Nobody Panic - How to do a Home Workout

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

Want to move a bit? Hate the idea of doing it at home? Stevie and Tessa can’t tell you how to do the perfect press up (Stevie has no arm strength and Tessa arguably has no stomach muscles) but they ...can get you into the zone PSYCHOLOGICALLY. Practical tips on how to start, keep going and not get bothered by the dishes rattling in the cupboard every time you jump up and down. Good lockdown home workout resources (thanks everyone who messaged us!)On Instagram:@patrickmojoPT - Runs Zoom HIIT classes/has free YouTube HIIT classes. Stevie does this. @SitdownAJ - IG live dance workouts that are so easy to follow and fun! @curveswithmoves - IG live yoga classes! @moveyourframe - all different types of online classes @psyclelondon - IG live workouts all on their IGTV channel @womenshealthmag - all kings of daily IG live workouts to choose from Elsewhere:Nike Run Club - app for guided runs and all things jogging. Tessa does this. PopSugarFitness - website with great resources, home workouts, form advice etc (warning: bit of focus on weight loss sometimes but overall about getting stronger) Dianne Buswell on YouTube - dance workouts with Joe Sugg Madfit on YouTube - Full body workouts, low impact, no equipment needed! Recorded and edited by Naomi Parnell for Plosive Productions.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Follow Nobody Panic on Twitter @NobodyPanicPodSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.
Starting point is 00:00:17 True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true, Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Hi everybody. Welcome to Nobody Panic. This episode is going to be about how to do a home workout. And then this Thursday, me and Stevie are doing a guided run. So if you would like to join us for that, we would love to have you. It's basically like, you can just like listen to it while you're on a run, right? We're not running. We won't be running. You will be running. It's going to be 20 minutes. Yeah. Really? You sold it really badly, Stevie. No, I'm absolutely frothing at the mouth to listen. Okay, thanks. Okay, here comes the episode. Martin and meet us a coach.
Starting point is 00:01:16 We're here to help you. We're here to help you through the time of your life. That's very good. I just thought then, you know how sitcoms do like, they'll have like a bottleneck episode or like Buffy do, like a musical episode? Absolutely. If we just did one where like we're just singing the whole time, I don't think it would work as well.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I think people would be excited. I think people would be into it. I was just, I was immediately panic-stricken, though, because I can't sing. So I was like, oh, yes, Stevie, well done. That's singing. That's singing. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Welcome to this episode all about how to sing. I would listen to one that taught us how to sing. But this episode is not about that. This episode is How to Do a Home Workout, which initially made, like, Tessa was like, oh, God, should we do this? And I was like, oh, I don't know. But I think it's a really good one, because if you're not into it and you're not into fitness, you can stay for the great gags and the top crack.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And if you are, then get some great tips. But I think we aren't physical exercise gurus, as in like we don't know. So it won't be like, so first do seven lunges, then a run. Like, it's more like how to psychologically and practically make your home workouts work for you. If you fancy doing one every week or one every month or just one or never, there's no pressure to do it. It's just for people who are into it. Oh, we're certainly not pressurizing you to do it. If your commute, I mean, if your exercise today was to walk from the fridge to the back to bed,
Starting point is 00:02:51 well, then well done. Not to home workout. Yes, I messaged it, Stevie, this suggestion. And I said, I've actually bored myself midway through the message to you. Because I'm so, I don't want to do it. It's going to be a great episode. But I think it's going to be a good episode. So I think it is key.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And I think when you try and sort of dip your fit in, dip your fit into exercising, you, like, I follow this girl on Instagram. It's an active hate follow. And I put my hands up. That's exactly what it is. I follow her as a hater. She tells us all about her like extreme exercise regime. And then she said like, I love breakfast.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It's my favorite meal of the day. And I was like, oh, me too, would you believe? And then she was like, here's my breakfast. And it was like, as you can imagine, it was like three cheer seeds and a blueberry. And she's like, I take breakfast really seriously. I was like, I thought you're going to make us a full English or something. So I was very, it's really, and it's so off-putting the whole world of it. So this is a gateway drug.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'd say like even before we're doing an adult thing, you know my thoughts about following people that make you feel bad? I think you get absolutely get rid of her and only follow people that make you go like, yay, because then you're more likely to exercise when you're not looking at other people exercising. You're so right. You're so right. I should just get rid of her. I know I should.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But I don't know. It keeps me alive. The hate really fuels the fire. And you know what? whatever works for you in these unprecedented times. If you need a hateful, do it. I'm going into it. I will say I bought, once Tesco
Starting point is 00:04:20 listened to the Inception soundtrack when I was in Tesco, so it felt because it's so weird and everyone's a mask, it just felt like, very exciting, and thought, oh, I'll make, I'll do one of those things because I'm eating very, very, very, very poorly. I was like, what if I get scurvy?
Starting point is 00:04:36 So I thought, well, every breakfast, I could try and like put in all my days, worth of like good things that I can just continue to eat just bread and then you've got it over with and so I was like well start with well there's small sort of pouches that are still like about 70 pounds they're like three pounds and just see how how you get on bought it put it in the thing opened it tried it once and was like it just feels like it just makes all the food gritty and then and then it obviously had gone over in the cupboard now my entire cupboard is absolutely again this has happened one before when I bought a bag of cheer seeds didn't eat them and the same thing happened, just littered with cheers seeds. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice. That's a cheer seed.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's a great t-shirt slogan, which is not doing much. Yeah, anyway, so I think exercise has a terrible, it has got a bad rep. It got nicely commodified by a very intense community who make you feel very inadequate. And when the videos and everything are being done by, you know, what look like Amazonians, it's very hard to be like, oh yeah, this is... This is for me. This is for me. Equally at the polar opposite end, I remember...
Starting point is 00:05:48 There's a woman once came to our school to teach... It wasn't Zumba, but it was similar. And she was... Well, she was so out of breath that you... It was very hard to take her seriously as a teacher because you were like, I don't think it's working, you know? We were like, why should we do this class? So it's a sort of...
Starting point is 00:06:10 It's between a rock and a hard place with exercise videos, because, you know, if it looks like it's really working, you don't want to do it. And if it looks like it's not working, you're like, well, what's the point? Absolutely. There's a very, also I think what is nice about it was a good thing that I didn't really realize to have very recently is that probably most of the home workout things that you like see on Instagram Live or you can do on a VHS tape, you know, most of them probably aren't for you, but you just got to find the one that is.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Whereas I've been like, well, I can't do that, so I can't do any of them because that's what exercise is, whereas there's lots of different types and it's lots of like different stages and there's lots of like you know like for example there's some fun ones where you just sort of dance along with a with a quite nice man for a bit and then there's ones where you're doing like hardcore so it's like it's all kind of yeah it's all good stuff i think i've got a good point on that and i'm going to save it till after the adult things oh my god imagine that and stevie what's my adult thing this week right so i have kept i don't know if i've said it maybe i've said it and then you're going to be like you actually talked about it every five
Starting point is 00:07:10 minutes but in my head I haven't really said that said it that much because I'm really proud to myself but I also am aware that it might sound really smug so I have now I'm a week six of having exercise I've done a home workout every single day holy shit every day and I feel like so like sorry for saying because I feel like I don't recognize who this woman is like I don't know she is but what I do know is it I know I do know her she's the she's the woman that six weeks ago that was when her work dried up. So then she's just in a house. So that's what's happened. I mean, to be honest, I eat the amount of, I've, like, up to the amount of, like, shit I'm eating. I just eat human shit all day. And who doesn't? Who doesn't in these unprecedented times? Unprecedented times.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So it's not, I wasn't really doing it for, like, you know, weight loss or any of those things. I was literally doing it just because I was like, well, that will give me structure and, like, I think, and also, like, if I can come out of it being like, I've actually worked out, then that will be at least one tiny thing I can say, because I'm not doing anything else. I'm not like writing anything good. I'm not like, I'm very much not doing anything. And so I felt like,
Starting point is 00:08:16 and that has been very, very helpful. And I do feel like that is an adult thing because a child can't work out. That's extremely grown up with you, Stevie. I'm very impressed. I'm very impressed. I don't have any abs still. That's an absolute disaster.
Starting point is 00:08:31 But I just said, you need to not focus on that. No, no, no. The point is that you did it. The point is that you did it. Mine is similarly exercising. based. Mine is that I, well, I'd read this very interesting article about the perception of time. And if I may, I might tell you some things.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Classic workout fodder. You know how we're all like, oh gosh, March lasted 105 years. And we kept being like, is it still March? This is unbelievable. And then April appears to have just gone while we were asleep. And now May. Extraordinary. just listing the order of the month and if I'm led to be believed June is next um no I am so then I read
Starting point is 00:09:17 this amazing article that was like why do we feel like that and it's because when you when new things are happening to you you literally are experiencing time slower so that's how like when you were a child summer was like it felt like the longest thing in the world like everything you did as a kid you know every time you went in a new year group every time you got a new year pencil case. It's got to learn a new thing in science. It felt so incredibly slow because you were doing a new thing every single day. And so your brain slows down time while it processes the new thing. And then when you do, then it feels like, my God, this year has just gone by. It's because when you're in a routine and you do the same thing every day, your brain is experiencing time
Starting point is 00:09:54 at a faster rate. And so, which is how like when you go on holiday, you might be like, oh my God, it's Wednesday. Doesn't it feel like we've been here 100 years? And then at work, you might be like, holy shit, it's Wednesday. I don't even remember Monday and Tuesday happening, you know, because you're doing new, new stuff. And so the article was recommending do, make sure you do something new every day. I go to a totally new place, like even if it's just a few meters outside your house, whatever. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I thought the other side of my neighbor's door. Just look at, look, I'll see or try and do something new every single day. Anyway, my new thing was I got one of those Zoom bikes. oh no wait sorry I'm so obsessed with Zoom jump bikes what's a jump bike they're owned by Uber
Starting point is 00:10:39 and they are these red bikes that are in London I'm sorry I don't know if they're in every city and they are electric bikes so they go faster than the average bike I guess and you just open them with the app
Starting point is 00:10:51 and then you pay 12 pence a minute and off you go and I cycle to Buckingham Palace it was a totally new experience and I went down all Regents Street all alone, pretending I was in an apocalypse movie all on my own. And it was really exciting. And I don't
Starting point is 00:11:06 cycle. I mean, I can bicycle, but I don't do it in London because I'm not crazy. And I know that I would just, I would just be gone immediately. But it was actually very thrilling to do it with nobody else there. But I had to wait, constantly wait for, to spot another cyclist so I could get behind them to like see which part of the road I was allowed to be on. And then they were so fast that they'd be gone. So just to wait for another cyclist because I was so afraid of the traffic and then I was completely upright like a Victorian school mom and I kept going, whoa, weaving. So if anyone came in 100 meters of me, I would be like, oh, no. And then just get the, so from a distance, I was just woman constantly getting off the bike. But it felt thrilling.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It felt like my, I had like, what a day I've had. It felt like a real adventure. And it was really, really, really exciting bicycling along. And that's also, you know, you're doing, that's a home workout. I mean, you're technically at home, but that's basically like, that's the thing. It's not, it doesn't have to be being like, and one and two.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It can be like, whatever works for you. Like, you know, because we're all being, we're really shitting on people being like, look how many people there are in the park. Like, look how many people that are running. You're like, yeah, but they've closed the gyms. They've closed the swimming pools.
Starting point is 00:12:23 You can't do five-a-side football. You can't go to your, um, cap-aware, a club. You can't, you know, you can't do any of the things that were available to you that didn't feel like exercise. They felt like a fun physical thing. You can't go to the climbing wall or whatever, you know, fun shit you used to do. So there's very, we're limited now.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And so we've got to make these home workouts the funnest possible thing, which is where we come in. Also, I thought, wouldn't it be great if I get loads of you guys who listen to tweet us all different home workouts that you've been doing and then we can share them rather than list loads of things. It actually would be quite poor listening, I would say just to list a load of handles. I'm going to put them in the show notes. So, or rather a lovely producer, Naomi, is going to put them in the show notes.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So if you're listening to this and you want some inspiration about like, I don't know, some good Instagram live things, all different types of things, I'll put them in and then you can just shop around, which if I may, is my first tip. which is that don't watch one or try one, and I think I've already sort of said it really, and go, uh, not, not for me. You've got to shop around. I think I, I, I, before I found my faith, I did like four. You know, like how tell you, uh, if I don't like a book, I'll just put it down. I won't be like, I have to finish reading it. Otherwise I failed. Same with this. Same, like, like, have a go. And then if I'm, for any reason, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:13:50 I don't really want to do that again or like, I don't know. Like, I just didn't, I didn't vibe with it, then I'd just gone and that's the end and then try another one. And I think that's what you should try and do. So definitely don't think, oh, exercise isn't for me. If you were shopping for like a pan, you wouldn't look at the first pan and be like, pans aren't for me actually. You know, you'd be like, okay, I hate that, but let me see. Then you'd like learn about pans. I love to chosen pans because I would say all pans look the same, but like I totally get it. No, Stevie. So many different types of pans. cruiserie, do you want a griddle? Do you need a copper bottom? Like, what you're cooking in it?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Like, there's so many different types of pan. Oh my God. I just bought pans and was like, pans are for me. So that I should, I've done the opposite. I need to get out there. You smashed it. You just went straight in for pans for you. But if you're like, oh, okay, maybe there are different types of pan. What do I need to use the pan for? Like, once the snowball starts rolling, you will be like, oh, okay, okay, okay. I start to get it. I understand the words a bit more. Like, I understand things. Because it is so easy to like to Google, you know, 10 minute exercise. and then think that you hate the person, then be like, ah, forget it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But we just got to commit to that same level of online shopping, online browsing, you know, research that you would for anything else and be like, okay, I'm going to keep at it. I'm going to keep in here. Yeah, because it's also very, very demoralising. And the thing that I think, one of the reasons that I don't like yoga is that I've done maybe three classes and probably that I had a go on my own a bit guided. But I can't, I just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Like I can't do any element of it. So I very much like, we'll continue and do the full thing. But I don't enjoy any of it because I just feel consistently like I'm failing all the time. And that doesn't, I don't feel motivated by that. Whereas some people do feel motivated by that. Like, oh, I can't wait to be able to do that. Because I can't even touch my toes now. And I've actually never been able to even when I was like a kid, I couldn't touch my toes.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So that is not like a great start. So what I found is that like that is an element as well. like if you if you try something you just can't do any of it there will be other things that you can do like a bit of but not all of and then that leaves room so then you've got the whole gamut of like oh i feel quite i feel quite pumped up by the fact that i can do those ones but also motivated by the fact that i can't do that one rather than just consistently like i'm terrible i'm terrible i'm terrible well you have very long legs in a short body and so touching your toes will always be tricky for you actually my body is quite long so that's not the reason it's actually just i've very tall. Of course, you, of course, I remember your enormous long body. Like legs in a short body but you can't grab up. It's because somebody said that to me in a class when I couldn't
Starting point is 00:16:29 do something and I felt immediately so much better so I just wanted to pass on that good feeling to you. I was trying to do, I was trying to do a stretch and everyone else could do it in the class and I couldn't and then the instructor very quietly to me was like, it is tricky when you have long legs and a short body. He was like, you've got little arms like a T-Rex and long leg, no he didn't.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But he was like, and you're ugly. It did make me feel, it did make me feel much, much better. My favourite ones are like hit classes, so they're short, because I don't like the thought of doing exercise for a long time, short, and like rounds, so the ones that I do at the moment are like 10 rounds of the same exercise with the same breaks in, but there's like four different exercises in each round. So by the time you've got to round five, you're like, and you know, I can never get to round five.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You're like, I've got halfway, bitch. Like, I've only got something. and then by the time, and then you got, and then you got three to go. And then, so the amount that I can do, I always, like, surprise myself. My one dream, Tessa, is that I do a press-up. I've now managed to be able to do a press-up on my knees, which I've never been able to do. I've got absolutely no shoulder strength whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And I've now, I can do a bit of one on my knees, very happy. But it's all things like that, like planks and jumping up, jumping around. Well, the thing with a plank, and this is why I, like, feel very cross. with the entire workout community as an entire group. Yeah. Is that I spent my whole life thinking a plank was one thing. And then like finally, finally somebody was like, it's not that. Not that I'm like, like, I was doing a thing that looked like an impression of a plank.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But my back was completely sad down. Yes. And my shoulders were all in. And I was like, how in the Jesus Lord are you people holding this shit? And when they're like, okay, hold that for 45, 45. minutes, 45 seconds. I'm like, if I do even one more second, I'll die here. Like, this is not just like, and everyone's like, and I'm like, it's, it's not a case of like breathing through this. Like, there's no muscle here to hold me up. And then it turns out that actually I was just putting,
Starting point is 00:18:35 I was using all of the wrong muscles. I wasn't putting my hands in the right place. And my back was in the wrong thing. Like, I was doing it completely wrong. And no one ever teaches you how to do something correctly. And then it transitions to being like, oh, okay, this is like a just a deep breathing, like, oh okay this is a strength holding thing yeah um as opposed to being completely unachievable and it's so easy for people to try the thing do the impression be like oh that's completely unachievable and then be like oh that's not for me and i'll never try it ever again in my life rather than being like oh it's supposed to be taught like this like this like so i think we've missed out this big step in like how something should be done also i think a lot of how to do stuff
Starting point is 00:19:10 yeah when you i think that's that's like another good tip like if you don't if you haven't already been to classes where where someone has gone that that press up should not look like that, then don't just do a thing where, you know, like, because there's a lot of people who are posting just, which are very helpful, I'm sure, for lots of people, just like, like seven images or like gifts of them doing an exercise. And then they're like, do this for 10 rounds or do this for 12 times or whatever. That's great if you know how to do those exercises. If you don't, there's no point in doing that because you are just going to just be a woman
Starting point is 00:19:42 moving around wrong for a bit. But it's difficult because I, which is my other tip, is that I don't have any step. So I'm doing, I'm like, and that's one thing that I've been like, well, I can never do a home work at because I've got no space. But actually, turns out you can do it wedged behind your sofa, in between your sofa and your fridge. I've had to like, re-train my brain to be like, look, I don't have the right things. When I jump up and down, all of the dishes on the draining board rattle.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And the chia seeds fly out of the cupboard. The cheer seeds are flying out of the cupboard. It's not perfect. And the first few times I really hated it. Because I was like, oh, I feel really like, because the floor's very hard. I hadn't bought an exercise mat yet, buy the exercise mat. And I felt really like, it doesn't feel nice doing it at home. But actually, as you get used to it, like, it's absolutely funny.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You just have to not, try not to be annoyed that your dishes are rattling. And I would, on your yoga mat thing, I would say, even though obviously it's very stressful being like, oh, I have to buy all the stuff. But, like, I would say, don't buy any weights. Just like lift a bottle of wine. Like, who cares? Lift some pat. Lift a pan. There's something heavy in your house, just lift that up and down.
Starting point is 00:20:45 No, obviously, by the weights, if you want to. but I would say do get a proper mat if you don't have one because that will because you'll be like, oh, who cares? I'll put a towel down. Oh, I'll just do it on the floor. So bad. It will make such a difference actually having the stuff, you know, it's like, it will suddenly be like, oh, okay, this is the, this is the real deal because you're just sort of putting obstacles in your way. And then also, if you're like, if you're trying to run, but you have, you've only got like some converse, like, get some trainers, you know, like just just. It feels like very much a personal journey for you. I just, I have a feeling that you will have
Starting point is 00:21:15 run and converse at some point. Yeah, that felt very personal, didn't it? As Nick Kazz it came out. And, like, equally, if you're trying to do it in, like, an old, I don't know, you pee kit and, like, and just in a bra, like, get a sports bra. Like, that's going to make so much difference, you know, and you'll think, who cares, what's the difference? Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Again, that's me, but get the stuff. So I would say, look, if you can afford an ethically sourced or like, like, a sweaty Betty or something like, that's what I've got. And I'm really, really good. But I will say that. I've only got it because I used to work for a, a woman's magazine and I got them free when I reviewed sports bras. I would not buy that shit. It's so good, but so expensive. If you can't afford that and you're like,
Starting point is 00:21:54 but there's no ethically sourced hemp sports bras. Look, sometimes it's not your fault that the world is set up like that. Sometimes capitalism is not your fault and you just need a sports bra. You know? You know, like you work in a ride. You're doing it. You're recycling. Just pop on it. I'm not saying H&M don't do good sports bras. That's all I'm saying. I got a changing mat. Not a changing mat. No, I got a mat. And it was like, I think seven pounds off.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Again, Amazon. I'm sorry. So it's like seven pounds. And I was like, smash it. Within, I'd say a week, I'd, it, like, the mat, the mat was fully disintegrating. Like it was powder. Well, and so then that was in that. So then, so what I would say is there's not very expensive.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But if you try and get a mat, it's like a rubber mat from a named sports brand, because they are a brand. and you can be sort of sure that it won't disintegrate within a week. So I've got one now that's added as one. And I've had it for about a month and it's great. Sometimes you do have to be like, okay, I'm going to use this every day. We bought, when me and Stevie did our very first Edinburgh show, we had these leggings from Lulu Lemon.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And we were like, we cannot justify these leggings. They're so expensive. And we wanted to look like... It was like 70 quid, weren't they? Yeah, they were an absolute fortune. and we didn't have that kind of money to buy three identical leadings. And we wanted to look like we were in the Hunger Games and these leggings were perfect and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, those Lulu Lemon leggings, which we bought in 2015 or 2014, they have done three Edinburgh shows with me.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They've run two and a half marathons. I have taken them everywhere. They do everything. They're in the same shape they were when we bought them all that time ago. And so it does get to a point with sportswear where you have to be like, the good stuff will survive and will serve you in such good stead. And it will feel like a big expense now and will make you feel sick and you'll have to launder me and like laundered money through the account to be like, how can we justify this?
Starting point is 00:23:53 But you, it will, honestly, they're one of the greatest purchases we ever made. That is true. And I also do fully agree with that with the sports bra thing as well, because sports bras lose their shape really quickly. And I think if you've got like, if you're lucky enough and you can feel the edge of my voice to have little tiny, perky little boobs. Oh, good for you. Then you don't, then you can probably be like, well,
Starting point is 00:24:16 I'll just buy like a sports bra. It doesn't have to matter. Whereas if you've got anything like C plus, we're talking, then I think you do, it is obviously better to invest in the old Wamos because they will start, you won't feel it, but when the elasticity goes,
Starting point is 00:24:32 you only notice when it's too late because you will get used to the fact that it's gone. Do you know what I mean? So then your boobs will be like, It's only when basically your boob shoots out when you're doing a starfish crunch that you'll, that you'll be like, oh, I'd buy another one. But it is hard, isn't it? Because I do remember when I, it was in like my mid, well, to be it up my entire 20s and the
Starting point is 00:24:52 amount of people that would say, look, you've just got to invest in that now. And then it will, and I'm like, cool, I could do that with everything. There's so many things that you can't invest in a mattress, invest in a foundation. Invest in these things. And you're like, oh, you. I can't invest in anything. But yeah, anyway, we've waxed lyrical about investing in stuff. You will be aware of the difference.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I've got another left fun tip. So don't work out, don't do your home workout at a time you think you should do it. So, for example, of course you should, you should awake, arise around sort of, well, look, let's be honest, before work, which I'm sure you'll all be doing the exact times you're supposed to be doing it. So you'll arise at seven and you don't have a commute. So what excuse do you have? to not immediately move to your sports room that you have and just do a workout pre-breakfast, right? You don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So I do it at 6pm because I've realised over the years that there's no way I'm doing it in the day. I'm just not. Basically, you'll be one or the other. Or look, if you're lucky enough to do it on a lunch break, do it at a one, do it whenever. But what I'm saying is don't do, don't think you have to do a certain thing. But the one thing you should definitely do is always know what meal you're going to have after you work out. So the amount of times that I've been like,
Starting point is 00:26:11 oh, 6pm, right, well, and I'll sort of, I'll dinner afterwards, gone into the thing. And then afterwards, you're so naked and you're like, and now I've got to decide what to eat. I don't know what to eat. And I've eaten like, I don't know, half a loaf of bread and been like, I suppose that's good. So I think, have something to look forward to, like, pop something in the oven, not if you, because the oven is also behind where my sofa is. So I had to do a workout the other day. and we decided to have a roast in it and there was roast potatoes and I was absolutely dream. You've made your own Bickram studio.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Oh my God, I did Bicram. I didn't even realise that. Oh my God. So that's actually a tip. Pop some roast potatoes in the oven. Do it work out in front of it. Bitram. Lean into whatever you personally like to do.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And so I've been running at sunset. I think it's very nice. But also the whole way around, I think about having some sensations, Thai sweet chili crisps, some satsiki, and a glass of rose. I do. I think about it. a whole journey round and then I come home and have that. I think a thing that has really changed for me in lockdown
Starting point is 00:27:11 is that I didn't ever, I never had the time really to exercise. I don't know everybody is the same. Everyone's like, I'm not the time for this. And everyone has got the time. You just be like, I've got other things. I'd rather do. Always is what you mean when you say I haven't got the time. And now that we'd have nothing but time,
Starting point is 00:27:26 it's actually been a very, a real pleasure to go running. And to be allowed out, you know. And equally, I've started, I know people talk. about a lot about yoga with Adrienne and she is fantastic. She do do start really at the beginning of classes. I have tried to do them in the past and I always would like just, I think just get bored in the middle or I'd have my phone with me and I'd like do something else or I'd like be doing the, you know, child's pose and I'd check my emails, whatever. And so it is nice to feel that you have the time because you've got nothing else to fully commit to the class and like
Starting point is 00:28:01 to really, it is a weird shift. And I don't know if this is for everyone because, you know, who's say what your current situation is, but mine is that everything's gone. And so therefore, I have the time in the day to really, like, listen to a yoga class and, like, actually take part in it rather than thinking about 18 other things and then giving up in the middle. So, yeah, if you're going to try yoga and again, like, see if you're saying, maybe if you've never been to a yoga class, whatever, some of her total, total beginner stuff is good. But again, like, if you aren't Ophay with how it works, like, how your muscles are supposed to feel or, like, what that move is supposed to feel like, then it can be quite tricky to be like, sorry, like, what are you, what are you doing there?
Starting point is 00:28:37 How have you made your leg? How's your leg gone? How's your leg gone through there? Also, if you're not used to, I'm very, very bad at my left and right. One of the many reasons if I don't drive. And so when they go like, pop your left hand down and your right hand up, like, that takes me like, by the time I've gone, ah, left and left hand right, right, got it. Yeah. Then I did she do on to the next thing. And so I then feel, not only feel physically inferior, I feel stupid, Tessa. That's not uncommon. It is really, that is a really, that is a really, really familiar feeling to come away and being like, I'm stupid. Like, I couldn't get it. I'm not strong. I didn't understand. And that is not much like, like, that's not on you. Like, that is
Starting point is 00:29:13 not a failing on your part. That is a failing on like how we try and communicate physical things to each other. Like, we are not good at it. It's like how you, loads only people come away thinking they're not good at math. You're not good at math. Of the seven different ways there are to teach children, what you're, the one way that your school chose was not one of the other six that works for you. So it's not to do with you. It's to do with how a thing was communicated to you. I could be a mathematical genius and a yogi. But I truly believe you're both. Thank you. You just want to give an opportunity to learn. No, I wasn't. And also I wanted to say as well, like with the things like classes and things like that, I didn't, when I was, I didn't just go,
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm going to do it every day now for six weeks. I did like a couple and then one week. And then I did like, oh, I'll try every other day. And then I was like on the days where I wasn't doing, I was like, I'm quite bored. So I was like, oh, I'll just do it every day then. So it's like I could, I built up very like kind of slowly. So there's no point in going to, if you go too much, then you're more likely to be like, oh, I'm, I can't do it. Or I'm too, it hurts. So I'm rubbish at this.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Whereas if you do it, just do the things that you can manage. And because if you do, if you're doing, if you're doing five minutes of something, then you're winning. That's, you don't it. You smashed it. Yeah. And instead of being like, it was only five minutes. It was five minutes.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Five minutes. Five four minutes. Are you kidding? That's five minutes. is more than zero, you know? Like, you did so well. Two more little things. One is about running. If you do want to get into running, really recommend, obviously listen to our guided run on, that's coming up on Thursday, but also the Nike running app. I really recommend. It's completely free. You can do from one kilometer run, guided runs. And the difference of having somebody there
Starting point is 00:30:51 with you in your ears makes such a difference instead of just putting on Beyonce at top volume and attempting to like sprint around the field, actually having somebody like with you makes the biggest difference. And so the more that you can, whatever exercise you're doing, the more that you can find somebody to be with you in your ear will make such a difference. And then my last thing is just that I get so many messages
Starting point is 00:31:13 about learning to do the splits. And I have tried to do a splits video because people have asked me so many times. It's an inherently, you know, sort of sexy thing, you know? Is it? I don't know. It's crotch-based, I suppose. It's crotch-based, and I would sort of set up the camera,
Starting point is 00:31:30 and then I would go and, like, sit at a distance, and then show the camera my crotch. I've lost morale a few times, but I'll get somebody else behind the camera, and I'll really commit to it, and I will make this video for you all. In the meantime, if you would like to learn to do the splits or to get more flexible in lockdown,
Starting point is 00:31:47 if you just type into Google 10 exercises for doing the splits, you will be met with an absolute reams and reams and reams of things. that there is, and I know this from extensive research, there isn't any good ones out there. They are all generally actual gymnasts who are like, and then just slide down to the floor. You know, it's all, I don't know, it's all very tedious. So pick any at random. The 10 exercises are the same exercises. There is no good person.
Starting point is 00:32:13 There is no splits with Adrienne. Like, there is no person with an Instagram account that I recommend. You have to do that. I will try. I'll try madame this, Stevie. Now I've got your support. Pop it on Instagram Live. Pop on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:32:24 on Twitter. Oh, pop it out there. Get it out there. And so if you're listening and hopefully that helps, like basically, it's just, it's just find something that you, that you really connect with and want to do again, rather than just force yourself into something you think you should do.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Do it at the time that suits you. And of course, if you're listening, they're like, I have like children and a job. I'm so, we are very, very sorry, because neither of us have children or a job. So we are not bringing the full gamut of human experience during this lockdown at all. I do apologize.
Starting point is 00:32:54 It's also like that is that unfortunate thing. Like people have been telling us that 30 minutes of exercise every day will boost your seroton and make you feel better. And then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah. And then you do and you're like, oh, bugger. Bagger. I hate that. Oh, that's been infuriating. And also if you are trying to learn something, I believe that the crossover point is 10 days.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That is how long it takes from you being like, this is 10 days of being like, this is absolutely nothing. I still can't get it. And on the 11th day is like, oh. Oh, suddenly running doesn't feel like such agony. Suddenly, I feel a bit more flexible. Suddenly, I can do the burpee. You know, once you've felt that the first time, you will stick with it. You'll be able to stay in the game.
Starting point is 00:33:35 So hang in there till day 11. Yeah, until you see that little bit and always be looking out for that a little bit of improving. You're like, oh, before I couldn't do one of those. Now I can do three. Exactly. Not to bang on about my favorite Nike running at with Coach Bennett. But it gives you these little, it says like new achievement. It says like, you've run this many, this is your fastest one kilometer.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You've run three times this week. And it's the sort of stuff that you would never have remembered. Like, I wouldn't have known I'd run three times that week or managed to do however many kilometers this month. I'd just be like, I don't know. Couldn't tell me. 100? You know, at a guess.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Prop, prop smashed out 100, mate. No, I wouldn't even have, but someone telling you like, this is how much you've done because we never ever, we never ever remind ourselves of what we've done. We only think like, oh, I haven't, what all the stuff you haven't done yet, but someone being like, hello, champ, have you seen what you've done? You're like, thank you, actually. Yeah. Move the pans.
Starting point is 00:34:24 move this over, put your trousers on properly. Make yourself a nice meal. And yeah, and have a look in the show notes and we will put a load of ideas for you. Maybe just make it your new thing for today that you're going to have a go and then you never do it again. That's fine. It's for you just to try and feel a little bit nicer and a little bit in control of something, you know? Very much so. Don't forget to have a listen to our guided Ron that we're going to be recording for you and it's going to be out on Thursday. Have a lovely week and try and stretch that time out. Yes, do new things. To perceive time in a new way.
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