Nobody Panic - How to Deal With the News Without Crying

Episode Date: September 17, 2019

Keep freaking out because of the news? Stevie and Tessa look at ways to get through the day when everything appears to be on fire. And everyone is making memes about the fire on Twitter.Produced and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive Productions.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Follow Nobody Panic on Twitter @NobodyPanicPodSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.

True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true. Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Welcome to Nobody Panic. Tessa's got her braces out.

It's time to party. Welcome back. Yay, it's our first one in the stud. Oh, we're in a new studio. We've got ourselves a snazzy producer. We're feeling real fly, everyone. We're now produced by Placif. We have producer Ben. He has no microphone.

I don't think he wants one. He doesn't want to be involved. But he's great, so just imagine whoever you would like to imagine, Channing Tatum. He looks like, it's him. It's the whole of the Magic Mike. Yeah, cast. They're here producing for us.

I went to see Magic Mike Live. How was it? Absolutely insanely good. I did not expect to think it was good. Oh, I did. I knew it would be good. Great. Good for you.

One of my better skills is a very confident appraisal from poster, from poster work to finished article. To know, I see a poster and I can tell you immediately how good that's actually going to be. I wish I could test this out now, but it's a very visual medium. You can't. I can show you some posters. You'll never know. No, I honestly, I know. know something happening and then I'm just like I sense it in the air and I know whether it's

actually good or not. That's exceptional. And I knew my magic, magic mic, I knew Marjik Mike would be It was a good poster. It was a good poster. But I just knew I was like, it's the perfect Hendu, it's the perfect night out. It was. And it was my hand do. That's my adult thing. Oh, surprise. So today we're doing, that is a prank by the way. It's a prank. I'm not going marriage. So today we're doing how to not cry when you're watching the news. How to deal with the news without crying. How to deal with the news without crying. How to be totally overwhelmed by the state of the world? It's quite. overwhelming. Look, I'm going to level with you. These aren't live. We record these in advance.

So by the time you're listening, maybe the world's exploded and we're all you have left. Yeah, well, tell you. Possibly, could be. This is all there is left in the bunker. It would be a real surprise. No, it's September. It's the time of... Brexit. Yeah, everything just seems to be in total chaos. I actually meant it's September, so it's like new pens. Back to school. New pens, back to school. That's the news you should be focusing on. Yeah, it's a positive old time, but I feel like... Like the news has got a bit much. And I think it's a, well, we'll get in.

I've got some deep thoughts about it. She got some deep thoughts. I've got some sort of light thoughts. Okay, great. And some medium to heavy thoughts. Okay, great. Well, hopefully we'll find an unhappy balance. All the weights.

But before we do it, this has been like months now. What is the adult thing you've done, I guess, in the last three months? I know. I hope you've all had a lovely, lovely summer. I had one. And then I hinted at this one. And then Stevie said, I had to tell you about this. It sounds great because I want to know about it.

Well, it's nice having a break because I've got quite a few stored up. Good. Thanks. Mine is that, as many of you know, I have been going to see a personal trainer. So, just admiring this. Thank you so much. And we have really progressed from... Because of Tess's big leg.

If you haven't listened to the episode, Tessa's only got muscles in one of her legs and has no muscles in her entire stomach to accept where the personal trainer was like, Good Lord. So I lack a... I know everyone's like, I haven't got any core, but I actually... She have got some quite serious problems. So I've got no core, no real, like, no strength. Nothing's really holding me up.

I've been to see various people who've been like, good heavens. One of whom gave me an ultrasound, remember that? Yeah. And then she just laughed and laughed. She couldn't find a muscle. I said, do you always laugh this much? And she said, no, it's very unprofessional. I want to try and learn to run because one leg is doing this good, leading, excellent stride.

And one leg is, like, turned backwards and, like, dragging along the back. Your entire body's propped up by your one leg, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really pulling the weight of the group. Anyway, have been learning to sort of fix everything and realign myself and learn to get strong with this personal trainer. And something they say in personal training is like, for a long time, it's very, not boring, but it's very like, well, I'm seeing nothing.

I'm seeing no change. And then when it does happen, it's... Abs on your legs. Just have on your leg. And it's a very exciting moment of like, oh shit, it's actually doing something. But that moment, I thought that moment would be like two days in. And the moment is like, doom. months.

I'm just a very... So what's happened? Anyway, the point is, in the summer, it's hay baling season. Okay. Which is when... In the town. In the village. In the village, all the fields get bailed up for hay.

So they come out and they chop the long grass down. And then this all dries out and then somebody comes along and the machine and bales it into these big square hay bales. Okay. And then it would cost maybe... So my family pay for that. Can't wait see where this is going. But then it would cost them 20 pounds more for the...

people who chopped the hay to then stack it up for us and put it in the barn. But to save 20 pounds, my family, all of us, spend two whole days picking up all the hay bales, putting them on the back of the trailer and then like driving them around and then taking them off again. Fun. But I, even when I was no longer the youngest member of the family, was always relegated to driving the truck because I was so weak. Everyone kept saying I was letting them down and it was slower than if I just wasn't there at all. Okay.

A bit of a boost. Yeah, a real boost for me. This year, guess who could lift the bales and throw them onto the back of the truck? It was me! It was me! It was me! It was, honestly, my whole family were like in awe. Genuinely, people were like, wow.

I'm going to get an applause. Because my whole life I've been so, so weak, and now I can lift the stuff. And honestly, I felt like she woman. And that's such a modern thing, you know, you can now lift the hay. I can lift the hay. It's so useful. It's so useful. I told my personal trainer and she said, I don't think I'll use it on my website as a...

But I really understand the sentiment. Anyway, so that was my huge adult thing and it feels very exciting. Are you still saying the personal trainer? No. Because you've completed it. I got a board. No, I was going to say, you've completed it. You did what you came to do.

Yeah, yeah, I got through haybelling. No, now I'm back in London more permanently. I'll go back. Because there's not enough hay for you to lift. So why do you need a personal trainer? Exactly. Pointless. What was yours?

About an hour ago? I'm not going to mince my words. I bought a falafel sandwich for lunch. Didn't eat it. It's still there. I'm not going to eat it at the break. That's the first time I've ever managed to not eat my lunch that I've bought within five minutes. That's really well.

And now I'm saying it, it sounds even more impressive, I think. I deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. But I'm terrified. It's sat there in the corner of the room. I'm terrified it's going to be too dry and that I've built it up too much. Do you think it was dry? It looked dry when she put it in the box. And so I was like, I'm sure there's a lot.

And then the weight is neither here nor there. You are not responsible for the dryness. It was dry before. It was already dry, Stephen. Thank you so much. You're so welcome. It was already dry. At school, I would eat my lunch in the 15-minute break at half ten, every single day.

I bought lunch from the shop in the morning and eaten it on the way out of the shop. I think that's very normal. Yeah. I thought that's when lunch is. Anyone does it. Lunchtime is when you've bought lunch in the morning. That's what I'm when you've bought it. And then comes the fast.

And then at actual lunch time, you can buy another lunch. Yeah, that was the magic of lunch. That was a real... When I was living not with my parents and the first time I realized that if I wanted to second dinner I could just have one, that was a moment where I had to sit down.

It's huge, isn't it? And I was huge. And you do get big when you should have one. I can go to the 24-hour shop now and I can buy anything I want. Those animal-shaped biscuits with chocolate on them.

A two litres of phanta fruit twist for me. Thank you. That was my... I would never have thought to have drunk that, you know? I didn't drink the whole thing. No, no, just like I've never tried it. Honestly, you know how like a nice woman might on the way home stop in for a nice bottle of wine after a big day? A nice woman.

I would stop in for a two-liter bottle of phanta fruit twist. And then I would pour it into a wine glass. Okay. And then have one of my classic half baths. How old are we talking? Oh, like last year. Great. This winter.

Oh, yeah. Your half bath for anyone listening, you just know what Tesla's half baths is. Please explain. Oh, it's when you just take half your clothes off. You pop your tray. Hopefully you keep the top half on. It's top half on, bottom half off. We need the poo in it.

You winnie the poo in it. It's pop in the bath. It's when you're like, oh, I can't commit to a whole bath. I haven't got time. Guys, but I can get in half a bath. Or I'm too cold to take off the top half. Okay, great. Well, you sound like a woman who can give some advice to the people. Saddle up, everyone.

So, the news. The news. Do you have, like, specific types of news that upset you more than other types? Just broadly, I guess. I think what's happening at the moment is that we're going through, I think, I genuinely think, quite an unusual time in history where we're having this real, like, cognitive dissidents. Well, no, it's not unusual. Oh, that's a shame.

I was going to be like that. That was a great word. Stick with that. Stick to it. Well, no, no, I stopped myself about my, it's not an unusual time in history. Basically, once I found in my great aunt's cupboard, a newspaper from 100 years ago, that was just lining a shelf. But I read the newspaper, not a lot on that day, so.

No, fine. But it was so much, like, Kay. country on the brink of war. Yes. There's no food. What will the people do? Housing shortage. You know, the stuff was pretty much the same.

I think there was that nuclear thing in the 50s where everyone was like, I guess we'll just die from a nuclear explosion. Me saying to my dad, you know, we can't have children because of climate change. He was like, well, my generation were like, you can't have children because everyone all die in a nuclear war. Yeah. So like there's never been a time and everyone's like, guys, we're absolutely smashing it. This is a good old time. Anyway, but I do think the cognitive dissidence point is like you've got the, the president who is, you know, genuinely mentally ill and says these insane.

Or not, I don't know if we can say that. I'm gonna. Okay, great. He's mad. He's absolutely mad. And I think we have to admit it. I'm pro-Trump and Tess is against Trump. Yeah, sorry, sorry, we should make that clear.

Steve's part of the NRA. I'm trying to keep it out. I can't be part because I'm not American, but I'd love to get involved. I'm not. The worst kind of supports it. Can't even do anything. Love to get involved, though. Love would like to go across that.

Yeah, the man is mentally unstable. Yes, perhaps. And you just see the stuff that this man is tweeting. And you just have to put your phone down and sort of pretend it's not happening because it's so insane. You just can't believe that in the wake of these horrifying shootings and terrible things happening and all this climate disaster that the man is tweeting about like the failed ratings of Deborah Messing who played Grace on Will & Grace. Like that's who the president is tweeting. Sure. It's just so mind-blown that you have sort of just mentally step out and just be like, okay, I literally can't engage.

And so I think everything just feels very, very overwhelming. I think part of it is we literally don't know what to do. Well, it's almost like all the stuff has been happening for the dawn of time. There's been like bad stuff like you're saying. Yes. But you said it much more articulately than that. But we now know it all. Whereas in the past, you know, you had your newspapers,

you had news sources that were like regulated. And then you would go and you would chat to your mates and you chat to your family. Or you wouldn't because it was the Victorian times and no one talked. But they had the mistress perhaps. But you would at least have like places to go and talk. and you would be in your own little mini echo chamber. Sure. Whereas now it is everywhere.

I feel like I'm constantly trying to escape what's happening. And then there's also that whole movement, which I think is very valid, which is like you said, again, another very valid point. Sometimes you have to step away, and I think that is very important. But we are quite privileged that we're able to step away. Some people literally can't because it's ruining their lives.

And then this whole thing about, like, well, good for you. And then, oh, now I feel bad for stepping away. It becomes this big spiral. And you're like, I was the last shooting. that happened in Texas, hopefully by the time this goes out that hasn't been another one, but I mean, God, who knows. I was like, you know what, I'm going to engage in this,

I'm going to watch the stuff, and then I was a mess, and then the shadow said to me. Why did you engage? Like, why did you watch that? And I was like, well, I think it's important to know. And it's like, but what can you do about that? There are certain things that I look at that I can do stuff about, I don't do anything about that either.

Sure. I think the shootings, especially, because we're in a different country, unless it is your own country, and there are minimal things you can physically do. You don't have to consume all of that news as a form of self-punishment. You don't have to watch it and be like,

this is horrendous. Imagine if you were going through this or you with a family is affected. It feels like this weird sort of, I'm doing some way some kind of service to them if I fully engage with this. And I have absolutely done that in the past. And I've been like, it's achieved nothing.

Like I have not helped. They are not in any way supported or helped by knowing that someone around across the world really watch the news about it. They don't suddenly feel it. It's like, tessacote. It does feel that thing of like, oh, you can turn away, you can turn off the news. You don't have to know about this. But it's like, but does it help in any way to be as informed about this

as you possibly can be? Like, no, it doesn't help them. You can't bring them back. You literally cannot help those families unless you actively go and engage and protest over there if you want to, great. Do something. But you feel. physically just watching the news is not going to help. No. Literally anybody. No.

I know that there are certain things that you can do. For example, like, if you look at things like the shootings, we can't really do anything. Unless, okay, do you want to go to America in protest? Well, I'm not going to do that, so no. But there are certain things that maybe I could do that would help me, for example, I'm like recycling and climate-based environment stuff. No plastic in the bathroom. The climate stuff is my trigger point.

Like, I can't read anything about it. It's terrifying. But I find sort of solace in doing certain things that I'm like, well, that at least helps. Like that at least helps. But then I have to like pull back sometimes because I'm like, well, you know, I can't go to that protest. And I feel stupid that I'm not actually doing anything. Like, no, you are doing stuff. And I think there's like a balance, basically, what I'm saying, is between completely shutting off and then doing little things that can make both you and people around you and also help the problem a little bit.

But there are some things in the news, yeah, that you just can't, you can't stop Trump tweeting stuff. You can't, we can't do anything about Brexit at all apparently. So, you know. Yes. But you can sign the petition when you see it rather than being like, well, what's the point? Do have a sign. Why not? Do speak out about it.

Like a friend Nish Kumar, who's a comedian, you know, he's very anti-Brexit. And he makes people laugh and he makes people engage more than they would have done already and galvanises people. And that's his way of doing his bit. And I think there are ways that you can do your bit without your mental health suffering. Mm-hmm. If the state of gun control in America is one of the things that you personally are finding is your bit that you just can't engage with any further. Every town, the charity, is the main lobbyist for total gun control.

And you can always support and donate to them. They're fantastic. And becoming aware of which senators and things, like Kamala Harris, for example and Elizabeth Warren are both, like, putting, like, total banning of all assault rifles is really high on their agenda. And so just being, like, aware of the politics aspect of it. And if money is something that you have even a small amount at your disposal and you would like to sort of in any way help, then there are like various charities and like things doing stuff. Yeah.

That I think your money will do infinitely more good than like your time. And you, in this country, like you just watching the news and making yourself hysterical about the sheer, like, horrifying trauma of the world. And then eating like 17 biopots. Yeah. What's a biopopopop? Little yogurt. Oh, lovely.

Yeah. Just a little yum, yum. So I just ate 17 yoghuts because I've got to. control? Yeah, because it is. And also, I think, accepting the sheer, like, level of horror that is out there at the moment and not sort of dismissing that or being like, oh, why am I being so silly? Like, why am I eating so much yogurt? Yeah, I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot. Oh, I can't. I can't deal with the yoghers I've eaten. Oh, what a silly old girl having so much yoga? It's like, there's some really, really, genuinely very bad stuff happening. And it is okay

for you to feel, eat the yogurt, to eat the yogurt or to feel sad or to need to step away. And I truly believe, like, get off Twitter. I'm trying to like, find kind of points in here, but I think one of them being, know how much control you have and what you can do and what you can't do and look at how you can use that cleverly for your mental health. But then the other thing, yeah, is obviously social media is terrible. So I've found, weirdly, it's basically all the stuff that you like on Twitter comes up on my feed now. And so it's all like fun stuff. And so I, then I like it. And then my algorithm has basically switched so that if I just look at my timeline, it's just all like cool Brooklyn comedians making funny jokes about life.

or like dogs or whatever. It means that Twitter's fine. Unless I go outside of Twitter. Even if you were out into the world. No, as in like outside of the timeline. Then you start looking at other things. What are you doing outside of the time? How do you even get there?

On the, your Twitter moments and you look at all the headlines. Oh, I never go there. I wouldn't dream of it. I'm constantly there. What are you doing there? Look at the news. What are you doing there? I'm doing this podcast.

Oh my God. Obviously, well, number one, get out of there. Well, sometimes there's like some fun stuff about like there's a ha-ha category. and I like that, which is the funny category. It's a parent that I was... It's a ha-ha and there's also a bomb category. Bombs going off or something. Oh my God.

It's a parent and I don't obviously know how Twitter works. I never go outside the timeline. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. But also, I think that's good. That's a good thing. So your time minds will be lovely. No, that's the thing. Terrible.

Even though it is a carefully curated and largely only full of dogs. Dogs. But dogs retweets it. Sometimes the dogs have got some opinions. You know, like that's the thing. Like, even if you only follow comedians and you only follow animal accounts and all of this, you know, like this morning I went on it and everybody's talking about Boris Johnson, even the funniest accounts, even the, literally even like thoughts of dog, it's like got a thought

about Boris Johnson. So therefore it's everywhere. People can't, we can't escape it. You can't escape it. But maybe rather than just getting off to it completely, because that can be, that's useful. If you can, great. Because if you're like just on it for a bit and you're like, I don't really know why I'm on this and you're just getting sad, absolutely.

But some people get something out of it and need, but I read quite a lot. about how important it is to maybe regulate the news intake and regulate your social media intake, obviously, which I think we do talk about a lot, but I think it's important. So, for example, like, none on weekends, and past, like, 5pm, don't look at it. Like, that sort of thing, because no one's going to need you for anything in the evening on Twitter.

Like, no one's... A tweet that you get at, like, 7pm at any night, you can just reply to it at 9-end-in-a-minute next morning. I'm not here. I'm not on Twitter for... For the people. I mean, please do engage with me if you'd like. But you can say that you're not on Twitter for the people. Yeah.

As in like, I mean, I was going to say to the people, if you'd like to engage with me, please do. My response rate will be very slow. It is, but you also, you throw out some hot content. Thank you. I do. I'm on it to see what funny things a pig has done today. Yeah, okay. So therefore, if I'm not using it for news, and yet the news is just getting to me while I'm just trying to look at my pigs, you know.

Scroll free. Do that scroll-free September thing that people are doing? Nothing? Nothing. You go on, you do a tweet, and then you leave. What's the fuck's the point of that? That's for people, sorry. I should just mention that.

That's for people who are on Twitter for the people. Right, okay. I'm a voyeur. I'm at this orgy just to watch. Wait, that means that you are scrolling. Yeah, exactly. So actually scroll free September is for me. I should do it, yeah.

But you're saying if the people needed my stuff. Okay, right. I see what's got you there because I said go on tweet and then don't scroll. So what if I said, yeah, so then obviously don't go on. That's great for you. Whereas I do tweet and retweet stuff. And so, for example, when the podcast comes out, I like to tweet about the podcast every week to get people listening or doing a show.

You're right, so maybe I will just go on. And what about your hot content that you throw out? Your good tweets. Not good tweets, they're only ever. Oh, thank you. So funny. Thank you. Tess is crying.

Okay, I'll go on. I'll just say, here's the podcast, then I'll leave again. Okay, put the link as well. That's it, I'll just say, I have to go now. And then I'll go, and then I'll leave. Yeah, I'm going to do scroll free. I'm going to get out of there. Great.

This is really 360 after, what's the point of that? Absolutely, I'm doing it. I'm just signing up. I'm just signing up. But no, do it. Get back in. Google it. Incidentally, if you need it for your work,

there are apps that allow you to post to Instagram. Even see your likes and engagement on that post. If you need to do it for your work or for whatever thing, but not allow you to go on Instagram. Because Instagram is less news for me. Instagram is just more like everyone's got abs on their legs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just don't want to see it.

Oh, everyone's having a lovely time in Greece. I can see. Everyone's got friends, have they? A lot of friends in Greece. again this week. Everyone's in Greece. Everyone's in Greece. And also it's like, when did you organise that? Yeah. Who was the one that was like, guys, we go to Greece? Who instigated that? You've all got your passports and you're all there on time. You've gone to Luton for 1pm. How have you done that? How have you done that? Who decided it? How have you got

that many friends for, I can't stand it? But I, it's revolutionized my genuine. That is the biggest thing that I've done properly this year, which is it's only hashtag duck life, hashtag tortoises, hashtag dogs being basic and memes. And that is, my entire Instagram. Occasionally a person will, like, come through. And I'll be like, mute. I don't want to see any people. I go on my friend's Instagram

to see what they're up to if I want to see what they're up to. So you don't follow anyone on Instagram? I do. I follow everybody. I've muted every human being. Everyone's muted. And it's not a personal thing. If you're listening, being like,

Babe, why? Sorry, Mom. I haven't muted, mom. She doesn't really post. So can you see their stories and stuff at the top? No. Oh. Unless I go on their profile and then I look at their story.

So I do that quite a lot with, like, close friends. I'm like, what's Claudia up to? What's Tesla up to us? I'm sorry, I'd put your second there. What's my sister up to? But everybody is gone. So it's just like a fun, which sounds like what your Twitter is. Yes. My Twitter is becoming to be like, although unfortunately I do know how to go on the moments

and I do look at the news sometimes. So I need to do a scroll-free thing, or I need to just not look at the news headlines. Basically, you have to curate your own social media feed, however will be most, I was going to say detrimental, the opposite of detrimental. Good for you. Because I sometimes get upset about how much John Ledger loves Chrissy Teagan. Oh my God, it's great.

I was sad? Yeah. Oh, God, okay. I thought it was beautiful. Yeah, it is, but it's more like... Too much. I want that. I want John Legend to love me.

Yes, in a way, we all want John Legend to love us, don't we? So that's my issue. And they're so fun. Point is get off Twitter. Oh, yeah. Get off Twitter or if you can't really regulate it. I think we... I personally piece the news together backwards from what people are making jokes about on Twitter.

Yeah, I'll see a meme and then I'll be like, right. Well, what does that? Yeah, and you have to go back and back and back. The 30 to 50 Ferrell Hog. Oh, that was an absolute disaster. I know what was going on. I could not find for the life of me the source material. I did not know what we were working with, but as part of me was still like, shall I just get involved?

I guess I'll do one about it. I think I can get, I've got some stuff on the feral hogs. And to be honest, you actually probably could have done one not knowing. It was just put 30 to 50 feral hogs. Anywhere into anything? Or there was a specific time frame. Within two to three minutes while your children are playing in the yard. But we still don't really understand who said it or how the 35 to 50 feral hogs got there.

My favorite one was, My milkshake brings on my three-shod for feral hogs. And they're like, the children are playing for three to three minutes. Yeah, brilliant. You can't, but I could not find what we were all working from. No. And that is the news to me. People just, like, making these good jokes,

me having to, like, piece them back towards, be like, okay, what was the news? Yeah. What's happened now? And then you finally find, like, a Guardian article that explains exactly what is happening. I think the constant thing that everyone says that all the stuff that I've been reading is been like, it's okay to switch off. So if you're having that issue of like, well, you know, I should be engaged.

I should be engaged. Because we have this, what a privilege to say, oh, I don't like the news. And it is a privilege, but, you know, good for you. If you're having panic attacks because you're reading the news, stop it. Like you don't, yeah, don't force yourself to be in hysterics. It's not fair. Every time you did something, you broke your arm.

You'd stop doing it. And no one's going to be like, actually, you should just keep doing that because that's actually really. You'd be like, no, it's fine. So, you know, stop. And also, as well, talk to your friends about stuff. Like, rather than just keeping it all to yourself and being like, the news is awful, talk to your friends about how terrible the news is.

Like, everyone will have their own opinions. And then that is also what we used to do with the news. We would, like, see how other people felt about it. And also it equalizes stuff. I remember getting really upset about climate change, sure. And my sister's friend was telling me all about the good stuff that people were doing. And she was doing some, like, planting tree stuff and beach cleaning. And I just like, it was like having a full brain bath.

I was like, oh, good. Yes. To get it out loud, like say to another person. I'm struggling. And they'll say, oh, with which bit of this? All of it. Of the hellscape. Help.

And then you'll say, well, particularly this. And they'll be like, oh, me too. Yeah. Right. Do you have any more hot tips? I've just got some positives. Yes, please. Some positive things that are happening.

The population of wild tigers in Nepal was found to have nearly doubled in the last nine years, thanks to conservation efforts. Deforestation, Indonesia fell by 60% as a result of a ban on clearing peatlands. I don't know what peatland is. No, me neither, but it's been cleared. A field of men called Peter? The United Nations said the ozone layer

would be fully healed over the Arctic and the northern hemisphere by 2030. Okay. $10 billion has been sent to Bali this year for the protection of 14 million square kilometers of the world's oceans. Look, people are doing nice things. People are doing good things.

There is good, like, happy positive news. In California, the world's smallest fox. Sure, I'm here for it. Was removed from the endangered species list. He had to go. Come on, you've got to get out of here. I think that's quite sad. I'd like to go to list.

You're too small. It's the fastest recovery of any mammal on the endangered species to act. He's endangered, but I love it. No, no, no, he's off the list now. He said undangered. Oh, right. That's quite, it should be undangered. Proper scientists and good people, people that know.

People are doing stuff. Well, that actually leads on to another thing, which is to look at where you're getting your new. news from. Sorry, could we stay on the smallest fox? Yeah, so how big was the fox? I don't know. Great.

Anyway, sorry, go on. No, it's absolutely fine. Yeah, like to look at where you get your news from. And I think it's actually very difficult to, because it used to be, I'd say, and I don't want to sound like an old man in a pub in the BBC. Used to be non-biased. But no, it's biased. Oh, yes, yes, yes. A lot of that going on.

I find the BBC news to be very helpful. I'm left leaning. Sure. But I also find it to be helpful because it doesn't, it's not emotional. So it'll be like, this has happened. These are the facts, rather than sometimes the Guardian, we'll be like quite a lot. And because the whole point of these news sites is to collate as much dynamic news as possible. So you've got videos, you've got really terrifying images, you feel like you're there.

Then you've got a think piece. And you're like, I agree. Marina Hyde, I agree. There's a lot to think about. Whereas the BBC just sets out the news. If you want to have a daily news briefing and think of yourself as the president, but not the current president, unless you're pro him like me,

and then always the current president, then you can just, 10 minutes, you look through the BBC news site, but there are also, like, social media feeds that you can follow that are good news. If you're on Instagram, there's a thing called Tank's Good News,

and it's a guy who makes memes called Tank Sinatra, but he also does another page called Tank's Good News, and it's just three times a day he posts, like, a lovely, heart-woming thing that has happened. I don't know if his name is actually Tank. It's probably like Alan or something. He's like,

I'll call myself a tank, probably. He looks, he's massive. He works out. Maybe that's why. I've just, yeah. There we go. That is close. It's good to have a friend, isn't it?

It's good to have a friend. Say your ideas out loud and just to take it. Talk to your friends. You can't pick your way through the news. I think it's really, it's really hard. And I wanted to sort of bring this point up and then be like, so here are some non-bious news sites in the UK. There aren't really any that I can find. But what there are, there are things like the good news network, which you can go.

on and it's like world news that's like positive. Also just I'd say just try and find some yourself. Tank Sinatra. Yeah, tanks and Archa. Also like if you are like left leaning and you don't want to read, I know, the Daily Stormer, don't read it. Like you can just look at the news that you're consuming because you more often than not will see that you're actually consuming something quite biased or a bit too much or you know if images and videos really upset you then just don't go on those new sites that provide those. I mean it's not particularly rocket science but I didn't realize that how much the Guardian, I like reading The Guardian,

but how much it was affecting me in terms of the photos and the images, especially of climate change, because they really went hard on it. And I was like, great, go harder, but I can't see it. And I didn't know why I was crying all the time. But I look at the Good News Network, like, well, I can remember.

Probably once over two weeks. I think it's done its job, which is like we're all extremely aware of the problem, and now it's like I... Some people still aren't, but they're not reading the Guardian, that's the problem. Sorry, that's a completely separate point. But I can keep going.

Are they not? More Americans than not believe climate change is a hoax, genuinely. I'm so sorry. We can't end the podcast on this. We end the podcast on a sign. And it's that level of like deep sigh that's just like, oh, it's not just like things are bad, it's like, oh God, like, what do you want me to do now?

And then part of me wants to let's like make a documentary where I go around America just chatting to people. Let me through. Oh, it's been done. Oh, it's been done. What a shame. It's a shame. Well, there's a guy.

I'm in Florida announcing that. Why doesn't the Navy sail out to Hurricane Dorian? Okay. And sail in an opposite direction to the water flow to stop it. And then the Air Force spin the opposite direction to the hurricane around and around the hurricane. And that's a grown man who I assume has a job. Yeah. So he goes to work every day, presumably relatively competent at his job, perhaps even he excels in his field.

We hope. And he thinks the Air Force should fly around and around the hurricane. I think making films like Apocalypse, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, gosh, I'm Bruce and Willis and I'm gone up to Far, Armageddon. I've gone to blow up a meteor. Yeah. I think things like that where we're just like, here we go, America, we're going to just blow the meteor off course. Final point.

Don't make disaster movies like Armageddon, any film directors, any studio is saying. Because we do just get this idea of like, I think playing fast and loose with science in the 90s in adventure movies has genuinely caused this problem. Today's hot take. I'll be tweeting that out, but then leaving. More good news. Columbia officially expanded 4.3 million hectares of the rainforest, the largest protected tropical rainforest in the world, an area called the Cosmic Village of the Jaguars.

Oh, lovely. Hello. That's fun. That's it. Oh, great. No, that's nice. That's it. What a cool area.

Mountain gorillas are on the rise. Oh, my God. A lot of happy animal facts going on. Yeah, yeah. People were like, oh shit, we fucked it. And then they're like, we try on our best. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we did fuck it in the beginning.

Is the Amazon's on fire? Oh, yes, very much so. Well, look, hopefully by the time that you're listening to it's not on fire, if it is, listen to those good animal facts, you can donate as well. It can donate to things. I think we, I mean, obviously, our points have become incredibly inarticular now, but do what you can. Put your money, to help yourself.

Go put some money somewhere. Donate. If you don't have money, that's absolutely fine. Look after yourself first because you can't, you know, you know a good to. anyone if you're crying on the floor. You can't even do your own job. We all need to fund capitalism. That's my last point.

Look at where you're getting your news from. If you are very emotional, like me maybe, try and get your news in as kind of a neutral as way as possible. Limit your social media. All get off it. Be aware of that sentiment. Give me the strength to know what I, what? A quote's coming.

Here it comes. Give me the strength to change what I can change. I love this. She's lost confidence. Power to ignore what I cannot change. Lovely. And the wisdom to know the difference. That's amazing.

Who said that? Me? Just now. Wow. I think it was Deuteronomy. Oh, sure. I don't know where it's fun. I saw it on T-Tal once.

But the point is there, like, if you can change it, change it. If you can't, know that there's nothing you can do and step back and have the wisdom to know the difference. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Very, very good. And don't beat yourself up if you are. sad. You're not stupid for feeling sad about the news. It sounds mad when you say it, but no one will go, what? Why? There's no news. Everyone will completely understand. There's a difference between

like, oh, I just don't listen to the news. Boring. I'm being like, sorry, I was having a small breakdown. The more I watched the news, so I've had to step back from it. But please tell me whatever it is you'd like to tell me about, I'm sure I will have some purchase on whatever news story you want to discuss with me. Cue another breakdown. But you tried. As you're telling me, I'm just having the breakdown again. Yes. It's hard. We're very happy to be back. But please do if you like the podcast and you, you're happy that we're back as well. Spread the word, because I think a lot of people won't be getting the downloads now because we've gone for a bit.

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And I... Don't go on the emails. I don't like to engage. No, I sent back one to a man called Ben about 18 pages. I sort of like, yeah. It's like, I'd say spread your priorities. Yeah, I was like, I don't think I should engage. You wrote a book to a man.

called Ben and that's the only response you've never given anyone on emails. Yeah, no, I do, I do know that. Saw that, was like, well, that's good. She's popped in. Pobbed. But yes, next week, obviously, we're back. And we'll be back probably forever until we're both dead. So, good Lord, no.

Yay. No. Death. No. And that's the end. Oh, God. Bye. Bye.