Nobody Panic - Still Panicking: How to Staycate

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Still Panicking: The summer holidays are finally here! To help you make the most of it, this week we look back at some of Stevie and Tessa's hottest holiday tips.Stevie and Tessa work out how to stayc...ate like a boss (and without draining your whole bank account). Also Tessa takes umbridge with the definition of the word “Staycation”.Recorded by Naomi Parnell and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The time is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace.com. Single ladies, it's coming to London.
Starting point is 00:00:17 True on Saturday the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true, Saturday the 13th of September. At King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Have a holiday with us, but also staying in the UK, because that's what is at the time of recording legal. I'm Stevie. I'm Tessa.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Come on in. It's a holidaying in the UK episode. Is it called a staycation? We will unpack that linguistic problem that everyone seems very upset about. People feel very angry about it. People are very upset. If you're new to the podcast, nobody to panic is about basically each week we help. you and ourselves, but mainly ourselves, how to sort of do stuff, just do loads of things.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And this was a suggestion from a listener called Katie, who Twitter DM does, who says, hello, absolutely love the pod on this every week. Thank you very much, Katie. Did she say that? You'll never know. Maybe I just made that up. No, she did say that. My best friend and I were supposed to go on holiday in 2020, but for obvious reasons that did not happen. What reasons, Katie? Be more specific. We've postponed until this summer, the if I on 2021, hoping to get to Europe, but it's looking unlikely, isn't it? This was a while back. I was wondering if you could do an episode on how to stay Kate in the UK. I, for one,
Starting point is 00:01:56 would be listening with an open note pad. Cheers, Katie. Notepads at the ready. At the beginning of every episode, before we get into the topic, which is how to stay Kate in the UK. Before we do that, we like to tell each other an adult thing that we've done in the week to make ourselves feel like a grown-up. Tessa, like, what's your adult, like, thing like? Well, is yours going to be about your hair and your new fringe? Oh, no. So this is the fringe that I cut in lockdown. Yeah, so those following Stevie's hair journey and if you follow her Instagram,
Starting point is 00:02:28 Stevie's cut her own fringe. Listen, power to her, but listen, it looks like, well, it looks like a different time and a different gender. Well, this is a professionally cut fringe. That's what I'm saying is now, looking at you through the screen, wow, breathtaking. Oh, right, thank you. Yes. I went to get it tidied by a hairdresser when the hairdressing salons opened because while it was better it was still diagonal and I think that's something that you don't want your fringe to be I called up when the hairdress is opened and they were they just laughed at me down the phone they were like no of
Starting point is 00:03:03 course we don't have any space we're booked up for my and I was like oh okay back to doing it myself then no that's not my adult thing I just needed to comment on you looking breathtaking but mine is that and I'm sorry everyone I've been harping on about my with the IRS for so long. The IRS is the Internal Revenue Service and it is the tax branch of its HMRC in America. And obviously as a non-American citizen, it has been a number of hoopholes. That's what they call in loopholes in America. That's famously. IRS hoophole. Those IRS hoopoles had to apply for this like international tax number or whatever that's taken so long. Companies charge you $600 to do it for you because
Starting point is 00:03:47 they make everything so complicated that you're like, I can't, I can't do this. And then because I obviously had so much time on my hands in lockdown, I was like, I actually think I can do this myself, which seems like a not good idea. But yesterday, my thing arrived in the post. I did it. I did it, Stevie. This is great. Because when I posted it off, I thought, oh, that's not going to work, is it? And then I'll have to pay the £600. I did it. And I feel buzzing. Mine is that I've started wearing SPF every day. Oh, that's so good. My problem is, is that I'm allergic. I've got very, very sensitive skin.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So I'm allergic to SPF. So it makes my face blow up like a bowling ball. But I'm like, oh, that versus cancer and premature aging. I mean, I've started too late. Certainly. You're supposed to start doing it when you're like, you know, born. So if anyone listening, or indeed, if there's any SPF listening, that is for sensitive skin, I've tried like three different ones.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And each time it's like, oh, this will be the one. No, no. I bought one that was so expensive, I felt sick, but I was like, it's a big, it's a big old bottle. And when it arrived, I cried. Is it working? No, it makes my eyes blow up. Please, tweet us at Nobody Panic Pod or find me on social media at TVM, the S as a 5. And just, just tell me if you've found some SPF that doesn't make your face blow up.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'd just, I would love that. Listen, where are you going to use that SPF? You're going to use it on your holiday. On my face, on my holiday. and the times they are changing, Tessa, and you might be listening to this, and the laws and the rules are completely different. But this will be helpful, I think, regardless of whether it's coronavirus or not, because people will be going on staycations in it all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:29 But before we even get into the staycation, there is a linguistic problem, and I know Tessa is that that is your bag, baby. I do love a linguistic problem. So I see a lot of people arguing about what the concept of a staycation is, and people being very upset about it. I've just seen more than one person, right, this is the hill I will die on. And I'm like, I pick another hill, pal.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You know, there's other stuff out there. So they say that a staycation is when you do not leave your house. You have a holiday in your home. It says, like, brackets, like, in your pool. You're like, in your pool? What are you talking about? He's got a pool. Or visiting local attractions in your area
Starting point is 00:06:12 as though you were a tourist in your local town. But that requires you to live in somewhere that's a place that is attractive enough to have visitor attractions. Exactly, exactly, and have day trips. But if I may, if anyone who's like, no, I think it should be this. This is what the Oxford Dictionary calls it,
Starting point is 00:06:27 a holiday spent in one's home country rather than abroad or one spent at home and involving day trips to local attractions. Literally, both of you are correct. So everybody is correct. And we will be covering both versions of it. So obviously people are talking about it a lot now because of the fact that we can't really go abroad at the time of recording. But I used to do staycations when I sort of just didn't have
Starting point is 00:06:52 any money. But then now I'm thinking about it, yeah, I could never afford to go anywhere in England because it's very expensive. For example, when we moved to London, I would take a week off work and just like when I had a job and would just do things like see my friends who were self-employed and like plan the week and like just go to some free museums. A staycation. That was, I have to say it was really nice. But it does work if you are in a place and you live in a place that has lots of interesting things to do.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But even if you don't, nearby there will be somewhere. Like you can get to somewhere that is nice, Rod, and you don't have to stay overnight. The fun thing about this daycation thing, and I don't feel that this new energy of like, oh, we all have to stay in the UK is coming with like, oh, I think it's coming with like, hey, there's so much stuff here in our own country that we could do. Like, we've got cool stuff. I think which is absolutely should be the energy to be like, how much stuff is that on our doorstep that we've never explored?
Starting point is 00:07:49 Like, we're literally an island. I know we don't have good weather and that's why. But like, there are so many countries that say like, for example, like you might live in an area of California that's like way inland and you might very positively say like, it's only two hours from the beach. And that would be a genuine statement. And most of us, no matter where you live in England, are probably not that far from the beach.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah. Like maybe it's not a great beach, maybe, but like you can get to the water. Go to that shithole beach. We can get to the water so quickly. Like if you just set off at 7 a.m. Like on the train, on the car, whatever. Like, isn't that wild that we aren't more of like a beach community that we aren't better at being like, get in the car, we're going to the beach? Yeah, I think it's obviously there's a lot of like, oh, but, you know, it's a purple beach or like, oh, it's cold.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And I think it is just that, yeah, but also have some fun. Come on. Have some fun, mate. Come on. Yeah, I think it's like things have shifted from being like, oh my God, a horrible UK holiday to being like a UK holiday. Like let's hit let's go. Like let's do it. There is a price issue though that a lot of the beautiful, especially beautiful places in England not only are expensive to stay in anyway, but they have hiked their prices are absolutely just out of the price range of most people.
Starting point is 00:09:01 For example, there are places that you wouldn't think of that could also just really do with the revenue like in places in like the northeast for example. example where it's an overall slightly poorer area of the UK. And it's got loads of beautiful walks, like County Durham is beautiful and like loads of beaches. And yes, some places that aren't nice, but there are some places that aren't nice everywhere. And I think it's about exploring and really, but you're going to have to do some proper digging because obviously a lot of the places are now booked. So that's a problem as well. Also as well, doing digging to see that, I don't know this sounds really like, oh yeah, but like you'll be surprised at how many friends you have who's like, Auntie has a caravan in Wales, put out a status on Facebook if you're on Facebook or like on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Basically, try and look to see if anyone that you know has somewhere that you can sit, because then they might give you mates rates or they might. And then you can be like, oh, I don't know anyone, but it could end up being like your cousin's best friend's partner or whatever. And amazing. That's the ideal if you can't find somewhere. Yeah, I think it's that, isn't it, of like, putting your nose to the ground and, like, getting the word out about where you're going. And also, like, those, exactly, those areas that you're saying, like, I think when we sort of think about UK holiday, we say, you know, the Cotswold, the Lake District, Dirtle Door, Dorset, Cornwall, like, your classics. But if actually you go in a different direction and you go for, like, the North East Durham, my grandparents live in North Wales and near Colwyn Bay.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And the whole of the strip along Colwyn Bay is all just, like, Victorian hotel fronts that are basically either now, like, like boarded up or converted or. And that happened like, I mean, slightly out of our lifetime, Steve, because we're so young, so youthful. But like in the last 40, 50 years, that was when, like, suddenly package holidays took off. But until that point, everybody went to a holiday in the UK. That's where you went for a week to the seaside.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And so, like, places like, you know, North Wales have still got, like, outrageously cheap hotels and things and caravan parks and stuff because they are a dedicated holiday industry that then completely, you know, they still got all the infrastructure there, but nobody coming. So, like, there is the stuff that if you just go for the things that are, that don't normally make the, like, you know, if you Google's stay occasions in the UK, the number of the first here is like 50 places to go with Harper's Bazaar. And the first thing is like, the St. James Hotel in Trafalgar Square, 500 pounds a night, minimum stay, three nights. You're like, okay. Okay. Or we could get on a train and go and head in a totally different direction and go somewhere you never been before or exactly like you're saying, be like, oh, doesn't, doesn't Jeremy's aunt live somewhere near there? And could we camp in her garden or could we do? this or could we do just don't ask her permission, just turn up.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Don't ask her, just rock up. Like just, you know, fight you if you don't let a scamp on the lawn. And also, like, people have been so lonely and so, like, desperate for company that people will be like, yeah. I would honestly at this point have the most loosely, tenuously related, related person could come and stay. I'd be like, please, come in, you know? It'll be a delight.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Even if you're something where I live is awful, like, check to see if there are, like, any cool, like, cycling routes that take you interesting places. You can hire bikes as well. You don't have to buy bikes often. Brilliant. It's a great way of saying that. Thank you so much. Rollerblading as well. Also, as well, there are so many in those like little towns, especially where I'm from in the north, there are so many really fun museums. So for example, like where I'm from, there is the Salt Museum and the Cuckoo Clock Museum. Both mad, but a lot of fun. Nearby, I think there's a museum about pencils somewhere. Great, great stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Like, it's quite fun to look at your own county that's like spread out to county rather than just town. I guess it's literally nothing in your time. But look at your own county as if you were a tourist. Like, go to like the best pub and order their special. Like all those little things. And you're just like, this is silly.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But it is, you know, take a week off work and just have a little explore around. They will see, because you have got, even if you're like, I'm from a crap place, like you have got an attraction or a thing or like, And maybe you're like, I've been to it every weekend since I was 14. You're like, fine, get on that bicycle. I'm the attraction. I am the attraction. Get on the bicycle and go further a field.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Like, go out and push yourself all like and, you know, get a tent. Go further, you know, the things that you can do on the real, on the real cheat. I think exactly what you're saying. It's like, it is silly. And I think once you accept that it's silly, then you're like, okay, now there's no holds. Bard. In our first year at university, I remember, a university to me was just like a constant surprise of people doing stuff that I was like, oh, is that what we're doing?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Like, basically we got there. It felt like everybody had like an older sibling who would like sort of told them exactly what to do. So everyone knew how to do stuff. And then like, we'd only been there a month. And they were like, what have you got your accommodation sorted for next year? And you're like, what? Is that what we're supposed to be doing now? So it was constantly like that.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And then it got to the summer term and suddenly, and I thought there was going to be like all this sort of fun stuff happening in the university after the sort of exams. And instead everybody like went off on holidays. And I remember being like, oh, God. And so there was a whole like gang of us left behind who had an, either thought through ahead or like weren't part of the going on holiday group. And we wanted, we did it. We had this idea of being like, okay, we're going to get up at 4 a.m. Pack our bags.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Me in the hall. Meet downstairs. We all lived in halls. So like our rooms were all there. We're going to meet there. We're going to like do a lap of the, it was on foot while all shouting at each other that were late. And we're going to come back in.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Then one of us was going to be like at the desk in reception and like take our passports. and then give each other the other keys to different rooms. So we had a different room to stay in. And you were supposed to decorate your room and put out towels and make it look like a hotel. And then like go to each other's rooms. And then like we were going to meet up and like exactly that. Do all the stuff in the town that we just were like going to go to all the different
Starting point is 00:14:52 restaurants from different countries and like go pretend we were in Italy and go to an Italian restaurant or you know, Pizza Express. We're going to go to Pizza Express and commit that it was an Italian restaurant or whatever. that we were in Italy, like, pretend we didn't know how the money worked. Like, it is possible to make something very silly and fun and commit to, like, part of the holiday stuff is all about the excitement and the newness of it. So it's about, like, what can you make that's new that you've never experienced before?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Like, what change of scene can you do? There was one of walks around where we went to uni, and it was like, but I never did them. But then someone was like, oh, yeah, I used to go for walks. Like, every time there was a kind of reading week or whatever, I'd go for these walks and be like, oh, God, that's all like, they'd go and stay in one of the, like, an airbusy. B&B and it's like, this is so, why did I think to do any of that? But you just don't because you're like, it just looks like your town. So you just bored of everything. Exactly. And I think it's about like, get on your internet. Like look out what your secret things are. Get on your
Starting point is 00:15:45 internet. Get on your internet. Find your local stuff. Be like, oh my God, there's this thing. And that maybe in a different life, you'd be like, that doesn't sound very fun or cool, like going to the local like Pilchard Museum or whatever. Be like, are you kidding? I'm there. Hello. A couple of tinnies. A walk to the Pilchard Museum. What are great day out. I think as long as you commit to everything with this like, yeah, it's not, it's not, here she goes, attempting to name a club in Ibiza. It's not, wow, Pascal. I've never been, so I can't tell you. It's not one of the world famous Pascal in Ibiza, but it's the trip to the Pilcham Museum, but if you're with fun people and you're making it fun and
Starting point is 00:16:26 you've committed to the silliness of it, like then it's a great, funny day out. If you're not nature's organizer if you're not nature's like we're doing this now like I think now is the summer to take it on board to be like if no one's inviting you somewhere or you know you be like okay I'm going to organize the trip I'm organizing the group thing and even if that's like we're organizing going to thought park it's like okay everyone come and stay at my house beforehand and we'll get up too early and we'll go and we'll get a minibus and we'll like we'll just it's all about like we'll commit and I think like I always think about this really fun friend of a friend who once came on this group holiday who just absolutely even though she didn't know that many
Starting point is 00:17:00 people like just committed out and out to being the funnest member of the group. And basically she was like, she just admitted that her secret dream was to be a butlin's rep. And so like, when we went out, she was just the organiser and was like giving people wristbands that she'd made out of paper and like just, it was so dumb. And I think you've just got to be that person. There are some things that I've found just to be helpful if you are going, like pricing up accommodation, for example, there are good questions to ask. For example, please.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Those like hidden costs that always add up that especially now, God bless everybody who runs venues or accommodations for the holidays, but they need as much money as humanly possible. So do ask things like, oh, do we have to pay extra bedding? Is Wi-Fi included? And we need to pay a security deposit. Things like that. Really, like, read all the small print because if someone's going to charge your extra bedding, it's going to be now. Because everyone's like, please, Mom, we need as much. money as possible. And check what time the like checkout is and like if it's at 8 a.m because they need
Starting point is 00:18:07 five hours to like clean the room before the next people coming in. Like that's not a holiday. You know, like like look at all those small print stuff and also be really aware of like, is it just a cottage in the middle of nowhere and are you completely on your own and you can just like party down? Or are you actually in a communal block and the people who own it are like in the flat next door and will like knock on the door when you're making too much noise? If it says like family, camping. Don't be like, okay, well, we're still fun. I bet it's still, like, somebody will come and shush you at as soon as the sun goes down. 7pm. Like, just be really, really, really read the reviews, really, really read everything.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Don't just look at the first picture and be like, oh, that looks fun. Like, really, really look at it. Before you book anywhere, check for voucher codes as well, because there's loads. So netvouchcodes.comode at UK is a really good one just to see. And also, I didn't realize this, but a lot of the tips of things, like, if you've got loads of air miles, you can be like, okay, fine. but do check with things like nectar points and Tesco Clubcard because I have one and I just don't ever look at it. I'll just get some vouchers that'll be like these chopped tomatoes are now 2P and I'm like great but there's actually like loads of other stuff on there so you could actually you can use them and translate them into holiday points I don't know what the actual technology is.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So Tesco's Club Card if you have one of those it equates to it's pound for pound your club card points but it is so if you spend them in store you have two pounds of club card points you get two pounds in store if you however translate them into red letter days or experiences or stuff you can get between three and five times your club card points so always get the stuff are you sponsored by tesco i just really love a tesco's club card we just got so much my mom is always telling people that you know everywhere she goes because she's like everyone i meet just spends their club card points in store but she's like no no no you got to get the red letter days I think it's that sort of thing of like if you, if they weren't vouchers for it, you might never go Zorbing.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So if you go on the Tesco's club card and see what's available there, you might be like, yeah, I've never gone in a hot air balloon or done those things. I would just never think, I would honestly never think to even just refer to my club card when I'm booking holiday ever. You must. Always check what Tesco's has to say. All thanks, Bruce. Well, I commit to Tesco's because it's sort of an abbreviation of my name. Tessa. Coats. Coates. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Got it. I understand that now. I told people I was the air. Oh, because that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:20:30 When you're eight, yeah, you don't know how anything works. Many people turn their nose up at self-catering. I prefer it because it's the most fun, I think. And also we always just set self-catering things when I was growing up on holidays. But self-catering is usually cheaper, pretty much always cheaper. Also, that means it's B-Y-O-B. That means that your money goes on things like Petra. and like day trips and also it's the most fun going to the big Tesco, the big Santerbury
Starting point is 00:21:01 and getting all your stuff in for your holiday. Like what are you going to plan your meals? What are you going to eat? What are you going to do? Essentially what happens is you arrive and you've only bought vodka crisps and an eye-watering variety of dips. So keep an eye up for that and actually do get actual things. Check obviously that you have all the facilities and stuff, which you will do if it's a self-catering
Starting point is 00:21:21 Airbnb or so. but like really lean into that because if you're trying to kind of save money because also like picnics and stuff like that it's great even when it's raining it's a lot of fun have a car boot picnic it's i love a car boot picnic yeah assume for bad weather and then you will only be surprised if your plan is just like to go to the beach and sunbathe every day it will be a disaster of a holiday if your plan is to have like carboob picnics and go to the pilches museum and like do this walk and do these things that you expect it to be raining then you can be like, abandoned ship on the Pilchers Museum, we're going to the beach, baby.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I just never thought we'd ever do a podcast episode where the word Pilchard's Museum would have come up so much. I just remember. I remember finding a leaflet to the Pilchers Museum and being obsessed with it and wanting to go to the Pilchers Museum every day. And then I walked there. It was shut. So the Pilchers Museum has been a, is been, it's my unfinished business, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:17 Oh, yeah. Well, look, I for one hope that you get to stay Kate near the Pilchard's Museum. so you can finally see them goddamn old pilchards. Basically, just take yourself on a brown sign tour of the UK. You know when you pass the brown signs on the midway? And you're like, yeah. Yeah, what is that? Oldest leopard enclosure.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Classic UK-based museum. Not one. Not one. No. Like, you see like an old, like, Coliseum picture. Or like, we just got so much stuff and we don't go there. And not, like, not the stonehenges. Like, no, no. Everyone's going to go there.
Starting point is 00:22:49 It felt like, this is not the time to do. do the famous stuff. Now is the time for the weirdest. Weird. Yeah. Say yourself the challenge, but what is the weirdest thing we can go to and like learn about and like go on the tour of? So it's supporting small businesses as well. Exactly. You can guarantee that the Pilchid Museum is not like caffeine. It's on its knees. You've got to get to the Pilchid Museum.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah. Exactly that being like, what's the weirdest, funness, dumbest thing we can do? Not the classic stuff. Because the classic stuff will be inundated. Boring. Yeah, like last thing to say about just like finding me being like, make it fun. But like make sure your group is fun. And like up, you know, everyone's on board with the funness. And if you're like, I don't know who to do it. Like, there will be people who want to go on, you know, you've got to be the organiser
Starting point is 00:23:29 of the trip. So you get to say who the funnest group is, you know. Also, now is not the time when we are, as we did that episode recently, about reentering society after a pandemic land. Now is not the time to be like, oh, I guess I should go on holiday with that person. You will not be able to cope with socialising with somebody that you are not 100% comfortable with. Just pick your best people.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Best people only. that has to be the rule and that's okay. And if someone's like, can I bring my partner and everyone hates the partner, unfortunately, there are no plus ones at this journey. Yeah, just like, because of the numbers, I mean, it's the perfect time being like, oh, her hands are tied by the law. Boris actually says your partner can't cover as we hate him. Or you could just say like, oh, it's been so long since he's all like clung out as mates.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Exactly. Stevie caused me up on exactly the right thing, which is like, if you blame an outside force, the outside force will change the rule at the last minute and they'll be like, oh, great. we can do it or whatever. Be honest and say, we just got advice to something. My friend last night on a big WhatsApp thread was like, do we all want to go to this thing? And a friend of mine was like, no, I don't. I don't want to go. And I was speaking to her afterwards and she was like, a year ago I would 100% have blamed work or said like, I've got to be at this or I can't get the time off or anything. And she's like, my truth is I don't want to. And you're like, yes, that's it. And so
Starting point is 00:24:48 you don't have to say, I don't want your partner to come. But you can say it would be so fun. it was just other, it was a just lads trip or if it was just this, or like, if it was just school people or whatever your group is, you know, be like, just school people, please. Just school children. School children. School children. I just mean like, whatever you,
Starting point is 00:25:06 whatever binds you of like, just very clear. Okay, great. Yeah, don't worry. You know, just school children allowed, so I won't be going either. I don't know why I'm organising this. I just want to give back to the get the children into the Pilchers music. that's my only focus.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So, like, yeah, it's about, if it's been just you and your partner or just you and your housemate, or you and your family or whoever you've been with this year, like definitely try and incorporate some other people into that. Otherwise, it's just you and your partner, but now you're in, you know. The Pilchus Museum.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I hope that helps, Katie, because it obviously is difficult because you don't want, you know, every staycation is different, but hopefully that gives you a little bit of, because it's a little bit inspiration, a little bit pep in your holiday step. And also, what I'm looking forward to is the moment this gets released.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's like, oh, you can go on holiday abroad now. But I think even if you can, like, ethically should you, like, and also, I mean, do. Go do whatever you want to do with your life. But I also think, like, if you live, and this can be true, if wherever you're listening, we're talking about the UK, because we live here, but like, wherever part of the world you're listening to, holidaying in your own country is still an exciting thing. And there's so much, there is so much in your own country that you can't even imagine it, you know? Keep Britain British.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Imagine if that was our... That's actually what we're sort of aiming for. Sorry, we've become presenters for GBTV. This is our new thing. And we're... If it's not British, I'm not loving it. That's my personal motto going forward. But also, obviously, post-pandemic business, small businesses have really struggling.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And so it actually is nice to pump some money back in your own country. Yeah, pump it around. I'm proud. And buy your... To be pop up. it back into Britain. By the weird, like, ah,
Starting point is 00:26:52 and caveat out there that while proud, she's also not a fascist, but like, yeah, and it is that, like, yeah, buy the weird mugs and teetails and the,
Starting point is 00:27:03 like, buy some flags. Buy the, put them on your car. Note, buy your flags, buy British and go on a nice British holiday. As it was intended.
Starting point is 00:27:22 As, as nature intended. And also, like, we have got, we're so bad, but it's the weather that lets us down, but like, We have got such cool, good stuff here.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Beautiful landscapes. Or wherever you are, every country's got cool, good stuff, you know. You're never too far from a lovely babbling brook. Right, go find a brook for heaven's sake. Go look at a brook and shut off. On that note. No, you can find us at Nobody Panic Pod. And I'm at CVM.
Starting point is 00:27:49 The S.A.5. Please send us your episode suggestions so we can continue and not run out of ideas. Although we have got, we've got actually, we've got a lovely little black book of ideas, which I'm looking forward to working through for the next few months. Tessa, where can people find you? Bye.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I've never done that before on the podcast. That's very cute. I've been doing those my whole life, the little hiccups, so you're welcome. That's how people can find you. They just hear that like so now. Listen out for that hiccup, and you'll find me.
Starting point is 00:28:17 You'll find me near the nearest babbling brook or British Farm Shop. And I'm at Tessa Coates or that's it. I was singing at all, but I've gone on. nothing else. Have a lovely, have a lovely week and if you fancy going and having a little holiday, go do it. Go do it. And go stay paid in Britain. Bye. Bye-bye.

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