Nobody Panic - How to Make Friends with Your Neighbours
Episode Date: July 27, 2021Just moved in and trying to meet your neighbours? Lived there for ten years and never got past nodding terms? Stevie and Tessa are trying to be better friends with the people next door and explore how... to find that middle ground between never speaking, and coming on too strong. Want to support Nobody Panic? You can make a one-off donation at https://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanicRecorded and edited by Naomi Parnell for Plosive.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Follow Nobody Panic on Twitter @NobodyPanicPodSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to the podcast. Nobody Panic. That small little vignette. I feel you all felt it. It was like you were there.
This one is about how to make friends with your neighbours. And to be honest, in that aforementioned vignette, I think we've done everything we need to.
So have a good week.
We'll see you next time.
We've done how to deal with awful neighbours in the past.
And everybody has had their fair share of awful neighbours.
But this is about the actively trying to make friends with them.
This is an episode very close to my heart.
It's not actually a suggestion.
It's actually a suggestion from me because I recently moved.
And I'm going to imagine if they listen.
I don't know if they do.
But there's some nice people next door.
and I just find myself being weird, always thinking I'm being too pushy or I'm being not
pushy enough or I'm like, I don't know, you know, you're just constantly because it's, it's not
like any other type of making friends because you're literally like, well, I'm constantly in my
pajamas or like on the balcony trying to get my dog to wait. And you don't know if someone
wants to be left alone because they live, it's their house or not. It's a very, very weird thing
neighboring because it's, it's so alien.
to like it's so anti I don't know we live in such close proximity with people who we sort of want to never speak to and pretend that we don't live in close proximity to them so it's the opposite of like you know you've maybe like student halls or you went so we're like everyone's on a corridor together and then you but you're all you live in close proximity but you're united by all doing the same thing whereas this is just close proximity and nothing to nothing you could be the most disparate you know you have nothing in common whatsoever apart from all.
a common wall, you know?
It's a thing of when you both kind of leave the house together and you're like, oh, hi.
And you know that everyone's kind of heart is sinking because they have to make small talk now.
And you know that you're probably going to the same tube station.
So that hasn't happened yet actually, but it will.
I, the other day coming into my block of fats, I was getting the post and then somebody came in and said,
hi, hi, hi.
And even though they're saying like four flights of stairs to walk up, I just pretended my post was like really important that I opened it there.
so I would like not have to follow her directly up the stairs and make any any chat whatsoever.
Like, which is such a weird.
It's so weird.
There's so much to worry about with neighbours.
There's so much here.
Before we get into that, maybe we should do the most adult things we've done this week.
So we can then just nosedive into our neighbours.
Absolutely.
Mine is that I have grown a colossal spring onion.
Are you sure it's not a leak?
No.
But honestly, at this point you'd be forgiven for thinking it was a leak.
I didn't mean to do it really.
It's just out on the window sill in a larger plant pot that's got other things on it.
If you put it in a plant pot, you did mean to.
No, I think I just sort of threw it away.
I think I just thought it would like, we knew I was growing.
I was trying to grow it in a shot glass like you do.
And then I was like, oh, God, this isn't worked.
So I think I just thought, oh, I'll just compost that.
And by compost it, I mean, I'll just put that in that plant pot outside the window.
Yeah.
Got it.
And then, lo and behold, it starts growing like Jack and the Beanstalk.
And then I think, oh, it's just a thing.
It's a spring onion.
And then it grew, like, honestly, half a meter tall.
And then it got a dandelion head on the top of it, like a flower.
And I was like, holy heavens.
And then it's grown like a second, like a brother.
And that thing is, I would honestly describe it as sexy at this point.
It looks like a sexy.
It's, I can't describe how big it is and how, like, hench it looks.
You can't say you've got a hench.
Sanch sexy spring onion.
I'm sorry to say that's all I can.
I know, you're right, you're right.
And I can't describe it because I find it breathtaking when I look at it.
So of course anybody receiving this information orally isn't going to know.
Do you have like a normal shop bought salad onion spring onion?
Sure, sure, sure.
For scale.
I think that's what's important.
Otherwise you'll just think that's a spring onion.
That's an onion.
It's very good.
It's not adult because I didn't even mean to do it.
It's just done it completely of its own accord.
I think it's adult.
Thank you.
You didn't even mean to and you grew a massive spring onion.
Because my mint is out there.
You know, I was wanging on about how easy it is to go in mint.
No, dead.
That's gone.
That crop has been washed away in the deluge.
That's gone in the rain.
Oh.
And now that there's only a rosemary out there just hanging on for dear life.
And that's the state of my arable farming.
That's where I'm at.
It's not bad.
Thanks, it's not.
Thanks, man.
You did a good job there, I think.
I personally believe.
Thank you.
It's, yeah, farming is a learning curve.
What is your adult thing this week?
I after, I think, I want to say a couple of years,
but I think it's more like 10 years of every summer just being like,
that's not hay fever.
So you can shut up, you wimp.
I've got hay fever.
I've always just thought, no, I'm just sniffing.
It doesn't really make me sense when I'm saying it out loud,
but in my head it does.
Basically for about two, three months,
I had bright, like the whites of my eyes were bright red.
and I just had a cold.
I started taking Puriton,
pyrotis, because my sister was like,
because I was like, I think I said something like,
I must be really annoying to have hay fever at this time of the year,
while with bright eyes and then bright red eyes.
And she was like, you look like you're dying.
And I said, no, no, I don't know what this is, actually.
This isn't a hay fever.
I don't know what this is because actually,
if you've got hay fever, they're really itchy.
And then about two hours later when we're at the dinner table,
and I was just like, it.
I was like excavating my eyes.
She was like,
and you're saying your eyes aren't itchy?
And then I thought,
I've now just presented all the symptoms at her.
I look like an idiot if I don't take this,
I've taken it.
It's done some sort of job,
but now I join the ranks of people who say things like,
ah, high pollen count today and things like that.
So I need to start being like,
I've got this.
This is what I need to do to it to help it.
Well done.
Rather than being like, yes, but I'm just weak.
I'm just a piece of shit, so don't, I don't need those things.
So there we go.
Sorry to hear that.
Me too.
But on the positive side is I can distract myself with befriending my neighbours.
Oh yes.
Take your complaints and your sexy spring onion and see if anybody living on either side of you would like, or above or below you, would like to hear about it.
Number one, people like hearing about people's medical complaints.
Go around and just describe what's going on.
with your snot. That's the best way to make friends. But the reason that I want to do this is because,
yes, there's these lovely people who live next door. And we moved in a couple of months ago,
saw them when we're moving in. And then immediately I was like, I wish they weren't cool,
because now I feel like we should do something. Like I just were like, shall we go for a drink?
But I didn't. Also, we couldn't because it was in the lockdown. And then, to add insult to injury,
they've got a lovely little dog who lives next door
and there's a they share, so the balcony is like bisected by
a little bit of frosted glass and there's a little gap
and the dog Sandy likes to just stand there
and my dog Piper stands there too
and they both cry because they want to see each other.
Oh my God.
And so I thought, well this might be good to do like a dog play date
so said to the, and you know whenever it was like Sunny
we're like, oh hey and I go and they're like, oh they should meet.
Oh my God.
We took them for a little dog play play.
It was lovely.
It was like 15 minutes or so because they were working from home and I don't have a job.
So that was fine.
But that was like two months ago.
And now nothing else has happened.
And I'm like, oh, maybe I was really annoying.
And they don't want to hang out with me anymore.
Oh, okay.
What I'm saying is that the problem with making friends with your neighbours,
there's many issues.
One is that what I've said before,
which is that they're in their house.
And the house is the house and the flat is a place where, like,
like you don't have to socialise because that's the one beauty of being at home.
So then having someone being like, hello, do you want to hang out?
It's like, not now, please.
Yeah.
But also there's a constant thing of like, oh, but should, but am I being rude by not?
Do you know what to mean?
So you're constantly balancing this thing.
And people are very nice to their neighbours in terms of like,
you're just kind of like civil and like, oh, hey, unless your neighbours are awful.
But you actually don't get the usual cues that you would because no one wants to say
what they actually feel because if they did,
then you're living next to them.
So if they were like, yeah, it's not really for me.
You can't ghost your own neighbour, is what I'm saying.
Oh, yes.
And exactly what you're saying.
Like the social cues are not existent because all you ever get is then for 30 seconds
a day where you say like, hi, in a very high pitched way, which means like, don't engage
me.
And then you shut the door.
And so it's very hard then to guess from that whether they actually would like more,
you know, like what you're supposed to.
I'm trying to invite.
I'm very interested.
in the two gentlemen who live on the ground floor.
One is they are perhaps 70.
One is a puppeteer.
One is a agent for puppeteers.
He owns an agency called No Strings Attached.
Oh, yes.
I want to know so much about them.
They are both professional Father Christmases.
Oh, my God.
We've had one really good chat where I was like sat on the stairs.
And now I'm like waiting to pass them so I can say, would you like to come to dinner?
But I sort of worry about them walking all the other stairs.
So I really what I mean is can I come to dinner in your house and hear more about puppeteering?
Really hard because they can't say no if they wanted to say no.
Because what you'd normally do is if somebody was like in your sphere or work or I don't know, in your life was like trying to be a friend.
and you just, for whatever reason, it wasn't your vibe.
You can do things like, you know, be a little bit aloof in the nice way,
but like you're not replying constantly and, you know, all of that sort of stuff
and kind of being like, oh, I'm kind of busy.
The problem is that you're going to see them every most days.
So if you're like, haven't replied, you know, haven't replied to them or they haven't replied
to you because they're like, maybe it's not, they're not,
they're not, is enthusiastic about you coming around for dinner.
And I'm not saying they're not.
I'm sure they absolutely love it.
But what I'm saying is that's the problem is when you ask,
do you want to come around for dinner?
They are almost like they are legally obliged to say yes, regardless.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Because if they say, no, I can't this week,
you're like, well, we live, we live but yards away.
And you sort of haven't got any excuse not to.
Also, what if on that night you hear them in their flat?
And you're like, oh, they were just in their flat.
Oh, right, yeah.
They were busy.
Oh, God.
Christ, okay, right, how are we going to get around this, Stevie?
I'm glad you ask that.
Obviously, there are no hard and fast rules with neighbours,
because all neighbours are different.
The things that you can do,
probably the best things that you can do at the start,
is to give them opportunities to step forward
to see what they feel like.
So, for example, which is what I did with the play date thing,
it was like, oh, yeah, like my dogs are hanging out.
We should go to that little park or whatever
and just like, you know, fine.
And that's, that I think, is the right thing to do because you can see whether they're up for doing that, whether the amount of times they go like, oh, we can't do this day, we can't do this, we can't do. Whereas it was really easy to sort out. And so we just did it and it was fine. The problem then becomes like the next stage, which is like, do I keep, do I do that, do I say that again? Or is that I think you kind of have to do the face-to-face thing and read their cues because that's the only way. So with your father Christmas,
puppet men, the next time you see them and you have like a chat with them on the stairs,
whatever, you'll be better judged and better able to see if the conversation naturally goes
towards like, oh, we should like hang out or we should, maybe we should, you know, do it like around
and using, using seasonal things, for example, Christmas is a great time.
You're like, oh, well, they're busy, of course.
Well, they're busy.
Oh my God.
Okay.
For every other name, that would be fine.
For the two professional father Christmases, perhaps not the greatest time.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
But that's like, well, it's July.
Like, what am I going to do?
What am I going to just pick any?
Do you want to pop around for the Queen's birthday?
Orangeman Day, Orangeman's Day, I think, is coming up.
Whitson.
I think, I think it's like, Wassailing.
Loads of things.
Of course.
So if you see them, if you see them, I don't know, do they have like an out,
is it an outside space in your complex?
No, there's no, no.
They actually, they're on the ground, they actually have their own
bit around the back. So I rarely
see them.
I would just be, I just will be hoping for it
in the, in the, in the hallway.
Yeah, you kind of want to do that thing where you see them like coming
down the road to go home, you like run down
down the stairs, pretend you're doing your post.
I don't want to come like smashing down the stairs, dripping and sweat.
Hi, how are you?
Yeah, I guess I just have to let it happen naturally.
Don't force it. I'll just wait till we next pass.
Chat, chat, chat.
Yeah, but it is, yeah.
And then you can do a very, and you have to.
to do baby steps.
So rather than being like, shall we have dinner together,
you start with like, I don't know,
I've just baked some,
I've just baked something.
Do you want to have one?
Oh yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, you're right.
For example, we had too many dog treats.
So I like put the dog treats in an envelope
and put it outside their door.
What I could have done is knocked.
I think that's a thing is,
I think that's very crucial is like what you could do
is knock with your dog treats,
especially if they haven't got a dog.
No, if you, if you,
you've got to,
you've got to not do the British thing of being like,
I just let these for you.
You've got to be like,
and I'm knocking and I'm gifting it.
Like my...
Then you can gauge,
then you really can gauge the response
because like they knocked and brought Sandy round
within the first month.
And I was really like,
we were like, oh, that was so nice.
They just knocked and brought their dog around.
Like, how did they know we were?
But that's what people do before phones.
And also like my friend Monica is Canadian.
And when she lived,
but she lives here.
she first moved into her block of like a converted house so there's maybe four floor flats in the
building she baked some cookies and then went around to everybody and knocked on the door and she was
like the response was honestly like I was mentally ill like that was what the British people were
like when they were like what are you why are you here what are those again she was like cookies
like and like because she's like that's what Canadians do you know like that's how people
greet their neighbours they come and they don't just like leave a lasagna on the doorstep and
flee, they like, they go around. Like at Christmas, I did leave presents in everybody's pigeonhole,
but I could have gone round, you know? That's so lovely though. So you've gone one step.
So that's actually good, because if you're, if you're very British about it, you may be one time
leave it, but then the next time not. So you've like built up to it. So you've already done the
present. So people are expecting it. Every year now people are expecting it. Yeah, well, well,
that's the thing. Like precedent had been set because
nobody particularly did anything when I first moved in
but admittedly it was March 2020 and it was illegal to knock on anyone's door
but then in the summer I don't know where they got them from
but I think people have allotments maybe in my building
and somebody came and knocked on the door and was like plums
and I was like yes I would love some plums
and then my mum has just started growing potatoes
so then when I went home she made me a real like
wrapped up in a Hessian sack like fucking lot
last of the summer wine shit, like, and made me a potato thing.
And then I went back to the plum lady and gave her potatoes, you know.
So then it was like, okay, here we go.
You've established a little rapport there.
A bit of rapport that we pass, we pass the fruits of our labour to each other.
So I guess it's that sort of you've got to have a thing and a reason.
And the more that it can be like, oh, I got sent too much of this thing.
Or I've got too many dog treats or these are some plums.
I've got too many, was you like, I've got too many plums.
They're going off.
You know, it's got to be that sort of thing of like, here,
I am here. So you don't feel like a lemon for being like, oh, do you want this?
Would you like a plum? Would you like? Yeah. And everyone's like, okay. But if you say like,
oh, there are too many. They're going off. Would you like them? You know, it's like, of course,
I'm just giving them away. You're doing me a favour by taking these plums off my hands.
But really what you're doing is, is building, is building friendship?
When you, if you go away, you can knock on your neighbour's door and just be like, is it okay
if you see any parcels and stuff outside of my door? Yeah. Is it okay if you just pop, pop,
pop them anything in year in year paulway and i'll i'll get when i get back if they go no fuck off you're
like right fair enough we're not fair enough if they do there are way there are things and and then
that might lead to being like you get you exchange numbers so that you can communicate about that
and then you've got like a line of communications then then you can WhatsApp them and say
I've got too this is a mad thing I've got too many plums would you like some plums because then as
well that's you you you are then you're chatting I think I'm going to have you
be out by saying, I think you've got to just knock on the door.
I think if you walks out, I've got too many plans.
Of course. But I mean, sorry, of course, of course, of course, of course.
I think knocking on the door is like the best thing to do to establish that line of communication.
When I'm saying once that has been established, you can also, then you're treating them like sort of friends, really.
Then it is like, oh, are you going to be in later?
Because I've got some stuff, it'd be nice to get, oh, like, I've got some mold wine or I'm doing a little thing.
Like, I'm having a little suorret.
you want to drop around and then they don't have to.
Because it's always fun when you're in dinner party and then the neighbour dropped around and
everyone's like, who's that?
You're like, I don't know either.
But it is also a nice, it's also nice.
The thing is, this is maybe it's a very personal thing to me, but I tend to fill in the
gaps all the time of when, so when somebody isn't, even like a friend or something,
isn't particularly communicative to me about a reason why they've done something or whatever.
I'll just fill in the gap and that gap will always be that I've done something to upset.
it's never that person's been a dick.
Even if they've literally been like an absolute asshole,
I'll be like, because I was the asshole first.
So constantly.
And I think that's the thing that you've also got to be aware of
so you don't go over the top and be a bit hysterical.
Is that like people have got stuff going on in their lives.
So the reason they haven't, you know,
WhatsApped me about a second dog play date
is probably because who knows what's happening?
Well, I've lost the job.
The crucial thing is that you haven't messaged
them about the dog playday either.
But I did the first one so I don't want to be the person that keeps going like, hey,
can we do this, hey, can we do that?
Because I think it's unfair to impose myself.
So it's like, I've done one.
So I was like, so I guess you do the next one.
Two, let's go.
Two will do.
You know, let's go two.
Two will do.
And then after that you can be like, you know what?
Fair enough.
What about two, two than you?
Oh, two than you.
Very good.
So like you set precedent.
Maybe they're just over.
And also I think the thing to remember is that in this.
last year and this goes for not just namers but everything everyone is completely bonko everybody is
mad no mad there is no point being like oh my god they were weird and off like yeah no shit they've
gone crazy everybody's mad so like so don't stress too much about people's like weird social
behaviour or weird thing they did or did not want to do like everybody there was one thing though
so when we went away i just wanted to get your just gonna judge this thing on that when um we
went away, they collected our parcels for us, which was so nice, because I actually
what's up to being like, oh, would it be okay if you? And she's like, we've already done it.
And I was like, oh, best neighbors ever, so lovely. When we came back, the guy had knocked on
the door to give the parcels back. But when he knocked on the door, I was in the middle of a very
intelligent and I might say a very insightful monologue about the porn industry to my boyfriend.
Because we've been talking, because there'd been a new story about it. And I've been like,
I can't remember exactly what it was.
But I was just being like, go on, we're all, we're all ears.
It was the classic thing about how like,
was it about the male gaze?
Essentially, yes, but it was about, yes,
how the rise of that is meaning that then it forces everybody
to feel like they have to look a certain way.
And my point was it wasn't just women that were feeling like that.
It was everybody.
And then knock, knock, knock, knock.
Yeah.
And knock, tiny knock, tiny, tiny knock.
Also, very open plan, open plan, flat, tiny knock,
porn industry diatribe.
Hey, oh, thank you so much.
And he'd come in late because he was working late.
And he was just like, oh, yeah, see he think he's like,
oh, it's the postman.
Bye.
Close the door.
Says to my boyfriend, I was like,
how loud was like, you were talking loud?
I was like, you were talking loud.
They heard something really weird,
like me saying something like, I don't know, like out of context.
Like, I don't think it was out of context.
Also, it sounds like it was a discussion that you probably would have had
with them, I think it just sounds like an interesting discussion about things.
So what you're saying is I go round and I say, let's talk about the board industry. What I'm
saying is don't worry about it. That is such an unnecessary stress. Once again, stewing from family
guy wearing the tennis shorts to the murder mystery. You know, there is a murder taking place.
Everybody is being killed. Stewie the baby is wearing tennis shorts. And his entire narrative while people are dying is
that everybody is embarrassed about his tennis shorts.
And he's like, I'm wearing the wrong shorts.
Everyone's thinking it.
And then he keeps coming in rooms and people are like crying.
And he's like, is everyone thinking about the tennis shorts again.
And so like that is the metaphor for this situation.
And also just like this whole pattern.
And everyone's like, everyone's thinking about my tennis shorts.
No, they're not.
That like, and even if he did hear you, he probably thought,
sound like an interesting discussion.
And no one would judge you for.
Having a discussion in my own home about the issues with porn.
Exactly.
It's absolutely fine.
It's important.
And also it's like it's just a dinner table discussion, you know.
I'm saying don't worry.
That's an example as well of filling in the gaps.
I think that's where the neighbours' situation can make you feel more aware of what you're doing,
more aware of what they're doing.
And also as well, like you feel like you constantly, oh, should I, should I be?
Should I be?
Actually, the answer is no.
Chill out and you maybe like have specific, if you want to form a relationship with people who have
specific times that you kind of are like, oh, okay, well, we're both getting our post together,
have a chat. You'll be able to gauge from that person whether they would like to spend more
time with you. Also, if they don't want to be friends with you, Stevie, that's fine. You know?
Yes. Yes. That is fine. It's difficult when you move to a new city, for example, though,
if there's any people listening who are like, they don't, and you actually, it's a great way
of actually having actual friends. Like, that's a, so it's very difficult because you're like,
well, I want to be friends with you. And it's like, well, I want to be friends with you.
And it's like, but they might not.
Like, and I think it's just like in everything.
I think it's like, is the two will do or two then you works for both ways around.
That like maybe when the, he came around with the post, you could have been like, oh, do you want a cup of tea?
Do you want to come in?
Like, do you want to, you know, that was like as soon as any of these.
Do you want a cup of tea?
Do you want a cup of tea?
And then because a cup of tea is like inherently quick.
And, you know, even if you were invited to the cup of tea, you'll be like, yeah, I'll have a cup of tea with you.
And then you can be like, I've got to go on it.
You, a few episodes ago when we were talking about how to be a good host, say that you hid beer and crisps under your bed. So you could be like beer and crisps?
I'm always available. I'm always, that's the thing. I'm always ready for any eventuality. I don't drink tea and I don't take beer. But my house is riddled with the stuff lest I could invite the father Christmas is in for a cup of day or anybody.
Yes. So I think it's about just like, you know, take any opportunity.
to expand the situation of like you're passing, complimenting them on something.
Oh, those are lovely.
How did you grow that thing so nicely?
Blah, blah, blah.
Here's your post.
You want to come to, you know, just like setting the thing go.
But then equally, and then do it twice and then leave it to them with the dog walking
or whatever.
And also if you're, and then be like, hey, no stress.
Maybe they don't, not to say like it's not personal.
Just like maybe they don't want to hang out with anybody.
Don't stress about it at all, but nonetheless put the effort in in the beginning for two
times, two full attempts at it. And then you can chill out and be like, and not take it
personally and be like, hey, no stress. No, it doesn't matter. Not a big deal. You can just be a friendly
acquaintances. That's absolutely fine. Yes. And those nice things like you're from Monica,
it's like if you're taking around some stuff that you've made, I think it is such a cultural
thing over here that if you do that, it's like, oh, you've immediately go, but I haven't brought
anything for you and like, you've invested so much now. What do you want me?
And what do you want from me?
Yeah, but luckily she can flippantly be like, I'm Canadian.
That's what we do.
You know, and everyone's like, okay, fine.
So you maybe need to be like, I'm Canadian even though you're not.
Or like give yourself some.
Or it could be like, oh, I made these for a thing and I made far too many.
Just like give yourself a nice relaxed out.
That is, there are too many plans.
I've made too much of this, you know, that is like, that doesn't just be like,
I brought you these and I need you.
You know, be like, chill out, you know.
Everyone would like more companionship in their life.
but you don't, don't bring too much energy to it.
It's just like, yeah, if it is, if it, you know, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be,
if it's not, it's not.
You don't have to force the issue.
But it's lovely at least to try.
And just to, you know, if even you're like, oh, they're really boring or they're mean or I don't want to speak to there.
And obviously if they are properly dreadful, don't go out of your way to do anything.
But like, like, if you're just like, oh, I don't really speak to that person,
maybe the cup of tea and you discover like, actually, they're so fun and nice.
And like, you found out something about the person who doesn't really speak to anybody.
and is actually really, really interesting.
And it is nice, nice to be nice.
It's nice to be nice.
So you can offer things as well.
You can be like, oh, yeah, I can take your post when you're away if you want.
Oh, do you like your dog walking if you can't do it or whatever.
Like I saw that your milk was left outside because it's 93.
Yeah.
I can chill it for you.
Exactly.
And then it's making sure that we get that fine line of two will do.
You've made two nice offers.
And then that's enough nice offers.
Yeah.
Extend the hand of friendship.
if it does not wish to be shook,
extend it, retreat,
retract it.
Just be civil and don't worry about it.
Yeah.
And yeah, I've got to go make,
I've got to go get too many plums now.
So I can, I can always have too many plums.
Because famously they don't go off.
So that won't be a nightmare.
That's exactly the point, Stevie.
I've got to have too many plums and then give them to everybody
because they were going off.
And then I try once again in a few weeks because I've got too much cake.
that I've made with their name on it.
Got too much cake.
It's a whole cake that's just been untouched.
Yeah.
It's too much of it.
It's too much of this.
It's for you.
Show your neighbours,
your plums.
You've got to have something.
You can't just go and knock on the door
and actually with your friends.
Because essentially that is what you're saying,
but you've got to have a reason or a purpose.
Got to have a reason.
Otherwise,
unfortunately,
it's weird because we live in a weird time
where we're not allowed to say what we actually want,
which is please be my friend.
That would be nice.
Look, I think it helped me,
but I don't know if it helped anyone at listening.
If they've like just out of interest Googled me or something and like seeing them got a podcast and listened to it and they listen to this one, I'm going to kill myself.
So if you hit me again, you know what's happened.
Also like don't freak out that they're the coolest people in the world.
Like you just want to be friends with your neighbors.
That's reasonable.
They are really cool though.
If you're listening the puppeteers in the ground floor, I'd really like to hang out.
I think you've got some cool stories and I want to hear about it.
I think they are a novel waiting to happen and that's what I'm obsessed with them.
They're too far the Christmases.
Anyway, so I hope that has been some help.
I hope it gives you some confidence to be nice, to not be, to bury that British, less British, more Canadian, more plums, more stuff, more bits, more anything that you can think of as a reason to go round.
And then chill out.
Yes, then don't fill in the gaps. It's all fine.
Please do email us if you have any episodes that you would like us to tackle
just so that I don't keep bringing my own problems.
Personal crisis to the table.
Yeah.
I'm obsessed with flat four and I want them to be friends.
If you have managed to make great friends with your neighbours,
if anybody ever did anything nice for you that made you think like,
oh, that's cool, that's a nice thing to do.
Or if a non-British neighbour, you know, it made you feel more at ease.
and less sort of incredibly repressed.
And you thought, oh, that's really cool, actually.
I'll start doing that.
Do let us know if you want any top tips for neighborly friendship.
Yeah, tweet us at Nobody Panic Pod.
We'll retweet them and email those episodes, suggestions.
And just like, yeah, have a lovely day.
Have a lovely day, neighbor.
It's a lovely day in the neighborhood.
And it's nice to be your neighbor.
Go forth into this week.
Be nice to people.
And we'll see you next week.
See you next week.
Goodbye, neighbors.
Goodbye.
