Nobody Panic - How to Socially Distance Yourself

Episode Date: March 17, 2020

In these Coronavirus times, Stevie and Tessa are socially distancing from each other – as should you be too! They explain why and also provide some good tips to help you stay safe while not going too crazy. This episode is brought to you via FaceTime from a living room and the stairwell of a hotel lobby respectively. Producer Ben did his best.Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive Productions.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Follow Nobody Panic on Twitter @NobodyPanicPodSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Nobody panic. We're doing it over FaceTime because we are. What are doing, Tessa? We are socially distancing from each other. Thank God. Nothing to do with the pandemic. It was a long time coming. I've had quite enough of that girl.

Thank you very much. Yes, we are doing this on FaceTime. We're being very technologically proud of ourselves. So it might sound a little bit different, but hopefully it's listenable. But look, it's a little bit difficult to listen to, what else do you want from us? We've tried really hard.

We've tried really hard. We're also going to keep this as non-scare-mongering as possible, so if we're thinking, I don't know I've got to cope with this, actually. Don't worry. We're not going to be discussing fact or misadmation or anything about the big, the old salty sea dog. We won't be talking about it. So this is an episode all about socially distancing.

We were going to call it how to self-isolate. And we've learned this morning that actually, Self-isolation is when you already have the virus and you are keeping away from everyone. Social distancing is just to protect others and quarantine is when

you've been exposed to it and you're now in the waiting period to see if you develop sentence. And as we've now discovered about the population, you are in one of those three categories. Yes. So we're recording this on Monday. So this is the most up-to-date

information we have obviously as everyone knows it's moving at quite a great and obviously hopefully the government is now going to start doing daily updates. It'd be nice to hear from them wouldn't it? It would be nice. I don't feel like two

podcasters the people need to hear. Also I've been watching the Crown quite a lot, the new series of the Crown it just reminded me about how nice it must have been to have genuinely like wanted to hear from the Queen and then when the Queen says something about something, you feel

a sense of relief? Because I just don't feel that. The queen could say something, I'd be like, yeah, right, shut up. Yeah, I wouldn't mind just hearing from, I think the only person I'd like to hear from at the moment is Obama. Obama, yeah, he's in some good tweets. He's in very, very calm tweeting.

So if you are unable to extricate yourself from social media, have a little look at his feed. It's just, it's just nice. It's just nice, good calm content, which is what we all need, because I've found very much lots of funny jokes, lots of good gags. It all does add to the kind of hysteria though, doesn't it? So sometimes it's good to step away from the gags. We're going to find the line between taking this seriously,

but also doing anything in your power to keep everyone around you safe and also saying calm under the certain stuff. Because all of this stuff, like this social distancing stuff and this quarantining stuff and shutting stuff down, it sounds very, very frightening. But it's, it's, it's, it's, It's not because of the virus. It's preventing. So it's all a preventive thing. But of course, the whole feeling is that of much more foreboding than I think. Basically, it's not going to be the apocalypse.

We're absolutely fine. We're just trying to keep each other safe. That's all it is. That's all it is. Yes. Yes. And I just want to say being throughout because I think a lot of people are now on board and everyone is doing this socially. Oh, no, they're not.

No. No. Okay. So if you are already socially distancing, then well, congratulations, and well done for staying in isolation. If you're not doing that and you've got a sort of lit spirit of like, I'm not afraid of this virus. The virus is not terrorism. It doesn't care that your spirit won't be bowed to it. Like it doesn't give a shit.

You need to stop going too fast. Yes. And it's not often because, you know, you'll get it yourself. if you're not immunocomprided, you know, that thing. This is this new word that I've never said out loud from I've seen a lot. If your immune system isn't compromised. Immunicompromised. Immunicompromised, there we go.

I had it, but then I lost faith. If you, if you aren't, then that's great, really great for you. You'll probably be fine. You'll just get some flu symptoms and then you'll be okay in a few days. It's because you could be walking around with no symptoms and give it to someone that could be hurt by it. So it's that classic situation of let's all try and look after each other. why is everyone in a craft beer bar around the corner of my house? It's that sort of situation.

Yes. And also, please, if there's anyone in your life I still isn't doing it and is still going to things and has this like, A, like, fuck it, I don't care, I'm not going to get it, or it's not as bad as you think, or it's just flu or whatever. The reason that mass public gatherings are being banned is partly because of the spread of contagion, but mostly it's that we cannot put the ambulances there. We can no longer take the ambulances to the football games and the concerts in case there's an accident in the crowds because the hospitals are at capacity.

And so this is an attempt to, it's not just saying like, oh, everyone will get the spread of infection at these games. It's saying we cannot protect everyone from all the other things that happen on a day basis without the virus. Like the NHS was already struggling before. But in like a chill way. In like such a chill way. Like so chilled.

It's a very chilled way. We are giving the country the best possible chance. We are. Well, we are. me. You knew. Yeah. Look. Yeah.

But also, the instructions will literally just stay at home. Like, it's what I know. Dreamed off. So, you know, I think it's that thing like, you know, when you want the party to be cancelled, you're like, you love it. But when the government cancels your party. Yeah. You're like, I'm nothing. I never want to have anything warned to go to this party.

You're like, stopping you dickhead. It's two weeks. You know, like, let's do. let's do this right now. Yes. And re-assess. So for God's sake, stay up. But can I bob in and say before, if you, of course, got to say it, if you've got a high

temperature above 37.8 degrees, say, or a new continuous cough, then if you go in now, you're a big bell and you're a ginormous bell, you've got, that, that is self-isolation and you then have to. And if you have symptoms, then the NHS has guidelines of self-isolating. So do a bit of a cheeky goog, have a look. And there's a big list there. It says some mad things like, make sure you use a different bathroom to everyone else in your house. And you're like, oh, cool.

So this is just for dukes and earls, fine. But you're supposed to say two metres away from people and all this stuff. It's like, cool, cool, cool, how would like a single mom or anyone with flatmates or just anyone be able to do that? But some of the people are very, very helpful. Well, so if you, a sentence or otherwise, like, don't visit your elderly relatives, maybe stay away from your parents. Don't visit anybody that's pregnant. Like just, you know,

judge to be, just for God's sake, just don't do it. But obviously, lots of people are in a position where they're their only carer for an elderly person or, you know. So, but this is, you know, if you are able to, then for goodness sake, do it.

Yes, and just washing our damn hands. Now, I saw a good tweet. Oh, no, it wasn't even a good tweet. It was actually, I just saw a good thing that Tesla wrote in our handy document plan about the World Health Health Organization, Van the Millennium Bug, Tessa, please take it away. Thoughts are very good.

Oh, thank you. Well, the World Health Organization is doing a marvelous job of getting nice, calm, information out. And also, I mean, I don't think they'll ever meet individually anyone from the World Health Organization, but what an incredible job they're doing. It's just a brain in a jar. It's just incredible that there are actual people out there doing this on a daily basis and the same lives.

And, you know, oh, God, well done to the hall. they talked about how in these sort of extreme situations, the best case scenario is that this looks like an overreaction. And so the best thing that can happen here is everyone says, remember when we're absolutely mad about coronavirus, to stay in our house or nothing happened. That is the absolute best that this can go, because it's an overreaction.

We'll never know. But if we underreact, we will absolutely know how badly we fucked up. So the example happens all the time is the millennium bug. And that's the thing that everyone jokes about. And we're like, remember when we all thought everything, the place you're going to fall up. It's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I'm like, and then nothing happened. Nothing happened because the thousands and thousands of experts and professionals worked on it for a really long time.

I worked really hard to ensure that nothing would happen. And before, it looks like an overreaction. And so, you know, it's not, it's like, everyone being like, well, I've survived this. We're absolutely fat. You survived it because somebody more smart than you. But you didn't do any coding. You did not do any coding in 1999. No.

It was trust that somebody, like people who have dedicated their lives, like the spread of pandemics and viruses, all of those things are telling you to do this. So like, please, you know. Yeah. And let's hope that we all love about this and say, like, oh, wasn't it stupid? We all have to stay at home, watch the soprano. I can't imagine.

I'm going to have such a great laugh. Oh. What a laugh. So let's get into some tips and stuff because what I've found is I've got a couple of friends who are struggling. actually to socially distance. I imagine when they get, or if they get symptoms, then that's very easy, isn't it?

It's almost like when you're, I remember a friend saying, it's so much easier to break up with somebody when they've like cheated on you or something because you've got a reason, whereas if you do have a reason, you're just like, I don't know why. So the social distancing thing is almost like that because you're like, well, do I stay in? No one's specifically telling me to.

And it can be difficult to do it if it's something you're a bit frightened of if because you're not very good at being alone and you're a bit worried about just sitting with your own thoughts and so some people I know I'm starting to kind of be like yeah I know I should but I think I'd go mad so I'm just sort of continuing life

and I've had to be like oh don't so if you're one of those people and you're like I'm a bit frightened of socially distancing because I need people otherwise I go a bit mad or like I don't know what I'm going to do because I think it's very easy for some people to be like cool I just stay at home and watch the

Sopranos but some people are like oh shit So I just thought, I've spoke to somebody on Instagram yesterday called B. Hartshorn, who was giving me some absolute banners of advice for people that can, just like a couple of tips for people who want to still see people, but without seeing people, you know? You know? And did you know about Netflix party? Am I the only person doesn't know about it? What is it? Oh my God, I'm so thrilled because I thought, maybe I'm just a big old grandma. So Netflix party is an official thing that Netflix has. You just Google it and you can, you can, you, you can. instructions and you can have a by proxy movie and TV night with loads of people and it has like

a chat thing so you can like consistently like you know it's like a good old trashy bit of trash you can like chat to each other all the way through it and like you just look at that and then you can like get loads of mates involved and then you don't feel like you're watching TV alone because sometimes when I'm watching TV I'm like but we'll talk about the twist that's that's wonderful some other things that uh just very quickly some of the things that would that I thought that I thought that I thought would be helpful for people that are struggling is things like Headspace, that sort of slightly wanky but useful meditation app. They do this grouped meditation thing where you know that loads of people who are listening to app and meditating at the same time. So it's like a psychological trick that

makes you go like, oh, well, everyone's doing it at 2pm, so I'll join in. And if Headspace is a bit pricey, because it is a bit price, I think it's like 70 or a quid for the year or something, the calm app is half that. And the meditations on there might not be grouped. But they're just in general are very lovely. And I think if you've got a lot of time on your hands, I mean, why not get into meditation? You know? It's certainly. It calms that brain.

And then the other thing, which I thought was nice, was things like regular FaceTime sessions with someone that you care about who knows that you struggle being on your own sometimes. So you can pick a time every day. Like maybe it's like over dinner and you have dinner with your mom because she's also self-isolated. socially distancing or whatever, and you pick a time and you do it like fairly regularly. You've got something in your day that's like, oh, cool, I'm going to speak to this person. And you also have someone to call if you are feeling a bit like, oh, I'm going mad. Am I real? I was supposed to be all day.

In the new world of technology, there is nothing to stop you from making dinner at your end, getting FaceTime up, putting it in the middle of the table, lighting a candle and having dinner with somebody. Isn't it so nice. And look, oh my God, moms and the parents will bloody love it. Yeah, just they can stick you at your place at the kitchen table, but your just your face will be there, it's the future. Trying to get as much routine or, you know, because you can watch yoga with Adrienne until the cows come home on YouTube. But if you can log into a live yoga session

and know that people are doing it at the same time, people who've got kids at home at the moment, teachers are running like live art sessions on Facebook Live, things like Periscope and Zoom and all of these new apps. That right now you're like, what is that? I suspect in a couple of days we're all going to be absolute professionals using them. Oh my God, yeah. They allow for live watching or something and you can all be in something together.

And so I think that just takes the edge away from you just watching things on YouTube alone and to be like, oh, I'm still part of something. So definitely. Do the aerobics class, everyone together, do the yoga class together, take part in the arm class. Yeah. And join in with all these days. Yeah, the idea of doing like a FaceTime yoga class with all your mates. Like at the point of doing it, you'd be like, like, at the point of doing it, you'd be like,

like, oh, amazing, this would be really fun. Then the moment you start doing yoga and you realize what you look like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you put your own camera very small. Very small camera. There's an app that I learned about talking of apps by Sean. No, it's not by Sean Clifford, but Sean Clifford, who's the sister from Fleabag. I think, that's correct.

She tweeted, so she tweeted about it. So go on her Twitter and you can find it. It's an app called Libby, which basically it hooks you up to your local online library. audiobooks for free, all you need is your library card. So if you're... How great is that? Amazing. That's amazing things to do.

On the subject, I think people, there is a real community spirit of people being like, okay, how can I keep whatever it is, I do go in, you know, so the library cards, and if you have an independent bookseller, give them and call them up or email them, get them to read to you down the phone. No, I was going to say, Twitter or email. or call them and get them to pay for the book over and get them to put it through your letterbox so you can still try to support your community and have things that delivered to you. We got an email crew that was like the borough that I live in which are not going to talk

about for security reasons, okay, but the borough that I did is send an email round with like that's being like we're organising a thing to, would you like to volunteer for people in your community who maybe have symptoms or are older and maybe need you to need some help. I was like, absolutely. I'm symptomless and I'm just sat here in my pants. And so I went through the thing and it was all like, can you drive? And I was like, no, do you have any skills? No.

Yeah. I've got some books you can lend and read. That's our skill. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, it is tough if you have absolutely useless to me. I'm a real victim of this because I found out I've got no skills. That's all I'm saying.

Yeah. on social, like, sort of check in on your neighbours, or if you don't want to obviously don't come up on their door or whatever, but, you know, put something, post something through their letterbox, just saying that you're the number and your number. I'm here. I'm here, like, very close to you. No, I'm just, you know, learn to get to know your neighbours and just just be there to say,

like, here's my number, if you need anything, like, let me know. And then maybe we'll get ourselves as close as we can to all the Italian singing, and singing opera on their balconies. I mean, that is a lovely video, but also someone, there's a lot of balconies near me. If someone started singing, I don't think I'd join. It's a real cultural difference. I think I'd be like, off.

I think you'd give it a go. It depends what they were singing. Also, I really like to imagine that it's this one beautiful moment, but then like someone's taking it very seriously. And then, guys, come up at the 8 a.m. rehearsal, please. And then, like, soprano's on the bottom floor. We could really like hearing you, actually. So, you know.

So, you can throw you off the balcony. for a bad note. Get off. I think obviously this is very serious and it's going to get more serious but I think there is extreme moments of hope that like just seeing how humans are rallying together watching the American health

service crumble in a way that my true hope is that like they come out of this with free healthcare and they see that their system is inherently fucked from within you know seeing that like climate emissions are down and the sky in areas like fights over Wuhan

where the virus starts like that the sky it's cleared for the first time in years and like all these small things that you're like oh okay I mean this is terrible but there are these small shades of light and hope and things that are happening yeah there's lots of lovely

lovely notes that are being stuck up on people's buildings being like I can walk your dog and I can get you some milk and I can get you so and it's really like oh yeah on the small very small levels this is what you're sort of happening now small kind of help.

Small acts of kindness and humanity is inherently selfish and fucked, but humans individually I think are ultimately good and pure and want to help each other. Definitely. Yeah. Okay. So we're back in there. So just to cover what the rules are about and social distancing and self-isolation and stuff,

you can obviously still go places. Like no one's actually going to, no one's stopping you going anywhere. Like so you still can go to the supermarket, you go to the pharmacy, you can go to all these places, just try and go at not busy times and, you know, try and stay away from people while you go. While you're in the supermarkets, obviously,

do not panic by. We are not going to run out of stuff. Like, it's not helpful. And for those people who can't afford to buy, you know, 200 toilet rolls in one go, and I'll buy week to week, you know, it means that they, the stuff isn't there for them. Yes.

So you don't need to stop by, ultimately the toilet roll class is not going to protect you. We need to help the most vulnerable in society. We need to be, realized we're a community and there's not individual. And also, like, there's so many, don't share pictures of, like,

the shelves running out, because I imagine about an hour later they got restocked. Like, we're a massive economy. Like, I'm sure Jessica's got more in the next day. Like, don't freak everyone out. And also, you know, independent supermarket next door, I bet, had all the things that you don't need to.

And especially support, I'm assuming you live close to a town you get your supplies from a town sometime but I imagine you have a Chinese supermarket or an Asian supermarket that has been I imagine extremely badly hit by this so if you can support them that would be wonderful and I bet they have loads of things

you don't have to go to the major big supermarkets Yes and yeah yeah definitely I went to a co-op yesterday and there was no toilet roll and then I asked I asked it back and there was some toilet roll that's happened to me three times. So it turns out, like, it feels very, people are acting very bizarrely. But the woman was like, we can't put any pastor out.

Because every time we put any pastor out, this man comes in and just buys all of it. And you're like, what is this man doing? Like, is he selling it on the black market? I wanted to mention about going to the gym and stuff like that, because I think like that's something that I personally, look, guys, I find it really difficult not to go to the gym. I don't.

But I do find it difficult to not move about or not leave the house, like, just physically. I feel, I start, like, not sleeping and start getting quite, like, jittery about stuff. And I found this, obviously, the gym is a hotbed of, it's a hotbed of germs anyway, the best of times. Let's, let's be honest, so many men sweating and screaming. But if you don't have any symptoms, if you don't have any symptoms, the NHS says that you can go outside. So start having a run, having a walk, going to the park. Obviously, don't have a walk around your local park. I just mean like far away from people in the notes.

Tessa said, just start lifting bits of wood or whatever. Just go find some wood and just lift up a little bit down again. If you can't afford any dumbbells, just get lifting those locks. Just get some lugs before some cans, some heavy things. Yeah, it just dumbbells. It nature's dogbells. If you go on YouTube, you can find there's a body weight exercise. and body weight is just things that uses the weight of your own body,

so you don't have to lift wood if you're like, I don't want to lift that bit of wood, you know, that's the option. Yeah, I would just suggesting it that, like, I know it's very easy to suggest running, but if running is if you're saying that you miss, whatever it is that you do at the gym, I don't even know any of the names of all the bits. Yes.

So I can't, the cross trainer. Yes. You know, you can. The pulling system. Set up your own rope. system in the park. One day, necessity is the mother of invention that you're going to find, you're going to find, you're going to find, but if you're not creating your own exercise, um, workout machines, then I don't want to tell you. What the fuck you've been doing?

Literally. Which, which, which, which takeaways are, yeah, into the main thrust of this, which is, you will have seen, if you are on social media, or probably you just see people, I don't know, regular, regular Joe's saying it out loud to you in the street. lot of people talking about how Shakespeare wrote King Leah while he was in quarantine. I don't even think that's true. And that Isaac Newton discovered gravity while he was like hauled up at Christchurch College sheltering from the plague. You do not have to do those things.

You don't. There's a lot of people. And it's such a mark of how inherently fucked we are as a society and as an economy that here is this time of what is essentially like rest and relaxation and essentially rethinking how we think about everything and everyone's being like, take this moment to make some more money, like, what can you monetise at home?

With the greatest respect, fuck you. Yeah, absolutely. Of course, obviously it's difficult because some of us who are freelancers have lost a lot of work, people are worried, which we'll talk about work stuff in, I think we're going to do another episode, which is how to work from home, but also we will touch

on it in this episode, but it can be very frightening. So yeah, you're like, shall I start a podcast with my foot, I guess. Like, it's quite tricky. I've also just, there's too many people on Twitter saying things like, well, you've always said that you needed more, that you'd write a book if you didn't have to go to work. And now it's like, oh, I'll be absolutely honest.

I think nobody wants to read your quarantine book. Nobody. No one wants to read it. Because I think the energy of the quarantine will see the story. Oh, it'll be weird. It'll be a very weird book. I think there's going to be a lot of erotic erotica coming out at this time about people who had to be quarantined with a village woman. Someone they thought they hated, but in quarantine they discovered there was an intense sexual connection.

It was a really funny tweet that I think I retweeted, but I really, really enjoyed about that exact thing, which was, let me find it, started writing my pandemic novel. It's about a literary professor at a small college who's going through a midlife, crisis and has an erotically charged affair with a much younger student and also there is a pandemic. I think really hit the down head. That's it. That's what they're all going to be. If you, I think it's something that we, and I speak here from experience that we always think like, oh, thank God, now I've got this moment, this time to do this thing I've always wanted to do. And actually, the pressure of having too much time can send you absolutely but nars.

Yeah. So don't, don't. I want to say it's don't. Don't try. Don't try. I put a little thing out on Twitter thing. Like, we've been doing this episode. Does anyone have any tips?

And what I thought was quite nice is quite a lot of people, Little Sparrow. I'm guessing that's your actual name. Or maybe it's an actual sparrow. Said that knitting is a really good thing to do. Because obviously, like, so knitting is that maybe you spoke into me personally because my grandma taught me how to knit when I was about 12 and I was like, boring and then didn't. And then those are my friends now getting into it and knitting scarfs.

I'm like, I kind of want to. but like when do I have the time? That is like, oh, I do have some time now. So I might just buy some wool and some knitting noodles on Amazon. Don't even know if you can do that. I'm sure you can. And then I might try and go on YouTube and find some videos that teach me how to knit and see if I can knit. And to be honest, I'm going to say the main thing is limiting expectations. I'm very much ready for that hobby to last for two to three hours and then I never do it again. But for those two to three hours, oh, I'm soaring. Yeah, I think that's soaring. I think now is the time not for mental, creative imagination tasks, like writing or finishing your thesis or any those things.

If you have to, if it does feel like, go, I can't wait to plead your quarantine botica, and I mean that sincerely. If I feel like, I don't care. Now is the time of physical things for knitting, for painting, for doing, for painting the bit of wall that you always, there's a massive damp patch and you always meant to do it. for fixing that door handle for doing small things around the home for doing a maricondo, for getting you for making a wardrobe. I'm just like binge listening to like, and I'm not, I'm not less so saying our podcast. I'm saying like a podcast. Go back for all the back episodes. Also, we do have some fun episodes about things like how to be creative or how to,

I'm trying to think of specific ones that I've been like, oh, that would be helpful. Can't think of any. Sure. But there are some ones that I think would be quite useful if you're, you're sort of knocking around the house and trying to think of stuff to do. And there's loads of great podcasts. If you're not, you will know the thing

that will cheer you up, like, mine's reading, books. That just makes me happy. So like, I've bought loads of books because I'm like, well, you know, if I'm starting to go about antsy or being a bit frightened, then I know. And also, they're very specific books as well. We're talking page turning magical fantasy.

That's what we're talking. I'm not learning about any history or anything, or purest apism. But also it can be quite helpful as well if you're worried about what you're going to do with your time is to make a little list of things that you know make you feel bad sometimes. Like, for example, mine is if I wake up really, really late in the day, for whatever reason, I just feel really like bad. So obviously that happens, but I'm trying to mitigate against that by like saying an alarm at like around 10. So I'm like, that's cool. I got up.

I thought of I could get washed. Maybe I won't. But at least, like, I'm sort of like trying to basically make sure that I don't fall into bad habits early on. So I don't feel really sad. And I don't sit on Twitter for eight hours, which is what I did the first three days because I was at home home. And I just, I sat on Twitter and then I went to sleep at like 5 a.m. every night. It was like, I don't know if this is sustainable for 18 weeks or whatever that's saying. Yeah.

And if you, and we'll do, we'll be able to do this and we'll definitely do the podcasts. But the headlines for working at home are getting home. get dressed. Yeah. And ideally put shoes on. And they can just be trainings, but just be in my... I really think having... I wear, like, full sportswear.

You have full shoes. See, I wear my full shoes. No, just having a trainer's on is the difference between being like, okay, I'm doing something as opposed to like I'm padding about. Mine's my bra? If I put my bra on, like, bra means business for me. Very, very right. Very right.

Yeah. And I think you don't have to obviously put your, my... I don't have my bra on now, by the way. I don't know what that means. I'll be honestly, but I can see you on face up and that is a parent. What? No, it's not. I can only see your chin and see you growing back on the johns.

I'm covered in boots. There's boobs everywhere. This is always a good one. But again, I actually don't do it and I find it's fine. But it's to separate your work space from your living space, which I think is very good if you have lots of space. I think, again, I think we are saying, oh, that's a boring one, but it's probably good. I'm sure it works. I prefer not to.

Of course, but look at the state of us both. Yeah, good point. It's a strong point. But now you can't because you can't go into cafes or, you know, with the sort of you've got to be socially distancing. So you can't go into cafes and places like that. So it means that that relies on you having some sort of study, which look very few people have a study so if you can't do that don't worry just try and affect it in some way so just don't essentially don't wake up put your laptop on and then just work from your bed don't try not to do that if you can help it yeah don't make your commute just moving your arms uh to get a laptop from the floor and then plopping that on your chest and it's sweet let's be absolutely honest we've all done it

We haven't mentioned a very important thing that's very important. I mean, we've mentioned the obtaining of it, but what about food? Someone tweeted the Noby Pannock account, which I thought was very, very helpful advice. Lauren quickly said, don't eat all of your self-isolation snacks within an hour of buying them. And I think that is a good, I've started to eat weird shit because I've decided to socially distance. I'm suddenly like, oh, yeah, no, I can eat meals whenever, and I also will own me cereal. It's like I think part of the maintaining a routine is like try and maintain normal eating routines so that you don't also because if you eat weird then you just feel a bit off don't you just feel it all over the place. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you will just have like you look listen you'll eat a lot of toast and you'll start drinking like like 12. Okay. It's a bit of an insight into you. how yourself supposed to be. Look, let's, don't pretend you've not done it.

So I just know that more that you can try and you stick to this routine it'll, you know, it is the most,

it is, it's what's going to make a difference and keep you set during this process is the, is the routine. And also, you know,

if you are living with other, with housemates, with partners, with anyone, obviously this is going to be a testing time for any relationship of a divorce rates

coming out of the lockdown areas of China are very high. It's very funny. I'm really fun and funny. So just like be communicate, not to communicate, be very clear at the beginning and be like, this is my plan for the working day, I'll be sitting in this part of the living room,

you, why don't you work over here, I need my space at this time, I'm just like find those things. If you are, as many people will be in a house chair with people possibly from the internet that just you don't like, again, I'm just like, like do your best to communicate to be like, I'll be doing this and you'll be doing that.

Please leave me alone. Please leave me alone. Otherwise you'll feel, you know, not only quarantined to your husband or so quarantine to your bedroom and having to like stay out the way of your shift the housemates and everything. Yeah. And so, you know, lots of walks, lots of FaceTime, lots of, lots of finding that, just talking it out. Just, you know, just this is not the time that has progressed WhatsApp. this is the time to like to sit down to be like what do you need to do to work in a day? Where do you need to be?

How can we help each other? But also is there a possibility that you can, if you do have family who aren't immunocompromised and you're able to practice some good old destination washing, which my mum's obsessed with and I'm into, which is when you arrive somewhere and that's where you wash the hands. So you're like never bringing it into anything. Sure, I've stripped off all my clothes, put them in the laundry and had a full body shower and washed my hair. That's the sort of things I've been doing when I've been on the table. Perfect. Before you touch anybody, that's a little bit. Yeah. Great.

Oh, last thing about the economy. Okay, of course. Very questionable, though. A couple of words from me there about the budget. No, okay. It was about, just on the subject of food. Yeah. And your local area, like, perhaps you're like, but mine, you're so worried about your local a pub or your local restaurant or your local whatever and your feelings like but I want to support them. I want to still go out and help them like you know the thing is no and things that you can do are

you can call them up and buy a voucher for a meal that you need to use there in the future. Yeah. Get takeaway if they are doing takeaway. I'm sure a lot of people eat if they don't do takeaway you'll be transitioning into that and restaurants that are trying to stay open. And so there are other ways of supporting people that isn't you, physical presence. What you're trying to give is money, there are other ways of doing that and the voucher for using in the future. It's a great way of doing that that it doesn't just feel like a donation. That's actually directly from Ed Gamble. Oh, an off-manu podcast.

From off-many podcast who talked very eloquently about how, obviously, this whole podcast is about supporting restaurants and so. We're saying, we buy a, buy a voucher and to use in the future, which I think is such an excellent idea. And so there are, there are creative that we start just to these sideways of things. There are creative ways of doing stuff. Look outside of the box, guys. Look outside the box. Yeah. It's the time you think outside the box. There are loads of things that we haven't covered, obviously, because there are things that we just don't know about. And also I think, like, as well, there are lots of situations that we can't cover because we, I don't know, we just don't know about those things. And obviously, it's very,

very hard if you have parents who are having to work or you are having to go in and work and you're worried but what I would say is just overall it's not as bad as the hysteria on social media is making it out to me it really isn't and it's also not as good as the people telling you that you're just being a load of hysterical nonsense it's somewhere in between so don't yeah take this seriously but don't freak out and again I see you saying that we're discussing this in this very like what if you get too bored like working at home whereas there are people supporting, who are the only financial source in their family, being like, fuck, being bored, how are we going to pay the rent?

Yeah. I don't divide how and go to work. And so now is the time to, if you're on a contract, obviously, it'd be like, I need to be doing this job for playing. This is dangerous to everybody, if you worry, if you do something free, freelance to be able to say, is there a different way I can do this job? If you're an employer, can you find a way to, and I don't imagine a lot of our listeners, are the CEO, but if you are, is there a way for you to be supporting your workers anyway or

paying my friend? Yeah, pay those invoices. Pay those invoices. It's going to make a real difference to people. And if you are in crisis, like, now is the time to get in touch with your landlord directly and say, like, you know, can you waive your rent this month? I think it's something the government are going to start bringing me in it. It's happened across Europe and say, like, just talk to them person to person to be like,

I can't pay this right now. I will be in the future, but please, can we, you know, can we just cause this? Because the more you ask, then the more demand there is for it, you know, the more we ask. Yeah, the, the people start saying, you know, and especially if they cause the more, if they cause mortgage repayments, but not rent, but that's insane. And don't just put yourself in a situation where you're like, I have to go to work, you're like, okay, who can I tell by these bills? What can I do?

What's another way around this? How can I keep my family safe and not be like, oh, yeah, like don't be forced it to making yourself sick till you can pay the bills. It's, yeah, nothing is a bit more damning on the state of the world than people feel that in that position. Yeah, terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible.

That's my thoughts on the economy. Look, there were good thoughts. You are basically an economist. And I'd like to have you on. I'd say if there's a dream running for office after this. Let's start on like an end of like a happy note. Positive is not like that. There is a lot of people helping that there is huge,

hope out there that it is, you know, that we really can take these steps. And again, like, you know, people have made enormous sacrifices in the bus and I think we can sit on the so much, you know, that this is, we're really, I think, making a genuine difference. All I'm going to become a breakout TikTok star, just so everyone knows. TikTok is actually a wonderful place to be at this point because there's very little coronavirus on TikTok. It's still just like ducks crossing a road. and their bums are waggling to a fun hip-hop song, essentially. I'm going to become a dancer on it.

Oh, that's really great. Well, do you have a TikTok handle? Not yet, but I will. Oh, great. Wow. You're making bleeps and down. I downloaded it. I couldn't understand this first screen.

Understood. I'm like, I'll leave that for a moment and go back to it at my leisure. But I'll let the world know, obviously, once I'm available on TikTok. It's quite funny. I might get into Twitch and become a video game streamer. Oh, look. Wow. So you are monetising your time at home, because isn't Twitch like you get paid to play games or something? I have no idea. I'm so old.

But who wouldn't want to pay to watch me try and shoot a horse or whatever on? Big time. Yeah, I would watch that. My boyfriend played it and he was like, look at this. And he kicked his own horse in the face and then his horse killed him. well I think that's the yeah anyway so come and join me on my

Twitch streams imagine if I become a sexy video game girl I'm sexy now could be don't know there's a lot of options there's so many options

I'll just be mainly looking at my own foot but that can be sexy too I will be we're ying and yak in here I will be monetising this hard lot of more of a deconation

Okay. Well, I hope it helped in some way to hear Tess's dreams, Tess's thoughts on the economy, and also some of our tips. If it's all a bit much, just distract yourself, just try and stay helpfully distracted, but well-informed. That's it. Healthyly distracted but well-informed is exactly the path we're going to go on. And please do, if you get bored or whatever, tweet us, you know. We're, we're. I want to say I'm not on Twitter, but I've very much am. I'm just trying to limit it. Just like a smartphone, I imagine I'll be on it relentlessly. Yeah, covered in glass. Yeah. Covered in glass.

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Fuck you. I don't read the emails. It's not my call, that you reply at such speed so that I don't read. Also, I've got involved in a scan and had to chase the email

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