. It's called a rapid illusion.

You see someone doing something and you think, yeah, okay, I broadly understand how that works. Yeah, yeah. And actually, you don't. Here's the other thing. It's like, okay, you've got through this impenetrable door. Well done. Stage one, done. You found the headphones.

You've somehow worked out the emergency frequency of 121.5. You've worked out to take your finger off the button so that you could hear them. Surely you're on your home stretch. You're coming in. But then they make the point, you're talking to an air traffic controller. He doesn't know how to land a plane? They're just telling you that the space is free. Yeah, come on down, you're fine.

So there's been cases where in the past, people have had to have guidance to be landed by an air controller and they've had to go, hang on, let me go find someone who knows how to land a plane and have to go and bring them and help them get guided down. I really dislike that this is how a plane is landed. I really would have thought by now it was basically completely automated. There was no skill. Yeah. Well, the thing is they do have auto land. So an aeroplane does have auto land, but you need to program stuff into it. So you need to program in how fast you're coming in, what direction you're coming in from and you still have to click when you want your flaps to come down whatever that means. And also when you want your landing gear to come down, whatever that. No, I know

what that means. And they need to be done at exact moments and you need to know when that is. So even though you have autoland, you still need to do stuff. Yeah. And it's and then on top of that, even if you if you're on a, let's say, a Boeing big airplane and we need a pilot to land this, you need to know what your plane is. It's like going into a different kind of car. You can't just like, I think it's even more complicated than that. What I mean is... As in I can get into a higher car and I'm fine. I don't need to brag.

Do you have a fort fiesta? Because that's all I can drive. It's all qualified on. No, I guess the point is that you need to... With a plane, you absolutely need to know how to land a Boeing plane versus a biplane versus. I think it's never happened with a big commercial passenger plane. I don't think a situation's ever come up. Because often, I mean, loads of flights have pilots who are flying as passengers.

They call them Deadhead Crew, and they just, you know. But it has happened once or twice. In 2009, there was a pilot who was flying from Florida to Mississippi, and the pilot died. And the passenger, Doug White, was on board with his family, family of four. And he had a private pilot certificate, although he wasn't familiar with the plane. But he did manage it. Because the air traffic control people, they found a flight instructor who guided them down in that plane. There you go.

Had to run off and get a flight. Flying instructor, right? Yeah, but that was, obviously, that was a small plane of, you know, happened last year, 2020. Did it? Yeah, around Florida. The pilot collapsed or something. We don't know exactly what happened. There was a guy in there with him. It was a very small plane. And he sat there and the controls, doesn't know what to do, rings traffic control. And they say, well, where are you? He's like, well, how the fuck should I know? Yeah. He's like, well, can you see the coast? And he's like, yeah, we can see the coast. And they said, okay, well, fly, either north or south, just follow the coast.

And then the air traffic controllers could look on their screen and they looked for a plane that was following the coast in any direction and they managed to work out it was them and they managed to get them down. You're looking so stressed, Sophie. It's really upsetting me. Are you an anxious flyer normally before we've told you all this stuff? No, I thought I could land a plane. I've been so confident. That's so funny. I was once in a helicopter with my wife and when you're on the, when you're on the plane.

on the radio you can hear what everyone else is doing and we were just flying along wherever we were going and there was a guy who was like help help get me out of here get me out of here telling the air traffic control and apparently what happened was the red arrows were flying past him he was in a tiny little plane and he's like there's red arrows on my left there's red arrows on my right

what do what do I do he's leading the red arrows at that moment Just release the smoke, like the others, just time it right. Wave to the king. I'm not really sure of plain etiquette generally when I was going to America. I didn't realize that you're not allowed to drink the alcohol that you buy duty-free on the plane. Oh, okay. Yeah.

No, they ask you not to. That is a fact. So, yeah, I was like, oh, this is a great hat. We'll buy, we'll buy, like, a bottle of whiskey. So I was sitting on a plane and, like, just pouring, like, doubles and triples for me and my friend, Lori. and the hostess Walt Parsons was like, you're not allowed to do that, you're not allowed to drink that

on the plane, so we both just thought that she'd meant this like, bottoms up. So we were like, so sorry, and I was just like trying to drink them. She was like, you can't have that on here, so we're trying to get rid of it. I had never been kicked off a flight though, but in May 2013 somebody was kicked off a flight for doing the most amazing thing, which was

singing Whitney Houston song, I will always love you repeatedly. First renditioned, okay, well, that's a bit annoying, but, you know, fine. Second third edition's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then decreasing return. Was it Stuart Lee, who did it? It was Stuart Lee on a domestic service from Los Angeles to New York.

And it was diverted, so it didn't actually land where it was meant to land. It can't be diverted because of this. It was diverted to Kansas City so they could remove the woman to play. This reminds me of a song. They landed it in Motown in Detroit. Oh my God, that's so... Oh, wow. But why was the passenger...

Who was the passenger? I assumed she was mentally unwell. Right. I haven't... Well, I mean, I assumed that. She might just have been a legend. It's a fine line. When she was led off in handcuffs, she was still singing, so...

Wow. Can I tell you one more thing about overconfidence? Yeah, it does. Which is what it was about. So, I just looked up other surveys of what people think they can do. Yeah, brilliant. So there was a survey about what people... What works of art people think they could...

replicate. Oh yeah. And it went from, so Mondrian is that, that's quite, it's just lines and blocks of colour. Malievich I could do that black, it's just a black square.

Okay, perfect. So one in three Americans think they could replicate Mondrian's composition in red, blue and yellow, which is quite, it's a bit more complicated,

but it's mostly sort of straight lines and blocks of color. 23% think they could do Van Gogh's self-portrait with a straw hat, which is one of the great. If you're doing a Van Gogh self-portrait and you're replicating it,

Do you draw Van Gogh or draw yourself in a straw hat? Oh, sorry, you're just replicating that work of art. Got it. You don't have to cut off your own ear. It's fine. 18% thought they could replicate Vermeer's The Milk Made, which is one of the great works by a Dutch master. It's really, really, really beautiful.

Yeah. And get this, 11% of Americans think they could probably or definitely replicate Michelangelo's David. Wow. Probably or definitely. Probably. I'll say probably. I don't want to see vain. Do you have to do it exact or could you do it like? I think you need to get a pretty dead on.

Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. That's amazing. Half of British men between 16 and 24 think they could dodge a train. Oh, I reckon I could dodge a train. Yeah, but I mean, like, what qualifies is dodging a train? Good point. If you're trespassing on the tracks. Well, the thing is about trains is they can only go where the tracks are, so all you have to do is get off the tracks and you've dodged it.

Well, you two, Dan and James, part of the problem, right? Of young men trespassing on railway tracks. I know that is a problem, yeah. Thinking you can get off in time. And actually, it's very confusing when you're on tax because all the train noise goes out to the side. Yeah, yeah.

This is a weird thing. It's harder to tell than you think when there's a train coming along. So Network Rail a while ago asked rapper Retch 32. Oh, we've met him. Who met him at once on Sunday brunch. Sunday brunch. Yeah.

It was a classic, it was a classic booking pairing. I think it's Retch 3-2. Retch 3-2. Yeah. Yeah. That was a fell power of me when you told him. Rex 32. I called it Mr. 32. It's called Rets 3-2?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is it 3-2 instead of 32? He's dead after a football score. Yeah. Because it looks like 32, doesn't it? I actually don't know why it's 3-2. Where's the 1? I don't know.

Where's the what? The 1? 3-2. It's a countdown. Retch 3-2. Oh, right. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3-2.

Here's a train. These are the mysteries, Andy. Why is it thicky and not thick? Why is it woken and not weekend? These are the problems of our podcast. What did Wretch 3-2 do? They asked him to test what it's like being on the tracks when the train is coming in. By putting him in a simulator, Matt White, yeah, yeah.

And he said, yes, it is actually very quiet and confusing and it's easy to be. And he said he had great hearing, but actually it was confusing. Yeah. What a great team up of Network Rail and Retch 3-2. Yeah. That is incredible. trying to get to young men basically, who were more likely to be trespassing. Who knew how to pronounce his name.

Okay, it's time for our final fact of the show, and that is James. Okay, my fact this week is that the first person to use the phrase, roast beef sandwich in English, had a surname which is an anagram of the word steak. So good. It's a classic James fact, as in I don't think anyone has ever come up with this fact before now. This is new, right? I can't imagine anyone. have the time to do that.

But also, this is, you had a different fact, which we said, oh, we're not sure about it. So you came up with this. I love James always does this in desperation as well. This was real desperation. So my original fact was that John Keats, spoiler alert, the famous most romantic of the romantic poets claimed to be able to eat two dozen roast beef sandwiches in a single sitting, which he did say in one of his letters, but it's clear where. when Andy read it and pointed it out that actually he was saying metaphorically that he was so hungry I could eat two dozen sandwiches and perhaps he couldn't actually do it.

And we'd already researched roast beef sandwiches and keats. So I needed to find anything else about him. And it turns out in the OED that he's the first reference of roast beef sandwich and his name is an alleghous. That's where my brain went. Because he's not very a steaky kind of power. No, that's why I really likes about the original incorrect fact, is he's, he was quite waif-like, wasn't he, Keats? And he was very sort of, I don't want to say wishy-washy, but, you know, Byron would say that for sure. Yeah.

But, yeah. Big boy, Byron. Big boy, boy. Be me, me. Well, his burgers. Competitive eating champ, North Andaland, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of, yeah, Keith's, as a, so Keith, for anyone who is not a fan of Keats, John Keats, died. age, what, 25?

Yeah. And died of tuberculosis, consumption, which was a very poetic, seeming disease. You know, it was associated with creative types. And wrote everything he wrote, obviously, before the age of 25. Basically, all Keats' poems are early keys because there was no late keys. Yeah. And still wrote a lot of really, actually, really good stuff. I was never a huge fan of Keats when I was studying because I did English.

But actually, I looked back and I thought, yeah, there are some real bangers here. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, it's not Early Keats, because early Keats, he burnt up, didn't he? His earliest poems. Wow. So he just thought, I don't like these. And so he just, he burnt those over fire.

So actually we don't have early Keats. We've got sort of mid-keats. Right. Yeah. So I was weirdly drawn to Keats' diet as well. So I heard that he was voluntarily vegetarian. Oh, was he? To like sort of cure himself of his love sickness for Fanny.

Right. His big love. But also he got put on a lot of fad diets by his doctor, who, shall I say, did not have his best address at art. and prescribed him a diet of bread, milk and anchovies because he thought that his tuberculosis was in his stomach. Yeah. So... It was hard because when you read his writing,

he seemed to really love his food. And yet he just had to eat all of this really bland stuff. It must have, he must have hated it. Doctors at the time were just so bad. As in his doctor misdiagnosed his tuberculosis as, I think, stress. Oh, yeah. No, I think. He said that mental exertions and applications.

So basically he's a little nerd that thinks too much. Yeah. And they bled him way too much. They took pints of his blood, which is not helpful. Is any amount of bleeding good? I guess it might have helped some conditions, but I can't think of any which would have been helped. But I mean, Lord Byron also was bled hugely, as in they took pints and parts of Byron's blood. And they made him very weak and they contributed to his death.

Yeah. But he also, he did, you know, he was a bit fussy about his food. There's a story. And this is right at the end of his days. So he did die very young at tuberculosis. And one of the ways that he tried to cure it, was to get out of the UK and go to Rome and sort of try and soak up the sun. And so he was staying there with his friend Joseph Severin.

And they stayed at this house. And there was a landlady there who used to make them food every single day. And he hated it. Hated this food. She used to make them spaghetti. And he just absolutely hated it. He's in Rome when they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so one day she comes in, hands them spaghetti. He takes the plate, keeps eye contact with her, walks over to the window, opens it up. And while maintaining the eye contact just spills the plate out and all its contents onto the ground. to make his point rather than just saying could we get something else? Oh, child. Yeah.

And actually lots of the stories about him they make him a bit more kind of you know, physical and like he wasn't such a milk toast after all. He was fighting, didn't he? Well, I was saying he trained as a surgeon was the thing I didn't know about him. He trained as a doctor. Yeah. And, you know, he would set broken bones

and he was a dresser at Guy's Hospital and he would assist with surgery. One of his jobs was to remove amputated limbs from the field of surgery. So it's quite a stressful and impressive job to have. Yeah, I read one article asking if he might have been a grave robber. Wow. Because at the time, the surgery practice, they would do it on dead bodies.

And you were allowed, like, maybe two dead bodies a year who were, like, executed criminals or something like that. But you needed more. And so they had these resurrectionists who would go around getting bodies out of graves and sell them to the surgeons. But there was a couple of people called the Burrugang. and the burrogang were famous for being body snatchers, but apparently around that time that Keats was working there,

they'd decided they would go on strike. They wanted more money for their bodies, and so they would stop giving the bodies. And so the surgeons had to go out themselves and steal bodies from graves. And the suggestion might be that maybe Keats, because he was there at the time that this was happening. I was a great suggestion.

I hope it. I mean, I love it. How do you go on strike as a body snatcher as well? Where do you stand? Do you stand outside the hospital? graveyard. And what are you, what are your signs say? But there's like one of his famous poems, which is called Isabella. It's about a woman who keeps the head of her love, of her father, lover, one of the two. I think lover. Lover. Lover in a pot of Basel. And he explains what it looks

like, this, you know, decapitated head. And we think because he works as a surgeon, he knew, you know, he knew what dead bodies were like. So his poems were real. Yeah, he lived a proper life. Here's one thing we don't know about Keith We don't know if he ever rode a bike Oh, okay Because he would have had the chance to Yeah, brilliant This was the

The Velocopede was the very early It got called the Dandy Horse as well It's a bike with no pedals basically So you straddle it And you wheel it along the ground With your feet Like a kid's bike, like a very early start a bike for kids Except this was the most fashionable thing

Yeah And we know that he wrote to his brother George who'd left for America in 1818 He wrote to his brother saying The New Thing Today is a machine called the Velocopede. It is a wheel carriage to ride cockhorse on, sitting astride and pushing it along with the toes. And

it's very excited. So we know that he knew what they were, but we don't know if he ever had a go, because he doesn't say on the latter. Did he ever use roller skates? I don't think he did. Because his name's nanogram of skate, so it's just been... Oh, wow. That's great. See you, Sophie, this is what it's like.

Yeah. I feel like Pete's always seen that I did study English, but I don't remember having a great love for Keats, just because I think he was a bit more like, a bit like softer and gentler, which does tally with Ben Whishall playing him in 2009 film, Bright Star. And Ben Wischel said that it was the highlight of his career so far. Play Keats? Yeah. But that was pre-Paddington.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Who were your literary heroes when you did English? Literary heroes. I mean, I think what my English degree did sort of, sort of kill any enjoyment or passion I had for the subject, but out of the romantics, I like Blake. I liked how he did all his little etchings as well Who else did I like that? Were you a Byron fan?

Yeah That's a bit of a dividing jets and sharks thing Byron and Keats, you know, Beatle Stones Oh yeah, you can only... Well, a little bit, a little bit As in Byron is much more fun There are many more jokes in Byron It's just fun

But also they had a rivalry during their long time Well, Byron was a bit rude about Keats I don't know if Keats was ever rude back about Byron Probably couldn't think of anything but no actually he did run a lot of great stuff keys obviously he is one of the greats interestingly byron when he died

so he died out in Greece in Greece he was in was it a lake or the ocean I remember it was the ocean I think right he drowned no Shelley drowned yeah Byron died of fever sorry sorry he did swim across the bus for us Byron didn't he but he didn't drown I don't know he died sorry I've confused yeah

when part of identifying who Shelley was when they found him was not only his clothes, but he had a book of Keats's poetry in his pocket. Oh, really? Yeah, Shelley carried around the book, Keith. So Percy Shelley was a vegetarian. We talked about earlier how Keats ended up having to be a vegetarian, but Percy Shelley was a vegetarian because, well, it's quite forward thinking, I guess, at the time.

So he thought that animals used too much land. And around that time, there was kind of a lot of Malthusian, kind of the population is going to go through the roof, everyone's going to starve. And so he decided to become a vegetarian. for that reason. But the only thing he would be tempted by was to eat bacon. And he just couldn't not eat bacon.

And there was a guy, a friend of his called Thomas Jefferson Hog. And Thomas Jefferson Hogg used to just, whenever he saw him, he used to just give him bits of bacon and say, oh, just have a bit of bacon, Shelley. That's so funny. Because that is a really good reason for being vegetarian, but it is also, bacon is also the thing that a lot of vegetarians or something that's come a crop over.

Yeah, yeah. While we're on food, just back to Keats for a second. He also loved jam. He at least ate it. So we don't know if he rode a bicycle, but we do know that he ate jam because. We're piecing it. Because he, because he apologized for spilling some jam on a letter that he'd written. And so he wrote, and he also invented new words as a result of this, or a new word as a result of this. So he wrote, after spilling the jam, I have licked it, but it remains very purplu. I don't know whether to say purple or blue. So wrote purplu, which may be an excellent name for a colour made up of those two. Perplu.

That's how you get to be one of the grace. That's the flavour of early Keats. It's per plough period. I was going to ask, it was mulberry jam because in the Keats' house in Hampstead where he lived and fell in love with his neighbour, there is a mulberry tree, an ancient mulberry tree, which they think that, like, people hypothesise he stood under and wrote O to a Nightingale, but whether or not it was there, when he was there. Hard to know.

It has been adopted into the Queen. They should rest in peace. Had a collection of ancient trees, less than 100 ancient trees and it's formed part of the Queen's canopy. Wow. What a collection just around the country of... Yeah.

Of just real old trees. I think that's nice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've got a riddle for you. Oh, yeah. Okay. The most famous painting of Keats.

Yeah. Right. It's of him at Wentworth Place. It shows him sitting and coming up with his most famous poem. Yeah, I feel like I could knock one of them out. No problem.

Well, join the queue with a third of American men. So he's dead in the painting. Oh. What? Okay. So. What? Riddle me that.

So someone's painted him, right? And when they painted him, his body was the thing they were painting. So it's painted in 1834. He died in 1821. Oh, that's quite a long time. time afterwards. So, yeah. So the riddle is...

Oh, is it something like... Is it... There isn't a riddle. That's the problem with this. Well, none of you just come up with an answer, so I feel like it is still a riddle actually. Did he, like, donate his skull to the theatre, and so it's his skull that's depicted in the...

No, nice, not bad. Is he painted as an angel? That's another good answer, but no, no, no. Seems like no one's sold my riddle. What's the riddle? How? How is he dead in a painting? How is he depicted?

so brilliantly. 13 years after he was a twin. So they just used the twin to model. His mother was the artist. That's right. And she said, I cannot paint this. It's my son. It's my son.

Okay. No. I don't understand. He was, shall I solve the riddle? He's dead in the painting because Halloween party? That's a Halloween party painting. Yeah, that's why. And there's a plastic bat in the corner.

No, no, no. Okay. It's that after his death, a death mask was made of him. And it was used as the model. And after Keats died in Rome, they made a death mask of his face. They also did his hand and his foot. And there were only two of these death masks for a long time. And one of them was kept by Joseph Seven.

And one was sent to his publisher, which I feel is a weird. I feel that is, as in if I died. Yeah. And we have two masks. And they can go to any two people. Exactly. Yeah. I would want one to go to my editor.

Yeah. But no, that's what was painted of him 13 years later was that's Yeah, and the frame of this painting This is so, this is quite romantic, capital art Has a lock of his hair In the frame of the painting So it's a little bit of Keats in that original picture

That's amazing, good riddle Thank you Speaking of siblings of Keats Yeah His little sister was called Fanny Which is the same name As the woman that he was in love with Yeah

What creepy little boy? No No Can't stop a thing is it that he can't very You can't marry someone with the same name as your sibling. Well, they didn't get married. He just loved her unrequited. Unrequitedly, I think.

They were engaged, but they never married. And then he died very young. I don't think it can be unrequited if they got engaged. That's not unrequited, isn't it? You're right. You're absolutely right. That's what my now wife said to me. She said, I will say yes, but just so you know, it's not requited.

Well, Fanny never took his ring off. So Keats gave her a ring. and for the rest of her life, even though she remarried she always wore the ring that Keith gave her. You think it's a bit of a kick of the guts to her second husband.

A bit of a raccoon-well- I think that's because he's such a romantic... No, actually it's worse that he's one of the great romantic poets. By the way, one of the best and most romantic poets ever loved me and gave me this ring. It's a lot of pressure

when you're writing a Valentine's card, isn't it? Rose is red, one's on purple, you. Okay, that's it. That is all of our facts. Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to get in contact with any of us about the things that we've said over the course of this podcast, we can be found on our Twitter accounts. I'm on at Schreiberland, James. At James Harkin. Andy. At Andrew Hunter M. and Sophie.

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