Nobody Panic - Still Panicking: How to Deal with Sunday Night Blues

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

Still Panicking: Summer is drawing to a close and a new term is about to begin, so this week we look back at Stevie and Tessa's top tips for easing back into school/university/work life.So, panicking at dusk every Sunday? Tessa and Stevie come up with about 17 mnemonics, acronyms and slogans that don’t make sense, but (thankfully) lots of tips that do, to try and help you combat end-of-the-week gloom. This episode was first released on 14 June 2022.Recorded and edited by Naomi Parnell for Plosive.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.

True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true. Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Hello, 200. We've got a trombonist in.

And a trumpeter? We've got them in from the... They're new. They haven't played their instruments before. And God bless them, I say. They're trying their hardest. And there's the drummer. Glitter cannon, glitter cannon, sparks, bits.

Oh, my God, it's a cake, Stevie. Oh, it's a cake. 200 candles. This is our 200th episode of... And apart from this, we're not really going to mention it. Yeah, no, I just thought it's nice. It's nice, isn't it? I mean, I didn't...

Producer Naomi reminded us. Oh, I've been counting each one by the day. I know. You've been notching it on your bedpost. On my bed post. That's nothing else goes there. Let me tell you that. That's a weird thing to say, isn't it?

No, that was very sexy. Yeah, this is our 200th episode of this podcast. What's been your favourite episode? Not of this just of anything. I like to season three of a very... I was like halfway through. I like the community episode, the paintball episode of community.

It's really good. That's a really good one, yeah. Okay, well, so today's episode is about the Sunday Blues. It is. I will share one thing, only because it came in today, and I thought, auspicious, arrived this morning.

It's not particularly exciting. I think it just is a marker of like, because sometimes it is just me and you hanging out, and then sometimes we get emails from people. You're like, oh, wait, we've been of some use, you know? It's so nice to think we've been of some use. Right. And absurd.

It is absolutely absurd. Really fun. I think that we've been of use. This is from somebody who titles their email, Bonsois, both. Oh, I like it. Oh, I like it. Bonsoir to you. Just wanted to share my adult thing, which is I took myself away for a long weekend in Paris,

inspired by your episode about how to go away by yourself. Oh. I was freaking out about my first solo holiday, but I re-listened to the episode on the plane, and I've had the most liberating time doing exactly what I want for two whole days. Now, I've sadly not met Gabrielle the chef from Emily in Paris, but there's always next time. I'm currently sitting in the hammock in the window of my Airbnb watching a thunderstorm, feeling so pleased that I did this. So thanks for making me believe that I could. Oh.

Isn't that nice? That is nice. And that's all for you. If I may come straight back at you, Tessa, please. Because it is, of course, a competition. A message that we got last week, in fact, which really made me very happy, which is, this is Anne on Twitter,

and she said, I won't read the whole thing, but she said, your episode, How to Smash Public Speaking, when you introduced the ideas of hoops and how we don't have to be the world's best jumper and jump through them right, but just get through them the sneakiest way possible, ladders, etc.

I remember that episode, has made scales I wasn't even aware of, popped right off my eyes with my brand new 2020 vision. I'm seeing jump-assisted hoops everywhere and it's been a real revelation. That's so nice. That's lovely. It's like little, when I've had that when I've been listening to something or reading something, it's like a little bit of advice where a little thing has really got me and I think

about it all the time. And it's nice to think that weirdly we were that for somebody. It really is, isn't it? There's a fantastic podcast called, I'll just spend our time now promoting other podcasts, if I may. Off menus, very good. Very good stuff. I've been something called Pug

by Kate Bland and Jacqueline Novak. Pug is goop backwards. And it's a sort of... They're both very, very funny, but they are quite sincerely discussing wellness. But in one of the very first episode, they say, well, of course, the ego wishes to seek, but never find.

And it's about our obsession with, like, we want to research stuff, we want to get things right, we want to find the perfect cream, but then when we actually find it, we're like, next thing, you know? And I have been saying it to myself, but daily.

So imagine something we have said off the fly. Off the hoof. Off the hoof. Off the fly of the hoof and now people think of it. Mad, hey?

Mad. Well, that's not self-congratulating for now. That's quite enough of that, thank you. We're British. Imagine we're like, and that's enough

and we're off. And we're off. It's just a bonus episode to say how good we are. Right. Today's episode is, I think this is an episode suggestion,

very close to my heart. It was an email from Charlotte. Hello Charlotte. How do we deal with the Sunday night blues? I used to think this was just me, but I've noticed that even people who like their jobs get the pangs after two sweet days of freedom. Is this just something we live with? Or is there a way we can make Sunday night joyous? If anyone can answer these questions, it's you too. Charlotte, that's so nice. Unless the answer is just that is universally shit. No, I don't think it is. And thank you so much. Godspeed to you, Charlotte. I think it's a great one because, I mean, who doesn't relate to feeling suddenly that feeling. For me, it comes around 4pm. When's your Sunday night blues? But when you used to have a job. I still get it now, to be honest.

I was such a goodie-to-shoes at school. Right. They actually really liked... I loved school. Yeah. So I really didn't have this on a Sunday. And, whereas I know some people had it horrendously. What about work?

And I didn't have it then either. Right. Okay. You're the first person I've ever spoken to who doesn't relate to this. Well, it looks like I'll be doing the heavy-lifting version of us. So you don't ever after Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, the thought of getting up at 7 in the morning to go to your commute, to go to the office, and do, I'm just, I mean, I just did some blowing there.

That's because I was cleaning my glasses. It was very powerful, but I just put, happy over Friday night, Saturday night, and then you're off. No, you're absolutely right. I think, I think I just, you're absolutely right. It's a work thing that I think it's, for some people, I just know it's so deeply entrenched. in school.

Oh, is it? It's not entrenched in school with me. So a lot of people, it just touches back, immediately sends them back to this like very intense thing about how much they hated school. And for a very specific, a niche group of people, not niche, but a small particular group of people, the people who had to get back in the car and go to boarding school.

Oh, God, yeah. Who, and it was this physical being removed from your home, you know, back there for the week or to your weekly boarding, whatever. For them, like, Sundays are like, true. And so a lot of stuff has to, you know, all this sort of childhood stuff comes up every single Sunday. And so for a long time I did remember thinking that I, so I always just thought myself quite lucky that I didn't have it because I liked school. And also at university Sunday night used to be film sock. Oh, that's nice.

In the hall. And I went there every 8pm and I would have a pint of Coca-Cola and from the bar. And then there was a little tuck shop. Yes. Right? And like it was just, and you know, about 10 pence, you got a little bag of sweet. We were the famous five. Yeah, we were the famous five and off you went. My Sunday is actually my sort of my favorite day because I like all the things on a Sunday. Oh, I love Sunday, yeah. But I mean, I just mean when you had a job that you didn't like.

When I get the jobs I didn't like, the evenings, it is this horrible like, here we go again and it's five more days of this. My very worst one was when I was doing my NCTJ, my national journalist. some qualification in Clapham College and I lived very, very far away from it. So it took me like an hour and a half to get there. And you had to be there very early in the morning and I really did not like it. And I was in trouble for back chat a lot. And I had raised my, I had a lot of opinions. And I remembered that and I was very, very hungry and very, very sad and very, very cold.

And I do remember the Sundays just being so bleak of being like. Yeah, I think that's the thing. don't think it's a, well, for me, I don't get the residual feeling. Yeah, uni Sundays were very nice or fine or sort of completely, what's the word? Because I did an arts degree, not really anything. I think when we talk about the Sunday blues, it comes down to like, well, what is, what is Monday to you? What is Monday to you? What is Monday to you, Steve?

And I think that's, we're hitting on the big thing here. It's just like, if you hate Monday, then by nature Sunday will be, if Monday is, I return to boarding school, I go back to the job I hate, I do the hour and a half to commute to a class I hate that's costing me money and I can't afford to be here, then it's this like, what am I doing and why? I really like my job, but it doesn't change the fact that I much prefer doing nothing and having fun overdoing anything. So Mondays will automatically be, even though I'm self-employed and can choose what I do to an extent, will always be, it's the start of the, oh I should be working mindset over the it's Sunday he he I can just lie down all day it's the beginning

of a panic attack of like I haven't done the homework yes yes oh no and it's and it's called anticipatory anxiety which is what a lot unless you have a very specific thing so unless you're listening to test and you're really relating to the ah yes it comes from school oh yes it's because I really struggle with my job oh yes like because also as well that you can have um when I when I worked and sort of roughly the same kind of job for like four years, that the Sunday Blues would come and go depending on what the week was like. So sometimes I'd be like, yeah, that's quite a good week ahead. I was like, I'm actually fine with it.

Or I would be desperate to not go in. And I just didn't want the weekend to end because I was like, I can't be bothered with what I have to do. There's too much or there's too. And there's also the fear, I think, that we want the very specific Sunday blues that I go, which is around sort of 6pm, which is the moment when I realize Sunday's over. And now it's the evening. And I'm like, well, I suppose.

I should go to bed early and do it. I get very worried on Sunday that I'm not going to be able to do the week well enough. That's my thing. So it's not even about not liking my job. But I think there's a very distinct difference because often with these sorts of things, you can. And I think I've certainly on this podcast been guilty of saying Blythe, glib, things like, well, if you're not happy about, for example, I could say now,

if you get the Sunday blues before work, change. you're going to have to change your job. You obviously don't like it. But actually, I think it's maybe a bit more complex than that. I think it's probably something to do with the fact that what we've done is we've made work, you know, Monday to Friday, work. And then we are only allowed to have these two days, and they are precious. And they're the days where you're meant to do your laundry.

You have fun time. Do all the things. And then you're quite tired after doing all the things. And then it just starts again. And I think that is that feeling of being like, oh, it just starts again. and the dread may be coming from just the way we've, the way that society is structured rather than your particular Monday. Absolutely.

This is going to be a misquote attributed to no one. But somebody in a discussion of capitalism was like, the greatest trick capitalism ever played was suggesting that you only work for eight hours a day. You only work for eight out of 24 hours. Whereas in fact, you are asleep for another eight of those. And so really you actually have the smallest amount of time of the thing available to you. And if you have to travel for your work, that's now on either side. And so really it's this like, it's only eight out of 24.

You've got a rapid bit of maths. Forty-five hours left for you. That's loads of hours. So like... Well, you realistically, yeah, you're happy to be like eight and whenever you go to bed. And if you get up at like six, you want to go to bed about half ten? Maybe some people do. And then you've got two hours.

Two hours. in that you need to do all of your admin and all of your business and your laundry and do do other stuff and so truly to have like to had a good weekend like to truly have like done an activity uh had gone out senior friends had a party gone to a barbecue gone rock climbing done some physical things cleaned the whole house cleaned the whole house done all your laundry done any residual work that you needed to really smash the week a plant i mean it's like that's impossible i need a weekend to get over that a week weep

so for me it is a it's a panicky anxiety that my desperate thing is like wishing to stop the clock it's like please could everyone can I just

Bernard's watch can I burn its watch this now please because I don't mind doing all the things but I haven't given myself enough time to do them and everything is I'm just always feel like I am being dragged behind a raft and I just can't ever stand up on it like I'm never just like in control

and it's never like... Well, this has gone from being like, I don't get the Sunday blues, where I'm really feeling it with you, and I feel quite nauseous hearing about it. They're really viscerally happening to me there. But, yeah, what of 180 I've gone through here? No, but I think also, I understand that,

because I would... The only reason I really feel like, oh, yes, no, I do get it. It's just because I thought it's Monday today, and I knew I was suggesting it today, and I was like, last night, I was like, oh, no, I am a bit like, oh, not that I don't want to do this

or I don't want to do anything in the week. It's just like, oh, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do. I wish to not do exactly the same when you come back off holiday and even on holiday for two weeks. It could be a month. It could be a week. It could be whatever. That bit when you've got to like start your days up again as normal can feel really hard because you're just like, oh cool. So it just keeps going now, does it? And I can until I book another holiday. And it's that. And then that's quite a depressing feeling. However, I think while there's no, I don't think there really is a way to actually. make you completely not care that the weekend is coming to an end and you will have to work again. Like, it's never going to go away because there is an end to it. However, there are ways that I think might be helpful, which are things like if you focus or have something definitely in place for the week, so on the Wednesday or even, you know, something after work or something, even if you're going to give yourself an extra special breakfast on the Monday.

Or you have to have something happening quite soon that you can focus on. So it's not about the Sunday. It's actually about what you're looking forward to because the Sunday blues aren't about the Sunday. It's actually about the week ahead. Look at the week ahead. Really focus. Okay, so what are the things that you're really like,

oh, not looking forward to? Can you change them? How can you make them better for yourself? And also things that you can always be in control of are things like, well, when I used to be in an office and I couldn't really afford to go out and have prayer or whatever, I would always, on a Monday, prayer or whatever, the cool thing.

Whatever you were having. Prater sandwich. But I was, Pratt for me still is the absolute bastion of luxury because I could never afford to eat there. A woman once came in the office with this huge, I can say strawberry, huge strawberry. that's nice tessa okay you carry on no she came in with a huge smoothie

she was just so casually drinking it like like it was just an appendage to her it was just a thing that she happened to have I was like if I had that smoothie I would carry it on a velvet cushion and I was like to me I was like the thought of being someone who could buy a smoothie I mean you're literally you're literally looking at her so on a Monday it was just a Monday I was on like 15 grand. That was my salary. A day? A day. It was nothing. No, I was on 15 grand, so I could,

it was basically rent and then I'd have essentially 10 pounds for the month. But I, and I would bring in food every day or like if it was an event happening in the, they called me the rat, because if there was an event happening, it wasn't even in our department. I would be there to collect the sandwiches afterwards so that I could eat them and then eat too many and then feel all sick and not do any work for the afternoon. Then I was the rat toddler. It was a, I had no, I had no dignity, really. But at the same time, I didn't have any money for lunch.

So I would get free sandwiches from events and things like that. Or I would do the thing where like, I think once I had like a week of rice with soy sauce on it and that was my lunch. The thought on a Sunday of like looking ahead to the week of rice with soy sauce and there's nothing to break up your day and you're sort of angry was, I actually, couldn't do it. So what I did was every Monday I was allowed to go to crush, which I think maybe is now

defunct, but... We couldn't support it anymore. I couldn't support it. On my 15 grand salary, I couldn't, I couldn't support Crush anymore. We couldn't keep Crush afloam, sorry Crush. Sorry, crush. I would go, but any smoothie place, or just anything that you like, if you don't like, smoothies, obviously don't. There's nothing as good as crush. So good. And I would get myself

a large, elaborate smoothie. And that was what I would get, to be honest, for lunch, and then be hungry. But that was just because of I couldn't afford lunch. But if you're listening and you're like, I could afford lunch. Get yourself, like, Monday work lunch should not be a working lunch. It should be a sacred time. A real treat. You don't think about the, you know, healthy eating plan you're on. You can have one. You can do one fun. Or if you're, you know, you've eaten nothing but fried chicken all weekend,

then look forward to having the most incredible salad. Go to one of them terrible places like tossed where it's like 50 quid for a salad. Just, you, you, you have, you, Allow yourself one really, even one, I'm not finishing any sentences, one really beautiful meal. And often what we do is we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and Friday, Friday lunchtime is that time where you're like, yeah. But Friday lunchtime, you're fine, you've got the weekend ahead of you. You just didn't need no lunch. You need it.

You need it on Monday. You need that good stuff. And that could be anything. And it's not just lunch. For me, food, I'm a very food-based woman. I mean, like, that could be like, if you're somebody who just, who like, I don't know, sometimes commutes knows that they should

commute on the horrible train but this time you're going to treat yourself to the fancy train or a car journey or you're going to walk or you're going to get the nice bus or the bus with the scenic route or you're going to, I don't know,

start a new podcast basically you have to look at the commute and the elements for me personally it was always the commute and lunchtime that were the things I could change and to be honest I only started doing the Monday I had a name for it in my head it was like

make it better Monday it wasn't that okay well let's try and help the people a bit more a little bit magic magic Monday motivational Monday Motivational Monday yeah um more Monday hard isn't it because if it's the Sunday blue

make the most of Monday make the most of Monday yeah that sounds like we run a very naff sort of mental health campaign it is naff though it's nice but you've got to have it now because you've got to also like you've got to Okay, bitchon Monday. Bitch in Monday. Okay, bitch and bundy.

No, I'm trying to make it alliterative. That just sounds like Bond Day. But also as well, not just you lunch, but you took, like, Monday evening, is there a way, is there a little thing? Obviously, it's so easy when you're, when you're saying things like this, and you're like, yeah, and then you get to the Monday

and you've got shit loads to do, and it's actually incredibly stressful. So then you can't, sorry, you want to light a candle, like I can't do any of that stuff. But if there is a little thing you can do on Monday evening, if you can't have a nice lunch or you can't make your commute to work, something.

Basically, you're all we're aiming for. It's something on Monday that you are looking forward to that you can focus on when you feel those Sunday blues. That's all that tip is. Could have been about a two-second tip. I've dragged it out for half an hour. And I'm not going to apologise, but I am humbled. Thank you.

I hope you are. I sort of by accident have been doing that. Last night I was thinking around the corner from the podcast office is a fantastic pokey place. And truly, last night I was thinking, I can't wait to get that pokey. Then I was like, and on the way home tomorrow, I'm going to go get my nails done. I've recently discovered Shalak.

Oh, yes. And then, final treat for myself, Travis Perkins. What's Travis Perkins? It's a lumber yard. I was like, I know that, Dave, I think I've seen it on a lorry. Yeah, okay, right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a wood merchant. Well, look, like I say, if you're motivated by food or you're motivated by wood, you know,

Whatever you're motivated by, you've got to, there's a lot of focus on these, like, how to beat the Sunday blues things, that all the focus is on the Sunday, poor Sunday, Sunday, you're not, you're not having the Sunday blues because you're like, I just hate it, I just hate Sunday evenings. That's not the issue. Not okay. You're worried about the week ahead. And so it's so, obviously do whatever you would like on the Sunday, have the best Sunday ever, of course. And may I, may I just sidebar is there for a second to be like, make sure you don't stop doing the things, make sure you don't let Sunday become this all-consuming but Monday is coming thing,

be like, sit with this, I'm like, what do I actually want to do? And is it hiking or is it just going to the pub? Or is it, you know, what am I actually, what are my dreams here? And if they are truly just to do laundry all day, if that is truly your dream, God bless you. You know, maybe that's your dream.

But like, you have to make sure that you're not just doing things. Because then you get to the end of Sunday, you're like, what was the, what's like? Yes, because you wake up feeling sad about Monday. Some people do, yeah, even on the morning. So make sure you've got your treats. Basically, what we're suggesting here is treats every day. Treats every day.

Treats every day. But also what I find doing the sort of boring household tasks on Sunday, very helpful because by the time Monday comes on, I'm like, yeah, I'll work because I don't want a fucking mop, you know? Sure. Mopping is so boring. Yeah. Amen. That helps too. Look after yourself on the Sunday night, so you give yourself the best shot of waking up feeling sparky on a Monday.

The other thing is I had a friend, well, I mean, I had friends to go out, go out on the Friday and come back on the Monday morning and go straight to work. because he was a party animal. But... And he was 21. He was 21. But the concept as well of like being really like drunk on a Sunday night, it's only gonna...

It's gonna make your Sunday blues worse. And like there's this like bottomless brunch. And like being day drunk on a Sunday. All that stuff like is fine. Day drunk, fine. But look after your Sunday evenings and use them to like make yourself feel better

and prep yourself for the week ahead. And I don't mean like prep. That sounds really boring. I mean things like time to do you fake town for the week. Have a great bath. Watch seven episodes of the show you've been watching. Really do something really nice to round the week off. So you're not just sat there on your phone going like, huh, huh. I make sure that we are focusing on embracing and not distracting, you know, that we're like enjoy your new slogan. My new slogan, Steve. Do all the stuff

that makes you feel good in your mind on a Sunday. And also as we go, as the dusk approaches, good for your body. And focus on the fact that it's not Sunday. That's, the problem. It's the fact that it's, it's just, it's a, it's a normal thing. It doesn't mean that your life is wrong. No. There'll be other markers, I would say, if you, if you're in the wrong job or you've got something going on in, in your life that you need to change. I don't think the only symptom will be Sunday blues. I think there'll be other symptoms going on. I think I've come up with an acronym. I'm really excited. It's about Sunday Blues is normal. Okay. Okay. So N. Yeah. It stands for normal. Right. Okay. It's totally normal. So don't

panic that you're the only person having them. Everyone's having them. Oh, oh, what's your job? Okay, I can really sense. I'll go, oh, it's ooh, something, but there's no reminder. I know, I know. Yeah, ooh, what's your job? Is it that I don't like my job?

You know, probably not. And also a good way of telling is to if you ask yourself, I can't with this on the way here, and it's not very clever. So I don't know why I forgot it. I'm giving it too much of a buildup. Oh, yeah. To figure out if it's just normal Sunday blues or if it's or if there is a problem with your job, when you get to your job, are you, like,

is it normally fine? Is it just, is it the idea of it is worse? Because often that, that's the thing, like, for ages, I was like that. I'd be like, I'd get the Sunday blues, but what, when I was in the office and stuff was happening? Like, it was kind of fine. It was just the thought of it. Whereas then the moment it became, oh, now I'm here and I'm grumpy. And I know, and everyone knows can see how I'm really grumpy. I'm a big grumpy girl. Then it's like, okay, well, my job's wrong. And that, that was different. But that wasn't just Sunday blues. That was Sunday, please, and then Grump, we're talking Monday through Wednesday, excitement for the weekend, followed by Grump.

So, yeah. I've definitely been in job when I was just like, even the thing I was talking about about going to this thing in Clapham, where I made my health physically sick the night before because of the thought of it all, actually my sad memories are being in the house, freezing cold, thinking about doing it. Whereas actually, when I'm there, I don't have a single sad memory actually being there. Yeah. I think it was actually very funny, and I had a funny, it was, I mean, it was a chaotic,

a mad experience, but my sad memories aren't there, whereas, like, I worked in a job where I just would openly weep at my desk every day. There we go. And you're like, okay, that's blues, that's job blues. At one point, I said, my hair is the color of sadness. Just do yourself. Honestly, out loud.

I was like, oh, God, it was horrendous. And so it is being like, oh, what's your job? You know? Oh, come on. Like, let's be clear about whether you really, truly hate this thing or it's just like, oh, everybody, no one really likes going back to, do stuff for other people.

Not when you're doing things to yourself. Absolutely. And talking of, what's our? R is for recreation or relaxed. Oh yeah, that's what we have enough. Did you have enough of that on Sunday?

Did you have enough? Or too much. You can have too much. I can definitely have too much recreation. And relaxing, actually. Yeah. But I get very bored doing things. I get tired and I'm like,

now on a weekend, because I've spent the weekend, you know, on a climbing wall. That's never happened. But say if I did. Yeah. But what is actually more like is get tired of

too much relaxing because you just the more you recline the more you're not fine it's going to be in moderation okay R is what recline in moderation okay make sure we've now got phrases within the acronyms there's footnotes

M of course stands for Mother Call your mother Call your mother No M stands for Monday Oh yeah focus on the Monday Make you Monday night Yeah.

What's your magic thing that you're going to do today? And I'm sorry that we've only got as far as magic, but we don't seem to be able to do. Motivational? Yeah, bitch and man. We just don't seem to be doing better. Do write in if you've got a suggestion. We're on M.A.

What's there's a pause now. Oh yeah? For what? More tips will I ever think. Okay. Maybe the acronym is just norm. That's absolute. That's the norm, mate.

Okay. Sunday blues, norm. That's just, that's really sad. It is, yeah. A L, a lot. A, could be, um. And? And?

The commute. And the commute. Yeah, as in don't forget the commute. Because that's also important and that's often an issue with the Mondays. It's actually not the job. It's the commute. Oh, sure. Okay.

And the commute. Or allow for... I don't know what. What for? No, no, I'm setting you up. Oh, right. I think and the commute is important. It's very good.

Okay. Because I think let's not forget. Let's we forget. I think we've smashed that. I think so too. I hope that was helpful. I can't imagine it was. I do think if it's, if there is any of the things that you can, what is in your control

and can you change any of it? Like can this commute be better? Can you rethink you're like working from home, you know, not schedule? And it's about making, make, have a little sit with yourself and be like, what in my mind is actually just like, oh, work. And what is like, oh, yeah. Oh, this commute, oh, this thing. And what can actually done to be make it better?

And is that just, we need to abandon ship on this job completely or even this whole industry completely is this making me very sick with the stress of it all or the place you live like very recently my commute into town has changed quite a lot recently because when i moved um it's i moved to like a place just to happen to be a lot better um and that little change was so massive obviously if you've you've you know you've bought a house and you're like well i obviously can't move but if you're looking like things like that i think we overlook a lot and i would often used to like rent flats and if i don't even think about the commute i just be like well yeah well yeah well I'll get there.

It's actually really important to think about that because that's every single day of your life. So if that's something that you can change, basically there are lots of things you can change that you don't think you can immediately and they will have just incredible benefits. Yeah. Top bends. Absolute top bennie booze.

Could you go on a bicycle some part of the journey? Tessa, you have. I certainly love my... I'd say you arrived more stressed. Not more stressed. But thrilled. Much more damp. Yeah.

Dampper is stressed. I look much more manic. because I come in wind swept, dripping in sweat, because often the electric bicycles haven't got electric in them, so I've just peddled an enormous, very heavy heft of metal. Aft of metal across the city. Yeah, it's not for the purpose. It's not for the purpose,

and I've gone much, much lower than a person walking. Yeah. But when they do work, fantastic. Great. So I definitely arrive much more money, but I do really enjoy them very much. I think that's the thing. It doesn't matter how you arrive.

Obviously, with some jobs it does. This job it doesn't. It's about how, you know, how you feel about it. a lot of things like, for example, I'd be like, oh, I couldn't possibly do a bike because I'd, I don't know, I'd be too stressed about it. Well, like, I haven't tried it. So I should, I should try it because that would be a nice way of getting in and out. You might be thinking, what has this got to do with Sunday Blues? But it's all about upscaling. It's and the commute. You forget that this is a huge part of it. And the commute. And unfortunately, now we've run out

of time to talk about the less we've got. Hopefully that helps. If you have any, if you have any, normal. If you have any more, or Norma, if you have any more episode suggestions, please do tweet us at Nobody PanicPanickpod. We do get through them or email NobodyPanickpodcast at gmail.com and yeah, come on. We can get through this. It's not about the Sunday,

it's about the week. So let's turbocharge our weeks and follow them to normal acronym. Amen.