Noble - Listen Now: Kill List

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

In the depths of the dark net, tech journalist Carl Miller makes a disturbing discovery: a secret Kill List targeting hundreds of innocent people on a murder for hire website. When the police decide n...ot to investigate, Carl is thrown into a race against time to warn those in danger and uncover the truth about the people who want them dead. From Wondery and Novel, comes a true story about obsession, control and the price of life and death. Listen to Kill List on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Kill List and more Exhibit C true crime shows like Morbid early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery+. Check out Exhibit C in the Wondery App for all your true crime listening. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm the host of Noble, Sean Raviv, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast. It's called Kill List. It starts one night when a hacker breaks into a murder-for-hire site on the dark web. The hacker uncovers a set of documents called the Kill List. It has hundreds of names on it from around the globe, complete with faces, addresses, and payments, and instructions for their murders. When a murder disguised as a suicide shakes a small suburb, the victim is connected to the kill list. And with local police slow to act,
Starting point is 00:00:30 he turns to an investigative journalist to help. His name is Carl Miller. Carl and his team decide to take matters into their own hands, which plunges them into a high-stakes race to warn those whose lives are in danger. And it turns out that convincing a total stranger that someone wants them dead is not that easy. Here's a clip from Kill List. Follow it on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, you ready? Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:03 It's a Thursday afternoon, and I'm on a call with one of my producers. The road outside my house is almost totally silent. On my computer, I open Chris's document. Oh, wow, there's a lot on here. Yeah. Chris has run me through the orders, but this is the first time
Starting point is 00:01:21 I've got my hands on the kill list itself. It's a long spreadsheet of names, locations, telephone numbers. So how many do we have? It looks like there's 85 on this list. I scroll through the list. A man from the US, a woman from Russia. Alongside each name, there are contact details. Workplace addresses, details of their movements. And in most cases, there are contact details, workplace addresses, details of their movements,
Starting point is 00:01:46 and in most cases, there are photos. The photos are the thing that strike me first. A few dozen people staring out at you as you open this document. In one, a middle-aged man stands surrounded by his family. His light blue eyes twinkle with a deep and joyful pride. In another, a woman tilts her head as she smiles shyly at the camera over rimless glasses. She's somewhere glitzy. She looks relaxed and happy. The thing that's so striking about these photos is that they look like they've all been taken from social media. They look like kind of
Starting point is 00:02:20 mainly Facebook profiles. So they're the ones that you decide to put on your profile picture. Yeah. They're nice photos. Yeah, and it's, I mean, it's just a photo, but they all just sort of have this, you know, they just don't know. And this is just sort of looming over their head and they have no idea, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Man, this is awful. This list looks like any other Excel spreadsheet. It's innocuous, boring even, Man, this is awful. This list looks like any other Excel spreadsheet. It's innocuous, boring even, until you read the instructions listed against each name. There's one fucking guy, and I only have his name and the city he lives in. How can I hire a killer to kill him? How much Bitcoin should I pay?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Tell me the execution time in advance. I can't be there. I would just like this person to be shot and killed. Where, how and what with does not bother me at all. I would just like this person dead. These are the messages written by whoever paid to have these people assassinated. Their specifications for the hit. Can you kidnap silent and erase without a trace?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Kill a nurse in Taipei. I guess we don't know the backstory, but like a nurse? I want her to be killed. It should seem she's dead because of accident, not by murder. Kidnap family in Hong Kong. Can we save 15 Bitcoin for a hit with a car and ensure fatality? Mother needs to die. Someone wants to kill their mom.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Kill an unidentified woman in Ottawa. Kill a woman who permitted sexual abuse. Moscow. Women. 45 years old. Jesus, man, this is terrible. These are really possibly 85 really serious crimes just staring back at us. Yeah. I mean, this is conspiracy
Starting point is 00:03:57 to commit murder. Ethically, this is the hardest thing to cover that i've ever tried to do um and and for sure i mean this is a ethical bomb waiting to blow up in our faces if we don't do this correctly yeah i don't know man it looks like a big pandora's box that we're opening and once you open it it's open man i don't think we can put it shut the thought of what could go wrong if I meddle with this is terrifying. But so is the thought of what could happen if I do nothing. So I start with the obvious step.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm quite nervous, honestly. Like, I wasn't able to sleep that well. I don't know why. It suddenly makes it a lot more real. I'm quite nervous, honestly. Like, I wasn't able to sleep that well. I don't know why. It suddenly makes it a lot more real when it's just a spreadsheet at the moment and it's about to turn into a crime. I'm about to phone the police and hand over my information. Chris might have struggled with law enforcement, but I've worked with the police before in my reporting. I'm confident I can do better.
Starting point is 00:05:05 After all, this is a credible threat. How hard can it be to get them to take it seriously? All right, should I just do it then? Follow Kill List on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Kill List and more Exhibit C true crime shows like Morbid early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Check out Exhibit C in the Wondery app for all your true crime listening.

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