Nobody Panic - Bonus Episode: Live on the Gordon’s Line - How to Make the Most of Your Commute

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

Stevie and Tessa are on a boat and coming up with ways to make your commute less hellish and/or boring. Tessa has also taken to whatsapping herself, but that’s a separate issue.Recorded live on the Gordon’s Line for @GordonsGinUK.Produced and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive Productions.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Follow Nobody Panic on Twitter @NobodyPanicPodSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.

True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true, Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. it. My mic off. I haven't turned my mic off. Thank you so much. Am I good? Tess is great. We're all doing great. We're here on the Gordon's line, which is a boat that's been taken over by Gordon's, shall we? We are doing an episode today, How to Make Your Commute Home and More Enjoyable. And this could not be a more exciting commute home if we tried. Yeah, it's quite stressful for us. This is the coolest place we've ever done a podcast. It's wonderful. So what we normally do, before we get into the episode is we just sort of talk about what adult thing we've done each week.

Yes. To make people feel confident that they're living okay. The bar is very low for these adult things. Once it was that I'd found a tin and I'd put some jewelry in it. That was the level that I'm operating at. So, Tessa, what is the most adult thing you've done this week? Mine is, well, my initial one was that I had this really good idea about how I'd started WhatsApping myself ideas.

For friendship or no two ideas. Yeah, because I reply. And the speed at which it went blue ticks was really thrilling. I thought, I wonder if you can do that or the algorithm will be like, you can't message yourself. But it turns out you can. And so if I needed like ideas or photos, I was WhatsApping myself and I feel, so I recommend it. But my actual one... I just use the notes function.

That's what I do. It's an option. My actual one is that I have just moved into a new horrible flat. Congratulations. Thank you so much. London! I can't afford it. It's a shittle.

It's a shittle. And the sofa looks like it has come out of a skip. Like they've actively got it from a skip. It's so horrid. And I couldn't afford to get rid of it. And it turns out, have you ever tried seeing how much a sofa is? It's so much. No, I've no idea.

I'd say, what, like £500? More? 10,000 pounds. There's a lady saying no. Who's bought a sofa? How big is your sofa? Is it made of diamond? Honestly.

It's not even big. big, right? Because you think, like, I don't know, 20 quid? Yeah, probably. It's so expensive. And so abandoned shit with that,

but then Instagram, because they're reading our thoughts, they were like, hey, what about these special sofa covers? And then there's all these videos of people very quickly putting like an elastic sofa cover on a sofa really fast

and it looks amazing. It costs 10 pounds. I never liked to really big up at Instagram, but it looks incredible. And so I've now, I've covered my... With a little jacket. With a towel. With a towel.

tiny sofa jacket. I can't recommend it enough. Google sofa covers, or now that you've even heard the idea, it'll come up on your Instagram as well. But like, that was my one. And I felt so grown up, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, that's amazing.

What's your one? I made scones, but they were very flat, like drinks coasters. So you couldn't... Like a rock. Yeah, like a rock. So you couldn't cut them. You know, like you're supposed to, obviously,

I don't even have to explain that. You're supposed to cut scons and put jam on them. But you couldn't, so it was like scone crumble. but they were also burnt and the raisins set on fire. Yay. So, but I like that I tried. And now I know what to do next,

which is not to make scones again. That's all, any of us can ask, that you just try. Just try. You learn and you try next time. And the process was very just euphoric for me that I was doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Buzing on your Martha Stewart scone making. High off my scones.

So, right, so with like the whole commuting, yes. Obviously in London, we all commute a lot. lot. We're commuting right now. I think the average commute is like an hour and a half a day. Yes. So supposedly the average commute is 45 minutes there. We decided that anything under half an hour was just a lot of a lovely ramble. Stop complaining. It doesn't count. Anything above that is, I think that's fair. Would you like to tell them about your maths? My math. Yeah, I did some math. It took me a long time. Okay. So an hour or half a day means that, I mean, everyone probably just

knows this anyway, but I need to use a calculator. later. Hour and a half a day means that over a year you spend 16 and a quarter days commuting. Okay. So if you're doing more than 45 there and back, you're spending longer commuting. Sounds depressing. I'm using this as a motivational tool. So why, why not use that time in a positive funner? Fun-ish? The most fun you can way. Yes. So it's not because I think the thing is that you just want to check out immediately, don't you? You just want to like, just be anywhere other than where you are. Whereas actually, if you live in the moment, live in the mome, then you live in life. Right?

That's my motto. I think the whole idea both of like, we have a lot of requests about doing this trying to make your commute better because I think that's where people listen to a lot of their podcasts and they want to be like, how can I use this time? And also I think that's what the Gordon's line is about is being like, how can we make this, what's the most amazing way we could possibly get home? And like, how can we stop and enjoy everything?

So we get on this boat every day, I think is the only, unfortunately. That's the only option. That's the only way you can do it. So, bye. A friend of mine literally moved to Tanzania because she was on the central line one day and it broke down. And she was like, in a man's armpit. And she was like, I'm moving to Tanzania. She's not had any previous connection with Tanzania.

She was working in advertising and she's just like, no. And I think that's a real, I feel that every time I go on the central line, or just any commuting situation. It's so hot. It feels, and rush hour is so. tricky when you're in a city. Is she in Tanzania now? She's absolutely fine. She had a nervous breakdown. That boat's going so fast. Look at how fast here? There's a speed boat. That's a Thames Clipper. That's a genuine commute. So that's people are going home on their actual commute. You can use the boat. It's slightly more expensive, but it is nice. It's a nice way to go.

But yeah, no, so she ended up just changing her career and just like to, I think she was independently quite wealthy, otherwise how did she have been able to have done that? alert, she's rich. So be rich and move to Tanzania, point one. Any point two? Thank you. Let me take that baton and run with it. Well, maybe she has more money now. She's in Tanzania. Guys, option one in Tanzania. Option two. We, there's some research. Gordon's did some research into the state of the British commute. State of it. 22% of Brits choose to go completely silent, not uttering a word during the commute. And I can't

believe that's so low. I think that's everyone. It's like 99.5% in London. Maybe it's because like outside maybe in like Kent everyone's chatting to themselves in their car or something. No. You must be silent on your commute. But also if somebody

on the turnaround was like, how was your day? Hello. I'd be like absolutely not. No baby. No way. Sometimes very late at night like on the night bus home when like that sometimes there's like a couple of breaking up or something. You're like Give me more. Yeah.

I love that. Absolutely. No, you know when like people get on and they've been to a wedding and they're like... I've been to a wedding. I feel like that annoying. Do you like it? I quite like that bit. Do you chat to people who've been to a wedding? Yeah. Why then the night bus after a wedding?

Get an Uber. This is my own personal judgment. It's my own personal judgment and that's mean. Does an Uber count is commuting? No. Of course not. Okay. Imagine if you're going to Uber to and from, what people probably do. It's just that I'm poor. Okay. So even if you are in your... your Uber commuting, it's still, you know.

It's a silent commute, though, isn't it? It's still time that you aren't at work, you aren't at home. It's still technically like nothing time. Yes, it's nothing time. And I think the, you kind of want to be like, take up a new hobby. Realistically, you're not going to take up a new hobby on your commute. But what you can do is like, just make it a little bit nicer.

Just make it a little bit more productive, because considering it's 16 and a half days of your year, which actually is not a huge amount, but it's enough to be doing something. And again, this is statistic. I can't believe this is true. Almost half of Brits, 47%, admit to being bored of their commute. Again, what's the other 53?

What are you doing? Just happy to be out of the house. Literally. And you're like, whoa. Like, what are you doing? I like cars. I can't fathom how you aren't bored. Anyway, so I think it's so easy to be like, I hate my commute.

You know, I'm just going to play my games or I'm going to be this totally silent. I'm just going to emotionally check out of this whole experience. But if you do emotionally check out, that's 45 minutes there, 45 minutes back, an hour and a half a day, 16 days a year that you have chosen to just emotionally check out of the whole experience. Of course you haven't chosen as well because your brain switches into alpha, you use alpha and beta waves. So when you're like, wow, thank you. I'm a professor of brains.

When your brain is like, what's the word? Like it's stimulated by something. So you're making active choices. Then you are basically like alert. But then your brain can very, very easily switch into kind of beta waves, which is like when you're like ironing. or when you're like doing something that you do a lot. Oh wow. On the commute.

So that's where sometimes you can like literally commute to work. I'm like, I don't know what I did. Like I could actually remember changing trains. Yeah. I'm actually surprised I'm out of the house. Sometimes I'm on Twitter and then I think, oh, I should check Twitter. You know? Yes.

Yes. I've very much been there. And then I'm like, oh, I'm bloody out. I'm on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just, you're out. It's like that with a commute. Well, so again, research in the University of London found that taking a tiny change into your day

however small, they even said going to a toilet on a different floor of your office. A bit of fun. If you're at that level, look at other areas of your life. Try to spice it up, I think. Set on the toilet backwards. Do some more interesting. Look, I don't not recommend it.

I've never done it. I bet you have. I have. I've tried it, yeah. It doesn't work because that's not how they're never designed. Does it not? No. I want to try immediately. So, go to the toilet in a different place.

or taking any tiny change to your route home. So walking a bit more to a different... No, sorry. I've really not understood this point. Go on, continue. Walking to a different tube stop, that's one further down the line than you need to be. Don't sigh.

No, I just mean like, I won't do that. Well, why not? Because I'll be like, well, that's closest, so I'll just get on here. That's my roleplay that I'm doing. Yeah, but remember, 16 hours a day. So we're trying to get you out of beta wave, into Alpha Wave, be more creative on it.

Okay, yeah. Because you don't want to get... Or you could try, like, cycling. If you have, like, a car, you could try car sharing. I suppose you could do, like, do, like, just slightly different things rather than, like, go out of your way to make your commute more long. It is nice to walk. It is nice to walk.

Yeah, I often used to commute when I... We worked in an office, I would walk, but sometimes it'd do, like, two and a half hours. So it was, like, a nice thing to do, like, I'll do like once a week. Sure. And it kind of keeps things spicy. What I'm saying is... What I'm saying is... Keep it spicy for yourself.

Yes. And... Keep it hot, do you know what I mean? Be quiet Walk to a different Tube stop Change somewhere different On route

If you can Like just go see something different Sit in a different carriage Than you normally Do something different maybe So like if you're always Like if you're like if you're Like as I always read on the tube

Yeah How do you commute often? Is it? It is You're a bus girl on it I do love the bus Even if it'll take twice the time And if I can sit on the top deck

Of the bus Oh yes please The 38 Mwa Muam Wah It takes about four hours It takes such a long time to get to Clapton on the bus from central London but you always opt for that. I love it.

I just, I love to sit there. I hate the tube. I don't like to be underground. So if I can be upstairs. Staring at people. Yeah, well that is something that people like to do the, the staring, the people watching. People watching, yeah. Well, I mean like, so if you, so you're,

you're like a bus person, so maybe you should take the tube occasionally or maybe you should like listen, like, so what's the word like prepare? What's the word prepare for your commute a little bit better? So like being able to download a different podcast, download some music, play a game. Do like, so whatever you normally tend to do to check out, try and do something else.

That is the sort of point, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think like, because I actually don't mind, I was going to say I don't mind it, but I do. You mind what? The long journey. Well, then you need to, well, then we need to solve your community. Sorry, yes.

This problem was about like being prepared for things. So it's like, make sure that you have got your correct shoes. that you need to get home, because nothing worse than being stuck stuck in your office shoes to make the journey. Oh, your heels, yeah. Don't be stuck in your heels. Have the right coat.

Have your bus, have, you know, everything that you need. Have your iPhone charger. Have your snacks that you need. Have a book. Download a series. So I keep seeing people on the tube watching like full series. I'm like, this is great. I've not even thought to do that.

I haven't done it, but I will in the future. So it's that sort of thing about like... Watch CSI, for example. Watch succession. Watch like any of these popular things. Like, you can actually see. sit there and watch them on the thing and then it's like, oh, this is a thing I'm looking forward to rather than just something that is happening to me and there's nothing I can do about it.

A nice thing that I read that someone suggested is if you're above ground for your commute, you can use like hands-free thing and use it to do something like, so for example, I'm always like, I don't call my grandma enough. I just don't. Yeah. I always forget. It's terrible. But now I've started doing this thing that from the tube, the walk to my flat, I always call her, not every time. because I was like three times a day. That's too much for her. But like, yeah, so having a thing where, so each day you will call someone,

or you will do something for someone else that you would ordinarily be like, I forgot to do that. If you build it into your commute, then it comes more like naturally. Exactly. I think it's about like building that routine of like, what do I do with this time?

Oh, this is when I call somebody. Or like, this is when I do my ideas. Or this is when I write down this or this is when I read my book. It's about being like, oh, I'm excited to use this extra time and I'm excited to take it rather than just being like, oh, this is happening to me. But I'm like, oh, I'm so looking forward to this.

This is the time that I do this. This is like get so much stuff done. So it doesn't feel like a commute. It feels like special time. A friend of mine meditates, genuinely meditates on the tube. I mean, she must look mad, but like she has the calm app. So there's like 10 minutes where a woman called Tabitha, potentially, or Tamara. Could be.

Could be. Or Thomas says, like, it's called like the daily calm. And it'll be like, today we're talking about life. I'm like, great. And then she'll tell you about it. Close your eyes. You don't have, she doesn't say close your eyes. The vibe is very much don't have your eyes open.

But like if you, I think you can get away with closing your eyes on the tube if you lay your head back. Because it looks like you're having to snoo. Well, I think there's so much. If you don't, then you're like, that's weird. There's so much weirdness happening on that packed horrible tube. And no one's looking at each other. Everyone's staring at you anyway. Footwear.

That's all we're looking at. Or watching something over the next person's shoulder. Yeah. Thinking about how much they hate it and how they're going to move to Tanzania. Absolutely. So, you know, I think. I think, close your eyes, do the meditation if it works for you. I don't think start there because it's a tube.

It's quite, that's quite high, high risk. High risk, but high yield. Because you will become more mentally healthy. Yeah, right? So then be like, oh, this year I spent 16 days meditating, which is an incredible feeling. Yes, unless you drive a car and then don't meditate. Eyes open. Eyes open and just listen to something more rousing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very important that I got the distinction between those two words. My mum listens to the Inception soundtrack when she's going to work. Does that help? Well, she found that she was speeding quite a lot and then she had to stop. But the vibe was very much like film soundtracks were quite like because like in the morning she had to get really early. And in like the morning it could have give her a bit of a pep rather than listening to kind of, she found listening to kind of like podcast or things would kind of settle her into.

She'd feel a bit too calm to like be pumped up for the day. but then Inception was too pumped up so I think she's probably like found a happy medium of I don't know the I can't think of any film soundtrack whatever is between those two Moana Moana the Harry Potter

The greatest showman The greatest showman Options Yeah so maybe it's about that morning thing being like And now I'm going to arrive at work As in like as ready as I possibly can be This is about me like psyching myself up for the day But like within reason

Because I think sometimes you do just need to check out So I think you have to be like With all the things that you want to change just be, don't beat yourself up for not meditating every day. No, absolutely. If you're like, I don't mind my commute. I fucking love Candy Crush. I'm in.

I don't care. And Candy Crush is actually a very valid way to spend your time. Monument Valley. Yes, it's, don't shake it out. I am shaking my head at you. It's quite fun. I'm not saying it's not quite fun. I'm just saying if I said you spent 16 days this year playing Candy Crush.

I'd be devastated. Yeah, exactly. I see your point. Better to be like, I spent 16 days meditating or reading this book or listening to this podcast or learning or improving or nothing. of the language, like get one of the babel apps or duolingo owl. Oh god. So instead of it, commute, it's being like,

oh, this is my 45 minutes with my owl that I'm absolutely terrified of. Bring your owl on the commute. Trapped in an abusive relationship with this owl. So maybe it's about that. That's what you spend your time doing. Yes. A friend of mine recently, I just went to a book launch yesterday

and she wrote a kid's book and she's always wanted to write a kid's book and she's like, I don't have any time. She's actually in Magic Mike Live. She's the main part in Magic Mind Live. Yeah. She wrote a kid's book. absolutely clarify what she does in Magic Mike Live.

She's a male stripper. No, she's not. No, no, she's the feminist element where she's like, it's all great. Consent is great. Isn't this fun? She doesn't rap. She doesn't rap. No, I'm rapping.

That's how I convey information. She's got a great script and it's very good and she's brilliant. But she has to be like, she has to be at the Lester Square Hippodrome very late and she lives in seven notes. And on the train every day, on her phone notes, she just started like writing little ideas. about for a book and now it's become a kid's book and it literally was written on the train and everyone always goes like JK Rowling wrote it on the train you're like well she probably didn't

like she probably had more but she literally did so I think you can... That's amazing. It's something that you've always wanted to be like yeah I've got to do that even if it's just because I know there's a lot of there was a lot of websites that I looked at about commuting and it was like write your gratitudes down yes it's like I love that and I'll never do it like ever let's unpack

why not? I just think I've got better things to do like what stare at shoes write it down there's a reason people say that's a good thing to do i can't get over as we've talked about before on this podcast i can't i can't get over the like you know like that's lame like what if someone looked across he's like i always look at what other people are doing and if i look at what other people are doing and someone's writing like today i was thankful for i'd be like oh okay so don't write today i was thankful for okay writing in code yes say like carroll i just wanted

to address some of the points from the meeting i think I am happy for. I am happy for. And then you say, my health, in the form of an email to Carol. Okay. Okay, so I'm writing the emails.

Options, okay. Or I WhatsApp myself. Or you WhatsApp yourself. Dear Stevie. Dear Stevie, I'm grateful for this. Yes. I mean,

there is a reason, like we always talk about how it's like, it's pretentious and it's wanky and it feels horrible. But there's a reason. Like bullet journaling.

I want to do it, but will I? And I won't. I hate myself. Yeah, but there is a reason that people claim that they're so amazing because they are.

Are they? Yes. Do you do it? Yes. No. I've never seen you Bullet Journal. I couldn't grasp it. It was too much for me

the bullet journey. But I am quite into the gratitude thing. There's too much pressure with the gratitude journal because what if I can't think of something to be grateful for? That means that my day... What are you grateful for today? I don't know.

Are you joking? We're on a boat. I don't know if I'm grateful for being on a boat. I'm happy to be on the boat, but am I grateful for it. That's the same. I think you've confused what grateful is. Okay.

I don't understand what it means. It's just like... Today I got to go on a boat. Like, that's cool. Yeah, it was fun. I'm having a nice time. Exactly. I got this gin.

And I'm enjoying the gin. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's, the gratitude thing doesn't have to be like, oh, this enormous stuff. It can be like, my buttons look cool. I think that if I had a gratitude journal and I looked back and they were all things like, my buttons looked cool. It's not to look back on. I would really be upset.

Right. We're going to have to circle back here. It's not about looking back on it in years to come and being like, what a grateful girl. Oh, it's about being in the moment. It's about being in the moment. and saying like, and just checking, and being like, oh, yeah, life's all right, actually. Like, even though you're like, oh, I'm on this commute, you're like, oh, shit, like, I've got a job, I've got cool buttons, I'm on this boat. Like, what more could you possibly?

No, that is nice. I have three sausages from the buffet. Okay, that's true. I'm real grateful. You've got a lot of briosh. I did eat too much broshe. Yeah. And like, it's about checking in and being like, oh, yeah, this is all right.

Can I also say, though, maybe it's okay to not want to do a gratitude journal. but also fill your commute with other things, you know, because not everything is for everybody. Maybe, I don't know. I understand. What would you like to, what are you going to take on as your personal one? I'm going to, well, I've started, I've got a notebook, and I'm trying to like be more creative.

I don't, that's a very vague goal, so it's very easy to retrieve. Yes. I make anything now and done it. Smashed it today. But I just like to kind of, I'm trying to like write more stuff or like pitch more articles as a journalist. And like, just trying to like keep my professional career. it going. So I like to write down

kind of like, here are the things that I can get so overwhelmed with the actual job that I'm doing at hand that I don't think about this sort of side hustle that I'm doing. So I kind of use it to like be like, okay, so maybe this is an idea for an article or maybe like this is a good podcast suggestion for next week for me and you or whatever.

Just so then I feel like I'm doing something. Also I kind of want to write a book but I'm embarrassed to tell people so that's why I've been not saying it. But like I'm trying to write down ideas for a book as well. And then hoping to know what I am. But I'm hoping that no one looks over and then it's like, are you writing ideas for a book? That's a terrible book. So what are the chances that that happens? Oh, very high. The amount of people I know who

are so terrified to write anything down in case someone looks over their shoulder or they die in a fire. Yes, and then the notebook's on them and then they're like, oh, well, she was going to write this book. It looked terrible. So I'm glad she's gone. Like, you know, whatever say that. They might. I promise if you die, I will burn all of my notebooks. That's my solemn promise. Actually, no, I'll take that. Yeah. But especially the notebooks. Yeah. Now will you write it down?

Yeah, right. Yeah. Though, may I tell you this? If anyone's listening to this podcast called the Australian, and it's about this very unsolved missing person, Kay, from 30 years ago, the grandma in it, when she was dying, said to her daughter, take these notebooks, I'm so embarrassed by them, her diaries. Please get rid of them, put them in the bin.

And the daughter couldn't bear, like, this is when the lady was 90, and the daughter was like 50. And she was like, oh, I can't bear it. So I held on to these diaries. and 30 years later, they were used in a cold case murder trial and they acted as evidence and the guy went to jail. Oh, wow. Do not burn your diaries, guys.

Oh, wow. Keep them safe. Yeah, because you think they're all crap, but they could be something amazing. It could be something in them that could send someone to the... Yeah, and also, like, nobody really is ever going to look and be like, oh, she was, what rubbish ideas. No one's ever, ever thought that.

But when something becomes old enough, it's just always interesting. Yeah, exactly. The banal crap that my, like, Nana had, like, wrote in her stuff. And you're just like, I don't know. old letter though. It's like a tax letter or something like, wow, but it's like browned at the edges. It's so exciting. Anything from the war. It's just immediately

interesting because it's from the war. My friend found her grandma's diary when she died and I'm so stressed for the grandma though. You know what I mean? Just in that in case with some really private things in there. Well, that's what they're hoping for. Some good, salicious, sexy, sexy goss. Sexy grandma goss. And in

once a week, she'd put this little code to herself and written BF in the corner in a circle and they were like oh my god what's bf is it like boning frances i'm gonna say i thought you were and i was like don't say boning francis oh you did some like sexy code yeah but turned out uh boiled flannels like that's what she done with that day with that day is just boiled that's the real downer so what i'm saying is how much was a downer was that so write down your cool ideas okay great because they're gonna be more interesting than boil my flannels you're you're giving all that validation to that man who's looking over your shoulders

saying that's a crap idea. And it's also a man who's like a professor at Harvard. Exactly. He's not on the tube with you. He's not as easy. And you are letting him stop you from doing all your ideas and writing your book. Great. Okay. I'll thank you. But this is great. Yeah, do it. I genuinely feel good. I yeah. And I think like we need to just, if we could just get away from being like,

what will people think of me if I meditate or if I write or if I do this or if I read, you know, people will be all judgy. Be like, they won't. They're too busy thinking how they wish they were doing that. Yeah. You know? Absolutely. But also, we haven't talked about cars, because that's the thing. Please, let us. I love cars, that's my point.

Famously. No, because obviously if you're commuting in a car, for me, I don't, that sounds like an absolute paradise, because you've got your own little world that you just move in. But obviously, maybe it's boring and maybe... Well, expensive. Expensive, bad for the environment. Parking is very stressful.

Traffic is a nightmare. Car share. Car share, yeah. One of my friends car shares, two. work to give her a pep but then home from work never car shares because what does she do with them what does she leave them no as in they work with her

so how does she leave them at work oh that's a really good point she just told me that and I was like I didn't even think of that how do they get home I guess they are dead I guess they stay in the office no they must they must be like sort of more maybe she goes in their car but then she goes home

herself or goes home as one else's car just a woman is perpetually getting in people's cars yeah or maybe she's train the home but your car shares there. Either way. Either way, that wasn't the point. The point was that like, sometimes you don't want a car share home because you're like, well, I don't want to talk to a work colleague for

more time outside of my office, but getting there, a bit of a motivational pep, because then you can't just be like, because you've got someone to talk to. Unless they're really annoying, then don't car share with that person. But I think find a human person to talk to, no matter how much we're all like, oh, I want to be on my own,

don't talk to me. You're like, actually, talk to people. Although the horror when I to work in an office and I'd see like a colleague like about some seven stops and be like you've ruined my staring time. Do you know? I now have to talk about the office for longer than when I'm in the office. That is the worst. Yeah. So I don't really know what my advice is there. Just live your life, I guess. Live your life and love it. Live your life, mate. Look at your life and love it. I, uh, yeah, I guess it's, it's fine it for you. If you hate everyone you work with, obviously do not car share with them. If you think they might be all right. I mean,

look at Peter Kay's car share, they fell in love. So, did they? Did you watch the show? No. Well, I don't know what it is at all. Peter Kay, the comedian, wrote a show called Car Share. Okay, great. It's genuinely wonderful, but they are two strangers who did not want to Car Share

because they wanted their alone time. Oh, okay. And they fall in love. So maybe you'll also fall in love. That is nice. Yeah. These are my very last things. They're just about the preparation element to it

and about not getting sort of caught. It's basically like have your umbrella at your desk, have your different shoes, have your snacks. Yeah, you're supposed to have a bag at your desk on you that takes you from desk to dance floor and then your car. Yes. But that's never happened. I was so desperate to go from desks to dance floor.

Yes, it was, we were really sold as kids, the idea that like with a statement blazer you'd be able to go straight to thing. You always have heels in your drawer and a spare pair of pants. Woo! And then you just have some pants in your drawer fray. That's what happened. And then you bossies, you've got pants and your pants. That's basically what happens.

Yeah, exactly. So, like, have your shoes, have your pants, have your earphones, have your backup phone charger, because nothing worse than settling in, and then you're on 3% and that's the end of that. Like, have it all ready for yourself. And so the beginning and the end of every single day, you do yourself this great service where you're like, this is my time to either psych up for the day or wind down, you know? And they aren't just like, ugh, the world is happening at me. It's like, I'm taking this choice.

I'm taking this moment. I'm enjoying this. And try and enjoy something. Like, you don't have to hate every second of it. It doesn't have to force you to go to Tanzania. Yeah, like the perspective is important. Stevie, you can literally get the Thames Clipper home. I can.

I live very close to a Temes Clipper. If you live near the water, literally ride the boat. It takes a lot longer, but it's worth it. I have a great time. Exactly, it's worth it. Like, to enjoy it. Better it takes longer and you had a wonderful time than it was quicker and you hated every second.

Yeah. Get Uber's everywhere. Fine. Live your life. Live your life. We are nearly at the end. Thank you so, so much. much for being a wonderful audience and thank you for

hanging out with us on this cool boat. This cool green boat. We hope that it's in some way improved your commute for the future and you've got something to take with you. I hope if you've got a children's book that you're thinking about up there that you start writing it or any great ideas or you want to change the world or start that tech startup or your app or whatever it is you're doing with yourselves

that you be like, yeah, I'm going to do that on my commute. Yeah, use it to be a little bit more creative. Maybe meditate. Maybe don't if you're driving. Maybe read that book. you always meant to read, maybe learn that language, maybe just... Call your grandma on your hands free. Call your grandma safely. Safely call your grandma. And maybe just take a moment, enjoy it and be like, oh, how cool actually that I got somewhere

to be and I got a home to go home to, you know? Lovely. Great. Well, also, followers, nobody panicked off. Thank you so much to Gordon's. Hashtag Gordon's line at Gordon's Gin UK. That's you can... Yeah?

That's right. Great. their line is, shall we? And we've been saying, shall we? Shall we? Shall we? Shall we? We shall.

I don't know what that is, but shall. It is a yes. It's a hard yes from me. Thank you all so much for be here. Thank you, Stevie for having us. Thank you, Gordons. And have an amazing rest of your commute. Thank you so much.

Thank you.