Nobody Panic - How to Embrace Your Birthday

Episode Date: September 22, 2020

Tessa and Stevie get flustered about their birthdays so have done some research as to how to stop getting flustered. Whether it’s the concept of ageing, career milestone angst or just not wanting a ...fuss (while secretly wanting a fuss) here’s how to sail through a birthday with ease.Want to support Nobody Panic? You can make a one-off donation at https://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanicRecorded and edited by Naomi Parnell for Plosive Productions.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Follow Nobody Panic on Twitter @NobodyPanicPodSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.
Starting point is 00:00:17 True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true, Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Hello, welcome to Nobody Panic. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, everyone. Hello, and welcome to the birthday edition. Is it your birthday? No. Well, then pause this one and wait until it's the week before your birthday. I'd say still listen, because I think it's going to be a fascinating
Starting point is 00:01:01 episode, quite seriously. I'm Stevie. I'm a member of Nobody Panic. I'm Dessa. I'm also a member of Nobody Panic. And it is my birthday. tomorrow and this podcast is appropriately titled How Do Embrace Your Birthday? Brackets when it doesn't feel like you'd actually like to embrace it. Thank you. My experience of Tessa's birthday is onefold. It's me, I think about a couple of years ago being like,
Starting point is 00:01:36 I have no idea how old Tessa is. And then saying, Tessa, is it? nearly is it your birthday this year? And Tess are going, maybe, we don't talk about it? And then we're being like, it could be. And then not actually being confident of when it is. Although you did have one birthday. I know that maybe it was Christmas.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Was it your birthday when you did that for our Arosha Tower? Stevie, do you think that was my birthday or do you think it was Christmas? It was Christmas. But I just suddenly thought wildly that maybe you did. one day where we played, I did go to a birthday once of yours. I think it was like late Twentz and we played a fun game. There was only like a few people. It was like really like chilled out like I didn't just happen to be here on this day. Yes. Yes. That sounds about right. And we, and then we played a game with a balloon. There was like a big, a big balloon and we played a game
Starting point is 00:02:34 with it. And I've got a video of some people. I can't remember what the game was. It was something like you have to like put the balloon in your mouth and spin around. I can't remember. That sounds absolutely shit. I had a lovely time. It was very like, lo-key. Yes, that was a birthday. I had just a party in the middle of the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And I put some balloons out on the gate and somebody stole them. And I was like, oh, London. Aren't you rotten? It's not just the relentless march of death, the birthday concern. It's not just like, oh, we're all aging. Because I recently discovered that Rebel Wilson has been like, about her age so much that she sued Hello magazine in a defamation case for revealing her true age. Listen, I don't have all the details. Please don't sue us, Rebel Wilson. We won't reveal
Starting point is 00:03:21 your age. We won't reveal your age. I could not age that woman if I sat for about a week. I have no idea. I'm terrible with aging people as in like saying how old they are. I always think people are younger than they are. Or very occasionally only like twice. I've got I've absolutely got it wrong the other way. So now I've learned if you're not sure. And someone says, the awful. Oh, guess how old I am? You always say 16.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah. I remember there was a lady in our village called Meg, surname, not disclosed for privacy reasons. And when I was about 11, I remember my dad's friend they were coming home quite drunk and they were saying, I think she's very well preserved,
Starting point is 00:04:05 but I think she's nearly 17. and she was 40. Oh my God. God bless Meg and all the sale in a router. God bless her. No, aging is very hard. It's not just about that. It's not really that.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I think it's these. I've been thinking about it this week and I think my things are it's September. So it's Virgo season and due to it being the ninth month of the year and conceptions happening in Christmas, there's a lot of us. So you can barely move. Sorry, that's why there are so many September birthdays.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You felt lush at the old Christmas dew and your parents thought, oh, what else is there? What else is there on? There's nothing else on. So there is a lot of our September. So it also feels like people are bored by it. And then I'm like, then I have this like, well, nobody wants to come to my birthday. So I'll just do nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And also my parents really, really liked birthdays and I really to them very seriously. So we had a very, like, really fun, very elaborate birthdays as kids. My mum made me a Crystal May's one once that were all around the house. And then I think... That makes sense, considering some of your parties you've had. Yes. But then you get older and you're like, oh, you have to do all that bit yourself. And then you lose interest. Anyway, that's all my...
Starting point is 00:05:19 That's all my chagrin about birthdays. I hope we can address some of the things and make me feel a bit more positive about it all. Up into like 25, I was like, okay, fine. Like, you'd be like, oh, 24 feels a bit old. So I'd be like, now, shame on me. You're not, if you're listening, you're not at all. You're not old at any age, really. You're not old at any age, no, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You just think you are because you're the oldest you've ever been. But you're also the youngest you're ever going to be. Oh my God. But also as well, it's so much, it's not about the number. It's, you are, well, we'll get into it in a minute, but it's all about outside pressures and also the milestones, which we've talked about, as much as you go like, yeah, it's a different time now to my parents.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You can't help but sometimes be like, oh, my parents had two children, including me and a house two years ago. It's very hard, isn't it? Not to be like, oh, my mum had already given birth to her my youngest. She was pregnant for the second time by this age. You know, you're like, oh, God. Yeah. Even if you don't, you don't wish to do that, you're still like,
Starting point is 00:06:30 well, that's the thought I've had in my head now. and I've found that actually recently birthdays have been fine but yeah like late 20s I found birthdays there's always a moment where there's like a sobering moment I'd be like oh and exactly oh yeah that's it isn't it
Starting point is 00:06:48 anyway what's the adult thing that you did this week apart from have a birthday well you'll remember that I bought myself a Love Island swimming costume oh my God the one that went really up far up your ass Yep, the high leg, high butt number.
Starting point is 00:07:04 High yield. High yield. High risk, high yield. It is, it is, if you'll see from last year's season, Lucy and Molly May wore it a lot, white and black, zips up up the front. Serious, but also, it's up your butt. And it's made from recycled marine plastic. So listen, look, I was really thrilled with it. Anyway, I took it swimming.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Of course, it's bright, I've never had a bright white swimmer question before, and let me tell you, Why, you don't have them, the chlorine makes it yellow. So what have I done today? Discovered that, so I've got white wine, it's currently soaking in the bathtub right now. White wine vinegar, lemon, and bicarbonate of soda, which I've discovered is just the UK word for baking soda, which I'm always looking for in the supermarket. And then they're like, do you mean baking powder? And I'm like, I guess so. And then I'm throwing what makes yeast rise into my washing to attempt to make it clean.
Starting point is 00:07:58 and unsurprisingly, it's not working. So if that's something you've also struggled with, bicarbonate of soda is the UK word for baking soda. Got it. Oh, God. So that's currently in the tub right now, and I'll let you know in eight hours if there's been any progress. That's so great.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah. What's yours? I did my first yoga. Wow. Finally, I tried yoga with Adrienne, Adrienne. Oh, yes. She's very good, isn't she? And so, yeah, I'm very much enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Some of them really don't feel like exercise and some of them are the hardest things I've ever done. So the consistency is... And that's yoga. And that's yoga. Sometimes you do a thing where she'll be like, if this is not for you, just like put your legs flat and you're like,
Starting point is 00:08:41 who could this not before? Like who can't do this? I'm like, what's what... Who is having a problem with this? I'm lying flat on my back. What's the issue? And then sometimes she does one where you're like, who is doing that?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Who's got that up there? Yeah, I feel. quite, I mean, I feel quite adult when I'm doing, because I've always thought of yoga. Well done for getting all the way through them, because sometimes I would start and then I would just lose interest in the middle, so really well done for staying with the class. I'm really very proud of you, Stevie.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Thank you. Okay, let's get to birthdays. Right. Boost me up. Right. Well, this might not boost your first, because it's reasons why someone may feel a bit like, about their birthday. Aging, obviously, I'm just going to like skip right through that. High expectations. So sometimes we're disappointed by not having expectations met by a birthday party,
Starting point is 00:09:31 celebration or gifts, which is not a selfish thing. It's more just like, it's like that it's the Christmas syndrome where you're like, if you had lovely Christmases when you were younger, you're like, oh, this is now I'm an adult, this is rubbish. That's we all, many go through that and many also have the opposite where they're like Christmas was awful, so I hate Christmas. And then you must find the Christmas spirit within. Within, I suspect it's that.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I was thinking like, is it that people put more effort in? when you were a child? Or is it that just as a child, like a box was quite exciting. So actually your expectations were just constantly met and ceded over and over again because you didn't actually have the imagination to imagine anything better.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And then, you know, everything was wonderful. And now I think it's impossible not to see that Kanye West made Kim Kardashian, you know, a room full of flowers and then trapped a violinist in it. Trapped quite a famous violinist, I think, in their living room surrounded by roses. for her birthday.
Starting point is 00:10:28 So then you're like, well, that's where my expectations are. And it's not really fair on all my family and friends that they have to meet that. And I haven't revealed to anyone. That's what I want. But also, I don't want specifically that. I want that level of effort that's a surprise, but also, you know, and you're like, this is unfair on me. This is unfair behavior.
Starting point is 00:10:45 This is a bit, yes. But also conversely, I don't want anything because I get very embarrassed. But then I, so when then when the birthday, comes along. I don't know. I don't know what I want. What I'm feeling. I get so easily overwhelmed when someone just sends me a card. I'm like, oh, so nice. And it's a positive emotion that it wasn't clear. But it's so, I'm very confused by what I want for a birthday, which then can make you it's a, it's a simultaneous, oh, I don't want any bother. And I want Kim Kardashian's room of roses and a violinist. So much bother.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So much bother. Go to some bother. Yeah. It's both, and it's not that you're pretending when you say you don't want any bother. Like you really don't want people to, you don't want any bother, but you do want the bother. And that, and that tidal wave of dual think, I think, is what causes the birthday blues. That plus the relentless march of death and birthdays are as fun as when you were five. So, yes, social pressure as well of being like, oh, cool, like milestone birthdays,
Starting point is 00:11:50 people always like, oh, the milestone birthdays, but I think the milestone birthdays are actually, personally, fine. it's the ones in between. So it's like 30, a lot of fun. There wasn't a way when I was like, wow, I'm 30. But like I was fine. Day one, they two, a bit weird. Like, oh, now I'm just, now I'm just a woman just sort of existing in her 30s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It's a very strange vibe for me because I don't think I'll, and this is, again, something that old people say a lot. I don't think I'll ever feel a day over 26. Yes. The thing about the 30s is like people, there's a lot of people who are already in the water, clapping people who are diving in and being like, it's actually really, once you're in, you're in,
Starting point is 00:12:28 like it's not as bad as you think. And then like, you do dive in, then you're like, oh, that wasn't bad because everyone's there really cheering you on. But then 31, you're just like, in the water. Yeah, you're already in the water. You're already in the water. There's like nobody clapping you.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And it's just more, and you're just like, is it just swimming now for ages? And it is. Yes. It is. It is. It is. But as with most things,
Starting point is 00:12:53 a lot of it is about like you just said the dual thing so most of the things that i've read have been like stop like just take out what like you think you should want what you're like oh no and just be very honest when you're like when i wake up on my birthday what would i really like and then tell somebody close to you tell somebody that yeah and there's no embarrassment you know if you wanted to be your special day you can make it like you don't have to make it your special day all yourself you You could be like, I just would really like someone to like, you know, just sort of surprise me with some things. That would be nice. But you can't say surprise me with some things.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Then people would be like, what things? True. Can you surprise me with some things? I'd be like, Stevie, what do you want? Like a dog? Yes. Like what? Well, you say that.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But then a surprise on your birthday can be any level. Like, so if you're starting off at like, oh, bother, I don't bother. I'm sat alone in my cupboard. Like, yeah. then someone, a surprise being like, someone's put some balloons in the living room and a nice little breakfast thing for you. You're like, oh, lovely.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Or like, oh, we've got some friends together at the pub, but you thought it was just going to be being you. Lovely. Like, very much, as you get older, what's great is the, when you're a kid, I don't know about you, but I was consistently being like, for my birthday, I will probably wake up.
Starting point is 00:14:22 and we'll probably be in France or something. And there'll just be loads of magicians. And like, your imagination kind of can take you into these places. It was like, whereas when you're an adult, your like barometer for surprise is very low. Like this year for my sister's birthday, she knew I was coming to see her, but I surprised it with the time I was going to see her.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Like, surely that won't shock her. surely, but it absolutely blew our mind. Like, the, the, we are so moved, especially now when it's like, you know, most, most birthdays is like, oh, I've said it on Facebook and I've said it on, on WhatsApp. So that's enough, right? Any effort, like, like, when you did that video for me for my birthday, when you, like, put together that video with both friends all doing a TikTok dance, like, I cried for ages. Like, I couldn't believe it. And I think, obviously, that was a lot of work. but that wasn't something I would ever like go,
Starting point is 00:15:24 I think I want all my friends to do a TikTok dance where they're sending me a card. Like I just would not have thought that. No. I think any thought is like so nice. So the person that you say like, I just would like to do something, I'm not sure what,
Starting point is 00:15:37 but like even that sentence shows them like, oh, I should probably sort something out. And yes, it's not perfect. Yes. But the problem with going, I would like to wake up to a breakfast. I would like to then go to this. I would like to go to the park
Starting point is 00:15:49 and all my friends are there, then you feel like you've just managed your own birthday and it's kind of boring and rubbish. Whereas when you leave the creativity open to people who are close to you, then it gives them the signal to go wild. But you can then say things that you don't like. So, for example, my boyfriend absolutely cannot stand surprise parties. Like, love something for other people.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Absolutely, if you surprise the shadow, he becomes a mist. Not happening. So I know never to do that, but I know that he quite likes, like, I don't know, a surprise. Like, I mean, everyone who knows you knows that you want a treasure hump, that's what you want. That is what I want. And you also look at what other people do. So you can look at what you do for other people on their birthday.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And people will do that for you on your birthday. But the problem is, is when you don't talk about your birthday or you don't discuss your birthday at all, people just presume you hate your birthday, so they just don't do anything. So like, whereas actually what I'm saying is like, can you all do the thing? please. Right. I, yeah, right, yeah. Okay. I see. Desperately with your eyes, while not saying anything else. I'm saying whatever. I don't, I'm saying whatever, nothing. But what I mean is, yeah, everything. Okay. Basically, what I've got here is that like you're sick at work syndrome back in the day when you still would go to work
Starting point is 00:17:08 when you were sick, which I believe now, we may have passed forever. You're at work. You're very unwell. You absolutely should go home. But what you want is your boss to say, oh, you don't look well. you should go home, you know? Like, weirdly, you just want someone else to do it. Whereas really, just go home, you idiot. So I think I'm in that phase. I'm just like, just go home, you idiot. Just tell people you want to celebrate your birthday, please.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You just don't like doing it. Yeah. May I tell you something about, I just remembered about my expectations being too high. Jack Rook, a friend of the podcast and acclaimed author. Cheer the fuck up in all good bookshops now. We went to the Jurassic Coast and recently, and he was coming out of the sea. And I was on the beach and he went to the seaside. He was in the beach, in the sea.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Oh, I've told it badly. Anyway, I see him in the sea and I see him with these like balloons under the water, like helium balloons. And honestly, in my head, I thought, those are for me. He has organized. He went in the sea without any balloons. So somebody must have met him in the sea. to give him these helium balloons.
Starting point is 00:18:20 King Triton. King Triton or whoever, whatever link he's got to the underworld. And now he's going to emerge out of the sea. And honestly, I saw him and I thought, I won't look so I don't ruin the superiors. That is honestly where I was at mentally of like... What was into the water?
Starting point is 00:18:42 They were balloons. They were old balloons. Obviously, they had fallen to the sea. And he was just very environmentally friendly, collecting them and was dragging them back out of the sea. So they were just tattered old helium balloons. But because they were like sort of bouncing under the water, I honestly thought they were fully full helium balloons
Starting point is 00:18:59 and he was going to emerge out of the sea for me with them. Oh God. Right. Right. Right. I have just got to get the word out. My birthday. I have to say it is new.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I think it's now we're saying, now we've done this episode or we're in the middle of this episode, it's so obvious and I don't know why I didn't see it that of course that's what you would like because that's very consistent with you as a person but I genuinely did think and I thought you're going to be like I hate birthdays I just don't enjoy them
Starting point is 00:19:30 and so but actually you do you just would like you want some believe you want King Triton to give you some balloons out of the water but that's a hard ask you know for people that is hard I'd say don't ask for that but there are other things you can ask for
Starting point is 00:19:46 now if it's is it's a good So, yeah, so if, so, so that says that's something that, yeah, we're sort of solved as in you, you do have to tell people. You do have to tell people. You do have to take yourself home from work. You do just have to put the word out. You can't just expect people. If you, someone asks you what you want and you say nothing, they will give you nothing. Okay, could everyone start prepping now for next year when I want a lot of fuss made of me? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Stevie. but if it is an issue with age, that's often, like, I mean, this is such an obvious thing to say it, but age is not anything more than the amount of times of gone round the sun, sure. So that doesn't really mean anything in and of itself, unless it's an age thing where, you know, you're older and you're like feeling older and maybe, and that's very, very, very tricky,
Starting point is 00:20:36 because then you have to like, because, you know, there are different stages of life, so maybe you're, like, moving into middle age or you're moving into old age and that's obviously a slightly different thing. But if it's just what the number looks like, that's not, you're not worried about age, that's you worried about social pressures. That's all that is, which is say all that is. That's a massive thing. But one of the ways that you can do that is you look back on the last year and you just write down everything that you have done this year that makes you go like, yeah, or it would say, puff, puff, puff. It doesn't have to be, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:21:12 you might think, and I sometimes see this, I'm like, not really, really anything, but you actually, people often have a great tendency to just play everything that they've done down and everything everyone else is up. So it could just be as simple as like, well, on that lovely holiday, or like, oh, there was that time when, you know, we all got together as a family,
Starting point is 00:21:30 we played that stupid game and it was really funny because mum fell over, I don't know, something. It can just be, and sometimes it's nice to look back through your dates, diary, whether it's on your phone or whether it's not to kind of jog your memory of like a nice, a nice drink you went with a friend, a new friend that you made. Basically, you are in a different place than you were last year. And if that place is when you look back and you go like, oh, God, I'm actually in a more
Starting point is 00:21:53 difficult place than I was last year, which for a lot of people that won't be the case, because 2020 has been a dumpster fire, as they say in America. I've never thought they were dumbster before in my life. All good there. All good there. You can then plan for the next year to be like, okay, well, how? How am I going to make it so that for next year and the next birthday when I look back, what's like the bare minimum that I would like to do to make me feel like,
Starting point is 00:22:16 oh, I have moved forward and I have. So it's, but also just to be aware of, like, the age thing, like, we've touched on it before, like, each generation, the ages jumble up and mean different things. So my parents will have looked back on their parents and been like, hang on, I'm having it. Like, I remember my mom being like, oh, yes, I was a very old mother. Like she had a, she had me at like 29 and junior at like 31 or something. It's like, I can't remember. Sorry, Mom, that you're listening and I don't know that or how old you were.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But it's around that. It's like, that's fine now. That's not an old mother. I watched, I watched Father of the Bride the other day. Classic. Your namesake. Yes. Doing some of his best work.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Absolutely. And the girl comes back from, I remember, I watched it as a child. And I remember being like, just let it get mad. married George Banks. God. And then she comes home. She's a child. She's a child who wants to get married. She's 23 and she looks like a baby. And then she was like, why are you stopping this? Like you were this old when, mum was this old when you got married. And then the mum's actually like, we were actually 20 and I was 21 when I had you. And I was like, what? And that was just a generational thing. Like that was a really reasonable time to get married. And before that,
Starting point is 00:23:30 you were married at 15 and then you were working. down the mine or wherever you worked in the medieval, you know. In the medieval times, which is where we're talking about. Mining, of course, was of course very popular in the medieval era. In the medieval era. You were out following the thing or working in the court of Henry the 8th. Those are your two options as a teenage. But yeah, also like, you know, Romeo and Julia, like, Julia was like 12 or something. And it's, it's, um, yeah, yeah, the further you go back, the younger it gets, the weirder it feels. But that's also because they all died at 30 because they were like of the pox.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Look, again, we really sort out the history of this, but fine. Somebody died. Look, it wasn't popular at some point. It was the pox and they died at 30. But now life expectancy is so long. And now also like the world is not set up for you to be like, well, for example, I'm 30 so it's over. One thing that never fails to both surprise me, but also be like, well, why would it
Starting point is 00:24:26 be any different because I felt exactly the same is the amount of people in their like very early 20s that I speak to who are like, yeah, we'll be able to. time's ticking so and you're like oh my good lord like no it is not like i don't even know it just feels like time is ticking weird talking about time ticking and maybe people 10 years older than us are like f you in the pipe time is they are i'm sure and then people 10 years older than them are like what are you talking about time not ticking for you time's ticking for me so i guess everyone just thinks time is ticking for me but actually it's time is ticking but turns out for no one so just get over yes get over it's right so just get over it's just so i don't know
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm sticking for itself. And you're no part of this, so stop it. That's the only answer to that one. Just stop it. Good, good work. Tesla, for a empathetic. Thank you. The one thing that I always think about as well is, like, often, there's a reason behind
Starting point is 00:25:18 why some years you'll be like, that's an okay age. And then of the years, you'd be like, this is not an okay age. And it's often, it will be, because maybe you had a year that didn't feel as progressive or as, like, fruitful as the year. that you felt like, actually, I've done quite a lot this year, that's been all right. Like, if you've, like, you know, been promoted or you've changed jobs and you're finally doing something that you love, then maybe turning an age is not going to bother. Or you just had kids.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Or you just like, you've got, you finally got married, then you really want to get married. Like, you bought a house. If you've achieved something that you're, that is really important to you, then of course, you're not going to be, like, bummed out at how old you are. Because you, but I always think back to whenever I am, it's always like a career-based thing for me, because I'm always like, my career all the time. A lot of people do feel like, oh, I'm kind of stuck in this thing now. I can't really ever change.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Like my mom went to university, went back to university when she was 40 and completely retrained is a completely different career and had a brilliant like, I don't know, like 15, 20 year career in a completely different field. So you can, there's like, and everyone's like, all, life begins at 40, which feels patronising. And no, it doesn't. Your life just continues and it will just keep going until it is not there anymore. That's basically just what happens. So you don't have to worry. And it is so important to focus on the day, Lots of people here say, like, just really genuinely know what you would like to do on the day. And if it is nothing, then fine.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But is it nothing? Is it nothing? And if it is, like, I get very, very nervous when I throw big parties. But I always want to be at parties where all my friends are. So I was like, this seems like a good idea. I never, like, I never have the best time because it's, I have a nice time, like, about midnight on the night when I'm, like, quite drunk. But the lead up to it is always so stressful that it makes me not like my birthday. I'm like, oh God, what if no one could?
Starting point is 00:27:03 Oh, God, it's something to be awful. So if that's something, you don't have to have a party or even better, get a friend to organise your birthday party for you. I've gone to loads of parties like that, but I would never think to do that because I'd be like, well, no, I would want to do that. But what an honour it would be if someone said to you, like, trusts you with that. And I think I would find it much, much easier to organise someone else's than to organise my own,
Starting point is 00:27:22 you know. Yes. But also, and this is not exactly special, not exactly special. Everyone's been through it this year. It's now become illegal to have a birthday party, you know? Of course, yes. So that's very, very tricky, unless it's like five people and you're all.
Starting point is 00:27:36 So I'm just going to space it out maybe and meet continuous groups of six. Very good. In their chosen six-man pocket. And then I will just space that out throughout the day. Yeah, it'd be like a people treasure hunt. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Perfect. So yes, I don't know. I don't know, but hopefully that helped in some way. Yeah, I think it did. I think it was just, I think it really did. It made me be like, right, you can't just wander around saying you don't like it and expect everyone. You've got to take some control.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And this is incidentally, some of you might be listening and be like, what the, what the GF are you talking about? I love birthdays and I love my, what the gluten free? What the gluten free are you talking about? I don't know what it sounds for either. Just being like, some people are really good at their birthdays. Everyone knows when their birthday is. They throw a fantastic party every year. They're like, I love my birthday.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Please come and make a fuss with me. and I think maybe everybody is that person, but only some people are able of expressing it and everyone else is just this little secret shell being like, I want to be there. That's like everyone's got a little person inside with like a little balloon and a little hat being like, birthday time?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, yeah. But then you just, sometimes they're ignored. So how do we get them out? Like, do you, shall I, do I text somebody and I just say, what's my phrasing basically? And what's the phrasing for people listening? Like, is it like, I'd actually like a fuss. That's my good fast please.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, like, how do I phrase it? I think a positive thing is to pick someone that you can say this to, that you're like, I feel comfortable. I'm being like, I historically have been very down on birthdays, but I would actually like to do something, but I really struggle with organizing something for myself because I just don't quite know how to go about it.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. Do you reckon you could help me put something together? Yeah, okay, okay. Fine. Okay, that's sounds good. Can you show me a surprise part of this? That's fun as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, historically I've been quite down on birthdays. I'm really ready to do it this year. Please could you help me? I would actually like a fuss.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I would actually like a bit of bother. Nobody is coming out of the sea with balloons for you. Unless you've asked for it. Unless you specifically requested that. Right, I'm going out there to specifically request a lot of things for my birthday. Thank you, Stevie. I feel really buoyed up by. this really ready. I'm so glad. I feel ready to do it. And yeah, if you're down about the passing of time and your achievements and stuff, write on things
Starting point is 00:30:11 you've done. Yeah. And also no age counts in 2020. Just forget it. And also go and have a listen to our milestone, milestones episode about like the things that you think you should have done by certain times and just remember that. It's all nonsense and don't worry about it. Yes, that was a very charming episode, wasn't it? I'm sure. I'm sure that was based on one of us thrown a Benny because we did recently turn 30. I'm sure that was also one of our most
Starting point is 00:30:36 oft-requested ones that. Yes. So how much it's a thing that people are really worried about so you're not alone in that fear of thinking you haven't done the things by the time you thought you would have done the things. If you're a Virgo, good luck. Good luck and God bless.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Good luck and God bless. Any other science? Get the hell out. I've no time for you. have a lovely week. If it's your birthday, happy birthday. If you've got a friend who you're like, I think they hate birthdays, have a look into it because they probably don't.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Say to them, would you like a fuss? You always say you don't, but would you like a fuss made? Would you like a bit of fuss, would you like a bit of fuss? Would you like a bit of fuss? And then also tweet us.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Tweeters your birthday. I was going to say, I don't know if that works. There's like loads of dates that are being tweeted. You know what? Fine, I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And tweet us or email us if you have any suggestions for future podcasts, at Nobody PanicPod, I'm at Stevie MBS. The S is a 5. I'm at Tessa Coates. The email is Nobody Pannock Podcast at gmail.com. And the Instagram is, if you like,
Starting point is 00:31:42 pictures more than words. Stevie's is the same as her Twitter. Mine is We pray love. No further questions. Very great shout out our Instagram. That felt fresh. It did feel fresh, didn't it? I really brought something I thought in that moment.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Send me some fuss. I'll take it. Yes, basically, say happy birthday to Tessie, even though it was, when you're listening, it was a birthday last week. It was the 16th of September. Let's extend it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Let's extend the joy. And yeah, have a lovely week, guys. See you next time. And happy birthday, everyone. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Have a lovely week. Goodbye.

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