Not Another D&D Podcast - D&D Court: Toxic Tables, Confusing Crits and the Tragic Tale of John the Horse

Episode Date: July 22, 2022

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Are we gonna be tender and nice today? I mean I like the I like I like I like never know what's coming. Yeah, that lovely piece is shit That big shiny peach with a rotten pit. Yeah, the salty and the sweet on the peach. Let's get it kicked off right away, Bala. Let's want to take us to our first case. Gladly.

Here you, here you, Crit is now in session, the honorable Supreme Crit, justices, Axford, Murphy, and Tanner are presiding. Our first case comes from Master of Merck. Ooh. May it please the court and Tucker who has hopefully taken over Baylor duties by now. Oh, I am still kicking. The second we unleashed Tucker's beautiful voice

on our podcast ears like. We'd all be out of jobs. We'd all be out of jobs. You don't want that still to be seen. Who's still gonna hang out with during the long recording rights? That's right. How do you think they met?

Yeah. In a five-year campaign, I play a half-leg bard and my husband is playing a Goliath barbarian. We're going for a rocket raccoon group thing. I worked on rules with my DM. Yeah. And we came to an agreement that included rules for when I'm standing on my husband's shoulders

in battle, including a rule rules for when I'm standing on my husband's shoulders in battle, including a rule stating that when I'm ducked behind his shoulders, I get the benefits of half cover. We get into a fight with werewolves, and my husband was knocked prone. My DM attacked me and hit my AC, but not my AC in half cover.

My DM said, because the barbarian was prone, my half cover was gone. Oh, I couldn't tend to that he was prone, not me, and I'd be able to scramble around. I was overruled, and I took the hit nearly killing my level two bar. Oh, wise, an honored court was I given a deserved beating or did I get fragged.

I submit to your wise judgment. I feel like the word contend makes you seem smarter than you are. I contend, sir. word contend makes you seem smarter than you are I Contend I think I said with a DM like literally if someone's standing up and then there it doesn't matter how tall you are Prone is prone everyone's the same Their arm is prone, you know, yeah, and I think that the DM could have even made the arguments that okay If you're gonna hide behind the person who's down,

A, that does damage to you as they land on you and crush you, or B, fine, I'll just attack the downed guy who is now gonna be, oh, I guess he was knocked prone, he wasn't killed, he wasn't knocked out. Okay, yeah. Were they on the Goliath's shoulders when they were knocked prone? Yeah, they were standing on their husband's shoulders in battle. If you wanna be really lenient,

it's a DM maybe you give them a luck check to see if they land directly behind them. So it's almost like you're hiding behind a lot. But even then, when you get crushed, maybe, yeah. What do you mean, a Groot freaking crush that little talking record of? And then you, right, yeah.

Because we're not talking about baby Groot. Right, we're talk about baby full size Groot yeah, I So here this story and I hear you almost lost your second-level bar, but didn't that's So and like rocket loss a Groot for a bit and I was like really tough on him Yeah, you didn't know that he was gonna come back as a delightful and then we got the best scene in cinema history I mean it's been a while you probably should have checked out guardian to the galaxy this point Dude

I'm gonna tell us that Rachel dies in the animals What I Got about that I got just started book to I could have read all of them. How many of you read? I know Jake. Well now I'm never gonna read it. How many would I read? Yeah. Who knows? Group dies. Olaf dies. Rachel dies. The trifecta is complete. Everyone you love will die. Is anyone on the player side here? Yeah, I feel like if you're hiding, if you're taking cover and something like, behind a wall, say, and somebody attacks the wall

and the wall knocked, was knocked down. Yeah, no, like that'd be bad for you. They basically, yeah, they knocked your cover out. Yeah, that's what happened. I was trying to be a dirty little devil and advocate, but I just don't know if I can't. Yeah, I think that you've set up a fun mechanic that You're getting benefits from but your DM can then work into

Can work into like the battle to be like okay? I'm gonna take I'm gonna take this halflings cover away You must live by the Groot and die by the Groot Yeah, bring up a very good point that like you got through a tough fight That's like that's fun that's fun, that's fun, D&D. Congrats. Sometimes you don't get half-cover. Sometimes you don't get any cover.

That's right. You don't get cover from rubber. Broad is prone. Broad is prone. Broad's prone to be punished. Broad me a bone, broad's prone. Yeah, unfortunately we're on the DM side here. Does sound like you got a fun thing going.

So congrats on. Congrats. Have a bone. We're not going to take that away. We're not gonna take that away. So we had to think of a punishment for this player Um, so the group maybe yeah, where we just release a raccoon in your home. Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll release a raccoon. Well, obviously not a rabbit one But a hungry one. It'll only be feeding it oatmeal. It'll want some solid trash for sure. Dry oatmeal.

Yeah. Great. And Bradley Cooper is gonna call you on the phone and narrate the raccoon as well. Yeah, that's good. Okay, let's go. So now we're buying a Bradley Cooper cameo. We're buying a Cooper cameo.

So he's on cameo. I feel like he's doing so well. I don't believe he's on cameo. He'd be insane if he insane if he was on is there a cameo for people that are doing like better Who's the most successful person on on cameo? It's a great question I want to take a guess and then we can Joey tells yeah, you got pretty good. Yeah, all right tell the Swinton Yes, miss friend you do not need to be here. I love my fans.

I love the fans. All right, cool. So your other punishment is that you have to buy a birthday message from Tilda Swinton. Yes, she is not. She is notoriously expensive. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because she's the most famous person. Yeah, you have to talk to her publicist.

Yeah. Because let's face it, she probably not okay with me. And if she is, we're going the most famous person. Yeah, you have to talk to her her publics Let's face it she probably not on Kami and if she is we're gonna buy a Tilda's went to get on cameo and then buy us buy us Okay, do you think that we could get told us run to guest on the podcast by just buying a bunch of cameo? Yeah, just keep it Refilling every minute. They're a guest spot from cameo. Yeah, just keep it. Refilling every minute. Come on, we'll be together and guess about real cameo. Wow. I don't know.

The cave seems dangerous. That's really interesting. What? Okay, and your punishment is that you're in charge of figuring out. You have to coordinate that. Yeah, and pay for it. Yeah, it's gonna be pricey.

The episodes are pretty long. Right. Your punishment is that you become our manager. Yeah. All right, so ordered. Devon N writes in with our next case, to the brilliant, bold, and kind, crit justices, Axford Tanner and Murphy. Wow. And if the other guy is listening, that's okay.

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travel and therefore random encounters that often resulted in my war horse being attacked and killed in the first round of combat. I once summoned him after combat and after summoning our DM mentioned that a giant boar would have a higher AC and health and be likely to die less often. Because I assumed the boar would contain the same consciousness in a stronger body, I unsummoned John and attempted to resummon him as a boar, but the boar wasn't able to speak and had no relation to John. When I was told, not even John's friend,

when I was told he wouldn't have the same mind, I immediately tried to get rid of the boar, eating a third speltful, and bring back John. Just figuring this person absolutely spy really on the table. Oh, I understand. Yeah. That's true.

And we could really use a smite over here friend. So I try to get rid of the bore and bring back John, but some other random horse showed up. The DM told me I'd insulted John and he would no longer let me have him as a steed. I never got to have John again and until Percy's untimely death, he tried daily to bring John back and bailed. Oh no! The campaign has since disbanded to the other issues,

but this has sat with me for a while. Should I have lost my loyal steed? I leave my fate in the hands of the court. Okay, you've been wronged. Yeah, I think you've been wronged. There's a sympathetic take on it that maybe the DM was like, I don't know what it was. I got enough on my play. I can't role play this horse.

Yeah, I, the DM very clearly did not want to role play a horse. Tricking you into summoning an animal that didn't talk. That was definitely a one time joke that you really latched on to. That's the DM does not like. That's the intention behind it all. I was thinking, I was thinking, oh, maybe this DM was like setting up this quest to retrieve this creature from another plane,

like the plane of summons, you know? No, he didn't want to do a horse voice, right? He didn't want to do the horse voice anymore. This case is like also comes from a DM, but it's like my player Percy keeps on summoning a horse Talking to me Incessantly one time I said hey as it showed up and now he loves John and we're staying out of them all the time Is there a world there's like a one percent chance taking the DM side for a moment here

That the DM's name is also John and Percy is incredibly rude to John the horse. Obviously putting John in danger a lot. John's dying a lot. Maybe Percy is an unreliable narrator and Percy was being super rude to John a lot of the time. And that's why the DM took John away. You know, you're doing mental gymnastics. And how do I look?

How does my brain look? Does it look hot? I mean, I'd watch it. Yeah, your brain looks hot. All right, my brain's in a singlet, and it's doing a lot of back flips into an Olympic-sized pool. Yeah, I mean, the mental gymnastics are quite impressive. You just need to just leave broke all of your bones.

I fell into the Olympic-sized pool on our now-trowning. Why did my brain have bones? Yeah. Your brain had a lot of bones. My brain had a lot of bones. It was part of the problem. Why did my brain have bones? Yeah. You brain had a lot of bones. I brained out of bones. It was so heart-wrenching. Yeah. Like the fact that they tried daily to something

of that and never could. And then also the character died. Never found the worse again. And then the girl got a reunite of a death. At least in describing the death, you gotta be like and per se as you Enter you know with the glory. So you probably had some god that you were the champion of as you enter your gods arms You look over and running towards you through a field of wheat is

John I never stop thinking about you I never stop thinking about you. But you also, you can extrapolate even further from what you guys inferred, which is like this player had the talking horse that was taken away. Then the player incessantly every single day rolled to try to get it back so much so that the DM had to kill that player off. Versus dead. And then they ended the campaign.

So the conspiracy grows, you think that the DM killed Percy to stop the job. To stop the job. Yeah, and then, and then he was like, you know what, I just, I can't deal with this. I can't hang out with you anymore. Yeah, okay. This is all. Everybody in the party was like,

hey, if John's not here, we'll walk. Yeah, but the case has written, I don't know. You know, sort of ironically, this DM jumped through a lot of hoops to not do a horse voice Can a horse jump through a hoop? I think so. I mean Oh, yeah, I mean they jump over the little bars. They jump over the little bars But a hoop is a different story, but if I was gonna say I can jump through like a thin children's

You say that was such confidence. No, we've seen it. Yeah, we've seen it. It's up through a freaking hoover. I hope. Did you see it on your trip? Yep. Wow.

Okay. So it's like a beautiful Italian steed. Just dump through a hoop. Yeah. So anyways, I'm going to side with the player here. Yeah, we're side. I think we got aside with with John and Percy. I mean, I did my gymnastics for the day. I'm feeling fit. I'm feeling fine, but I think I will aside with John and Percy. I mean, I did my gymnastics for the day.

I'm feeling fit, I'm feeling fine, but I think I will side with Percy. Right, yeah. Okay, so what's the punishment? The DM can only talk in a horse voice from a wrong person. Very good. They clearly don't want to talk in a horse voice. Right, wow.

And the horse voice just to sample it, Murf, would you please? Um, hello! I mean, I'm feeling a bit hoarse. You know, it'd be fun if another punishment could be that they have to change their dating profile to be the name John with a picture of a horse. Oh, that's actually really good. Yeah, yeah, I like that. And then in the bio, it says says like, can jump through hoop.

Yeah, in parentheses any hoop. Yeah. Every date you go on you're gonna have to explain. Even in parentheses, even a hoopier ring. Yeah. You can do that. It is easier for a horse to jump through a hoop than it is for a rich man who entered the kingdom of heaven.

Mm-hmm. Shout out to the Bible. Shout out to the Bible, everybody. Shout out to the Bible, Shout out to the Bible, everybody. Shout out to the Bible, pretty much book number one. Cool. So ordered, your dating profile is now horse. And you have to say shout out to the Bible and your dating profile. Shout out to the Bible.

It's just big circle horse. You say your name is John. You can say I can jump through any hoop even a hoop earring Shout out to the Bible And your name is John John moors. Yeah, like the book my name is John moors. I talk like a horse I also think it should be like not not a picture of a full horse It's just like a prop up picture of a full horse. Just like a propap picture of a horse.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, like the horse sat for a horse. You gotta be able to see if the horse is handsome. And yeah, it could be a Bojack Horseman situation. Yeah. Okay, cool, so ordered. Art S, right, man, please the court and that guy who was on 8-bit book club at one time.

Oh, I think for you ever on 8-bit book club. Yeah, right, I was, yeah. I'm with with the guests. I was a guest. Special guest. Special. Yeah. I've been on, well, I've been on several since, yeah, I've been on a bunch. I've been kind of like the new frigging co-host. It's under review. It's under review. It's interesting. Yeah, like, I'm like, yeah, I'm doing it all the time. All right. I do have a game where I have a player playing the new dragon ranger class who is really hesitant to use their little buddy in combat as they didn't want to risk it dying. And I'm a giant bond to encourage them to enjoy it

and use it for more than a horse re-skin. I offered to swap out the HP for MP or morale points. Where if it dropped to zero, it would run away and hide. That is such a good idea. Yeah, this is apparently an issue for another piece. Oh, why? Who in the Drake ran away this session instead of falling to the ground or disappearing got really quiet.

And after the game asked me privately, why the Ranger got to keep their dragon? I haven't used the system before and even after offering to change that case for their wizards familiar They were still really upset is this a fine ruling and what's fair for people who would have wished for this to have been Their thing from the beginning before I thought of it. Well first off a wizard familiar is magic Yeah, the wizard familiar just comes back. So that's not any danger. But we should look up Drake Warden Ranger to see what the details like. Like can you resurrect your Drake? I imagine you must be. I feel like people can just do

didn't we with pop pot which is like we just set out loud. He has plot armor and he would just go to zero HP. Yeah. Because for a majority of it, we never used to mechanically empaddle. So I do understand, to give some understanding, it's like this person's got fine familiar and then they're looking at someone else who isn't facing any consequences. Let me look at Drake Warden. Okay, here we go. Drake Companion. As an action, you can magically summon the Drake that is bound to you.

It appears in an unoccupied space of your choice within 30 feet of you. The Drake is friendly to you and your companions. Let's see. The Drake remains until it is reduced to zero hit points until you use this feature to summon the Drake again until you die. Okay, great. So it doesn't even die, it just disappears. Right.

Yeah, there's truly no difference. There's no difference. Like mechanically, there's no difference. It's not like maybe this player thought that they were going to run back into battle or something like that. I think the player probably just didn't want their animal familiar to die. Yeah. And maybe didn't realize, I think the DM maybe didn't realize that once

the Drake goes to zero, just disappears and can resummit again. So I think you're right, but maybe for the wrong reasons. I think this is a great solve, but I don't think it needed to solve because the thing doesn't die. Well, no, no, but this person, it could be, it could be fair to say that like this person doesn't want to see their... They're Drake at her. Drake at her. So I think that was a really hard solution. Yeah, that's true.

And I'm a little unclear what the wizard is upset about. It's classic, Percy wizard. Yeah, I've been like, why did they get something cool? Uh-huh. I'm mad. Give me spells. I'm mad about stuff going on at my-huh. I'm mad. Give me spells. I'm mad about stuff going on at my house,

but I'm just gonna tell you about your... I'm taking her down on you. I think that I really like the morality points. I think you did. You could offer the same situation for some of your day. I mean, they did, they did. They were just gonna have mad. Because they're like,

this should have been offered from the jump or something. Well, okay, but that's just an insane thing to say retroactively, you should have heard this. Retroactively, you should have fixed something I wasn't complaining about. Yeah, the wizard wanted an apology, which is what I think was supposed to do. But also, mechanically, the Drake Warden

can just summon without a spell slot. Yeah. The wizard is still gonna have to do a ritual cast or cast the spell. Yeah, I would say it's on this, as long as you make it so that maybe when they get to zero morality points, you have to cast summon Steed again to get their hit points up.

That way the spell slots stay the same. Yeah, but yeah, the switcher's kind of being not cool. It really sounds like somebody dinged the Wizards Toyota in the parking lot, and they're still carrying that weight and they're excited about that. And they're bringing that to the session. Yeah. You can just buff that out.

I mean, my friend has get dinged, guys. Yeah, that's, I got myself a Corolla. It's dinged everyone. That's true, you're gonna get dinged. Yeah. You get freaking dinged. I drive a Toyota as well. I've got my four runner on the streets in New York City. That thing is dinged. It's dinged, it's dinged with these guys. Yeah, I drive a Toyota as well. I put my four runner on the streets in New York City that thing is dinged

Maybe somebody actually dings a Corolla with their RAV4 when they're parking next to the garage And you know, maybe they don't actually confess. I saw you Did you ding my Corolla? I'm saying I'm playing dingers advocate. I'm not saying that I dinged it I'm saying that somebody could have dinged it. So, I, let's move on. I said, I said I with a DM, I really like your solution. I think that sometimes people are particular and it sounds like this wizard is maybe just particular and that's their own thing. And you didn't do anything wrong.

You definitely didn't do anything wrong. I feel like this wizard should have their Karola dinged. Yeah. You went above and beyond. We're going to trash this have their Karola dinged. Yeah, you went above and beyond. We're gonna trash this person's Karola. And if they don't have a Karola, we're gonna buy them one and destroy it. Yeah, a new color!

We're gonna actually, we're gonna go ahead and lease it for this. That's cool. And then they're on the hook. Yeah, and we're not gonna buy the extra protection insurance, which I always have to buy now. Yeah, we're gonna lease it and we're gonna give the really low mileage to you.

You're basically gonna get it. It's gonna be great. It's gonna show up in your driveway with one of those big carboes. You're gonna be so excited. And we're just gonna pop out of the trash cans and we're all gonna show up on scooters. We'll tease out. Yeah, we're gonna tease you for a couple of months. They're both here to pause it.

It's essentially undrivalable. Yeah. I'm gonna pull out a freaking sock full of golf bags. We're all here to pause it. It's essentially undrivable. I'm gonna pull out a freaking sock full of golf balls. I just go nuts on the tail legs. We're all wearing cut off denim vest that say dingers on the back. Yeah, we say dingers. We've got super short shorts on.

We're sunburned all hell. Yeah. Cause guess what, we input sunscreen on. Uh-oh. Cause we're mad, we're chaps. I'm wearing cargo pants. Yeah. What? James wearing really long cargo pants. We're because we're mad. We're chaps. I'm wearing cargo pants. Yeah. What? James wearing really long cargo pants. We're wearing really short jorts and reviews. And I'm

wearing Janko's. Yeah. And Emily's wearing. Side lining my scooter. And I have to use your all the torn pants. I have to go inside and piss really. Yeah. James has to go inside and use the bathroom and he has to go so bad that he tinkles a little bit on the floor. He gets in the bathroom. Tinkles before he goes. On the carpet. You have a carpet and if you don't have carpet, we're gonna lay some down.

Emily is gonna tear her jankos. They're gonna get all wet from the piss and then she's gonna step on them and then you're gonna have torn janko shreds all over your driveway. I'll try every fluid from your front yard into your house with my jankos. Yes.

Yeah. This is like a push broom, but yes. My jankos are a swift one. So just get ready, we're coming over, and we're buying you a Corolla. Congratulations, you just got a new car. So order, watch your back, motherfucker. Badger among men, rights. May it please the Almighty Court?

Still laughing. Remember the quick. May it please the Almighty Court. It still happened. Remember the quick. May it please the Almighty Court and the Masterful Baylor Jake. All right. There you go. There you go. Yeah, not to be.

Just, yeah. Just nice. I present to you the case of the racoonicorn. So racoon's are coming back. My players found a home brew five E creature called a raccoon accord. A raccoon that grew a horn and gained the power of a unicorn.

They nearly demanded I add one into the campaign. But the problem is that in our world, raccoons and unicorns are not native to the same plane. So they'd have to find some way to artificially create a raccoon accord. They decided to try and use find greater speed to summon a unicorn, which they then plan to kill andially create a raccoon accord. They decided to try and use find greater speed to summon a unicorn, which they then planned to kill and feed to a raccoon.

Oh, God. I told them that since it was summoned using a spell that it wasn't a real unicorn, and I wouldn't allow them to create a raccoon accord. The table was upset saying that I was just trying to stop them from having fun. Was I wrong to deny my players a magical sentient raccoon familiar? I wait your judgment. I do agree that you are trying to stop them from having fun. Was I wrong to deny my players a magical sentient raccoon familiar?

I wait your judgment. I do agree that you are trying to stop them from having fun. However, I disagree with their style of fun. I disagree with how it played out, but if my table is like, you really want a raccoon accord, easy. That's an easy way.

Like, you're actually building the world. You can make it exist. It's cute, but isn't it? We go to this every once in a while. It's that zombie robot's humor, right? Right, but just think if everyone is willing to embrace the cringe, is it even cringe? I'm saying, I'm saying like, I'm not gonna judge. I'm not gonna judge what my table is excited about and be like actually you shouldn't be

excited about that. I'm gonna be like that's what you're excited about cool. So if it's if raccoon accordance what they want, then sweet. I instantly tweak it so that it exists in my world. I am confused about why they needed the raccoon to eat a unicorn. So, I was on board until their method of creating the raccoons. They're not playing too wide. They're LL so random. It didn't show respect for the idea of a raccoon unicorn, right? It went from being like, oh my god these guys are excited about a cute

little animal to being like, oh, these are mad scientists. Right. They're playing two different campaigns. One of them is like, oh yeah, peanut unicorn to a raccoon. And the other one was like, well, those don't exist on the same plane. You actually use something that with a fine steed, which is a spell, which means it's like,

these are not the same. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Half of them are raccoon, half of them are unicorn, and it's hard for them to meet in the middle. I see both sides to it because even though it's not quite my sense of humor, I could understand why somebody would just want to do the loony tunes then. And they're just like, I want to- It's only someone made bacon.

Yeah, there you go. Epic bacon stuff. I think a recoon-acorn sounds cute. Okay, it sounds cute. It's very cute. Oh, that's fun. But I also see where the DM's coming from in that, like, I don't know, it takes a lot of time to prep stuff and to get excited about this stuff

and part of it is world building and the integrity of your world. And it's a lot easier to get excited about something when you have control of your world. And once you're like, you know what, Daffy Duck exists. It just makes it a little less. Counterpoint, my counterpoint, Murr.

You are focusing on the details of it. If us at the table got really excited about the idea of a raccoonicorn, wouldn't you be like, oh, this is a fun thing to float? I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like, oh, you guys a fun thing to float. I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like, oh, you guys have heard of this plane in which, in which the raccoon accord runs wild. And then suddenly we have a whole mission

and we're excited about it. I agree that you shouldn't, there's no reason to just give your players whatever they want. Right, yeah. Like, I wanna raccoon accord, which means I'll just feed a unicorn to a raccoon. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanna raccoon accord, which means I'll just feed a unicorn to a raccoon.

Right. Yeah, that's what we don't want that. But like let's, I'll get you there in my own way. Right, yeah. Let's hint it, let's tease it, let's put you on a quest. Which I would argue that this DM kind of was doing like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like, we're not on the same point.

We're like, you can get a raccoon accord eventually. So your players actually do kind of suck because they were like, well, you're just the one of them. Yeah, you have to give it to me instant. All right. All right. So we will have fun. You're your call. The only way I can have fun is if I have a raccoon accord. But also like the only way I can have fun is instant gratification. I this idea came to me and I would like it now. Totally. Exactly. And like I don't want to work that hard. It's like, okay, we want it. We can't just have it. Then I'll just look at the rules. I will say it is such a little thing

that part of me is like, you should just give in, but at the same time, I don't know, if you think back at like campaign one, we'd make jokes about like, Bev going to Ruby Tuesdays with his dad. Right. And if Caldwell was really insistent, like, no, this has to be canon.

I need to, right now, have a flashback to me and my dad at Ruby Tuesdays. I think I might just flat out say no. You know what I mean, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I feel like, like, I think I might just be like, I'm all three of us.

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It's like, it's not your turn. That's where it happened. You know, we have fun. This would be my third game of D&D ever. I don't know if this is a good game. I don't know if this is a good game. And that is actually a good point, because I feel like, they've made a lot of jokes about Ruby Tuesdays, but I feel like, you know, anytime I would do that, I a good point, because I feel like they've made a lot of jokes

about Ruby Tuesdays, but I feel like, anytime I would do that, I would be glancing over at Merrf to be like, where am I? How far am I teering? Where am I actually? But counterpoint though, is the DM can listen to it, and then know that all of Hot Boy Summer was you guys saying, fucking stupid shit,

and then me being like all right they're gonna get really amped if I throw this in their path. Yeah, it's true. It's a balance. It's definitely a balance. It is balanced, but it sounds like this DM would try to create the balance. Yeah, and the players I think flew up the handle. This DM didn't say they don't exist at all. They said they're on a different plane. Yeah. They're they're method of trying to create it to like I said, it does not show respect for either animal. That's true.

It is treating them animals like a commodity to create some sort of designer familiar and I don't like that. Yeah, let the raccoon and the unicorn meet at a restaurant, fall in love. Yeah. At a Ruby Tuesday. At a Ruby Tuesdays, they go on a first date,

they go on a second date, eventually. One leads to another you got some raccoon they're really should there should be Coitus involved here yeah quite is or some sort of chaos reality altering planes oh yeah chaotic in which just a full wand of vision to create this raccoon yeah exactly yeah so who the players are going to be punished I'm yeah yeah, can I think I'm on the DM side? Although I will say that whether or not you're right doesn't really matter here. So who's disagree? So just take comfort in knowing that we think you're correct. Yeah, we think you're correct. We're sorry. That's so sorry. We're sorry. You should probably give them a raccoon. Yeah.

I also like I don't know who walks away from that session feeling good. Yeah. Like if you let them succeed, I don't know what that session becomes. Yeah, what do you, like what do you say to a significant other when you get home and they're like,

how was your, how was your game tonight? Yeah. I have raccoons. Yeah. I ran to a horn. So many I'm Raccoon. Yeah, I'm Raccoon. I'm one of a horn. So many unicorns fed us to a raccoon. Yeah. And then we didn't know what to do with it.

Um, my DM, who is the, my friend, the DM who is a friend of mine looked really sad about it. They did all this work world building and then I just showed up with Doritos half an hour into it. And said I wanted to raccoon a corn. Do you want to look at lull cats? Look at this meme. Hell areas. Oh wait you're just a pile of pillows. Oh no. Oh my god you left for good reason. Oh my god you emptied your drawers. You didn't even leave a note. You're just your dog. But the girl up, it's done.

She did the dog. How are you? I mean, that's not like a punishment right there. I sound like a punishment. Yeah, or their or their jankos could get caught in the wheel of a carol up. Oh, that's it. That's a way. That's a way. No, you mean like sucked into the the wheel of a Corolla. Oh, that's a good way. That's a good way.

No, you mean like sucked into the wheel well of a Corolla. It's a small. It's a big, it sucks into the wheel well. It could just rip the pants away from the body. Yeah, that's true. Your favorite pair of Jankos. You're right. Jankos on a crowded street.

I feel like that's 50, 50, whether it's comedy or tragedy though. Oh yeah, absolutely. Cool. So ordered. Will S, writes on X case, will writes to the great justices and the great bailiff. Okay.

Oh, there you go. I appreciate that. Great, I do appreciate that. Great. Great. There we go. There you go. Thank you. Great at sucking. There we go. There you go. Thank you.

Great at sucking eggs. Whoa. Because you eat pretty healthy. That's a neutral statement. That's definitely a neutral statement. That's good. Teetering on an insult and then sitting, constantly walking back.

So, eating eggs. Wow. Because you look malnourished and you need eggs. Wow. Jakes at the eggs again. So I'm getting egg-assolently. Nice. I'm running a campaign where all the characters are chaotic because the starting place was a prison

where they would escape through the underdark. All right. Oh, that's fun. That's really fun. One of my players always wanting to play outside the box characters made a cobalt cavalier fighter barbarian named Dog who rides the other PCs. Okay.

But trying to have a story relevant to their backstory, the party ran into Dog's old warden or Warren who tasked the party with a mission and secretly asked dog to betray his party members and bring all their magic items. And okay, so dog agreed. Right, right. And you should never do this. Yeah. Me thinking this will lead to some cool moments between PCs, I message the player asking

him to ready some lines or think about what you're going to do or say and write them down because in my mind, this is a big moment and maybe some pvp. He replied that there will definitely be pvp and that because dog the cobalt would not be prepared, he would not prepare either. I kind of like this dude. I was gonna say this dog shoots from the head. I know it doesn't end well because you're rubbing it. You messed it up, show. I do.

I can't help but kind of risk back to that. I'm running for dog for sure. I love it. We love dog. I like dog. I'm reluctantly left to that because I assumed he was busy. It all culminated in the party completing the mission and dog blocking the path back, repeatedly screaming, no, no, no. For a couple of rounds of combat until the warlock successfully suggested him to come.

Everything worked out, but do I have the right to feel salty that I didn't get a big player moment? Or am I asking too much of my PCs dog told you exactly what dog was gonna. I think I think that you PC's are gonna play it how they feel like playing it and what you just described sounds so funny. I don't understand. No, no, no, no. It's funny to us, it's funny to us knowing everything. But I'm a little bit confused as to what happened at the table. Does the table even know that dog kind of betrayed them? Or did he just in the middle of a battle?

Start yelling no at a tunnel. No. And where does the fact that dog likes to ride He just in the middle of the battle Start yelling no at a tunnel. No And where does the fact that dog likes to ride the other players come in? Where is our mouth gonna be if dog is Okay, okay, I'm gonna get me but I really I'm the way I'm picturing this. I'm just really enjoying it So is there a possibility that actually blocking the path but screaming no was showing dogs inner? That was dogs' hodor moment.

Yes. So that was amazing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, yeah. That was dog acting. Get dog the Emmy. No, no. So I wonder, that was dog acting Get dog the Emmy. No So I wonder if the other players just didn't know what was happening and it's like dog what the fuck are you doing? No Right dog was protecting them. I know the only way dog knew how I

Don't know but it's possible that this DM wanted it to feel more Well, I think yeah, the DM it sounded like the DM actually wanted PVP, which I was surprised when I first heard it. I was like, oh, the DM's floating this out there, so dog can have a moment where maybe it seems like dog's gonna work against the party, but then stands up to the one who actually wanted dog to betray the party. Yeah. And dog, funny though, they completed a mission and then one of the players inexplicably

blocked the path. And it just got around. Yeah, they can't. The warlock cast calm on dogs, what they said. Yeah. So dog just had to like stop. I love the confidence of just being like I'm just gonna shoot from the hip Dog wouldn't know and also dogs got this dog theoretically would have no like plan because dogs

There's absolutely Every man at the table. Oh, yeah, I'm I'm picturing dog like looking at their character sheet Looking back picture dog the bounty hunter wall This is how I am yeah dog the boney hunter cobalt cobalt though. Yeah, right, but I'm saying the player is dog the bounty hunter Yes, I like to picture them more panic No, no no What are you doing, dog? No, yeah, I would have been a good PvP moment.

I mean, it's almost, I understand why the warlock would cast calm, but what's the wording of calm? I feel like that would just like calm your emotions. Which I think it, I mean, it's kind of up to dog. Yeah, dog response to it. Yeah. I'm gonna, unfortunately, I know that I have concocted a story of how this went down in my head that doesn't line up with reality, and I'm incredibly partial to it. So I have to abstain from this.

Really? You're excusing yourself. I'm recusing, because the story I'm picturing is really making me laugh laugh and I can't be impressed. I'm like casting dog is someone funny in my head. I have turned dog into a folk hero in my head and I can't be proud of you. To respond to that, I'm not gonna be fair. I got good dog with me there. Have a good day, man. So all the insulation is so funny, and I can't be the part. I'm picturing like Doug says,

like, that sounds really great. I'm not gonna prepare though. Yeah, Doug is on Do Not Disturb. Doug out. The thing I'll say to the DM is that everything that you set up sounds super fun. Yeah. So I'm sorry, I have to recuse myself

because I can't be. I'm gonna say I'm gonna come out and be a person. I'm gonna say I'm gonna come out and be a part for Doug. Really? I love my dog song. Yeah, because I think't be. I'm gonna say I'm gonna come out and be a person. I'm gonna say I'm gonna come out and be a person. Really? I love my dog song. Yeah. Because I think that as soon as you sent first off, you're kinda trying to create some shenanigans.

You're trying to create a baby. Yeah. Which means that you're being a little bit of a trickster. Right. And you got tricked back. Yeah. Uh-huh. Dog dog, do you?

Dog dog, do you? Yeah. This is a damn lesson where like you're putting too much trust into the player To make like to do something that you want in your game Dog the cobalt who rides the other players said don't worry. I got You should have known that they don't got this right. Yeah, you should have had a backup plan That's fair saying that maybe there was a judgment call on the DMs.

Even you guys, you were obviously incredible improvisers. If I said something to you guys and was like, hey, just so you guys know this backstory thing's gonna come up if you wanna like think about it. If you responded, I'm not gonna think about it. Yeah. I mean, I'd pause. It would give me pause.

And your professionals, you're not dog. So I'm coming out hard for dog. It's like James Gunn writing Suicide Squad and then like just thinking, I'll just wing it on the first act. Figure it out. Dog saying no, no, no, at the tunnel is, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm figuring out like the script for Suicide Squad and just like, there's just a scene that's just like

location, outdoors, and then just in parentheses, we'll figure this one out on the day. It's your cell bus here, I guess. Let's get the cast together and figure something out for this. Yeah, Joker does something crazy. Jared, you got this. So we're punishing the DM. I'm not saying any name.

Emily's abstaining is anyone not on dog side. I'm on dog side. Okay. Called well. I'm gonna choose, it doesn't matter. It's what we do, but we would like you on record. Yeah, it's Tanner. If you're anti-dog, I just feel like it's hard because the DM should have known better

than to trust dog. But is that enough to punish the DM? Is that a reason to side with dog? Yeah. Yeah. Dog did what dog was always gonna do. And dog actually told you what dog was saying. But she did not say. She did not say.

She did not say. But dog said, I got the hair. I don't think I can applaud dog for this. Dogs radical transparency. It was just really charming. Okay, so no, no, I'm putting my foot down. No dog, tie dog. Yeah, bad dog, I say.

Bad dog. All right, me and the bailiff are pro dog, so we need to punish. I'm pro abstinence. And we love not fucking so celibate. The celibate justice. Yeah, I respect the robes. So. Too much to let it ever come off.

Yeah. I take baths on it. All right. So we need to punish. It's so great. It's so heavy. We need to punish the DMs. Yes.

Uh-huh. Okay. I disagree, but I respect you to the death. So let's do this. Okay. Okay. Oh. All right. Oh, maybe they just have to take a shower in a judges' robes.

Oh, that's a lie. That's a lie. Yeah, that's a tough. Yeah, that's a heavy robe, but a light punishment. And yeah, you're gonna be tracking water all throughout the house. You're gonna be my janko. And you're gonna ruin the interior of your corolla.

Oh, I forgot it. Oh, you can forget that cloth is never gonna smell right again. I'm gonna rush my janko and you're gonna ruin the interior of your corolla You can forget that cloth is never gonna smell right again. That's gonna be a mildewed corolla right there You are going to be a mildewed And you gotta be soft in all day, right? Oh, yeah, you gotta let it air dry. Yeah, you gotta let it Oh, yeah, you can sit outside. Yeah, you can roll down the moon roof on the Corolla though. Yeah. Do they have a moon roof? No, no they don't. No, I didn't think they did.

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Okay, that's it for me. Go team pants and enjoy the show. Okay, so ordered, our next case comes from Michael M. Michael writes, may it please the court and pleasure, the bailiff. Thank you. Oh, thank you. You deserve it. You deserve a little treat.

Okay, thank you. How about chocolate? That's just condescending enough. Chocolate. Give me a little tickle. I give you what may be the least satisfying mechanic I've ever heard of. Ooh. This is starting out. Salty. Ooh. I give you what may be the least satisfying mechanic I've ever heard of. Oh!

This is starting out. Salty. I've been playing in a 3.5 E campaign of my DMs own brewing for the last four and a half years. We had some issues a while back, but overall, there's really only one major complaint. I, and at least another player, have with the way our crits are dealt out.

Oh, no. Our DM makes us crit, confirm all our Nat 20s as well as our Nat ones. When somebody rolls a Nat one, the DM will have that person roll again to determine how bad or catastrophic the failure may be. Typically, at least a roll of 10 is required to just have the action be unsuccessful rather than detrimental. If somebody rolls a Nat 20, however, we then need to roll again and hope the number was above a 10 to have it even be counted as a 20 total on a skill.

If it's below a 10, we have in the past lost out on double damage for attacks and once when a natural one came up on the confirmation roll, the skill check was then unsuccessful. Is this just a raw thing from a bygone era of D&D? Please judge us so we may figure out a solution or get on with the thing. I mean, I don't know. It's not clear. I mean, we put this never came up for us.

I gotta say, I hearing this story physically hurt me. Yeah, yeah, I can only agree. It's tough. All of the joy gone, like when you roll that 20, it's an exclamation. It's like, oh, again, like, okay, there's the crit and let us confirm. Because even, because you're never gonna be happy.

Also calling it crit confirms is like, oh God. It's no one satisfying too, because unless you crit again, it's anti-climactic. Because if you crit and then you get a 17, you're still then looking at the 17, it's still kind of a middling success. You're like, yeah, I guess this is fine. Weirdly, I'm equally bothered by the not ones being taken.

Yeah, you just complicated a perfectly fine system. Like it didn't yeah, I wonder why This DM feels inspired to over complicate. No, but I will give kudos to these players for sticking it out for four and a half Confirm yeah, that's one college length of time. Yeah That's one college length of time. Yeah. You have a major in crit confirmation. Crit confirms sounds like doing your taxes. Yes, you could have been confirmed in the Catholic Church in the amount of time that you've

been crit confirming. Yeah, it's wild to me that also that you and another player feel like this. Like if two people at the table feel like this. Like, face is bad, right? Right. Oh, I mean, it's okay. If the story's great and you guys are having a lot of fun and just just one mechanic, it's like,

I can understand just being like, well, listen, this annoys me, but okay. This is a problem with, I don't know, I feel like a lot of homebrew that tries to mess with the D20 or trying to add like a bunch of dice instead is is I get the idea that you're looking at it from a completely mechanical standpoint, where you're like, what are the odds that you have a 5% chance of failing like everything,

and a 5% chance of having like great success and stuff? That's not how things work, there's not that big of having like great success and stuff. That's not how things work. There's not that big of a range of success and failures and everything. If you're good at something, you're good at something. Yeah, cobblers don't exist. Shut the fuck up. Exactly, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Well, would you guys think of you played in a campaign where it was reversed, where one was failure and 20 was, or one was success and 20 was failure. If you went into an upside down world. Oh, just like an alternate universe for everything's the same except for that. That'd be fun. I think.

A mind fuck or would it be like, I don't do that to me. I think it would be really rough for the first two sessions, but I get used to it. I would be worried about the dice crisis level. Oh my God. Oh. Wow.

Because we had, there was like the- Superstitious. There was a thing in campaign one where you guys got cursed. Oh yeah. No, your nat 20's got turned in at one, I think. That was awful. But there was also, we had a dice that like had the word fuck. Oh, for a one and like a yeah for the nat 20.

And I was like, it'd be cool if fuck was the 20. Cause it's fuck, yeah, dude. But then like I felt weird, you know, doing that. Cause it was, I knew that it wasn't, yeah. It wasn't right, yeah. It wasn't what Dice Grades wanted, no. Well, I think, I mean, like, I think we're all totally on your side that this mechanic sounds

so boring, fun, not fun. Yeah, it's, you've all graduated, you're adults now. Like you need to talk to your DM about this. No matter what school you were in when you started this, you've graduated, that's how long it's been. Yeah. See, you're, you're over there. Unless you're in elementary school,

in which case, just don't write it. It's fantastic. Yeah. You shouldn't listen to the show. It is, it is interesting too, because even if you're doing a thing that you're like, okay, this is gonna be in counter checks and you have to roll a D20 for it. You still, I feel like when you're doing that,

you're like, well, I gotta make sure that the 20 still feels like a crit and I gotta make sure that the one still feels like a failure. Yeah, only way this system works for me is if it's like a like devil's dice situation where you roll the net 20 and it's like, okay, you can roll another one and if you roll two net 20s,

the damage is like quadrupled, but if you roll a one on that, it's all undone. So we're almost like double down. Yeah, if you can gamble, oh that's fun. I like that, that's fun. You roll again and only the one in 20 count. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything else is gone. Everything else is gone. It undoes the crit and it's 20. I like that, honey, it's fun. I like that. You roll again and only the one in 20 count. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything else is gone.

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Everything else is gone. Everything else is gone. Everything else is gone. Everything else is gone. Everything else is gone. Everything else got your robes on, you've got your mortars. You're all smoking big ol' cigars. Your parents are there. Right, and like, you know, like after you've had like a few drinks and you're like talking about

like what you're gonna do next year, who's living with who? And they're like congrats on graduating sixth grade. Yeah, exactly. Bring your DM aside, take them to like an empty corner of the room and like just pitch them on this idea. Yeah. Yeah, say like I'm gonna be seven graders. Yeah, we're adults now Okay, yeah, so I think we're yeah, we're all on your side. We do have to punish them though

We have to punish the punishment the punishment is that the DM needs to start doing coldwells freaking cool. Yeah, do you call those cool ideas? Yeah, it's kind of a punishment. And you as the player need to just go up to your DM apropos of nothing, not explaining the situation, just go in a jury-side-filled voice. You got to do coldwells idea. It's the devil dice, Jerry. Bro, bro! Bro, bro! Bro, bro! Bro, bro! It's the Devil Dice, Jerry! Okay, so ordered. Alright, our next case comes from Noah S. Noah writes,

Two The Justices Who Are Open. Are you sure this isn't multiple Noah's? Oh, Noah's! Thank you, Noah! So all the Noah's wrote to the justices who are okay and the bailiff who I am obligated to be nice to because he chooses the cases. Oh, I love that one.

Okay, that's me. I like that one. I love that one. I don't like that so many Noah's are teaming up on you. Yeah. Yes. I bring to you the case of my shit brother and my unhinged paladin.

Yes. Yes. This is a really toxic thing. Oh, the elements of my shit brother and my unhanged paladin. Yes, yes. This is a really toxic deal. All the elements of a toxic deal. I'm tucking a napkin into my shirt. I do. I did the Three Black Havings deep dive on paladins and I was telling them that like in the beginning we used to get all these stories about like rogues, like kind of rogues gone wrong, but lately I feel like we've been getting some toxic

paladins. No, we should spin this off into an episode called Tales from the Toxic Table, which is just not even in cases, it's just these terrible stories. Or we should do all paladins, all rogues, and have people submit only a certain... Yeah. That's so fun. ...and we decide once and for all. Who's the problem player?

I'm going to do the problem player. Who's the problem player? Because it's one or the other. Yeah. OK. I was playing in a session one of a new campaign. My friend was running with my brother and a few friends. I played a paladin whose name is Gabriel,

who has a god complex and made an oath to himself. Oh, sick. My brother plays a rogue cancun named Kraft. You're both, you're both that player. They're both that person. This is it. Look, let's hear more about Kraft though. The DM started explaining the characters

and the setting we were in and all was going smoothly until he said the plot hook. My brother decided Kraft wouldn't be interested in the campaign and instead tried to rob me. Oh, okay, crash to worse right now. I caught him due to a Nat 20 perception check and he tried to run away from the party and leave the campaign entirely. I thought that the DM started to panic a little so I decided to grapple crash and essentially kidnap him in order to keep the party together. The fact that you guys are siblings is absolutely,

like I am just picturing these spiraling siblings while a DM is like looking at all these notes that they can no longer use. But I think why do you need your brother to play so bad? Like the best way to do that. But Gabriel or Noah's plural gave us the context which is they saw the DM is it's kind of freaking out. So they're trying to round me.

And you gotta get in front of that. This is all happening in a comic story in like a random group of my life. Oh, I hate this. Oh, no. We've all had the experience of being over to friends house. When your friend gets like way too angry at their sibling, right?

And it like becomes uncomfortable. Yeah, that's what I'm picturing. Yeah, my brother used to kick my ass in front of my friends It's like 10 years younger than you know he is eight years younger than me and lots stronger My reasoning in character was to force crash to a tone for his sins against me Which my brother thought was a fun dynamic and was on board with okay? The session however one of the other players in the campaign approached me and accused me of hogging the spotlight.

Oh, no. I fear I may have overstepped my boundary as a player by trying to bring the campaign back on track. Should I have left that to the DM to figure out? I leave myself in the hands of the court. How is that for a twist? Yeah, I feel like. That is a wild experience.

I think that, you think that you guys came in with a pretty established dynamic from being siblings and sometimes that can, you know, you guys are gonna feel more comfortable role playing with each other that they are gonna feel role playing with you. Ficturing the brother stealing from him at the very beginning and then him just like grabbing him for like an hour and a half.

I think we get all agreed that you should have just like crashed leave. We understand where you're coming from. It was like well intentioned, but crashed leave. I'm just kidding. I was really, because he doesn't want crashed leave. But it's also, it's this old table just isn't gonna work. Cause there's so many.

That's true. The rogue stealing from you right away, fucked up. And then the person who got mad at you, that's weird. We're hugging the spotlight. We're hugging the spotlight. Yeah, I think that is tough. The table is too toxic to bear. The table is too toxic.

You're the thing. I think maybe you had missteps, maybe crash had missteps. It sounds like everyone was just misstepin. You need to move tables. You need to switch tables. But take crash with you, because I really like the dynamic of Gabriel and Crash. I want to see a game with Crash and Dog.

No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, again. That was like, I really felt like you were just kind of like hogging the table. What was this paladin doing? I wasn't hogging the table, I was dogging the table. Nice. Okay, understand and I respect you now. What did this paladin do though? They got pulled aside afterwards, after being robbed

by like PVP'd by another player, and they got in trouble at the end. You know, I don't, I honestly just like when I'm gonna come up and say I don't have a stride. I don't feel as though I can weigh in on if you join a random table, how much, how hard you work there. How hard you work there. If you can be like, I don't even know that you can be like, hey, you're hogging the table for this one shot. It's actually, they took a lot of oxygen.

It's like, yeah. It's just like, okay, this guy wanted to leave. I tackled him, then I convinced him to stay, and then it's like, well, that's the African love game. That's the African love game. The tail of crashing Gabriel, real nice. I would agree, I mean, it does sound like crashing Gabriel should go

to a different table. That's fine, yeah. Right? Because you go to a different table and then this person who felt like they weren't getting enough of a spotlight can have the spotlight. I love the dynamic between Gabriel. Right.

His crash is like, it's so chaotic. And Gabriel is like, you know how to talk to crash. Like, okay. No, yeah, give them a spin off table. Is it confirmed that they were just at a random table? Oh, no, I don't think so. I mean, yeah, no, I don't think so. Oh, so we don't know that it was a random.

Yeah, no, I was just making a joke about how it'd be funny if that was a prank. It wasn't funny, because I fully interpreted it that way. Yeah, I want it to be true. It is true though. Okay, so if it wasn't a random table, then maybe it's your friend and they're saying, I don't know, I can't. Yeah, I can't.

I can't. Unless someone really, really hammed it up so hard, I can't imagine after one session pulling someone aside and being like, we have to chat. Like the low key villain of this story is the person that was like, we have to chat. Like the low key villain of this story is the person that was like, you have the spotlight. Yeah. And I don't even have a different note about what happened.

But it being like, you hugged the spot. And there is a world where that's real and that's valid. There's that. Very foreign and strange thing. There's a world where that's valid. I would say in 95% of cases, you could maybe let it go two sessions before you figure out.

I think I'll let it go like five sessions, and then maybe I would ask the DM, like, hey, is there anything I can do to get involved more? I think I would consider reaching out to the DM about feeling not included, rather than another player. Yeah, I think if I approached up, if I approached any player afterwards, I would be like, oh, you know the DM worked really hard on the story or whatever.

Exactly, right? Yeah. You and Crash were just like wrestling. I think that would be maybe the more valid PC to PC interaction to be like, hey, I actually think the DM has like a world they're trying to do. And like right now now It's been really Other players must have also been insane

My crazy shit Tables fucking I will say you know what I'm gonna side with freaking crashing gave me I'll say I don't Given what we know here. I don't think you deserved a chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if it's just down to the chat I don't think that you deserved a chat. I don't think you deserve to chat. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's just down to the chat, I don't think that you deserve to chat. I don't think you deserve to chat. I don't think you deserved that chat. Hey, hey.

You're not the chat you deserve, but not that chat. You and your brother need a chat. You and your DM need a chat. You and whoever this person is, probably don't need to chat. I probably don't. Unless you guys did just talk the whole time. You know, that's true. You could have had a check it.

You could have had a chat with a DM being like, hey man, I'm sorry, I was trying to help you out. I'll try to be more, but that chat didn't mean to, that chat was wack. That chat was wack. That is a joke. It's a max son of a mum for it move, honestly. Yeah.

Just go inside the bar with somebody else. After. Yeah to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide.

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Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and decide. Just to go out and the DM had stuff they wanted to do. Yeah, that's true. I'm choosing you of hugging the spotlight is so. Also, if you're ranked,

like crying out of brother, got away with this. Yeah, I'm kind of anti-crash. I'm anti-the-side bar person maybe. I'm just picturing the side bar person, like having so many notes in their hands, being like, I had several poems prepared. I'm just picturing the sidebar person, like having so many notes in their hands, being like, I had several poems prepared. I think the fact that Noah's, that all of the Noah's, Council of Noah's,

seem to have taken to heart the sidebar person, saying that they hugged the spotlight, makes me trust Noah's. Yes, you know what I mean? There's also multiple of them, so there's like a bunch of, you know, so many Noah's, how could they have the spotlight? Yeah, there's 50 at the table.

Of course they're gonna have the spotlight. The spotlight is divided amongst 50 Noah's. Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, what a cast. It's hard to have the spotlight when there's 50 of you. But I feel like I trust Noah's, if they took that kind of seriously, then I would assume that that type of person

is not being such a ham at the table that nobody else can get a word in. Yeah. I also just really like it when there's clearly like two people on either side of the courtroom. And then the judge just hands down a verdict to like a random other person that's also there that says something kinda snippy.

Yeah. So are we, who's side are we on? I think that's side bar should have talked to the DM if they were unsatisfying. It's also one, I mean, if somebody does something that you're actually uncomfortable with or something, of course, speak up right away, but the idea of like walking up to somebody

being like, you're being kind of a ham. Yeah. We're just playing for one hour. We're siding with Noah's and ultimately, and ultimately with Crash because Crash is on Noah's side. If Noah's, if Noah's plural, all the Noah's, who typed in Unison, if they had been asking, like if the Noah's had been asking,

should I have tackled my brother and made him be in the session? Like the answer would probably be like, no, you shouldn't have that. Yeah, yeah, right. You should have let him go. But that's not your question. Yeah, your question was, should I have been sidebarmed

with after one game? I don't need deserves a second. Yeah, no. And I do think that sidebar should have to DM for Gabriel and Crash. Whoa. Whoa. I mean, that's an honor.

That's a tough table. You'll come to the sidebar Gabriel and Crash. You'll come to the sidebar Gabriel and Crash. Sidebarg, Gabriel and Crash and Dog. Oh, Dog's got to be at the table. Yeah. Dog's coming in. table Gabriel crash and dog Dogs got to be at the table. Yeah dogs coming in dogs coming unprep Dried everyone hey man. I lost my character sheet. Hope that's okay. No Hey dog there's kind of this tent situation with these brothers and this other person that's sidebars with people after somebody talks a little bit too much of a table. Were they pvp could be fun?

Were they pvp could be fun? Yes! Yes! Yeah! Yeah! Roulins out the table, maybe take a little of the heat off? Don't worry, I got this. No! No! No! No! Okay.

Oh, that's our dog. All right, yeah. So we're on your side, unfortunately. Because you guys do sound like a couple of pieces of work. Yeah. Okay, so that just about does it for cases. Let's don our dice deacon hats. And set them to the confession booth.

I'm gonna put mine on backwards. Whoa, yeah. Oh, that's cool. I never took mine off. Wow, and it is soaking wet. Much in the tradition of Swedish Christmas, I do have a wreath at the base of mine with candles lit. So we need to be quick about this, it's going to catch my hat on fire.

Okay. Okay. Cody D. Wright's dear honorable disciples of Dice Christ and Jake. I thought I was elevated in the church, whatever. That's fine. I come to you with a group confessional about a dice roll and a dog. Wow. Another dog.

Oh. Our party got ourselves in a bad situation surrounded by one T. Demi Gods where we were surely going to be T.P. Kade or at least captured. Is the dog days of summer? Sorry. I'm going to leave now. Emily's gone. No, you're killing her. Her janko's got stuck in the wall. She fell out her she's rolling around in her underwear The car is still going you she put it neutral She's doing donuts on her jankos

Big drag behind it goes very slowly, okay, it looks like it's rolling up onto the curve Okay, oh, she's gonna dig it for sure. Oh, it's dinged. It's done. Okay, so, Art One Player had an important dice roll that would likely determine the outcome of the situation for better or worse. So we decided to use the big solid plastic dice

and roll it on the floor for dramatic effect. We got it. Yeah. The dice was rolled and immediately, as it landed on what was clearly a bad roll. My dog quickly snatched it off the ground with the most hilarious teeth on plastic clonk sound and threw it up in the air, and this time it landed on a NAT 20.

Oh! We decided to take the NAT 20 and went on to survive and succeed in escaping, I asked. You did we commit sin in the eyes of dice? No, no, no, no, no. That dice Christ has many agents and most of them are dogs. That dog was dice Christ. They did at the set of the, did we witness a miracle of dice Christ performed through

my dog? Yes, yes. Wow. Dice Christ has inhabited your dog. We have a new dog. We have a new dog. We have a new dog. If you bring your dog. Is that your dog? Is that your witness? Bring your dog to us.

If you flip around the letters in dog, it spells OGD, which is OGs, that dog. That same just all. Whoa. That was, that is so true. Yeah, I felt like inspired by the spirit. That's the reason. So yeah, I feel like I feel like inspired by the spirit. That's amazing. So yeah, I think that dog is dice.

Yeah, dog is dice. That dog is OGD. OGD. And I feel like I might have slightly downed that story if it weren't for the detail about it clanking the clonk at the clonk onto the dice. Yeah, I believe it. I believe I'm picturing like a real like rat terrier size dog.

Yeah, just like real toothy dog. Dice Christ is real and so is your dog. Yep, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Give your dog a hamburger for dinner. Yeah. Yeah, so I think there's no sense to confess,

but there is gratitude to profess. Oh, wow. Well, your dog is dice priced, so show deference to your dog. Yeah. Oh, doggy. Oh, doggy. Yeah, I think that you do have to profess your gratitude by giving your dog a bunch of really good treats.

Yeah, yeah. And teach it to say no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, this is a confession in that you just got to tell us some cool-ass shit. You don't have anything to actually confess. That's awesome. Could you imagine the opposite if you guys rolled like a five and then a cat came over and swatted it and you got in that 20 and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no. If the cat intervened out of nowhere and just knocked it to a nat 20, absolutely, we would take a cat roll. Well, because normally when we're recording, we make sure that the cats aren't in the room, but if one of them got in here and was patient, like, didn't even know.

Yeah, if Grizz bid his time, and then I rolled a nat 20 and Grizz batted it and it turned into a even know. Yeah, if like Gris bid his time. Yeah. And then I rolled in that 20 and Gris batted it and it turned into an at one. Like, no. No, we would keep, well, that's he wins. No, I would accept it. I would accept it.

Then I'm like, we would take the 20. No, no, no, no, no, I wouldn't. I would hand down Gris's blessing. Well, that's the dice devil, right? Yeah. Oh, Gris would be an agent of the dice devil. Yeah. Well, we don't have to worry about Right. Yeah. And that gris would be an agent of the dice devil. Well, we don't have to worry about that.

Thank you all so much for listening. Why don't we plug some stuff? I will be doing bonus cases over on our Patreon.com slash n'ad pod that's NADD, POD, don't sing it. Don't even do it. Don't even think about it. It's fine. Does anybody have anything they'd like to plug?

I actually have a show next week in Montreal. Wow. Oh, you're doing that part without us? Yeah, me and you go doing a watch shot. Wow. You're DMing for you to go? Yeah. We got this guy dog.

Do you come in? Shit. Yeah, no, me and me are doing them. He can handle it. The classic podcast. You said you didn't have to prepare because that's what dog, doggy style. We'll take it for it at jakenameer.com.

So come around. Sweet. Cool. I would love to plug two things. Number one, I want to plug the first 30 chapters of one piece because that's all I've read of it and I really enjoyed it thus far. So check it out.

So if it goes to shit in 31, don't come to Caldwell. That's true. If chapters 31 through 1047 are bad, don't talk to me about it. So I'm not there yet. There it is. I'm not there yet. If Otison's work falls apart, just talk to him about it. But anyway, all I've done a spoiler for Caldwell,

the way he spoils Frozen for you. But I also would like to spoil some of the things that were sent to us at our PO box that that's our warehouse spoil. Spoil me. So we got some beautiful treats. Eleanor sent us a sapphire dice inspired by Emily's Riverboat Shanty song. Oh my god

I'm holding it right now. It's so majestic. Yeah, it sparkles like the river does. Yes It's beautiful and then it has a little slip of paper with the lyrics that say let the river flow. It's what that's sick What a tribute. Check it out. God. That's all right. Cute real-time Jake reaction. Holy shit. Jake seems underwhelmed, honestly. This is real. I could do this. Wow. I have an idea for guys, too. Oh, this is amazing.

Good work. Kelly sent us copies of The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings featuring the weird realistic paintings of all the characters. They're really great. I have them on my bookshelf, and I look at them a lot. The one of Gimli and Legolas is incredible. Kelly also sent us a heartfelt note, which includes a passage about a D&D game

they ran for their nieces. In the game, the nieces all played as gummy bears who had to fight a vegetable dragon that breathed ranch dressing instead of fire. Whoa. Oh, that sounds so fun. Gimli bears bouncing here and there and everywhere. that breathed ranch dressing instead of fire. Whoa. Oh, that sounds so fun. Yummy bass. Bouncing here and there and everywhere.

I adventure that's beyond compare. We are the gummy bears. Do, do, do. I watched that show too, a very... Come on, Jake. I couldn't have called up the song that... Chan and Patrick and Miss Three are part of their history along with the secrets of gummy

beer. There was also a Canadian band that used to listen to that did a version of that song and that's the only reason I actually don't even know that I've seen them TV show. Oh wow, it's good. It's classic. Oh, through the forest they sing out in chorus. I think that's all. We're going to stop recording and you're going to sing the whole thing for me.

I'm going to make Murph ride home with me, as I drive just to hear that. I did want to say Kelly said it's just an incredibly nice note, so I just want to say thank you so much for listening to the show, Kelly. We are honored to know we could be with you during some painful times that you had. Please know that you're kind words, help keep the passion in our hearts burning and we deeply appreciate you writing in I want to end on that one because Kelly We really really appreciate it. Thanks so much. Thanks to everyone that listens for all you do. Thank you Thank you

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