Nobody Panic - The Nobody Panic Guided Tidy

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

In the only natural progression from The Guided Run, Tessa offers The Guided Tidy. Chose a drawer, corner, shelf, and let us begin. Is Tessa’s house tidy? No. Has she watched too much of the Netflix show The Home Edit and is once again over-confident that she can help? Yes. No further questionsSubscribe to the Nobody Panic Patreon at patreon.com/nobodypanicWant to support Nobody Panic? You can make a one-off donation at https://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanicRecorded by Ben Williams and edited by Naomi Parnell for Plosive.Photos by Marco Vittur, jingle by David Dobson.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/nobodypanic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, I'm Carriad. I'm Sarah. And we are the Weirdo's Book Club podcast. We are doing a very special live show as part of the London Podcast Festival. The date is Thursday, 11th of September. The date is 7pm and our special guest is the brilliant Alan Davies. Tickets from kingsplace. It's coming to London. True on Saturday the 13th of September. At the London Podcast Festival. The rumours are true. Saturday the 13th of September at King's Place. Oh, that sounds like a date to me, Harriet. Hello and welcome. This is the first podcast of the New Year and this is something I'm very, very excited about. It's like a guided run, if you will, but it's a guided tidy. And I have been asked to think of something in my house that needs tidying and so I'll be very much experiencing it with the listener. Rather than with the guided run, obviously we were both kind of coaching. But I'll bob in where necessary, but I will be taking a back seat on this. Yeah, Stevie's role is to hopefully raise the questions that you're all wanting to ask. It's to be with, it's to be present with you on the tidy.

And to flag at any point if I've gone off-paced, a little backstory into the tidy. As many of you know, long-term listeners, I'm obsessed with it. We've done several tidying episodes. We've married condo. This will be the last end of tidying episode in a while, I think. I think once we've got a guided tidy, we hopefully we don't need to return to this ever again. And this is the finale. This is the guide.

did tidy. So what I want you to do, the first step is I want you to check if we're beginning together now, if you have a minimum amount, an hour, ideally two hours. Have you got two hours clear in your schedule? Are people coming to your house after that? Or is it just like you've got a little bit of free time and you've got two free hours to do this experience? I don't want you to be rushing through it. I want us to be going nice and calm. And how long is this episode? There'll be pauses where you need to go off and do things. Great. That's really helpful for me. So have you got two hours? You know, like, yes, tick, I'm ready to go.

Great, what are you wearing? Just, oh, bit of... Stray in there. Okay, what are you wearing? Just, if you're in your pajamas and you're like, just like, let's maybe get, let's put our shoes on. Ball gowns. Maybe not, but let's put our trainers on.

Okay. Let's just be like, I'm showing up. Okay, so now you're dressed, you're ready, you've got your time, we're ready to begin. I want you to choose an area of your house. And we're going to start. small. Okay. Okay, so we aren't, we aren't going to do the bathroom. We're going to do, chill out everybody, we're going to do the bathroom cabinet. I want you to choose a drawer. I want you to

choose the cutlery drawer. I want you to choose your wardrobe, your makeup drawer, or your, your, your, the shoe rack or something like that. I want you to be choosing a space rather than a thing. And what I don't want you to choose, and again, you might not have one of these, but I don't want you to choose, or I term a bag of doom. A bag of doom is a bag, probably a bag for life that's in the corner of your room or under the bed, there's just got shit in it. We're not ready for that. Okay, fine, yeah. And where are we going today, Stevie? Bathroom cabinet does need to be sorted. Okay, we've chosen our space. You're going for the bathroom cabinet, and we're ready to begin. And so what Maricondo does is, of course,

this like, you know, very intense experience of like sparking joy and, you know, it's very, you shake the bathroom cabinet's hand and say thank you. It's a lot of that. And please, let's thank the space. Why not? Okay. Yep. Done.

That's done. But as in like what we've, I've now on my journey and with the help of Cleaer and Joanna from the home edit, we're more of like, just get rid of it. They're just much more like basic. They're just more like, there's less thanking. There's more just like, tidy up. Practical stuff. So have you downloaded the Olio app?

and so you've got your, you've got places for the things to go that you're going to get rid of. But we're not there yet. I'm so sorry. I'm just standing in the bathroom looking at a bathroom. You're just standing the bathroom, looking at the thing, wearing your athleisure.

Oh yes, and my shoes. Brow and shoes is on, totally nude in the bathroom. And we're ready to go. Okay, we're looking at the space. You've got your cabinet. Yes. And take everything out.

Everything out. Okay. Don't even look at it. Don't even stop. Be like, obviously, if you're finding like, you know, an old receipts and an old mouth, whatever, just be like, get it in the bin. but don't really be like spending a lot of time here.

Just clearing it out, we're not, you know, engaging with the... Throw that into a space in the living room or in one contained area. The bath? Oh, the bath. Yeah, why not? Throw that all in the bath. Okay. No water, please. And now, so just don't even really look at it. Get rid of it.

Okay. And now I want you to clean the space. Okay. Okay. And again, if you need to, sorry, if you needed to pause there while you're putting everything in the bath, now's the first time that we might need to pause this podcast. Great. Press pause and have a clean.

Yeah. Bing bong Bing bong Welcome back Welcome back Pause now Put on any music that you need Are you pausing again

No I was just talking them through the port But they've already done it So they're like Why you're helping us through the pause? Yeah You can't hear the pause That's why I went Bing bong

Things like you're back Okay Yeah I hope you listen to some music or something We will be doing a guided pausing Okay episode at another point Okay you've paused

You've got everything out Yes you've cleaned it No we haven't cleaned it yet Oh that's what I was That's why I was telling people to pour Bing bong clean I was saying clean everything. You need a moment to get everything out there.

Understood. So I want to take your time. So you can pause now and do that. Right. Right. Now you're back. Bing bong. Right now we're going to clean that, clean it.

Bing bong. And bing bong, you've cleaned it. Okay, you're up back. Yes. Okay, great. How did you do a good job? What are we talking about? You really cleaned?

I did really clean. I used my eco cover or method spray and a microfiber cloth. Perfect. Got all in the bits. And you know when you, um, you know when you have any toothbrush but I've got an electric toothbrush

and your toothpaste gets all on the all up on the shelf so I've really clawed that off as well fantastic and can you tell me what your bathroom cabinet looks like what are we what's the space like like an elephant so it's mirrored with two doors that come out and shelves

oh yeah lovely and then it's sort of built into it's built into another kind of shelf next to it where I put my toothbrush and stuff And that basically is meant to have only like nice things on it. But what happens is invariably it's just all the shit that can't fit into the bathroom cabinet. This is so perfect, Stevie, because what I'm seeing is like things are just, things are just beside paracetamol's beside nail varnish. Everything's all up everywhere.

You know me, paracetamol nail varnish. You know me. Ow, my head. And you've got, what's happened to your head? I've got a little paracetamol. Okay. But you've got your clear. What's happened to your head?

I thought you ate your nail varnish or something. so you, I didn't know, but you've got your clear shelf. Get focused on your shelf. You've got your shelf that you're like, you know what you wanted that to be. Yes, because I've got this little soap that says something like Shakespeare's soap. You can use it in the Macbath. And I know one can see it because it's covered in like my electric toothbrush and stuff.

I want to display all my fun soaps. Perfect. Okay, this is really good. We're going to put a pin in this thought as we now move to. You're looking at all your belongings now in the bath. Okay. And what we're going to do now is categorise. Okay.

We've done empty, clean, categorised. So I want everything to get. And again, during this process, if you're like, oh, I don't need this. But generally, I want it just be like medicine, nail varnish, beauty, however you can, whatever you can sit, shampoo, condition, hair care, nails, whatever, however you think the categories should work. Yes. Get them in groups.

Okay. And are we aiming for, because I tend to go very specific with categories. And I end up being like, it'll be like, ice packs. for the head and it's like well that's just one thing and or like this soap like are we aiming for broadest categories like four categories or are we aiming to go very very detailed with the categories and subcategories i would say detailed as possible so like whatever and again this are fantastic questions from you so you're saying ice packs for the head so what's that i got an ice pack for my head right um in case i got a headache i had a period of time i had a period of time

I thought I might get headaches. I didn't. And I was worried about it. And so I bought some ice packs. And then I've also got like muscle tape from a time before. And they're just like in my cabinet. Separate to each other? Yeah.

But they're like in the mix with like my face masks and my nail varnish and my paracetamol. Okay. So so far I've got like yeah, categories of nail varnish paracetamol. But that'll be medicine. Medicine, nail varnish, hair stuff. Stuff for your face. Stuff for your teeth. Which is in your head, not your face.

argue. But then wouldn't, like things that aren't medical. But then, go on. What are the things? Okay, like ice packs for your head and muscle tape. Is that technically medical? I think so. I would put that. Thank you. So maybe let's branch out from medical to the word like first aid. Oh, right. I feel so much more comfortable popping that in the first aid box. Exactly. So anytime you're thinking like, ah, what's this? The more you can like change a change a category's name, you're like, okay, great. This is all goes together. Whereas I would say if you're doing bathroom cabinet and you do like everything for the hand, all together. Then you've got like, then you're like, plasters, because they could be needed in the

hand. Yes, this is, I tried to do shelves based on body parts and I did have hand and it was like, then you're splitting over two. Yeah, but I could put that on my face and my hand. Exactly. And then you're going to do now. Then you're in a real pickle. Yeah. That's why I'm saying like, first aid sounds good. And then like, beauty. Yeah, beauty is all like one. And then within beauty, if you need to be like, this is nail banish, this is this is. There's often hair and face don't really mix. Don't really mix. You know, exactly right. Shampo your face. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely great. So like really work with whatever those categories.

And if at any point you're like, so that's why I don't want to be like, choose four and that's it. It's like whatever feels good. Okay, we're going to move away from the bathroom as we look at these categories. And also sidebar, if at this point where you're looking at everything in the bath and you're looking at all your things, you're like, oh, I know where there's another nail varnish in the kitchen. And you're like, great. Off you go and get that. But otherwise I don't want you to be like focusing too much on other things in the house. Right.

If you're like, oh my God, okay, great. So you're always getting everything together. on this area. Focus on this area. Okay. So now while you're categorizing everything and to move this, like maybe you're doing your wardrobe

or you're doing your cutlery, you're being like, okay, here are all, my jeans, here are all, you know, and then again, rather than just being like bottoms, which might be like, leddings, track suits, jeans, be like maybe go sports, loungeware, softs. Softs.

Because of sport clothing, that's a lot of, famously hard. Yeah. Famously hard. It's like any like a lovely hoodie. Just like nice things. Oh, right. So you're throwing it all in so it could be like top and bottom.

Yeah, I could have a soft clothes and then hard clothes. No, but like I want maybe your softs are like, you know, you're feeling sad and you've got your soft drawer of like your soft hoodie and your soft tracts with bottoms. But they're not for sports because they're technically sport, but they're too nice. All the categories, as you've just said, work for you. Yeah. That doesn't work for me, but it works for you. Thank you. Thank you.

Terrifying though. Oh, my soft. Yeah, gone. Did they have to pause to do their categories? Oh yeah, please. Bing bong. Bing bong. Hello.

How did the categorization go? Hopefully well. Hopefully good. Now everything is in its little thing and you're thinking, okay, yeah, here's all the stuff. So now we get to an important thing. And again, this depends on which area you're doing. But you're looking at all your little categories. If along the way you've been like, this is out of date, or this is gross, or I've got two spatulas.

or, you know, if we can at this point, do a bit of purging. Oh, wow. I'd love to see a bit of purging. Can, is anything just like, that's totally done? Can it go in the bin? Can it go, if you live in a big city, on the wall outside your house to be collected? Can it go on Oliot? Can it go on gum tree?

Can it be respectfully for the environment? Can it leave? Great. But I don't want to be too focused on that. Just like, if it happens naturally, gorgeous. But don't beat yourself up. We're not going to bing bong that. We're not going to bing bong.

That should be an organic thing. It should be organic. I don't want you to freak out about it. I don't need to be too focused on it. Okay, so now, and this is like a, and now we're like, okay, we've got all our bits here. And now I want you to like, look at your space or your bathroom cabinet. And now we're going to do a thing called, what's called touch access? Touch access.

That's right. Okay. Touch access. I'm in. Okay. So let's say you are doing your cutlery draw. And let's say everything on God's green earth is in there. And now you've got it in your categories and you're like, oh, I'm really good here.

What needs to be in the cutlery drawer that's right there beside you? your prep area. Oh, I know what you mean. So in my bathroom cabinet, it would be like, I'd obviously need my cleanser to be closer to me than my soap that's, that you can use in the Macbath. For sure. And I would say, but Bath is in a display section, all of its own. Fine. And it can be right there, but we're not going to be using. And again, it's the thing between like touch access, but it's on display. You're not using Macbath every day. No. But you do want him there, nice and close in the display section. Fine, but I also need to have my every day's easy access. Easy access. So that I'm not going, trying to go behind all the stuff that looks fancy.

Because I always put the fancy nice up at the front. Because then when somebody who's not me opens, which has never happened in the entire time I've been living there, opens my bathroom cabinet. They're like, well, she's got some nice stuff. Whereas my acris cream, I actually uses an emoliant every day. It's not very nice thing as they put it at the back. Okay. And then what happens is you just throw, you're throwing everything out of the way. I'm ferreting in there. Great. And this is why it's a very personal experience to what this space can be for you. So can there be a sense? separate display shelf.

Right. Can it? I don't know. Is there somewhere else in the bathroom that the McDuff, that the nice things, the lovely... Yes, there is. Yeah. Could that work? Could that work, I suppose, or like, you hate it?

That could work. That could work. Yeah. So could it be something like that's always on display and you always think to yourself, oh, what a nice girl with nice things I am. Yes. Okay. But if you're feeling, if you're thinking in your head, I'm lying, I'm not going to do it.

I'm not lying. That is true. Okay. So those things are in the display section. And listen, we're all guilty of display stuff because you're like, that's my best pen or that's my best thing. I want people to know I've got good things.

Let's get those on display and let's move them out of the like the working area. Oh my gosh. Wow, the working area. The working area. And now that we're in the working area, so it's like show area, working area, working area.

Now we're in the working area, we're working with touch access. So the thing that's closest to you, that's what you need you every day's. Oh, yeah. The toothbrushes, the stuff, the creams. Whereas like plasters, hopefully, we need them, but we don't need them

touch access. They can be on the top shelf. They can be like, I'll go out of my way to get that. With my, with my, cooling packs for my... Cooling packs for the head that we've so far not used. Up they go. Top shelf.

We need them. No one's saying get rid of them, but let's get them out of this area. I attempted to help a friend with this and it was her desk and she was very upset that I was going to get rid of her things and I was like, I'm not going to, obviously I'm not going to do that. And then she was like, but I want my sewing. You're going to say, I don't need the sewing machine. I was like, listen, have your sewing machine.

are you a professional seamstress? Do you use the sewing machine every day? Does it need to be in the touch-access area of your desk? Or could we pop it up here on this lovely shelf? Yeah. So it's about like popping up. And so the cutlery stuff is like, please, knives, force the everyday stuff. But the Christmas knives, do they need to be in there?

Could we move to a different section? Yes, pizza cutter. Pizza cutter. It doesn't need to be, every time I put my hand in the cutter on the scissors, I have to like cut my hand with the pizza cutter to get to the scissors. Great. So we're thinking, what's touch access? And actually then I just use the pizza cutter instead of scissors,

which is just bad practice. On what? On your paper? Stuff, yeah. It's an opening mail. I will sometimes use a pizza cutter. Because you've put the pizza cutter in touch access. In touch access. In TA.

Join the TA. You joined the TA. That's what they were talking about. That's literally. That's what they come to your school to try and help you with. So it's like, no one's saying you don't need all these things, but what needs to be close to you? Okay.

You know, what needs to be close? And then you're like, okay, let's rearrange. And now when you're doing the rearranging, and again, you might have to pause at this point and have a look, is that like, do you need extra stress? storage. Do you need like, and I'm not saying you need to build an extra shelf. I'm saying like, could we divide up this, your section of your bathroom cabinet? Could an extra little, um, moji, clear plastic section help divide here? Could an extra little clear pull out draw really bring this together? Or a thing that goes on the shower with, so you can put all your shower gels

and stuff in there. Yeah. Could that? Yeah. Currently for me in the bathroom, absolutely everything is on. Bath desk. What's bath desk? It's what it says on the tin. Oh, I've got bath desk. Yeah, wooden bath desk. But mine's not even wooden. It's the top of a tiled trolley.

And I found it on the road. It's not good. It's not good. But instead of it being like a clean, lovely area to put a candle and have bath desk, it's covered in crap because that's just got all the shampoo. It's got everything. It's got the paracetamol, loose on it. It's just got everything on it.

And then I was like, right, some things I've now moved to a shelf above the shower. And that's for shampoos and touch access. Let's like rethink this whole And so it's like Let's rethink And it's not about being like I need more space I need to bigger house

Rethink Rethink So a bing bong for looking at your storage Bing bong for Bing bong Bing bong You're back And you might need to have gone to

Pop yourself out to John Lewis at this point Perhaps Maybe you need to have been like If you haven't Bing bong bong bong bing Bong bing Bong bing

Bong bing to John Lewis Please And it's possible that you're like okay I know exactly what I need I can't do it right now I've gone for this sort of holding pattern but I'm going to go get the next thing gorgeous you're doing really great come back to it to be like okay now these are all going in here something for me

certainly when we when we were coming of age the guided tidy shows were very much like everything's in this wicker basket and now it's tidied away gone that's never you're never going to see it again a gun to my head what's in that wicker basket so it's like I think we're now moving to this like people need to see stuff to remember they have it they have it So like clear plastic. Yeah, Moji is very good.

Moji is fantastic for it. John Lewis got some great stuff. TK. Max, Tiger. Everybody be packing this stuff. Clear, plastic. Oh, I can see it. I remember, I know what I have. I'm not just tidying it away.

We're not trying to, I'm not trying to get your home like tidy and a show room. It's like, you live here. Yeah. You live here and you work here. And then you work here. You only work here and you work here. I would say what you're trying to do is like, you know, if you like had a set of coloured, felt it pens as a kid

and they came in their beautiful pack and they were in rainbow order when you put them back you like really took the time to put them back and in the special order and if someone did it wrong you were like, what the fuck you're doing there? I failed every time.

No, you didn't fail. I did fail. Did you? Yeah, I didn't put them back in the right place. Any old way? Well, I'd try to do them a few times and then I'd be like, there'd be one time and I was like, tiling it really quickly and then you'd be like, well, now I've ruined it.

Okay. I would say it's sort of about being like when things have an obvious home, it's like it's no bother to put them back somewhere. The thing that when tidying or like your home being a mess becomes like overwhelming is you're like, where the fuck does this live? Which is why we move into bags of doom crisis area.

Yes, and also because you're like, well, I can't do it now because I'm in so deep that it's going to take me a day. So I can't, like the further away you get from tidying, the longer it's going to take to get you back to, yeah, flat zero, whatever the inbox zero equivalent is. Yeah, flat zero. Stevie.

Mamma mia. Wow. Mamma mia. It's like Italy is here. This is it. I didn't know you took Italian lessons. It's all the time I've got it because I'm done with my tidy. Sorry, see.

Sorry, see. A glassy prego. That's exactly it. Like we, flat zero of like what is the best use of this space? What's this thing? Like, it's just like, it just works every day. And something that these lovely American ladies shout every day is it's a system. It's a stem.

It's a stem. One's initial response. this is sometimes to be like that's stupid. But as we've done with so many of these episodes or things, it'll be like, you know, drinking enough water, you're like, yeah, do feel better. Yeah. Is that thing, you retaliate against it for so long because it seems really boring. And then you're like, God, this is good, actually.

It's actually really good. Oh, this is good. Okay. So you've bonged, you've been to John Lurce, you've got your bits, you've categorised, you've thrown away what you need, and then you're like, and I know what's touch access, I know what needs to be right here. Maybe you've divided up your drawers, so you're like, Pants, bras, socks, tights, oh, rather than just like one.

Softs, hard. Softs, hard. Hard softs. Hard softs. One not homogenous, like, racking of all your belongings. Oh, look, things are divided. Oh, look, these pants are from 2007. Be free. Okay, so now you might want to pause a moment to stay with us, but do some Google image searching of just Google the home edit.

Maybe the word rainbow. I'm going to do it with you. Steve's doing it with you. It's a guided tardy. Here she goes. Now, I don't know, so I'm really... Talk us through your feelings. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're thinking... He's got time for that. It looks stupid. You look like you've got no life. You look like you've got no life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I've worked through it. You've worked through it. But you're absolutely right. Your feeling is like, who the fuck has got time for that? And, yeah, you hate it. Listen, listen. Listen.

Listen. Absolutely. I'm there with you. It's disgusting. You're like, who's got time for this shit? It doesn't look like a livable space. It looks like, and again now, maybe do we need to Google Chloe Kardashian Pantry? We do, yeah.

Yeah. Take a pause now to Google Chloe Kardashian's pantry. We won't bing bong it because you're doing it with me. Oh, my God. That just makes me go, well, you're really rich, you know? She's got little boxes of, she's separated out raisins and golden raisins. Oh, yes. Really great.

Okay, which just looks like a shop. It looks like a shop. Yeah. and that is absolutely too extreme. Okay. Oh, good, okay. Absolutely. So I'm going to say, but what I want people not to do is like, see it and be like, I'm fucking doing that.

And a small touch of that is going to help us no end. But this, Chloe Dukh Kladashan's pantry is insane. Yeah. But also, and I'd describe it for anybody listening. Oh, yeah. I just looked at it and went, oh no, and then didn't describe it. Well, hopefully they're all listening with us. Is that it's jars, it's things, it's rainbow order, it's stuff that you're like,

This doesn't know like someone lives here and cooks here and has a family and, like, exists. This looks like somebody makes it for a showroom and never goes in this pantry. Yeah. It's a completely fake space. And also they, so you might have like four red cans of Coca-Cola in a line, and they need to be four because everything else is four cans. So then if you drink one can of cola, you're like, well, now we're, we're uneven. What the hell are we going to do now? It's because they have an entire garage with something called backstock, and then you immediately replace the can of cola into the four.

Oh, okay, yeah, that's fine. I'm kind of happy that I don't live like that. Yeah, who can? That's why everyone's, they're completely mad. Yeah. But a small touch of, well, I want you to go into this, both knowing that's crazy and also doing a little bit of fun might be nice. Mm-hmm.

Okay. So a little bit of rainbow might be nice. A little bit of rainbow in the wardrobe is like, ooh, a bit. A bit. True, yes. They do a thing if you're doing wardrobe today, or if you're doing shoes, they do something with display shoes where they go one four one

like high heels they would go one forward one backwards oh yeah that's fun yeah that's fun so you can see like you know the fancy heel and you can see like both sides of the shoe and so that's the only thing I've done in my wardrobe is I've gone two pairs of high heels with the one forward one backwards and like a bag like above it and truly ever and nothing else is particularly rainbowed but it is tidy but every time I look at it I think oh well yeah I also think color blocks as well would be because my thing is that

when you're really quickly trying to figure out to wear, or like I can't find out to wear, and I'm like, take these out, put things in, and it's time constraint, going like, is that, what, is that the way, the rainbow that it goes in and, like, panicking? Because I tried to do my pole, my wardrobe pole, pure pole, from, um,

from, um, suits and, like, very masculine to, like, right through to, like, very, very, like, traditionally feminine dresses. And then everything in between. But then what happened was, I'd be like, is the jumpsuit in the middle? Or is that a more feminine? So now I, but, but then if I do, it color blocked, it's all black and maybe one red thing. So the rainbow thing, I think why I resented

so much is it makes me feel like, oh, I don't have enough. I don't have enough color. Color, which I don't want to wear, as I say. I mean, I'm wearing this red jumper, but like, yeah. So, but I see what you mean about, like, adding a bit. That's the thing. You don't have to feel that you have to have this rainbow colored wardrobe because yourself is all black, but maybe if you do have, like, it's just about the little moments of like display that are like, Maybe all of my, all of my, what are they called clothes hangers can be the same. Okay, fantastic. Your face was amazing when I said that.

It was like I just said I was pregnant. In fact, you didn't look that excited when I told you I was getting married. I hope we got that on video. That's really funny. Yeah, that's, I do feel, that's exactly it. Just like, oh my God, maybe they're just like all white matching wooden hangars. Oh, wow, white wooden hangars. Maybe it's like, oh my God.

It's just these little moments of like... To offset the black. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it has to be whatever works for you. So like, yeah, you will feel immediate revulsion and grotescent when you look at the home edit. But when you're like, okay, what little bits could I do here? So like if it's nail varnish, like maybe the nail varnishes could just be like in rainbow

or on like a little stacking plastic shelf that goes up in order. So now like, oh, they're a bit nice. Because like... Oh my God. I'm actually excited about moving house now. Because I could like do a big clearer. Right. So there's something that you maybe won't use every day, but you will probably see every day.

and you'll just, when you open the bathroom cabinet, you'll be like, oh, look at those nail varnish. They just, they just look nice and neat. And like, oh, look at my little white hangers. Oh, look at my little shoes. And it's not to say, like, everything has to be the Kardashian pantry, but just a little moment of it that just makes you be like, oh, gosh. Oh, gosh.

Yeah, that's what I want. Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. That's great. If you are doing books, and this is something I find very hard with the home edit, they love to stack them up, horizontal. Okay. That was always

ugly. Ridiculous. And you can't read them. Oh, yeah. How can you pull, you have to pull one out to get everybody.

To me, that says like, these are, even though obviously my books aren't read every day on the shelf, but to me that says, like,

these aren't for use. This is for show. And that I really, it's a bit like cakes that look like something else and flowers, like something that is on its way

to, it can't be used, it can't be alive, it can't be. Yeah, the only way that this will end is just messy. Thank you.

Once again, you're, thank you. Wow. You're doing fantastically. If you are doing books, they, of course, the rainbow, something, and I did this,

and I did it, it gave me a lot of joy to do it, and every time I look at it, I think, God, that's fantastic. Everyone who comes to the house is, like, actually very nice. I've seen people do rainbow and go, like, one shelf red, one shelf, yellow, one shelf green. I always thought, like,

a little bit primary school, a little bit naff. The whole way, so I've got four shelves, the whole way across, red, yellow, green, blue. So, like, fades the whole way across. And it does just look, I'm sorry to say. No, don't be sorry. It looks classy. I don't think I have enough coloured books.

Oh, you do, you do, you do. A lot of my are white with stuff on them. But then, in which case, do black fading to white. Oh, Jesus. But then there's always one. That'll ask purple. Where's that going? In the purple section.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so, like, you can make it work. Yeah, I think the books one is not for me. Please. But I do think that there are elements. elements of like, yeah, there are like basically, there's just elements of everything, isn't it? There's like, you know, just make sure you have room for everything. And don't just shove stuff in places where then it makes you, every time you look at it, you go,

I just shove that there. I just shove that there. So it's like, I think it's that of like being like, here are my treasured things. And here they are in this black to white fade. Everything you've got. My bathroom cabinet, everything is going to black to white fade. Yeah. You own a lot of monochrome.

It's like, just like, one, like, level of books. like fuck that's cool it doesn't be one shelf that you're like that's my one cool shelf when I look I think sick I'm not asking if you came to someone's house and the entire place was all like this you'd like oh I don't want to I don't want to come in here I can't sit down I can't sit down because the chairs are in black to white fade like which one am I supposed to sit on like this is unlivable but just like these little tiny bits that just make you be like oh yeah great oh yeah so where are we're where are we hopefully we have overcome our revulsion we have and we are now we're placing it in. So hopefully as you've been listening, you've been like, okay, maybe I could try

this. And so I want you to be like, I want you to, as you go, placing your stuff in, be like, oh, maybe this could go here. And not everything's going to work immediately. And you're going to be like, it doesn't look like you said. Re-group, rethink. Where does this need to go? So always focusing on this like, what needs to be touch access, what's display, what's work area, what's show area? What don't I need? What don't I need? What could crucially just be gone from here? And also, when you look at the stuff, you're like, oh, shit, I buy a lot of this. Or like, if you're like, I've got 18 half open packets of paracetamol. I obviously buy paracetamol constantly when I'm out and about.

Let's keep one in my back. Yeah. Just those little things have been like, oh, okay, this is, I guess, how I live. And so, like, along the way, yeah, be gradually being like, oh, okay, okay, I understand myself. I understand myself. Yeah, I think it is about, like, because how you live is who you are. So there will be quirks and things that you're like, because a lot of it that I'll do is that

I used to have like, is to get loads of, because I used to, when I was like a beauty journalist, I'd get loads of samples and I'd have to have all of them out and have to have have all them because they were like nice boxes or they had nice bottles. But actually the stuff in them didn't do anything or actually made my skin hurt. So then whenever I looked at them, they just made me feel bad because it was like, what a waste of someone else could be enjoying that. So like, that's actually quite a psychological thing to go like, oh, I want that there because when I was little, like, you know, or younger, I couldn't afford like the fancy, makeup that my friends could, so I should have it and I want to have it even though it doesn't

work and it's not nice. Whereas I've got acquies cream, which helps me. I'm like, that's embarrassing. Put that way. Why don't I, why don't I decamp the acquies cream into a nice little jar? This is fantastic. So let's say you've done it. Your bathroom cabinet, you're like, holy shit, that looks fantastic. But you have got a little breakaway group of like stuff that didn't fit or that you're like, this is not quite right. Okay, and be like, don't make sure that does not end up in a bag of doom that you didn't make like one exquisite shelf and then be like okay but all this stuff doesn't really fit make sure you're like okay where does this need to be and again go through that like does it need to be touch access can it go in a draw can it go over this you know and

regroup um and then you take a photo yes and you send it to me you tweet tessa at tessa coates with your dm her DM me yeah you can send it at nobody panic pod and show us how you did Yeah, I'd really be interested to see. I want really, really... Let's inspire each other this year. Let's speak this year our spring cleaning year where all of our little areas feel nice.

All of our little areas, that's exactly it. All of our little areas feel nice because you want to come away and be like, oh boy, I feel light, I feel fresh. That looks... Every time I look at that, I feel better as opposed to, every time I look at it, I think that's in chaos

and I'm a piece of shit. I need to sort this out. I need to sort this out. I'm like, oh, look at me go. I'm standing a little bit straighter. My stuff is in rainbow order. black to white fade black to white fade

and bing bong don't pause there though because it's not to pause for there's nothing to come back to it was like a site like a summary bing bong and with that we come calmly and in colour

coordinated pattern to the end of the guided tidy I loved it how does your bathroom cabinet look Stevie fucking great exquisite so thrilled I hope whatever you've attempted to tackle today

you did and you did it with a plomb. Yeah. And then now you have to just relisten to this other every time you go to all the different areas. That's my great hope is that you're like, okay, I've done one, let's do another. I bet that Bing Bong won't get annoying.

You'll forget it's coming every time. Yeah, lovely little joy. Thank you very much, Lisa. Thank you so much for going on the journey with me. Thank you everyone listening at home for being part of it. I hope it's helped you as it has helped me. And I hope I've relayed it in a coherent manner. It was very coherent.

Good time. God-bye. Goodbye, goodbye. Goodbye, goodbye.