Nobody Panic - How To Move To A New City

Episode Date: January 22, 2019

Got wanderlust? We got loads of tips from people who've moved to new cities to work out exactly how to do it without moving back home immediately. Also Tessa drops some truth bombs about Jafar. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.

True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true, Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. New beginnings, new life, new start, new times, new country, new city. Maybe. Now.

This episode is actually dedicated to, to all, to everyone. To Jesus Christ, our Lord. And to Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savi. And then sidebar, also to my friend Joy, our friend Joy, who is moving to San Francisco for two years. And... I wanted to say something like, The City of Light, but I don't know what, the name... I think it's a lot of hills. Okay.

Yes. It's a very hilly. It's a hill, Cobb-Hillb Hill. Fantastic. genuinely. There you go. Throw that into conversation, Joy. Some, a lot of sea lions.

I did like a tweet saying, like, you know, thinking, oh, maybe some people have some tips. And became so elf over, so elf. I'm an elf. Became so overwhelmed with the amount of responses on Instagram and on Twitter. So thank you so much. I'm going to try and, like, give you a shout-up for all your tips. But there were literally so many of them that if I haven't,

then I'm sorry, but I'm thanking you in my heart and my soul. It's obviously a big thing. It's a hot, it's a hot, once again, we've hit on enough of a hot topic and obviously a lot of people are doing it and a lot of people have a lot of advice that they wish they could send back down the line. Yeah. They're like, oh, I only could realise this once I got here. Fertile ground.

It's fertile ground. I've got in October, I went to America for three weeks. It had to come home early. I think if someone knows about moving their whole life to New City, it's me actually. It's me. It's me. But I didn't do any of these things, you know. doing this podcast has made me realize

so hard to take your own advice. So hard to take your own advice. So easy to dish it out. The amount of times that I've said something and someone who has listened to or just seen that of some of the podcast is like, I think you've had a podcast episode on that. I'm like, yes.

I know. And I'm very vocal in it as well. It's so, so easy to like boost someone else's confidence or to say, obviously do this or like it's so easy. Just quit, you know, or any of these things. But it's so hard to do it yourself. Then you come home early. You have to come home early.

Number one, if you need to come home early, do. You can. Oh yes, why not? Why not? I think so. Just, you can. It's not, you know, it's not compulsory. You haven't failed at anything.

You haven't failed anything. You're just moving somewhere else. And even if you are like, actually, I can't do this job or whatever. Like, no real. Just walk out. Just walk out the door. Ultimately, no real problems. Yeah, really.

Will you look back in 10 years and go, oh my God, I can't believe. No, you're just like, great, I did a thing. Okay, forgotten about it. You do you. What adult thing have you done this week? Well, I have been trying to get up. This is good. Yeah.

Thank you. Genuinely, that's a good one. So I got myself one of those loamy lights. Like a light box. Yeah. Okay. It's one of those like sand lamp things. Yes, got it.

For some reason I thought it would literally be like the glow of the sun. Right. It's not. It's just a light. Okay. That comes on. But it is quite nice to look at. Does it wake you up?

Yes. There we go. So what more could you ask for? Absolutely nothing. That's what it's job is. You can get at the higher end of the price bracket They also come with a DAB digital radio. Okay.

And so you can also wake up with the radio. But you could just use your old radio and just time is time. Exactly. Exactly. It's very, and it takes like 10 minutes and it goes from darkness and it gently rises. So you wake up somewhere in the middle and then you sort of stare at it until it's all bright. And then you turn it off and you go back to sleep. Right. So I've, you know, try, I've been trying to do that.

And also I've been trying to go to bed very early. Good. Yesterday. Half a six. Okay. I see that's quite ambitious. Too early. ambitious

yes I've overshot out of the door but I have been trying to do that you know wind down no screens put the phone in the drawer read a book

you know all of this stuff great and I'd like to hear you progress throughout yeah I'll certainly be updating you next week I've thrown away the lamp I've gone back to John Lewis the box and the receipt is very much, he knows

he's on, you know, what is yours? Mine is, so I, um, we did an episode last year about how to stop using as much plastic. I think it was called something better. I don't know, to have a look. How do it go plastic free perhaps? Maybe. I just say, well, something like that. But you can't go plastic free

because plastic is in everything and then the moment you start doing it, if it's quite overwhelming and then it's like him a horror movie and suddenly wherever you look there's plastic and you're drowning in plastic, which is true because that's what we are doing. But I've tried to do little things incrementally. to try and help. So like one thing is I got given the present little tiny

knives and fork set which is in a little camping thing they're like proper metal they're not like plastic whatever and so I'll just take that around so I don't have to use that. That's absolutely lovely. Really good. Then you can't remember to wash it when you used it. Yeah. But then the main thing is that I'm trying to use plastic free like

soap, shower gel shampoo everything and there's this lovely company called Latherbox that do these bar one's a shaving foam, one's like activated charcoal, body wash, there's shampoo and conditioner. It comes in this little box. Basically like you just order it online and it doesn't have any plastic in it at all. I've used the body wash, I've used the shaving gel. I haven't yet used the shampoo and conditioner but so far absolutely loving it. And also like lasts for

quite a long time like I got it just after Christmas and I'm still using the body bar. Does that mean I don't shower enough? Does it though? No. I think no. I think no. Plus it an old block soap it looks like sort of wartime. It does. It's quite cool. I really like it and I just feel a little bit better. So, but also so I really liked it so I put it on Instagram like oh I love this and they sent you guys a discount code. If you go to the latherbox.com L-A-T-H-E-R. Like I'm lathering up on my soap

B-O-X as in what in a box! As in Quillif Boutre's head. I just like to chime in and say Steve's been saying that me for years and I I've just let her say it and then I watched the film seven and I didn't know what you were saying Oh my God

I just thought you were just talking I thought it's just fun to say it And I just let you say it Thank you for just letting me say it It's okay You must have lost your mind When I was just What in the bar

Yeah I was I was like oh wow It was earth all along It really came full circle for me It's a really really great film And I've ruined it for everybody If you haven't seen it by now Yeah well you should have done

So if you put in the code nobody panic or lowercase or one word, you get 20% of your first box. So normally it's like £19, which is not bad for like your shaving foam, your shower gel, your conditioner, and also your body wash. And our current rate sounds like it's going to last a long time. Yes. See you through the year. I hope people don't start tweeting being like literally used it. I used it twice. Yeah, I shower twice a month, deal with it. We're saving the planet over here. So yeah, and the discounted price is £15,000. So just give it a go. They also donate 10% of their profits to UK charities, cleaning up plastic in the sea and rivers.

Oh God! It's one of those things that if you have for money, I think just go for it. If you don't, fair enough, put it on your wish list. So yeah, I feel very good about myself. So, moving to a new sitting. Now, we've sort of broken it up into cat-hack-hat,

which is the word I use for categories. But I wanted to start with a really nice tweet that we got from Beatrix, who says, just throw yourself fully into it. Otherwise, you wouldn't probably commit to things like friendships and work opportunities. Oh, I'm in now. It's like when you get on, I'm terrified of roller coasters. Actually, I went to Winter Wonderland over Christmas and realised I'm actually terrified of all

rides. Children's Ferris wheels, can't do them. You're like, well, I'm on it now. I cannot get off this now. Let's do it. The experience is so much more fun. Often with the rollercoaster, anticipation is terrible and the being locked in waiting part is quite bad. But then once it's begun, it's almost ended. Yeah, exactly. I'm halfway through. surely. Yes, that was the general advice from every single person was. Get in there. Get in there. Put your big girl blouse and your big hat on. And just go and be brave and go out to the things and even if you're on your own and you're like, I don't want to go to such and such a, I don't know,

say the city's got there. Oh, they famously celebrate this. You're like, but that's something I want to do with my new pals of friends and I haven't got any friends. Like, look, come on, off you go. Yeah, do it. Let's go and do it. Well, that actually then, we should probably talk about friend making first then, shouldn't we? I think that's like often the most frightening thing. like you don't have friends in the new city. Because when you're younger, you know, you've got university, sometimes you've got fresh as week, or you've got like a new job.

It's set up for you to make friends. Whereas it's not. As a grown up, there's very few places that's like clear friendship building. It's done for you. So now you can do it all yourself and you're like, what? Yeah, I've not been told out to do this.

I just sit next to the person in mass. Yeah. And alphabetically, they become my best friend because our names are together in the register. What's wrong with that as a system? So I think the advice. advice is take anyone, anything it'll do. At the start, sure. At the early stage, anything will do. It's like fresh as week. Cut them loose later on. Anyone will do at this juncture.

And then anybody who you even might tenuously know, or friends of a friend, the loosest of acquaintances can be upgraded to Best Pal. Yes, Rosie Martin said on Twitter, going on Facebook and finding friends of friends of people you already knew was like, invaluable. And I think that's, I wouldn't have even thought of that. I think that's really, really clever. Yes. And just tell everybody that you know that you're going because one of them will say oh I know somebody who's there and they might be awful sure

but they'll have friends even though they were completely dreadful that was one evening where you went for a drink and at least you were out and busy and you went to a new place and like there is no loss here you know just take the bad friends so Rachel and quite a lot of other people recommended Bumble BFF

which I never heard of but so she said that you know she felt kind of sad at first being like an app for friends and turned out she made some really great people on so many people have said that that's a really great option, which I think you've got nothing to lose, like absolutely to do it. No, and when you're at home and you are surrounded by your actual friends,

the idea of a friend app, you're like, boring. Like, who would do that? That's the lamest thing I've ever heard. Only lame people are on it. Only lame people like you. Yeah, once you're in a new place, you're like, yes, please. And also everybody on the friendship app has also got on the app. You know, like you're all there. You're all in the exact same boat.

There's another thing called Girl Crew, that A.D. McCormack said it's really good for like book clubs and like dinner dates and nights out and things like in cities. There's a really good one in Sheffield as well but it's in most cities in the UK. Someone else said as well on that topic of joining an actual thing like class pass. If you're someone that exercises

don't just sign up to like the name of cheap gym near to you and just go on your own. Like basically you pay a certain amount of money per month it's not a lot and then you just go to a different class at a different place all the time. Just the chances of you like doing a hilarious yoga pose with a great girl and then you end up like

yeah, yeah, drinks afterwards. Exactly. A little bit higher. And even if not, you've moved to a different part of the city that you might not have seen before. Yeah. You've been busy for an hour. And you've got healthy along the way. The majority of it was just like, say yes to everything. Even if you're like, joining a sports club was something that, like, it's basically

saved so many people. But obviously if you're not on to sport, it's like, great. But if you are in any way, anything, even like something that you've never even thought about, like, fencing or archery or something. Yes. There's actually a big community. I mean, I don't know how cool

the people that do archery are, but you know. My sister is currently in Birmingham, which is not her home city. Sure. And she, I sent her to, I gifted her. I mean, you definitely answered. I sent her very aggressively to circus school. Right. And so she's learnt with a trapeze.

And while there, she made a friend. And the friend does the trapeze in the winter because it's downtime from Roller Derby. And now my sister has joined the Birmingham Roller Derby. This is excellent. Right? Roller Derby's great.

So there are like activities out there that aren't just football, netball, trapeze, the classics, you know. But you'll already know if you're like good at like football or netball or whatever immediately. Yeah. Because you did it at PE and you read the shit, I thought you were all you were. Yeah. But Roller Derby, you don't know. You don't know. Don't have a go at that.

You don't know. Get involved. Yeah. Find a niche. Someone said, Hannah tweeted me and said, get a bar job part time if you can. and I think that if a bar job, if it's like a night thing isn't your vibe or a wicked thing isn't your vibe,

because you'll replace that with cafe because a friend of mine, Natal, went to Copenhagen and she was kind of struggling to meet people and she got a job in a cafe and that immediately opened it up. Yes. Because everyone who has a bar job in a city is somebody often doing something else and is just doing it as a means to an end.

So they're often quite creative people. Yes, interesting people. I think when I was 18, I, well, for a left ago, I went to live with my auntie, in Vancouver and was quite overwhelmed with the like free time aspect because you've never really done that before

and suddenly sort of my auntie would get up and go to work in the morning and I'd initially you'd be like oh my god I'm lying in bed and I don't have to go anywhere and then on day two you're like okay this again novelty has worn off okay and then I was you know trying to get and then once I did have a job I was like oh we're cooking with gas off we go

and then you value your alone time you value being by yourself it isn't this overwhelming sort of oh my god now what am i doing yeah there's like a balance rather than the balance is actually just one way and it's you in bed not doing anything yes exactly which i mean i'm not a scientist but it's not good for your health yeah exactly so take any sort of any job anywhere that looks fun take you know take it just get make yourself as busy as possible especially if i think if you've moved for a job and i think one of the most horrible feelings must be you move for a job and it's in a new office and the people just aren't great and then you're like well no i'm screwed

Yeah, if this is my social circle. You could just do a part-time job at the weekend, which sounds like exhausting me over the top, but not if it's like a cute little cafe. In your brain, you're like, I'm just going to do this for a few months just to see if there are any friends there. Yes, yeah, or a volunteering job

or anything like that. They're just like fill that, fill it up. Void! Fill the void. Fill the space, just fill the time up. Casca said that in terms of like taking up a hobby, people always say, you know, say, take a hobby and you're like, oh, go, go back stuff.

But one of the nice things about it is you could, do something that you've already done before. So not only is it like a friend making thing, it's also a bit of a normalcy, like restoring things. You're like, well, I used to, I don't know, do yoga and back at home, so I'll do it here.

It'll be a different class, but there's something familiar about it that is so terrifying. I know what I'm doing here. Yeah, I can downward dog it, for example. For example. A lot of people saying, which is I think this is probably the hardest part, you have to do the drink afterwards. So when everyone's like after, you know, a trapeze,

I was like, we all go to the Green Man pub afterwards. And you're like, I would prefer to shoot myself. Like, I've done my thing. Yeah. Now I go home and I'm exhausted. Just say yes. You have to just go to this. Just do it once.

Then you can properly evaluate whether it was worth it and whether you should do it again. But like, just go once. It's one night and it's one thing. And then you have completed the experience. If you don't go, you haven't completed the experience. No, exactly. I went to you, those following my handstand journey,

will recall the time I went to circus school and I loved it, but they were all very, you know, on our first class someone was like, gosh, we all go to the pub and I just think amazing to be the sort of person who just confidently... Yeah, exactly, who just confidents that. And yeah, everybody did except me because I'm a boy. I was just like, no, thank you, I hate you all, and returned home.

I was like, I'm an athlete, I don't need to make friends here. But I do wish I had a bit. But I... You hadn't moved to a new city and you didn't need... I didn't need them, but I do sort of, you know, because then increasingly they all became pals and I was just the girl in the corner of couldn't do a handstand and didn't have any friends. You know, so it didn't bother me at all, but. If you were in a new city and that was happening, you have isolated yourself. Exactly. Don't be me, basically.

Because they're not, someone said on Twitter, I think it was Jen Kennedy said, and if you say no, people won't ask again. No, exactly. To say yes the first few times. And then in the future, you can be like, oh, no, I'm busy. And then you can like decide what to go for the first time. is exactly what you thought it is, which is everyone's completely dreadful. Yeah. You've sat and you've, you know, eaten some nachos for an hour and then you'd go home slightly later than you were planning to anyway.

Yeah. You know, like, just go. You've missed rush hour. You've missed rush hour. Just go to the pub. Go to the pub. Then in terms of like actual logistics, quite a few people messaged about where you live. Because I think that could be quite overwhelming into it.

It was when I was moved to London, I remember distinctly, looking at the map and being like, well, I guess I'll probably should. try and live in Waterloo or Embankment because that seems to be quite close to the centre, which I know to be Charing Cross. And then obviously then looking at the flats and being like, well that's a million a week. Okay, there must be... And just going further and further out in terms of looking up why you're going to live, it can be quite overwhelming.

If you Google like, is this place a nice place to live? It'll just be like a state agent's trying to get you to live there. But Emily Pugh said on Instagram, which I think is an amazing tip. Go on Mumsnet. because obviously they're obsessed with areas and obviously some of it is about the schools but they talk about the area in general and I sort of

had a little look the other night and it is excellent for that and also Miley Francis said local Facebook groups of the community not great for friend making but it's full of like local busy bodies who are just desperate to give you some advice about the area

and like show that they know so you can kind of like exploit that a little bit. Eifer said to watch out for football matches and football grounds. I used to live near Arsenal football ground. I'd really underestimate the hysteria every week. The bigger of the city as well, the more like, oh my God.

It's one of those things that was very, very hard to do the research before because you sort of can't get your head around. Yeah, and like London, you know, and you remember thinking that like Piccadilly was where everyone would hang out. Yes. I went to a pubbing Covent Garden

for the first three years of London. Yeah, exactly. Called it my local. Yeah. because well they are nice around there it's fine the chandos now it's full of to like now when you go to those areas it's just full of tourists yeah it's a weird place to go but you end up going to like I mean I've never actually been to a garfuncles but I could see myself in a moment of crisis going to cafe rouge I get a lovely little French place I found this wonderful place you know that you panic and you go to the places that look like big and welcoming and you're like well I guess this is London you know you still I still haven't found my lovely like you know, homemade dumpling place where a man knows my name and says the usual and I get, you know, where is it? Where is it? You'd hope it's near your house.

Yeah. Or I live above it in that, you know, in those, always in the rom-coms. You live like above this cheap. I lived above a food and wine shop when I used to live under a table in Hornsy. I would get a lot of chocolate to the extent that the man downstairs didn't know my name but called me Chocolate Lady. Well, that's half the dream, isn't it? That's close to the vision.

Four boosts. Oh yeah. Make good decisions for yourself. Like don't just take the first cheapest house share you can with 15 people in a warehouse that you haven't researched. Talk to the housemates before. Try and do some sort of thing. Even though you're not in the city, you can still Skype, meet them before you say yes. You can still, because quite a lot of people were messaging.

Maybe I just took the first thing and it was the cheapest and it was the worst thing I did. And then I had to like try and extrate myself. and I was under contract and I... Yes. A lot of people end up in close to crack dens. Or in them. Or in them. You know, we've all done it.

I briefly stayed in a hostel that was for ex-convicts. And it was. And it was. Wow. So go into things with a clear time frame that is short. So if you are moving into one of these places, be like, yes, I'm moving in for two weeks or whatever. And then if it's great, you can be like, I actually love it here. Brilliant.

And if it's not, you'd be like, I just need to get through two weeks. It's not that I'm like, yes, I've signed a contract for a year, perfect, brilliant. Even like six months is a doable amount of time. It's a long time. There's a doable amount of time to be like, I've actually found somewhere else. Or a friend of mine is we just lie and get out. Just lie and get out. And it's, if you arrive and you're like, an 18-month contract.

Yes, because anything is survivable in the short term. I just remembered when I first moved to London, the landlord used to let himself in, sit on my bed and read his mail. No, no, no, stevie. Yes. Yes. I've just remembered that now. No. Yes. that is genuinely a thing that happened.

Anyway, right, it's weird. It's like I dreamt it. Listen to your gut instinct that says, oh, this doesn't feel right? No, no. No, no. And then just, you know, get out of there. So let's move on to emotions. Absolutely. So many people saying, and one of them was Jess Smith, thank you very much,

saying, just expect to feel a bit weird for a while. You might, but it's unlikely you're going to move and suddenly it'll be like Bell and beating the bee. It's like, there goes the bigger with the tree. like always. You know, and then suddenly everyone's going like, good morning, pal! And you just want, oh yeah, no one's going to say

good morning to you. Apart from the rats. So it doesn't manage that expectation. So Claire Reid said, don't forget to take Marmite, which I think she meant because abroad they don't have Marmite. But I've also taken to mean

cook things that you recognise, like have food if you can. If you love crunchy nut, get crunchy nut or an equivalent. Like have stuff for breakfast, for lunch and for dinner. They're kind of ground. you. Otherwise everything is new sites, new sounds, new experiences.

We can't deal with that. It's too much. Keep something a bit new. My friend Claire, lovely Claire, who moved to Hong Kong. Oh yeah. And just up and went. Great. She did say, manage your expectations. When I first moved to Hong Kong, lots of people kept going to me, oh my God, you got the best time ever, in exclamation marks in Capitals. And I would say to myself, it might be good, it might not be, Some days might be rubbish, but that's okay, because life is about experiences. That's really smart. It's so easy to get into your head of like, good morning, Bell!

You know, and I remember age 18 when I were living with my auntie, I had it in my head that by Canadian Thanksgiving, which was like two weeks after I arrived, fully remember thinking to myself, in sincerity, well, I'll be spending that with my boyfriend. I'll be spending Thanksgiving with my new boyfriend and his family, and I really think that's what I thought was going to happen. I just was like, I'll meet him, you know. Somewhere. Somewhere. I'll meet him on the, you know, in the park or whatever. Will form adding, like, I'll spend Thanksgiving with his family, you know?

Yeah. That's a real thing I thought was going to happen to me. I think even if you don't know that that's what you're thinking, you are thinking, well, you know, I'll start to make friends after, you know, a month. And if, like, a month passes and you're still thinking it all over the place, that's very normal. Yes. There was a couple of people said some nice stuff like as in, in those first few weeks, that's the time to kind of be a bit of a tourist in your new city. and to walk everywhere

because then you get to know the area and the moment you know what's around you you immediately feel a little bit more centred. All of the things that we're saying in this episode I think feed into how to try to stop yourself feeling sad. It becomes like a project rather than just a thing that you're sat in which I think is frightening.

Someone said a nice thing about what shows that you used to watch all the time at home when in your new city. Again it kind of familiarizes you but she also said as well if it's a foreign language place and you are trying to learn the language watch something like friends but in a foreign language. Amazing.

It's going to help you pick up the language, which is good. And lots of people saying as well, don't feel bad about calling people from home as much as you need to feel like you're still connected with where you've come from. Try not to go back too soon. You want to put down your roots a little bit and feel like you've done something, feel like you've made some memories in your new city and that it's yours. But if you haven't a bad time, yeah, like call you your mate from home,

call your family. That's not lame. Like that's very normal to do. When we first went to university, I remember our sixth form teacher saying, don't come home for half term. Like don't come home in the October break. Okay.

Or reading week or whatever. Stick it out till Christmas. Even if you don't like it, just be like, I'm sticking this out. Because if the option is there to go home, you will and then it's harder to go back again. So like just stick out that first bit.

It's too soon, really. Yeah, it's way too soon. And you... So how long is that like was about eight weeks or something? Yeah, it's not. Yeah. So maybe give yourself that. Yeah.

You know, why not? you know why not Tesla's sixth form teachers as eight weeks take it eight weeks and everything's an anecdote as well

so when you're doing it think about like it's funny it's gonna really this is gonna really bring the house down when I retell it is terrible now let me tell you and if you retell and everyone starts crying

then yeah apologies you've had a bad time because there will be things to come back for there will be like weddings and birthdays and stuff that you have to come back for and work and Christmas and like you will have to return

so I don't get it in your head that like this is an insurmountable thing to do just one year or two years in so many years. This is not the end. This is not like where I'm going to end up. This is not... Yeah, because if your parents were ever lived anywhere else, sometimes they'll be like, oh yes, of course, we used to live in India. You'd be like, sorry. How did you do that? When was that? And it's just like a one sentence as part of their big, you know... Yeah, and actually was a massive deal

when they were doing it. That's true. Do you have any, any more, any more emotions? Just to never let yourself be so wrapped up in what you thought it could be that you find that huge gap between like where you are and where you would want to be. Just be like, well, this is it. This is it. This is what I'm, this is what it's like. Yeah, you can never compare it to a dream you have. Exactly. Exactly. So in comparison to my wildest fantasies, this is not. This is quite, this is quite weak, but it is, where you are is amazing in comparison to where you were when you were physically in a different city. You know, you're actually, you are here, you're what you are doing it. Yeah, and so many people never leave the town that they grew up in. And that's fine too, but if you've, if you've, if you've always wanted to

travel. You're amazing. You are amazing. Now, really practical stuff. I think. Practical business. Practical business. Things that I didn't do that maybe you'd like to is give yourself a week. Obviously because if you've just moved flats, there's a lot going on. But in that week, it's you like admin, putting your flag on the sand. When you put that flag on the sand, register with the doctors and a dentist. Yes. And also there's this app called Move It, M-O-O-V-I-T. Michaela said that she moved abroad and Move It Saved her

because it had loads of information on how to work the public transport and like, basically like stuff that you need to know when you move to a place, you're like, do I Google what's the bus in Boston? Someone called Grace tweeted saying that once she moved from Manchester to London, she was just fully freaked out by the buses because sometimes they didn't say the stop. She never knew where to get off. And like, city mapper is so important. If you live in a major city in the UK, I don't know if city,

is it like worldwide. If it is, then great. If not, it's in all the big cities. And it's amazing for just getting to one place to the next. Like it's perfect. not all cities have Uber, your city might be like a lift, you know, L-Y-F-T or my taxi, or figure out the public transport before you go on it. But also, what happens when the public transport breaks down? Yes, take a whole day to just ride the bus or ride the train system or just

like, with no pressure and nowhere to be. While you're being a tourist. While you being a tourist, just take the time to be like, oh, I'll go on this bus. Oh, okay, I'm lost again. Oh, I understand. I see. Yes, yes. Make sure you have a fully charged phone. Yes, yes. At all times in the first, I would say, yes. Get whatever data plan you need to get that has the internet on it all the time. Shit loads of data. Just shit loads.

And if you're like, but it's too expensive, forget it. It is not, there will be moments when you would pay £100 in cash to be given some data right now and you're like outside of Starbucks in the rain like trying to get tether or something. Like the industrial.

Just, you know, and you're so lost and just do it. I have done it for you. I have been there. You've been the no data girl. I have been the no data girl. And please don't be it. It's so hard. The simplest thing can kind of set you off

balance like when you get a delivery and then it'll be like oh go to your nearest for my oh I don't know where that is what does that so with things like click and collect collect plus as well those places where it'll just like a news agent need you can send your ASOS deliveries back because you've moved to a new place and you sparse some new shoes make sure you're aware of how the delivery stuff works and how like I used to go to Oxford Street when I needed anything because I'd be like well that's where all the shops are well that's where the business is and you might do the same thing. There'll be like the main town centre.

Like you don't need that every time you need to do anything. And also where the nearest hospital is, it's a bit dark but you need to know the stuff. Be ready. Be ready. Know all the stuff. Know all the stuff. Because you forget how many, much stuff you know when it is your home. Yeah, you take it for granted. You take everything for granted. And then to have all those things stripped away, especially because the first time it's ever happened, is totally discombobulating. Yeah, and it's about everything you can do to bollulate yourself more. Bobulate yourselves, ladies.

Final one is, just a nice thing where Charlene, Charlene Gandhi said, just don't compare it to home because it's not. And that's not why you're doing it. You're not trying to find somewhere that was like the place that you were before. You're having a new experience. And also don't compare to other people who have also moved to cities because what they're putting on social media, they're not going to be like, I've got no friends.

And the other day I went for a drink with, I don't know, my archery class, and they all hate me. Yeah. Like, no one's going to put that on Instagram, they're going to put like living my new life here's my new flat I'm on my balk okay lol that's what they're going to put and they are sound they sound awful yeah and they're but they're still crying themselves to sleep they are everyone's crying themselves to sleep guys whether they're not they moved to new city so just remember that every night of the week people um yes uh don't

compare and my last one was from claire um there was like be excited um it can all be completely daunting, but remember that you're having a whole new experience and moving to a whole new place. And crucially, after a while, a new city really does start to feel like home, and your real home and your old friends will always still be there. Yeah, absolutely. They're not gone. They're right there for you. Yeah, and this is just another chapter in the great book of your life. Okay. Right. That's come to a natural land, doesn't it? But yeah, hopefully that helped. And again, thank you so much for all of your advice. And if you're sat there thinking, I want to move to a new city, but I don't know.

Do it! Just do it. Life's too short. Jump in. Soon you'll be tied down with the old bowl and chains screaming kids. Yeah, you got to do it before. Go, you're well, you're free now. Just go. Yeah, go, go, move, move. Live your life, but it won't be, you know, it won't always be happy.

It'll be hard. But that's what life's like. Right, but what an amazing experience. What's amazing experience? Live it all. How exciting. I was going to sing a Disney song, A Whole New World, like Aladdin and Jasmine when they're on the thing

That's what it's like A new fantastic point of view No one to tell us know Or where to go And say they're only dreaming When you're dead Could be Could be

And they get off with each other Have you seen the new Jafar in the new live action No He's fit Oh is he Well he was fit in the cartoon No Des I didn't think that's up

Yes, he was. Okay, do write in if you think Jafar was fit in the cartoon. Yes, he was. Okay, that's so cool, because B2T is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure he wasn't meant to be attractive. I thought that was the fun. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, cool, cool, cool. I'm sorry, I got it wrong. But I'm so excited to see him. Tweeter's at Nobody Panic Pod, if you think Jafar is fit in the original. Or for anything else. At Tessa Cote. At Stvian, the S is a 5. Sure.

email us nobody to panic podcast at gmail.com thank you so. And for those who are doing it in a new city doing it. Yay. You're brave and wonderful and well done you. Well done you. And see you next week. Bye bye!