Nobody Panic - How to Deal with Sunday Night Blues

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

It's our 200th episode! But we WON'T mention that! So, panicking at dusk every Sunday? Tessa and Stevie come up with about 17 mnemonics, acronyms and slogans that don’t make sense, but (thankfully) ...lots of tips that do, to try and help you combat end-of-the-week gloom. Subscribe to the Nobody Panic Patreon at patreon.com/nobodypanicWant to support Nobody Panic? You can make a one-off donation at https://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanicRecorded and edited by Naomi Parnell for PlosivePhotos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The date is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace. It's coming to London. True on Saturday the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true. Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Hello, 200. We've got a trombonist in. And a trumpeter? We've got them in from the... They're new. They haven't played their instruments before. And God bless them, I say.
Starting point is 00:00:59 They're trying their hardest. And there's the drummer. Glitter cannon, glitter cannon, sparks, bits. Oh, my God, it's a cake, Stevie. Oh, it's a cake. 200 candles. This is our 200th episode of... And apart from this, we're not really going to mention it.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yeah, no, I just thought it's nice. It's nice, isn't it? I mean, I didn't... Producer Naomi reminded us. Oh, I've been counting each one by the day. I know. You've been notching it on your bedpost. On my bed post.
Starting point is 00:01:30 That's nothing else goes there. Let me tell you that. That's a weird thing to say, isn't it? No, that was very sexy. Yeah, this is our 200th episode of this podcast. What's been your favourite episode? Not of this just of anything. I like to season three of a very.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I was like halfway through. I like the community episode, the paintball episode of community. It's really good. That's a really good one, yeah. Okay, well, so today's episode is about the Sunday Blues. It is. I will share one thing,
Starting point is 00:02:01 only because it came in today, and I thought, auspicious, arrived this morning. It's not particularly exciting. I think it just is a marker of like, because sometimes it is just me and you hanging out, and then sometimes we get emails from people. You're like, oh, wait, we've been of some use, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:16 It's so nice to think we've been of some use. Right. And absurd. It is absolutely absurd. Really fun. I think that we've been of use. This is from somebody who titles their email, Bonsois, both. Oh, I like it.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Oh, I like it. Bonsoir to you. Just wanted to share my adult thing, which is I took myself away for a long weekend in Paris, inspired by your episode about how to go away by yourself. Oh. I was freaking out about my first solo holiday, but I re-listened to the episode on the plane, and I've had the most liberating time doing exactly what I want for two whole days. Now, I've sadly not met Gabrielle the chef from Emily in Paris, but there's always next time.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm currently sitting in the hammock in the window of my Airbnb watching a thunderstorm, feeling so pleased that I did this. So thanks for making me believe that I could. Oh. Isn't that nice? That is nice. And that's all for you. If I may come straight back at you, Tessa, please. Because it is, of course, a competition.
Starting point is 00:03:18 A message that we got last week, in fact, which really made me very happy, which is, this is Anne on Twitter, and she said, I won't read the whole thing, but she said, your episode, How to Smash Public Speaking, when you introduced the ideas of hoops and how we don't have to be the world's best jumper
Starting point is 00:03:36 and jump through them right, but just get through them the sneakiest way possible, ladders, etc. I remember that episode, has made scales I wasn't even aware of, popped right off my eyes with my brand new 2020 vision. I'm seeing jump-assisted hoops everywhere and it's been a real revelation. That's so nice.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That's lovely. It's like little, when I've had that when I've been listening to something or reading something, it's like a little bit of advice where a little thing has really got me and I think about it all the time. And it's nice to think that weirdly we were that for somebody. It really is, isn't it? There's a fantastic podcast called, I'll just spend our time now promoting other podcasts, if I may.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Off menus, very good. Very good stuff. I've been something called Pug by Kate Boulant and Jacqueline Novak. Pug is goop backwards. And it's a sort of... They're both very, very funny, but they are quite sincerely discussing wellness.
Starting point is 00:04:26 But in one of the very first episode, they say, well, of course, the ego wishes to seek, but never find. And it's about our obsession with, like, we want to research stuff, we want to get things right, we want to find the perfect cream, but then when we actually find it,
Starting point is 00:04:39 we're like, next thing. Yeah. And I have been saying it to myself, but daily. So imagine something we have said off the fly. Off the hoof.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Off the hoof. Off the fly of the hoof and now people think of it. Mad, hey? Mad. Well, that's not self-congratulating for now. That's quite enough of that,
Starting point is 00:04:59 thank you. We're British. Imagine we're like, and that's enough, and we're off. And we're off. It's just a bonus episode to say how good we are.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Right. Today's episode is, I think this is an episode suggestion, very close to my heart. It was an email from Charlotte. Hello, Charlotte. How do we deal with the Sunday night blues? I used to think this was just me,
Starting point is 00:05:17 but I've noticed that even people who like their jobs get the pangs after two sweet days of freedom. Is this just something we live with, or is there a way we can make Sunday night joyous? If anyone can answer these questions, it's you too. Charlotte, that's so nice. Unless the answer is just that it's universally shit. No, I don't think it is. And thank you so much. Godspeed to you, Charlotte. I think it's a great one because, I mean, who doesn't relate to feeling, suddenly that feeling. For me, it comes around 4pm. When's your Sunday night blues? But when you used to have a job.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I still get it now, to be honest. I was such a goodie-to-shoes at school. Right. They actually really liked... I loved school. Yeah. So I really didn't have this on a Sunday. And, whereas I know some people had it horrendously.
Starting point is 00:06:00 What about work? And I didn't have it then either. Right. Okay. You're the first person I've ever spoken to who doesn't relate to this. Well, it looks like I'll be doing the heavy-lifting version of it. So you don't ever after Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, the thought of getting up at 7 in the morning to go to your commute,
Starting point is 00:06:21 to go to the office and do, I'm just, I mean, I just did some blowing there because I was cleaning my glasses. It was very powerful, but I just put, happy over Friday night, Saturday night, and then you're off. No, you're absolutely right. I think, I think I just, you're absolutely right. It's a work thing that I think it's, for some people, I just know it's so deeply entrenched.
Starting point is 00:06:42 school and oh is it's not entrenched in school with me so a lot of people it's it comes it just touches back it immediately sends them back to this like very intense thing about how much they hated school and for a very specific a niche group of people not niche but a small
Starting point is 00:06:58 particular group of people the people who had to get back in the car and go to boarding school oh god yeah who and it was this physical being removed from your home you know back there for the week or to your weekly boarding whatever for them like Sundays are like true hell And so a lot of stuff has to, you know, all this sort of childhood stuff comes up every single Sunday.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And so for a long time I did remember thinking that I, so I always just thought myself quite lucky that I didn't have it because I liked school. And also at university Sunday night used to be film sock. Oh, that's nice. In the hall. And I went there every 8pm and I would have a pint of Coca-Cola and from the bar. And then there was a little tuck shop. Yes. Right? And like it was just, and you know, about 10 pence, you got a little bag of sweets.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We were the famous five. Yeah, we were the famous five and off you went. My Sunday is actually my sort of my favorite day because I like all the things on a Sunday. Oh, I love Sunday, yeah. But I mean, I just mean, when you had a job that you didn't like. When I get the jobs I didn't like, the evenings, it is this horrible like, here we go again and it's five more days of this. My very worst one was when I was doing my NCTJ, my national journalist,
Starting point is 00:08:11 some qualification in Clapham College and I lived very, very far away from it. So it took me like an hour and a half to get there. And you had to be there very early in the morning and I really did not like it. And I was in trouble for back chat a lot. And I had raised my, I had a lot of opinions. And I remember that and I was very, very hungry and very, very sad and very, cold. And I do remember the Sundays just being so bleak of being like. Yeah, I think that's the thing. think it's a, well, for me, I don't get the residual feeling. Yeah, uni Sundays were very nice or fine or sort of completely, what's the word? Because I did an arts degree, not really anything. I think, I think when we talk about the Sunday blues, it comes down to like, well, what does, what is Monday to you? What is Monday to you? What is Monday to you? What is Monday to you? And I think that's, we're hitting on the big thing here. It's just like, if you hate Monday, then by nature Sunday will be, if Monday is, I return to. boarding school, I go back to the job I hate, I do the hour and a half to commute to a class I hate that's costing me money and I can't afford to be here. Then it's this like, what am I
Starting point is 00:09:20 doing and why? I really like my job, but it doesn't change the fact that I much prefer doing nothing and having fun overdoing anything. So Mondays will automatically be, even though I'm self-employed and can choose what I do to an extent, will always be, it's the start of the, oh, I should be working mindset over the it's Sunday he he I can just lie down all day it's the beginning of a panic attack of like I haven't done the homework yes yes oh no and it's and it's called anticipatory anxiety which is what a lot unless you have a very specific thing so unless you're listening to test and you're really relating to the yes it's comes from school oh yes it's because I've really struggle with my job oh yes like because also as well that you can have um when I when I worked and
Starting point is 00:10:09 sort of roughly the same kind of job for like four years, that the Sunday Blues would come and go depending on what the week was like. So sometimes I'd be like, yeah, that's quite a good week ahead. I was like, I'm actually fine with it. Or I would be desperate to not go in. And I just didn't want the weekend to end because I was like, I can't be bothered with what I have to do.
Starting point is 00:10:26 There's too much or there's too. And there's also the fear, I think, that we want the very specific Sunday blues that I go, which is around sort of 6pm, which is the moment when I realize Sunday's over. And now it's the evening. And I'm like, well, I suppose. I should go to bed early and do it.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I get very worried on Sunday that I'm not going to be able to do the week well enough. That's my thing. So it's not even about not liking my job. But I think there's a very distinct difference because often with these sorts of things, you can. And I think I've certainly on this podcast been guilty of saying blithe, glib, things like, well, if you're not happy about, for example, I could say now, if you get the Sunday blues before work, change.
Starting point is 00:11:08 you're going to have to change your job. You obviously don't like it. But actually, I think it's maybe a bit more complex than that. I think it's probably something to do with the fact that what we've done is we've made work, you know, Monday to Friday, work. And then we are only allowed to have these two days, and they are precious. And they're the days where you're meant to do your laundry. You have fun time.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Do all the things. And then you're quite tired after doing all the things. And then it just starts again. And I think that is that feeling of being like, oh, it just starts again. and the dread may be coming from just the way we've, the way that society is structured rather than your particular Monday. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:46 This is going to be a misquote attributed to no one. But somebody in a discussion of capitalism was like the greatest trick capitalism ever played was suggesting that you only work for eight hours a day. You only work for eight out of 24 hours. Whereas in fact, you are asleep for another eight of those. And so really you actually have the smallest amount of time of the thing available to you. And if you have to travel for your work, that's now on either side.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And so really it's this like, it's only eight out of 24. You've got a rapid bit of maths. Forty-five hours left for you. That's loads of hours. So like... Well, you realistically, yeah, you're happy to be like eight and whenever you go to bed. And if you get up at like six, you want to go to bed about half ten? Maybe some people do.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And then you've got two hours. Two hours. And in that you need to do all of your admin and all of your business and your laundry and do other stuff. And so truly to have like to had a good weekend, like to truly have like done an activity, had gone out, senior friends, had a party, gone to a barbecue, gone rock climbing, done some physical things. Cleaned the whole house. Cleaned the whole house, done all your laundry, done any residual work that you needed to really smash the week. I mean, that's impossible. I need a weekend to get over the house. A week.
Starting point is 00:13:03 weep so for me it is a it's a panicky anxiety that my desperate thing is like wishing to stop the clock
Starting point is 00:13:15 it's like please could everyone can I just Bernard's watch can I burn its watch this now please because I don't mind doing all the things but I haven't given myself enough time to do them and everything is I'm just always feel like I am
Starting point is 00:13:27 being dragged behind a raft and I just can't ever stand up on it like I'm never just like in control and it's never like... Well, this has gone from being like, I don't get the Sunday blues, so I'm really feeling it with you, and I feel quite nauseous hearing about it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 They're really viscerally happening to me there. But, yeah, what of 180 I've gone through here? No, but I think also, I understand that, because I would, the only reason I really feel like, oh, yes, no, I do get it. It's just because I thought it's Monday today, and I knew I was suggesting it today, and I was like, last night I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:57 oh, no, I am a bit like, oh, not that I don't want to do this or I don't want to do anything in the week. It's just like, oh, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do. I wish to not do exactly the same when you come back off holiday and even on holiday for two weeks. It could be a month. It could be a week. It could be whatever. That bit when you've got to like start your day, days up again as normal can feel really hard because you're just like, oh, cool. So it just keeps going now, does it? And I can until I book another holiday. And it's that. And then that's quite a depressing feeling. However, I think while there's no, I don't think there really is a way to actually. make you completely not care that the weekend is coming to an end and you will have to work again. Like, it's never going to go away because there is an end to it. However, there are ways that I think might be helpful, which are things like if you focus or have something definitely
Starting point is 00:14:52 in place for the week, so on the Wednesday or even, you know, something after work or something, even if you're going to give yourself an extra special breakfast on the Monday. Or you have to have something happening quite soon that you can focus on. So it's not about the Sunday. It's actually about what you're looking forward to because the Sunday blues aren't about the Sunday. It's actually about the week ahead. Look at the week ahead.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Really focus. Okay, so what are the things that you're really like, oh, not looking forward to? Can you change them? How can you make them better for yourself? And also things that you can always be in control of are things like, well, when I used to be in an office and I couldn't really afford to go out and have prayer or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:36 I would always, on a Monday, prayer or whatever, the cool thing. Whatever you were having. Prater sandwich. But I was, Pratt for me still is the absolute bastion of luxury because I could never afford to eat there. A woman once came in the office with this huge, I can say strawberry, huge strawberry.
Starting point is 00:15:57 that's nice tessa okay you carry on no she came in with a huge smoothie she was just so casually drinking it like like it was just an appendage to her it was just a thing that she happened to have I was like if I had that smoothie I would carry it on a velvet cushion and I was like to me I was like the thought of being someone who could buy a smoothie I mean you're literally you're literally looking at her
Starting point is 00:16:23 so on a Monday it was just a Monday I was on like 15 grand that was my salary a day a day um it was nothing um no i was on 15 grand so i could it was basically rent and then i have essentially 10 pounds for the month um but i and i would bring in um food every day or like if it was an event happening in the they called me the rat because if there was an event happening it wasn't it wouldn't wasn't even in our department i would be there to collect the sandwiches afterwards so that i could eat them and then eat too many and then feel all sick and not not do any work for the afternoon, then I was the rat toddler.
Starting point is 00:17:00 It was a, I had no dignity, really, but at the same time, I didn't have any money for lunch. So I would get free sandwiches from events and things like that. Or I would do the thing where, like, I think once I had like a week of rice with soy sauce on it, and that was my lunch. The thought on a Sunday of like, looking ahead to the week of rice with soy sauce, and there's nothing to break up your day and you're sort of angry was, I actually couldn't, do it. So what I did was every Monday I was allowed to go to Crush
Starting point is 00:17:31 which I think maybe is now defunct but we couldn't support it anymore. I couldn't support it on my 15 grand salary I couldn't support Crush anymore. We couldn't keep Crush afloat, sorry Crush. I would go but any smoothie or just anything that you like, if you don't like smoothies obviously don't. There's nothing as good as Crush. So good
Starting point is 00:17:47 and I would get myself a large elaborate smoothie and that was what I would get to be honest for lunch and then be hungry. But that was just because of I couldn't afford lunch. But if you're listening and you're like, I could afford lunch. Get yourself a, like, Monday work lunch should not be a working lunch. It should be a sacred time. A real treat. You don't think about the, you know, healthy eating plan you're on. You can have one.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You can do one fun. Or if you're, you know, you've eaten nothing but fried chicken all weekend, then look forward to having the most incredible salad. Go to one of them terrible places like tossed where it's like 50 quid for a salad. just you allow yourself one really even one I'm not finishing any sentences one really beautiful meal and often what we do is we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and Friday lunchtime is that time where you're like yeah but Friday lunchtime you're fine you've got the weekend ahead of you you just do that need no lunch you need it you need it on Monday you need that good stuff and that could be anything and it's not not just lunch that for me food I'm a very food based woman I mean like that that could be like if you're somebody who just
Starting point is 00:18:54 who like, I don't know, sometimes commutes, knows that they should commute on the horrible train, but this time you're going to treat yourself to the fancy train or a car journey or you're going to walk, or you're going to get the nice bus, or the bus with the scenic route, or you're going to, I don't know, start a new podcast. Basically, you have to look at the commute and the elements.
Starting point is 00:19:15 For me personally, it was always the commute and lunchtime that were the things I could change. And to be honest, I only started doing the Monday. I had a name for it. In my head it was like, make it better Monday. It wasn't that. Okay. Well, let's try and help the people a bit more.
Starting point is 00:19:32 A little bit. Magic. Magic Monday. Motivational Monday. Yeah. More Monday. Hard, isn't it? Because if it's the Sunday blues.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Make the most of Monday. Yeah. That sounds like we run a very NAF sort of mental health campaign. Please, it is NAF. It is NAF. But you've got to have it now because you've got to also. like you've got to... Okay, bitchon Monday.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Bitch in Monday. Okay, bitch and bundy. No, I'm trying to make it alliterative. That just sounds like Bond Day. But also as well, not just you lunch, like Monday evening, is there a way, is there a little thing? Obviously, it's so easy when you're, when you're saying things like this, you're like, yeah, and then you get to the Monday and you've got shit loads to do,
Starting point is 00:20:12 and it's actually incredibly stressful. So you can't, sorry, you want to light a candle, like, I can't do any of that stuff. But if there is a little thing you can do on Monday evening, if you can't have a nice lunch or you can't make your commute to, something basically you're all aiming for is something on Monday that you are looking forward to that you can focus on when you feel those Sunday blues that's all that that tip is could have been about a two second tip I've dragged it out for half an hour and I'm not going to apologize but I am humbled thank you I hope you are I sort of by accident have been doing that on last night
Starting point is 00:20:46 I was thinking around the corner from the podcast office is a fantastic pokey place and truly last night I was thinking I can't wait to get that pokey Yeah Then I was like And on the way home tomorrow I'm going to go get my nails done So I've recently discovered Shalak
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh yes you have And then final treat for myself Travis Perkins What's Travis Perkins It's a lumber yard I'm like I know that Dave I think I see it on a lorry
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah okay right Yeah it's a wood merchant Well look Like I say If you're going to get your food or you're motivated by, would, you know, whatever you're motivated by. You've got to, there's a lot of focus on these, like, how to beat the Sunday blues things, that all the focus is on the Sunday, poor Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, you're not, you're not having
Starting point is 00:21:33 the Sunday blues because you're like, I just hate it, I just hate Sunday evenings. That's not the issue. You're worried about the week ahead. And so it's so, obviously do whatever you would like on the Sunday, have the best Sunday ever, of course. And may I just sidebar us there for a second to be like, make sure you don't, stop doing the things to make sure you don't let Sunday become this all-consuming but Monday is coming thing be like sit with this I'm like what do I actually want to do and is it hiking or is it just going to the pub or is it you know what am I actually what are my dreams here and if they
Starting point is 00:22:04 are truly just to do laundry all day if that is truly your dream God bless you you know maybe that's your dream but like you have to make sure that you're not just doing thing because then you get to the end of Sunday you're like what was the yeah because you wake up feeling sad about Monday some people do yeah even on the morning you've got your treats Basically, what we're suggesting here is treats every day. Treats every day. But also what I find doing the sort of boring household tasks on Sunday, very helpful because by the time Monday comes down,
Starting point is 00:22:31 I'm like, yeah, I'll work because I don't want to fucking mop, you know? Sure. Mopping is so boring. Yeah, amen. That helps too. Look after yourself on the Sunday night, so you give yourself the best shot of waking up feeling sparky on a Monday. The other thing is I had a friend, well, I mean, I had a friend used to go out,
Starting point is 00:22:49 go out on the Friday and come back on the Monday morning and go straight to work because he was a party animal. But... And he was 21. And he was 21. But the concept as well of like being really like drunk on a Sunday night, it's only going to... It's going to make your Sunday blues worse. And like there's this like bottomless brunch. And like being day drunk on a Sunday.
Starting point is 00:23:09 All that stuff like is fine. Day drunk, fine. But look after your Sunday evenings and use them to like make yourself feel better and prep yourself for the week ahead. and I don't mean like prep. That sounds really boring. I mean things like, time to do fake town for the week. Have a great bath. Watch seven episodes of the show you've been watching.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Really, like do something really nice to round the week off. So you're not just sat there on your phone going like, huh, huh. I make sure that we are focusing on embracing and not distracting, you know, that we're like enjoy. Your new slogan. My new slogan, Steve. Do all the stuff that makes you feel good in your mind on a Sunday. And also as we go, as the dusk approach, good for your body.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And focus on the fact that it's not Sunday that's the problem. It's the fact that it's just, it's a normal thing. It doesn't mean that your life is wrong. No. There'll be other markers, I would say. If you're in the wrong job or you've got something going on in your life that you need to change, I don't think the only symptom will be Sunday blues. I think there'll be other symptoms going on.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I think I've come up with an acronym. I'm really excited here. It's about Sunday Blues is normal. Okay. Okay. So N stands for normal. Right? It's totally normal, so don't panic that you're the only person having them.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Everyone's having them. Oh, ooh, what's your job? Okay, I can really sense. I'll go, oh, it's ooh, something, but there's no reminder of what the noun is. Yeah, ooh, what's your job? Is it that I don't like my job? You know, probably not. And also a good way of telling is to if you ask yourself,
Starting point is 00:24:44 I can't with this on the way here, and it's not very clever. So I don't know why I forgot it. giving it too much of a buildup. Oh yeah. To figure out if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's,
Starting point is 00:24:54 or if there is a problem with your job, when you get to, to your job, are you, like, is it normally fine? Is it just,
Starting point is 00:25:01 is it the idea of it, is worse? Because often that's the thing, like, for ages, I was like that. I'd get the Sunday blues. But what,
Starting point is 00:25:08 when I was in the office and stuff was happening. Like, it was kind of fine. It was just the thought of it. Whereas then the moment it became, oh, now I'm here and I'm grumpy.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And everyone knows, can see how I'm really grumpy, I'm a big grumpy girl. Then it's like, okay, well, my job's wrong. And that wasn't just Sunday blues. That was Sunday blues. And then Grump, we're talking Monday through Wednesday. Excitement for the weekend, followed by grump. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I've definitely been in job when I was just like, even the thing I was talking about about going to this thing in Clapham, where I made my health physically sick the night before because of the thought of it all. Actually, my sad memories are being in the house, freezing cold, thinking about doing it. Whereas actually, when I don't have a single single, sad memory actually being there.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah. I think it was actually very funny and I had a funny, it was a chaotic, a mad experience, but my sad memories aren't there. Whereas like, I worked in a job where I just would openly weep at my task every day. There we go. You know, and you're like, okay, that's blues, blues, that's job blues. At one point, I said, my hair is the color of sadness. Just do yourself.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Does my, honestly, out loud. I was like, oh, God, it was horrendous. And so it is being like, oh, what's your job? You know, oh, come on. Like, do, let's be clear about. whether you really truly hate this thing or it's just like, oh, no one really likes going back to do stuff
Starting point is 00:26:24 for other people. Not when you're doing things to yourself. Absolutely. And talking of, what's our? R is for recreation or relaxed. Oh yeah, that's what you did you have enough of that on Sunday? Or too much.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You can have too much, I can definitely have too much recreation. And relaxing, actually. Yeah, but I get very bored doing things. I get tired and I'm like, now on a weekend, because I've spent the weekend, you know, on a climbing wall,
Starting point is 00:26:46 that's never happened. but safer did. Yeah. But what is actually more like is get tired after too much relaxing. Because you just, the more you recline, the more you're not fine, it's going to be in moderation. Okay. R is what, recline in moderation. We've now got phrases within the acronyms.
Starting point is 00:27:12 There's footnotes. M, of course, stands for. Mother. Call your mother. Call your mother. No, M stands for Monday. Oh yeah, focus on the Monday. Make you Monday night. Magic Monday. Yeah. What's your magic thing that you're going to do today? And I'm sorry that we've only got as far as magic, but we don't seem to be able to be... Motivational? Yeah, bitch and we just don't seem to be doing better. Do write in if you've got a suggestion.
Starting point is 00:27:33 We're on M.A. What's a pause now? Oh, yeah. For what? More tips will I ever think. Okay. Maybe the acronym is just norm. That's absolute. That's the norm, mate. Okay. Sunday blues, norm. That's just, that's really sad.
Starting point is 00:27:48 It is, yeah. A L, a lot. A could be And. And the commute. And the commute. Yeah, as in don't forget the commute. Because that's also important and that's often an issue with the Mondays.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's actually not the job. It's the commute. Oh, sure. Okay. And the commute. Or allow for. I don't know what. What for?
Starting point is 00:28:11 I'm setting you up. Oh, right. Well, I think and the commute is important. Is it very good. Okay. Because I think let's not, let's not forget. Let's be forget. I think we've smashed that.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I think so too. Charlotte, I hope that was helpful. I can't imagine it was. I do think if it's, if, there is any of the things that you can, what is in your control and can you change any of it? Like, can this commute be better? Can you rethink you're like working from home, you know, not schedule? And it's about making, make, have a little sit with yourself and be like, what in my mind
Starting point is 00:28:42 is actually just like, oh, work. And what is like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, this commute. oh, this thing, and what can actually done to we make it better? And is that just, we need to abandon ship on this job completely, or even this
Starting point is 00:28:53 whole industry completely, is this making me very sick with the stress of it all? Or the place you live, like very recently, my commute into town has changed quite a lot recently because when I moved, I moved to, like, a place just to happen to be a lot better. And that little change
Starting point is 00:29:09 was so massive. Obviously, you've bought a house and you're like, well, I obviously can't move. But if you're looking, like, things like that, I think we overlook a lot. And I would often used to like rent flats and stuff and not even think about the commute. I'd just be like, well, yeah, I'll get there. It's actually really important to think about that because that's every single day of your life.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So if you're, if that's something that you can change, basically, there are lots of things you can change that you don't think you can immediately. And they will have just incredible benefits. Yeah. Top bends. Absolute top bennie booze. Could you go on a bicycle some part of the journey? Tessa, you have. I certainly love my election.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I'd say you arrived. More stressed. Not more stressed. But thrilled. Much more damp. Yes. Damper. I look much more manic because I come in, wind swept, dripping in sweat because often the electric bicycles haven't got electric in them.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So I've just peddled an enormous, very heavy heft of metal. Aft of metal across the city. Yeah. It's not a fit for purpose. It's not for the purpose. And I've gone much, much lower than a person walking. Yeah. But when they do work, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Great. So I definitely arrive much more manic. But I do really enjoy them very much. I think that's the thing. It doesn't matter how you arrive. obviously with some jobs it does. This job it doesn't. It's about how, you know, how you feel about it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Like, there's a lot of things like, for example, I'd be like, oh, I couldn't possibly do a bike because I'd, I don't know, I'd be too stressed about it. Well, like, I haven't tried it. So I should try it because that would be a nice way of getting in and out. You might be thinking, what has this got to do with Sunday Blues? But it's all about upscaling. It's and the commute.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You forget that this is a huge part of it. And the commute. And unfortunately, now we've run out of time to talk about the less we forget. Hopefully that helps. If you have any more... Normal. If you have any more... Or Norma.
Starting point is 00:30:50 If you have any more episode suggestions, please do tweet us at Nobody PanicPod. We do get through them. Or email Nobody Panicpodcast at gmail.com. And yeah, come on. We can get through this. It's not about the Sunday. It's about the week.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So let's turbocharge our weeks. And follow them to normal acronym. Amen.

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