Normal Gossip - S9 Bonus Ep 2 - Bonus Episode: Shout Out to the Divas with Jonquilyn Hill

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

Here's another treat from our secret feed vault to tide you over while we wait for season 10! We got Jonquilyn Hill to come back for a round of morsels. Warning: there will be divas and hot p...eppers. Subscribe to our newsletter for writing from Rachelle, Se'era, Jae, Alex, and Kelsey, plus blog recommendations and secrets!You can support Normal Gossip directly by buying merch or becoming a Friend or a Friend-of-Friend at supportnormalgossip.com.You can also find all kinds of info about us and how to submit gossip on our Komi page: https://normalgossip.komi.io/Episode transcript here.Follow the show on Instagram @normalgossip, and if you have gossip, email us at normalgossip@defector.com or leave us a voicemail at 26-79-GOSSIP.Normal Gossip is hosted by Rachelle Hampton (@heyydnae) and produced by Se'era Spragley Ricks (@seera_sharae) and Jae Towle Vieira (@jaetowlevieira). Alex Sujong Laughlin (@alexlaughs) is our Supervising Producer. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Show art by Tara Jacoby.Normal Gossip is a proud member of Radiotopia. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Hello and welcome to normal gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we are going to bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. Now, this is actually Rachel of the past speaking to you. Rachel of the present is somewhere in Mexico, enjoying her life and not looking at her phone. Rachel of the past, however, did feel a little bit guilty about not being able to produce a season 9 finale. And also wanted to give you guys a little bit of gossip to tide you over between seasons. We know we're taking a bit of a longer break this time. We really want to make sure season 10 All-Stars is as good as it possibly can be, which means we're going to take our time with it.
Starting point is 00:02:15 But also, we are benevolent here at normal gossip. So we are repeating some actions. We are doing what we did last month in February, which is giving you one of our subscriber episodes from last year. That is just me and a guest responding to some gossip that we had not heard before. And this episode, y'all, well, let me be honest. I got a little high before this episode. You can maybe tell once you start listening to it. But I remember very vividly the last gossip morsel in this episode, which features none other than Jocelyn Hill.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And it's a doozy. If you listen to this with children, maybe listen to the last. gossip morsel by yourself first and then decide whether or not you want to explain things to your children. That's all I'm going to give. That's all the spoilers I'm going to give. But this episode is truly so fun. I love JQ so much. It was such a delight to do this episode. And I hope you guys enjoy it. JQ, thank you so much for joining me again. Of course, I'm happy to be here. You know I'm always happy to gossip. I am so excited, not least because the gossip you brought me in the episode that we did, I still think about to this day. So I have a feeling
Starting point is 00:03:41 you're going to be a great companion for this ride. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You know, I think about that piece of gossip too. I'm just like, I hope that lady's doing well and that man is not. Exactly. Exactly. We're on the same page. All right. Perfect. Let's go. Yeah. So I have this friend, amazing person. She's a great friend. generous. She's a great mom. She's like really successful in this high powered corporate job. And her husband is a little bit of a semi hoarder. So she was constantly trying to declutter her house because the husband just wouldn't let anything go. And one of the things he wouldn't let go was like this kid's chair attached to a desk. You know how like especially it seems like old timey schools,
Starting point is 00:04:35 would have the desk attached to the chair. And it's just not even good for her own kids to use because it's like the woods all splintery and there's a nail head sticking out. And it was just nobody was getting any use out of it. But her husband was like not willing to let this go unless this went to like a family with a child who could enjoy it. He just had this vision in his head. So she like gets on Facebook marketplace and tries to sell it and tries to find it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 like she's just not finding, you know, somebody who's willing to take this thing. So then she has the genius idea that she should hire a task rabbit to pretend like they are picking it up and buying it from Facebook marketplace for their small child. So she hires this guy. She's like, he was incredible. He came in and he was like, my nephew is coming to live with me from Dublin. And I'm I'm going to give this to him and it's so beautiful, like, that it's been lived in and loved. And I am just, thank you. Thank you so much. And she made sure to tip him very well.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Also, it's funny. Can I just say it was funny because old time. I'm like, ooh, that was elementary school. I was like, what do you mean by old timey? What kind of seats do you have in school now? I'm also just like maybe my elementary school.
Starting point is 00:06:13 My elementary school was like an avid elementary type. So maybe we were behind. I went to public school in Texas. Oh, girl. You're lucky you escape. No, let me not do that to the city of Texas. And you're right. And you're correct.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm lucky. Did you learn about slavery? Probably not. I learned it wasn't a cause of the Civil War. Also, I can I also say I'm not ready to be married? Because the way I would have just been like, I'm going to just get rid of this one, You're not at the house. What are you going to do? No, what are you going to do if it's gone?
Starting point is 00:06:43 She could have lied. Like, there were so many steps before this. But I guess to break this down chronologically, I really need to know more about this semi-horder husband because why do you want to give away a splintery seat so bad? Like, what child deserves a splintery seat? This is like how they gave one pair of tom's away to kids, but they fell apart. And it sounds like there's no sentimental value. He just needs it to go to a happy home.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like, sir, no. Yeah, I have a lot of questions for him. I think the wife is ingenious in her solution making because hiring a task rabbit to be an actor is like what? I would never. What did she look up on task rabbit? What task did she look up on task rabbit to get this guy to come and pretend to pick this up. I could sit in the woods on a log for decades. and the idea, why don't you hire a task, grab it, to be an actor, to pretend to take this away, would never cross my mind.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And that's why she's a high power. This is why she has it all. I don't have it all. That's why she has it all because she thinks differently than I do. I clearly, she's the original girl boss. I'm so ex-a-loat. What's her name? Sophia, what's her face?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Is that you? I read that book and lean in very earnestly when I was 20. We all make mistakes when we're 25. Listen. That's what being 25 is for, actually. It is. Yes. This Dublin, this man said my nephew is coming from Dublin.
Starting point is 00:08:20 He deserves some kind of award, some kind of Emmy. Get Denzell on the phone. Get, like, you know how he paid for, like, I think he paid for, like, Chadwick Bozeman to go to Yale drama school or something? Oh, yes. Yes. That's what we need for this young man. No, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Exactly. Denzel Washington also, I think, helped Glenn Powell, who I always want to call Glenn Close. And also Austin Butler. Yes. He helped his own son, which is one of my favorite pieces of gossip. Y'all can't see the face I'm making, but I am like, really makes you think. It really makes you think. It really makes you think. We are going Farrefield.
Starting point is 00:09:04 How much does she pay the task rabbit? You know what my guess is? Maybe the TaskRabbit was trash removal. I don't know if that's an option for TaskRabbit. You can have someone to come pick up stuff and just take it to a dumpster. I've done that before. Yeah. Like I, Tass Rabbit built my bed because my boyfriend, who I was with broke up with me before I could build my bed. And I was like, dang, I need somebody to do this. Let me open up the app. Could have just waited a week. Like, hello? He did hang some shelves, though. I think he knew he was going to break up with me. So he was like, let me get this. And you know what for that? Still fuck him. literally bare minimum. Yeah. Bear the bars on the ground. Yeah. And just to be like, hey, when you come pick this up, I need a favor. I hope that the husband finds out someday and, like, perhaps goes and see a professional
Starting point is 00:09:48 about his hoarding to you. Just talk to some. Yeah. Your wife is going to extreme lengths to stop you from having to deal with this. And I could only imagine. They were probably fighting over that chair, like actively. Like, actively. Like, I could just hear me like, what do you?
Starting point is 00:10:05 you want? What do we have to do? I work so hard. No, literally. Day in. Stay out. Stay out. You keep putting some crap into the house. I can't come home to a clean house. Like, I can hear it. I can hear it. I hope that the removal of that chair felt like some kind of burden lifted off of her shoulders at the very least. Yes. She'd be like, uh, really? Relief. Reclaiming her house back. Exactly. Exactly. Even if just for a moment, you deserve peace queen. Shout out to you. Okay, what's the next morsel?
Starting point is 00:10:38 That one was great. We're starting off on a high note. My gossip story is about my conception, which took place in the 1980s in Florida, so you kind of have like a visual sense of the amount of day glow. My mom was on the hiring committee at the university where she worked, and the dean or somebody, before they went into one of the interviews for a new professor,
Starting point is 00:11:09 she said, oh, this guy we're about to interview, you're going to love him. And that turned out to be my father. Important detail, I guess they were both separated at the time that they met. It was scandalous. Oh, and like one very cute detail, and this is very my dad, one of the first things she noticed about him on the day of the, hiring committee was that he was wearing a very crisp, very cheap suit with the tag still
Starting point is 00:11:41 sticking off the sleeve. So he and she just basically like immediately fall like headlong into incredibly like passionate love with each other. There's like no time in there. They just like basically love it for a site as far as I can tell. And I don't know how long. they were secretly together before I was conceived, which my mom has sold me so many times, very disturbingly on the beach. I don't know why I felt like an important detail. But, and then, so then my mom was pregnant. And you know, there's like this countdown clock of like, you can only hide that from your coworkers at the university for so long. So some months go by and they're kind of working out their interpersonal stuff with their exes. I think some divorce
Starting point is 00:12:35 papers come into play. But the people at the university still don't know this. And right when my mom was just about to pop and it wasn't going to be something she could hide any longer, she, and this is like very much the chaos, demon energy that my mom has for better and for worse, she went to the university the gossip and he was like the person who would always spill the tea on everything. And she sat him down in the lunchroom and she said to him, I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to give you a piece of information. And you can be the one to share it. I have told nobody else this piece of information.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I'm giving it to you. And if you think it's worth it. I want you to give me $80. And I mean, I haven't done the math for what that is. Inflation-wise from 1985. But, um, and then she told him, I'm pregnant with my son's child. And he went to the ATM, got $80, gave it to her, and went and told all of their colleagues this amazing piece of gossip. So, yeah, so gossip is like the foundation of my story on Earth.
Starting point is 00:14:03 That is the best. That is amazing because, okay, I, there are several, Rachel, there are several things. No, can I. Go, go, go, go. Okay, I'm going to work backwards. One, the idea of getting gossip so good, you're like, yeah, I'm going to pay you for that. That's amazing. Oh, so hold on.
Starting point is 00:14:21 While you're, I'm going to Google, how much is $80? from 1980 to that. Because that was not cheap. Inflation is crazy. It's about $313.64. Period. Even if she was born in the later 80s, I know that's right. Like, can you imagine paying 300 American dollars for a piece of gossip? I think it was worth it. I think it was worth it. Also, I would be, if someone came to me in this situation, I would feel two ways. Because one, I'm like, dang, I'm known as the gossip. Like, that's my reputation. But also, the thing of like, I'm happy to use my powers for good girl. If this is what you want, I got you. Be like, yeah, I'd be honored. Yeah. Yes. No, exactly. I can definitely like,
Starting point is 00:15:05 be like, okay, we had lunch. Like, I'll get some drink with some co-order and be like, also wouldn't it be so just delicious to be in the position of having information no one else does and being charged with disseminating it? Like, you can tell everyone. You don't even have to keep a secret, but you know you have information that's going to make everyone. in the room's jaw drop, that's incredible. I would honestly sit on it for 30 minutes just to be like, just to like relish. No, exactly. Because honestly, it's not, I do not like spreading gossip.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I like being told gossip and having the information, doing nothing with it, but just being like, I am aware. I'm aware of what's going on in the world around me. That can help me make informed decisions. That can help me not put people in uncomfortable situations. That just, I just like knowing. Yeah. Also, and with the main.
Starting point is 00:15:54 story. What I love about almost every boomer, and I think people have lost side of this, and I think this is part of the reason dating is difficult, because I admit this is not a life that I am about. Almost every boomer love story is some sort of like,
Starting point is 00:16:10 oh yeah, I was dating a couple guys, like your dad was at my law school graduation, and this other guy I was talking to was at my law school graduation. And overtime, like your dad was just the one who was around. Uber's really believed in not letting your marriage get in the way of finding the love of your life at all. Also, everyone like online is very much like, ew, dating someone you work with. And granted, again, not my ministry. I've never done it.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Like, also with honestly, within the industry I work in, not a lot of the types of men that I go for. What kind of choice do you have at work? I've been in media circles. We've all seen what's out there. Yeah, it's like, it's just not my, listen, and some of the girls love it. They love it. And for that, I am. But there's a reason why everyone at the New York Times is married to each other.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yes. There's a reason everyone at NPR is married to each other. Like, these people at work, they're flitting and flirting and going on dates and getting married. And then where do you think nepo babies come from? People be at work. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, someone, and by someone I mean, the drag queen, Chixie Mattel, once made the point
Starting point is 00:17:20 that meeting a man at work is one of the only ways you can meet a man as a woman and know that he's like kind of been vetted a little bit. Like you know that he has to pass probably a background track. You know that he's employed. You know he has health insurance. Like you're and you're in an environment that's like pretty safe. Yeah. It happens.
Starting point is 00:17:41 It happens. It's the thing of like you should probably just close to your boss. The fact that she's on a hiring committee. Yeah, that's wild. That's wild, girl. That would throw me. for a loop. That one did throw me for a loop. Like, I'm all, like, I'm, I'm, I'm maybe 50, 50 on workplace relationships. Like the, it depends on the power dynamic. But this is, this is,
Starting point is 00:18:00 your mother is messy. Also, on the beach. I don't want to know where I've been conceived. But was it because, like, they had to sneak around or was it just Roman? Like, they were like, they are these people who it's like, oh, love at first sight. Our passion. We, I'm like, oh, my gosh. I know if her mom gets a glass of Chardonnay in there and they play brown. I girl on the dance floor. Like, you ever see like that cut and they're like, oh, they're, they are still. No, they're still, they're still, they're still, they're still very horny for each other. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, y'all are getting down. Yeah. And on some level, I love that for your mom. I hope to experience that level of intensity at some point in my life
Starting point is 00:18:38 because certainly no one's done it for me so far. Yet. Yet. Yes. Exactly. There's a lot of life left to live. And famously, your 20s suck. Actively bad. Actively garbage, do-do. So I have plenty of time. But I love this for your mother. It is so wild to be like, I'm on my hiring panel. Here I am asking you interview questions. Also, you want to get a drink later? Like, how did the sequence of events, how soon after his hiring day did you get with him? Did that perhaps influence your choice to say that he should be hired? Because was he like, wow, he's hot. No, exactly. Was he actually the one who was most qualified for that position? Listen, she found out of position.
Starting point is 00:19:22 She was all of my She did. Also, who hit on who? Because, like, maybe he made the first move. Because apparently was useful. Hitting on your boss is, well, I don't know if it was boss, but like hitting on you, that's, whoa. Even on the hiring committee. Like, we've both done interviews that are like panel interviews.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I would never hit on any of those people. No. No. No. And I've been on hiring committees. I've never been like. No, exactly same. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:19:49 No. There is never a moment in any of them where I'm like, ooh, my future husband? At all, at all. Especially like, now I know what you make. No, exactly. She's like, now I know you have dental. She's like, a secure man, let me lock it down. I love this story.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I do. It makes me wonder because the collar is like my chaos semen of a mother. I wish to hear more stories from your childhood. I wouldn't know what it was like growing up in the household with these two. Like, again, when I say as a, like, this diva, I would never think, okay, I need this information to get out. I'm like, not a, all right, I'm going to sit down with my boss. I'm going to write a letter. Let's do lunch.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Just being like, I am going to find the person who cannot hold water. Not only tell them the gossip and get them to do that for me, but get them to. give me money. It's really, I, I love this caller's mother so much. Like, she's an icon, but I imagine that your, the caller's childhood has, there's some stories. Being a child of an icon sounds like a rough time. Listen, listen, we have to, we have to ask this woman and blue ivy.
Starting point is 00:21:15 How do you do it? No, exactly. I love that. These are so good so far. Like, we're on such a high. what can possibly be next? Hey, normal gossip. So my partner is a software engineer, and he started a new job during the pandemic that's fully
Starting point is 00:21:59 remote. So he works from home. He has some colleagues in the city that we live in, but he also has colleagues in a different country. And because he works for a tech company and it's quite small. It's not the most like social environment. And there's really doesn't seem to be a lot of like social interaction outside of their everyday work. Which I don't fully understand.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Like I think a core aspect of work is like gossiping with your colleagues. But they they keep it like pretty on task. And so he's been working there for about two years now. And because it was mostly during the peak. pandemic, there hasn't really been any, like, social activities. But this year, I was surprised to find out that they are actually having a holiday party. And keep in mind that my partner found this out, like, a week before the party was supposed to happen. So a week before the party, he gets a message saying, oh, we're actually doing a holiday party this year. It's going to be
Starting point is 00:23:08 on Friday. Here's the address. Hope to see you there. And I'm confused because these people have worked together for a few years now, but I don't, I like genuinely don't think they've ever had social conversation. So in my mind, I'm like, this is going to be a really brutal party. Like, I can't imagine what you would have to talk about. And on top of that, I think he only has about like 15 other colleagues in our city. So it's going to be a small group and they don't really know each other and instead of it being like a dinner where you can maybe talk a little bit, it was at an event space.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And so I'm like very interested about how this party is going to go. I'm not invited. I'm sitting at home, not going. And my partner shows up to the party and he says, oh, there's like a lot more people here that I thought there would be. and he walks around and he like spots one of the colleagues he actually does know and they're both equally surprised that there seems to be a lot more people at this party than they think there are based on how many people actually work for the company
Starting point is 00:24:24 and not only do they there are there more people but they don't recognize anybody and they find this very odd but they know that they're in the right place so they just kind of go with it um and then they see their like CEO who is the one that plan the party. And they go and they talk to him and they're they're just having like casual conversation. And the CEO mentions a few minutes into their conversation that it's actually his birthday at midnight. And they go, oh, like what a coincidence, like happy birthday. That's so nice. Do you have anything planned? And this is when the CEO reveals that this is actually his birthday party that they're all at. And they just thought it was the company
Starting point is 00:25:16 holiday party because that's how it was presented to them. But no, in fact, this is the CEO's birthday. And apparently before COVID, he did this every year. But I guess uses the company Christmas party as his birthday party inviting all of his friends. And my partner, and his colleagues were just blissfully unaware of this. They had no idea. And the weirdest part is my partner does not find this weird. He told me the story being like, yeah, turned out it was this birthday party. This is a misuse of company resources.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I mean, because the way you could definitely rent out an event space on the company dime and save so much. Like, you could make your party huge every single year if you say it's the company holiday party. Again, there are so many. Eva's in these stories, I would never think to do this. No, this man is 100% scamming. I, okay. Also, why can't my boo come if everybody, I can't bring my man? No, why did, why may have plus ones?
Starting point is 00:26:31 You are making, you're using company resources to pay for your party and telling me it's our holiday party and I can't even bring my spouse. I have follow-up questions because I want to know what the food and drink situation was like and the decorations. Yes. But he's a software engineer. I love my STEM. boys, but they do not be asking the right questions. And they don't. I mean, the fact that he didn't
Starting point is 00:26:52 think it was strange at all that his boss did this is, on one hand, that makes me feel very warmly towards him because I'm like, what a nice man. Like, what a sweetheart. That you're like, why would that be weird? Meanwhile, I'm immediately over here like embezzlement. You're embezzlement from your company. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Okay, Wendy. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm not trying to get sued by the CEO of the software engineering company. No, maybe he paid for it himself and he's like, let's come. Oh, what, but. That's so generous of you to think that.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's so generous of you to think that. I think that is an option. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I think he's scamming. I think he's doing fraud. I just like, unless you want to make your birthday, the company holiday. Yeah, I wish that the caller.
Starting point is 00:27:47 had been able to go. How many people were there? Yeah, because the thing about New York, specifically Brooklyn, is every single time there's an empty storefront, it gets turned into an event space. And it's like the size of a bodega, which is not very big. So that's what I'm thinking when I hear events base. But there are really nice ones as well. There are.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I need to know which one it was. All right. What's next? I really, I can't imagine. I lived and taught at a secondary school in England. for about six months and it was wild. So I was living in this house with these three other people who I had met online. I thought I knew what the situation was.
Starting point is 00:28:31 So I met them online, they interviewed me over Zoom. I paid my first rent. All of it is good. And at first I got there and I was super dead lagged and I thought it was fine. It was just like, the vibes were weird. like, okay, like in a different country, and I don't know anybody, and it's probably just me. Well, it just kept getting weirder. So, one day I was cooking in the kitchen, and we had, in the kitchen, there was a glass container that was just labeled breadcrumbs. And so I used
Starting point is 00:29:12 the last of the breadcrumbs in what I was cooking. And that Sunday I went out, I got more breadcrumbs, I bring it back, and I'm like, hey, guys, where do we put the extra breadcrumbs? I filled up the little glass container. And dead ass, one of my roommates looks at me and goes, why didn't you take them out of the aquarium? And I was shook. I, I, I, that was, the aquarium, what are you talking about? And, uh, they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the aquarium. I, so we had a room that was right off the kitchen. kitchen, next to the dryer, there was in a quick, there was a, there was a like a full ass fish tank that was full of something. I didn't know what. Turns out it was breadcrumbs, but there was no way
Starting point is 00:30:01 I was going to know that. And I never used the aquarium breadcrumbs. I kept those redcrumbs for myself. Okay. I, oh, wow. So, so aquarium breadcrumbs, That's weird. That's weird. When, when I need to ask you what you, are you, is this just a, like a full fish tank full of breadcums? Is that what I'm being told? That's what I'm imagining in my head.
Starting point is 00:30:30 That's also what I'm imagining. And I cannot even imagine a reason why one would do that. Because A, that's so much breadcrumbs. What are you how? I go through a thing of breadcrumbs, maybe it over the course of a year. I don't use breadcrums that often. Maybe they make a lot of meatballs and a lot. They could be making a lot of meatballs.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Redding a lot of chicken fingers. Hello? Like they get that air fryer going. They are not playing. But also there's food grade materials. You can't just be like, like people who are like, oh, I put together a snack box and a tackle box. Baby, that's not for food.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That is for fish hooks. I mean, we're constantly covered in micropastics. I'm drinking from a water bottle right now with a plastic top. It's food grade. You're not supposed to have that much. This is the microplastics. You have so much microplastics in your body. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Don't do that. Yeah, they're having, they have more than the, did you see that study that was like we all have like a fork, a plastic fork full of microplastics in our brain? Yes. Yeah, they have more than a fork. They got a spoon too up there if they just are eating breadcrumbs out of the fish tank. What I want to know is like, are they buying breadcrumbs in bulk and then decanting them into the fish tank? Did they make all those breadcrumbs? That's even crazier.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Is it, is the fish tank sealed like that? Also, why would I think to do that? Also, I'm judging the collar a little bit because how did you not notice that? Maybe she thought it was full of pebbles. Like, I'm like, oh, that's weird. There's fish food over there. I think I would recognize, I hope. That if I were to be in the presence of a fish tank full of breadcrumbs, I would recognize what was in front of me.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Hold on. I'm looking up bread. I'm looking at pictures of breadcrumbs. And then fish food. Yeah, breadcrumbs and fish food look different. Yeah. Thank you for doing this research for us. But I will say when you leave in a group house with a bunch of people, there is stuff where you're like, I'm not even going to. that's not my business. I understand being like the fish tank full of breadcrumbs is not my business. What I don't understand is not having clocked it before it being pointed out to me.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, to be like, you know the fish tank? And it's like, oh. If it's a big fish tank and you're in a house share with four other people, there's very limited common space that everyone has access to. How long into your tenure did you know about the breadcrumbs? If it was the first week, I'm going to give you some slack. But like, if it's longer than that, I'm a little concerned about your observational skills friend. That was, that's so, I would have been so baffled living in that home.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I would have been constantly on the phone with my mom. Just like, hey, um, hey girl. Hey girl. Something weird happened. I don't think something weird happened. Like, is this normal? No, exactly. I think of how old you are, sometimes you're like, maybe this is normal.
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, exactly. And she's also, it's a different country. She's like, okay, they do put milk in bags here, so I guess they have aquariums full of breadcrums. They get crazy. They say Jaguar. Jaguar. Schedule.
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Starting point is 00:34:53 See, now what you're doing is dangerous. You're making me like Kate Middleton, and I never thought that I would get there. I feel like the two of you could hang out and have fun. We probably could have a very good time. A very good time. Listen to the reheat wherever you get your podcasts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We have had a lot today, and I can't imagine what this last voice memo is going to bring us. Are you ready? We've been on a journey. Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready. Girl, we've been on a little. Little bitty ride. We've been to some places.
Starting point is 00:35:42 So we were all hanging out and this fool encourages everyone to eat a bowl of hot peppers. Not like eat the whole bowl, but like compete. See who could eat the hot pepper. I mean, to be fair. I did not encourage anyone to do anything. I put out a bowl of hot peppers. You put out the bowl of hot peppers and then you put out the bowl of hot peppers and then you said, I'm just going to lay these right here. I did not say anything. I just put out a bowl of hot peppers, and I said, just so you know, those are hot peppers.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And then that spawned a, you know, kind of male like, well, I can eat a hot pepper challenge, where all three of the dudes sitting around the table started eating hot peppers. And I thought I was clever. and I cheated. I swallowed the whole hot pepper. I didn't chew it at all. I like, you know, crunched a little and then swallowed it. I was like, I hate it. And it was fine.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It was fine. Like, you know, there was no clear winner. Everybody suffered. Everyone lost a little. Everyone lost a little that night. But in the following days, I lost the most. So in subsequent days, like I do. I pleasureed myself and it was not normal. And I freaked out. I had just started dating
Starting point is 00:37:21 what now is my fiancee, so yeah, yay for her sticking it out. And I freaked out. I was like, you know, I've slept with a couple of girls lately. And I don't know. I think I have an STD and I don't know who gave it to me. So I started calling all the girls I had sexual relations with. Proceeded to have varying levels of confrontations with them regarding said STD. And then it turned out, due to a doctor's visit, that I did not have an STD. And thanks to web research, I found out that, that if you eat hot peppers, this is a thing that can happen to men.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Basically, you, like, injure your prostate. Can you injure? Well, you Google. I would like to start from the beginning, which is that I love that this voice memo started with this man saying, this fool. No, that's what I heard that. I was like, I get a sense of where you're from. You are from, yeah, there are big skies where you live.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Somewhere with mountains. Yeah. But also him calling her a fool when she later clarifies that all she did was set a bowl of peppers in front of them and say, these peppers are hot. And the men in the room took that as a challenge. And for him to start up with being like this fool, it's like, sir, you are the fool. Every, you know what? Every story has in common, a diva of some sort. No, literally.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Every story has someone who's like, you know what? I can be 10 times better. I didn't realize I mean you always hear about people being like make sure your man drinks water so you don't have a terrible time but like this is what happens when you eat too many hot peppers
Starting point is 00:39:27 if you're a man now what y'all got going on over the isn't of my business but who knew not me? Certainly not me also the go first of all shout to you for like contacting people having open and honest conversations Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:42 What a conversation to have? Imagine being on the receiving it of that phone call. But also imagine getting the follow-up text of, I don't have an STD, I just ate too many spicy peppers. Like, imagine a confrontation with like a one-night stand and being like, someone has an STD, and then him being like, well. Well, actually. I made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Maybe, I mean, and I don't know how this works, but maybe you should have gotten tested first friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, actually. I'm like, you, I love that he had the conversations before he got tested. Yeah. That's a good man, I'm going to say. Not the brightest, most logical. We did not say a smart man, but a good one.
Starting point is 00:40:32 But a good one. And that's okay. That's even better sometimes, I'm going to be honest with you. Truly, truly. Oh, my gosh. And your fiance, dang. Your fiance is right or die. True.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Good for her. That's a good story. That's such a good story. I hope you tell this at your wedding. Yeah. Someone needs to say it in a toast. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I mean, I knew that after eating spicy peppers that like pooping sucked. But like, oh, I thought that he met. I thought he was like, my butthole. That's what I thought he met too. When he was like, I suffered the most over the next few days and I'm just like, yeah. We all eat chepaulat. Yeah, you bleached your asshole. Bathed it in hot spicy fire
Starting point is 00:41:14 But this is This is terrible This sounds so painful It's like having a UTI but like worse That is so crazy Bodies They are always surprising me They are they are wild
Starting point is 00:41:29 I will say I have a lingering question Which is that at some point He was like you know Later in the week I was pleasuring myself as one does And then the store proceeded from there. Spicy cum?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Is that what happened? That's what I'm wondering. Like, was it the cum that was spicy? Yeah. Or was his prostate from, actually, this could be wrong. Maybe it doesn't come. I don't actually know. Does...
Starting point is 00:41:55 I need, like, a little more detail. And what are you Googling? Please tell me you're doing it on incognito mode. Oh, incognito, of course, does see... Men come from. We have to leave this in. Yes, the prostate gland contributes to the production of semen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Okay. Wow, we've learned something. I mean, and that health is really important. Get your prostate checked. Men go to the doctor. Like, yeah. Please, for the love of God, go to the doctor at least once a year. Also, can you drink some water, please?
Starting point is 00:42:35 No, also that. We're here. I have some requests to make. Oh my God. You know, I did not know what we could possibly end on, given everything that we've got together today. Also, this is the first group voice memo we've ever gotten. Please do this more. I love this.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I love having all the different voices chiming in. Yeah. JQ, thank you so much for joining me. This was a blast. Of course. Thanks for gossiping with me. I loved being on here and I loved all these divas. Shout out to the divas.
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