Noble Blood - Husbands of the Scottish Queen

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Lord Darnley, the husband of Mary Queen of Scots, was murdered under mysterious circumstances. How Mary reacted, and what happened next, would lead to her undoing. Support Noble Blood: — Bo...nus episodes, stickers, and scripts on Patreon— Order Dana's book, 'Anatomy: A Love Story' and its sequel 'Immortality: A Love Story'  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 in this podcast, I think you'll really like that book. Now let's get to the story. Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of IHeart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised. In early February 1567, Henry Stewart, Lord Darnley, the King of Scotland, arrived at a spacious two-story house in Kirkafield, an abbey and church College near Edinburgh. It had been a tough year for Lord Darnley so far. He had been living in Glasgow away from his wife, Mary Queen of Scots. But after Darnley fell dangerously ill, Mary arranged to bring him to be with her in Edinburgh to convalesce, perhaps as a gesture of reconciliation after their relationship had gone downhill in recent months. Curcofield
Starting point is 00:04:00 seemed like the perfect spot. The air was said to be the healthiest in the whole town. But still, things didn't seem very optimistic. According to one of Darnley's advisors, a raven followed their caravan from Glasgow to Edinburgh and perched on the roof of the house, an ominous sign. It seemed the raven knew something mere mortals didn't. February 9th was supposed to be the last day of Lord Darnley's convalescence. This was the last Sunday before Lent, and after a day of revelry attending a wedding and a dinner with a bishop, Mary and her royal entourage spent the evening with Lord Darnley in his chamber, playing dice, listening to someone play the lute, and chatting.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Mary considered sleeping over with Lord Darnley. Lord Darnley at Kirkafield, but the Earl of Bothwell, the sheriff of Edinburgh and a member of her entourage, reminded Mary that she had promised to stop by an aristocrat's wedding mask before the end of the night. Besides, she had to be up early the next morning to depart from Holyrood on a diplomatic excursion. Wouldn't it be easier just to sleep in her castle instead? Mary agreed and departed from Kirkafield, promising to see her husband in the morning. At 2 a.m. by the time the queen was asleep in her own bed at Holyrood, an explosion startled the whole town awake, including the queen. One townsperson described it as a clap of thunder, while the queen noted that it sounded like 20 or 30 cannons.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Fairly soon after the queen was informed what had. had happened. Somebody had carried two trunks of gunpowder to Lord Darnley's house at Kirkfield earlier that day and came back that night to light it, causing a huge blast and demolishing the house. Her husband, Lord Darnley, had been killed. But strangely, it wasn't the explosion that killed him. His body was found in the back garden with signs of of strangulation. He had made it out of the exploded house and been killed anyway. This was a murder, and the suspicious details would unravel the Scottish aristocracy and change the course of Mary Queen of Scots' life forever. I'm Dana Schwartz, and this is Noble Blood.
Starting point is 00:06:53 As news of Lord Darnley's murder spread internationally, there was increasing pressure on Mary to find and convict the culprit. There was no shortage of suspects. Lord Darnley was, to put it mildly, a controversial figure in Scotland and beyond. Because both Mary and Lord Darnley were descendants of Henry the 7th in England, their marriage could give them a more legitimate claim on the English throne than Queen Elizabeth herself, making Darnley a target of anyone in the Elizabethan court. But even closer to home, Mary herself and her entourage had even deeper enmity for Lord Darnley. Despite the fact that Mary had originally chosen Darnley and married for what seemed to be love, the bloom was off the rose fairly quickly.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Darnley had a reputation as a power-hungry, paranoid drunkard. He had violently strenuous, dabbed Mary's secretary in front of her while she was pregnant out of an unfounded fear that he and Mary were having an affair, traumatizing her and alienating him from the rest of Mary's court. Like I said, Darnley was a guy with plenty of enemies. Within days, a primary suspect for Darnley's murder emerged, Lord Bothwell. Bothwell was a key member of Mary's court, and he wielded political and military power. He was the sheriff of Edinburgh, Lord High Admiral of Scotland,
Starting point is 00:08:37 and Lieutenant of the border between England and Scotland. He had access to enough gunpowder to set off the explosion, and some of his lackeys had been spotted near Kirkafield around the time of the murder. He also had a motive. Because Lord Darnley had murdered Mary's secretary, who was one of Bothwell's allies, he could have been seeking revenge.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Bothwell had done this kind of thing before. In 1562, a political enemy, the Earl of Aaron, spread a rumor about Bothwell that he planned to abduct Mary Queen of Scots and marry her to advance his own political career. These rumors were baseless. They actually came to the Earl of Aaron in a dream.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But Bothwell escalated the situation, threatening to retaliate. Mary was so afraid of what Bothwell might do to the Earl of Aaron that she sent Bothwell into exile. But even in exile, Bothwell had his lackeys attempt to abduct the Earl of Aaron's mistress as payback. Just days after Darnley's murder, in March 1567, anonymous placards appeared in Edinburgh, openly accusing Bothwell. The English ambassador, Sir William Drury, reported to London that, quote, the Earl Bothwell is most suspected. Even Mary might have been wary around Bothwell by this point.
Starting point is 00:10:10 One of Mary's courtiers alleged that one of Bothwell's allies approached Mary a few months before the murder, asking for written permission to dispatch her husband, allegedly Mary declined and said she wanted to hear nothing more of the matter. Still, Mary seemed conflicted about bringing Bothwell to court. Mary and Bothwell met in 1560 and had been growing steadily closer ever since. Even though Bothwell had converted to Protestantism while Mary was a staunch Catholic, Bothwell had been steadfast and loyal. Ambassadors reported that Bothwell
Starting point is 00:10:51 commanded her confidence, quote, more than any other man. Given the chaos in Mary's court, she felt that she couldn't trust anyone, even her own husband, who was moved to kill her beloved secretary based on rumor alone. After Darnley's murder, she needed support more than ever. Mired in grief, Mary was bedridden and depressed. Sir William Drury, the ambassador, reported to the Secretary of State of England that she was, quote, for the most part, either melancholy or sickly. Perhaps this breakdown was in part fueled by guilt. As historian Antonia Frazier put it, quote, she had wished darnly dead and now he was. Mary's counsel encouraged her to return to matters of state to distract herself, but that backfired. She tried to meet the English ambassador
Starting point is 00:11:50 her in her sickbed, but she was so ill that she may have had one of her ladies impersonating her. When the queen moved from Hollywood House to Seton a week after Darnley's murder, she left Bothwell to take care of her baby's son. Mary's hesitation to convict Bothwell made her a suspect as well. It was widely known that the Mary Darnley marriage was fraught, making her closeness with Bothwell seem increasingly suspect. Placards began appearing in Edinburgh now accusing both Mary and Both Bothwell of Darnley's death. On one of the placards, Bothwell was depicted as a hair, while Mary was depicted as a mermaid, a symbol for a prostitute.
Starting point is 00:12:43 worse after Bothwell visited Mary in Seton at the end of March, rumors started spreading that Bothwell intended to marry the queen. Some suspected that they may have been having an affair and conspired together to have Mary's husband killed. After all, she was the one who insisted that Darnley meet her in Edinburgh, and she set him up to convales in Kirkafield. Maybe it was all part of the murder point. plan. There's no real evidence that implicates Mary in her husband's murder. If anything,
Starting point is 00:13:21 it seems she had tried to prevent conspiracies against her husband throughout their marriage. It was not Mary, but her courtiers, aligned with Bothwell, who insisted that Darnley stay at Kirkofield. Mary had actually raised some concerns that Kirkofield might be unsafe. And historically, Mary didn't really give Bothwell any special treatment. She had been willing to arrest Bothwell and send him to exile without a trial when he had threatened the Earl of Aaron a few years earlier. Anyway, at the beginning of April, with public pressure mounting, Bothwell was formally accused of Darnley's murder
Starting point is 00:14:05 with a trial planned for April 12th. In a case like this, it was customary for the victim's family, to initiate the proceedings, manage the prosecution, and gather evidence. So, Mary left the trial to Darnley's father, the Earl of Lennox. A few days before the trial, Lennox attempted to gather 3,000 armed retainers, a typical show of force for nobles taking the stand. But his army was outnumbered by Bothwell's, which might have impacted the trial. Bothwell's stronger army could, for instance, implicitly or explicitly threaten witnesses away from testifying against him.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Lennox also had a number of other disadvantages. He had only recently moved back to Scotland after 20 years, so he didn't have many allies in the region. And his late son was so unpopular that it was hard to galvanize support. Lennox begged Mary to postpone the trial, but she refused. Queens did not participate in matters of criminal justice, so she was ill-equipped to go hunting for legal loopholes that could justify the delay. Besides, just a couple of months ago, Lennox had been pressuring her to expedite the trial. The trial went ahead as planned.
Starting point is 00:15:34 In face of the opposition and perhaps fearing for his own life, Lennox didn't show up, fleeing the country entirely. Lennox's absence meant there was no one willing to testify against Bothwell or introduce any evidence that could convict him. It was essentially a sham trial in a courtroom filled with Bothwell's allies. After seven hours of deliberating, Bothwell was acquitted, an obvious choice given that there was no permissible evidence against him. Bothwell installed troops throughout Edinburgh that threatened anyone who undermined the verdict with hand-to-hand combat. With that, Bothwell technically was off the hook. He could have returned to his plum post as Mary's closest advisor without much fanfare,
Starting point is 00:16:28 but he decided to use this chaotic moment to pursue even greater political power. On April 19, 1567, just a week after the trial, he convened a meeting with various bishops, earls, and lords of Parliament, Edinburgh's upper crust, to Ainsley Tavern to discuss his next moves. There, Bothwell revealed his plan. He wanted to marry, marry, and become the king, and he asked everyone present to sign a document formally supporting the marriage. It's almost hard to overstate just how crazy this was. It cast the Darnley murder in an entirely new light.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Perhaps Bothwell assassinated Darnley not only for revenge, but to take his place. This union, with Mary, would totally undermine Mary's reputation. If she married Bothwell, Mary would be replacing her late husband with the man who, despite his acquittal, remained the only plausible architect of his murder. Still, as many as 24 of the men, competing accounts give different numbers, in Ainsley Tavern that night signed the document in favor of the marriage.
Starting point is 00:17:52 These men were willing to play along with Bothwell's plan, but we don't know how they might have really felt. Later, many of them revealed that they only agreed to the document because they thought a Bothwell-Mary union would confer them political advantages. The signers were a group of Protestant nobles, so ensuring Mary had a Protestant husband would undermine the Catholic stronghold over Scotland that Mary represented. Some might have represented Bothwell out of loyalty, others out of fear, since he had a reputation for being a powerful loose cannon who sought vengeance on those who confronted him, and probably wasn't afraid of violence. Others still thought they could sign onto the document and change Bothwell's mind later. After all, for the record, Bothwell was already married. He would have to get a divorce,
Starting point is 00:18:54 not an easy feat in 16th century Scotland, before he could be. pursue Mary. Mary seemed oblivious to Bothwell's plans. During the Ainsley Tavern meeting, Mary was in Setton for a short rest. So when Bothwell set off from Edinburgh the next day, met up with Mary and formally proposed marriage, she was caught off guard. It had only been a couple of months since her husband was murdered, and, to repeat, Bothwell already had a wife. but here he was, not only demanding her hand in marriage, but carrying a document that suggested that pretty much all of the nobleman in Edinburgh also supported that union.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Still, Mary turned him down. A letter she wrote to a bishop the day after confirms that impression. It professed her loyalty to Pope Pius V and announced her plan to die a devout Catholic, which would conflict with having a Protestant wedding with a closest advisor. But Bothwell would not be deterred so easily. After all, he had already proven himself willing to go to extreme lengths to get what he wanted. Nothing would stop him on his quest for power. Not even the queen.
Starting point is 00:20:21 On April 24th, Mary was finally on the road back to Edinburgh, returning from her long trip. Perhaps she was nervous to find out what was waiting for her there. The city had been in chaos since Darnley's murder. Moreover, she had just turned down Bothwell's marriage proposal, and he was one of the most powerful men in Scotland. It's a risky position going against one of your closest allies. Mary wouldn't even make it halfway to Edinburgh
Starting point is 00:20:54 before Bothwell suddenly appeared on the road with 800 men. He warned Mary that it was too dangerous to return to the city and that she should instead accompany him to his castle in Dunbar to hide away. We don't know what was going through Mary's mind at the time. She was still feeling physically ill, the day before she had been delayed on her journey because she was too weak to continue. She was probably tired, overwhelmed,
Starting point is 00:21:24 confused and conflicted. Maybe she didn't believe Bothwell and wanted to continue on to Edinburgh, but she was outnumbered by Bothwell's army and was worried he might retaliate or force her if she refused. Or maybe she believed Bothwell, or at least assumed that Bothwell was less dangerous than whatever conspiracy might be afoot in Edinburgh. Mary was already paranoid that she might be assassinated just like her ex-husband. In any case, she said that she would not like to be the cause of any more bloodshed and agreed to go with Bothwell to Dunbar. Historians debate whether or not this constitutes a kidnapping. To some, like Frazier, Mary clearly consented.
Starting point is 00:22:13 She describes Mary as docile and that the proceedings were so calm and pleasant. that it is difficult to describe what happened as an abduction, especially since she didn't even attempt to refuse Bothwell or seek rescue from the country people as she passed. She also argues that Mary must have known ahead of time that Bothwell was on his way. Letters from earlier in the week between the Earl of Lennox and another noble discussed the plan,
Starting point is 00:22:43 suggesting that it was fairly common knowledge in Mary's court. Other historians, like the French historian Catherine or Maville, take a more extreme view, that Bothwell was actually doing Mary a favor by intervening, that the two were actually secretly in love, and Bothwell pretended to kidnap Mary so that they could marry without ruining her reputation, or at least mitigating the damage. These theories have some flaws. First is that there's no concrete proof that Mary had been having an affair with Bothwell.
Starting point is 00:23:22 While some interpret her closeness with Bothwell as romantic, Bothwell's overtures only became explicit after the death of Mary's husband, and Mary had shut them down. There's also no proof that Mary had heard of Bothwell's plan to take her before it occurred other than Frasier's sense that it seems likely. Her courtiers may just as well have heard of the plan and decided not to tell Mary, not wanting to interfere getting away. These theories are also more focused on the explicit consent itself
Starting point is 00:23:59 than the larger conditions that influenced it. Mary was, I remind you, surrounded by 800 armed men and the guy who probably killed her husband. Even if she did refuse and Bothwell let her go back to Edinburgh, her political allies there signed a document professing their loyalty to Bothwell. So Mary may have faced consequences from them instead. Bothwell had gathered enough literal and metaphorical ammunition against Mary that her choice to go with him to Dunbar may not have really felt like a choice at all.
Starting point is 00:24:38 After she was taken, Mary sent a member of her entourage ahead to Edinburgh to alert the that she had been kidnapped. The provost rang the literal alarm bell, and the citizen called on the government to engineer a rescue. But by then it was too late. Mary arrived at Dunbar at midnight with an army surrounding her. That night, Bothwell raped her. There are a number of accounts that confirm this. One noble who was at Dunbar while it happened wrote that, regardless of whether or not she had wanted to marry Bothwell, she had been, quote, ravished against her will. Mary herself said in a cryptic note that Bothwell's actions were, quote, rough, and that given the circumstances, she had no choice but, quote, to make the best of it.
Starting point is 00:25:35 The story got back to Edinburgh days later. By then, the mood had shifted. While some contemporaries maintained that she had had been kidnapped. Most thought that she had gone willingly and harbored secret romantic feelings for Bothwell. That said, no one cast any doubt that Bothwell had assaulted her. Mary was known for being straight-laced and pious, and Bothwell for being letcherous and scheming. Still, no one thought that a rape would exempt Mary from her impending marriage to Bothwell. If anything, it forced her hand because the only way to lessen the sin of sleeping with a man out of wedlock would be to marry him. According to them, Bothwell did a heinous act to break down Mary's sexual boundaries, but she would have to suffer for it.
Starting point is 00:26:28 As historian Ruth Warnick put it, quote, Mary reacted like many other early modern victims who believed their ravishment polluted them, unwilling to dishonor her family by revealing the rape and elicist, charges that she was immensely immodest or that she deserved to be attacked because she had not lived virtuously enough. Mary stayed at Dunbar for three weeks, where she seemed to give up and accept her fate. By the time she received an offer of rescue at the end of April, she rejected it, resigned. Now that Bothwell had secured his new marriage, he set out to dissolve his old one. That turned out to be way easier than anyone could have anticipated. His wife was all too happy to get rid of him.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Bothwell set up two divorce trials in both Protestant and Catholic ecclesiastical courts, and within days the courts agreed to end his marriage on the grounds that he cheated on his wife, not with Mary, incidentally, but with his wife's sewing maid. His servants also found court officials and threatened to, cut off their noses and ears if the verdict wasn't reached quickly enough. The threats worked by May 7th, Bothwell was officially single. That week, Bothwell also finally brought Mary back to Edinburgh. One onlooker reported that he was holding the queen by the bridle of her horse, as if she were a captive.
Starting point is 00:28:07 On May 12th, Mary declared formally that, although she had been abducted, she would agree, to marry Bothwell. Three days later, Bothwell and Mary were wed in a small Protestant ceremony at the Great Hall of Holyrood. After the wedding, the Earl of Bothwell technically had a new title, the Duke of Orkney, but I'll keep referring to him as Bothwell for clarity's sake. The atmosphere was hardly festive. The wedding banquet was a rush job. Some protesters placed on the palace gates the words wantons Mary in the month of May. Mary seemed miserable. She had already been depressed before Bothwell's abduction, and now she was doing even worse. One of her advisors wrote a letter describing a conversation she had had with the queen on her wedding day. Mary
Starting point is 00:29:03 apologized for seeming too formal with her new husband. It was because she felt no joy about the wedding and longed for suicide. Mary had no idea that behind the scenes, the political elite of Edinburgh were trying to overturn the marriage. Even though many of them had signed the letter at Ainsley Tavern, they had begun to turn against Bothwell. A few months before, they had assumed that Bothwell would repay them for their support by including them in his plans. Besides, Bothwell probably seemed like a more reasonable choice of a husband for Mary than the paranoid murderous Lord Darnley. But by May 1567, Bothwell seemed much more dangerous than Darnley. He had murdered someone, kidnapped and raped the queen, and manipulated the government toward his own
Starting point is 00:29:59 ends. Bothwell had shut out his former allies, going against their wishes and concentrating his own power. Even the more specious claims against Bothwell that these nobles had initially, dismissed seemed increasingly reasonable. Earlier in this episode, we mentioned that in 1562, five years before any of this happened, Lord Aaron spread a rumor that Bothwell would kidnap the queen and marry her to advance his own political career. Lord Aaron was ruled crazy, lest we forget the information had come to him in a dream. But Lord Aaron turned out to be right. his dream became a reality. Maybe Lord Aaron had even given Bothwell the idea. At the beginning of May, while Mary was still in captivity at Dunbar, the nobles of Edinburgh met up to figure out what to do next.
Starting point is 00:30:57 These Confederates planned to gather an army in secret. If Mary couldn't escape the marriage herself, they would do it for her with whatever force necessary. By June, the anti-Barrant, Bothwell nobility, known as the Confederates, had gotten organized. The Confederate lords had occupied the city of Edinburgh and taken over Parliament, installing troops throughout the city. On June 11th, they issued a proclamation that they would rescue the Queen, arrest Bothwell, and avenge Darnley's murder once and for all. Bothwell had already caught wind of the plan. Fearing a military coup, Bothwell took Mary to Borthwick Castle, about 12 miles south of Edinburgh, to avoid a surprise attack. He had an army of his own and was ready to fight back.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But when Bothwell and Mary heard that 1,200 Confederate troops were on their way to Borthwick Castle, they fled once again. Bothwell dressed Mary in men's clothing to avoid suspicion, and they headed back to Dunbar. On June 15th, the two armies finally met up for a showdown at Carbury Hill, about seven miles from Edinburgh. One of the Confederate promised Mary that if she abandoned Bothwell, he would restore her to power. Mary refused. It may seem weird for her to have declared loyalty to Bothwell, given that he abused her, raped her, and forced her to marry him. But Mary had a scene. secret. She was pregnant. She feared that the child was Bothwell's and didn't want to sully her
Starting point is 00:32:48 reputation further by giving birth to an illegitimate child. No matter how they had gotten there, she and Bothwell were married. The two armies were at a standoff, neither of them particularly wanting to fight. Instead, they argued about what to do next. After a few hours, Bothwell's soldiers began wandering off, bored. Bothwell finally called for single combat to settle the dispute, but then backed down immediately, claiming that he was too high status to fight the guy who had volunteered. A higher-status Confederate, Lord Linde, agreed to fight Bothwell,
Starting point is 00:33:30 but Bothwell backed down yet again. Mary finally took decisive action. She surrendered to the Confederates on a promise of, good treatment, and if they let Bothwell go free. Again, her choice is somewhat puzzling. Why would she want to protect Bothwell after everything he did to her? Some historians interpret this as an expression of love or affection for Bothwell, while others think she did so out of political strategy, to separate herself from Bothwell and his influence to argue for her own innocence. Historians also dispute the order of events.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Ritha Vornik suggests that Bothwell decided to flee before Mary agreed to surrender. In any case, the Confederates accepted her conditions, and Bothwell fled first to the south of Scotland, then to Denmark. Mary would never see him again. Mary was led back to Edinburgh by her horse's bridle yet again. this time a captive of the state. As she entered the city, soldiers yelled,
Starting point is 00:34:45 Burn the whore. Banners flew across town, depicting Darnley's corpse lying under a tree, and their son kneeling, praying to the Lord for revenge. In her tattered clothes, Mary was imprisoned, first in Edinburgh and then at a castle in Lock Levin. Weeks passed before anyone figured
Starting point is 00:35:08 out what to do with Mary. She spent her days wandering around the castle there with barely anything to do. In captivity, her allies met with her and begged her to divorce Bothwell and repudiate him to gain her release. Mary still refused, finally admitting that she was seven weeks pregnant. She emphasized that she was only seven weeks pregnant, despite not being absolutely sure of the date, to claim that conception occurred after the wedding, thereby implicitly denying the premarito. A week later, Mary had a miscarriage, leaving her bedridden for the rest of the month of July.
Starting point is 00:35:54 On July 24th, Mary signed a statement, claiming that her illness made it impossible for her to reign. She abdicated the throne to her one-year-old son, with Lord Darnley, and appointed her half-brother, the Earl of Moray, as the King Regent. When Mary's health began to improve in August, Moray arrived in Lockleven to scold her about her mistakes in a two-day lecture before formally assuming the regency. Mary spent nearly a year in captivity, writing secret messages in code and planning an escape.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Finally, on May 2nd, she boarded a stolen boat in its skies and rode horses to Hamilton House a few miles from Glasgow. Two days later, she told Moray that she disavowed giving up the crown. Six thousand men joined her to protect her and reinstall her as the queen, angry with Moray for treating her so poorly in prison and holding her accountable for her husband's death rather than Bothwell. As Mary and her army headed toward Dunbarton Castle, Moray sent a force of troops to go after her. Even though Moray had a smaller army of only 4,000 soldiers, he managed to defeat Mary. She was not expecting Moray to actually engage them in battle, so her troops were too chaotic and disorganized to prevail. Mary also hadn't expected Moray to focus on apprehending her.
Starting point is 00:37:33 When she tried to escape in the middle of the battle, Moray redirected his soldiers from fighting to seize her instead. After narrowly escaping after the humiliating defeat, Mary decided to serve out the rest of her imprisonment in England. She felt like she had no choice. While France, a Catholic country, would have been friendlier to Mary, she couldn't make it all the way there on the dingy fishing boat provided to her. She figured that in England, her cousin, Queen Elizabeth I, would keep her safe and maybe
Starting point is 00:38:08 even help her win back the Scottish throne. Elizabeth had to thread a delicate political needle. She didn't want to openly support Mary since Mary was accused of murder. But she didn't want to execute her or send her back to Scotland and create a a Catholic martyr. So she called for a formal inquiry into the accusations against Mary, hoping to produce a verdict that could guide her towards a decision. Mary agreed to go along with the inquiry if she maintained her royal rank during the trial, and if the inquiry was not about her alleged murder of Darnley or the marriage with Bothwell, but instead focused on whether or not
Starting point is 00:38:54 she would be able to rule over Scotland. On October 4, 1568, the first day of the hearing, the inquiry did not follow either of those conditions. One reason is that Moray took over the prosecution, and he aimed to prove without a doubt that Mary was behind Lord Darnley's murder so that she could never rule again. Moray, a Protestant who happily accepted Elizabeth's authority,
Starting point is 00:39:22 had many allies in the English court. Mary felt like the English officials in charge of the trial were already on Moray's side. After a few days of taking oaths and reading commissions, Mary's team still had some hope that the trial would reach an agreement that could satisfy both sides. But Moray went straight for the jugular. He accused Mary of having an affair with Bothwell
Starting point is 00:39:51 before her husband's death, hoping to exploit the fact that, as Varnik put it, quote, many contemporaries viewed fornication not only as more criminal than murder, but also as inevitably leading to murder. Moray introduced his primary evidence for that claim, a series of documents in a foot-long silver casket,
Starting point is 00:40:16 including six love letters written by Mary to Bopper, Two contracts of marriage, one signed before Bothwell's murder trial, a request from Mary to the nobleman to sign the Ainsley Tavern band, and a French love ballad. These, quote, casket letters, named after the casket they were stored in, seemed to damn Mary's case, proving that she was not a victim of Bothwell at all, but rather that she had been in love with Bothwell for years, and conspired with him to murder Lord Darnley. Most historians think these letters were forged. Some were entirely invented, while others were probably rewrites of actual letters that Mary had written to other people.
Starting point is 00:41:08 The casket letters were said to have been discovered at Edinburgh Castle in June of 1567 after Mary had been captured. But why would Bothwell keep his letters from, Mary there when he didn't live there. He barely spent any time in Edinburgh aside from his wedding to marry. Mary also tended to use ciphers and codes to write about sensitive material, and the letters contained several inaccuracies. In 1569, Mary told Elizabeth, quote, that even if she had imagined the foolish remarks in the casket letters, she never would have put them in writing.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It seems that Elizabeth did not take these letters particularly seriously, because the inquiry continued on for months. Mary's side offered various concessions to the crown, like vowing to her son in England in exchange for her reinstatement, while Moray sought to destroy Mary's reputation entirely. Mary's side thought Elizabeth had been unfair. She had agreed to meet with Moray outside of the inquiry and allowed him to appear at the hearings, while Mary could not participate in her own investigation or testify for herself. Mary didn't even know what she was being accused of. In any case, Elizabeth ended the inquiry in January 1569, refusing to issue a decision, arguing that there was not enough proof to convict Mary nor to exonerate her.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Our other episode about Mary Queen of Scots goes into more depth about what happened during the rest of Mary's imprisonment and how Elizabeth eventually made the decision to execute her in 1587. But this inquiry in 1569, even though it ended inconclusively, cemented a narrative of the relationship between Bothwell and Mary in the historical record. Even though the courts didn't take the casket letters seriously, they were published in 1571 in a book accusing Mary of pursuing Bothwell and orchestrating Darnley's murder. Another account denied this reading and proclaimed Mary's innocence, dismissing the letters as forgeries. These two competing versions of the story of Bothwell and Mary's relationship persist even, even though. after four centuries. By now, most historians, with a few exceptions, believe that while Mary may have had a hostile relationship with Darnley, she did not actively participate in his death.
Starting point is 00:44:02 She chose to marry and defend Bothwell not out of love, but out of desperation. She had suffered the death of her husband, a debilitating illness, a kidnapping, and a rape. In a society that punished adultery, even over murder and blamed women for their own assaults, Mary was stuck between a rock and a hard place, a place where even a queen had no power. That's the tragic story of Mary Queen of Scots and Bothwell, but stick around to hear about Mary's favorite prison past time. Needle Point. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents
Starting point is 00:44:52 Soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. Wider. This is a podcast we're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games
Starting point is 00:45:08 in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? They had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar something here? Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on. Can you put it? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Readers, Katie's finalists, publicists. We have an incredible new episode this week for you guys. We have our girl Hillary Duff in here, and we can't wait for you to hear this episode. They put on Lizzie McGuire 2 a.m. Video on Demand. This guy's bo-u-a-m-m-a-m-m-moyer. Lizzie McGuire.
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Starting point is 00:46:19 than these boys are. I'm not like, but listen to Los Coleristas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, gorgeous, it's Lala Kent. Host of Untraditionally Lala. My days of filling up cups at Sir
Starting point is 00:46:37 may be over, but I'm still loving life in the valley. Live on the other side of the hill is giving grown-up vibes, but over here on my podcast, Untraditionally Lala, I'm still that Lala, love or love to hate. I've been full on over sharing with fans, family, and former frenemies like Tom Schwartz.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I had a little bone to pick with Schwartzie when he came on the pod. You don't feel bad that you told me I was a bootleg housewife? I almost flipped a pizza in your lap. Oh my God, I literally forgot about that until just now. Sorry, I don't want to blame alcohol. That I gotta blame that one on the alcohol.
Starting point is 00:47:10 This is about laughing and learning when life just keeps on life in. Because I make mistakes so that you guys don't have to. We're growing, we're thriving, And yes, sometimes we're barely surviving, but we do it all with love. It's unruly, it's unruly, it's unawraid, it's Untraditionally Lala. Listen to Untraditionally Lala on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents Soccer moms.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider.
Starting point is 00:47:47 This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Just a second. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on. Could you boot? I would buy it.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug app. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Readers, Katie's finalists, publicists. We have an incredible new episode this week for you guys. We have our girl Hillary Duff in here and we can't wait for you to hear this episode. They put on Lizzie McGuire 2 a.m. video on man this guy's two a. 2 a.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Whatever time it is. Lizzie McGuire. And I'm like Wild, a wild batch you were with. It was like a first like closet moment for me where I was like.
Starting point is 00:48:55 You're like I don't feel like she's hot like the rest of that. No, no, no. I was like she's beautiful. But I'm appreciating her in a different way than these boys are. I'm not like, but listen to Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:49:06 on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcast or whatever you get your podcast. Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent. Host of Untraditionally Lala. My days of filling up cups at sir, may be over, but I'm still loving life in the valley.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Life on the other side of the hill is giving grown-up vibes, but over here on my podcast, Untraditionally Lala, I'm still that Lala you either love or love to hate. I've been full on over-sharing with fans, family, and former frenemies like Tom Schwartz. I had a little bone to pick with Schwarzy when he came on the pod. You don't feel bad that you told me I was a bootleg housewife? I almost flipped a pizza in your lap.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Oh my God, I literally forgot about that until just now. sorry, I don't want to blame alcohol. I got to blame that one on the alcohol. This is about laughing and learning when life just keeps on life in. Because I make mistakes so that you guys don't have to. We're growing, we're thriving, and yes, sometimes we're barely surviving, but we do it all with love. It's unruly, it's unafraid, it's untraditionally la-la. Listen to Untraditionally Lala on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:15 In her years in prison, Mary had a lot of time. on her hands. Under house arrest at George Talbot's English estate from 1568 to 1585, Mary befriended his second wife, Bess of Hardwick, who was a great embroiderer. Mary already had an interest in sewing and embroidery. When Mary was imprisoned in Scotland in 1567, her allies petitioned the Earl of Moray to appoint her an embroiderer to draw designs for her sewing. Morae refused. It was common for wealthy women to spend time together embroidering. Each person would work on a panel that then could be sewn together like a quilt. The panels Mary and Bess worked on together mostly depicted animals, dogs, bees, elephants, tigers, even dragons. My favorite features
Starting point is 00:51:11 a cat playing with a mouse called a cat. Some art historians have tried to decode these panels for hidden meaning. The Victoria and Albert Museum interprets one panel, quote, depicting a grapevine and a hand holding a pruning knife as a reference to, quote, Mary's claim on the throne, suggesting the need to cut away the fruitless branch of the tutor tree represented by the childless and, quote, illegitimate Elizabeth. The point is driven home by the Latin motto, Virisket Vulnir Virtus.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Virtue flourishes by wounding. End quote. It's not entirely clear whether this was Mary's intention, but the panel was introduced in a treason trial as evidence
Starting point is 00:52:05 that Mary had in fact been conspiring against Elizabeth. Noble Blood is a production of I-Heart Radio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Manky. Noble Blood is hosted by me, Dana Schwartz, with additional writing and research by Hannah Johnston, Hannah Zwick, Courtney Sender, Amy Height, and Julia Milani. The show is edited and produced by Jesse Funk, with supervising producer Rima Il Kalli, and executive producers Aaron Manky,
Starting point is 00:52:45 Trevor Young, and Matt Frederick. For more podcasts from IHeartRadio, visit the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Readers, Katie's finalists, publicists. We have an incredible new episode this week for you guys. We have our girl Hillary Duff in here, and we can't wait for you to hear this episode. They put on Lizzie McGuire 2am, video on demand. This guy's bobo-o-o-bubim.
Starting point is 00:53:14 2 a whatever time it is. Lizzie McGuire. And I'm like the paper review. It was like a first closet moment from me where I was like, I don't feel like she's hot, like the rest of them. No, no, no. I was like, she's beautiful. But I'm appreciating her in a different way.
Starting point is 00:53:27 way than these boys are. I'm not like, but listen to Lascaultrisistas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Iris Palmer, host of the Against All Odds podcast. Every week, I'm sitting down with exceptional people who have broken barriers even when the odds were stacked against them. Like chef, Victor Villa, a Vias tacos. You know the taquero from the Bad Bunny halftime show?
Starting point is 00:53:55 It was great. It was a big moment. It was special. And I felt like I was really representing my family, you know, my brand, my city. I was representing all taqueros, not only of like, you know, the U.S., but of Mexico and beyond. All the taqueros of the world. Listen to Against All Odds on the IHeart Radio app,
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