Nobody Panic - Still Panicking: How to Decide What to Have for Breakfast

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Still Panicking: From dining out to eating in, food with friends or dinner alone, this week we look back at Stevie and Tessa's top mealtime tips.Morning! Bored of toast? Stuck in a cereal rut? Co...nstantly getting overwhelmed and eating one single mini egg (this may or may not be Tessa’s experience)? Stevie introduces Tessa to the concept of an egg and to be honest it all just spirals from there. This episode was first released on 9 April 2024.Recorded and edited by Naomi Parnell for Plosive.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.
Starting point is 00:00:17 True on Saturday, the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true. Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. What are you having? Oh, one mini egg.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I also say tant frastics for you. I've managed to stop that. Great. But only... You've placed it with one mini egg? Correct. Okay, I think that feels worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Because it's also like so lonely. Yeah, it's bad. It's no one saying it's good. This isn't good here. Welcome to the podcast. Welcome to the podcast. Somba beginnings as the somber beginning of the day. It's really dragging us down.
Starting point is 00:01:08 We like to do how-toes in the book. We don't like to. The entire concept of the podcast is how. It's compulsory. It's compulsory. I'm Stevie. Tessa. Hello. We struggle with breakfast. There was a point I would say late Twentz where I was like
Starting point is 00:01:22 so I just have to keep thinking of things to eat every morning, do I? Yes. This one is how to know what to eat for breakfast. Is it how to know how to decide? How to decide or do it? How to revolution out of your breakfast? How to eat breakfast? I have a very difficult relationship with breakfast. Yes. In a
Starting point is 00:01:39 cafe I'm thriving. a cafe that knows what it's doing. A breakfast cafe. Yeah. Or a cafe with a solid breakfast menu that says like, we serve breakfast or 5pm. I'm like banging.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah. And it needs to be an entire A, what is it bigger, A2 or A4? A2 is bigger. Okay, I want an A3 piece of card. Right. I want that to come. You don't like a book? No.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I need one all on one. Oh, that's interesting. Because otherwise I'm like losing my place in the book. Of course. You don't make a bookmarked cafe? I don't. I should. Otherwise, I'm constantly going,
Starting point is 00:02:17 sorry, what page do you want? Where are you looking? Yes, a constant battle. Where are you seeing that? Breakfast soup. Okay, right, hang on. Yeah, flicking, flicking. Breakfast soup.
Starting point is 00:02:23 One A3, solid card, good GSM. Yeah. Nice big font for grandma. Yeah, always. No pictures, but I could, I could use a little illustration. You've got an opinion on the illustration element. I just want to know that I need to know that I trust you.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Of course. And then I want there to be so many options. Yes, I like them categorised very clearly. I think it's very important for both of us that the dietary requirements... Certainly. All we require is a little GF, a little VE. Sometimes a VG. Fawkes and it was a P-B.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Plant-based, genuinely. Personal best. The other day and I was like, oh, there's no vegan stuff. They were like, it literally says plant-based all over it. Oh, well, don't make up your own code. Don't make up your own code, yeah. Not when it's... That already means peanut butter and personal best.
Starting point is 00:03:10 We're busy here. can't be bringing in. Personal, but it's the chef's personal bad. That's honestly what I would think that was. No, so in the restaurant, I'm thriving. Yes, understood. I'm confident, I can't wait to go out for breakfast. Gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:03:24 At home, oh, mamma mia, we're collapsing. This is a nightmare. I'm having one mini egg. You have to already have all the stuff in, and this is the thing with all the other meals, all the other meal, too. Yeah. You may have been out beforehand on the way back, pick up some stuff. Whereas breakfast, you wake up
Starting point is 00:03:43 when you have to already have, so what if you fancy something that you don't have in? It's like, oh, I'm not going out to get breakfast. You can't pop out for your breakfast. You actually can't. Yeah. You actually, you literally, sometimes you can't. Yes, I know it sounds so obvious.
Starting point is 00:03:58 No, but I agree with you. As I was saying, I was like, I'm joking, but I'm not joking. Sometimes you can't. But it hadn't really occurred to me like, of course that's the whole issue. Yeah. You can't pop out and think, oh, I'll make a salmon. Yeah. You can't be crazy?
Starting point is 00:04:10 You got, what, you're going to go fish for salmon? No, like, the idea of going to test a minute. Exactly. You got a pop. Right. Sorry, everyone. You're like, yeah, what's wrong with you too? I think part of the issue for me for the breakfast is, I can't eat many of the breakfast items.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You've said it. Yeah, you've said this before because obviously it does revolve around bread often, doesn't it? It's bread. I shouldn't really be having a lot of dairy. Is that something that you shouldn't have now? It's a real shame. Welcome to my world. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:39 We should do how to swap out. Swap them out. I've got so many, I've got so many good suggestions. Okay, this is nice. The thing is, I picked many lovely treats from the genetic lottery. I also pulled out absolutely broken intestinal track, extremely lazy. And together, not ideal. I say mini-ache is just ripe with dairy.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, it's a terrible, it's also an objectively terrible thing to eat for breakfast. Sorry, right. I thought, because you were leaving. eating to like, so the reason why a minniac is because obviously I can't eat many of the breakfast things. No, no, no, no, no. I know it's bad. Yeah. So I'm beginning my day, riddled with shame.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And egg. I'm riddled with the stuff. Ironically, an actual egg you can eat. I know, I know. That's part of the problem. But the eggs aren't in, Stevie, are they? You've not had to got them the night before. Why have I got the mini eggs the night before in many ways.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I left over from dessert, of course. Or eat, or they're just bits. Or did. Or dinner. You had them for dinner. I did, yeah. And so I think, yeah, there's bread, it's dairy, it's bits. It's, you know, and I wasn't, I'm not a, yes, I should be a proper, like, Tupperware girl.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I should be travelling with my bits, my seeds, my nuts. I should never get hungry. I should always have, I should be a gal. Does you know part of me that ever thinks you will, you should or will ever be a Tupperware, not seeds lady? I know that, but I'm just saying that's what the sort of person, the intestinal tract I've got needs. Requires Tupperware. And I'm just never, never, never going to do it. And then I had such a big epiphany the other day, because people will not stop telling me to eat breakfast.
Starting point is 00:06:08 and I'm like, yes, I'm not going to do it. Some people don't, and it's fine as well. Yeah, and so I was always like, I don't eat breakfast. That's just part of it. Because always, you know, if you ever do anything that's very specific, if you've ever done anything involving a mic check, they always say, tell us what you're at for breakfast. That man in the tech box is like,
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm supposed to be getting your sound levels, but that's not a good thing to have breakfast. I'm like, yep. It's like, part of the reason I don't eat is I feel so sick in the morning all the time and nauseous, and then I don't eat for a bit later until the noise. just calm down. And then I googled that and the nausea problem is that even if there's nothing in your stomach, because I was like, why, this is so unfair, there's nothing even in you and you're
Starting point is 00:06:49 still making me feel sick. You're hungry. It's not just a hunger feeling, it's an actual feeling of nausea. Yeah. Because I would be able to be like, that's hunger. Okay, good. But this one's a specific feeling. Googled it. Turns out your stomach is making stomach acid constantly regards to whether there's any food coming because it's a well-oiled machine and it's always prepared and if there's nothing in there for it to start working on it starts going back up your gastric tract and that's what makes you feel nauseous so it's actually i was actively not putting anything in there because i was felt so ill but that's actually the opposite of what's needed medically eat breakfast i medically have to throw something into the cavern to be like have that you bell end right that's how i feel about my tummy
Starting point is 00:07:27 it's very yeah there's a lot to unpack there isn't that going back to you saying because of my terrible tract. I simply must be, I have to be the Tupperware lady. It's almost like you've gone, well, I can't be the Tupperware lady, so fuck it. I'm going to eat like mad shit when there is an in between arena that you fully can inhabit. Okay. What's in there? I'd say egg. Egg. Egg is in there. Yeah, I have recently discovered egg. So top tip for anyone listening. Guys, eggs. for breakfast? I don't know if it's og.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Not so if I'm saying saying it right. It's got two Gs I don't know how you can ask that. Ege. Ege. And I have recently discovered that and that has been very helpful
Starting point is 00:08:17 so I am having an egg. Talk me through. It? Fry the egg. Yeah, that's good. In the thanks. See, already, you're up, you're cooking. I'm up, I'm cooking.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It's in the nonstick pans. I don't really put anything little dash of, oil maybe if I'm feeling Italian. Of course. An Italian egg. An Italian. I have what I call an Italian aure. Then we've been one of all non-stay paper.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Cava and salt pepper doesn't feel like I'm doing something. I use them to most as well. Then I have discovered an excellent new bread, gluten-free bread, because part of the issue with attempting anything in the gluten-free or vegan or any of this section is in order to get any taste in there, they've riddled it with sugar or processed food. Also, glue-free bread is fucking round.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And it's crucially rank. There is an absolute banger called Shah. It's got yellow packaging. So is that good then? S-C-H-H-H-A. Hey, omlaut. I've had their pretzels. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, pretty good. But their bread, particularly white and seeded sensation, I would say bang in. Oh, you've got to toast it. Sorry, but you've got to toast it. Right, okay. Okay, anyway. And nonetheless, I was like, this is nice and delicious, but ultimately isn't that good for me.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And then I found this extremely healthy olive bread. And I do think it feels good. And then I put the egg on that. And I feel a million dollars. Talk us through, you really talked us through what the bread is you're not eating, the shark. Talk us through what this old bread is. I want some specifics.
Starting point is 00:09:46 What's the colour of the packaging? Clear. Looks like it's going to NASA. Looks like it's going to space. Yes. A vacuum packed. Off the way with the gluten-free section. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I would say it's green. You probably get it online as well. Probably it's a green packaging. And I would say it's got a picture, black and white picture, possibly of the ocean. I cannot wait to go back and look at it and see what it actually is. Dylan, organic. D-I-L-L-O-N.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Great. Gluten-free olive bread comes in other ranges of bread. Can't stress enough. Absolutely no picture of the ocean. Can't have less of the ocean on it. There's no picture on it. No picture at all. Were you looking at the barcode?
Starting point is 00:10:26 I cannot believe. Can I tell you my nightmare, Stevie? Yes. is having to do either some kind of crime. I'm the only witness to a crime. Yes. I stand between a murder charge for an innocent person and I'm in charge of relaying the information.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Oh my God, the worst. That's my nightmare. So I'll be like 100% on the ocean. That's definitely there. Turns out it's just the colour green and the park. Oh, Christ. Okay, right. My problems, Steve.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Eggs come in a six. They do. The gluten-free bread comes in a four. If I may, You can get a... What shall I do? I run out. You can get a lovely bumper pack of 12 Burford Browns.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Okay. Bumper pack 12. Okay. Famously a dozen. That's very much an egg. It's not for... Like, oh, yeah. I cannot stress enough how new I am to breakfast.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I have not eaten breakfast for two decades. Like, yeah, but like egg doesn't. I just don't need to be... You've not interact. With egg. With egg. For such a long time because I don't eat egg. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 If you don't have anything for breakfast, where are you putting egg? You know? Don't bake. An omelet? Don't eat omelets. Well, obviously, because you don't eat eggs. I'm saying there are things that people do we. Omelette, very stressed about an omelette.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Carbonara. Pop an egg in it. Okay, so my problems are, maybe I have like one good day with it because I'm like, I think I'm not thinking long term enough. You're not thinking long term. I'm not thinking in a dozen. So I have eggs basically every single morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And my issue is that like now I need something. else. So maybe I'll look to turkey. No, not the food. The country. Yeah. Because they do like hummus and flat breads and things. I'm like, hummus in the morning, you're mad, but actually delicious. That is what I've actually been putting between the bread and the egg. Egg and the hummus! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Would never have thought of. And just a layer to give a little something in the place of butter. Absolutely. Have a little bit of that. If you want a butter alternative, you're trying to get rid of Dairy, is that why? Flora, buttery, is literally vegan. It doesn't say vegan, it's vegan. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And it tastes like butter. Okay. It's brilliant. So, I've been having eggs for maybe, I must be, it must be like, lockdown. I suddenly realized like, oh, yeah, I can just have eggs and got into the habit of, I like scrambling them because it's, for me easy, because for some reason I cannot abide sitting and staring and waiting for something to do something. A kettle boiling, can't abide it.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Oh, I have to leave the room. Frying an egg, just staring at it being like, yeah, it's probably done. The amount of times I've had raw egg because I'm like, fuck it. I can't look at it anymore. I really understand. I've never, I didn't know anyone, I'm really glad that I didn't know anyone else felt like that because I have to look at it like out of the corner of my eye
Starting point is 00:13:10 and like do other stuff. Yeah, we do. I really don't like it. I'm so impatient. So scrambling, active enough. That's active. And also it's very quick because you obviously make it this less surface area. So you just know, I really don't like scrambled eggs.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Well, then you shouldn't have it. No. And I do. So I don't put anything in there. I just felt that for it. I'm really, I don't want that. I don't like poached eggs, particularly,
Starting point is 00:13:34 because I'm always scared that there'll be a watery bit in the egg, and it'll freak me out. Yeah. I think there's not. But yeah, so Scrabblers and on toast, and then I, like, add stuff like salt on pepper, of course, and then, like, cheese on it. You're a chef.
Starting point is 00:13:48 If I've got cheese, great, or like vegan cheese, obviously, but like, if we've got, like, vegany bacon bits, sometimes I'm like, pop them in the air, right, if I'm going crazy. But normally it's just scramb legs on toast with the nice butter, and I have sourdough toast, because I can't have normal bread, because it,
Starting point is 00:14:01 hurts my tummy, but salmodeau's all right. Anyway, because I know that, because I'm so used to it, it is like every time I go to a shop to get any sort of food, I think, do I have eggs? And actually now I've got to the point where I just buy anyway, because I know I go through so many eggs. Right. I don't know how many eggs is normal, but I have, I...
Starting point is 00:14:20 You're not gaston. Yeah, literally. I was having three, and then I saw a tweet that was like, two eggs, I like eggs. Three eggs, I'm the egg man. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm the egg man. So you have three eggs a sitting?
Starting point is 00:14:33 I downgraded to two because of the tweet. And I thought, I don't want to be the egg man. Were you having three in your scrambled eggs? I was having three scrambled eggs. It's quite a beefy boy, quite a lot of it. And then now it's two and I can't really tell the difference. So maybe three eggs was too many. So it's about like, because you're new to the breakfast thing,
Starting point is 00:14:50 you've got your breakfast that you like, is every time you go to a shop to get like stuff for dinner or you just have to get into the habit being like, do I have my eggs? Do I have my eggs? Like if you're like a porridge person, like do you have my my porridge. Staying with someone at the moment, Lola, who came on the podcast to talk about shared ownership, I tell no word of a lie.
Starting point is 00:15:09 There was a huge big box of blueberries, like massive, just in sync, washed. I was like, can't have blueberry? She was like, oh yeah, yeah, I'm going to freeze them in a bit. And I was like, why? She's like, because I have them, every morning I have porridge, peanut butter, three dates, and I put 10 blueberries in and I microwave it. so they all like melt into the porridge and that's my breakfast. And it's like, I think you have to...
Starting point is 00:15:33 Jesus Christ. Yeah. And that sounds overwhelming to me. But then for other people, for her, like, what, you cook eggs every month. That would be overwhelming because it's a different type of breakfast. Basically, the key to having breakfast is you have to like have the same every day and you have to plan. Because you can't think when you wake up... What should I have for breakfast?
Starting point is 00:15:53 What you have is one mini egg. One mini egg. So look, you've got your egg on toes. you've still got the variation, you'd be like, maybe I'll have toast and jam or something. Or maybe I'll have like, just toast and that's it. Or maybe I'll have like... No, I'm already panicked by that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You don't want to have just toast. I don't want to have any... I don't want to think, mm-hmm, I don't want that, I'm not always in the morning. Yes, of course. No maybe. That's what's the advanced level breakfast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 For the absolute, you know, beginner like we are, which feels mad the amount of mornings we've gone through. But we are beginners. That's the thing you've had one every day. Every day. You've had been through this. each one has been this level of stress. Well, I, the only time I wasn't stressed when I had a job and there was like a crush,
Starting point is 00:16:36 may she rest in peace. And it was a crush next door. I think they might be still with us. May they rise again? May they rise again. And they had these two things, which I would sort of like, well, I basically would get, it was like a berry crush smoothie. And then I just put loads more stuff in it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And it was like every morning. I mean, I was on like 15 grand a year. and those smoothies were like eight pounds. So I remember. Really bad going. But it was so calm. You were a businesswoman with a job. I was a businesswoman with a job.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Woke up. Didn't have to worry about breakfast in the morning because it was like, well, I know what I'm going to do. Yeah. And then it's like, it's a little routine. And I think breakfast is the only, again, the only meal where like it sort of psychologically sets you up for the day in a sense that you, I think a routine is really important in the morning.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's like the key to making you feel like you're in control of the rest of your day. Whereas with dinner, by dinner, all butts are off. You know, you're eating a shoe and that's fine. Yeah. You can do anything. Because at the end of the days, you don't have, you're not psychologically setting yourself up for anything. The only time I was good about breakfast is when I worked for the Sainsbury's magazine.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You're going to think it's about how we all got free food at Sainsbury, but that simply is not the case. But the office was above a Leon. I was going to say, I bet it was things I worked in that office as well. It was life changing. It was life changing. So I didn't have to panic in the morning. I didn't have to eat anything at home.
Starting point is 00:17:58 What did you go for? What pot? three separate pots. Yes, because they're so small. The breakfast pots are tiny. There's one egg in it. They would say, then they sort of made a comment,
Starting point is 00:18:07 because they're so often, not meanly, but I implied, the pot woman's back. Basically, and I implied that I was sent to buy breakfast for the office. Because I was buying so many parts.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But also three small pots is still not enough for an office. So it's like, who's working in your office? I was deep in the lies, Stevie. I was so deep in it. I got one egg, sausage beans pot.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I know it well. then there was a secondary egg pot yeah you know that and then there was a a yoghut honey banana and chocolate shavings and that was my dessert breakfast dessert breakfast yeah for my three person office because we all got one
Starting point is 00:18:44 but therein lies the key yeah it's the routine so you've got to get yourself into that routine having just said to you like when I run out and then I'm as soon as I got four pieces this bloody olive bread it's incredibly expensive you've left that late to throw that on us.
Starting point is 00:19:00 There's four pieces of bread. That's so often the way with the gluten-free stuff. That's bullshit. Yeah, it's bullshit. So you've got to buy like 20 of them? Yeah, well, that's the thing I was buying six eggs and one pack of those. And then the egg man was going through a rate of knots and then being like, oh. So now I'm like, I see a dozen eggs.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. Eggs keep for weeks. Yeah. Gluten free, bread will survive an apocalypse. That's the thing. It's me being like, it's going to space and it's NASA packaging. Great. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's now can live in the drawer for you. Yeah. okay, I just need to be bulk buying. I'm just not very good at future thinking. No, I know, but you also know you're not so you can anticipate. So it's like, I'm bad at future thinking, therefore I must bulk buy my NASA bread.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, you really can't. Obviously, you don't have to think about it. Just be like, oh, I'm going to get my eggs and my bread. I'll buy double immediately. Just go double. Right, right, right, right. Because I think that that emotion that comes in is the thing that stops me as well.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It's like, I always think like, oh, God, I'm buying eggs and eggs again, am I? For my breakfast. I'm always like, I should do porridge or I should, you know what? Overnight fucking oats has got a lot to answer for. Hasn't it fucking just. Fuck you, whoever thought of that. I had like a little bit of time in a dark alley. I cannot fucking stand that.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Fucking overnight oats. They're not even that good. They're gross. And I made them once and I cried. They're so like, it's like it's tasting grouting. When I ate it in the morning. And I had made it in the glass jar like they said. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I done the thing. I done the layering of the berry. I've done everything that Instagram said I should do put them in the thing at them in the morning absolutely revolting I cried
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah they're revolting because they taste like they should They just look so much better than they taste If you're listening to me like I love them That's really good
Starting point is 00:20:41 Good for you But I mean Get in my alley I want to ask some questions That culture is the That's the problem It comes down to that problem In the back of your mind
Starting point is 00:20:50 I can never get rid of the idea that like Well there's someone Who's done it better They did it the night before They did it five times Monday to Friday and while I'm like
Starting point is 00:21:00 scrambling my eggs and no no no no it's like yeah but I could have just like opened my fridge and taken one of my mason jars out and I don't know used my bamboo spoon
Starting point is 00:21:09 to eat them like I can't that's that is actually the issue I think meal prepping for lunch is different like fine that's like another sort of thing meal prepping for breakfast I think is fucked breakfast
Starting point is 00:21:20 because it just makes you feel like your second best every time I think the entire of online food culture at the moment is encapsulated in Chloe Kardashian's Oreo jar. Huge Mason jar, but like I'm putting my whole hands out like a beach ball. Like it's, I just can't stress how big this jar is. Okay. Huge glass jar affair. And every month, she redos her Oreo jar. So she buys easily 500 Oreos. I was like, well, I guess the family go through an enormous amount of Oreos. Good for them. What's you going to do? Tip them in? Lovely. I guess she's one big Oreo jar. No, no, no. She is going to
Starting point is 00:21:55 individually take her singular Oreo, layer it right to the edge of the glass, and then layer the next one with ease it with about an Oreo space in between. So now she's got a full pattern all the way around of Oreos placed around. I know where you're going with this, and I'm already. The next Oreo.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Oreo ready. I hate it. She puts it in between the gap, don't she? Yeah. She makes a pattern. We'll be placed on top, on top now, to create a lattice brickwork. And round that one goes,
Starting point is 00:22:24 the next one on that goes so there's space oreo space Oreo all the way around in a constant structure all the way around the edge of this I cannot stress how large the jar is yeah the video went on for hours like it was relentless and then she just fucking closes it up and it's sealed now it's on the kitchen counter it looks amazing obviously but insane and then the who is behind the camera is like do you get cross when people eat them and she like spins around it's like don't eat them they're like because then they've upset the pattern and you're like Okay, so you buy 500 Oreos, you do this fucking insane thing, and then every month you throw out the old Oreos because no one was allowed to eat your pattern.
Starting point is 00:23:03 There's something, well, obviously there's something going on there, isn't there? Oh, sure. And there's so much to have that, but it's like, this is the problem. We are making, aesthetic over everything else. We're making these crazy videos. People were putting crazy stuff in jars. We're building, we are then being like, this is what I have with our glossy hair and our breast milk ice cream and all the like, I'm tradwifing.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm doing it. You can too. so easily. And so everyone is like, okay, okay. And then going, why can't I do it? Like, because they're not doing it either. They're creating content. They're not making breakfast. This is your, you'll boot a friend once when I got very cross about, um, a columnist in the Daily Mail and was like, how can they live? Why? And she was like, you are booing a pantomime witch. You are sincerely taking that actress and being like, you are very mean to Dick Whittington. That's such a good way of putting it. You, like, what they are doing is, is completely
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yes, it's those soap opera magazines where it's all like, naughty Tom is cheating and you're like, they're a character. That's a character. Like when our friend was in Coronation Street and she made it to the front cover of like, nasty Natalie of the couples. And it was like, this is funny.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Because that's not her name. And she is nasty. And she's nasty. But like that's the thing is like, when you're watching these videos, like, the line has been so blurred for us. And I know we talk about this on the podcast constantly because we constantly get got by it.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I don't understand. Why do we keep getting God? Because we're quite intelligent. What are we doing? Sorry. I think it's that the pictures look so shiny. That's it. The pictures look really shiny.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It's just that they keep saying that they're being truthful, so we're like, okay. Also, it just looks nice. That's what it is. We are drawn to beautiful things. It looks nice and we want that. We want everything to look nice. I think we just ultimately an extremely aspirational species. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Unlike the raccoons. Like, of course, every species is aspirational. Everyone wants something. The raccoons love a flatline. It's such a crazy thing to say that only we are thinking are aspirational. But we kind of are in that. It's like aspiration gone crazy. Aspiration gone crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Aspression over practicality. The fact that breakfast is now really not about the food. It's about the jar you put it in how you do it. And what strangers you show it to. Yeah, how they're dressed, what their vibe is. Right. We must simply look to Turkey. Please.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So I think a good, just the final kind of bit, the final tip, I think will be the final tip. The final tip. The relentless tip. The relentless barrage of advice. I do, okay, the first tip, well, I think if, so we figured out, like, that you basically have to have a routine. If you're, if you're struggling with breakfast, pick a breakfast that you're like, I like this. And now that's going to be simple for you to get the food in because you're always going to remember. There's not like, oh my God, but what do I have a breakfast?
Starting point is 00:25:49 You're like, no, it's that. It's eggs and, it's that bread. That seems boring. Yeah. Yeah, it is. You're just putting something in there so the acid can do its job. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It's not about being... But it's nice. It can be nice. And once you've got it, your routine, you can be like, oh, I've also got some cheese. I can pop some cheese on the egg.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Oh, I've got some syracha. Oh, you can kind of like build once you've got the basics in, but you have to get the basics in first. One week of basic, one week? Or can I improve from... Do whatever you feel.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's when you feel like it's second nature, the eggs are second nature. Right. Then I could upgrade to Saratja. But not you. Yeah. No, you can. I mean, God, you can go to a serrature now. You do, do whatever you like.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I'm barely at egg. Right. Stay egg and then pop the serratrine. I didn't even know until this episode began that I needed a dozen eggs, you know? Oh, that was even available. Yeah, so you didn't even know what a dozen eggs were. I didn't even know that you could buy a dozen eggs. No. So already, this is big.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yes. And now, if you're at the stage, we're like, okay, so I do know that there's a dozen eggs. I feel like, and like, I'm bored. So that's where I'm at where I'm like, I'm bored. I'm going to expand because I think I'm hampered by the British Isles. Certainly. We all are. Hommas. In Turkey, there you have hummus for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:26:54 At my house once, at my parents' house, you had fried potatoes for breakfast. And you kept saying. For the rest of the day, you said, I still think about it. I'm having potatoes. And we were all like, oh, yeah. I've never had potatoes for breakfast. That's wild. And you were like, this is wild. Yeah, I said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I've not changed. We're all just saying it back. Because of that, I didn't fry potatoes because I couldn't wait. I can't stand and watch them get Chris. be enough. I just, it's for, I can't. But, um, I did start having potato waffles. Okay. With my egg.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Okay. In the toaster. A lot of fun there. Um, I will say anybody, if you're like, whatever your X, Y, Z, um, digestive um, digestional problems are, a potato waffle surprisingly hitting a lot of bases. It is. No dairy. No, gluten free. Uh, mostly potato.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It's got holes in it. It's nice. And it can go in the toaster from frozen so quick. Right. You're looking at spreads. And we're not talking butter. We're talking to spread. We're talking to like cheese, bread, olives, tomatoes, cucumbers.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We're talking like, just you can like look up what other cultures have for Germany. They do bread, slice meats, cheese. That's like a normal, like, and it's like a little chakouterie board, which requires no cooking. It just requires you taking things out of the fridge and putting them on a plate. Right, yes. I would never even think, why would I've never thought to have cheese for breakfast? I'd be like, that's for a, what am I a mouse? No.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Shack Shucka. So that's like tomatoes, red peppers. Like, you are cooking, so this is like next level. But like if you've got into the vibe of cooking, so you're fine for that. Like, spices, pop an egg in it, you have it with bread and hummus. Gorgeous. Like, what a great weekend meal. Eggs, beans on a tortilla, that's Mexico.
Starting point is 00:28:51 So you've got Juvas Ranceras. You know, you've got rice and beans in Costa Rica. Expand what you believe is possible for breakfast because it's so odd how you get stuck into like a, well, it's toast or jam, or it's eggs and toast, or quassette if I'm feeling wild. Or frosties, those are your options. Frosties, that's it.
Starting point is 00:29:10 No, the world is your oyster here. What's in print. And you don't need to be, somebody said the other day about creative. block. They were like, you're never alone with it. It's all out there. Like, there is all these books and TV and culture and things for you to go and enjoy it. If you're like creatively stuck something, like, go and read or watch or learn or like look elsewhere. So there's no point you being, being like, a home alone being like, what's breakfast looking internally? Be like,
Starting point is 00:29:34 look externally. Look externally. The takehomes are? Expand your horizons. Get beyond the Googles. What else is out there? Who else is having? Pick a country. What are they having for breakfast? Try it. Wow. Don't care for it. Move on. move on but I bet you did like it and you could take something from it that you did like exactly that's a good idea yeah be prepping we got to be prepping I got to be buying a dozen eggs I got to be buying bolt buying this gluten free bread what the hell was I thinking I got to be getting it in so that I aren't I aren't surprised when I open the fridge and then I need to be like I know what's going to be there yes because I've always got these things in yes so that every morning they're there for
Starting point is 00:30:07 me if you want to be dabbling and the shakshukas even though you're like but I get I've only got 10 minutes to get thing make that in a friend of mine does that um makes it on a Sunday night big old thing. This is level 17. Right? But yeah. Absolutely. And then that's there.
Starting point is 00:30:21 And then it's like, whoa, a breakfast like that. The routine, the preparation and always being open to excitement. You know? There's no reason to think that routine and think has to walk hand in hand with it being boring. Yeah. You just need to marry those two together in a place. It's like this is an important. And like, but not having the like Googling, what are they having career on the morning?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Are you crazy? No. No. You need to have been Googling this days ago. Yes. In the morning, you need to rise and be like, I already know. there's no time for this now with the excitement to have happened beforehand yes okay once again i'm feeling empowered and so am i i have dim sum i fucking love dim sum wow okay on that note
Starting point is 00:30:58 wow wow wow goodbye i'm not to get some breakfast dimsome bye bye

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