Not Another D&D Podcast - D&D Court: Dog Borrowers, Fire Immunities and The Stolen Goodberry Miracle

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

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bail of Jake, just the one lowly. What a bloody lowly it is. Yeah, it was so casual. The thing about the word lowly is like you're having to stick your tongue out on that L noise. You're going like lowly lowly. It really good. I didn't realize it was flirty. I like it. It was a little flirty. Yeah.

A tonguey flirty lowly. There was like a silent hello before that lolly. It's not even lolly like regular lolly. It's lolly like lolly from the busy world of Richard Slurry. Yeah, the little worm guy who was cute. Oh my god. Can you imagine Jake pulling up in an apple car?

Wow, dude, you drive an apple car? Show us your fucking apple car, man. I have a Toyota. I have a Toyota If you don't remember Nick Jr. from the 90s Let's face it you can't do a podcast with me and called will Yeah, yeah, no, I know. I saw how silent. No wheels were spinning, but they were catching on the carpet.

The wheels on the Apple Car were spinning. Anytime there's a reference to like a cartoon from 30 years ago, I see the panic and Jake and Emily's eyes and a smooth smile on my head. And I look directly at Galdwell. And I just have a conversation with Galdwell about it. You know what's tough? Like Emily remembers none of it.

She had no exposure to it. I had a little, I kind of remember Richard Skitt. Yeah. The Apple Car conjured something, but I don't recall it. Yeah, the Apple Car did conjure something for me. It's a worm that drives an Apple Car. But the confusing thing is that Apple is now a tech product. So when you said Apple Car, I glitched between like,

I glitched between a car that looks like an Apple and an Apple. No, we're talking about an actual Apple. An actual Apple. He hollowed it out himself. He's got one sneaker because he's a worm. He drives that thing around. He's friends with a cab.

She's great. Sounds really good. Apple's leaving money on the table by not making this actual car. By not friends with a cab. She's great. Sounds really good. Apples leave in money on the table by not making this actual part. By not making an actual bolly, apple gnar. Anyway, I think we can firmly say we can move on. Yeah, throwing to you, Jake. With that, I suppose.

I will say here you here you crit is now in session, the honorable supreme crit justices, Axford Murphy and Tanner residing. Hi. Welcome to our busy world. It's busy world of Richard. It's the busy world of Richard. It's not the guy's name is Richard. It's not the fair world of Richard. No, that's different to me. That's a different show. And that world is not busy because it's haunted. So there's not a lot of people around I've been busy killing people

This I'm wondering how many people are gonna remember the busy world of Richard scary it persists I just busted out that book for Sid. It's great. All right. Oh, oh For new generation it's still awesome everybody. Yeah James in space writes high justices. Hello Jake James in space writes, hi justices, hello Jake. Whoa. I don't know why I was informal to me, because you don't have the car. Right, that's true. I'm a first time DM for a crew of improvisers

who have never played D&D before. Second session, my players help save a halfling farmer from an evil scarecrow. The farmer had a loyal mastiff named Fig Newton who fought alongside her, even serving as the half-things Steve. Oh, I'm so sleepy.

Yeah, of course my players fell in love with Fignuten the mastiff as I expected. Yeah. Having cute NPCs is a treat for your players, but then as they were leaving the party's sorcerer tried to essentially steal Fignuten by attempting to lie to the farmer, claiming the adventurers needed the dog to help save the world. She rolled a 23 on deception, so I allowed it. But I was sure to describe how sad the farewell was and how Fignoon kept whining and looking back to the farm.

Which I think is a pro-merf move. Yeah, they're really, they're really, they're really, they're, this is what I would have said to do. Yeah. You executed this perfectly thus far. Fignun helped the party on their way, and since he's friendly and his owner had told him to help them, I gave the animal handling checks a low DC,

so they were no problem for the sorcerer. But since I kept mentioning how despondent the dog seemed, one of my players, not the sorcerer, finally took the hint and ordered Fignun to go home. I immediately narrated how with the delighted rough, the mastiff trotted off back toward the farm. Happy ending, right? Well, now my sorcerer is pissed at me. She says if I was just going to ruin the fun and take the dog away, I should have never allowed her to make the deception roll at all. Justices, should I have told her she couldn't take Fignutin in the first place? I'm trying to get my head around this because I have a

dog. Jake, you have a dog. Is there any circumstance where you just give up your dog? Like if somebody pushes you out of the street. Well, if someone said I need this dog to save the world. I would say let the world burn. Vigo Mortensen, hey, Vigo Mortensen shows up in full-era gornier and I need to borrow this dog. Okay, I got you asked, I'm like, how many weeks are we thinking?

I would say we're a package deal. If you go, you're taking me as well. I'm a bigger liability. I'm a bigger liability. I'm a bigger liability. I'm a bigger liability. I'm a bigger liability. I need a little dog.

I think the thing that confuses me as a player is I understand wanting to see if you can get fig new in. I don't understand going the deception route. I just go for asking. Can I have fig new? Excuse me sir, your dog served us so well in battle. Can we have her? Yeah, maybe fig new wants to go away on it. That's fun for dogs. You know sometimes Dingo goes upstate and he loves it. That's true. Yeah, I try tovin' as that, you know? Yeah, it's a play date.

It's a battle play date. You need to show this farmer, I think it was a farmer, right? Yeah. You need to show this farmer pictures of all the dogs in a big swimming pool, be like, this is where we're going. Right. I don't think he has anything wrong.

Anything I could say, because it's like, is 23 deception enough to convince this farmer that you need their dot? Well, yeah, probably it is, right? Yeah, it's because the farmer used the talking battle. So like the like DC recommendations for something that's like quote unquote,

like almost impossible is DC 30. So you could have said it at 30 being like the idea of convincing someone to give you their dog is almost impossible. I'm gonna speak completely out of turn, because I don't know this. Isn't there a thing that's like insight versus deception?

Yeah. Like to try and figure out if someone is lying. Right. Yeah, I mean, like again, the forces darkness if Sauron's army descended upon me and then Vigo saved me and like my dog jumped into battle and fought bravely alongside Vigo. Yeah.

Well also, the DM didn't do anything in this situation. Yeah, you didn't do anything, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk.

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All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the DMs, I need to talk. All the fun. Without that sort of deception. I am privy to tantrums and how to deal with them now. And I feel like it does apply in D&D a lot more than it should. What you need to do is just distract them with another dog. Yeah. As soon as they're upset that you took their dog away,

just be like, oh, look, what's this? A dog with wings? Oh, and it's got familiar stats? Incredible. Oh, wow. And it wants to be your friend. You get to name it too. My initial reaction is just kind of

read the room here, Sorcerer, right? Like, it's pretty clear. If I'm the Sorcerer and I did all of this, then the dog just leaving. I think that sounds like a funny story we would all laugh about. So I don't understand what they're upset about. There is, you know what?

I wonder, let's do a generous read for the sort who are here. So specifically, it was said, bunch of improvisers, they have not played swear for the tea to pour. It's not even gonna fake this, Mark. You would have to boost my aw, but that's not true. you would have to boost my on. That's not true.

You would have to boost it. You would have to boost our spirit, man. Leave it in, leave it in, leave it in. Leave the liquid. The liquid sounds are loud and distracting. It's probably just gonna be a little, sorry. Just getting here with a bigger mug. Getting here with a big mug.

Everybody listening at home is gonna be like, why did the audio just drop out? Yeah, instead of working for a full T-pot. Stop bringing full T-pots into the recording session. I mean, Emily's just full on Busy World over here. She is just pouring T-pots in T-pots for various animals. She's the freaking Busy World, the Richardstie over here. Ooh! I see this is sort of rousing you need to bring to that source room. Okay, so let's try to do a generous

read, right? Yeah. So first time a player essentially, there are a bunch of improvisers. Maybe we as D&D people place more importance on our NPCs and our world and stuff like that, whereas this player's coming in here and it's just like, yeah, we're just playing, Fig Newton's funny. Let's just have Fig Newton around. Yeah, also like the generous read could be this,

the sorcerer isn't like, I want this dog. It could be like, oh, we're all having fun with this dog. I'm gonna make sure that this dog sticks around. Yeah. I mean, if you're playing kind of an asshole sorcerer, it's kind of funny just to be like, hey, I need your dog. Give me your dog, yeah.

It is a funny way to deceive sorcerers. Although, I need it to save the world. The ultimate problem here, like the DM's not even complaining about them stealing the dog. The DM's like after another player gave the dog back, the sorcerer essentially got mad and realized. And I think that that's on them. That's not on you.

I think you kind of did it. I think you rolled with the fun. Yeah. And you continued the bit. You let the dog. Yeah, you really did. You made the dog sad. Yeah.

And the other player took action. And then the sorcerer is the one that checked out is like, I am IRL piss. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. I think you were trying to just, you know, you were trying to roll with the punches. You didn't want to railroad your players. You were letting them do checks and everything.

And then they rolled really well. And even though you were doing the DM wink, wink, please don't do this. Think I'm doing it anyway. Right. You could do a really good dog a sex machina in the future though. Oh, I think you were in the future.. Oh, fake and then you would show up.

Yeah. And then you would show up. Yeah. Oh my God, that's so good. The return of big. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder maybe the DM just didn't feel like running fake newton all the time and didn't want to just give people.

It does set a dangerous precedent, right? Because on the one hand, I'm like, you could have maybe just made it not sad and had it just been like, yeah, fake Newton's gonna go off with them for a little bit and then it'll be reunited with their person in, like a couple weeks or something, it's just like going to Dougie Daycare or something, and it's fine. And just everybody's happy, it's not controversial. They get a bath. They get, it's all good. The problem though is that then that does set up the expectation that every single time the players want something they can just take. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Love this NPC. You're in our party now. Please leave your family. Yeah, yeah. It sets up that expectation. So I've talked to myself out of any defense of the sorcerer that I could possibly have. Yeah, yeah.

I think Murm is right. You could have just given them the dog, but I also think that sticking to the logic of the moment was also fun. So yeah, I think you did nothing wrong. In fact, I think you're the right one. Yeah, I think I probably would have done the same thing. And I think the sorcerer is gonna need to get punished. Oh, you did this for that.

Because I want to see if it will pick up my voice, like it does my tea tree. Like it does your tea. Like it does my tea tree. Like it does your damn tea. Picture Emily menacingly lifting the tea to her lips. That's true. Yeah, the sorcerer would not let the bit die. So now they must die a painful death via public embarrassment. Apple crash.

Apple crash. Apple. What did you say? Apple did you say Apple car crash Apple car crash or Apple car has to crash. Yeah, they have the drive in Apple car off a road like Thelma and Louise Oh Apple car crash with the Tesla so it's an Apple Tesla vendor vendor Okay, so Richard's very Apple car. It just breaks the skin of the Apple.

Oh, that's bump into a Tesla. bump into a Tesla. Maybe in a parking lot. Yes. Right? Because that's a little bit easier. So we're going to give you a fresh, slowly Apple car. Like a busy supermarket parking lot.

Yeah, busy. It's our shopping. It's a busy supermarket parking lot. And I have something you can say when this all happens. Okay. Get them in the accident. Yeah. Then you walk something you can say when this all happens. Okay, get into the accident. Then you walk over knock on the Tesla's window and you say,

gee, I thought this had to be one of the driverless cars. I can't believe someone's actually driving like this. Yeah. You have to do this a bit. Yeah, as you're walking over, you have to be muttering, well, how am I gonna get the insurance from a driverless car?

Because I don't know how to drive it. don't know how long these cars take to grow. So yeah, much like you love to commit to a bit, you have to commit to the bit of driving an apple car for the rest of your life. You do apple car, fender bender, you do a Tesla, you do a tight five about how you thought the Tesla must have been driverless because of our bad they were driving Even though the apple car crash is going to be your fault Yeah Okay, yeah, so ordered and there's no way the apple car is like road safe

Not you're gonna never be able to drive It's a golf car. It's a piece of fruit with a golf cart in jail. Yeah. You pedal it like a bite of a prop. And it smells so bad. It's a real rotten, it's a real huge apple. It's gotta be a real apple. It's gotta be a real huge apple. Okay, sweet, so ordered, so appled.

Sure. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, totally. ordered so apple. Sure. Yeah. Sorry. Totally. Absolutely. Trevor, can you, you don't have to cut the joke but just whatever, what Emily's doing now,

this laughter, can you cut this laughter in? So, after, after. That's the driver of this car. Yeah. Basically, take any raucous laughter and you're spurted. Yeah, any clever quick. That kind of might have. Oh, I hope so. If I say anything dumb, take it out.

Italy formalty. All right. All right. Alec P. writes, intro free 2023. So let's forget their name is even Alec. Okay. Yes. Thank you for committing their name is even Alec. Okay. Okay. Yes.

Thank you for committing. We appreciate you. Whoever you are, there is a heated debate in our group that has made me at odds with my usually loving wife. And it's over something as petty as the numbering of our sessions. Whoa. Oh yeah.

As the DM, I write at the top of my prep notes in big bold letters, which session I'm prepping for. Fifth get together, fifth session, easy, right? Yeah. The players are aware of the numbering system, and we use the numbers to keep track of how long we've been playing. The problem comes in the fact that early on in our campaign, a session ran long, and we ended up getting together the next night to finish it up. This extra session ended up being the same length as a regular get together. My wife insists that this was not a new session and therefore shares a number with the previous session. I say that's ludicrous because that's not how counting works. Every game now starts

with an argument over which session we're about to play and I fear our marriage cannot take much more of this clerical pettiness. Please, justices help us put into this. PS, this is all light-hearted fun that we are here. Yeah, it is rock solid. No, of course. You know who would say that? Someone whose marriage was not rock solid. What?

Why? They're in shambles. Welcome to divorce court. Yeah. We will decide whether or not you're going to make it or not. No, it's just very weird. Weirdly, I kind of, my knee jerk reaction right now in this moment is, I have two knee jerk reactions.

One is you're the one, yeah, I've got two knees, so I've got your reaction. You're bumping the table a lot. Yeah, you're really hard to do. You're filling T-A-R-R-R-R-R. Oh shit. I'm feeling like, okay, you're the one, like doing the sessions,

you can label it, but honestly, my gut and my left knee is going with the wife. Why? For some reason, I'm a wife guy on this one. Yeah, I agree. It's a time and time and time and time and time and time and time. It's a session, it was a part two. But it was a step by step.

It was a step by step. It's literally a session though. They literally it's a special it's a special Are you saying that like if you had like a feature length episode of a TV show and it was like split? It was still being a and B what no I'd be like episode 12 then episode 13 It wouldn't be episode 12 B. I mean the first episode of Battlestar Galactica is a special I believe it's like hour 20 So it's one episode yeah, so that's one episode. Yeah, and if they did it one night, that would be the one session,

but this was split up into two. Right, but I'm saying it was supposed to be one session. I can't believe this is controversial. I'm not saying that. This is slam dunk. I'm not saying this is logical. I'm not saying that this is anything. I'm speaking for my knees and my gut.

Okay, don't ask. In the world, let's think with our brains. In the world, like a time continued as normal, like outside of the world, you split it, but like you have to observe that, like this is just like one story session. The issue comes with the fact that they are calling it get together and session.

So it's like, but both are the same thing. I know, I put like why are they saying get together and session. So it's like, both are the same thing. I know I put like why are they saying, get together and session. You wouldn't have to. Yeah, right, but this person is saying for fifth session, I write fifth get together fifth session, which is kind of the person who submitted this is writing that to make their point is is saying, get together five, session five, because it would be strange to say, get together six, session five B. That doesn't make any sense.

Oh, I see. I thought they were writing, I thought they were writing two numbers at the top of our... They're writing two numbers, I think, to make the point. Which would allow for this sort of naming convention, if they're doing get together and episode or session rather, then like it is true that there are shows that have like part two. But that is still it would still be like the reunion part one. Episode 12 of season one, the reunion part two, episode one of season two.

Right. I'm not going with precedent. I'm going with, I get it. You guys got together thinking you were doing just a little extra. So that was, so if they had gone together and just done 20 minutes to wrap it up because it went long, would that have not,

would that have been its own session? I think that probably still would have been, well, it depends on if you count that as a full session. It probably wouldn't be a full session. What I'm saying here is, if we do an episode of NAD pod, and I have a bunch of notes, there have been many times where we hadn't finished what I haven't had prepped, but we still, we called it, that's the end of that session,

that's the end of that episode. Then we start a new episode, and we start with what I had, left over, and some more stuff. It's not just what's in the book. But this person wasn't, this, like, they got together literally the next day to finish up, right? Isn't that what it said?

I would argue that it would be a different episode, but it's still the same session. I think session is about the play and the story and the narrative. Episode is how you divide it. Doesn't make sense. Look at space is so red, he's Apple card over there.

I know. I'm bad. You got two Apple cars for Cheek. Yeah, I'm furious. This logic is bananas to me. I thought for some reason that there were two numbers at the top of each of these things, but it's all just one. It could just be one.

Yeah, I think that is what it is. This person is calling a get together a session and the wife is suggesting that having two get together is more one session makes it, it's all one session. I understand why this is tearing apart your marriage because it's apparently tearing apart. It's tearing apart hours. Yeah. But now that I've come to this realization,

I am on merch side, so. Thank you, you're so sweet. I'm getting, man, you are gonna make it. We're gonna make it. I'm gonna abstain. I'm gonna, opinion, opinion are gonna make it. We're gonna make it. I'm gonna abstain. You're gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna abstain. Opinions are too heated in this court. That's an interesting idea.

I think I'm gonna abstain as well. Oh my God. I hate this. You know what? I feel like I was accused of always being in the Ernie and I feel like I want a burnt on this one. I'm dying on this hill. Yeah.

Gets together, some sessions are different. Get together, those in sessions are different. Get together. Yeah, a get together end of session could be different. Could be different if you were just truly showing up to be like, everybody pop by tomorrow, we're gonna do it for five minutes or whatever. Put the plate a full session. Right, but my argument is that the intent was,

okay, it's gone too late. Let's finish up this session tomorrow. Okay, that's the first. Which is different than, was, okay, it's gone too late. Let's finish up this session tomorrow. Okay, that's the first. Which is different than, okay, actually, you know what, this session feels like it's done. This one might just be unzommable. Well, I think you, I think at the end of whenever you're playing, it's almost like that is when you would declare

something being a session. It's not like you can say, at the top, this is not gonna be a session, but then play for two hours and feel like you know what that was. That was the end of it on a cliffhanger. There wasn't that like sigh of satisfied relief. And that's when you know the session is old. I don't think there, there doesn't need to be because sometimes you have a session and the players just don't do what you had laid out. And you. I think that you're thinking of a different situation, though. I think

that that's like, I think that this situation is, oh shoot, look what time it is. We all have to get home. You know what, let's meet up tomorrow and finish this up. Yeah. And that is different than. I get what you're saying, but I think once it goes for a certain amount of time,

I think this is just, if you are sitting or playing for a couple of hours, you're playing for a session. And I think ultimately, what they want to keep track of is how long they've been playing together and how many times they've gotten together and stuff. It seems arbitrary to be like, well, that one time, we did the story sort of from a previous session and then did more, so that doesn't totally count. I think you just make a cheeky nod to it.

You say, welcome to official session five on official session six Yeah, I think like what you have here is a gift and that is a Eternal bit that you can always argue about that safe and One of those little like smart Don't argue about it with murph What This is the point of the show for us to date Do you want to see? Oh my god his apple card is so small I agree It's faces as red as his apple card anyways

I fully abstained I abstained I abstained to Maybe oh shit should we just do Trabi combat you and me and will that'll decide? Yeah, okay, I love that so what we're gonna cut and then Murf and I are just gonna do it out Only Murf comes back He finished him my god, and we were gonna be canceling our live tour Okay, so are we kicking this back down to the lower crit? I feel like we're not,

are we not allowed to debate in this corny? How was that happening? I thought that was the fun of the show. I'm like me to have an opinion. It is, but again, I just don't wanna concede. Actually, all right, okay, so only me, so I'm abstaining from abstaining. I'm coming back, I'm just holding a paper

of just keeping it simple sessions and getting together to the same, I'm abstaining. Yeah, I'm abstaining. Great, okay. I'm abstaining, but for the record, I do agree with Justice Murphy. Great.

And if I weren't abstaining, I would be ruling in your opinion. I'm just abstaining because I just am going with flow. Which is why I'm abstaining. Yeah. I think Emily's brave for abstaining. I think Jake has a coward for doing it. Okay.

Really? I'll fight you for the verdict, too, dude. So we're split as a bit, but we're also split in real life, so it's fine. Right. Right. I think this is Emily's abstaining and Jake's abstaining. We're being sent by side in golf balls on it's fine. Right. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things.

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I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. I think this is all these things. Great. That's a 14. Wow, congratulations. Wow, right? This feels just a hollow victory. This is a, congratulations, man. How do you fucking feel? You're good. It's terrible. It's hollow. It actually kind of means something

because called well, usually rolls low. Usually rolls low. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, wow. Dicecrash really has decided. Yeah. Congratulations. Called well, might have the same curse that I do though.

Brennan wants me to joke that. I don't roll low, I roll bad. So when it's bad to roll high, I roll high. So I think he'll have to call his micers. So I never get the roles I want. It's the best. Yeah. Well, it feels weird, but we do have to punish this person

based on the dice roll as well. It's true. Right. Or punish this person's wife, I guess. Yeah. Maybe they get a check engine light in their Apple car. Oh, right? Because that's kind of a hassle.

You have to bring it to an orchard. Right. Yeah. You do have to. Yeah, it's a bring it to an orchard. It could be the spark plug. It could be spark bug. Yeah, you don't know if it's a car prop or an Apple prop.

So you're going to have to go to two people. You're going to have to go to the orchard and you're gonna have to go to a mechanic. That's gonna be your whole Saturday. Yeah. And this is just gonna be, yeah. So, Banana, we hope you marriage can survive this because the artist is not going to.

What? What? Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Shit, I'm suddenly single. Jake, call well, what are you guys up to? I'm not single Jake call well. What are you guys up to?

So fast so afraid to be alone This question is ruined like seven lives Roll to see you cheat on their wife. Sweet. Is higher level. That's so, Apple. Next question. So, Apple. I got an 11, which I think means nothing.

All right. So, Apple Apple Jared G writes I got to be mighty and terrible justices and junk And junk junk hard bits older more naming right junk and the trunk yeah I DM a political entry campaign in my players trapped several members of an enemy faction in a cabin They were meeting in.

They then lit the cabin on fire and ran away before authorities arrived. The next day, the party discovered one of the enemies had survived due to a magic item that granted him immunity to fire damage. They argued that even if he didn't burn to death, he would have died from smoke inhalation. Whoa. Okay, no. After some debate, I did a light retcon and said he lived, but he was in a coma which gave the party time to sneak into the infirmary and assassinate him.

No, you shouldn't have retconned. You shouldn't have retconned. Should I have stuck to my guns, to fire immunity, also grants smoke inhalation immunity, I throw myself at the mercy of the court. What, my only thought is, you could have put it to a role, but I don't think you owed them a coma because fire immunity would mean they just run out

without getting it. Exactly, yeah. No way if somebody coma was a really funny substance. Oh, were they trapped? Were they trapped in it? Yeah, yeah, they were locked. They said they were trapped in the cabin. Oh, that's a lot of stuff.

Essentially, as the cabin burns down, it's probably gonna be structurally Compromised and you if you have Right, but I mean by the time it's structurally compromised Maybe you would be getting really nasty. Yeah, that's true. No, yeah D&D is is not designed to deal with every single Little situation I to deal with every single little situation. I thought, yeah. Also in D&D, you could just chop through a wall. Right, you would just be like,

weapons can chop through wall. There are so many ways you can die if there's an actual fire. Like, beams could fall on your head. Right, things explode. Just like, yeah, my character has fire immunity. I think that means this person will die in a fire. You probably survive the fire. Of any of the ways you can die in a fire,

this person will die in one. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're die in a fire, this person will die in one. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're really getting down to like the brass tacks here. I feel like you gotta just let your DM have a win every once in a while. This? Yeah. Also to just be like,

well wait, we didn't kill every single bad guy right? Exactly. The first time I hate you. All of them are dead. All of them are dead except for one guy. You showed weakness when you retconed for them. You have to re-retcon. Yeah, now they can debate whether or not your guys actually lived or not.

Yeah. Yeah, I think they're dangerous precedent. I think you should lure them into a trap when they go to assassinate this person in a coma. Maybe they're not actually in a coma or maybe they're like other allies there. Yeah. I did. You give them fire resistant stuff, but then you burn down the hospital.

That there is. Well, you can't eat. Well, you can't eat. You suck on smoke. You can't eat. That's right. And none of the walls or windows can be broken with your magical weapons.

Right. Drink it up. Drink up the CO2. Yeah. I think like getting into the weeds on that stuff, it just reminds me of all the questions that are like, when we were fighting these crazy gorilla demons from hell, one of my players, a zoologist, experienced that, and ape would not be able to do the one-up people

to survive in hell. It's just like, yeah, because it's a fun and demon. It's different. I saw him in a kitten and I know that gorillas historically like playing with kittens. Yeah, exactly.

The only thing that I would think would be like a little shady on your part is if you had added the magic, the like item after they did. After where they did. Like that would, I wouldn't be okay with, but if you just, I mean, like resistances and immunities, they're, they have bounds.

They have bounds. This is all just fun. Of course you have to have that. It's not just, you know, it's- Anything is more fun to have one person get away. Exactly, you know? That's right. It's more interesting story-wise,

so it makes sense that like the the players do this run away. Yeah The one loose end the one loose This is like complaining that your rollercoaster had too many loop de loops Yeah, I went on a hike that was like a roller coaster the other day what it had like Traps it went upside down Because lots of ups and downs I was running where you got that giant emerald. Yeah, they shut down nods very far because we do. It's like a lady walking on the track.

In fact, I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to got that giant emerald. Yeah, they shut shut down knots very far because we Licky walking on the track I can get wearing huge Building a fire

Don't blame me. I'm newly single Okay, so who are we punishing here the players? Oh, the deal did ask where they run to the DM. Oh, that's the question. The true question that was, Could I have stuck to my guns? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What if one of the door, you know, stuck to your gun. I think you should have said that we do have to pick you. Yeah, yeah, cause what if one of the door, you know what, like sometimes a door will stop working on a car? Yeah, or your Apple car. Yeah, maybe one of the doors on your app, or your Apple car gets sapped. Whoa, that's where you park under, it's where you park under like a tree that's dripping sap

and then the door gets stuck shut. Yeah, oh wow. So you're gonna have to get into your apple car through the passenger side, which is really inconvenient. You have to zip a climb through the core. Busted apple car door. Okay, I had to look it up. I think the apple car doesn't actually have a door.

It's just got like one big windshield that opens and closes. Oh, okay. So yeah, that's like, if I get sapped, you're fucking up. Yeah, a lot of sap gets into the sapped, you're fucking on the wall. Yeah, right. A lot of saff gets into the wall. Stalk into a saffed apple car. Yeah. Okay, sweet, so apple.

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I present to you the case of the players versus the DM and the elevator. A few years ago, my friend was DMing a campaign set in the Star Wars RPG system on roll 20. I'm sick. Oh. At one point, we were captured by Imperials and upon getting out of the jail cells we were trying to navigate the escape from the multi-level prison while also trying to take out their leader. We came upon a room that had two circles in the middle.

We as players thought nothing of it, they were probably columns or some other decorative thing. We eventually find stairs and are able to make it to the top floor where the command center was but it took a long time for us to navigate the prison. At the end of the session, our DM laughs and says, those two cylinders that you guys ignored were elevators and would have made your lives easier. You guys didn't ask about them. This started an argument with us as the players saying, they're fucking elevators.

It doesn't require a special perception check to see elevators in the middle of a room, especially in Star Wars, where elevators are ubiquitous and usage. The DM just shrugged and said, you guys didn't ask. So, esteemed justices, was our DM in the right with holding information about the elevators without a specifically asking about them, or are elevators obvious enough that it should just be in the base description of the room?

I humbly await your judgment. This taps into an insecurity that I have, which is asking too many questions. Oh, I think so. Yeah, so like I feel you guys. That's a hard position. Yeah, to just say circles in the middle of the room. And I thought that at first I was kind of on the DM side, because I guess I was thinking more Star Trek than Star Wars, because I was thinking like, there's a little tractor beam thing. It's just like, is a teleporter. You just go stand in the circle and it takes you somewhere.

But if it's an actual elevator shaft in the middle of the room, then yeah, it is a little bit of an under-description. Yeah, yeah. They were playing on Roll 20, so I imagine there was like a map or something. Yeah, it's like a floor plan that you're seeing. So you see the circles in the floor,

but you don't really ask about them. Yeah, I would have I would have asked about those just because I would be like are those magic circles Yeah, I like circles in the middle of the room I can't see a situation where nobody asks what the circles are maybe I guess they were like being pursued They didn't have time to like investigate them But like you described would you describe an elevator as a circle? In Star Wars, maybe if it's a tube, I don't know. Yeah, I guess it's a tube. Yeah, if it were a tube, a tube V circle.

It would be like, okay, and then on your left, you see a stack of rectangles on the top of each other. Staving the shape. Yeah, more and more rectangles. More and more rectangles. Yeah, right. I think the shape. Like more and more rectangle. More and more rectangle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think your DM forgot what elevator's more. So you're looking for some notes, right?

You know, I don't know, rectangle in my room. If you guys have checked out, if you guys had gone into the big square and checked out the little rectangle, the little rectangle is actually a desk. I think part of that is on the, like the DM has that map. And the DM describes those things. As a straight call.

Oh, that's a good call, yeah. Yeah. I think elevators in the Star Wars universe, it's true, are just like what you're talking about. I don't know enough about Star Wars. They are just regular. Yeah, I don't know enough about Star Wars, you know, like, are you going on to an enemy ship

with a horn and tech to you? No, it's just straight up. Most, I mean, when I'm thinking about them, like going through the Death Star and stuff, it's just like regular ass elevators. like, you must go over to that series of cylinders. Yeah. Look at all those circles.

If you open the door, there will be a smaller circle inside. If you press the circle, something might happen. My programming does not allow me to know. Yeah, I kind of love this old situation. Because I also love the fact that DM was just like, shrunk their shoulders, I don't know. Yeah, it's not like it's funny. I do respect it a little bit.

I respect it. Yeah, I think they maybe undersold the circles. Yeah. When I do think it's very funny to just... I think the DM got a kick out of them not noticing. Exactly. I agree. I agree.

I think it was kind of done on purpose. I think it did. I didn't think it came out of Malice, maybe as much as amusement or entertainment. This is a DM mistake, and I've made this mistake before, but if you continuously do this, then every single piece of a room will be asked about because you point out specific things.

Like if somebody walks into a room in your game and there's just like a dead body in the middle of the room, you can't just go like, there's, you know, candles on the table and you guys are in the room. Sort of like a fleshy rectangle. There's a fleshy, oblong thing, but with like arms and stuff. A soldier approaches you holding some sort of weird pointy rectangle. You didn't ask about the pointy rectangle. Who's a freaking knife?

Dude. You're dead. You're already dead. I could see a situation where like if you are like headed down the stairs, you pass a room, you see like an open circular platform that has like a circular platform above. You might think it's got force field chambers. You know what? Sometimes I think if you go into a room rather than being like asking about every single detail, sometimes if you just do a perception check, they might be more or

less likely. Yeah, I can I do a perception check for a way to get up. Honestly, all of this is solved by if instead of circles, the DM said there are big tubes in the room. I honestly agree with the DM. Field tubes. Because if you think about it, like yeah, if you're in a room, if there's some kind of big tube that holds like an elevator shaft or whatever, you might not see the elevators right away.

You might have to go interact with it in some way. We're in a unique position here because we always play theater of the mind for the most part. On D20 I'll play with maps. But I feel like maybe when you're using maps more, you don't feel the need to describe stuff as much. You're kind of like, you're all is.

I'm wondering, it says that they were using the Star Wars thing on Roll 20. Roll 20 also just has modules and stuff, so I don't know that they're necessarily having a map for every single room, so. Also, sometimes the Roll 20 will obscure what you can see. Oh, true. Yeah.

And also, when I think tubes and Star Wars, I think of Bokta tanks. I think a loose sky marker like being suspended in one. So my tube does not equate elevator to me. When I think of tubes and star wars, I think of the scene where Leia's eating a hot dog. Oh, yeah. You're eating it in a tube top.

In a tube top. Oh, yeah. It's a big tube in a tube. Yeah, it's like I love this meat tube when you're wearing a tube top. Oh, I love the scene where Obi-Wan Kenobi hands that cylinder to Luke Skywalker and says this was your father's cylinder.

Right. So it's a good series. I think that you guys were kind of wronged, but I think that if I'm in your shoes, I'm not too mad at the DM because I don't think it came from a place of malice. Yeah. Jake, can you run it back? Did anyone like perish from this? They made it out okay, right?

No, I was just thinking that. But I'm almost like, it was worse than someone dying. It was like a slog. It's like, they said it took them a long time. Yeah, I wonder if that's, I don't know how the session went, but if I was bored a little bit during that, I would be like, interesting. Or not mad, but I'd be like, hey,

if they looked like all of the other elevators We've seen in any other room. I think they yeah It's such a funny Well, you didn't ask but I was in the room right? I would know there's little wax things with little fires in them You need candles I think what has been revealed here is that your DM is an alien from Star Wars and doesn't know what things are. Yeah.

I think circles, circles is underselling, had your DM describe them a little bit more they'd have a point, but I'm going to side with you I think. Yeah, I'm side with you too. Okay, so we're punishing the DM? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think instead of an Apple car, they get a circle car. Ready?

Or an Apple Vader. You look like an Apple Vader made up. It's yeah. Okay, yeah. I'm trying to picture how that would work. Oh, I think it's like, it's a big Apple. And then there's two apples and it's like a pulley system. And there's like a bunch of squirrels

at the top of the tree. Oh, and the pulleys are worms. The pulleys are worms. Yeah. Oh, that's good. Going up. And then you get in the apple style. So, so, so, you guys want to talk about the flitzzo?

How many weeks am I out of October? I'm surprised you're here right now, actually. Three months, steady three months off at this point. You've got a lot of banked, fleece and little years at this point. Yeah, I thought you were going to be in a visa this week. We mentioned Dino, the dinosaur pet, and now he's off for half the year. I do. So I so love the move, the idea as a DM, just being like, you go in the room, ask about, ask

about everything, ask me anything. You're in a box, ask me. Yeah, as a DM, just being like, you go in the room, ask about, ask about everything, ask me anything. You're in a box, ask me. Yeah. Yeah. Ask me everything. Okay, so they're writing it in Apple. Apple. They're writing it.

Okay, writing it, yeah. Yeah, so. Word of Polies. It sounds like a bad. Sounds bad for the worms, honestly. Yeah, I feel like I'm putting some worms. So this is from the scary life of Richard Busy. Yeah. You don't get to go to the busy world of Richard's scary.

You're going to the scary world of Richard Busy. I think the thing is, the elevator breaks down once you get to the top and then you're stuck up a tree. Oh, and then you free fall. Yeah, you hear the worms. And then the worms. And then the word. And then the whole time.

The worms say, gotcha. Yeah. Ah, gotcha. We're all stretched out because of you. Okay. So orchard. So orchard. Nice.

Oh, crazy. Yeah. So orchard. It's so orchard. Okay, James G writes, to keep things brief, one of my party members was unconscious and making death saves in a pit surrounded by fire. Smoke inhalation!

The dead already! I was 100 feet away with my turn. I bargained with the DM saying, if I stick a good berry on the tip of my crossbow bolt and shoot it in the air, what are the chances it happens to land zero in my party members' mouth. Zero.

We didn't have line of sight on their party members. I think they were surrounded by fire. Oh, okay. I got you. Okay, so this is real. The DM let me roll with this advantage and lo and behold, I rolled two net 20s. Okay.

Holy shit. The DM then asked me what I got to hit with my attack bonus, which was technically a 28 since I have a plus eight bonus to attack. The DM said, unfortunately, the DC for nearly impossible feats is 30, I'm sorry. I missed and my party member died the next round. I realized that I did not meet the DC,

but I asked the court, should that 20 still be rewarded, even if they don't technically beat the DC? I'd just bring it up because that was a double a double Nat 20 with this. Yeah, I mean, I'm again, I'm going with my gut. This isn't logic. If I'm your DM, I see the two Nat 20s and I'm like, what a gorgeous moment. We're all fucking celebrate this and remember this. Yeah, by the by the book, the DM did nothing wrong, but I am always, I'm of the opinion that don't let people roll if you know it's just going to be disappointment,

if it's not a game, you don't need to do that. If it's just, if this is not possible, don't even try. Yeah, yeah. No, this is, I mean, like, one that 20 would have been enough for me, but like the two, that signifies some sort of like divine intervention within the world that you explore later. Like that is, you have created a story moment.

Yeah, I mean, at that point, like you could even describe that in a quasi possible way. Like just saying, I shoot a crossbow bolt that shoots a good barrier. It's just like, no, you shoot the crossbow bolt. It goes into the side, it rolls. The person has their struggling rolls over and barely gets into the side. It rolls the person as they're struggling Rolls over and barely gets into their mouth. Yeah, there's a way

The thing I don't understand but it's not even the looney tunes the thing I don't understand is if I'm the DM I will be so excited I can't imagine that moment happening and then Saying no to it and not just like being like, what a fun moment. Yeah, it's just, it is fun at that point. Like, I agree that a nat 20 shouldn't be like auto success, but when it's something like that, when the person says, can I roll for this?

Just say no if it's completely impossible, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think, I don't really know how to rule on this because technically your DM is allowed to say that. I just cannot wrap my head around wider wood. This ass is too hard. What? The DM's being too much of a hard ass. Oh, okay.

We thought you were talking about your ass. I'm so huge. Did anyone know about your ass while wearing it? Guys, You're just writing about your ass while we're doing it. Guys, I don't notice how hard my ass is. You keep flexing your ass. We're chatting. It's getting picked up on the mic. We hear the cheats.

Anyone notice I've been balancing on one cheats? It sounds like some rocks scratching together. It's so hard. Cheats and cheeks. Yeah. That's not too coconut. It's playing a beautiful song. Yeah, that's my hard ass. Right on. Yeah, I will say when I heard this. It's playing a beautiful song. Yeah, it's my hard ass

Right on. Yeah, I will say when I heard this I played a Congo bongo bean When I heard this planet first I was like don't eat I probably would have had the exact same reaction at first that the DM said I would have said sure go for it with disadvantage and it's gonna be like impossible, per-tune. Yeah. The fact though that you got two net 20s, it's like, I as a DM, just if something's completely impossible,

I'm just going to say no. Or I'm gonna make it clear. If you're like, I wanna jump to the top of that thousand foot building. I might laugh and go like, yeah, roll, go ahead, go ahead. We'll see what happens. And it's just like a joke and we're all goofing around. But once you're like, I don't know,

when you're getting into the nitty gritty of it and everything, just why set up that disappointment? Like just, it takes the air out of the room. Especially to follow it up with a character death. Like, amazing move. And then the next round, it's like, I am this person is dead now. It's like, that's really tough. Yeah amazing move. And then the next round, it's like, I and this person is dead now. Yeah, that is, that's really

tough. Yeah. Yeah. You as the DM can say no, you can just say no, you cannot shoot a good berry into your friend's mouth with a crossbow, you maniac. Yeah, you can say that. That's fine. But once you bring it down a roll and they get two 20s off of a disadvantage. I feel like you guys were robbed. Yeah, I agree. This sounds like a really fun thing. It just sounds unfun. It was an Apple Car hijacking.

This was, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Apple Car got hijacked. I think this, I wonder if this ruling will be controversial, because I think they're probably are, they usually are. Yeah, I think every single thing is controversial.

But rules, rules as written going by the impossible 30 DC, I agree, but you do as a DM, you have to run the game in a way that is fun. I don't know, like, it ceases to be a game when things are completely impossible. It is definitely not fun to roll for something that is impossible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like in general.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess in special circumstances, if it's like, you see this God rips through the clouds and tries to speak to you and you're like, I throw a javelin at it. I crit and just like, and what is that total? It's only a 28. It doesn't hit. Oh no, this got his powerful.

Like that's one thing. But for this, it's just like, okay, you try to do this cool trick. You double crit even though you had disadvantage. Oh, sorry, just, it doesn't work. And the guy quietly dies in a fire. It's just, I don't know. It just doesn't do it for me.

No, I mean, the DM might have been like sweating because they really needed this. Well, this was just like a PC. I don't know. It's good. Yeah, Barry, they would've gotten one HP and then they would've went right down from the fire again. No, this DM crushed your dreams

in their Diamond Hardass. Yeah. This is a hard-ass cold-ass style. Right. I'm the new hard-ass. Should we take the padding out of their apple car, the seat? How about this? Yeah.

What if we were to ask, can sit on a rock seat in your apple car? A flinstone. A flinstone? A flinstone? Yes. You are now riding in a flinstone apple car. Because if you really think about it, they would have big apples in the flinstones, because you're spree-storked times, and things were bigger than the best.

Oh. That's actually the first thing that anyone has thought about Flintstones that I like. 12. She's coming back early. Oh, really? That's interesting. It's amazing.

It's brought us all souvenirs. Emily, what if I told you that Fred Flintstone eats really big ribs? Nah. Nah for me. She's leaving again. Shit. I like the big floor and not the big fauna.

Yeah. Okay. Do you guys want to step into church for a final dice converse? Yeah. Let's drive our Pope Apple Mobile. All right. This confession comes from actually someone who's written before puppet anal link.

Yeah. We were back. Well, it comes back to church. I bring you a confession while playing in a horror theme campaign. RDM decided to roll in front of the board for an encounter. We wanted a low number. The dice fell off the table, but we have a rule where those roles still count I went to pick up the dice and see what it was. It was a four

I was the only one who saw it But I picked it up and proclaimed it to be a nat 20 I just wanted to do a spicy and kind of hard session The results were two of my fellow players experienced PC death But I was too far in for me to go back on my earlier proclamation. I feel guilty like the lolliest of villains can dice Christ for give me. This is some yellow jacket shit. Oh, puppet analogue is.

Yeah, puppet analogue. I want to know how I want to know how the dice roll for you now. I bet they hold grudges. Yeah. Yeah, you give claw at the heart of dice Christ for this. This is just a bad. You're a priest being on the other side of a gift fashion box being like whoo Well fuck man. Yeah

Shit, I mean those PC deaths are on your hands. Yeah, there's blood on your hand There's a mat there's a Magonary blood on your hands I think that your new is There's a mask. There's a mask and a re-blood on your hands, puffy, and like this. I think the fact that your new is puffy and it like, it makes me think that you can handle a rousing. I am picturing like a puppet with like, ketchup on their hands, just going,

ha ha ha. Yeah. I think being very disappointed in a puffy is very funny. Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean, you know what? You did the hard work of admitting it.

Yeah. It is interesting though that their that their crit made the session harder and they kind of just wanted a spicier session. But did everyone else want that spicier session? Yeah. Because this is a group order and like you got three peppers for everybody and maybe not everyone wanted three peppers. Interesting.

Yeah, yeah, and allergy. You might just want one little pepper. Some people, yeah. It's just a little fun spice, yeah, yeah, yeah. And allergy. You might just want one little pepper. Some people, yeah. It's just a little fun spice, not like a full challenge. For starters, I think you're never allowed to pick up the dice again, right? Like that's a fun little thing that somebody who's more honest gets to you. I think you need to show off the table. I think you need to show off the table.

For sure. You can't be trusted. Puff it in. You know, I guess you can't be trusted. Yeah. That's actually a pretty cool business card for you, Puppet. Even if you're going to have to do that business card, this is Puppet Angling, and then in quotations,

I can't be trusted. Yeah, it's weird that you have a business card. It's a dog. It's just an early card that just says, I'm not allowed to touch the dice anyway. That's the everyone at the table. And you are a very well respected and I love colleges.

Yeah, when the dice rolls near you, like when it lands on the ground near you, you have to without explanation, just say to everyone else, I think that's closer to you. And someone will, or maybe no matter what. Everyone at the table has fly swatters. And if you go

anywhere near it, they just go. Yeah, give you a little fly sapper. So this was the confession that has light punishment. Yeah, yeah, your penitence. Yeah, your penitence is your players get little tiny fly swatters and if you try and get your grubby little fingers that you get to fly swat your fingers. So, so for given with conditions. When they're bad? Oh, I love you. Yeah, good baby. Yeah, when they're, when they're,

I love you. And you should say I love you to Puppettinga Linguist because you want them to know that they're being punished but you still want them in this table. This is an absolute mind of fuck. What is D&D without Puppet Angel English? Yeah, that's true.

We're not forbidding you from playing. We're just giving you a weird mild light punishment. Yeah, I think you're forbidden from, you know what, you never get the excitement because this is a big, you've punished yourself, right? Because this seems like a fun table rule where you guys actually count the role You can't ask that. You can't ask that. You can't ask that. You can't ask that. You can't ask that. You can't ask that. You can't ask that. You can't ask that.

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Puppet blowjob is a lot of folks the dice. You unfortunately are not so forgiven. So orchard. So orchard. So orchard. So orchard. So orchard. I really want to play this fucked up Sesame Street table

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Yeah. So if you want to check out, see what's one's a D&D court, see which one's a play one. Maybe you go see both if they're in cities that are most of them, do a little road trip. It might be fun. It might be. It will be fun.

It will be. You know what, let's say it will be. Yeah, let's confidence. Yeah, not a pitch person. I'm with that. Let's go ahead and wrap this one up. Thank you all so much for listening. You can follow us on social media that we're

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