No Such Thing As A Fish - No Such Thing As Terrestrial Sweetcorn

Episode Date: October 3, 2014

Episode 29 - Dan (@schreiberland), James (@eggshaped), Anna (@nosuchthing), and Andy (@andrewhunterm) discuss alien chess, whirling chairs, criminal theme tunes and how to get drunk on a shark. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We run it on QI a few years ago. Yeah. Which was, there's no such thing as a fish. I mean there's No Such Thing as a Fish. No, seriously. It's in the Oxford Dictionary of Underwater Life. He says it right there. First paragraph, No Such Thing is a Fish.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast. Coming to you from the QI offices in Covern Garden. My name is Dan Shriver. I'm sitting here with three of the regular elves. It is James Harkin, Anna Chazensky, and Andy Murr. And once again, we've got our four favorite facts from the last seven days, and here they are in no particular order. James, starting with you. What's your fact? Okay, my fact this week is that the head of the International Chess Federation believes that chess was brought to Earth by aliens.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Wow. And he should know. Yeah. What kind of evidence does he have for that? He has first-hand evidence because he was abducted by aliens in 1997 and shown around the galaxy. and they told him the Earth is set to collide with the planet Nibiru, killing us all if mankind does not cleanse its aura
Starting point is 00:01:09 by playing more chess. Wow! In an interview in Time magazine, that was. What's the name again? Mr. Iljanov. He's a politician as well. He's the head of the Kalminkia province of Russia,
Starting point is 00:01:23 and he has friends such as Chuck Norris and he was friends with Saddam Hussein. Is he friends with David Ike? He should be. Why do these political guys, all these sort of like eccentric characters always have an American action hero as a good mate? They all have, you know, Chuck Norris being his mate or like Kim Jong-un having Dennis Rodman. Yeah, I guess it's like a trophy friend. Trophy American mate for some kind of buddy movie that may erupt one day.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Any biography movie done of a big political leader of our time is effectively going to come out like rush hour. Chuck Norris just quickly on him. I read this thing whereby he, despite being in violent movies, hates that his kids would have to watch violent movies, but they all want to watch his movies. So he does this thing where he edits out all the fight scenes from his movies and lets his kids watch that. And I cannot think of anything more painful
Starting point is 00:02:16 than watching a Chuck Norris movie without the fighting scenes. Do they think that he's in a load of 26-minute-long feature films? Just back to this guy, Mr. Ilyam Genov. he said that aliens gave us chess but he also said they gave us something else anyone know what it is is it a technology or an illness or a body part no sweet corn
Starting point is 00:02:39 he says they gave us sweet corn but he says it was a different civilization they gave us sweet corn maybe the Aztecs are the Inkins or something and are they threatening the world with destruction unless we eat as much sweet corn as humanly possible do you know what he's been more asked about the chess donation from space, then he has the sweet corn. I can't find anything else. You know what, guys, I was really
Starting point is 00:03:01 hoping this was going to be about chess. Yes, I'm going to. Let's go into chess. Can I tell the fact about chess? Yes, please. In 1999, Gary Kasparov, obviously, great chess champion, played the world at chess. Oh, yeah. He played 50,000 different people from more than 75 countries in one game. So they all submitted votes on what moves they should take as a team. And whichever move received most votes was the move that the world made against Gary Kasparov. four months, the game ended at Move 62, when 51% of the world team voted to resign. Wow. 49% must have been livid.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. But they weren't even acting on that. So 50,000 people, but they weren't even on their own, even as 50,000. They had four chess experts guiding them, acting as world team coaches and suggesting moves and strategies. So even with expert help, 50,000 people cannot beat Gary Kasparov. Gary Kasparov, when he, so famously, he obviously had the two. matches against Deep Blue, the supercomputer, the latter of which was in 90s. So he won the first
Starting point is 00:04:03 one, which was a set of six games. And then in 1997, he played another set of six games. And in the first game of the six, he won, but he basically had a mental breakdown after it had finished, because the computer had done what he thought was a completely ingenious move that even he couldn't understand. So Gary Kasperov was winning, but the computer moved a rook in a really random position and Gary Kasparov couldn't work out why that possibly would make any computing sense. So suddenly he went, oh my God, I can't work out the logic of what this computer is doing. It must be better than me. And that was the last game that he ever won against the computer because he became so frightened that, oh, this has superhuman intelligence. And actually,
Starting point is 00:04:43 one of the computer engineers admitted to Nate Silver 15 years later that there was a bug in the computer and it just resorted to randomly moving a piece totally at random. It would be better if someone had just moved the horse in the wrong way or something. He's like, what? Yes, that would have been horrible. Just knock the table over. Oh, my God, you can move a horse three up and five across. No one told me this.
Starting point is 00:05:06 He thought it was a sign that there were humans intervening with the computer. Oh, yeah, and he thought they were very... Just about your thing about Kasparo versus the world, Andy, I can go one better on that, which is the first ever world chess champion was called VILA. Helm Steinitz and he was a great player and he was he beat everyone and then he started to slightly lose his marbles a little bit and he challenged God to a match and he would play God quite often and he quite often beat God and he got so much better than God that he would start giving God like a pawn extra to try and make it a bit more even wait when you say he beat God
Starting point is 00:05:48 yeah it was God playing well I think he was like maybe slightly schizophrenic so he was getting in the getting the moves himself and go, oh, God did that. Oh, God, you idiot. And so he would be God and very sadly he ended up in a mental asylum and died penniless. But he was the first ever chess champion called Wilhelmstinitz. There is a debate about whether chess makes you mad or not. There's a really good Nabokov quote about the fact that everyone who plays chess must eventually go insane. But my favorite chess player is this guy called Nathan Shiransky, who is now an Israeli politician, I think,
Starting point is 00:06:20 but he was a human rights campaigner in Soviet Russia. And he was a childhood chess prodigy. And he was put in a Siberian prison in 1977 for nine years. And he said chess kept him sane. So he was in this tiny freezing cold cell. It was hardly given any food. It was completely dark. There was absolutely nothing in the cell just stone.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And he just played chess in his head against himself for nine years and said that that was the only way that he survived it. Wow. And that kept insane. I think it's in Iran. They banned the, you know, when you get the pawn to the, end and you can turn it into a queen. I think they banned that move because it promoted bigamy because then the king had two wives. Surely it would be promoting transvestism.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Are you assuming that ponds are men? Yes, I am. Are they? I don't know. I'm comfortable with that. Queens used to only be able to move less like they could only move one space in any direction. Yeah, they were rubbish. They were the worst. And then they could move like knights for a while for some reason, which is kind of bizarre because you would have thought knights can move like that because they're horses. Queen could do it too. Sorry. Just you'll see a lot. logic is like, well, they're on horses, so that makes sense. Actually, it's never struck me that that doesn't make sense, doesn't it, that knights can move two. Horses can jump over.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I think a horse can jump over a piece. But there's no particular reason why a horse would move two forward and one to the side at the same time. They're the evil canevals of the chess world. Do you guys, when you play Monopoly, are you going, okay, I'm going to get the car because that moves faster than a hat? This is a bit too much logic on the battle ship, blow up the iron. Yeah. Have you seen they brought out new pieces for the Monopoly board? They brought in a cat last year, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, they got rid of the iron or the old boot, possibly, and replaced it with a cat. But is it? Sorry, go on, Andy. Sorry, just on the monopoly thing. The cat won a vote, a popular online vote, and it beat a robot, helicopter, diamond ring and a guitar. And one of the guys from Hasbro said, I think there were a lot of cat lovers in the world that reached out. They're always bloody reaching out. Robot should have won. Robot should have won.
Starting point is 00:08:16 King Canute, who we all know, turned back the waves. he once had a chess game with an earl of his called Earl Ulf and he did a move I think it was a knight's move but he realized it was a bad one tried to take it back Earl Ulf said no you can't do that it turned into a massive argument canute tipped up the table went off in a huff and then had Earl Ulf killed wow Napoleon got really angry playing chess well according to one account Napoleon got really angry playing chess against the mechanical turk didn't he yeah we should explain who the mechanical mechanical turk was a fake chess machine that existed between 1770 and 1854 and it was theoretically it was this robot that was dressed up like a turk and it managed to beat napoleon franklin babbage other famous people at chess and it sort of toured the globe and it was this turkish man with a huge box on which he had a chess board that he apparently played by some robotic power so i don't know why no one ever said hey can this turk play without the huge box because Inside the huge box under the chessboard was obviously a guy who was controlling the chess pieces. Why does that box keep sneezing? Yeah. It's like, what? Maybe this is why the robot's not allowed on the Monopoly board.
Starting point is 00:09:32 All games it's been banned from. In case Napoleon puts him to death. But yeah, at one point, Napoleon, I think, wrapped a shawl around the mechanical Turks' head so that he wouldn't be able to see the board, which obviously didn't make a blind bit of difference. There was another famous chess player who always had excuses, and he'd lost five games in a row. He was five nil down. And he said, oh, the first one I lost because I had toothache,
Starting point is 00:09:59 and the second one I lost because I had a headache. And the third one I lost because I had rheumatism in my legs. And the fourth one I lost because I just wasn't feeling very well. And then they said, well, why did you lose a fifth one? And he said, what, am I expected to win every game? That was like when David Hay, after his... match where he lost. He's like, you know, it's, I twisted my ankle this morning and that was his excuse. No, he broke a toe. He broke a toe. Oh, I broke my toe and that really affected how I
Starting point is 00:10:31 punch with my arms. I just wish I'd learn. Oh, come on. That's all right. Yeah. What, your toe? Yeah. Yeah. You can't move. It can be really painful. No, he was, he was fine. Can I just say, can I just say, if David Hayes listening, I believe you. Oh, me too, actually. Yeah. Sorry, David. I don't, but I don't know who you are. I thought you were a chess player. Come on, let's bring weeded chess player hay over here. This is rash, guys. I'll break his other toe.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Okay, time for fact number two, and that is my fact. My fact this week concerns the Greenland shark, which is a shark I didn't know existed until a few days ago. What I love about it is the Greenland shark is so slow that it basically needs all of this. food to be asleep in order to eat it, because otherwise if it can move, anything can out swim it, because its fastest speed is one mile per hour. Why is it so slow? Because it's in cold water, and so it needs to preserve all of its energy and so on. They can do a little burst of speed,
Starting point is 00:11:33 can't they? The sharks? They can, but when they say, in everything I've read, I could be, if someone out there knows any different, because I'd love to know, apparently with the bursts of speed, they can only get up to about 1.6 miles and out. So that's their burst of speed. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, it's not so much a burst, is it? They're amazing looking. They're 20 feet long as well. They're huge. Yeah, they're ginormous. Yeah. So it eats seals, the Greenland shark, and the problem with eating seals is that it's fine if they can manage to get the seal, but the seal can swim at two miles per hour. So it's always just in front of this shark who's giving it its all going, come on. It's not always just in front. It's always increasing its distance. That's true. That's true. By a mile every
Starting point is 00:12:13 hour. So basically, they have to wait to find a sleeping seal. And here's the thing. And here's the thing. thing, the seals, their main predator or the polar bears, up on the ice, and they would rather be in the ocean and risk being asleep, because they can probably have a good sleep, notice a shark on its way, and by the time it wakes up, it can still get away. Yeah, you could press snooze quite a few times before it gets you, couldn't. But they're extraordinary creatures, just generally, their skin is poisonous. I don't know if I've read about that within any other sharks. Not the rest of them, too. They're flesh as well.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Sorry, that's, yeah, yeah, so they're completely poisonous. We couldn't eat them. And do you know what it does to you if you eat it? Do you know the effects it has? What's the poison? So the poison is trimetalane oxide. And so if you eat the flesh of the shark, that has the effect of extreme drunkenness. Does it? So if you manage to not eat too much, then you can just get really pissed.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So it's like licking a toad except if you don't like drugs and you like alcohol. Yeah, exactly. Like a hallucinogenic toad. You can lick this shark. I think you'd have to nibble. You can cook it, though. There are ways of preparing it properly. But it's a very disgusting way of cooking it.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You have to bury the meat in the ground. It's one of these, is it? Yeah, for six to 12 weeks, and then you expose it every so often, and you thaw it out, and then you freeze it again. Then you have to hang it up to dry it for several months, and then you finally cut it into bite-sized cubes. Wow, I think in order to eat that, you'd have to be pretty drunk, do you? Yeah. And it says the end product, which is called Hekarl, or Hakarl, is a delicacy, which is the universal way of describing foods that are horrible but rare. They can live. These sharks can live up to 200 years, they think.
Starting point is 00:13:49 No, that can't be right. Yeah, this is what they say. They know this because scientists have said that they can live up to roughly 200 years of age. They know this because they measure how much they grow per year, and they only grow about one between half and one centimeter per year. And so they found them the size of great white sharks, and they've made an assumption that that's how large they can get. It's really weird how little we know about this shark as well.
Starting point is 00:14:12 They were only first photographed in 1995. and the first bit of actual footage of them is from 2003. So they're kind of this new species to us, really. It was actually thought that sharks in general died in their 20s, but then they did radioactive tests on them because the radiation that went from the nuclear tests into the environments meant that you can test how old things are. And they found that sharks now routinely live into the 70s, at least.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Wow. Wow, okay. That's such a strange thought, isn't it, an elderly shark? They have found inside the Greenland shark, haven't they? some pretty impressive animals, given that they move so slowly. They've found reindeer and they found really fast-moving seals inside it. A lion. A cheetah. A polar bear drawing is found inside one of them. Which is weird.
Starting point is 00:14:59 They basically eat everything because they don't have many options of living things to eat because everything can swim away. They're genuinely, they're scavengers. If they see something dead and it looks edible, they will eat it because that's... Their three options are it's either asleep, it's dead, or it's slam into my face. Those are their three eating options that they have. I want to talk about some slow chases. Okay, yeah. So in, I don't know when this was, a few years ago, there was a news report of a guy called Mr. Smith, who stole a JCB.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And then he drove off at 10 to 15 miles an hour. The police were called. They started chasing him, but then realized that he was. was just going and they couldn't stop him. And so the policeman got out and chased him on foot. And he said, I was able to keep pace at a fast jog. Which is quite a good police chase. And I was also reading about this really cool thing called the Marathon de Madoc, which is a French
Starting point is 00:16:01 marathon. And it's known as the world's longest marathon. And it's a full 26 miles. And there are 23 wine stops on the way. And a lot of these wines. You just pause to complain. Sadly not. No, it's where you drink wine.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And stops also offer specialties such as steak and ice cream when you get to stop. And at 23 miles, there's an oyster stop so you can have some oysters. And according to the organizers, this marathon has the most medical support of any marathon in the world. Wow. Of course, yeah. And no one's ever finished it. Come for the steak. Stay for the heart attack.
Starting point is 00:16:42 are the slowest animals the sloth is obviously a good guy and can only move at three meters per minute but I think that's fine because it can do so much other cool stuff so it can spin its head 270 degrees which I didn't know exorcist style quite impressive
Starting point is 00:16:59 yeah James is trying it now you've got about 40 I would say 40 degrees you've managed oh come on no you've got about 90 certainly went over 90 but I didn't know the sloth was so sudden through that algae grows on their coat and they use it as camouflage.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Well, I think they're justifying that after the fact. No, this is camouflage. Mention to do it, guys. Totally meant to do it. They eat it as well, don't they, the algae? There you go, multi-purpose. This leads to a brilliant, interesting thing about the sloth, which is the two-toed variety, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:30 They climb down from the tree to defecate, and that uses up 8% of all their energy, which is a lot of energy just to go to the toilet. It's actually terrifying, though, to be 12 shits away from death. one uses 8% of your energy oh yeah you will be counting in your head that's four
Starting point is 00:17:48 that's like you could see like the energy bar at like the top of street fighter that's how you can break that down you'd have to really conserve it wouldn't you and do they know that I need it I can hold it for another six hours but it's been 11 okay time for fact number three and that is you Chazinski
Starting point is 00:18:06 my fact is that in the 19th century you could be committed to an asylum for novel reading. No. Was it, if you're caught reading a novel? You're, eh? Banged up. Was it specific novels?
Starting point is 00:18:18 I didn't say, actually. It was just so this is, well, I found records from West Virginia Asylum, from between 1864 and 1889, and Pennsylvania State Lunatic Hospital are just two sources that I found, which give lists of reasons for admission. And one of them is novel reading. Other reasons for admission into the West Virginia asylum in that time period include kicked in their head by a horse,
Starting point is 00:18:40 bad whiskey and imaginary female trouble. I don't know what that is. Hysteria, I guess. But imaginary. No, there's a separate one for hysteria is totally separate. And menstrual trouble is separate. Could be an imaginary female. Trouble with the wife.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It was only men. You're not married. Get to the asylum now. Actually, speaking of that, so in the other asylum, the Pennsylvania asylum, novel reading was cited as a cause of lunacy and two patients. One man was admitted for mortified pride,
Starting point is 00:19:08 but the most common cause of admission, so the most common illness, or the most common reason for going mad, for which 226 patients were admitted in one year in 1866 was just trouble. Yeah. I got trouble. It's an incredible list.
Starting point is 00:19:25 It includes things like the war. Yeah. Another reason for admission to an asylum. Yeah. Do you reckon that's PTSD? That would be... Shell shock. Yeah, shell shock.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Two more of my favourites from that list. One of them is tobacco and masturbation. Are those paired together? Yes, they are, yeah, yeah. There's a separate one for masturbation, and then tobacco and masturbation, I believe, is a different cause of together. There's masturbation and syphilis, suppressed masturbation, masturbation for 30 years, and my favourite, deranged masturbation. That's your favourite what?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Hobby. Yeah, this is like a list of our... Our weekend. That's my to-do list. Masturbation also thought to be caused by novel reading in the 19th century. Yep, I was reading an extract from a book called Disease, Insanity and Deformity written in 1860, and it said masturbation often caused by novel reading. And the way you can spot masturbation in somebody, so obviously it's a terrible sin.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I know how to spot it. I don't need a guide. It's hard to identify. Give me a line up. I'll spot the guy. It's number four. You can tell because he's got tobacco. How do you really spot it?
Starting point is 00:20:49 You can spot it by sunken, ghastly eyes and clammy, greasy skin, irritability, eyes averted when they meet ours, basically all the symptoms of being a teenager. Oh, I had a good... Sorry, I have a good thing in the... This was in 1869, and it was an essay by the Reverend J.T. Crane about novel reading about why it's so bad for you. Yeah. And there was loads of different reasons. Mostly it's about encouraging imagination, and obviously that's not to be encouraged. But one of the things says that a novel reader is merged in the hero of the story, handsome in person, brilliant in mind, endowed with every excellence and bearing a name of at least three syllables.
Starting point is 00:21:27 So basically, if you read novels, it makes you think you have a name of three syllables. He soon imagines he is desperately in love with some little damsel in the neighbourhood. he begins to canvas her, she turns him down, and eventually he commits suicide. And that's apparently if you read novels, that's what will happen to you. To every person who read a novel, really? That's what they said.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It is extraordinary, but we don't realize that the novel was a new form in the 18th and early 19th centuries. But it's extraordinary to think of a world in which novels were unknown, and then suddenly people were writing these books. There they were, yeah. And it was a lot of worried, of course, typical to the story.
Starting point is 00:22:07 time about the effect on young women. It was all about women. How they would imagine themselves to be, as you say, James, heroines and things like that. Yeah, yeah. That would lead them to abandon their studies, their wholesome pursuits. Actually, Jane Austen mounts a very lively defense of novel reading in Northanger Abbey. She says they contain everything that's excellent in mankind. Yeah, she didn't have a vested interest.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, she was biased. Oh, you've blown the lid right on this one, Jane. Get it in private eye now. Not just women, because what about Gertes's sorrow? of your vert. I like that it's Gertes
Starting point is 00:22:40 sorrows of Verta. Yeah. I do like that. No, but that was the novel he wrote wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah. Had a suicide? The main character commit suicide? One of the characters was very distinctively dressed. I can't really
Starting point is 00:22:51 remember. It was like he had yellow trousers or and a red jacket or something that he commits suicide
Starting point is 00:22:55 and then everyone supposedly copied him and there was 2,000 suicides in Europe blamed on that novel. God,
Starting point is 00:23:01 wow. So they are dangerous. Stay away from the novels. Okay, we've got to move on. Anyone got anything else? So I want to chuck in? Yeah, just some really good stuff about
Starting point is 00:23:11 how they dealt with the mentally ill in the 19th century. So when you were put into your asylum for novel reading, some things that you could have done to you were, so freezing cold showers and shaved heads were often abinistered because it was thought that you could release the madness through your head. And you'd have an application of blisters where your skin was burnt a lot, so you'd blister up. So a blister would be prescribed.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But the funnest, I think, a whirling chairs. So these were what? they sound like really where you get sat in a chair tied to it and it spins around around around around and it's supposed to send your madness propelling from your body so there's a great account for instance in 1822. Did it work? Yeah, work like a charm, like a dream. In all the accounts I've read, I've read tons, it's always no improvement, no improvement. They never caught on. If there was a transcript of just like the doctor's kitchen where they all met during the day, they would sound way more mad than anyone who was in that asylum. How's your day been? I put him on the whirling chair. I put him on the whirling chair
Starting point is 00:24:05 to, you know, propel his madness out of him. How'd it go? It didn't work. I don't know if we've got a faulty chair. I don't know what's going on. Just the conversations would have been insane in there. You didn't whirl him fast enough. Okay, time for our final fact, and that is Andy. Hello, my fact is that the Japanese Yakuza Crime Syndicate has its own website, which has a theme tune designed to attract new members. Wait, so just very quickly, because I don't know much about them.
Starting point is 00:24:34 This is like a real kind of like menacing mafia-like group. Except that there's a lot of acceptance of them in Japanese society. And it's not illegal to be a member, but it is legal to do obviously a lot of the activities, which is which is extortion or rackets of one kind or another. So they have a very interesting racket, which is basically large-scale bribery, where they buy shares in a company enough to get them to a shareholder's meeting where they can speak in public. And then they just find dirt on the company's executives. get in touch with them and say, if you don't pay us a significant whack of money,
Starting point is 00:25:08 we will come to the shareholders meeting and read out all this terrible stuff about you. And so they do it. And the only effective method against them, apparently, is to have everyone's shareholder meetings on the same day so that... Oh, so they can't be everywhere at once. So now 90% of companies on the Tokyo Stock Exchange have their annual shareholder meetings on the same day now. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But it's very weirdly half accepted. and they see themselves as not being criminals, they see themselves as having a proper code of honor and having, you know. And they sometimes, and they sometimes aren't, I mean, whether it's a cynical act or not, they, for instance, in 2011, were some of the first people to get to the tsunami, the tsunami affected areas with aid, weren't they? And in 1995, the same thing in Kobe, when the earthquake hit.
Starting point is 00:25:56 They think that if the Yakuza hadn't arrived in time with their aid, then there would have been much, much more damage done, because other agencies couldn't get in fast enough. Yeah. So they're controversial because they don't, they're not totally unpopular. They've got this thing. I read that they have a 12-page exam now for all of their members.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Just to make sure because they keep getting in trouble for kind of rookie errors in the way that laws are changing and so on. I think it's because they don't mind doing their big racketeering and stuff, but they don't want to get in with a brawl or just like a, like a parking fine or something like that. They're trying to stop them doing the small, But that's what's really funny because in a normal exam, if you were doing that for normal people who just live quite a sort of legal life, it would be stuff like not parking your car in a certain spot. The stuff that they have, the topics that they cover are dumping industrial waste and vehicle theft, which is normal. I love that dumping industrial waste. They also have a newsletter that they do.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah, yeah. And it's, it's, what, do you want to? No, no, you go for it. So it goes only to the regular members. You have to be. be a proper full-time member to get one of the newsletters, but that's 28,000 people and it's articles, motivational articles from the management about the difficult times we're going through it, and now it's going to pick up soon, haikus, articles on fishing,
Starting point is 00:27:17 entreaties to perform good works. So I think it's designed partly as a little propaganda thing because they know that people outside the ukusa are also going to read it. And, hey, these guys, they sound like pretty fun. We should go angling sometime with them. Did you go on to their website that you talking about. Yeah, I did, and it's very old school. It looks at the building in the early 90s. You can translate it into English, can you? And a lot of it is about anti-marijuana, saying that
Starting point is 00:27:39 marijuana shouldn't be allowed in the country and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's the banished drugs and purify the Nation League is the front for it. Yeah. Isn't there a branch of it that is quite anti-drugs? It's called the Yamu-chai something. Yamaguchi-Gumi? Yeah, the Yamaguchi-Gumi is genuinely quite anti-drugs or parts of it are very anti-drugs, are they are. So they're selective about the crimes they commit. They are, exactly. It's more a kind of power extortion, racketeering thing. I should say where I got this fact from, it's from this magazine called Delayed Gratification Quarterly, which is a very cool magazine, because it's all news from three months ago, which has been filtered and written about really
Starting point is 00:28:20 carefully. There's this incredible photo feature, which you should check out by a guy called Anton Kustas, who was allowed into the syndicate for two years to photograph them. Their tattoos are extraordinary. They often don't get say. Oh, we'll put these up on the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you Google Anton K-U-S-T-E-R-S, then you'll find his photos of them. This magazine just sounds like an excuse for a newspaper that was very slow getting to the press.
Starting point is 00:28:45 It sounds like if Greenland Sharks made a newspaper. I did genuinely try and get hold of delayed gratification quarterly on Monday last week, and they said, come back on Wednesday. It's not in yet. Excellent. Hell's Angels, another, well, the US Department of Justice considers him a crime syndicate. And anyway, I was reading a news story on them the other day where a German student mooned a group of Hells Angels and hurled a puppy at them before escaping on a stolen bulldozer.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So he ran outside, presumably, where every single one of their Harley Davidson's was sitting, thought, I need an escape vehicle. Me to get away from these guys real quick. Bulldozer. He must have thought that the dog would distract them somehow. Well, it must have because he was stopped by the police, not the Hells Angels. Perhaps they thought they didn't really care that much, and they'd rather go on drinking. Do they have a theme tune as well? Oh, speaking the theme tunes, have we got, did you manage to find the Yakuza tune? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So here it is. So the lyrics, with nothing but my courage in this body, I'll trust myself to the life of a Yakuza and follow this path I've decided on. Wow. It's not as jingly as I was hoping it would be. No, it's not really a jingle. I was hoping it was more like an advert trying to get you to a KFC or a McDonald's or something like that. Yeah, I'm not signed. up after hearing that.
Starting point is 00:30:14 You should be like, don't be a loser, join the yakuza or something. James spent the whole podcast planning that. So speaking of theme tunes, did you guys know that Salmon Rushdie wrote a theme tune once? No.
Starting point is 00:30:26 For a TV show we all know and love? Nope. He wrote a theme tune. It was titled, The Best Things Begin with B and it was for the Burnley Building Society. He wrote the lyrics to it. You can dream a little,
Starting point is 00:30:38 you can dream a lot, but the best dreams of all are the ones you've got building in the Burnley. That is fantastic. And I can't find any evidence of online. I reckon he goes through the internet every day and make sure he deletes every reference to it. That's great, though.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I didn't even know Burnley had a building society. Didn't do its job. Apparently he was very bad in advertising. The one thing I know about Burnley is they drink more Benedictine than anywhere else in the world. Do they? Well, the best things in life do begin with B. Oh, God, it's working. They drink it in Benian Hot, Hot, which is Benedictine in hot water,
Starting point is 00:31:10 and it's a specific club especially in a certain area of Burnley and they all drink Benedictine. Oh, really? And then invest their money very sensibly. Yes. That's what they're into. There was something else. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 He came up with the slogan for fresh cream cakes, naughty but nice. Yes, he did. And he also invented the word irresister bubble for aerotro chocolate bars. Pretty cool. So that obviously prefigured a lot of his magical realism later on. Yeah. Can I tell you something about theme tunes? Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Okay, I have a couple of things about theme tunes, which I really like. So you know the theme tune to Desert Island Discs? Yes. Yeah, da-da-da-da-da. Very nice. It was inspired by the view over Bognar Regis. Was it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 The composer wrote it looking across the lagoon towards Bognar. It's called the Blue Lagoon or something, isn't it? Yeah, it is, Sleepy Lagoon. It kind of makes you want to go there. Good old Bognar Regis. It gets really bad rap, isn't it? It does, yeah. It shouldn't, as you say.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It's like, just a quick interjection. Waterloo Sunset was originally called Liverpool Sunset, wasn't it? Because it was about the beauty of the sunset over Liverpool. Then it was changed because I think the kinks felt that Waterloo might resonate with more people. Burnley Sunset would have been better, wouldn't it? Burnley Sunset. The best things in life begin with B. Someone Rushdie's working on his sequel now.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Burnley Building Society Sunset. Did you know that the Star Wars theme tune has lyrics? What? No. Yeah. What are the lyrics? So, okay, basically there was a holiday special that was made that George Lucas has since said if he had enough time and a hammer, he would go around smashing every pirated copy out there that still exists. And it was basically the story of Chubaka going home for Chubaka Wookie Day with his family. During it had all these very surreal moments and all the actors from Star Wars were in it, including Princess Leia, who then sings the Star Wars theme tune with lyrics. Yeah, and the lyrics are roughly, we celebrate a day of peace, a day of harmony, a day of joy, we can all share together joy.
Starting point is 00:33:14 So it's a really boring lyrics, but it's a really nice thing to know that lyrics are out there for that song. There was an, I don't know if it's right to call this a theme tune, but early American presidential candidates, they would have songs associated with them. Oh yeah. And they kind of are like theme tunes. So John Quincy Adams was the president in 1828, and he was the incumbent, and he was the incumbent, and he was. was facing Andrew Jackson. So John Quincy Adams, he didn't write it, but a song penned on his behalf was called Little No Ye Who's Coming.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And it warns of fire and slavery and pestilence if John Quincy Adams loses the election. The lyrics are fires are coming, swords are coming, pistols, guns and knives are coming. If John Quincy not be coming. That's quite good. And then he lost the election by a landslide. And did, was America overtaken for the next hundred years by fire and brimstone? It was not. You were just, you were talking about presidential theme tunes.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I really like the fact that was it Bill Clinton's one of the Democratic conventions when Bill Clinton was incumbent. It was originally going to be the theme tune for the convention was going to be Mambo number five. Until some smart person pointed out that it contains the lyric, a little bit of moniker in my life. So they changed that. I think Bill Clinton used to go up to ladies and go, the best things in life. begin with a B. That's very funny. Have we got any more on this?
Starting point is 00:34:43 So there was a gang of counterfeiters that tried to con the Bank of England a few years ago out of 28 billion pounds. And they did that by claiming to have a collection of 1,000 pound and 5,000 pound banknotes. According to the news article, the audacious plot was foiled by the fact that the 1,000 pound banknotes
Starting point is 00:35:00 had not been legal tender for more than 60 years and the 500,000 pound version never existed. Oh, my Roman coin scam is going to go ready to be. Okay, that's it. That's all of our facts. Thank you so much, everyone from listening. If you want to get in contact with any of us about the stuff we've been talking about, you can head to at QI podcast on Twitter as a main stop.
Starting point is 00:35:25 But if you want to get to us individually, I can be gone on at Shriverland, James. At Egg-shaped. Andy. At Andrew Hunter M. And Anna. You can email me on podcast at QI.com. Why are you chuckling? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It always, when you say it, the fact that you're not on Twitter and then you say an email, it sounds as far away as like, say, the fax number. A telegram. Yeah, yeah. You can, yeah. Okay, that's it. You can also head to our website. No Such Thing as a Fish.com where we've got all the previous episodes of the series that we've made so far.
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