Not Another D&D Podcast - D&D Court: Froghemoth v. Milk

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:37 We are your Supreme Crit Justice's Murphy, Axford and Tanner joined by the lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly I mean, bail for which is a justice in Boston. Yes, that's true. I can practice in Boston. You will not speak to me this way in Massachusetts. But we are not in Boston. Thank you to everybody who came out to the Wilburons on the first ever D&D Court live. It was so fun. We want to do more. It was a blast, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We want to do more, so tell your friends how good of a time you had so we can do that. Yeah, but in the meantime, we shall do more auditoryly audio wise. So, these are what I'm looking for. Well, do your podcast, Merk. Yeah, our podcast. But why not? Shall we podcast?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah, we're going to do it in an auditorium. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm ready. Here, ye, ye, crit is now in session. The honorable Supreme crit justices Axford Murphy and Tanner presiding and if we were in Boston justice her which would be presiding
Starting point is 00:02:52 Our first case comes from Donnie Donnie writes beloved justices and Baylif Great not really I present the case of the ever-aging party. I am playing a TTRPG other than D&D, and therefore I do not have the same grasp on the rules of the system as I do with 5E. So imagine my surprise when I find out our game's passage of time means our characters are actually aging about a year every few sessions. And that my aging character is going to start experiencing penalties for being too old to adventure. Oh no! And if my character who is nearing her 50s has to use the quote,
Starting point is 00:03:30 find an error mechanic, I've been ignoring if I want any of my XP or magic items to survive the switch to a younger person. What? Find an error? Judges, should the game... Find an error mechanic? There's a mechanic. You're playing a fucking rogue like TTRPG. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Should the DM have made this facet of the game well known when I joined the group? Or should I simply acknowledge that Senility comes for all of us? I think, okay, I think if you're the DM you do and someone's like, hey, I wanna play a 50 year old, it really is on your shoulders to say, cool, we age every couple of sessions
Starting point is 00:04:05 So if you want to not deal with penalties start younger. Yeah, yeah It feels weird to be like all right go create a character don't worry that much cuz Should I so yeah Just a lot of this important thing is passing on your genetics and XP I get like time jumps and stuff important thing is passing on your genetics and XP. I get like time jumps and stuff. I don't, maybe this is just part of the game, right? And you play a bunch of different characters
Starting point is 00:04:30 and you play like, almost your characters line or something like that, which is kind of interesting, but I just feel like everybody should be in on that. Yeah, that feels like a primary function. That feels like, yeah, that feels like the line that you say, hey, we're playing this campaign by the way, you're playing a lineage not a care after one of the things that Separates this from regular 5e is that you'll be dead in a year. They didn't name the system they're using
Starting point is 00:04:53 So it's possible that this isn't the DM doing it. It's possible that this is baked into a specific system Yeah, yeah, it sounds like I this mechanic is totally believable to me. For like, for you. Find an heir. Yeah. No, I mean, there are like so many video games that do things like this. You're playing like a rogue like or a game like that where you're dying a lot. There is like sort of a mechanic built in where you will like, you know, it will be like your heir playing and they'll have like slightly different proficiencies and things like that. Okay. They'll carry on some of the things.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So maybe that seems like inspired by that or like you know, it's developed in parallel. Yeah, I do think like maybe your deems should give me like a little more of a heads up that you need to fuck. Yeah. It seems like you should, you know, I don't know what this game is, so I don't know if this is a really necessary part of it,
Starting point is 00:05:36 but I feel like things should be thrown out if they're not fun for everybody. Is everybody psyched to age? Is everyone, everybody wants a character to die? Yeah, it's something to die. Yeah, does anyone want to retire while at the table? I feel like that's one of the things you play these games to escape.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah, totally. Your mortality. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say this is like the kind of, sometimes there's realism that can feel fun. This is the kind of realism that I don't know would get me hyped to show up. Like I'm down to not ignore coin weight. But I don't want to be like, okay, your character,
Starting point is 00:06:12 the muscle around their knee is starting to deteriorate. Your speed is reduced. Yeah, I don't know about that. I kept dealing with that in real life. I don't need to do that right now. Yeah. Yeah. I get a plus one knee brace. I understand where this person is coming from too, because sometimes I like to play a character that's like older or something like that to kind of play like the sage character. Right. And so to have them just, you know, die of old age after a few sessions, this feels so, it feels like the whole campaign would be consumed by them, right?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Just everyone aging so fast. It's pretty heavy, thematic. Also, that's what I'm saying. How can this be anything but just everyone panicking about aging? Like in real life? Like in real life. It's not like, oh, your character is aging,
Starting point is 00:06:57 so like pass your things down, they're gonna die. It's like the, I feel like the penalties for being too old, that makes it so much worse because now you're just playing a character that's getting weaker and weaker every single week. It's also pretty debatable, because I feel myself thriving as you get. Well, you're thinking, that doesn't happen to everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, I don't know. If you're thinking about a fighter or something, that's the equivalent of a real-world athlete, maybe, right? And that's such a small time frame. It's true, yeah, you're gonna be able to pay. And that's such a small time frame. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, you're even in their prime for like eight years or something. That's it. Yeah, there's a lot of professional football players
Starting point is 00:07:31 that retire at like 27. Yeah, I'm trying to give myself in the mindset of like, Tuesday night, you're going over to your friend's house. It's been a long day at work. And now you're gonna spend four hours. Yeah, and now your fighter just turned 40. Yeah. And you need to think about putting down the ax, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So I googled, find an air, RPG, and something came up so it could be, because I wanna make sure that we understand if it's part of the system, what is supposed to mean to the system? I found one called Hag. You are a Hag, you live alone in the darkest parts of the forest. You spend your time making giant soups and collecting poisonous herbs. Your name scares away the
Starting point is 00:08:10 children from the local village. You are not well liked. But the time has come for you to pass on from this world into the next. You can't just die though. You need to find an heir to take over your hut and gruel. Okay, this is already way better to me though. I think this isn't that game. Yeah, this is already way better to me though. I think this isn't that game. This is a different game for me. Because this sounds, because I like the idea that you're like, oh, it's not like, oh, I need to go out and like, call well said, I need to go out and fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It's like, oh no, no, no, you need to find someone to get, I can have princesses. That's the best fun. If you get like, I am gonna die, I need to find someone who can like carry on my position. Yeah, yeah. But if it's like, oh, I'm getting older and weaker and I can't remember stuff as well as I used to.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Oh, yeah, this game has it in its pitch paragraph. And this player didn't know that aging was a thing. So I would say it's probably not the same game. If it's a prize, do I think it's a, it's a bad surprise. Yeah, I'll say it's a bad surprise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it shouldn't have been a surprise. It's a bad surprise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 A game like that, like the way you just described that, that does sound like an interesting game. I'm really at the best of best. I'm probably at the best of best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best a reverse ageing mechanic. Benjamin Button style? Yeah. That could be nice. We can get into that. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. That's just your 14 now. Yeah. No, you're not as good. You're just pitching the rug rats to teach you.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It would be fun if you did that, but then you level. Like you like start out as like a whiz-end old person, and then you start leveling up as you get closer and closer to like your youthful prime. but then you start D level. I guess you get too young. It's kind of just weird to be preoccupied with your own character's death and what happens after that, rather than an adventure.
Starting point is 00:09:56 We live in the wrong way. So it's something bigger should be going on in the world and being like, all right, I'm close to death. Who is gonna take over? I'm just big sharing like some epic battle where you defeat a great dragon. And like the DM narrates this beautiful epic, final thrust of a sword and you're all panting
Starting point is 00:10:17 and then you're like, cool, are there any children around? Yeah. I can take under my wing. Yeah. Oh, actually we're waiting. I can take under my wing. Oh, actually, we're waiting. Let's take that back to the dragon fight. You're actually 44, so you've got a minus two to that roll.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah, the dragon is 12. Yeah, yeah. It's a BB dragon. You're gonna be like, chuckling to himself and be like, Oh, you forgot to freeze your eggs. So, great. Yeah, yeah. The. Great. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 The sound's not great. Yeah. I could, honestly, I could see a game working with this, and I'm sure there are many. First of all, I'm sure people will mention them in the comments how awesome they are. Yeah. Love that for you. Thank you all for this. I think all we're saying is that you are in the right, you're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Someone should have, during character creation, thrown out that this was part of it. This is not a lot of this. Yeah, I think we're on your side. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just gotta let you know which rules are in effect, whether they're binge-bitten or binge-bitten normal. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Should we send this DM to age? Yeah, that could, that could be fucking my age now. They gotta be 37. Wow. There's probably some, there's probably some 25 year old being like, oh, you gotta play old people in this stuff being strong. Yeah, all athletes, all are stronger and younger
Starting point is 00:11:36 than he thinks and I have to watch them write about that. Isn't that weird? I'm the same age as LeBron James though. So as long as he's playing, I'm still a kid. Yeah, he's still young, technically. You still have a chance? Yeah, dude.. I think yeah. You still have a chance? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I thought you meant you were still like strong. No, no, I think I could still play the NBA. Okay, so you were sentenced to grow old, so ordered, I suppose. Our next case comes from Jillian Y. To the honorable justices, Murphy, Axe for Tanner and the Disorder King Baylif. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Just worth it. I love that. I bring the case of the first time, Chris. I ran a one shot for my aunt, uncle, and cousin. I love it when extended family gets to me. I wonder if they're yonts and young girls. I bet they are. They have that energy. They're still young, at heart. It was their first time playing the game ever. And for the oldest member of our crew, it was a lot to learn.
Starting point is 00:12:22 After character creation, in which my uncle made his barber That was a little yonkle at heart. It was their first time playing the game ever. And for the oldest member of our crew, it was a lot to learn. After character creation, in which my uncle made his barbarian US Congressman Adam Schiff. We got to play. Why? Yeah. We got to play. This is not a yonkle. I am so surprised by this.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Who? Okay, keep going. Honestly, it's not even about the- Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Just in the background, that's who the uncle made. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:51 We got to playing and he crit on an investigation on a rug I had drawn on the map. I had added this rug so the map didn't look so empty. Ha ha ha. She had absolutely no better. You know, just put a rug in there. He had to be so careful when you're- There was nothing special about the rug.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Isn't that it served mostly as a chance for them to enjoy the poking around side of D&D before I got them to the main combat? Well, they were enjoying it. And then they grew on the rug. You got to put a secret door. With his crit, I let him thoroughly destroy said rug, but nothing else came of it.
Starting point is 00:13:23 If it sweats to get them all to the main encounter in a flooding deeper cavern, Opa, the sewer fight style from Unsleeping City. I ask you, should I have let Adam Schiff find something more exciting for this first time players first time ever, Crit, I humbly await your ruling. So weird that they made their character Adam Schiff. Yeah, I just got that.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, that's it. Yeah, we're just pass that. Just on the other side of that. Yeah, we're just gonna go pass. It's just kind of barrel past it. It's neither here nor there. Yeah. And yeah, so trying to get to the right, yeah, I mean, rules is written. You don't need to have something happen just because
Starting point is 00:13:58 there's a crit there, but I will say, if you made a map of the place and there's like, kind of nothing to find there, then why'd you make a map? Mm-hmm, right, right cuz you can write about other things. We don't know there could have been other things Yeah, having people look around and somebody gets in that 20 instead of having it behind the bookcase Have it under the rug. Yeah, anything else in the room Yeah, the rug was there to round out the the room to make it look fuller. Yeah, theoretically. There's other stuff Yeah, I mean if it's rounding out the room to make it look fuller. So theoretically, there's other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if it's rounding out the room,
Starting point is 00:14:25 it's probably a valuable rug. At least let them do an appraise and love it and be like, wow, this is a really well-made rug. This is a craftsman item. You know what? I really don't hate that. That's really fun.
Starting point is 00:14:35 This is worth a lot of money. Yeah, you can keep the rug. It's a very hot rug. Yeah, I really don't like that. I remember our friend Travis had a canoe at one point, and just every time we remembered he was walking around with Our party is has a canoe wherever we go That's great. Yeah, like anytime you can you have a canoe
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, so I like the idea of just making it a very expensive rug Yeah, then this guy's like great. Let's roll it up Sell this you can burn this rug to gas revive Yeah, then this guy's like, great, let's roll it up. It's just a roll of the game. I'm gonna build a cellist from Mirrors City. I'm gonna keep it. You can burn this rug to cast Revivenfied. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, you don't want to have your players going around and every time they get an ad 20,
Starting point is 00:15:17 they flip out because they think they figured out something or something like that. Like if it's just a perception check looking at something, but if you're specifically having people investigate a room, they have to find something. Yeah. Again, I'm just confused as to why there was a map. If you were panicked and you didn't want to invent
Starting point is 00:15:34 something new, you could just be like in the rug. Like in the shag of the rug, you see a mirror and reflecting off of that mirror is a cabinet that you look at that looks like you could open it. And it's like this is their first ever crit. So like it's almost like I feel like the crime is almost worse because they don't know what's been taken away from you. If you're playing with like people who had played before, they crit you would feel a lot
Starting point is 00:16:01 more pressure to be like, okay, something has to be in this rug. But it's like well, this Adam Schiff didn't actually know any better. It's like, roll the crypt, like, wow, you knock the hell out of this rug, it's like, nice. Yeah. They don't even know that that's the best thing you can fucking do with it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You know what, you're right, so actually though, in a way, like, no crime was committed, potentially Adam Schiff was just like, that was awesome, I fucking destroyed that. I guess, but it's like, why do you even have them roll an investigation check if there's nothing under the rug? It's like, I wanna check out the rug,
Starting point is 00:16:33 roll an investigation check. Why? If somebody says, if somebody says, I wanna look under the rug, and there's nothing there, there's a hundred percent nothing in this room, but I drew a map for some reason, and then you move the rug, I would just be like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 you move the rug and you find nothing. And I'm sorry for drawing the map. Right. You don't need to do it. Don't roll the dust. I'm sorry for making the rug an exciting color. But this makes me think that maybe there was something else in the room. To which I would say, if somebody was like,
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'm investigating the rug, they get an at 20. I'd be like, you don't find anything there, but as'm investigating the rug, they get in at 20, I'd be like, you don't find anything there, but as you move the rug, you look around and you notice this thing, because you're not gonna have somebody go into a room and be like, roll for the desk, roll for the bookshelf, roll for the door next to the desk, roll for the garbage bin.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I would do that, and I would have fun. I really would. I would turn the part over. So I'm gonna scale for you. I would roll on every single drawer. Oh, right, right. And then you, okay I really like it. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. I'm gonna scale it for real. every drawer would be such a different experience. And in real life, they're pretty similar. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Although it would be like, you know, in a movie when like somebody comes home and finds that they're like, apartment has been ransacked.
Starting point is 00:17:51 It would just be playing out that in real time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's gonna be fun. It's kind of like ransacking an apartment, like opening up every single drawer, pulling out everything. And then you see like the mattress and you just kind of like kick it a little bit
Starting point is 00:18:03 rather than like going underneath it. Yeah. I think the big thing here is that like when you get an at-20, that's like your birthday. That's your D&D birthday. It's like for a little bit, it's just like, hey, you're awesome. We're all going to like sit back and clap and applaud you. And for that, like that applause did not come. Yeah. It's a missed opportunity. They might have loved just being in the shit out of that rut. They might not know what they lost, but I think you did have a soft crime. Yeah. Yeah, you did nothing wrong, rules is written, but you had a chance to make some magic and you didn't.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, yeah. And you wrote us because you knew it too. Yeah. This is a dice-pressing question. This is a dice-pressing question. It's a dice-pressing question. You know what you did. Yeah, I think in the future I would either not map out an area that had nothing in it or I would just add a little something
Starting point is 00:18:49 Or I would be like there's nothing there But there is something here and you notice that because you got an at-t one This is just a general rule for D&D Yeah, you ever have a map if you ever have a board and you put something weird out there It is all anyone's got it. Yeah, or don't Don't let people roll investigation if there's literally nothing to be lined ever. I just can't get the image out of my head of this person with their little D&D battle mat and they've drawn everything out, but then they've clearly spent hours on the road.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's just a purchase soap. You decorated the map. You thought nobody was going to check that out. What if the Nath 20 was like you see through the folds of time and reality to the creator? This rug would just put this here to tie the room together. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's good too. Even that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. You can do a cheeky little joke. Yeah, anything's possible. Could be a joke. What is the punishment here? The players get to take one of your rugs. Oh, yes. You gotta get a rug. A rug for the party. Yeah, okay. Great. And it can't be from overstock or way fair. Yeah, let's go local. Yeah, let's go vintage. I think find something
Starting point is 00:19:58 on Craigslist that's still expensive. Yes, that's good. Yeah, that's like in a state-style, but like the kids are not letting things go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put something in the rug. Or real white stuff. Because it's a state sale. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. And it's like a dragon of death. Okay, but not in the heat Not in the heat of Not loose M&M Keepin' bags Yeah, they got it back You got it back, good to M&M That's fun, yeah You know what, let's do two
Starting point is 00:20:29 Let's do two Let's do in a minute Rugg in a tube Several tubes of M&M You know, let's do a poster tube That's great, M&M That's great to have inside And a poster of M&M minis
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah We always bring things back to Eminem. Yeah, Eminem's, Flintstones, Birds. I said no F words. All right, I'd have me to drop the F bomb. I'm like literally, I'm saying ultimatum. Don't talk about the Flintstone. Sorry, and it will happen again.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Danny S writes, to the always delightful justices and also the bailiff who, regardless of how we're feeling today, I still think is cool. Oh, that's nice. You can have your understanding. I don't like it. Get with the crowd. I present to you the debate of lack-toed intolerance. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:18 During a fight against a frog heemoth, my goblin artificer was unfortunately swallowed by the beast. Despite all the restraints, this effect put me under. However, I was able to whip out an alchemy jug from my bag of holding. Being able to summon any liquid, I asked my DM if filling the frog, chemist, belly with milk would immediately cause the beast to hurl me up. He said, no, but the other players and I argued that if your stomach was filled instantly with something you physically can't digest,
Starting point is 00:21:47 as Google confirmed amphibians are lacking. This is such a question. I hate the way I go outside of the monster man. Uh-huh. Frog he myth is not real. A frog he myth is not a fucking frog. It's got he myth in the name. It's not fucking real. Okay wait.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So was this for that jog of anything? It's the alchemy jog, right? Yeah alchemy jog. How much milk can it produce? Yeah that's a good question. It could be a gallon challenge situation. So the DM proposed a compromise letting me summon the max 12 gallons of salt water with the jug. Frog chemist. And while it wouldn't release me from the beast on my turn, it would give me advantage on my saving throws next round.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Ultimately, we still had a blast in our session, but we need your ruling justices. I think you got it. Okay, I think I can actually handle it really well. Yeah, yeah. This legendary, Dairy spelled DA. I don't know why a trick. I'm keeping your eyes on all the puns. I took it up in the bit to admit it's in practicality. I guess what you do, you have to Google,
Starting point is 00:22:39 instead of like Ken Frogs digest milk, you have to Google Ken Frog Hemaths digest milk. Yeah, yeah. And then Google would be like, what are you talking about? Frog Hemaths are only lactose intolerant if they're care, if they're monster stat blocks. Right, like bully bugs literally have teeth.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They have a bite. Yeah, and not saying that a frog Hemath is a bully bug, but the, I think that we sometimes get questions that are like, Yeah. Well, okay, this is a flying eagle, but in real life, eagles are this, and you're like, well, no, this is a different one. A vulture attacked me,
Starting point is 00:23:14 but a vulture wouldn't actually attack a living person. They'd only attack if they were dead, and it's just like, guys. And I think it was- A frog came at this bipedal, has tentacles, and three eyes on a stalk. It's barely a frog. And he- And he- These things are fun if they're like good natured questions at the table, like, This is the game with this bipedal has tentacles and three eyes on a stock. It's barely a frog. Definitely a tentacle.
Starting point is 00:23:26 These things are fun if they're good-natured questions at the table. No frogs can't drink milk. Ha ha, everyone's laughing, and that's good. But as soon as you stand your ground on them, there's your gills in and your like, I pour milk into the frog game with smells. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah. Will you not let me do that, Jared? It sounds like this player though, they came up with their idea, didn't work out, they came up with a different idea, everyone still had fun. Yeah, it was really fun. They did exactly the right thing,
Starting point is 00:23:51 which is they had a silly idea, the DM said, let's ground it and they were like cool. Yeah, the only wrong step you made was writing in this course. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha There's so many fun things that you can summon with the alchemy jug. You can actually summon milk. It's acid, poison, beer, honey, mayonnaise, oil, vinegar, fresh water, salt water, or wine. Okay, Merf, would you, well, no fights are so quick. I was like, would you let them summon beer and see if they couldn't. And see if they couldn't intoxicate them.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I think I would have done exactly what this DM did, which is just, you work it into the mechanics because there's no actual mechanics for it. So you're just like, well, maybe they'll be queasy. So they'll do it with disadvantage or you'll get advantage on trying to get out, which is exactly what the DM did. But when players argue for things like this
Starting point is 00:24:40 and everybody's joking around, everybody's having fun, but as soon as you win one of these arguments, it's just like, milk did it. You won. You beat the boss with milk. With milk. Is everyone happy now? Are you adventurous happy now?
Starting point is 00:24:52 And then what happens is every single time he's summoning milk. Yes, now can I jump in the purple worms mouth and feed it milk? Yeah. And now the purple worms dead. Are we all happy? Are all the air-egorings out of the challenges with milk?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah, we could have saved the world, but we used milk. Yeah. We saved the world with milk, chosen style. Yeah, yeah. Great. Yeah. The DM wants to have fun too. You owe it there, not.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's there night too. You always have to ask yourself at the end of a bit. And now what? Yeah. And with the mechanics actually, you still theoretically, you can flavor these things happening now what? Yeah. And with the mechanics actually, you still theoretically, you can flavor these things happening as what you did. Like, all right,
Starting point is 00:25:28 you're gonna get advantage on these saving throws. You succeed. The frog throws up milk or whatever. But like asking for exactly what you did to work the exact way you do it. Yeah, yeah. It's a bridge too far. Totally.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And then it makes it so, now you've done this joky move, and it worked, but it came at a risk. You had to roll, even though you had to roll with advantage. So, you would never put yourself into this position again because something bad might happen.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You might roll bad even though you got it in. Right, you're not diving into every bad guy's mouth. Exactly. It's perfect. You would start diving in mouths with milk. Yeah. We know who you are. We know you called well.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You can throw in your mouth. You can throw it in your mouth. You can throw it in your mouth. I've suggested so many ideas that my DMs have said no and I've always been like cool Yeah, that's that's absolutely fine. I brought it up knowing that you're probably gonna say no I think it's a no but you know you can't do it that way, but yeah, this will work and that's exactly what the DM did Yeah, yeah, and as soon as you start applying real world things to your game, you've lost. Because like, you're in a fantasy realm.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You might also say that like the DM, because the DM is putting a lot of effort into this, like it's fair to say that the DM can kind of weigh in on what's most exciting to them as well. Yeah, totally. You know, like, is there, they're putting a lot of work into this story? Yeah, not having their encounter destroyed by Bill. Maybe she's down your thing. Yeah, she's down your well. Yeah, totally. You know, like, because they're putting a lot of work into this story. Yeah, not having their encounter destroyed by Bill.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Maybe she's down your thing. Maybe she's down your thing. Yeah. Yeah, what a sad day for that one frog. Yeah. The first frog to try and drink milk, but it must have been so excited to be in like, oh, wow, look at this just big,
Starting point is 00:27:00 just nice tasty, frosty glass. It is kind of interesting to be like, oh, this frog ate a guy, and it can't digest milk. Yeah, because a normal frog doesn't eat people. It doesn't eat people, it's just, yeah, you're a fully ate of person. There's a person eating alchemists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Like, you're also full of potions all over you. You have the ingredients to make whatever you want. Your argument would just be like, with the swallow, yeah. Frog grow up because he ate my boot. Can I never be eaten by anything? Yeah. Isn't salt water really bad to have a ton of too?
Starting point is 00:27:31 Although for a frog hee-man, I don't know if they are, if they hang out in the ocean. I mean, it also goes both ways, right? So if you're going to go into this logic, then you have to be like, okay, salt, you didn't have any of the milk with the other people, did you?
Starting point is 00:27:46 What? Yeah, so I start throwing up and die. You're on a kid line. You're on a kid line. You're on a kid line. Yeah, I can't lie, Brian, I have the milk. You did. You can't lie to Brian.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I have no one to lie to you. And I think, you know, kill a win, win, win. I think we've done this. I think we've done this. We've ruled on the other side before, because I think I remember one time, there was somebody who knew a lot about squids
Starting point is 00:28:09 or something, so used it for like a crackin' and I think we gave kind of a similar ruling where we were like, you should have rewarded this in like a little way, like you give him inspiration. Yeah, I have advantage. I think the person was like, exactly with this DMV. But they were like a marine biology of like specializing in squids. I think that person was like this DM, but they were like a marine biology
Starting point is 00:28:25 of like specializing in squids. I think there's a difference between a marine biologist specializing in squids and wanting to, you know, bring a little bit of that to the world building. And someone, I mean, let's be honest, that lactose intolerant is hoping that they're gonna get shit out. Yeah, yeah, they just Googled Ken Frogs do mill.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah. They didn't go to, they don't have a doctor. It's just going to a pet store. Yeah, we're officially ruling that Frogs can't do mill. Right, if he myths Ken do mill. Well, Frogs can do mill. Well, Frogs can do mill. Nothing more than ending the day with a milkshake.
Starting point is 00:28:59 That's right, that's how lactose tolerant they are. Right, so now we have to punish this player, I suppose. We can put them on the beat for working the blender for that frog hema. Oh, yeah, you got to be a soda jerk for the frog hema. Yeah, you got to open the small container. You got to soda jerk for the frog hema. Yeah, unfortunately, do you have to feed a frog hema with a military? Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Love it. Our next case comes from Kuwand. Kuwand writes, To the well-mannered judges and the bailiff whose conduct resembles that of a toddler at the adult table during a family get together. Wow. Now we're talking. Take issue with that.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah. I present a simple question. My player argues as a lightfoot half-length, he may hide or conceal himself behind a larger player. He argued successfully that hiding is concealment. Therefore, by raw total cover, and he should have total cover behind his colleagues, help I can't hit this half-length. Furthermore, boring evidence below, rules has written state that partial cover may be a creature, setting precedent for creatures being covered, total cover is described as a target has total cover if it is completely concealed by an obstacle.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Okay, what does total cover mean? It's like plus five, AC? No, no, no, total cover is you're just, you can't be hit. Can't be targeted. Can't, wow. But where is, but hide is the wrong mechanics are being used. You just need to look for them. The DM needs to use perception and find the halfling.
Starting point is 00:30:28 That's it. What was that they can't be targeted? I'm gonna look up light foot halfling. Does it suit me? Okay, right, as a light foot halfling, you can easily hide from notice, even using other people ask cover. As cover, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Oh, other people ask cover. You're inclined to meet, yeah. So I think they can. I think how you- You have to hide when you are obscured only by a creature that is at least one size larger than you. I think this is one of those things that's kept kind of vague. I don't see how, I think for total cover,
Starting point is 00:30:56 you argue that there's no way that someone can possibly hit you. If we build a metal dome of armor around somebody and cobalt are trying to like hit it with their like slingshots or something, that total cover, they're never gonna hit it. Right. I think they do have total cover because listen to the description of total cover.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It says you can use a person as cover as long as they're larger than you. In the lightfoot halfling, description of total cover, a target with total cover can't be targeted directly by an attack or a spell, although some spells can reach such a target by including it in an area of effect. A target has total cover if it is completely concealed by an obstacle. And in for a lightfoot halfling, they can use another person as an obstacle.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Right. So, but they need to roll like a stealth check or something for this first, right? Yes, I think so. And that determines how good their cover is, is that all right? That determines how good. This is just one of those things that I think the rules are maybe a little too vague to deal with. Uh-huh. Well, this was like, I knew that Beverly had this ability and I just never used it because it's,
Starting point is 00:31:56 it's like partially like Beverly's supposed to be up in the mixed fear. Yeah, it made a lot of it and yeah, it wouldn't be fun. And also, yeah, it's just, it is kind of vague and like hard to figure out exactly like how it's supposed to work in battle. I personally would rule it that cover means that it's some kind of cover with a half or three quarters. Total cover.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Total covers what there's no cover. Total cover seems kind of crazy. I don't know you. I would give it to him. Really? Yeah. I would give it to him and I would be like, great, we're gonna get crazy with area of effect spells.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Yeah. You are gonna watch the person in front of you die so that you can be reached. And you're gonna start to wonder if this is who you wanna be. Yeah, I do get it. I do get it. I do get it. I do get it. You basically agreed with the player on the rules but not on the morals.
Starting point is 00:32:41 If you can't damage their armor class, the damage their heart class. Yeah. Yeah. I am kind of wondering why they need to hit the Halfling so bad. Just Halfling just hurt all their pride. Just beats shit out of their friend. And have like the bad guys that are facing a tease the Halfling for being a coward. Did they mention what class this Halfling was? This is like a road. They're like popping out attacking the pub. Yeah, because if it's a road, yeah, I mean, it could be. They don't say, just like halfling. It's their whole bill just hiding behind big guys. It could be.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And you know what, that just presents an interest thing. Uh-huh. In my opinion, that just presents an interesting challenge. Challenge, yeah. In the way that like an Eric Akra was going to fly, why do you deal with that? There's like this guy who can just hide behind other guys. I think that you just have to kind of start thinking like, okay, let me just accept that if, look, you can also,
Starting point is 00:33:32 it's ultimately your game. You can, I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm not saying that this is what the rules dictate. I'm saying if I'm a DM, someone says this, I look at it, I'm like, all right, that's fair. But I am looking into area of effect spells. I am looking into flanking them. Oh yeah. You know, I'm looking to, I'm looking at multiple bad guys, right? Like yeah. Yeah, I'm looking to put terrain that makes it
Starting point is 00:33:54 difficult to hide behind someone. Yeah, I'm actually going to, I think I'm going to rule a little bit different. I think I'm on the DM side. I think that I would interpret this as not total cover. I think cover means is what you decided is. Quarter cover, half cover, three quarters cover, whatever. I would have them maybe make a stealth check and have that be how good of cover they have if they get like 29 or something. I think the life foot.
Starting point is 00:34:19 You could say they took themselves like. I think the life foot does have a thing that they have to make a high check to do it. So I think what I would probably do is like if you, if you're a stealth check beats the monster's passive perception, I'd be like, cool, you have total cover. Yeah, but like that can be interrupted pretty easily.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's like, yeah, if they do a perception check on their turn, maybe they can discover this half. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I'm like, if you on your turn, hide behind a bigger character, and you roll a dirty 20, and then my NPC gets a 22, can I just say he stands to the side?
Starting point is 00:34:55 He sees that your ID behind his legs, and I hit you with a flail. Yeah, you know what I mean? So that seems like that? That seems buttoned up to me. Yeah. Although I guess you could argue that it's like,
Starting point is 00:35:05 you know, you're a small halfling. This is very much following like the classic like J.R.R.R. Tolkien rule set, where it's like you're a small halfling, like in the heat of battle, like in that fray, you're kind of like using everyone's confusion and like the fact that there's so much going on to just kind of like hide and plain sight a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So how many times did Frodo hide in Gandalf's robe when he was being a tie by Orcs? Yeah, I think I would personally just come up with a mechanic for yourself and maybe give them half cover or something like that. Maybe. I'd come up with something that it's like that high check does matter.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah. And they have to roll well and I would probably come up with something that was, because if they're pushing back, it is going to keep being a conversation unless you get something like locked in stone. Yeah, you're setting the DC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I think it's interesting to beat them using mechanics and using the game, like Justice Axe for saying. And I really like what you were saying about just that little narrative nugget of killing all those friends. Killin' all those friends. Yeah, I would weirdly say that I think you're right of the way. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Killin' all the friends. Kill' all the friends. is you can't go backwards now. Yeah, so I think take satisfaction in the fact that I agree with you, but I think you just gotta kill their friends. Yeah, kill their friends. Kill their friends. So we are, I guess, technically rolling against you,
Starting point is 00:36:33 but also me and you. There's something fun to agree with you. Because I've played with people who play kind of like edge-lordy rugs, and they'll sometimes be like, I don't wanna come out of height, like they never wanna get hit. And sometimes it can be interesting to be like,
Starting point is 00:36:50 cool, this person is down over here. They're far enough away that you can't run back and get cover. I don't think I'd let them use like a dead body for cover. Yeah. So what's the punishment here? I think, yeah, yeah. Well, I think my ruling is not that you're wrong. body for cover. Yeah. So what's the punishment here? I think, yeah. Well, I think my ruling is not that you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:09 My ruling is just that I would probably roll with the SADM, but I feel like I have to abstain because I feel like there could be a really firm ruling in this that I'm wrong about. I think we're on your side, but I think you might come off as a buzzkill if you take away your friend's thing at this point this point at this point because they've already been doing it So this will be less of a punishment more just tough love, which is that you got to you got to kill all their friends
Starting point is 00:37:33 Oh, yeah, yeah, I gotta go real hard. Yeah, it's actually a punishment for your player But we're directing it at you. Yeah, yeah, you have to leap valiantly over the hurdle of their self-preservation. Yeah, that's all of your bad guys are Eric Okras now. Oh yeah, right because if they're flying in this guy then that then I think it's totally fair to be like yeah that's not cover. This is in total cover is once the thing once you get into this total cover stuff they're totally covered. They're covered up, they're covered down, they're covered in the shade, they're covered
Starting point is 00:38:04 to the other side. I would, I would definitely again, I don't care what is logical to me is someone flying overhead, seeing both of you standing next to each other, like standing next to someone doesn't give you cover to someone who's flying overhead. Right. So I would argue that's not total cover. All right. Go for it. I'll go for it. Go for it. Kill the friends. But you already gave them the thing. All right. Go for it, kill their friends. Go for it, kill their friends. But you already gave them the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Just get rid of their friends. So ordered. Adam C. writes, to the dignified judges and the bail of whom can be described by the fickle adjectives of the judges choosing. Oh, this is fun. Should we all go down the line and choose an adjective? Okay, my adjective is going to be quirky. Oh, quirky bail if I like that.
Starting point is 00:38:48 First, the reason I couldn't get like a great British bake off style, I just kept hearing tempting in my head. I don't like tempting. I feel like the woman who like was in it in the very beginning would always talk about how tempting things are. Tempting bail of this money for me. I'll say, I'll say luscious. Luscious, a little quirky.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I fucking love you guys. Thank you. I'm picturing you like a really, really well-icined cake. Yes. Perfectly risen. Ah, the pudding balif. I present the case of the time out barred. I had been sitting on a build that I wanted to try
Starting point is 00:39:26 for a campaign that started at level seven. At level 10, I created a bard that had find greater speed and haste as their magical secret spells. My Pegasus has a base flying speed of 90 with haste is double to 180 and with dash actions can move about 540 feet per round. Okay. I gave my Goliath Bard expertise in athletics
Starting point is 00:39:47 and wanted to spend my actions grappling opponents then flying them 250 feet away and putting them in timeout. Right? Yeah. The rest of my party loved the idea. Yeah. I found it really fun.
Starting point is 00:40:00 But my DM ruled that I can't do it because it breaks the game and found a specific Quora post Okay, you can't grapple anyone while mounted am I allowed Am I allowed to put the bad guys in time out or is my DM right to rule against this? I throw myself at the mercy of the court. Does anyone have a Quora account? I think you have to have like an account use Quora I have my first thought is that like this this sounds like a really, really fun for one battle. But the second battle, I wonder if it loses its lustre.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Right, the DM should almost just let you do it once, because you're not actually defeating an enemy, you're putting them in time out. Yeah. It's basically just a fun, one-time move. Yeah, I think it's like, I feel like you don't build a character around it, you just like, maybe do it one time.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Uh-oh. Yeah. I would say this is a literal like one trick pony It's like, I feel like you don't build a character around it. You just like, maybe do it one time. Yeah. I would say this is a literal like one trick pony that you built this. Yeah. I think you wouldn't want to do this over and over. That's so interesting though. If you can't grapple well, mount it. Okay, here, let's look at this.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Moving a grappled creature. When you move, you can drag or carry the grappled creature with you, but your speed is halved unless the creature is two or more sizes smaller than you. Okay. But that says, okay, but your speed is halved. Your speed is halved, so maybe since your speed is, it doesn't say halved.
Starting point is 00:41:14 It references your speed. It says nothing about the mount, the mount. But it does, I mean, I think you can't use regular grappling rules, because it is like, it would be hard to pull somebody up on a rules because it is like it would be hard to pull somebody up on the whole horse. Yeah way harder than it would be to wrestle with them. I mean see it happen in fiction where someone will be like riding along and like grab somebody and think that someone who wants to be
Starting point is 00:41:37 saved or something. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. That's somebody who will be willing participant. Right. Right. I mean you can cartoon definitely a bad guy would scoop somebody up on their horse, kind of hold them up so high. Hey, to rule against a scoop. It's like you should be able to, if someone was on your, like, thinking about mounted as like riding, right?
Starting point is 00:41:55 And if someone jumped on and tried to start steering your horse, it feels like you could grapple them to be like, no, I'm in trouble. Right, but they'd have to already be on the horse with you. I think, yeah, I do kind of think they need to be on the horse. So the grappling rules as written, it's, no, I'm in jail. But they'd have to already be on the horse with you. I do kind of think they need to be on the horse with you. So the grappling rules as written, it's half speed. So the idea is that if Jake starts beating me up, he can grapple me and he can pull me as half as fast
Starting point is 00:42:17 as he can move. So think about how much easier it would be to drag me than it would be to pull me up onto a horse. I feel like this is why your friends at the table love the idea. Yeah. All you really need is one other ally in this to help with the tossing. Oh, yeah. Like, a booz to the scoop.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I would encourage the DM to just make this hard for you to do. Oh, but tossable. I'm trusting suggestion here. Someone says, I'm like looking in. I'm not finding a hard ruling on this, but I am seeing someone that says that mounting and dismounting use half the writer's movement. And the writer's movement is halved when moving a grappled creature. Okay. Yeah. So you would have to dismount to then grapple the creature.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Then your speed would be halved. I don't know, I don't know how to do that. I think you can, yeah, there's no mechanics for this, but at least that we can find in the 30 seconds that we've been looking for. Yeah. Well, I think your DM only found like a, like a coropost, which I don't think is that- That's definitely can mount someone,
Starting point is 00:43:19 someone said, it begs the question, can you maintain a grapple and mount your mount? I think you definitely can, because think of a situation where, well, think of this, a situation where someone's down and you gotta hoist them up and then hoist yourself up. That's a yeah. A grapple is different than carrying a friend.
Starting point is 00:43:34 A grapple is a wrestle. Yeah, no, I'm just saying. Yeah. Although this is a Goliath character, so they're probably pretty good at grappling. Yeah, but that's all factored into their strength and everything, and that's factored into it. I think you had the right of it, Murf, which is like as the DM you allow this like once maybe twice and then yeah
Starting point is 00:43:50 You're like either like ratchet up the DC or just like just don't allow for it to happen I think it's like there's not even really mechanics for you know You can grapple somebody but to you know pin them or something like that like have an actual wrestling match or something There's nothing in the book, but characters should be able to like, straight up win a wrestling match, you know what I mean? It shouldn't just be, their speed is zero. It's like, yeah, but then what?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Let's come up with something. And I think that the answer here is probably a homebrew thing. I would agree with your DM that this is kind of reminding me of the milk question. I think what ends up happening with this is you do this once, everyone has a good time, laugh at it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You do it two times diminishing returns. You do it the third time, all anyone's gonna do from this day forward is target your mountain. So that is a waste of a spell now. Suddenly you're casting fine, greater steed to just your steed goes out in the beginning of every single fight.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, but if you have mounted combat and you can have it attack you instead of the mount. It feels like you just want to get the side of your system. Did they say they have mounted combat? I don't know, I think so. They were all min-maxed up, so I would assume that they did or could. Yeah, they don't mention, but yeah, they have fine-greater steed. Can fine-greater steed be dispelled though? It says spell. Maybe, I don't mention but yeah, they find greater speed can find greater speed be just spelled though It says spell maybe I don't know. I feel like grappling is a risk
Starting point is 00:45:08 It's a gamble like anytime you do it So if you're just spinning like every turn like going up and being like I like try to get under this guy Like I try to like grapple them onto my horse like and that's just what you're doing every time Yeah, just to try to get like one big payoff move This is what you are all about like they're Like they made this from level seven to do this. They have a good, a good life part with a two-toned and a mid-a-sale. They have lettics.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, but it's made up. Yeah, but this isn't real. You're not allowed to. There's no mechanics in place to do this. But they're scooped someone. There are no mechanics in place. Against their will. I feel like the more fun thing is finding
Starting point is 00:45:42 when the mechanics are Worked together interestingly Finding when there's a loophole that you always have to ask if a boss if your DM had a boss do this to you Would you be mad if I was like this fire giant has proficiency in athletics? So he Runs over a saw give me contested athletics. Okay. that's a two. You fail that, he rides his nightmare steed, 400 feet into the air and drops him. It's definitely fun to come up with a novelty build for a one-shot, but I think ultimately it isn't gonna be,
Starting point is 00:46:15 it's not gonna feel as fun to play the same thing over and over again. But that could be my personal place. Work with your DM and come up with mechanics for this because there are no mechanics in this. Right, you guys can work together to come up with something that works for both of you. I also think that getting away with it once could be fun gets it out of your system. Yeah, and it's not that fun to do it over and
Starting point is 00:46:34 over. Yeah, yeah. There are other cool things you can do with this build besides this too. But I don't really know who's wrong in this one in terms of the rules because there aren't rules. Yeah, yeah. For this. Well, I would say that, I mean, the DM's like, I, I'm not gonna allow this. I think, yeah, if there's no rules, we kind of got to go with the DM. That's fair. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. My final thought is that if this is like a tag team thing, like if somebody gets a guy prone or like stunned or something, and then it's like a team operation, I like that. Yeah, I think if it's a homebrew thing,
Starting point is 00:47:08 I think you need to figure out something harder than just winning the one athletics check. Because that's what you do. You make that person speed zero, and you can move them at half your speed. There's no mechanics in place for hoisting them up onto a horse, which is substantial enough that the rules say it takes half your speed.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So it takes a decent amount of your turn to do that. Right, so it's gonna take teamwork beyond just you putting them on there. If I'm your DM, I'm feeling the room fall out of love with this idea. Like I'm seeing the eyes glaze over when you do it the third time. I'm stuck into spell magic.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I'm putting you in tight quarters that a Pegasus can't fit or fly. You're doing a cavern crawl. Yeah, I feel like just as Oxford is right again here. Because you're yes, and the player, like yes, you can do that, but I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:48:02 fuck you in another way. Yeah, I'm just guessing. I'm guessing that there's diminishing returns the third time you do it. Yeah, check to see if everyone else is pulling out their phones. Yeah, so that said, we are actually ruling with the DM here. Yeah, I definitely am. Because in the absence of the mechanics, if the DM says no, then it is kind of a no. And also the DM, I think that their ruling is in the interest of it being the most fun at the table. So.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So we have ideas for how someone else might DM this, but it is this DM's call. Yeah, I think if you were going to min Max to everything has to be buttoned up. You know what I mean? You can't be like a little gray area. Don't build your build around a gray area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 You know what I mean? If you're really going to be like, I do this one specific broken thing that can grab the level 20 wizard and take them out of the fight. Make sure you've got everything down to the left. And I would say also, if that is your intention from starting at level seven, mention it to the DM at the top.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So you don't have three level ups only to be like. Surprise, my crazy move is this. And the other guy, no, no, no, you can't do it. Like, what the hell did I waste all my time for? But everybody said it was a good idea on the text thread without you. Yeah, I think I would add as the DM maybe do like some kind of like hoisting mechanic or some like, we have to beat them on a couple athletics tricks or something like that. I don't think it would be as easy as to expect somebody.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Or you have to beat them by a certain amount checks or something like that. I don't think it would be as easy as it's for somebody. Or you have to beat them by a certain amount. Yeah. That could be fun. Yeah, although I guess you could argue, okay, wait, let's go back over this. If it's a... You've got to give it a generous review.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Wait, I am gonna give it a generous review. Whoa! Hang on, hang on, okay. No, Emily was saying before that it takes half your movement to get out of your mouth. I read somewhere, I read somewhere, it could be wrong. Okay, that makes sense. So if it takes, okay, so if your speed is 30, right?
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah. So your speed is 30, you grapple the person. And they're right next to your mount, okay? Yeah, yeah. So you need 15? So you drag them 10 feet to get them five feet. No, you have to dismount to grapple them. Let's say you're already off the horse.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Okay, right, because you start off the horse. Yeah, you start off the horse. You're not on the horse. You're not on Let's say you're already off the horse. Okay. Right, because you started off the horse. Yeah, you start off the horse. You're not on the horse. You're not on the horse. You're next to your horse. You grab the guy who's next to your horse. You drag him. You spent 10 feet of movement to move him five feet.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Right. Into the horse's space. Yes. Yeah. You use half of your movement, which is 15 feet, which you still couldn't pull the guy with you, right? Did I have I lost myself in the math? I didn't think I lost myself in the meantime.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Well, your speed would be half to take, you wouldn't, you would take half of your, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so it would take half, so if it takes 15 feet of movement, I don't know, I give up, I quit, I quit math, I quit. I need paper, I quit. Somebody in the comments figured this out. Right. Does the mouth check out? We're gonna circle back on this one. Can I offer a punishment? I think for the full for the full table. For the whole table. Yeah, every
Starting point is 00:50:59 one. Because you know what? The other players were egging this person on. Yeah. Mm-hmm. The DM maybe being a little staunch. I think there's a fun way to resolve all of this. Everyone rents a horse and they all wrestle on horseback. Don't hurt the horse, don't hurt the horse, don't hurt the horse. Make sure it's a really strong horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These are gonna be wrestling horses.
Starting point is 00:51:14 You know, there's like polo horses, there's like racing horses, there's all different types of horses. These are wrestling horses. Wrestling horses. Yeah. Okay. Or you're gonna have a horse wrestle.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And put her finger up like she got something. It's just mounting in this mounting. It might be it might not be where it's right at your mouth. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear the mouth anyway. Well it says once during your movie you can mount a creature that is within five feet of you. Okay. So you need to be within five feet of the creature. You can't dismount go grab someone then like you could you would have to dismount right you'd have to grab the person. You'd have to start off the horse. Doing so costs an amount of movement equal to half your speed. For example, if your speed is 30, you must spend 15 feet of movement to mount a horse.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Therefore, you can't mount it if you don't have 15 feet of movement left or your speed is zero. So if you dismount it, it would cost, if your speed was 30, dismount it, it cost you 15 feet of movement. Uh-huh. You then are grappling this person and your speed was 30, dismount it, it cost you 15 feet of movement. You then are grappling this person and your speed is halved, which means you then don't have enough to mount them. So if you start off the horse.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Maybe, but this person isn't gonna start off the horse. Their ideas every single turn, they're doing this. Yeah, everything. That's what they're building this horse. Yeah, I was under the impression that they're not dismounting, that they're trying to like grapple while the horse. Yeah, I think they're trying to do it while they're on the horse. I was imagining just the horses loose.
Starting point is 00:52:32 They grab a guy, told him on the horse. Oh, okay. If someone put me on a horse, I would simply get down. I would use my reaction to the horse. Yeah, it's just, I would wriggle. Yeah, I would simply wriggle. I imagine them getting reaction to a whole lot. Yeah, it's just, I would wriggle. Yeah, it's simply wriggle. I imagine them getting tied to the horse.
Starting point is 00:52:49 No, I was with Caldwell. I thought this was a lean-over-and-scoop. Yeah, I thought this was a scoop against an enemy. But I think you could argue you can't grapple someone as a scoop. I think, I agree. Yeah, I think a scoop is for a friend. Right, a scoop is for a friend. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. It's beautiful. Scoop is for a friend. Right. A scoop is for a friend. A scoop is for a friend. It's beautiful. A scoop is for a friend. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Scoop is for a friend. Yeah, that's good for friends and that's a for folks. Okay, so we are ordering this whole crew to buy nets Yeah, yeah, you have to go to actually have to buy the Brooklyn that's right. Oh my god Without Katie without Kari With the entire Brooklyn that I think you could definitely grapple creature onto your
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yes, yeah, that many actions. They would all roll into initiative. Yeah, they all hold their turn for you They act as a swarm Especially if you wait till next year after they have their first round pick. Yeah, it's like a horn of vahala situation The net of Brooklyn I would play in that campaign This episode of nad pod is brought to you by bird dogs They're a company that makes pants and shorts, so no matter where you fall and the age old battle between the two, you can rest assured that Bird Dogs has you covered. Now we all know when the legwear war begins and we're forced to choose a side, it's
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Starting point is 00:55:28 Is this new hot NPCs? This is new hot NPCs. Oh, okay. You know what you're gonna bring up. They're still hot. We need new hot ones for 2023. Let's come in horny for this one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yes. There was some horny energy in the case admissions to be fun. Okay. I'm the DM for a group of friends and my partner playing a Strixhaven campaign. Three of the players are experienced and two are new, but I know them all very well. I wanted my players to feel super engaged in the world right away, so using what I know about them, all I created NPCs that I knew would be irresistible to each of them, either
Starting point is 00:56:01 based on physical attractiveness or personality traits. The problem is that this worked too well. The players spend most role-playing time interacting with these NPCs, and then they go on quest with their adventuring party almost out of expectation or something. The player, characters don't have emotional ties to each other, and in some cases just plainly distrust each other. I'm glad I know my friends well enough to create NPCs that they fall for, but did my hubris mean
Starting point is 00:56:27 I didn't offer them the opportunity to mesh as a group. I humbly throw myself at the mercy of the court. This is so easy to fix. They're all getting dumped. Nothing brings a crew bed together better than they're all freshly dumped. Or the hot NPCs get kidnapped. Or the hot NPCs.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah, yeah. Rescubation. You also need to start putting up red flags with these hot NPCs get kidnapped. Or the hot NPCs. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Rescue mission. You also need to start putting up red flags with these hot NPCs. Right. They need to start revealing just little personality quirks that actually are starting to be like,
Starting point is 00:56:55 we actually do I really like you. Yeah. Right, or like an X that they're still really close to. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I'm gonna get dinner with my ex. You guys still talk? Yeah. exactly. I'm gonna get dinner with my ex. You guys still talk? Yeah, my stuff's still out there apartment.
Starting point is 00:57:09 We get all those cursed weapons road shows every year. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, they should distrust these NPCs a little bit rather than each other. So throw it, throw it on some like some roadblocks. It does sound like the DMs just a better role player than the others. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I think it was kind of a fun problem. I think they're having fun. I think they're having fun. I was like, role playing, oh, hooking up with your wife. Yeah. I think a little while everybody else is just going like, I'm just like picturing you like coming off a day of work of like, of like DMing and just being like, fuck, it's just like so draining.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Everyone wants a piece of me. Yeah. I'm actually fucking DMing. You're just flirting with, like, it's just like so draining. Everyone wants a piece of me. Yeah. Imagine fucking DM-ing, you're just flirting with, like you're holding court. You want to fuck me, you want to fuck me. You want to fuck me. As soon as I'm not in the scene, everything falls apart.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Fuck. Just using a switchblade code. I got a hack before you start DM-ing. Bonsie style. Yeah. Hey. I tried to make some duds. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:58:06 There's something for everyone. I like that you care about their player, like their chemistry though, because I do agree that's the better story. I had to do a double take on this one because I've actually been playing in a strict save and campaign with some friends. You want to fuck the DM?
Starting point is 00:58:21 We all do, I mean, the DM has done an amazing job in the same way of creating a lot of like NPCs who are extremely furchable. And yeah, but I feel like we have like a better balance where like we're all interested in making sure that everyone is looking up. Right. Yeah, there's kind of a like solidarity to make sure that everyone is having a good time. It's tricks even like a horny setting. It's called it. Yeah, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Horde, you said it. It's called Horde College. It's called ice. Yeah, I see, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I think if you're doing all of the, you set up top that you had done, you're kind of research and everything to come up with, or not researches, you know these people well enough that you were able to make these NPCs
Starting point is 00:58:58 that really hit with all of them. I think you need to find what is the adventure that does that? Oh, yeah, because you're right, like a love interest is the easiest in for a lot of people like in terms of storytelling. So you've got it, you figure that out. What's the second like easiest in? Yeah, I think if you're going,
Starting point is 00:59:18 if you're even if you're playing off a module or something, I would fold in something bad happening with like NNPC or three. I mean, having somebody go missing or having somebody be distrustful or having somebody be a turn coat or something like that. Yeah. Maybe changing things up a little bit and folding that into the adventure. Isn't there like a whole world of dating sims too? So like maybe this party just is really into like the into the romance. Yeah. Maybe they don't even want adventure. maybe they just want to talk to crushes. If you're having fun and if everybody's having fun,
Starting point is 00:59:49 this bunch is be a dating scene. Yeah, and that's fine. That's funny. It's strict savings, so you're playing one that's really relationship heavy. Is that built into the mechanically into it? I haven't read the book. Or is it just that everyone thinks college
Starting point is 01:00:01 and thinks dating life? I think it's a little bit that. There are literally like relationship meters going on in our game. So I don't know if that factors in here, because I haven't read like the source material, but I think it just lends itself. It definitely lends itself to that.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Interesting. Yeah, I would say if you're having fun, just go with this, it might just be that kind of game. If you're not having fun and you want them to go on more adventures, I would just say, take what they love and turn it against. Yeah, we have a council of elders who's like to use what you love against.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Oh yeah, so I would say yeah. It's always easy enough as well, just like two birds for one stone, just have two of those NPCs hook up. Yep, you can do that. You can do that. You could do that. I take the temperature for the drama before you
Starting point is 01:00:41 just can't really go that far, breaking their heart. And so let's go ahead and punish the person I suppose because yeah. I don't think anyone can punish the characters didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, you know, we have to punish ourselves for yeah, wow, for not being able to punish anyone. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're failed because this is our job.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You failed. You should be disbarred. You should. Yeah. I love the death. Why don't we just bar Jake and Boston? What? We don't swear at him. We don't we just bar Jake and Boston? What? We know it's sworn in. So I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's been to Spard. We could just give them a net of Brooklyn as well. That'd be fun for their camera. Oh yeah, everything's gonna get off. I would like to just bar Jake and that's okay. I'm just barred in Boston.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I can no longer practice there. You can have the Denver Nuggets. Okay. Yeah. The Nugget of Denver Nuggets. The Nugget of Denver. You're not gonna crush it in your head and the entire team comes spilling out of it's ass.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Oh, but that's gonna be a problem because then they're gonna hook up with the Nuggets. Yeah. True. So ordered as opposed. Ooh, maybe you also even could just introduce someone who is like, if you know their perfect romantic type You might be able to create their perfect foil
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like the person that they would be the most jealous of then make that person be like almost like flirting with One or all of their NPCs in one way or another and also secretly behind some big that Unite them. Yeah, they're common cause. Yeah. Yeah. You night them. You do their common cause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you don't even have to have them hook up with it. They're just flirting, but they're like. It's like, right, one person is fucking with all of their, yeah, we need some drama.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need some drama. Okay, so ordered. Connor R writes, hey judges and the other guy, thank you. But I actually used to be able to practice in Boston. They had a dress and he owns the Denver Denver Melch and I own the nuggets. I've got a case of DM versus shouting party. As I started combat during my regularly scheduled game and was going through the arduous task
Starting point is 01:02:38 of collecting, one of my players got very excited about their role. Collecting and sorting initiative is a pain, so once I had all the initiative numbers, I tuned out the voices of my players while I did the extremely difficult math of which number is higher than the other. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. We do, yeah, we do. I really am.
Starting point is 01:02:57 After our grapple conversation. As I created the order of combat, our party's monk got an exceptionally high score on initiative. Their excitement led them to assume that they went order of combat. Our party's monk got an exceptionally high score on initiative. Their excitement led them to assume that they went first in combat. Prentices, they did. They got like 15 higher than the second person.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Oh, okay. Okay. This point is irrelevant in my mind. Okay. They rolled their attacks while I was creating the list and got a nat 20 on one of them. I had missed them saying anything. So when I finished initiative,
Starting point is 01:03:26 I told the monk to go ahead and take their turn. They instead just told me how hard they crit for dice already rolled. I had no clue how they got there. Yeah. Okay. When they explained it to me, I told them that the dice rolled before initiative
Starting point is 01:03:40 is done don't count. And the party shouted me down saying I had to respect the 20, even though it was done out of turn and without prompting. I am making this case to stop players from abusing distracted DMs who are doing the most extreme test of kindergarten level men. Yes, I really have to, I love the righteousness
Starting point is 01:04:00 and self-deprecation next to each other. Instead of president, that dice have got to be rolled when the DM is ready, not whenever the players want. I think that's fully fair. That's absolutely fair. Because also we always say this, if that person had rolled a one, would they have been like,
Starting point is 01:04:17 I go first, yeah, I rolled it beforehand. I got a four, and I got a four. That's always the best. I could die, I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I think they would have been I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I think they would have been like, oh, not one. You wouldn't have said anything
Starting point is 01:04:28 and they would have been like, sweet. I guess that didn't count. Yeah, they would have quietly picked up the dice and waited to be asked. We got another not- Also, the DM needs to kind of describe. I mean, I'm sure they described the battlefield before. They rolled initiative, but usually at the start of combat,
Starting point is 01:04:43 you're like, okay, it's your turn. Here's kind of what you're looking at here, and you know, you don't know what people roll. So even if it's 29, somebody can get a 30. You would need the DM to respond, because when you say, not 20, you truly don't know if they're going to be like, this person has a luck point, reroll it. This person uses a reaction to do this, to give you disadvantage. Like, you kind of can't roll that damage
Starting point is 01:05:09 till you get confirmation. Yeah, but also like, they don't know if they're going first. I mean, it seems like they're like, they assume, they're like, they're right, but they don't know that yet. Yeah. It just seems weird to like, just call your shot like that. Yeah. I think it's a good precedent.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Also because you're not. You don't have your DM's attention. The DM doesn't even know who you're attacking. Right, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, that's true. Like even if you're crazy, you necessarily. What if you don't have the right weapon or something and you attack a ghost with a non-magical weapon
Starting point is 01:05:40 or something, it's different. Like your role might need to be different. I don't know. Sounds like your table is having fun together though. So I feel like you're doing a good job. Yeah. So there's come to that. And there's embrace being the heel.
Starting point is 01:05:53 If everyone's yelling at you, it means they're passionate and you're keeping the tempers flared. Yeah. And it's so mean. And you have to be more when they want. We have so many cases about just like players being on their phone and using TikToks. Yeah. That's no good. Like your players are all screaming you that's great. This is called heat. Yes, you want to get you want. And actually you want to own the Miami heat. Are you gonna get you as your reward.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Right. I'll see you in the Miami Heat Night. Right, you're in the heat. That's crazy. That's crazy. I'll see you in the playoffs, boy. Yes. Can I have a Utah Jazz? Yes. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. You guys want an ETS?
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah, the Raptors still around. They are. I think it's fun that a dinosaur wears basketball shorts. I don't know that much about basketball. But you know what, I will say I will give the, OK, so we're ruling with the DM. The players, I've been watching uh... the players are going have to take over the columbus blue jackets got you that's not a good time
Starting point is 01:06:52 and this person calling for president should we just make it precedent should we officially say that anything rolled before the dm says okay who's up first yeah before the Before the DM kicks it off, it doesn't count. You can't hold your attack before the DM has set. Yeah. And the eyes are on you. Yeah, it would also be like, you know what,
Starting point is 01:07:12 it's almost analogous to if it was not your turn. And you were like, well, you know, Jake's attacking right now. I'm up after Caldwell. I might as well just roll and see if I can't really. Yeah, that's really neat. And then you know what that leads to is just you doing like three rolls. Yeah, I am by your side.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah, I'm my fake roll. I did just crit. Holy shit. Is that count for your next act? Next act, so. All right, you got it. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Okay. What's my president is, if you roll in that 20 at home and take a picture and send it to your D.S. You can get it anytime. You just have to promise that you if you roll a nat 20 at home and take a picture and send it to your DM, you can get it anytime. You have to promise that you do not roll a dice until the next, that's the only time you can roll that dice. Why do you want that win, too?
Starting point is 01:07:54 You know what I mean? Like the whole, the fun of it is the gamble, is the anticipation of everybody coming together and showing that you're wamping the DM. You know what I mean? Yeah. You just quietly hide that and then be like, by the way, I did my homework by myself. It was probably.
Starting point is 01:08:12 So go ahead and make your text. Actually, it's 15 damage. Yeah. I wrote it last week. Yeah. All right. Cool. Again, I think it's probably a sign that your table was
Starting point is 01:08:22 having fun. Yeah. Doing math. They were all getting into it. Just enjoy the heat. Just enjoy the heat. And also, if you've got a big table or something, there are games where this could work,
Starting point is 01:08:32 where somebody, you can pre-roll your stuff if things are taking a long time. We are setting precedent right now. Yeah, this is an edict. You can pre-roll your damage, but you can't pre-roll your. I'll put this one in stone. Okay. Okay, okay. So ordered them.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And with that, shall we step into church? Yeah, I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I've already been this morning, but let's go again. Good.
Starting point is 01:08:57 This one's actually pretty dire. Okay. My heart goes out too. Oh, oh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Hello, benevolent high priest of Dyschrist and Jake. I'm actually the member of the church. I'm really sorry. I was the member of the church I'm actually the member of the clergy. Sorry, I was out of the way.
Starting point is 01:09:05 He ascends. Let's just bar Jake from the clergy. Yeah, this is absurd. Yeah, no, you're not a lot of leaving Dice Christ anymore. He is Jake and clergy witch. clergy witch. Although this is not a confession, I need the wisdom of the church of Dice Christ.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Wow. I feel as though I have been forsaken by Dice Christ. I would normally never say anything so blasphemous, but I've never heard of such a series of horrible roles. Our campaign is using Roll 20 for battle mats and Dice Rolling. And during one session that lasted about three hours, I rolled three Natt ones. I felt dejected, but was determined to come back stronger.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Next session, I came back with an optimistic attitude, but was met with even more failure. I rolled another four Nat ones. In two sessions, I rolled a total of 12 times, and seven of them were Nat ones. Yeah, that's not good. Which means that during two sessions, 58.3% of my roles were critical failures.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Not just Blow 10, but full once. My oath of vengeance, Paladin, Scourge, Asimar is now knocking on Death's Door after the series of failure. Is my faith in Dice Christ being tested? if I've been forsaken for some unknowing sin. Okay, so are they using the roll 20 roller? Yeah, for sure. That's what they said. You think it's a faulty roller? Then I think you just need to go ahead,
Starting point is 01:10:34 although, oh, they have to because probably they want to get a roll. At the end of the day, you are just being tested. Yes. And this is going to make the highs feel even higher and feel even better. And also, dice Christ has a sense of tested. Yes. And this is gonna make the highs feel even higher and feel even better. And also, dice-crest has a sense of humor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Ah! Let me tell you a little guy named DiceCrest. Let me tell you. Dice out a good time. Yeah. Yeah. You know what, dice-crest is playing a little joke on you. We all agree this is very fun.
Starting point is 01:11:02 It's so fun. It's seven times. It is. It's really fun. 58.3. You're being. It's really fun. It's really fun. It's really fun. It's really fun. It's really fun. 58.3. You're being tested. You're being tested. You're being beyond tested. You're being fucked with. You know what? Let's roll. Let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's send let's send you some rolls. Let's do some good ones. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All
Starting point is 01:11:20 good. All good. All good. Okay. So I'm gonna I'm gonna roll for you real quick. Okay. I got a three. I'm rolling some serpent dice that Murf gave me for Christmas. Wow, okay. 18. Okay. I'm rolling a green dice that glows in the middle. Nine. I'm rolling, I believe this is an original Beverly dice.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Let's see. Wow. That's a 16. Okay, so this is pretty average roll. Yeah. Okay, maybe you'll get a 10 next time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And here, you know what, I'm pretty cursed. Let me see if I keep rolling and I do really bad. That's a four. So I also cursed. I would say whenever I have like a really bad streak of rolling, really poorly, it's like you feel bad, bad, bad. And then at a certain point, it becomes very funny. Yeah. That is a good feeling too.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I hate how much I want you to roll more now. I am. It doesn't make me feel good. You know what dice crisis looking out for you? Cause someday your DM's gonna cast dominate person on you and you're just not gonna be able to hit cause you're gonna be rolling all these ones. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah, exactly. So I thought you're gonna say and you're gonna crit. You're gonna crit. No, no, no, you're something. You're gonna get a win. You're gonna be rolling all these ones. Yep. Yeah. Exactly. I thought you're gonna say, and you're gonna crit. And you're gonna crit. No, no, no, you're something. You're gonna get a one. You're gonna get a one. You're gonna fail that wisdom save for a short. But we're all laughing with you.
Starting point is 01:12:36 We're laughing with you. And dice, dice, laughs with you. I think that this sounds painful, but also by, I think the fifth one, I'm laughing a lot. You're absolutely going to lose your shit when you get a nat towards the end. And that's what that express wants. And that's what you want.
Starting point is 01:12:51 That's what you guys want, your faith to be tested. So yeah, so it can be restored. You are. When you were telling the story, I thought maybe they're just like a campaign where they're rolling a lot and you're like out of a total of 12 dives.
Starting point is 01:13:04 I was like, seven. More than half a wall. That's a lot and you're like out of a total of 12 dives. I think it's seven. More than half a wall. That's a lot. That's not a lot of rolls. It's fairly wild. Oh, yeah. It never really takes a lot of time. Yeah, especially with a Rilt 20, you might be like,
Starting point is 01:13:15 oh, maybe something glitched. You're being tested, but also give your computer a hearty boot and buff the cash. Why don't you go ahead and start a new account. Maybe do a different review. Yeah, you might have gotten black. Are you going to be shadow-bin? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Close the cash. Close the cash. Yeah, definitely bust the cash. All right, thank you all so much for listening. So ordered, so forgiven. You are being tested. Yes, some courage. You're resolved.
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