Not Another D&D Podcast - D&D Court: Cars PCs, Overly Engaged Players, and Razzing Rights

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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This is a headgum podcast. Dungeon, Dungeon, Dungeon, Dungeon, Dungeon, Dungeon, Dunn. Welcome to Dungeon Court, everybody. Dung, Dung! We are your Supreme Crit, Justice's Murphy, Axford, Tanner, and of course, the lowly bailiff, Jake Hurwitz. Dung, Dung, that's right. Dung, Dung. He's in the Dung, folks. Yeah, he's a dung beetle.

He's rolling it up. He's making a beautiful little ball. Why do they make the balls? To eat? What do they? I mean, why do we make balls? We have so many sports with balls. I think that every organism, every species is drawn.

Are they playing dung football? Oh, man. I would love to watch some dung ball. That's going to be the big of a hot sport. We're just going to gloss over the fact that it was one lowly. You guys are talking about dumb balls. Well, we changed it up and the way to poop and stuff. Exactly.

Yeah. Okay. Great. So it's actually a lot meaner than usual. Yeah. Yeah. You're neck deep. Here ye.

hear ye crit is now in session the honorable supreme crit justices axford murphy and tanner are of course presiding in our first case comes from jeff p jeff writes dear your honors and the handsome man not a dung beetle jake well how did they know psychic incredible what are the lotto numbers my friend i've been doing a lot of siops online comparing jake to a dung beetle uh shout out to new haven and I'm also from the area. Hell yeah. This actually happened in an apartment in New Haven,

a hometown case. Whoa. Whoa, setting the scene. I'm there. I'm having pizza. Wow. Is it New Haven? Pizza?

Is it New Haven known for pizza? Is it? It sure is. What sort of pizza? What's their like signature player? Good pizza. It's the pizza capital of the world. A pizza.

What do you mean? What do you mean? No. Yeah. People, I feel like I've heard New Haven has good pizza. It is famous for pizza. People are going to go nuts

if you say shit like that. You can't just say it's the pizza capital of the world. I think it is. We're going to be attacked. Come out. I can't be hearing about this for the first time. I have heard of New Haven pizza. I've not heard that's the pizza capital of not just America, but the world.

All right. It's so close to New York. Yeah, it's better than New York. Okay. Let's hear what happened in this New Haven apartment while the pizza was undoubtedly steam. Keep in mind. They're in the pizza capital of the world. Keep in mind.

Above pepies, no doubt. I tried to DM a game for my friends, and it was one guy's first time playing, and he really wanted to be Lightning McQueen. I tried to tell him that he can't be a literal car and offered to homebrew a Warford shifter that could work like a transformer, but he refused and kept yelling

Cachow. He refused? What is Cachow? That's his catchphrase. It's lightnings catchphrase. Pass my time. Pass my time. Okay.

So, yeah, he refused, and he kept yelling Cachow. I eventually gave in and let him be Lightning McQueen. The day came to play and I started the session. Well, this is where the mistake was. Yeah. There it is. I actually have done enough D&D court that I actually think I pinpointed the exact moment. We do have precedence for the DM is responsible to rein in their players to a certain extent.

Okay. Let's see. Let's see what sort of consequences you got. Let's see how you fucked up. The day came to play and I started the session at the bottom of a well and everyone needed to climb a 15 foot ladder to get out. That's kind of a fun, interesting place to start. Kind of born identity. You all are obsessed with the fucking born identity. I actually couldn't even finish the movie. I didn't like it. I think the born identity, doesn't it start with him in the ocean? Yeah.

I mean, if you're looking for like the closest comparison, I guess it's like the third Batman movie, because he gets thrown in a well in that movie, doesn't he? And he needs to climb out. I don't know if I've seen that one. Okay. So it's more like born. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The day came to play and I started the session at the bottom of this well. Everyone needed to climb a 15-foot ladder to get out. And obviously, a car cannot climb a ladder. So I narrated him being stuck and slowly rusting away. Oh, okay, so you tried to kill him.

I guess that really killed the mood because no one wanted to play after that. And the group quickly dissolved, and they have never asked me to DM or play with them again. Was I wrong for killing off Lightning McQueen as soon as the session started? You may have the best pizza in the world, but you don't have the best judgment in the world. Definitely not the D&D Capital role. I'll say it. I've never been to New Haven, but I'll cede the title to you. The best of pizza in the world. Let me give you a pizza, my mind.

Yeah. Nice. Yeah, I do think you should have right away, if someone's just insisting on being a character from another property, that has nothing to do with it. I guess, look, if someone was like really not creative and they're like, I need to be Aragorn, if it's just a home game, at a certain point, I would just be like, sure, you're Aragorn. great let's let's play your aragorn and you're going to never winter awesome sick but lightning mcqueen you allowed this at your table what did you do there and then when they couldn't do anything

they got mad you kind of had to know this was going to happen yeah this seems like kind of like you started with what should have been the third session reaction to the fact that everyone was annoyed to be playing with lightning McQueen yeah but i guess like it goes it proves something that the players disbanded but also did not try to help lightning McQueen I don't they probably did they probably just couldn't as level one characters or whatever lift a car out I guess it's well I mean you gotta think like so I hate to get into like the physics of it because we shouldn't because it's D&D but if they had strong ropes they lightning McQueen could grasp them in his teeth because he's got

mechanical teeth oh there you and then he could use his tires to like pull himself up I think that if you got lightning McQueen could get out of a wall I was gonna ask you like if you've watched all the cars properties like he never climbs anything well I think there's mostly a ramp based society Yeah. I mean, you can just floor it straight up the side of the well. Yeah, doesn't he ride up walls? I feel like he must ride up a wall here or there.

Well, the well is probably not big enough for him to get up enough speed to like drive around the circle of the wall, right? Okay, so that's how he usually ascends. I think that he could definitely could chow his way up the wall, like if he had enough time to build up speed. I'm just saying as someone who knows nothing about cars other than the absolute awesome cars ride Radiator Springs at Disneyland, I think Lightning McQueen could get out of a freaking well.

It's true. I think that like if all of the players were trying to work together to get lightning McQueen out of the well, yeah, just as a DM you would be like, all right, fine, I'm going to let him out of the well. You guys are being creative and engaged. They gave up pretty quick. Yeah. Or they didn't give up.

Maybe their whole session was just trying to get Lightning McQueen out. It was clear the DM was intent on killing Lightning McQueen. They were just like, we actually don't want to play anymore. I think you answered yourself. He said, no one wants to play with me again. I think that, I think that you know. that, you know, maybe it didn't work out. And I think if you want to DM for them again,

you're going to have to work for it. I think, yeah, because if you look into your heart, you planned this session to kill Lightning McQueen and not to give your players a great time. Yeah. Which I think in the past, we might have given the advice to make the game to kill Lightning McQueen.

But we've softened. We've softened. Well, no, I actually think we would have given that advice when it's like, my friend's been playing Lightning McQueen and everyone's hitting me. Yeah, yeah, you're right. And then we're like, here's... Killing Lightning McQueen, you know,

like 20 sessions in after Lightning McQueen's been super annoying. First off, just don't let Lightning McQueen in your game. Yeah, you had to draw the line right. If someone was like, I want to play a car, I would just be like, that's great. You, by all means, go find another DM, and they'll run a car as campaign for you. That's awesome.

Go play for some motorsport, I guess. If you agree to let that person play that character, you do have to, like, run the game, right? Caldwell, what would Lightning McQueen be as a, A D and D&D character. What does class be? That's a great question. I feel like, you know,

doing a home brew war forge seems fun, but maybe even the closer thing would be like a, like a minotar. Like you could like skin it from a minotaur, I think because of the speed there. Uh-huh.

And then does he like, is he a magical guy or is he a melee guy? I think he's like a rogue, but like he's kind of a sweet talker, I would say. Ooh. Because he's definitely got the speed. A bit of a mastermind.

Yeah, maybe a mastermind rogue. That's kind of cool. He's laying on the charm. He's got a great smile. So then is he not a bar? you know what he's a bar but I feel like I think Rogue has the speed

is what I'm getting at you're right he's got to have the speed and maneuverability especially after Doc Hudson teaches them how to go around those tight turns of course in Radio to Springs okay and with that so I think we are citing the precedent that at some point the DM does have to rain in

their insane players and not let people come to their house at a certain point hey we're going to rule against a submitter we're going to have to rule against a submitter we're breaking yeah not so soft anymore Not so soft, are we? Not so soft anymore.

So I like the idea of having Lightning McQueen in your campaign, but as a big game prize. Like, imagine how funny you'd be if, like, you're hunting for something, you've been, like, given a quest to, like, hunt down this mythical beast, and it turns out to just be a race car. And you've just got to find out how to kill a race car. Yeah, I do feel like you need to do a lot of cars research now. Yeah.

Because you have, weirdly, as much as we don't like this Lightning McQueen player, you did agree to do this. So now I do think you had to build like a full Cars World. So you got to go Cars 1, Cars 2, Cars 3, Cars, Plains and Rescue. You're going to do Cars. Fire Force, I believe, is one of them. That's the one where, yeah, that's the one where Dane Cook plays the main character.

So you're going to want to check out all those as well. Really? Okay. Yeah. Another alternative punishment could be that you have to go to Italy with a shirt that says New Haven is a pizza capital of the world. They'll agree. They will agree. Might be interesting.

It might be interesting. So ordered. Our next case comes from Theron. Greetings. Oh, wise justices and electable. With the Grand Admiral himself. Shut off, dude. Oh, I'm sorry.

Is that a Star Wars reference? Yeah. Oh, Jay can talk about Obit's all he wants, but as soon as I talk about... I actually couldn't without you jumping down my throat. Greetings to the O' Wise, Justices and the electable bailiff. I'm not sure what that means.

I am running a homebrew campaign where the very first thing the party noticed in session zero was that their memories had been wiped, a la Bourne. Oh my God. How does this keep going up? You're a real born vibe from this one. The more you dislike Born, the more it will come up, ma'am up, ma'am. It's just like the least nostalgic time is like that area of just like these A-list actors in movies as streaming started to come out and it's just like we all started to find our little

niches that we liked and everything so to just be like man the top movie of 2005 or whatever why can't you celebrate the end of monoculture with us yeah it was jason born he was there at the be in the nadpod shit averse actually yeah i think i think you can try and fight it but jason born is on the plane fuck jason born having to take down all of the nat bodod shit of hers characters Wow. All the memories had been wiped. For the last seven months, they've been in the campaign with retrieving their memories as their top priority. They just discovered that they have actually been living inside of a time loop, much like Groundhog Day, except everything is controlled by a wizard who is using it to achieve immortality.

Oh, sick. This is a lot for you to be juggling. Everything went off without a hitch and exactly according to plan, which is good because I swiftly realized how many ways this concept could be spoiled for my plan. Yeah. However, now that they have figured out the mystery, my players are finding holes in my time traveling logic. Yeah. Yeah. I would say 98% of their questions have a very good firm explanation that I worked out. However, there are at least a couple of points where I have had to say, I don't know, man, he's a time traveler wizard. It's time magic. Don't think too hard. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the problem with time magic is like if you want to introduce it as a DM, you have to introduce it in a way. that players can interact with it. Yeah. The problem with the time, I think a time loop version of it

means that everything has already happened. So like the person, essentially you can't change the future, right? That would be like a time loop. Yeah, you're trying to break the cycle of the time loop. Right, but I think that like you can't, right? Like all of that stuff has already happened. So that type of time travel is way harder. Yeah.

Then the guy goes back in time, creates a new thing because then doesn't know what's going to happen necessarily. yeah and just go from there and when time travel is the thing that you as a player are trying to solve then you are going to be asking a ton of annoying questions about it yeah right like it's built into it but go on jake what ends up going wrong i feel fairly proud of myself for being able to keep a time travel campaign on track for seven months while keeping it a secret from my table yes seriously you should but at what point can i just use its magic as an explanation without it being a cop-out

Hmm. I wonder if you can like incorporate that into the plot a little bit, like where these holes are like holes in like the reality that this litch is created. Oh, I love that. All the holes they bring up, you say, yeah, you're right. That is a weak spot. Right. That's kind of cool because then it's like a human imperfection. This yeah, yeah. Didn't get everything perfect. I mean, that's a fun review. If they are, if you are just reflecting on this campaign that's already done, which it sounds like that might be it. Like you're great. You're good. It sounds like it was fun. Yeah. If you are still running this. I do think a later reveal could be that it's not a loop that there is like a new timeline being created

and thus these little inconsistencies that they're picking up are ways the world can change and it opens up like new possibilities. Branches that they couldn't prune. Yeah. Unfortunately, we do have to punish you because you fucked up a little bit.

I mean, honestly, you like were juggling to incredibly difficult high concept things in addition to DMing. I remember there was like, kudos. There, yeah, my problem with that type of time travel where it's just all of the stuff has already happened is that the whole story ends up being kind of pointless because you're just like, everyone is just doing the thing that they have to do. Like there was that show that was really good, but after a certain point, I lost interest in it. Did you guys watch that show dark?

I think it was called. Oh, yeah, yeah. I watched all of it. Yeah. So you watch dark and you're just like, oh, this is hopeless. It was so fun. Yeah. Like the main character, spoiler alert.

It's like he's the bad guy from the future He's just like, okay, so he becomes that And that's, yeah, that's that I think it could work though for a D&D campaign Because the time loop things that work well Are when the characters are changing within it So it does feel like it could work for a D&D campaign But it does

The second the time loop becomes the problem Then your players are going to try to solve it And so you're going to start getting asked annoying questions Yeah, yeah, that's true Yeah, you can't just fully trap them in there without a way out or without allowing to them explore their way. IMO, perfect time travel is future trunks from Dragon Ball Z. He comes back to the timeline.

He helps, but he also fucks a bunch of stuff up. The time is not a loop. This timeline is completely different than his own. And then he goes back to his own timeline later, but he ends up helping save the current timeline. When he arrives, are Bulma and Vegeta together at that point? So they don't even know. Does he say hi mom and dad?

I'm trying to remember. No, he tries to not affect it. So he's like pretty quiet about it. Okay. That was actually a big spoiler. Sorry. Everyone knows that. Trunks is bigger than dark.

Yeah. Did you know that, Jake? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was almost if level as far as spoilers go. Yeah. Not quite.

I remember being pretty surprised by it. I didn't realize that there was like a back to the future thing going on with trunks in the DBC saga. That's very funny. Yeah. Yeah. So back to the future. honestly probably a clearer example of in back to the future that one I know you can change it yeah I think like the way you do it is like you

like you have this event that you reference a bunch and then like that's the fun reveals that the players actually get to go to that event and like actually affect how the world changes and then like they get to go to the present and see like what they've changed it's ocarine of time I do love though the thing that call was suggested which kind of gives you an out of the loop which is like when they start to ask and there's inconsistencies you could be like that might be a weak spot you should go to that moment that place and see and then when they go there you're like oh something's kind of fucked up and then there's like a glitch in the matrix there's like a glitch and then they can

kind of like go somewhere else via because even isn't back to the future also kind of both types of time travel where like he invents rock and roll yeah so like there is a time loop like someone goes back in time and invents the thing that they you know whatever yeah so it had always been there or whatever but then also like he can change the past or the future on what he does. So that just shows how sloppy all of this shit is. Is that like the number one time travel thing is pretty inconsistent with its rules? Yeah.

Embrace the holes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you can embrace the holes without like dismissing the arguments. Like if people are asking, you don't have to be like, I don't know. We're not going to, we're not going to discuss it. Yeah.

Yeah. Learn to love the hole. I would argue that you should usually not do the like loop. Everything has already happened. Start a branching timeline. That being said, if it worked, If 98% of it worked, if 98% of it worked, you're good. Congratulations.

So I think we'll rule in favor of you that it wasn't essentially, it's just tough. It's not really pitting two people against each other. You asked if it was okay and I think it was. Yeah, it sounds like if it worked for seven months and, you know, like the jig is up. Let them out of the loop. Yeah. Tell them to watch. So we'll punish your player slightly, not with a real punishment.

We'll have them watch back to the future and see that you can change stuff. But the back to the future car is now Lightning McQueen. There you. Oh, that's great. Yeah. That's so good. That's so bundled. It's really good.

Wow, where to professor? Is it Owen Wilson? Yeah, that's awesome. So cool. Oh, that's why people like it so much. Yeah. I mean, when he says the Kachau, it's just like it's got that classic Owen Wilson's doing. Kachau.

Kachau. That's awesome. Can you imagine how sick must it be to get that kind of role where you're just like just sitting in a VO booth? and you just make the hugest movies ever. Just get that cars money? You just get that freaking cars money, dude. The cars check in your mailbox? Yeah, build a VO booth in my basement.

Put it in my pool house. I'm never going to have to leave my property. Yeah, I'm lightning, McQueen, Cachow. More like Caching. Hello. Ooh, okay, so Cachordered. Our next case comes from Weary Wayfarer to the Honorable Crit Court.

I run an IR pirate campaign with a bunch of random strangers I recruited online when I moved to a new city. Oh, cool. Whoa. Yeah, that is really brave. Hell yeah.

There is an engaged couple in my group who are a problem. Oh, I heard engaged and I thought engrossed in the story, but now I understand. They're engrossed in each other. Maybe both. Maybe both.

Emily and I are engaged in the story, but married. They are constantly doing PDA at the table. Oh, no. And not just a quick cheek kiss or theater kid hand squeeze. They are biting each other's shoulders, getting up and flopping onto the other, and they want to romance each other in game. Okay. And also almost exclusively

talk to only each other in game unless I force a scene where one has to interact with another player. My other players and myself are weirded out, but the issue is we use their maps for the campaign. The couple gifted the maps to me and I feel like that critical part of our game keeps me from calling them out justices and bailiff joke

am I in the wrong for accepting this gift in the first place or for not being firm in telling them to knock it off or is it on them for not understanding that D&D time isn't date night. I think it's definitely on them but I don't know that they're going to realize it so I do

wonder if you just sent them a text and said like would you guys interact with the other characters a little more because I think that sort of the collaborative aspect of it. Like usually in D&D, you're a party and I want to make sure that we have that party feel. And I like this. Like, hey, we're all really lonely and sad.

Yeah. You guys are so special and engaged. And we do see that your love is actually so awesome. Your love is so true. I do think M has a great point here, which is to keep the focus on that. Yeah. You can definitely tell people to tone down the PDA and stuff as like, I don't know, if I'm new in town and I just made.

a bunch of friends and I'm like hosting people and like a couple is kind of being like kissy and stuff I don't know that I would necessarily have the guts to be like hey knock it off I don't want to see that cool it kids yeah I would just be like yeah get a room on this map that you provided us yeah so I think keeping the focus I think if you say this one thing that is very D&D focus which is like hey just like something I noticed you guys kind of interact more with each other just make sure you know like as a table we're all playing together and that might even make the PDA happen less because they'll be less locked in on each other their characters are flirting with each other less these people

are going to burn out yeah this love is going to burn out if you're like if you're going this hard and like even when you're just playing D&D together you're like have to romance each other like you just have a personality outside of your relationship I wonder how long they've been together but the fact that they're engaged I'm like, are these people in like a three-year relationship? And they're still just like, I can't not grab you while we're playing D&D. Are they a problem or are they goals? Yeah.

I think that they're going too hard. They're going too hard. Yeah, I think you're going to burn out. I'm telling them you're going to burn out. Right. If you make your relationship, you're everything, you'll have nothing. What do we think about just like trying to like call attention to it more and everyone does kind of like a sitcom, woo, woo, woo, and they all just clapping.

Oh, but they get someone with a really good. two fingers in the mouth whistle. Yeah. Can any of you guys do that? I can't. No, but I need to watch a YouTube video. I can turn my face into a wolf though. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. You guys, it's audio so you can't see it, but I did transform into a war. Yeah, your lips really did look very cartoonish. Yeah, bleeding from the gums now. That's my teeth retract. M's trying to do the finger whistle. Terrible for audio. I thought that was great.

My ears are killing me. That was so loud. For sure, none of us can do it. If any of us could do it, it would be called well, and he can't. I did it, and frequently, only bats could hear. You hurt my dog ears when you did that. Yeah. I do worry that the hootin and hollering could have adverse effects.

Oh, okay. Because this does sound theater kid to me, because they're, like, biting each other and stuff. So there is, like, I'm getting rar, L-O-L-S-Rub-Ribbibs here, kind of, like, just want to eat you, like, bite you, you, you know. I'm just like a little bit of a romp going on. Yeah, aughts, chomp, yeah. Right. So, like, yeah, maybe ignoring it, if that's the case. They already are ignoring it, yeah. I think that your only chance is to reach out and be like, hey, I love that you guys feel

comfortable, like, playing with each other, but I do really want this to feel like a party. So I was wondering if you would sort of take some of that energy and spread it around the table. And I think you could. What if you just do a different seating arrangement? No, because you can't, you can't have a seating arrangement. No, it's IRL, they said. It's IRR. Oh, it's IRR.

But you can't do a seating arrangement at, you know what, that's also an effect of this is that because it is, I forgot that this is a bunch people that they met in a new town. So they probably also don't know the other people as much. Yeah. What if, here's a crazy thought. What if there's, what if you guys did

know, it's impossible? I was going to say maybe you guys have a night where you don't play D&D so that you could try and get them to... No, they're going to end up Oh, no, they're going to, they're going to just, yeah, they're going to actually fuck. They're going to dry hump on your couch. I do think, first off, you'd be in your right to call out the PDA. If you

don't want to, though, I would be, uh, feel too awkward about it. So I might not, uh, which is why I would have a hard time giving you that advice. I do think though, you can as the DM say, like Emily said, um, try to get people to interact more outside of the people that they already know. And then in addition to that, I do think you could be like, just a vague message that's like, hey guys, as I DM, if there could be like less like texting or looking at your phone or, or, Or like little interactions or things like that. I mean, that always feels tough to send out. I would focus on like asking them to engage with other people.

Like I guess it's a favorite to everyone else. But also, you know, what you could do is have a mission that splits everyone up into little groups, but have them roll for it at the table. And just like, they all get split up into pairs and just hope that the dice favor you. Yeah. Just hope that the dice. So then they will think that you didn't split up. us up. The dice split us up. Or you could just do it behind the screen and have plausible

deniability and be like, I'm going to roll to see which party ends up where. I think the dice would be on your side. It's just like, you know, like, they would. And if you have to fudge it just right into dice Christ confessional, we will absolve you. We'll heal you. Yeah. We'll pre-absolve you. Yeah. Yeah. We'll pre-absolve you. Yeah. It does, it does feel bad because like these people are really goals. It's Lightning and Queen and Sally Carrera. I don't think their goals. That's what I'm saying is like I feel like when there's that much PDA, there's like a secret instability or something. But maybe I'm like the biting and stuff. I'm just getting a particular type of couple. Much like Lightning and Sally, they're just going fast.

Yeah. That's why I'm like you guys have been together for three months and you got engaged at four months. That's definitely possible. Murph and I got engaged pretty quickly. So I can't really talk. But I was a year. I've never like fully through. I've never fully romanced you at a as a PC to a PC? Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah. No. Love is a highway, guys.

Yeah. So, yeah, so I think we're going to obviously rule in favor of you, and I understand this is a tough position to be in. You moved to, like, a new city, and then you're hosting all these people. It is tough. You do need to tread carefully because you, you know, you want to meet new people. You want friends. So it's easy for us usually to just be like, fuck these people.

Get new friends. I get that they're hard to come by. You're trying to get new friends. Yeah. We're actively trying to. And they're putting in maps. So we do have to give them some credit. There's also a chance that as time goes on,

because I think like everyone here is strangers, like this couple is clearly like they're just turning in on each other because like they're the only people they know at the table. So I think like as everyone gets to be more friendly with each other, if you do this idea of splitting them up, I think that like everyone will warm up to each other and maybe this will be lost. Yeah, initiate scenes.

Everyone's going to be biting everyone's shoulders eventually. Yeah. And if nothing else, like you and the rest of the people, that aren't the shoulder-biting, flopping couple are going to be bonded over how uncomfortable it is to be around this couple.

So you might end up having deeper friendships. So good luck to you. We do have to punish the couple. You got to punish this couple. Right. Okay, yeah. Easiest thing is just

that they have to break up. Right. Yeah. They have to have a cars-themed divorce party? Whoa. Does that make sense? Or a car-themed wedding. How about a car-themed wedding?

Uh-huh. They can be together. Cars-themed wedding. She has to drive down the eyes. They're efficient has to do an Owen Wilson voice the whole time. Yeah. Okay. Or can we get Larry the cable guy.

Ooh. No, because this has to be a punishment for like. Larry the cable guy rocks. Yeah. Well, what I'm saying, but the extended family might like that. That's true. I'm saying, dude, if fucking tommator was there. Having, I've been ordained online.

A lot of jokes. Having some random person try to do an Owen Wilson impression for your entire wedding would really alienate the extended family. Yeah. Makes sense. Okay. So you have to hire Larry the cable. Oh, and then there's tie in with wedding crashers and you have to explain the confusing wedding crashers slash Lightning McQueen theming of your wedding. Oh, as part of the vow. Yeah, as part of the vow. No, but also the invitation that you send out will be a picture of Lightning McQueen in bed with a random woman

that he met at a wedding. Wedding. Wedding racers. Yeah, wedding racers. Or they could be wedding crashers, but car crash in parentheses. Yeah. And then, yeah. And then maybe there's like a tag that's like, we're racing down the aisle. Yeah. Cachow. Cajal. So, Lightning Queen, he runs into various weddings, ruins them. And then that's kind of like the inciting incident of the movie of the wedding

crashers reboot. Yeah. He crashes into weddings. Yeah. Bulls down the walls as a car and destroys weddings. And destroys weddings. So like, is he like a wedding assassin? Is he sent by like jealous exes?

Is that kind of what's going on here? I think he's just such a wild. man that he crashes into weddings one of the wild things about this show is that like properties I knew nothing about I end up developing fake lore about and then I forget that it's not the real lore

I'm my only knowledge if you watch cars my only knowledge of cars is from Radiator Springs and I have rid in that ride I mean I think they give you like a pretty good summary of the lore yeah yeah yeah we met Tomator we know all about him you know all about Tomator yeah okay with that let's wrap that one up

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issued before? I love this on. spice we've been needing. Okay, okay. My party is made up of all coworkers. One player has become the default main character of our campaign because of the exciting and emotionally rich energy he brings to his character. Okay, okay.

But I think he is now resented by the rest of the party. Oh, no. It came to a head when he, a wild magic sorcerer, rolled a wish spell on the wild magic table. As he didn't understand that level of power, I asked him how he felt in the world. that moment when the power surged. He gave an emotional refrain that tied to his backstory and I

increased his charisma and altered the fight in his favor. He was ecstatic. My other players, not so much. The next day at work, another player told me he didn't like how I favored the sorcerer. The other players aren't talking to me or the sorcerer even at work. What the fuck?

It's actually starting to affect our productivity in the workplace. Oh my God. apparently they find his passion annoying and just want more puzzles justices i ask for your mercy and your counsel on how to proceed wow okay okay is this one my bank deposits aren't haven't been going through i think that beyond this there's also like a clash of play style yeah yeah this sounds like this one this sorcerer is sort of coming from like the actual play community right and is like playing a more role play heavy thing and and that's kind of what you want to play maybe

and then these other people are just wanting to do encounters and stuff. I think this is a really tough one because if someone is, if you're admitting that someone is the main character, then you might not be going out of your way to include the other players, which isn't good,

but at the same time not talking to someone. I'm trying to think of what they would. Well, but they did pretty directly say that they didn't like how the one character was being favored in battle. One person said that. The other people aren't talking. talking to the DM.

Well, it seems like they're not talking at the table, either. Yeah. Oh, that's true. They're all being quiet cousins. These freaking turds are, yeah. I do think you could be doing a little more as the DM to, like, try and highlight those people. It's hard bringing people out of their shells like that. You know, you got to ask questions.

I feel like maybe, and it's tough because it does seem like they enjoy the encounter aspect of it, and maybe not the, like, the role playing part. But I guess you got to, like, find the sort of roleplay that they like. Because it doesn't, like, this sorcerer really likes the kind of dramatic speech, where they're, like, talking about their convictions and what they believe. But, like, I don't know. My favorite role play scenes are when, like,

everyone's trying to figure out, like, how you're going to sleep in a bed together. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just the bed, Tetris. Yeah, I think, I feel like a lot of D&D, like, there's a lot of different, um, play styles and different things that, like, draw everyone to the table.

And I feel like you're always just trying to have it be, like, a potluck of all that. And maybe right now it's not feeling like that. I definitely understand how. DMing is kind of like hosting, right? It's like, okay, I see you're happy. No, what can I do to make you happy? Okay, you seem happy. Now what can I do to make you happy?

And I mean, they said what they wanted, which is fair too. They said, we want more puzzles. But it's strange that people are like mad in real life. Yeah, I almost understand the one person that's like, I kind of don't like that this is, even though it seems like kind of, I don't know, mean or something to be like, I don't like that that person got a wish spell or how like they're the main character or something like that. By the way, the person rolled it. So it is random. Yeah, exactly.

For sure. Yeah, but it does sound like, I mean, even this, the submitter is admitting that this person is kind of the main character. Yeah. Which is, it is a problem. And it does kind of tell you something, even though I do think it's wild to get mad at your friends about D&D, IRL when it comes to something like this, where it's not like an actual interpersonal argument. The generous read would be like they're looking for something in D&D. They're looking for like an escape or something. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know that. I'm just trying to be. Back to like familiar dynamics of like being overlooked or something like that. But I will say the fact that like two or three people, everyone else at the table comes out of these sessions being like, I didn't like this. That's not good. I think what you got to do is you got to work with this player a little more to bring the other players in. Maybe they can fight in them because clearly they've got that spark. They want to perform and they want to like ham it up a little bit.

But be like, hey, like, I think it'd be really cool if like you and this person did a scene or if like you kind of like teamed up. with them on this or kind of like trying to give them like opportunities to work with the other players honestly if you're the dm's pet what you should really be doing is doing like um almost like sue chefing for the dm right like let me ask this character a question so that the dm then knows about their backstory so i have a lot of money tied up in your company and like if the productivity goes down then i'm fucked okay yeah i feel a lot of my head about that productivity i i do think as the dm you are responsible to like if you're see people not in if if there are people that are at the table that do want to engage in parts

of the games and and you're not appealing to that side of it you are kind of setting yourself up for failure to a certain extent or maybe you know expectations were not set correctly maybe this table just needs to break up maybe you need like a more role play focused table I was thinking that it's so interesting that it feels like they're not talking to you but everyone's still showing up for sessions. Murph, if you break up the table, you're going to tank Q4, man. Yeah, that's true. If you all are still friends and stuff, my advice to you would just be to like put more puzzles

and stuff in. If one person is the main character, there might just be somebody who's a better actor or they might just be more outgoing or, I mean, ungenerous read, maybe this player is actually annoying. Yeah. And the DM could like, and. The thing is, it was so easy to picture it in a way that it would be annoying. Right? Yeah. So there is the, there's the possibility that they're just the most engaged and they are the best storyteller and the best actor. And there is another world where the submitter and this player are doing this big thing. Essentially like, I don't know, like writing emotional checks that they can't cash. Like there's like these moments don't need to be as big or they're always going big or, you know. I can very clearly see. Yeah. I can see a scene where like this person is,

monologuing and everyone's just going to like check in their folks. Exactly. It's just like, I am the anime protagonist and the DM is writing me my own personal manga and everyone else is just sitting there being like, you got to make that shit My Hero Academia. You've got to balance it. You got to make, deco is the main character, obviously, but we're hearing a lot about everyone else. Oravity's up in the mix. We're hearing about froppy nonstop. Don't worry about it. Okay, so I think we should sentence you to watch My Hero Academia. Yes, you need to get in the back of a Lightning McQueen Uber and watch all of

Oh, wow. Do you have Lightning McQueen Uber's doing that? They could. There's one. It's so rare. If they did the self-driving cars. That's so dangerous. That's liability.

Self-driving Lightning McQueen's with Owen Watson boys. That's such a liability for that I believe. And just it gets into a crash. You're joking, right? Of course. You instantly crash into a wedding. I wish I wasn't joking. I know what my wish spell would be.

Yeah, you do have to ride a Lightning McQueen Uber into a wedding I think is your punishment okay I think there's the here's the thing I actually don't feel this one is really hard to come down on because I do think that the players seem to be overreacting you know like getting mad and like not being able to do your job because you're pissed about D&D is pretty strange yeah yeah but on the other hand I do think if you're it sort of the fault comes with the initial acknowledgement that you've made somebody the main character I don't think that this wish, it sounds like this was just a cool moment. But maybe it was a straw that broke the camel's back.

You've already made this person the main character. Your player's punishment doesn't fit the crime, but that doesn't mean a crime wasn't committed. Yeah, I think we're being a little hard in the DM here, but at the same time, you do have to ride a lightning between Uber through a wedding. And you know what? A lot of times, I will take a car over here because my wife needs our car, so I'll just, like, I will take an Uber to record when I'm DMing. And that's a little extra time I use to think and prep. And you could be doing that in the Lightning Queen Uber on your way to crash into. Great, great.

Can I tell you, also coming from a one car household, when I have to take an Uber and I get to just watch something on my iPad in the back, that's fun. Here's a great surprise around Caldwell. You're about to get an Uber. You're about to get an Uber to come recording an ad bot. Right. Okay. You see that your Uber driver is Owen. It just says Owen.

And there's a picture. It's super pixelated, but you could have sworn it's a certain blonde actor that you're. recognize that nose you're familiar with you're already running a little bit late lightning McQueen car okay pulls up no driver no driver but the voice with an Owen Wilson voice says cacao hey bud I'm here to take you on your way sponsored by Disney Plus if you get in the car I snap a profile selfie send it everyone I know both as a brag and as insurance And if someone tell me if I'm not supposed to do this. That's so funny, though, to send it to, to send it to different group texts with a different, some group text, you're like, L.O.L. Look at this. And then other ones, you're like, can you believe the lottery I won today?

Yeah, some people, it's law like this. Some people, it's like, holy shit, Lightning McQueen. And then a third group is like, if I die, here's where I am. Yeah. So you do, you do get in. I get in. but he sends up a responsible amount of text yeah and like I think it get in

and then I get a little nervous when Lightning McQueen's like huh there's like three weddings near here just the idea of Caldwell in the back of a car

just hands so sweaty clutching the armrest as Lightning McQueen zips them through the city just barrels towards a barn wedding god damn all right

let's move on so chowdered Okay, our next case comes from Abigail L. Thus, I lay this case in your capable hands. Wow. My players and I have all agreed you should decide who has razzing rights. Whoa.

We love this. So this is kind of more like civil court because we're dispensing rasing rasing rights. We do not take this lightningly. Yeah. To the members of the highest court in the land and their little rinky-toed bailiff. I've got it back out of rinkie-toe. I bring you the case of the misplaced corpse. My party had captured a hostile noble that our rogue decided to send ahead of us as a meat shield while we explored a castle.

Predictably, upon entering his first room alone with the rest of us cowered behind, like lily-livered bailiffs, our meat shield was slain by a flying sword. Alas. Upon clearing the room, one PC asked to roll perception to find something to hide the evidence of our crime. times. Nat 20. Ooh. The DM ruled that we found an invisibility cloak, which we quickly used to wrap the body. Whoa, okay. Immediately, our greedy party realized that an invisibility cloak was a magical item unworthy

of our short-lived companion. Sure. And wanted to reclaim it for ourselves. Right. The DM asked for another perception check. Naturally, we rolled in Nat 1. Yeah. It was ruled that the invisible body was so well hidden that we could not find it.

And we continued on our quest without our undeserved spoils. And seen. And seen. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Justices, there is no defendant on the stand as we all accepted this ruling.

And I later DM'd a one shot where the slain noble stalked the party as an invisible revenant. But I still wonder, can you immediately misplace a dead body that you just hid in a room cloaked or not? I mean... I think you absolutely can.

That's just a really funny dunk. I mean, like... A not 20 to a net. one the dice supports it for sure yeah i guess like if you're getting into like the technical aspects of it like with invisibility you can still smell things like you would still smell you know the piss and shit from this fresh corpse yeah true yeah i mean you can definitely make that argument but also this makes me laugh oh yeah no no no here's the deal yeah this is man this is an actual this is a very tough one no you're right if if if they double down and they said okay we're gonna try to

sniff it out yeah yeah then i'd be like okay but then if They're like, but then you tried to sniff it out. You already did your perception check. You got a one. Well, but if you put in time, you can do more than one perception check. Yeah. I guess so. Maybe this is just the type of D&D we play where I'm like, okay, you've done like just a perfect bid in this room.

Like the room is clear. I know. You've like, you S ranked this room with your bit. You have to move on. Yes, that's my feeling too. It's just like perfect. Yeah. I guess it depends on what kind of room, right?

Yeah. Because there is a world. If it's a stinky room. Where if you are in a giant dungeon and there's like some huge cavernous room, you could, you know, fail enough to not remember where you put it or something like that. Or think you put it somewhere or it fell to a different area and it's like harder to find. Or it could have fell down a trap door or something like that. Like you are in a dungeon. Oh, yeah.

Right? So like something, a gassed could have came and stole it. A chasm. Something, you know, there's like monsters and stuff about. So, yeah. So it does kind of feel like the most satisfying thing, though, is to stick with that. And then later the, they trip over something and they didn't see what they tripped over. And it was. Although it would be really hard. Like the Nat one, again, it's going to happen 5% of the time. Is there a 5% chance that you would hide something in a room and then not be able to find it? Probably not. I think I'm just like on board with this call. And it makes me. Yeah. Like religiously it works. Not 20 and a Nat one. It feels too good. bookends. Yeah, but like, I mean, if you guys like had been like, oh, can we do a perception trap to try and smell it? If you guys like cast any magic, can I cast fairy fire? Because, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. There are things, steps you could have taken to try to more actively. So if you

did just wholly get shut down, I guess that's technically not fair. At the end of the day, I don't think the DM deserves to even get razzed for this decision, whether it was. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I also, yeah. Because it's about razzing rights. Oh, this is about rasing rights. It's about Razzing rights and they kind of dunked on them. And also, it's not just the, it's not just a 5% chance because it's a, it's the chance of going from a Nat 20 to a Nat 1. Yeah. That's true.

That's interesting. If we're talking about razzing, there's no way the DM gets razzed for this. Yeah. The players have to get razzed for this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because they got greedy. Okay.

They got greedy. They got greedy. They got something really good to hide their thing. And then they were like, actually, we want the thing. And then they got greedy. And then the dice were like, you were greedy. Yeah. The goof was given. The goof was rescinded.

Yeah. Yeah, and this is all kind of in the same, like, voice, right? It's all in the same flavor of game as, like, you guys are being silly. You guys are sending the noble ahead to be like a meat shield. And then, you know, in Monty Python, Holy Grail, like, something like this would happen. They would, like, lose something because it was invisible. Yeah. The only button on this joke is that you do see, like, a naked mole man, like, pick up the cloak and run away with it.

Yeah. Yeah, I would, I want is, like, you guys do the whole dungeon and then on your way out, someone gets like a not one to avoid a trap and then like they trip over something and then they like uh kick a little bit of the invisible cloak off the dead body i do think yeah it's without knowing how what the room is like it's like if it's any kind of small room with not a lot of stuff in it it it would be impossible to not find it eventually by just being like i know we hit it in a corner there's fucking four corners of the room we'll just go kick at where we think it might be true but if it's if it's huge and there's a bunch of stuff around and it's cover in something they destroyed stuff stuff happened with the fight they buried it under some stuff like i don't know people can yeah if you're in the famed cumberland caverns in Tennessee then like yeah there's a lot of places well what kind of animals they got in there bats what kind of pizza they got there you know wine fish the pizza the pizza the hot chicken is so wet i think i think justice axford brings up a great point in that we're not establishing

any kind of like law here or like a true ruling. This is a civil case about who should get razzed. I think the spirit of all of this was very goofy and funny. And your DM picked the funniest thing. And I do think they have some grounds to do that. Yeah. I think they get their razzing rights. So I think that you have the razzing right.

I think I mean like a DM is always going to get razzed just by definition that's going to happen. But I feel like maximum you get razzed for one session and then it's dropped. I think much like this bit, it's dropped. The DM got you here. The DM just got you here. Yeah, you got got your bell rung. In another, in another campaign, this might not have worked, but I think it sounds like from the way y'all are playing, this is fair game.

So unfortunately, we are going to send Lightning McQueen through your wedding. Yeah. So you, unfortunately, you're going to get rest. Your DM is allowed to razzium. Razzin rights have been awarded. Yes, to the DM. Wow. Congratulations.

Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Okay, one more case. This one comes from Siren Sing Songs to the Honorable Judges and Joseph. Close. I present the case of stealth turned performance. If that sounds like a nonsensical case, it is because I believe my players have made a nonsensical choice. Okay, I'm going to tell you my gut reaction is in real life if I got caught in the middle of a stealth, I'd try to turn it into a performance, so I'm not opposed. Yeah, I'm thinking specifically of Wayne's World 2, where they're dressed as the village people and they're all around spying on the bad guys, and then they get caught on stage and they play YMCA and they have to perform. Yeah, so there is some Wayne's World precedent. Yeah. Wait, keep in mind the Wayne's World 2 precedent, but go on.

Continue. Okay. I was DMing a campaign for my three players, a bard, a warlock, and an artificer. The party was attempting to sneak into a prison for a prison break, and upon failing their group stealth check, I narrated that a few guards turned their heads and began heading their way. After hearing this, the barred of the party asked if she could roll a performance check instead of stealth and begin an impromptu dance routine with her background as a performer. The other party members asked to help.

I asked, are you sure? To which they all said yes and rolled performance. I mean, go to God. Judges, they rolled a 23 group performance check. And I narrated that on such a high role, multiple guards recognized. them and apprehended them. All was well, and it wound up being a good way to get them into the prison for the prison break operation they were trying to complete, but my party still razzes me. Oh, it's another case about razzing. But my party still razzes me to this day.

I razz them in return for choosing to draw attention to themselves when they were trying to be sneaky. But they claim it was such a high role they should have, quote, blended in with street traffic and avoided the guards altogether. This sort of takes me to an old ruling where it's Like, yeah, if you jump off a cliff and doing a 25 athletics check or something like that, that just means you do two sweet flips before you splatter on the ground. You know what I mean? Like you succeeding on that check to not be noticed, you would have to do a dance routine. Had you said, okay, we've been noticed, I want to do a deception check to blend in with the crowd or something like that. I think you have more of an argument there.

Yeah, if I'm the DM, I'm like, I'm open to that pivot from stealth to performance. However, this one doesn't have justification behind it. If I'm kind of like, you got to give me a reason why the guards aren't going to be like, why are you here to begin with? Why are you doing this show here? You got to say, we're going to perform at the prison. And in which case, I'm more open-minded. Right. And then in which case, it's deception, too.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the role is deception for sure. You know, I think in a perfect world, they roll really high in performance. It sounds like the situation is they were in like a town square or something, but also trying to get into like a prison nearby or something like that. Because they said they would blend in with the other townsfolk was like their words.

Right, with street traffic, yeah. Yeah, so blend in with street traffic. So there is a world where you could have been like, okay, you're doing this great performance. You've started to gather a crowd. Do a deception check to show that you're not just doing this like super. near the prison and you're already wanted criminals yeah you know what I mean I think you guys are right though because like now that I know that it's like they're blending in within street traffic then they might be street performers so that makes more sense however I do think that there is

an element of deception yeah yeah definitely it's it's almost maybe a two-role situation so they're yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what I'm gonna say here I'm gonna say no one deserves to be razzed here whoa I'm gonna say this was everyone learning together this is everyone learning Rasing rights rescinded Razzing rights revoked You all need to be really fucking serious About this Because I'll say

Getting caught And then being like I'm gonna roll a deception Or a performance check To me actually totally tracks I know the submitter was like Thought that that was nuts Especially if you're in the flow of foot traffic

Yeah of course you're gonna just be like What me? Oh I was just poking my head around You know Like of course you're gonna lie in that situation or whatever That's like totally normal Yeah if you're doing like a show time dance you like grab onto the bars and then flip off of them but then you also peek through the bars so i think this wasn't an absurd i it's a little bit absurd to be like uh i'm trying

to hide so i'm going to dance i think the players could have done a better job of being like i'm trying to make it seem like i belong here or i'm trying to draw a crowd to create some distance between me and the guards because maybe you could have even narrated that like you do see people start gathering around you the guards obviously notice you but you see it's taking a little bit time for them to get to you, roll another stealth check as you disappear amongst the crowd. You know what I mean? There's like kind of a way you could have played ball with them a little bit. That being said, that would have been you really going above and beyond. They didn't give you a ton to work with here. They just said they started dancing after they got caught. So you're also

within your right to just be like, cool, you dance as you get taken to jail. So I think, you know, I think you had a pretty down-the-middle reaction to that, and I think that they panicked and had a panic role. Yeah. I think no one should get raced. I think this is pretty down the middle. Yeah. No razzing. Wow.

You remain razzless. We're on your side, but you're not allowed to make fun of your players, okay? Yeah, dude. Okay. Now, with that, shall we step into church for this week's confession? Please, let's drive Lightning McQueen down the aisle. Seven of the church where there is a marriage. that Lightning McQueen is crashing.

Okay, this one comes from Bex. To the most holy and exalted clergy of our Lord, Dice Christ, I come before you with not a confession, but to ask for your blessing. What? I started playing D&D with my siblings many years ago, and now we are all adults with jobs and busy lives, so we rarely play all together.

Aw. I find that after listening to Nadpod and other shows, I'm inspired and really miss playing. so I am looking into joining an online game this your honors is where I ask for your blessing I have never played with anyone but my siblings and I am really nervous to role play and just overall play differently than how I'm used to

I ask oh holy ones to bless me in the name of dice Christ so that I may have courage and maybe a crit on finding a new group to adventure with what about if this person plays his Lightning McQueen whoa perfect that is icebreaker It's got to work once, right? If it didn't work the last time, we'll do. We're due for it to work.

You need to double down on it, though. We give you our blessings. This is very sweet. I think, you know, if you're inspired by stuff like NADPOD and other actual plays and stuff, I would honestly look within those communities and see if there are other people who want to play that listen to actual plays and stuff.

And you might be more likely to run into people that, I don't know, want to play a game more like you. With this vibe. I also think that there's like kind of, I feel like, I just feel like there's not a wrong way to role play if you're having fun. Yeah. I don't, I really think if you're, if like that sounds very trite, but I really think that if you're having a good time, then you can't really miss step.

Put that quote on a bench. The only way you can misstep is if you're like biting someone's shoulder who's sitting there. Yeah. Or if you're like a sorcerer, if you're a wild magic sorcerer and you're doing it a little too much. You have to be having fun with the table, not just one other person at the table. So I think if your heart is open to it, you don't have to be like, you don't have to be like,

oh, my good actor, you don't have to be like, is my character good? You know, none of those questions. Find it on its feet. Yeah, and also like being like a,

if you're more of like a crunchy player or something like that, you can find tables like that. Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of tables out there. I think just try to find, and also be willing to don't feel like

you need to stick with the first table that you meet, especially when you're like playing online. Like, feel free. If it's not, if it's not the vibe, bounce on out of there. and you'll find a new table.

You know what the best part about this is? What's that? After you play, you can text your siblings and talk to them all about it and then give you advice on how to play your character. Oh, yeah. Or maybe they'll want to play. Maybe it'll reignite it.

It's true. I would honestly like float it and be like maybe we get a Zoom game going once a month or something like that. That might be fun. Maybe next time we're all at the beach house. Yeah. Hell yeah.

That sounds fun. Yeah. So I mean, at the very least, start doing it just to make your siblings jealous. To reignite that game. That's your real purpose here. so go with the blessing yeah go with our blessings when they hear about your lightning queen rogue they're gonna be so jealous uh and with that we're gonna go ahead and wrap this one up thank you all

to take a kachau action go ahead thank you all so much for listening uh we have more insanity over on our patreon patreon patreon dot com slash nad pod uh that's any dd p o'd don't sing yet this week we're doing we've been mixing it up every other d and d court instead of doing more d and d court we do just kind of a random mixed bag type thing for the short rest tier. This week we watched cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue, which is a 1990

cartoon special sponsored by the government for like the just say no to drugs campaign. I won't say anything else. Yeah, and we won't, we're not going to tell you, let's just say there's a lot of cartoon freaking heavy hitters there. It's star studded. It's so freaking star studded. Pactcast.

It's very funny, very fun to watch. I don't have any very funny episode that we've actually already recorded. We won't spoil it for you. We can confidently say it's awesome. Yeah, we can confidently say that it rocks. We've got some stuff to plug. We've got Dementia 20 live show coming up.

See Starstruck in Las Vegas on November 1st at MGM. You can get tickets. Just search Dimension 20 live. And I'll shout out Jeff S for the Magic the Gathering cards. The Secret Layer Drop cards were so cool. and I'll have to check out Final Fantasy 16. I saw that there's a Play-Doh

Secret Layer set coming out soon which seems like Play-Doh. I think they like sculpted all of the art out of Play-Dus. Secret Layers so cool. I'll plug, you know, this is crazy. I'll plug Anamonoguchi. They're a band. They have a new album that came out

and it's a little more, it's less chip tune and more pop punk and it really just hit the spot for me and they're touring now. So if you go, if they're coming to you, go see them live because they rock. Awesome. And I'll plug my substack.

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Let's do some Kubla-Kane and get nasty. All right. Jet S. S. Snailus, who's infecting Worstashore for Within. Death to tyrants. Mimau Skides. Megan N. Genevieve of the C. Anthony B. Ballinor's best friend, Steve, Stephanie of House in Zunza, Benjamin A, Gimley, the Corgi, Paw, and Foster's K-Nine friend, Michael A, S-S-S, tier, quick water, enjoyer, Josh H, pilot of the Nightmareverse flight, the two crew blew through, Kelsey A., Ethan the Mailman, Maple the Shy Bookworm, Nick A.J, Ashesaurus, Seth, the Stroker, bearer of all hog-related burdens. Billy Batson, Tori, the tungsten, Dragoose, accidental shareer of recipes, Michael L.S. the second. Carl B. Plummer of the Realm. Ace dregs, High Lord of Critsburg. Vin Diagram. Catamillius. The Consumed.

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Jen's Rules Kinda, Caitlin H, Butwax, Pramilla Hibble-Pabble, featuring Plumbo, Thomas C, and of course, Dark Lotus Creations. Thank you, everybody. That was a hate gum podcast.