Not Another D&D Podcast - Hearthside Chat Q&A: Skaldova Reflections

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a head gum podcast. Welcome to Hearthside chats everybody. We don't do that. I just did a short rest thing. I know we did the short rest thing. We'll stay close to the fire. We get cozy. I think you have to imagine us all lying prone staring at a flame.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. With the most flammable sweaters you've ever seen. A flame meditation. Candle meditation. We thought this would be fun. We're going to do Heart Side this week in the main feed. We're going to do something pretty fun over on the short
Starting point is 00:00:32 rest. Oh, I'm so excited. The debut of When Did This Come Out. I thought it was When Did Things Come Out. When Did Things Come Out. When Did Things Come Out is the name of the show. When Did This Come Out is too good a name. Yeah, that actually sounds kind of like a real show.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We have to finesse to make everything sound as stupid as possible. Yeah, it needs to sound really dumb. So be on the lookout for that over on our Patreon. Next week we will be back to D&D Court and then on to our next little campaign. But we thought Heartside would be fun, especially because we just finished Skull Dova,
Starting point is 00:01:03 so I'm sure there's some fun DM questions of stuff for Jake Jake you have Gathered the questions. Why don't you take it from there? Indeed? I have why don't we kick things off right away? Oh with asked and ham dancer There's a reason we let him do it King compililator over here. This question is from Little Lad and it comes. Little Lad. This question is from Little Lad. Get a little closer.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Little Lad? Little Lad has a tiny question for you, Emily. Little Lad writes, I am always impressed with how naturally it feels like your characters evolve, i.e. Welly's movement away from sonnets and shifting view on the gods. How do you know what your characters would think in the moment? Are there things you do before sessions to get into their headspace? I do, like so for Welly I was doing a little bit of sonneteering on the side.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah, sonneteering on the side. And I think that I was so romanced. I don't think I could have predicted her fully like moving, she's not away from the gods romance. I don't think I could have predicted her fully moving. She's not away from the gods, but I couldn't have predicted. I came into this being like, oh, she is going to meet the gods and become one and become almost like a priest, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But instead, the story took it in this really different direction, so I had to be like, where is her head at at all times? So yeah, I think I do spend time being like, where is her head at at all times? So yeah, I think I do spend time being like, where is her head at? And I know I spent time after that revelation, I was like, there's a hollowness she could feel if she wanted to, to be like,
Starting point is 00:02:35 oh, this really disappointing thing happened. I found out bad lore and I could feel hollow after that. And I could have a little goth face, but instead I was like, but what is she actually looking for? Is it gods or is it something that's bigger than herself? You know, something bigger than herself to lose herself in. So I was like, okay, actually she's just too bright-eyed to be defeated by this in this moment.
Starting point is 00:03:00 There is still a flirtation of something she can lose herself in. It's like the song says, where is still a flirtation of something she can lose herself in. It's like the song says, where is your boy tonight? And in this case, your boy is your player character. Yes, yes, yes. I listen to where is your boy tonight and journal at the same time.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's actually called Hopi is a gentleman. It's called Grand Theft Autumn, everyone. Thank you so much, I'm so sorry. In parentheses. Where is your boy tonight? When did that come out? Oh, let's not save it, save it. You gotta save it. Oh, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You gotta save it, but I'm gonna guess 2005. But you gotta save it, we gotta save it. I think it's gotta be earlier. Bite your tongue. But that is Emily's superpower, is being super engaged and being the character. Because I even hear it editing, you'll hear as Jake is narrating,
Starting point is 00:03:43 you'll hear like little gasps from Emily. And you know, of just as Wellie, like she just lives as those characters. Yeah, I mean Wellie is very like awestruck by everything. And so I think me, when I'm playing that character, that I'm also awestruck by everything. Yes, yes, yes. Emily has the most beautiful of all of our mind palaces,
Starting point is 00:04:02 I would say. Yeah. For our foundation. It's messy as hell in there. It's full of sonnets, damn it. Now poems. All right, let's move on to Boggy Roger That. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Ooh. Tin four. This one comes from Adam T. Yeah. Caldwell, did you have any unused ideas for members of Boggy's buds? Oh my god. Who didn't make the cut and other ways those?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Might have met their untimely ends Wow That is a good question that I'm definitely prepared for off the top Yeah, William shits is such a good name. What did you leave on the cutting room for? Did you did you come did every single bud get named all 12 of them? No, there's only, oh god, don't make me say more. How many are there? There's Longest Tom, there's Dandio Candles, Sister Bix, Grandpa Crunchums, Flute Boy, William Schitts, and Lady Linnebeth. I have a, I have a text from you that has, that has a list of a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh really? Okay. Yeah. Read the text, ooh this is so, we're getting a peek into your text messages. Holy shit. You guys wanna peek behind the text thread. Yes. Longest Tom, short guy, Boggy's right-hand man.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Sister Bix, cleric and head brewer. Dandy O'Candles, head peak carver. Handles fire and food. I've never seen him get burnt. Perhaps a wizard, question mark. Flute boy, actually really old. Grandpa crunchums, pick pocket rogue, actually a teen. William Shits, bastard son of a nobleman, paladin.
Starting point is 00:05:37 So he has some classes for all these guys. Yes. That is maybe the reveal, the peak I can offer is that I based all of them off of D&D classes because I wanted this to be like Boggy's old party. Yeah, adventure party. Yeah, yeah. Yes. That is maybe the reveal, the peak I can offer is that I based all of them off of D&D classes because I wanted this to be like Boggy's old party. Adventure party. Yeah, adventure party.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Very fun. So I don't know if there are any other names per se, but that is like a nice look behind the screen is that I wanted like kind of almost like this was Boggy, this was my campaign before the campaign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha. I pictured them so different,
Starting point is 00:06:01 so then to add a D&D class onto them. Yeah. I'm like, different, so then to add a D&D class onto them. I'm like, oh, okay. Okay, well, more from the buds later. For now, let's go to Zud, pick your brain. Yeah! The more you crow. Ooh! That's my suggestion for a sub title.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's really good, the more you crow. In parentheses, just like Grand Theft Auto. Amanda M needs to know what color are Zudrick's eyes? Oh, great question. Oh, I think all of our eyes are piercing. Yeah. Yeah, I guess all, yeah, what color are Zudrick's eyes? I have an opinion.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You have an opinion? What's your opinion? I think Emily gets to decide. Yeah, Emily gets to decide, I guess. No, no, no, I wanna hear yours first. I wanna hear yours first. I don't wanna hear it. Canonize me, Captain. I don't wanna influence you.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Okay, so you know how you super live in your characters and stuff? Yeah. I don't. So that's your superpower. Zudrick didn't have eyes to Murph. I would say I don't think I know what color Wellie's eyes are.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Okay. So I don't think I live in them that way. What color eyes do you think Zudrick has? Because this would help me because I'm scrambling right now. A copper brown. Wow, I love that. I fucking love that. I think if I'm thinking about it,
Starting point is 00:07:12 Wellie probably has big brown doe eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be my first thought, but I've never thought about that till this moment. But for Zudrick, I see almost brown with gold flecks in it. That's interesting. I love that. That's perfect for Zedric.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I would say almost maybe slate gray for Wellie. Really? Okay, I could see that too. I don't know, something like the color of the Keystone River. Yeah, exactly. I think the doe eyes is like spot on. Yeah, Em, we should do a new game show called
Starting point is 00:07:39 Em Makes Your Eyes. Because it's not just your eyes, because theoretically everyone already knows what their eyes are Because it not just your eyes, because theoretically, everyone already knows what their eyes are. But Emily makes your eyes. If your character doesn't have eyes. It makes your eyes. Half of fantasy writing is describing people's eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So I think that this is like a service that Emily could offer. It isn't. I think I don't do it. I don't think I do it for my characters enough, because I kind of just like to let that be vague. But I do like reading it in other things. Although sometimes it is kind of like, yeah, no, I do actually remember what color their eyes are.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah. His purple eyes furrowed. Yeah. OK. Yeah, it is fun when it's- It's really fun the first three times if they're sprinkled out through a couple chapters. But by the 17th time, you're just like, OK,
Starting point is 00:08:22 I do actually have a shred of memory for what color. Here's a chart with all the characters' eyes, just in case you forgot. I love that though. Yeah. The copper flecks, that's the hope. That's the hope coming forth. Yeah, I think there's something about like,
Starting point is 00:08:34 I guess like I thought of that because it's like I picture you wearing all this iron, but then like your eyes almost being different than it. Yeah. Like the ever so slightly, like a different metal. Yeah, just a little bit different. Yeah, that's rad. Okay, now we have a question for the full carnal crew.
Starting point is 00:08:48 This is a carnal cue. Wow. Zach T. writes, I believe you all said that you were planning on continuing to do some shorter arcs like this great season one of Skulldove, thank you very much, instead of any long campaigns for the immediate future. If that's the case, are we maybe going to see
Starting point is 00:09:04 some more Trinneville perhaps in the near future? So I guess this is a question for everybody, but maybe specifically Caldwell. Yes. I think we can, I think we can spill the beans right here. Yes. The spill the blood soaked beans because the next arc is going to be the Trinitvale triplets in Curse of Strahd. Yes! Curse of Strahd. It is so fun to finally share that. I've been laughing forever about when Caldwell came to us and was like, I just had this idea that Trinitvale in Strahd. And I just was like, it's just perfect.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It's so funny to be like, let me take the worst characters and put them in the most serious setting. And I think we're going to de-level us, right? Like, there'll be some kind of in-universe reason for us being de-leveled, which will be so funny to be low status again. Which also has to happen for Nyak. I reread my champion ranger thing.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I was like, my god. I'm taking that away. Someone asked us in the Q&A thing, they're like, what class haven't you played yet that you'd like to play? And I was like, oh, none of us has played a ranger, I thought, as Jake has famously played a ranger. And then I literally wrote,
Starting point is 00:10:14 I guess none of us has played a ranger, except for Nyack that is completely broken by jam homebrew LOL. I have so many jam points. It's an insane amount of points. You can pay to make people fail their saves, right? Yeah, yeah. Just use one extra jam point.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And I use a jam point to make somebody roll. And if they pass, I can use another point and make them fail. Yeah, insane. I can cast haste. Jake, could you really quickly tell me some of your other favorite parts about the subclass? No.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I can just cross them off my list. And I'm not going to tell you about my dark wing bow that you gave me. It was definitely, Rangers are worse, but it was also like rewarding the kid that doesn't do his homework. Because me and Emily specifically picked classes that are like, these classes fucking rock.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. Just Hexblade and then Bladesinger? Not Bladesinger. Yeah. Sword Bard. College of Swords Bard. Yeah. Just Hexblade and then Bladesinger, not Bladesinger. Yeah. Oh, Sword Bard. College of Swords Bard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Do you think you're gonna stick with those subclasses? Oh, that's interesting. I think I am. I looked around and I was trying to think of things that could happen that Onyx would be swaying in a different direction, but I was like, someone had asked, oh, how much does your class influence your character? And I was thinking about how Onyx,
Starting point is 00:11:29 I ended up making her really easily manipulatable, almost because she had this weapon that was talking to her. So then it became funny to just be easily manipulated. So then I was looking for something and none of them really felt right because I still come back to she had an evil weapon that was just manipulating her. Yeah, and then when we did the Moonstone mini-arc,
Starting point is 00:11:53 you also got a separate weapon that was manipulating people. And I love it. That's what I love to do as Onyx, just be like, yeah. Well, you're about to go to a land full of unknown dark forces. I know. I know. What about you guys? Has anyone thought of reclassing?
Starting point is 00:12:08 I haven't thought of it yet. I mean, College of Swords is just super, super fun. But maybe I'll think of something that has more. It's too fun. Yeah, maybe I'll do something that involves disguises or something. But I don't know. The thing is, is that like bars?
Starting point is 00:12:21 I could see Jen's having a little bit of a disguise, more of a disguise, more of a costume change. Yeah, College of Glamour. Yeah. That's interesting. I feel like we would get dressed up for a new adventure. Like most likely.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Isn't there also College of Eloquence or something like that? Because I can see Jen's being like, I'm the face of the team. Yes, yes. You know? I will say, yeah. I will say, Kirstive Strut is much more social than you might expect.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah, really. There is a lot of encounters and random encounters with werewolves and whatnot, but I think a lot of it is kind of like convincing people to help you out. Oh boy. That's so funny. We're gonna die.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I wanna fail all of that. I do kind of wanna make Nyack do an emo thing, like a Tobey Maguire Spider-Man. Like I'm gonna dye my mullet black and be a gloom stalker ranger. Yes, you should do that one. You should just, yeah, Nyack 100% should change his subclass. You'll have more fun with that.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah. Do you think it's gonna be that Nyack, because of where he's at, he's in an emo phase, or are we gonna arrive and Nyack is just gonna be affected by the surroundings? Yeah, I feel like he's so impressionable that he'll see Jen's putting on eyeshadow and he'll just dye his hair jet black to kind of like, oh, the black. This is perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:37 You take all your jam and you put it in your hair and just gel it back. Also, the jam is coming. I just realized that it's actually gonna be kind of strange for Anax. I couldn't even give her a goth face because she's already a pastel goth. Yes, that's right. And I'm not letting go of the pastel. You can't.
Starting point is 00:13:53 The tough thing about changing subclasses is that D&D is so combat focused. I think it's really fun, so I mostly do want to do combat. The more social classes of Bard and stuff like that, it's like with College of Swords, as a Bard, I still have expertise in stuff, I still have proficiencies in persuasion and things like that. So it's like, do I really need more than a plus 12
Starting point is 00:14:17 to persuasion or something like that? I think I'd rather be able to attack a million times. I don't know what the College of Eloquence gets other than great persuasion. Are you good with tools? Maybe you're really good at playing dragon chess or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's the thing is that Gens was already great at performance and everything. It just gives you everything that a bard has and then also stuff that a fighter has. It's just good. I should mention we're gonna de-level down to level three. So it is the perfect time to pick a new subclass if you want. Okay, wait. What if though, if I didn't have like a weapon or something
Starting point is 00:14:48 like that, like I could have like Jen's be my patron? What kind of warlock do you think I would be if Jen's was my patron? Just whoever the, like the fiend. Is it the fiend? Oh no, it'd be the great old one What is he 57 or something like that, I don't even remember how old Just materialize it but I'm gonna I will ponder if I should switch to Jens being my patron. I'm the only- Selling you a sword and being like, ah yes, your packed weapon, here it is.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Until Callie was revealed to be like 50 or something like that, I was the only person that played the fantasy species as being the age they're supposed to be, as Moonshine was famously 27 years old. Hey, hey, Boggy's between 20 and 50 years old. Hank was 41, right? Yeah, yeah. I actually played Wellie to be unexpectedly older
Starting point is 00:15:54 than you would think. Oh yeah. No, I guess I meant like 70s or 80s because there's like elves and dwarves and stuff in the lore lived to be like 300 or something. Yeah, so like a young elf would be 80. Yeah, a young elf would be like 50, 60, 70, 80. And you guys are always like, my elf is 25.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Actually. My elf's looking hot. It's a really good moonshine impression. I moonshine at 25. Young, dumb, and older than your grandpa. I moonshine fucking Saibin. I'm moonshine Saibin.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Okay, back to Skaldova, guys. Come on. Jeez, seriously. All right, here's another carnal cue question. Wait, I want a question for you. I want a Jake question. Okay, okay. What's Jake in?
Starting point is 00:16:40 People demand it. The Jake take. Okay, the Jake take. The Carpe Diem. See's the Drake. Oh! Wow, I thought that. That's what I was calling take. Okay, the Jake take. The Carpe Diem. Seize the Jake. Ooh! I thought that I was calling it. Seize the Jake.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Seize the Jake. That sucks. That's great, that's great. Carpe Diem, seize the Jake? I think he loses his question. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I actually think it's incredible. Hold on, you Hurwitz, 100% of the shots you don't take.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Carpe Diem is a great, that's just a great point. Carpe Diem was fine. You Hurwitz, 100% of the shots you don't take. Seize the is a great, that's just a great point. Carve DM was fine. 100% of the shots you don't take. But this is like nailing Grand Theft Autumn, but not getting the parentheses, where is your boy? Blair, the Bug Blair Bar Blarian says, Jake, I adored your turn as DM. I thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Despite it being your first, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to read this many compliments. We'll surprise you. No, I want it. They said that, yeah, they said it seemed to come naturally to me, which many compliments. What surprised you? No, I want it. They said that it seemed to come naturally to me, which I appreciate. What surprised you about DMing, and how do you think your experience will affect you
Starting point is 00:17:32 play your PCs going forward? Ooh, that's a good question. You'll read the Ranger subclasses? Yeah, for sure. I think the biggest surprise to me was just that like, the pacing was, I could never predict it. I could like feel really good about how much I had prepped, but then I would like 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:17:53 before we were about to record, I would like freak out and be like, oh, wait a second, I forgot this, this, and what if they do this? There's nothing for that. And then sometimes, and then like, you know, one session we would be, you know, 25 minutes in and I'd read a paragraph and a half of my prepared stuff. And I'm like, wow, we have so much.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But then other times we'd be 15 minutes in and I'd gone through a page and a half. So like, oh, the pacing would just always, always send me for a loop. But I think by the end I learned to not be as nervous because I felt like it always balanced out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You're stuck on like one thing for a really long time and then everyone in a row runs through the next three things. Yeah. Whoa. Holy shit. But I think it's probably too because like as a player, sometimes when you spend a lot of time somewhere, you're like, okay, I have to be well behaved
Starting point is 00:18:47 for a little bit. Yeah, and well behaved means rushing through everyone else. I don't give a shit what this NPC says. What does this other NPC say? Yeah, we've been mean to the teacher all week. Yeah. And then I think the thing that I learned, before this, since I had never prepped anything,
Starting point is 00:19:03 I never really knew how much work and how rich the rest of the world was. So I would always try to stay very on the rails as a player. I would be like, I don't wanna open any door or talk to random people, cause I'm just trying to like, I wanna be a little bit of a good student. But now I realized that somebody like Wellie,
Starting point is 00:19:24 you interacted with my world so much and I actually really appreciated it because you're like unturning stones of like things that I had prepared. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think I'm gonna lose the fear of like, well, I don't wanna ask so-and-so about this because what if they don't have it prepped
Starting point is 00:19:38 or what if they hadn't thought of it yet? Because one of the things that I hadn't thought of actually loved being asked because it just showed that you guys were like engaged and curious in the world. So I think it'll make me more curious as a player. And also like when someone interacts with something that like you weren't expecting, sometimes you're like, oh, maybe I'll reward this with a hint
Starting point is 00:19:57 that will pay off in three episodes. Yeah, totally. Like you have random stuff in your mind that you're like, well, I'm not gonna have one NPC say all of this, right? But there's other stuff. And then if someone interacts with something else, you're like, okay, actually, this is true.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I remember that with specifically, Murph playing a detective for Twilight Sanctorum, I got to give you guys so much more stuff just because like Murph already incredible at interacting with the world and playing a detective. It was like so easy to just slip little things in because you were interacting. Right. Oh yeah. I didn't even think about how high investigation is like fun and also hard to DM for where you're like, oh god. It was good. It was helpful for me. I found it helpful
Starting point is 00:20:41 because like you got like some like nat 20s that I was like, great, I can actually that is true. It's actually more often that people miss stuff where you're like, fuck, I really want them to be able to get to this next thing. It's like interesting. And I want the character to be cool if the characters knew this or something, and then they miss it. And you're like, I think that was a that was a piece of advice that I got to there's like, don't ask for perception if you need them to find something. Because everyone can roll an eight and I'm like, huh, all right. Yeah, with the eight you see the griffin swoop down anyway, because you had to fight this fucking griffin
Starting point is 00:21:14 because that's actually what I planned. Yeah. It's in the stick. I do think though. It claws you in the head, so I guess you would see it, huh? I do think though you can kind of save your ass. So if you accidentally do that, you can kind of save your ass. So if you accidentally do that,
Starting point is 00:21:26 you can kind of save your ass by like, if they get low, then they kind of like perceive it a little bit wrong, right? Yeah, you can do that. You don't perceive the most important part of it. You can't ever have it so that they completely miss something that you need them to see. So like in that case, if it was like, you're gonna have a Griffin swoop down.
Starting point is 00:21:43 But they might think it's just a really weird eagle. Yeah, or they might just like, it might just close in on them before they get ready and then it gets a surprise attack on them. And then you roll initiative or something like that. But yeah. I'll always raise the spin it. I've definitely had that happen a lot of times where it's just like investigate the room
Starting point is 00:21:59 or something like that. I rolled a one, I rolled a one. It's just like, well, I mean, you'd still see that there was a paper on the desk. Like, yeah, you know, you're looking. Someone has to take this letter, unfortunately. Yeah. You might not find like the secret thing under the desk,
Starting point is 00:22:12 but surely you see that there's like, you know, someone just died here or something. You see the dead body at the desk. Yeah. Well, you can't miss the body. Off of that, yeah, I really liked how, I mean, I feel like Faye was like totally invented just because Emily asked like the right questions at the right moment. Entirely, I mean, there was, Darwin did not,
Starting point is 00:22:28 in my prep, had no friends down in the dungeon. Emily asked, you're like, Oh, I didn't know that. Who did you leave behind? I think he said a line that was like, my brothers and sisters, and you're like, did you have someone you were close with? And I was like, oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yeah, he definitely would. Yeah think he said a line that was like, my brothers and sisters, and you're like, did you have someone you were close with? And I was like, oh, yes. Yeah, I was like, he would, he definitely would. Yeah. But then, well, having a crush on Faye is from Jake being like, she has a crooked smile. Yeah. And then that's when you click the fingers
Starting point is 00:22:58 and brush the eyebrows into place and get to work. That's the back and forth. D&D is all about walking around saying, who can I fuck? Yeah. All right, now we've got one for the whole carnal crew. Who? The carnal Q. Ella writes, how did you find playing in a low magic campaign when much of D&D
Starting point is 00:23:14 tends towards the magical? Did you ever feel frustrated slash unsure about characters' choices and encounters with this limitation in place? I actually loved it. Prefer it. I loved it. Well, the new fighter, the 2024 fighter was so fun
Starting point is 00:23:29 that it felt like we had so much in our toolkits. Also the different subclasses and everything. I really loved the launch ability and everything like that. I do, I mean, obviously I love high magic campaigns because we've done a ton of them and everything, but I do like at this this point, giving ourselves limitations honestly kind of opens us up to more unique stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And to just be like, giving us access to everything just means we're just going to grab all the best stuff. We're just going to be like, cool, yeah, Counterspell, Misty Step, Sheil, right? Yeah, I was going to say, I think it especially worked because we were all low magic, so when there was a problem, it wasn't like we all turned to the magic user. It was like, okay, let's figure this out.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yeah, there is kind of an objective. You could probably pick like 10 spells and be like, every wizard uses these spells. Exactly. Yeah. And whereas if we're all fighters or for all different subclasses, then in that case, we all have like a special ability or something
Starting point is 00:24:25 that we bring to the table that feels different. It felt nice like having all of the magic in the world be directed at us for the most part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anytime there's magic, it's being fired at us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we did still have like access to magic and like that feeling of,
Starting point is 00:24:40 oh, it's fun to get swept up in it. But we got to be very tactical, and I liked using fighter responses to things. It did make the magic moment very special. Getting the ensorcelled bow, and you said that it had the golden string on it, that really hit. Right, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And I remember wanting to take magic away because I was like, oh man, these guys are too good. They're gonna fuck with me and ruin everything with their magic. And then there was no magic and you guys still did that. Oh yeah, because we all have action search. Yeah, it turns out it was never about the magic. It's just about like, you guys are very good at D&D. It was fun though that like we all had, because we were all fighters, it was like, we're all going to benefit from a short rest. We're all like, almost like tactically, we were all kind of on the same page of like a short rest
Starting point is 00:25:29 right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah, you got to invade our campsite, man. All right. This is a question for Emily asked and ham damstered. It's actually thematically similar. Nathan M. writes, out of the plethora of characters you've created and played, which have been the most satisfying to play narratively and which have been the most fun mechanically? I think that's so hard because I feel like I have I tend to have like recency bias, either from a bad memory or just because I
Starting point is 00:25:59 don't know. Yeah, that's what we've been doing this for. I mean, seven years. I think it's just like whatever one I've most recently played or I'm actively playing I'm usually feeling like Incredibly Stimulated I mean mechanically would probably be on X or Cali right those are like the most like powerful I would be oh was so fun. Oh true true true
Starting point is 00:26:19 I love like via mechanics where I guess it's my only time playing a wizard I would say yeah I was gonna say fear cuz because you did so many fun things with very simple spells. All of the Tenzer's Floating Discs stuff you did. Tenzer's Floating Discs, that's coming to me too. Yeah, something about a lot of wizard spells,
Starting point is 00:26:34 you can get really creative with them, rather than just, yeah, so Fia was really great. Oh, also Taric and Snakeroot did some really fun stuff. I remember it's the sigil spell maybe, or there's one spell where you can basically implant a glyph and put a spell inside that. You did some insane shit with that, I recall. That was very fun.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Did I have that as Tarragon? I know that she was a peace cleric, and there was something that I could buff up my party so much. It was so powerful. I do kind of like, there's a recurring theme of we like these oops all one class. Yeah. And it makes sense because it is.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, because you get to really like highlight the subclass. It is part of the world building too, is it makes sense that there would be more adventuring parties that would be like, well, it is these group of knights that all, you know, hung out together. Of course they would all be the same class. Yeah. That makes sense. It probably makes less sense that like a wizard
Starting point is 00:27:26 would hang out with a fighter and a rogue or whatever. It'd be like, it's kind of cool to like give them little elements like for flavor to differentiate them. But yeah. Yeah, I feel like with three fighters, there is like almost like a stamina issue, not an issue, but like we can just go for so long, so powerfully.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, that I feel like that party is like built for dungeon delving. And like, which is kind of why Skull Dove was like the perfect run for it. Cause like we were just like power through. You did Skull Dove in like three or four days, right? I do, I am definitely like, I have been loving playing a fighter amidst fighters though.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So I am kind of like really eager to level up because I thought I was like, oh, would Wellie take any level of cleric or anything magical? So I am kind of like really eager to level up because I thought I was like, oh, would Wellie take any level of cleric or anything magical? And I was like, I actually don't think I want to be a magic user. I think I wanna be a fighter who,
Starting point is 00:28:15 like I don't think that Wellie's idea is like, I wanna feel magic coming from my fingertips. She's like, I want to be absorbed by magic. And be one with it. You know? You were like a knight. You were like, I wanna fight be absorbed by magic. And be one with it. Yeah, you're like a knight. You're like, I wanna fight for magic. Yeah, exactly. I wanna give my oath to magic.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah, exactly, yeah. That's very sick. I didn't even think about multiclassing. I think we're all just so excited to get our second attack, but I don't think it's gonna be. I know. Yeah, I'm just saying. That's one of the questions I was gonna ask you guys about.
Starting point is 00:28:40 It is about multiclassing. So it sounds like the answer is maybe no. Is everybody just gonna take? No, I think not. Because especially with like Steelhawk and stuff, which is my multiclassing, so it sounds like the answer is maybe no, is everybody just gonna take? No, I think not, cause especially with like Steelhawk and stuff, which is my subclasses, I wanna find out like what I get. Yeah. Yeah. Also like my subclass, the first time I saw it
Starting point is 00:28:55 was when I DM'd for the first time for the Solstice. It's the Rune Knight, Caldwell played a Rune Knight. Oh yeah. And I was like, oh, this is a really sick subclass. And then getting into it, I'm like, this is awesome. Like there's no better feeling than that Cloud Rune where you redirect an attack. It's so sick.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah. It's awesome. Dude, that thing, I don't know how I forgot about it. Like literally every single time. And you fuck with me with it a lot. But I always forgot. You gotta write a Post-it note, man. Yeah, dude. I mean, the new fighter,
Starting point is 00:29:28 it made me excited to play a fighter again. I know it's a joke and I always play a fighter, but now I'm like, no, I'm like, I'm doing it. I get it now though. And also just like action surge is like the best feeling. That's great. Hey there, NAD Polls. This episode is brought to you by NetSuite.
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Starting point is 00:31:53 at squarespace.com slash P-A-W-P-A-W. Goodbye, sweeties. Yeah. It's just great. I was thinking that like in the world of Skull Dove, because I think currently the subclasses for the 2024 fighter, it's just great. I was thinking that in the world of Scaldova, because I think currently the subclasses for the 2024 fighter, it's pretty limited. It's like battle master, champion, and I think weirdly purple dragon knight.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Oh yeah, purple dragon knights are cool. Which I feel like would make sense in Scaldova, because I know that Cicada is a black dragon, or maybe he's just black because of the- I think he's green. Oh, is he a green dragon? I actually didn't really think, I think it was, I guess green. It was, Cicada's body had decomposed and made the,
Starting point is 00:32:29 and made like the pool black. But I didn't really imagine- Yeah, check the tape, check the tape. I think he was ironically green. Unless it's just in my head. I think I remember him being green as well. Check the tape. Check the tape.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But just, you know, rotting into- But anyway, there's definitely a purple dragon out there somewhere. So you could, for sure. If you wanted to switch subclasses, you could be a purple dragon. Yeah, that's cool. There's a, yeah, the steelhawk thing is really cool. I'm looking at it now.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Level seven, you get steel grace with starting at level seven, wearing armor doesn't impose a disadvantage on your dexterity, AKA stealth checks. And when you make dexterity saving throws, you can use your launch feature as a reaction. And when you do so, you take no damage if you succeed or half if you fail. Which is really neat. That's really cool. And it's also like visually, uh, or I guess, uh, creatively interesting in
Starting point is 00:33:17 your, in the theater of the mind of thinking of like about to fall into a fissure or something during an earthquake. And then you just like shove your lance down and jump up. Yeah. It's also very fun because we've been making fun of your stealth so much because of how clanky you are. Shut up. You just learn how to tiptoe.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. I mean, the arc of Zujik learning to be subtle. The tiniest little creaks. Ear, ear, ear. Zujik learning how to trust and stealth. Just oiling his armor. Ha, oiling his armor and his friendship. Also for narrative stuff, we have to shout out Cinnamon,
Starting point is 00:33:54 which I think is probably one of your best narrative characters. Oh man, so good. I do wish to return to Cinnamon, my complicated old man. I feel like there's so many cool pathfinder modules and whatnot. It'd be fun to try and run another one. It made me laugh so hard.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I would say that one in the macro was the most satisfying to find out that he was an iconic character. And I didn't realize that. And I improvised the weirdest man. It's just like taking Xanathar or something and just making him a- With a ton of facts about the spice trade. What's up?
Starting point is 00:34:29 This is my take on James Bond. Which is funny because it's much less controversial than my character who is just super annoying because of his voice. And my character had to have the same voice. Now back to me, it's time to seize the J, everybody. Wow. Cooper McRory writes, question for the DM, Jake, if you had to insert one of the Nad Pod Extended
Starting point is 00:34:57 Universe characters, i.e. the Grinch, Austin Powers, the yellow M&M, into Skaldova, which do you think you could include without completely ruining the story? Okay, will you give us one second for us to get, you have an answer, right? Cause I thought of it, yeah, I thought of it. I want us all, let's go around the horn and I'll close.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Let's go around the horn. Let's guess what you're gonna say before you say it. Okay, so the Grinch, no, right? No, I was gonna say yes. Oh, I was gonna say Grinch in a cave? Okay. Can you give me like a hairy barbarian monster with like dyed green fur?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Okay, so the Grinch, I'll say is a five out of 10. As a possibility. Boomer Poo, no. Not a chance. Boomer Poo really doesn't. Maybe. Zero out of 10? Gen X Stitch, no.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Gen X Stitch, no, I'll say if Boomer Poo's a one out of 10, Gen X Stitch is a. Gen X Stitch, no, I'll say if Boomer Poo's a one out of 10, Gen X Stitch is a three out of 10, because Skull Diva does have Gen X energy by being sad. Yeah, Dr. Evil's too high tech for Skull Diva. He could be a scholar though. He could be, we'll give him a two out of 10. Yeah, but he would have to be so refavored that it would be unrecognizable.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Wait, Gen X Stitch though, okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna fight for Gen X Stitch. Make the case for Gen X Stitch. I'm gonna make a case,, Gen X Stitch though, okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fight for Gen X Stitch. Make the case for Gen X Stitch. I'm gonna make a case. Because Gen X Stitch is, he's sad because he's Gen X. All right, he's jaded because he's Gen X. Very skull-dove, very Zudrick. And then Black Lace, he's Little Monster.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh. Okay. Okay, yeah, all right. I'll make him before it then. I'm convinced, I think it's Gen, is the answer Gen X Stitch? It was Crash Bandicoot. What?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Okay. Okay. What? Spoken like a man who has not played Crash Bandicoot. I have not played, but in our universe, Crash Bandicoot is just a guy that is just an insane beast that tries to kill you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And he follows you to the end of the earth and he tries to, yeah. He shows up to kick your ass one random night a year? I don't remember what the exact is. I could imagine a feral beast charging out of the woods, all claws and teeth, barking at you, chasing you into a field, nowhere to hide, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's kind of like this Crash Bandicoot that I see. Okay, I love it actually. I love it. That would be like one animal that Wellie would have to talk herself down from trying to befriend. I can't wait for like, whatever our holiday special is where the Scaldova crew meets Crash Bandicoot.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Okay, here's a fun question. This one's from Gustos, it's a carnal cue. What is your most and least comfortable voice to do for a character or NPC? Oh. Oh, I'm very self-conscious about doing men because I'm very aware of the limitation of the lower register of my voice.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Oh. Sometimes I see online, like when I do a gravelly voice, people are like, oh, your vocal cords, like, how do you do it? Like that's very easy for me. That's like my comfort zone, a gravel. Yeah. The thing that gets me out of my comfort zone
Starting point is 00:37:52 is if I ever have to do an accent, then I get- Certainly. Literally any accent. That's why I have that. You remember Zudrick was originally supposed to be French? Oh, right. It would have never worked. It would have never worked in retrospect.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I actually love where he landed. I love where he landed, but he would be a very different character. I think he's more serious. Yeah, probably. It would have ended up being great because it just would have been a completely different journey,
Starting point is 00:38:15 but it's hard to imagine. I would have been, the reason I didn't do it is because I was working on it, and if I was concentrating really hard, I could pull it off, but that's just not a place to improvise from. No, that's true. Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I can say the hardest one that I lost, I can't do it anymore, is Scoutmaster Denny. Whoa. Oh, because it's so high? Because it's too high. It's just super high pitched. And I think that maybe- He's like Mickey Mouse.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I think that six or seven years ago, maybe I wasn't talking as much for my job. I think I've just like ruined my voice a little bit by doing like Pendergreens and shit for all the like, just being like this, like talking like a moron, you know, as Zundrick or Pendergreens or whatever has now made it hard to do. Hey gang. Yeah, I can't even like this. That's not even his voice. Yeah, that's kind of why you did like Crudbird is like the, Crudbird is like the alternate Scott Master Denny
Starting point is 00:39:06 where it's a high missed the gravelly. That's true. Yeah, I can do this. I just kind of like. I feel you on that though, because like, I remember when we were doing like the Metal City Mayhem two shot and had to do tails a lot. Like that's our, doing like childlike voices is very tough.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Cause you have to go like really high up here. Yeah, that's pretty damn good. That's pretty impressive. Thank you. But I mean, I don't want to play with that character, but that is good. Oh, come on. No, I hate him.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I kicked Caldwell in real life. I kicked Caldwell. Yeah, can't do, can't do Scout Master Denny anymore. I don't know why. Whoa, I didn't even know that. Yeah, RIP, he's gone. He's dead, I guess. I mean, I guess he is dead, right?
Starting point is 00:39:47 Campaign three, he's dead. 200 years, yeah. No, he's definitely, he's definitely like a high-sleep chamber. Anyone could do it. But if he survived though, he might be a different person now. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He might be world-weirier. He could have picked up smoking. Wow, oh wow, that's great. Your voice that you just did will work for him now. Hey gang. Sorry. Oh, Denny. I vaped too much. Sorry, it was hiding.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It was like a really bad vape that messed up my vocal cords. Okay, let's go back to the carnal cue. We've got two more questions. This one is from Chip. I'm carnal quivering. Which one of Boggy's buds would you each want to play in a one-shot? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I mean, amazing. Well, now that I know they have classes. Yeah. I mean, probably grandpa crunchums. Grandpa crunchums. Yeah. The rogue. There's something about, I feel like I have met
Starting point is 00:40:36 so many friends who are young people who refer to themselves as Papa or Grandpa. So it's like, I feel like I'm already there. I get it, I see it. I think I'm going to go the opposite direction and say, Flute Boy, because I love the idea of playing a character with a very fantastical nickname that's just a real grouchy old man. Actually playing the flute longer and you can take a shit, kid.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Playing Cinnamon and playing an old man was like, I would like to play a lot more old men. Yeah, they do love playing old men. I think for me, my first instinct is Dandio Candles, because I kind of picture him as like an artificer. That's who I wanted. Oh, you can have him, because he's a good one. He has the best name.
Starting point is 00:41:20 He has the best name. I picture him literally having like a burning candle like melting on his head sometimes. Yeah. He's working late. Yeah, because he also, yeah, he has all these cool inventions. Uh-huh. Quote, cool inventions. An arrow with a boxing glove on it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Yeah. He's wily coyote-ous, actually. Murph, I kind of pictured Sister Bix as a cleric of the same class as Mac. Oh, interesting. That like, cobalt press like a brewery. Yeah. I think she'd be fun to play.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Also, I think it's gotta be Longus Tom though. Cause I love like just a serious character with a short fuse who gets like really wacky when he like loses his temper. Seems very fun to play. And I picture him being like maybe like a monk or something like that. So I'm very familiar with that class.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It'd be fun to play dip into that again. Yeah. Longest Tom might be my favorite name because of my love for Tom DeLong. Sure. Maybe he's a bard, shit. Oh wow, do you think it's Tom DeLong? Can I, maybe that's who I wanna play now.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, I give you full permission to go in the Tom DeLong direction. Can I give you one more, I remembered, I have a little bit of like backstory about Grandpa Crunchums that didn't come through. Okay, what is it? Oh my God, yes. So his real name is Mortimer Lunch.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Okay. Mortimer Lunch? Uh-huh. And he was the apprentice chef at a nobleman's keep. Whoa. And his master was executed for suspected poisoning. Whoa. And that was how he got mixed up with Boggy's crew
Starting point is 00:42:45 as he had to go on the run. He was a chef named Lunch, that's awesome. Does he still cook or is cooking? Yeah, I think he's like, I kinda pictured it, like his dexterous nature, this slight of hand was how he chops up all the veggies and stuff like that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He's really good at julienning things. Okay. Yeah. Wow. So I think he's like a rogue but also does all the prep cooking. All the prep cooking but not the cooking cooking because someone Okay. Yeah. Wow. So I think that he's like a rogue, but also like does all like the prep cooking. All the prep cooking, but not the cooking cooking because someone else does the actual cooking. Yes. I think that like Boggy is like the one
Starting point is 00:43:11 that's like stirring the pot. Yeah. Okay. Okay. While just going, oh. Very, I mean, that's really cute. Yeah. I feel like I want the next season of Skull Dove to start with a flashback with the Boggy's buds and you two. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And Murph and Emily are playing two of the buds. That's so good. All right, buy a little way. You just have a bud dice and you roll it to picture who you're gonna play. Our last question you guys have to indulge me. It comes from Izzy and Izzy writes, what is your favorite Skull Dove moment?
Starting point is 00:43:42 Ooh. Skull Dovement. Okay. Skull Dovement. I. Skull Dovement. I think off the top of my head, I mean, really just like dungeon crawling in general and like each room having different stuff in it was so exciting, but I think definitely the moment when Wellie found out
Starting point is 00:43:55 that she was descended from one of the knights of Princess Lennar. Yeah, that was very exciting. I loved, I mean, again, this is kind of recency bias because we literally just recorded this like a week or two ago, but the reveal that Boggy was fucking lying to us the whole time. Yeah. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I'm glad you like that. And I'm also like excited for the retrieval of some of the buds. I think that's a fun bud for the campaign. I mean, on a similar note, I really loved Zudrick's face reveal. Oh yeah, that was really cool too. Yeah, it was also, it just like fit the tone so perfectly where, I mean, I feel like if I was doing it,
Starting point is 00:44:35 I would have done something really fucking stupid where I'm just like, ah, he has horns, ah! Right. But like just the fact that it was like, just like a canvas of his past that we were finally allowed to see. It was just so perfect. And it like instantly colored the character in a way that like, you know, brought like sympathy and light to him.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And yeah, I loved that shit. Also the Ender's Waltz, like y'all had amazing. Oh yeah, that was such a sweet moment. Yeah, yeah. Lots of little moments of like hope and stuff from Wellie and everything that really touched me. I do like trying to trick, uh, Imelanda having to write music. Yeah, that was awesome. Well, that one I actually prompted.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, that's true. I was like, what's your favorite song? Oh, I have another one that was, uh, hard to remember because it's been months now, but the reveal of the carnal release. Oh my God. Oh yeah, cause I did it. I didn the carnal release. Oh my God. Yeah, cause I did it. I didn't tell Jake that. Oh yeah. I don't think I knew it.
Starting point is 00:45:30 No, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you had told me a bunch of stuff. You had told me like, I think I knew Wellie's backstory. So I think that's why it really made me laugh is I didn't know about the coming in the pants part. I only knew like, I knew you were like disgraced and we're like leaving all this stuff
Starting point is 00:45:47 I talked all this stuff through me. So as you're telling me the backstory, I'm like right this part I know about this. I know about this like in my head and she says that part It just fucking threw me I think I also like had the idea to do it and I was like, is it too far? And then I think I was like, let's just wait till the moment and find out if it is too far. And then I just went for it. I think that if you had said anything other than carnal release, it wouldn't have worked.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Most like, era appropriate term you could have used. Yeah, you just sold it so hard. It was so crass and yet not. I have a lot. I think for Boggy, the moment where you're in the hole and you drop the act and you just say, fuck shit. That was so insanely funny.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And it's such a great joke and also just instantly doubles Boggy's depth. It's like, that is kind of the hint that you followed through on at the very, very end. It was so poetic that I fell in a hole again. I'm so glad. Yeah. And then for Zudrick, I just, I love,
Starting point is 00:46:48 I think it was episode four when you guys like finally get into the castle and you're just, and like Zudrick comes alive, you're poking everything with the lance. That was like the piranhas. Yeah. And then for Wellie, I think I just like, I loved how much Emily like helped me me with with developing the world and the
Starting point is 00:47:07 lore. Yeah, because like the entire thing was, I realized like, as I was writing it, that it was like my love letter to hope and like silver lining and optimism. And the character that Emily made is just like the exact right. Yeah, like the exact right tool to unearth all of that. And the fact that it like, it ended with Boggy coming clean with Zudrick standing up for somebody like there, you know, magic isn't back, but hope is still alive. I think that was really perfect. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Another, I guess it would be a rose for the like, we're not doing that. No, we're not. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I'll withdraw my
Starting point is 00:47:42 comment. No, a favorite part, a favorite part, if you will, was the sort of failed religion check at the end. I think it was episode 10, where we kind of had to make our own peace with the situation at hand. Lime nine. Kind of goes on what Jake is talking about. And also really, really cool encounters, Jake. I know we like, womped most of the monsters.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah, you did. I know we kind of rocked. I know we absolutely fucking rocked. I love it though, I love fighting like, animals and like, monstrosities and creatures. But you also did a great job of like, making the terrain always interesting. It wasn't just like, a lot of first time DMs
Starting point is 00:48:21 will just be like, you got this character, you got this character, they're just gonna beat the shit out of each other until one of them hits zero hit points. Like that's what I did at the beginning of campaign one. But you did a really good job of being like, even our first encounter was, okay, there's this aspect of the battlefield where like the land is getting ripped apart,
Starting point is 00:48:40 so you might fall on a hole or something like that. And even just that adds, you know, it makes it twice as much fun. Yeah, especially when you're doing theater of the mind. Yeah, totally. Thank you. Thanks dude. Yeah. My pine cone for the fire is,
Starting point is 00:48:53 which that's what we're calling it. Oh, okay. Is really just getting to like kind of, I don't know, write a little more with Jake. Like getting to text back and forth about boggy stuff was, it was really fun. It's like, I love that part of any DM relationship where you're just like, you text your DM an idea
Starting point is 00:49:08 and you get to like go back and forth a little bit on it. That's the rules. It was good getting to like invite Jake into the circle as it were. Yeah, thanks for finally texting me back. Yeah, I never, I never text Jake ever. So it was nice to get to do it once. Sweet, thank you all so much for listening.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Over on our Patreon, we will have When Did Things Come Out? The game show that is sort of... If you've been waiting to subscribe, today's the day. Yeah, today is absolutely the day. This one's for all the history buffs out there. Yeah, this one's for all the history buffs. Not really.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Come on, wait, let's play one quick round right now with the Fall Out Boy. Wait, okay, okay. My guess is 2005. I think that's play. Let's play one quick round right now with with the fallout boy My guess is 2005 okay, that's when that album came out take this to your grave No, I'll say 2006. I'll say 2004 cuz it was the single. I think it's 2003. Okay, Jake is for sure wrong I'll look it up right now. Okay, when did fallout boy release? show theft autumn No way takes right 2003 Did Fallout Boy release Grand Theft Autumn? No way! Jake's right.
Starting point is 00:50:08 2003, Jake is right! Dude, fuck me! I fucking remember me and Eddie Bird in my sob right from the summer of junior year. So fuck me! Am I Zudrickrick cuz I gotta eat crow Although he would never eat a crow so my the anti-zudrick right your Zudrick's enemy Wow Buggy's eat a lot of crows and he's had to stop sort of an interesting look into like how quick we
Starting point is 00:50:38 Consume media now verse back then because I have a distinct memory you don't have to make a fallout boy Really hitting I remember them being on the cover of alternative press magazine because I have a distinct memory. You don't have to make this poetic. A fallout boy really hitting, I remember them being on the cover of Alternative Press Magazine in 2005. This doesn't need to be poignant. Just take your massive L. Shut the fuck up, everyone. This was a huge L.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I was so confident. I was so confident that Jake was the most wrong. Jake is for sure wrong. Jake is tape on that. For sure wrong. Munch your crow, dude. Back in the day, we used to just be able to be confidently wrong about stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Anyway, more of this. This is what the show is. Over on patreon.com slash nadpod, that's N-E-D-D-P-O-D, don't sing yet. Whee! Does anyone have anything they'd like to plug? Yes, I would like to plug. Kendra Wells has a Kickstarter for the sequel
Starting point is 00:51:25 to one of their graphic novels. This one is called Real Hero Shit, Harder Than It Looks. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, did Kendra do some art for Dimension 20? Is that where I know them? Kendra who did all of the art, all of the characters for Unsleeping City. Oh!
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah. I love that art. Super sick, go Kendra. Go Kendra. I would like to shout out some PO Box stuff that we got recently, if that's all right. Number one, congrats to the grads. Can I say it? Oh yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Can I say it? Congrats to the grads. Congrats. We've been grads. We get a lot of graduation announcements into the PO Box and it always warms my heart. It warms my heart to see it. Enjoy your summers.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Pop that Fallout Boy CD into your Saab 900 S. Yeah. 2003. Fuck! And cruise down the CT-15. God. Ready? I also would like to shout out, let's see,
Starting point is 00:52:13 oh, Cass sent us drawings they did of the Colonel Crew from Scaldova. And some Magic the Gathering tokens they drew as well. So I'll send those along to you too. To Murph and Emily. Yes, please do. Ian and Anastasia H sent us croc gibbits, including actual rock croc gibbits.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Which I thought was very fun. They basically glued some rocks to gibbits. Oh, yes. My two favorite things. Rocks and crocs. Kelly D sent us flavored Kit Kats and souvenirs from their trip to Japan. Cool.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Murph and Emily will not be seeing any of those because I've eaten most of them already. Let's see, oh, Adam M, speaking of rocks, this has been a very rock themed campaign. Adam M sent us each rocks styled to our personalities. Let's see, Emily got colorful rocks and test pieces of jewelry. Jake got rocks referenced in Scaldova.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I got rocks with character. And Murph, of course, got some of Adam's favorite rocks since he's not much of an outdoors guy. Thanks so much for all of the stuff. We get like too much stuff to shout out. I like to highlight some things, but please keep sending us stuff. It's very fun. Again, thanks so much to everyone that submitted. Sweet. And Jake, your sub stack. Oh yeah, my sub stack. Check it out. It's substack.com slash at jaker
Starting point is 00:53:29 with subscribe to Emily's while you're there. Yeah, I know. I haven't posted anything yet. I'm waiting to restack whatever your first post. Really? Yeah, dude. I followed two people, you and my mom. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Somebody followed me on sub stack because I started one so that I could follow people. So I'm not posting anything right now, but thank you for the follow. I'll read Ms before she hits post, but other than that, I'm just not gonna be involved, I think. But you have to listen to it too.
Starting point is 00:53:57 It's a song. Oh yeah, well of course I'll have already listened to it. Actually you've already heard this song. You've already heard this song. There you go. With that, you can follow us on social media that we're remembering at use at Seige vs. Me at Call of These Call of Dolls, at Astrodemilion, at Jake or it's Jake and you can talk about the show online using hashtag NADPOD.
Starting point is 00:54:13 That's NADDPOD. Where are we? Tonight, I hope is a gentleman. 2003. It's the end of the show, everybody, 2003? Yeah! Danielle de Dastardly-Dame, Carpe Liam, Victor T. aka Balnor's Boy, Hoyd's friend, Justin I, Danny Danster, TJM, Tralee the Cray, Christopher B, Damiel R, Jordan L. cyborg version of Josh the Cobald, Targot, Stevie Wags, Hellish Rebuke, The NBDM PhD, Princess Yar, Jory S, Jack L, and Nicholas C, star of every film ever made in Bohemia, Mike H, Alka Smeltzer Plus, Great Value Gemma, Tyler F, Carbro Chapel Hill FPV, Cici Lulu, Old Cobbs Dunkle, Older Burn, Hercuel Poirot, the rabbit folk detective. Timmy R. Jake's Jerk Jelly, hashtag CCC.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Taylor B, the vengeful one-winged angel. Cass Strong Grinch. Steven, shout out to Bowie the Troll C. Mike K. Nick W. William W. Big Bad Beardo the Mad. Ananarama.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Percival Fredrickstein. Von Musel Klozowski de Rolo III, J. Dragonborn, Guardian of the Vibe, Honoring the Cock, This Isn't Even My Final Form, Ben A, Dave H, Not That Nick, Danny F, Hawkeye Pierce, Bookfart's Assistant Issy F, Big Bad John, DPC is Awesome, Sean, The Shade Tree Mechanic of Zelbaldar. Summer Rose, AKA Grand Tare. Mark, the Dark Lord's taint. Kat C. Misa of House and Zunza.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Ariel, the occasional mermaid. Selena N, AKA Valay C. Raptor. B. Perky, always. Pat L. Lauren H. Serv 16. Annie, the Feywild therapist. Pierogi Frenzy.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Conner S. Celille. Bioquart 7. Amber Dextress. Serv 16, Annie the Feywild Therapist, Pierogi Frenzy, Connor S, Salil, Bioquart 7, Amberdextress, Bean Rat Was Innocent, Trub Hopdropper, Jack H, King of the Mole People under Iron Deep, dressed in blue and fighting his way through a bracket-style tournament. Valen, Podge, the Bitchin' Bunny Bard,
Starting point is 00:56:41 Druidic Peyton, Carlin C, Noah the Bullywug Boy, hashtag Honor the Cockin bunny bard, Druidic Peyton, Carlin C, Noah the Bullywug boy, hashtag honor the cock, James G, Everything Bago, the Aladdin who just wants to hang out with his pet badger Stripey, Reverend Chatterbones,
Starting point is 00:56:54 Han, Eric B, Marco's PhD student, like a wizard artificer IRL, learns the balance druid, Frida M, Maggie, Holly the green laughing hyena Cal and her cats Portland star and Berlin
Starting point is 00:57:10 Aaron B Russell H a monk named Dilgo. Yes the whole thing. Yes every time Cody C Lorelai the succubi and Kyra the succulent snack McKenna stout your friendly neighborhood yawnunt and yunkle Andrew and Sid, John Adams, we can be done with the presidential puns, Meg, the mail carrier of Bohemia, James F, Austin S, Wayfarer, now has to do something with the trolls, get rid of them, turn to page 42, keep them, turn to page 69, Oreo, Shane C, Barpo Goodbarrel, Bard Barian, Garrett G, aka OneBigCd, Charlie Brown's Best Friend, Renee the Monster Captain, Olivia the Enchanting Bard,
Starting point is 00:57:51 and Jared the Soap Opera Cleric. Want it known that the Roo in Naruto is pronounced with the same emphasis, and it gets cut off from there. I'm assuming you're just saying we pronounce Naruto wrong. It's Nah-roo-to? Sure. Blue Ash, FICO. Garrett the Artificer, Valkyrie, the Gert C. Brother, Anthony the Raddest of Dudes, J, The Fairies have returned to debauchery and must now go to the Carnal Corner, Cantrip
Starting point is 00:58:16 Dumbledore, the bare onesie wearing Barbarian, Lexi H, MJ, the BFG, Roger L, NoDrog, the Pass a Fist, Barbarian, Jean Luca, Leon K, Legendary Hero of Bohemia from a Future Campaign, Shenanigans O'Connor, Mios the Great, Joshua S, Alexander, Linz W, Sky the Wise, aka the Lone Dungeon Master, Johnny Dude K, the Mischief of NAD Pods Familiars, Pavu Eskinar, the Goliath Paladin providing service with a smile, Kit and Their Cat, Tim M, Tiles L, TR, MLG Cheeto, Shel B, Kenna's first favorite sprite girl, Happy Pride to Fia, Jen's Welly, Moonshine and Beverly, Papa says Rear Here, Rear Que queer. Jet S, Snailus who's infecting Worchester from within. A bone flute literally tells a story when played. Jarrett, the soap opera
Starting point is 00:59:12 cleric who wants to say hello to his wife Olivia the Enchanting Bard while she's at work. Hi, dear. Pawpaw Skydays, Memaw Skydays, Megan N, Anthony B, Savannah H, Balnor's best friend Steve, Stephanie of House and Zunza, Benjamin A, Gimli the Corgi, Papa and Foster's canine friend, Mikael A, Josh H, Pilot of the Nightmare Verse flight, The Two Crew Blew Through, Jennery, Kelsey A, Ethan the Mailman, Maple the Shy Bookworm, Ashesaurus, Billy Batson, Tory thesten dragus accidental share of recipes Michael L.S. the second Carl B plumber of the realm Dex Riddlewell Ace Dreggs High Lord of Critsburg Vin diagram Catamelius the Consumed Clinton P Cam the Frogman Dean Jake W says hi mom Tuesday Cross the interactive fiction designer Steve L, Tyler Mcm, Alex
Starting point is 01:00:07 G, Zibba Dabackery, Kaylee, Katarina C, Misty, the crispy kitty really hates flame skulls, Greg W, there's so many of us now but hey you're doing great and we love you, thanks Greg W, Baruk Thunderhelm, 5th generation Minotaur working as an abandoned labyrinth tour guide. Tupac Aubrey, Boney is dead. The Waterworth, Nick, Amy, Agus Kunari, Ignition Class Pedalstorm, Charlemagne, Not the God, DJ Dramamine, Auric Von Zarevich. And finally, my favorite patron makes me say penis on my show. What a great way to end it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Thank you all so much for listening. Thank you to all of our Patreon subscribers and of course our benevolent Council of Elders. You can listen to our after show over on our Patreon. We'll catch you all next time.

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