Not As We Planned - 14. He Asked Me If I Wanted to Be Spanked and Whipped

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

Let's talk about sex fetishes. The sexy, the dirty and the downright weird. Producer: Tristan Hehir City Lights by Ghostrifter Official | https://soundcloud.com/ghostrifter-officialMusic promoted by... https://www.free-stock-music.comCreative Commons / Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported (CC BY-ND 3.0)https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 So get comfy, grab a cup of tea. Or a glass of wine. And let's start talking about all the things too many of us avoid discussing. Hi, guys. Welcome back. And let's get cracking. You were saying that? I'm trying to get comfortable. I did's get cracking. Are you expecting that? I'm trying to get comfortable.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I did Pilates yesterday. Did you? Yeah. Former Pilates. No, it was like a stat, yeah, a stamina one though. And I'm really feeling it today. So I feel like I'm sitting like an absolute. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:01:18 That's actually on my list to do with things when Milo starts childcare. I'm going to start doing Pilates. Just, it was really fun. I enjoyed it. Trying to get a bit more, more you know fit for my holiday in a week and a half will that help classic so catch me up on this week anything worth reporting no nothing really but you've been away it's been away living vicariously through you my secret friend with the hairy arm i have yeah she needs to beat she needs to beat that girl she needs some laser yeah no literally last monday booked flights there were like 36 pound return flights to rodez which is where i month and my friend who I went with his mum his I mean I think his mum I think it's obvious it's a if any woman has a lot of arm okay so yeah his mum has a house out there so we went and stayed
Starting point is 00:02:18 and honestly like we just had the best time when am I coming chingley we'll book another day in we're having people know in flights honestly there's plenty of room I'm looking at flights We just had the best time. When am I coming? Chingley. We'll book another day in. We'll have a look. People know our flights, honestly. There's plenty of room. I'm looking at flights later. It's gorgeous. Literally gorgeous. Like, it's so nice.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It's funny as well, because obviously a few months ago, I remember being like, I hate leaving my kids. The worst part of it. And I was like, how do I do fun stuff like this? Like, one of the days, we were like on this little beach, which is like an island in the middle of them, a weir. And we were like sliding down the weir. And I was just thinking, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I mean, there's a weir. It's like running water. Oh, really? Like a mini waterfall kind of thing. Love that. And we were sliding down on our bums. It was amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm living my best life. I love it for you. Love it. Today's episode, I feel like, is going to be fun. Whenever we ask you, like, what you want us to talk about, I feel like there's a lot of people wanting to hear about sex. Let's talk about sex, baby. Let's talk about you and me.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah, so I'm all for it. I feel like some people maybe are a bit coy with it. I feel like some people maybe are a bit coy with it. I feel like we're not. I feel like I am more reserved about what I talk about in terms of my own. Yeah, I'm not going to be talking about it general. Yeah, I'm not going to sit here explaining my whole sex life. No, but I will talk about our behavior for ages. Our behavior for ages. Wow'll copy him for ages.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Wow. While I'm wearing a jumper. Okay, so we put out there, we wanted to hear like weird kinks, fetishes, sex stories. So I think we're going to like delve straight in and talk about some. Let's do some. I'm ready to hear them. When we've spoken about things before, some of you have got like the weirdest stories. I think we loved all like the weird dating stories.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So now we want the next one. And also this just makes you feel really normal sometimes. Okay, let's look for some. Slipped a disc while doing doggy with my friends downstairs and wearing sexy lingerie. Can you imagine? Oh, my God. Have you ever had a sex injury?
Starting point is 00:04:32 I haven't. I don't think I have. How disappointing. Put that on the to-do list. What? Sex to be so vigorous that I'm injured. Do you want a broken collarbone? This uncomfortable sitting isn't actually from Pilates.
Starting point is 00:04:47 No, I'm joking. Okay, what else do we have here? My friend had sex with a guy who wanted her to keep saying that she wasn't using contraception and to keep telling him how he may make her pregnant. That's a sweet exit. That's a swift exit that's me that's suddenly so not effective maybe it makes him feel like masculine like yeah i'm gonna impregnate you my sperm is so powerful maybe that's the guy on that date that was that was asking her about contraception before he was
Starting point is 00:05:20 gonna get her pregnant that That is so weird. That would actually terrify me. Would it? I don't like that. It would make me feel like if he was like the one responsible and like using a condom, he'd like pierce holes in it or something. I don't like that. Okay. Not realising milk letdown is triggered by the same hormones
Starting point is 00:05:41 that are released during postpartum after first baby ended up lactating all over my husband. I can imagine like Austin Powers, the fembot. Can I just ask, okay, this might be a really, really naive question, but I'm really intrigued by it because it's obviously reminded me from this. Obviously, if you're breastfeeding because i breastfed rome for a year and i know that obviously with the boys you breastfed for a long time if your partner sucks your nipple would milk just come out i presume so but that never happened to I'm just so intrigued by it like so I think it's like a certain
Starting point is 00:06:29 lateral pulling motion I don't know it's not something I've ever experienced neither started seeing someone that kept changing the light bulb
Starting point is 00:06:37 in his bedroom to a red one I can't think of it's like the red light district that's so I don't know ambience okay but why can't you just keep it red maybe he didn. That's so true. I don't know, ambiance?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Okay, but why can't you just keep it red? Maybe he didn't want his mum to know. I don't know. I don't know. The queefs are more frequent since two babies popped out and make me giggle. All hail the funny bucket. All hail the what? The funny?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Well, she's got a picture of a bucket. The bucket funny, sorry. Well, neither of us have had vaginal bath have we so i don't know obviously how things change down there but own it babe own it um do you want to can i quickly tell you a really funny joke i think i saw it on tiktok or someone sent it to me was not on my for you page because this sort of stuff does not come up on my For You page. But it was really funny. It was these guys on a podcast and they were talking about sex and they wanted men to share funny stories during sex.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And one time they were having sex with a girl. She kept going harder, harder. So he replied going tighter, tighter. Wow. It's the same thing. Like you could like, I don't know, I just thought it was really funny.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Wow. Yeah. Okay. One of our first times after the first baby. Is it in? It certainly was. Oh my God. i'm mortified
Starting point is 00:08:06 again we've not had vaginal baths i don't know i guess also it's like how long after yeah is it like a few months is it a few weeks yeah like things it takes time to contract back doesn't it yeah yeah that's pretty funny though. It's different. Maybe he was saying tighter, tighter. Okay, this is weird. During a one night stand, he asked if he could shave my... during sex.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So you can't say pussy. Say it properly. Pussy. I don't like saying words like that. Yeah, but you're not saying it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They said it. Okay, a night... a one night stand asking if he could shave my hoo-ha. I didn't let him off. I, um... I don't allow razors near my hoo-ha because I wax.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I'm not ruining the nice, soft waxing hair. Yeah, I'm actually booked in for laser. Oh, yeah. I had it years ago. Best thing I ever did actually. I think I'm too fast. No, I'm really fair. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:12 It worked really well on me. Oh. I really recommend anyone. I'll go and get my vagina lasered. Yeah. I'd love tips on keeping the sex life alive after kids think we've had it twice in two years i can't give any advice on this well no like looking back on hindsight i feel like to me anyway i know that the longer i went without sex the more i felt like i didn't need it i feel like
Starting point is 00:09:38 that's probably the case a lot with women obviously men i feel like the longer they go like i don't know if blue balls is like a myth or not but I feel like they need to like ejaculate women are not the same I feel like my libido definitely gets less and the longer I go without it so I feel like you need to make that effort I know it's so easy especially when you've got young kids or if they don't sleep or whatever the situation is it's really easy to be like can't be bothered like it's a bit of a chore but I feel like you need to remember that sex is such an important part of a relationship. Bring you guys together. Absolutely yeah and maybe don't start in the bedroom but start with the cuddle kisses the cuddles the holding hands the cuddling on the sofa but sometimes I think you do maybe just need to like rip the band-aid off go and get some sexy laundry make yourself feel good
Starting point is 00:10:30 and just dive in because I feel like the more you do it the more you eventually want it and remember like actually this is this is enjoyable but that's it I think I think more than anything like I know you sound really old school here but but it is about that connection with that person. I think it's almost like links a bit to what we were saying last week about being able to like nurture your relationship with your partner. Like I think as well, like you need your partner needs to have an understanding of how much, how least it's not just things like that is it's like your body image changes so much post baby and the last thing i remember sitting there with like giant lactating boobs the last thing you feel is sexy so in your head you're like i don't feel sexy why would anyone else buy me sexy i'm not gonna initiate anything because i feel like a
Starting point is 00:11:20 giant oath yeah um so i think it really needs to be like both parties the thing is as well again it's like that communication like you don't want to feel like your partner's putting loads of pressure on you to to do it early doors or when you're not quite ready but you need to have that honest communication about whether she said twice in two years so like she's not you know still sore yeah no i like this and the other so I just think that you've got as much responsibility as the man to maybe just be like you know what even if I'm not really feeling it I know it's going to help my relationship just just push yourself I I'm not saying like oh how bad that some people have to push themselves I think it's
Starting point is 00:12:03 so normal for mums to be like I'm tired I can't be bothered like I want to get in bed and I want to go to bed if you know that you're not going to have the energy to have sex when you go to bed do it once the kids have gone down before dinner or straight after dinner or you know on the sofa rather than waiting till you get to that point where you're like nah can't be bothered that's it almost like reflect as to why it's been twice in two years i mean like tasha i do think it's really normal um but like is it the tiredness is it you feel really disconnected you know maybe you actually need more like date nights and just like to reconnect romance back yeah because that's it like relationships take nurturing they take work and you know you've got to communicate with each other about how you're feeling like you are gonna
Starting point is 00:12:50 have this like having kids changes relationships massively yeah i like but it's really important that i don't know or even like if it's been twice in two years it could that also be he's not initiating it as much and maybe you need that from him like sometimes it's nice for to feel like wanted and like someone to try it on with you that makes you feel sexy maybe it's uh again it's the communication thing i think it's really important particularly with sex that you're able to communicate things that are important like your aids and your wants and you know i think that's really really it's like any part of a relationship you have to be able to tell the other person yeah and you know what
Starting point is 00:13:31 stemming from that I saw that someone actually wrote it and something that I really strongly believe in whether it's with a boyfriend or a long-term partner or anything it might be a bit awkward if you do this with a long-term partner because once you've kind of set this precedent then it's hard to get away from it by the way it's precedent the right one yeah that was good i think i'm pointing at you in admiration use the word right i'm so smart um i think the biggest mistake in the bedroom for a woman is faking an orgasm. Because although you want to maybe make your partner think that you've enjoyed it and you've finished and you're happy, they will then think that they've done the job and they won't ever need to change anything. ever need to change anything and once you make a habit of faking it on a regular basis that's also probably a reason why some people don't want to have sex women can't be bothered
Starting point is 00:14:33 because they're not doing it right like in the nicest possible way or they're not getting as much from it well yeah like i think i said in like one of the first few episodes where we briefly spoke about sex like it does become that kind of chore of like you know oh we need to have sex and I know I just said a minute ago like just push yourself get into it but I mean I don't mean get into it and do that five minute like let him like finish and then you're done and just sort of lie there really get into it and like learn about your body like if you you need to experiment and and realize that what women actually want and let the man know what it is you want like it's very rare for women to have an orgasm just from
Starting point is 00:15:19 normal penetration and again like that comes with the communication i think you have to be comfortable to communicate with someone what you like you have to be comfortable with someone to explore and feel safe like do you know what i mean like to try new things and to you know trust like trust them in that in that regard and i believe that if you are not able to communicate what you want or what you need in the bedroom then maybe you're having sex with the wrong person because you should be able to communicate it and you know what I also think that maybe when you start a relationship at a really young age you yourself don't even really know what your body likes or reacts to or needs and I think that maybe I'm slightly guilty of like not even really knowing my own body. Do you know what I mean? So then like if you don't, if you and your partner don't, you know, explore or communicate or like really work on like what makes you have an orgasm,
Starting point is 00:16:16 then your sex isn't going to be that great. And I think that that really kind of like vanilla mundane husband and wife sex that maybe you do have when you kind of like oh like he wants sex or like come on quickly like jump on jump on come for a ride like it then isn't exciting to for the woman to be like oh my god that was so good i want to do it again because if you're not having regular orgasms there's no enticement to want to have sex do you know what i mean yeah or even like if you just feel like your needs needs aren't being met or like it's almost like you're not being taken into account like you're isn't you're not being thought of in regards to your pleasure. Yeah. I think, yeah. And I think a lot of men are probably quite selfish in the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And that is not going to make the woman keen to continue like a regular sex. Yeah, no, I 100% agree. Yeah, 100% agree. So someone's put here, we have sex regularly, but I just find it quite dull. So spice it up. Do something. I don't know. Buy like a body stocking or like a sexy outfit, like toys.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, like do something different. And you do it. I feel like if you was to pull something out as the woman. Pull what out? That came out there, right? I can't say. Yeah, it'll be. It's spreading everywhere. No, I feel, yeah. no i feel yeah underwear i've always like disowned if the woman were to do that yes it's nice for the man to do it as well i'm not saying that but it's also i feel like that would be exciting for the man to be like oh like she's you know she because i think for men as well they probably feel like
Starting point is 00:18:03 it's not her thing like i don't want to lie almost like it can be quite i don't know if it's different and you're used to like it sounds like this woman's used to having vanilla yeah a very vanilla sex life maybe and if she's you know he probably thinks this is enough for her this is like okay if she says especially if she's been faking it yeah if she says like i've got something i want to try i feel like hey that's probably a massive turn on for him as well but also then she's gonna oh my advice would be head over to love honey they don't sponsor us yet yet um okay hold on saw another one that was quite interesting okay i think you're going to be shocked about this but
Starting point is 00:18:42 this doesn't shock me because i'm actually aware that it's quite a common fetish but it's quite weird okay okay my partner gets a thrill out of me being with other men so read it again my partner gets a thrill out of me being with other men so basically obviously it sounds really weird yeah but it's actually a really really common fetish but i think maybe a lot of people will keep that to themselves but my men what but not. I'd be jealous. I'd be like, hell no. I think it is more popular in men, but they almost get like a thrill of even watching. Stop it. Yeah, their partner have sex with someone else. Now, if you're with someone that you don't really like that much
Starting point is 00:19:44 and that's a fucking silver lining he's either just going that's the next level yeah it wouldn't be my thing but it's actually really really common i've never come across this in my life and that actually that terrifies me one guy i was speaking to that was his fetishish. I'm going to put it right now. It wasn't something that I did because I don't personally like the idea of it because I think it's a bit weird. I like it's disrespectful. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:17 For me, sex is a very intimate thing between two people. I know for some people like yeah they get thrills from i don't know even talking about like things like threesome yeah i did what are your thoughts on threesomes for me it's just not like a thing i'd again i think i'm quite a jealous person so i'm i would not be able to handle it but you're obviously talking girl girl boy i'm talking anything i but you wouldn't be jealous boy boy girl because they're both no i didn't but i it just doesn't appeal to me like in any way i just felt yeah if it was girl girl boy absolutely not yeah girl girl boy and i also know like if you've got any insecurities that's just gonna make it even worse agreed um
Starting point is 00:21:04 in my opinion and i again i know there's people in this world that dabble in that kind of thing i i feel like if the thing i'm actually looking to nurture is my relationship that's actually going to push me further apart from that yeah i feel like threesomes are probably like i've never had one but if i ever were to i would only ever feel like it would be feasible with someone that i'm not in a serious relationship with i don't think you could do it in a serious i i wouldn't want to do it in a serious relationship it just doesn't yeah yeah so again i guess the people you were speaking about would enjoy stuff like that then? Yeah. Which I find quite weird, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But each to their own. You know, people that are single and just going out on dates and having fun, I can appreciate someone wanting a threesome, if I'm being completely honest. If you don't have strong feelings for someone and you just want to have a bit of fun and you're experimenting, go for it. Have a fives five sim but i don't really know how that would work yeah but um for me threesomes would be a no in a serious relationship without swinging no because i'm such a jealous person yeah and i don't i when i'm with someone like tunnel vision like them away so like someone's put here like we we've been married for 10 years and we've had an open relationship for five and it's made our sex
Starting point is 00:22:32 life much better see I understand so for some people it might make their sex life better but I feel like I don't know would a result of that bring up other issues well I don't know because I don't understand an open relationship is that just sex or is that like date so like i've never understood the concept of like having more fascinating when like channel four do these documentaries on like polyamorous people yeah i find it fascinating but i just cannot relate to where i am such like a i'm an old romantic and i love the idea of love i love the idea of it being two people and i i genuinely believe that sex is a very intimate thing between two people who have feelings for each other i know that is so old school and not a lot of people think like no but but i think it's
Starting point is 00:23:16 a shame for people not to like yeah swinging open relationships everything like that no love to hear from anyone who yeah i can oh i'd like to hear your story yeah so email us please if you i feel like we're doing a lot of do they put their watches in the bowl or is that very moving it's like an old school thing isn't it people used to have pampas outside their house that was it was called swing and scraps and that's how you knew those people were swingers but now pampas like i've got pampas and i'm not a swing like there's just that pampas right there that's funny i can't directly tell you i'm not a swing but um yeah it it does blow my mind a bit it does like the whole concept baffles me i'm fascinated yeah same i'm fascinated i think i get fascinated by people living in different ways to what i know yeah interesting okay a guy i was dating kept asking to lick my bum hole
Starting point is 00:24:08 i refuse fair to say we weren't together very long that's like fetish isn't it i don't think it's a fetish it's just like it's a different pill no i hope she had a i hope i hope it's a washed and well she said no so it doesn't matter. That's true. That's true. Well, seeing a guy for a month, things started to get serious in the bedroom and he kept making me wear a mask on my face. What kind of mask? It would make me feel like he's ugly.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Put that in my bag. Maybe she means like those leather. Leather. No, I just think of a leather mask. That is like a BDSM. I feel like I'm more like understanding of like a blindfold. Yeah, a mask actually makes me feel like. Be very hot.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's why I'd be like that when he doesn't want to see my face. Be very hot. Very sweaty. Get a bit of a sula Get a bit of a sula. A bit of a sula. Interesting. Something my ex-partner liked to do. This is maybe one of the reasons why he's now an ex.
Starting point is 00:25:15 This is not for me. And I know that you're going to say no. He enjoyed weeing on me. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. Some people really feel like don't get it, but I don't get how that is. But that's quite common, pissing on each other.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I don't get it. I don't get it. The bed would get ruined. Or is it done in the shower? Stay there, let me just piss on you. Wee smells bad. No no i don't like that and i don't i don't understand the appeal of it i don't i don't find we like i don't see how it's a sexual thing i'm obviously it is but i just don't most of them are yeah different aren't they not for me not
Starting point is 00:26:01 clearly wasn't for her either my partner and I have quite different sex. Sometimes it can be really nice and romantic and other times quite rough. When rough, he likes to strangle my neck and spit in my mouth. You're funny. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Good for you but I just find that quite depressing. Does she like it though this is why well I don't know it's her partner she doesn't
Starting point is 00:26:28 you wouldn't just do something I feel like I feel like it sounds like they sometimes they have nice sex like romantic
Starting point is 00:26:34 and sometimes they have rough sex like I actually think that's nice having like yeah a bit of both I think it's good to have both
Starting point is 00:26:40 spitting's not for me no I think it it would make me feel like a bit like oh like get on the floor like I don it would make me feel like a bit like oh like get on the slot like I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:48 like I feel like I'd feel degraded I don't I don't like no neither do I and imagine if it's all like phlegmy and thick no
Starting point is 00:26:56 and then what if like you can swallow it I don't know it's just I don't I don't like that yeah not for me but again interesting yeah I mean I've I've heard like that. Yeah, not for me. But again, interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I mean, I've heard of it, but it's not for me. I matched with a guy on Tinder and one of the first things that he told me is that he has a fetish for feet and asked to see a photo of my big toe. Why just the damn toe? Ben, be here for your you always
Starting point is 00:27:28 that's my thinking when I'm thinking or I concentrate my toe points up this could be making me John O'Neill stop pointing at me you're making me toe anxious that's why I wear socks why am I so wrong
Starting point is 00:27:43 no feet is a big thing it is I don't get it I don't understand it either I find that just feet are just gross and smelly or like
Starting point is 00:27:51 I don't know they're just not nice there are only people in the world with nice feet are babies and some of them
Starting point is 00:27:57 are like love a baby feet so soft and like the skin is like so like I don't get it but I know a lot of people who do.
Starting point is 00:28:10 All jokes aside, I've definitely had people in my time slide into my messages and ask if I can send pictures of my feet. Or years ago, I had someone ask if they could buy some of my shoes that I'd worn. What a man. And this was a weird story. So this person, this must have been have been god i was working in london so it must have been a good seven eight years ago i kept getting these messages on instagram like from this profile couldn't tell who it was and asking if would i sell my shoes would i sell my shoes just ask me for loads I was like it's really weird like delete in the messages I was terrified and I can't remember how it came out but like it must
Starting point is 00:28:49 have been like a fake profile he was using and then like one day he must have changed it and it was someone who worked in the school I used to work in oh he was like in charge of behavior like a bit older than me and I felt physically ill. Yeah. Physically ill, but people were weird. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:29:09 So weird. So is it, guys. Hmm. Um, not a question, but at the age of 14, after two children and a divorce,
Starting point is 00:29:17 I'm having the best sex of my life. Pretenses! Yeah! Woo-hoo! Woo-woo-woo! Do you know what? I'm not good at that. In your 40s, anyone listening to this. Do you know what? Not good as that.
Starting point is 00:29:25 In your 40s, anyone listening to this, if you're worried, only gets better. Oh, okay. So this person's written a list of three of her best fetishes from her husband. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Okay. Number one, being tied up and blindfolded. I'm going to read my own. Number two, water sports, which is what we've just mentioned. Is that what that's like? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Do you like how I'm not facing you?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Why are you not facing me? She makes me laugh. And number three, role play. So we haven't actually discussed role play. It depends how far you take it because it could be exciting being someone else. Yeah. Like a nurse or a policewoman.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Or a maid. Or a French maid. Or a Simon. They're the ones I can think of. or a police woman or a maid or a French maid or a fireman. They're the ones I can think of. They're the ones I've dabbled with. Just last week I was a maid. No. Yeah, I think tying up and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:30:39 is quite like, it's a normal fetish. I wouldn't read that and be like, sorry, what? Yeah. I really wanted to find some crazy ones. Went on a date with a guy. Before our second date, he asked for my email.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Dot, dot, dot. He sent me a checklist of all the things I'd allow in the bedroom. I'm going to send you the checklist in the DM. Fuck. But is it like a... A notice sheet? A section? Hang on. After the second day oh okay so for those of you i'm watching on youtube i'm just gonna try my best to describe
Starting point is 00:31:20 it for everyone listening i'm gonna show you so it's literally like an excel spreadsheet excel normal it's a formal spreadsheet so this looks like something he's sent to a lot of people to start with the thing that i notice is there's a couple of columns legend for experience and legend for limit slash interest so there's a rating scale first one is zero to five zero is no answer then it goes no experience no interest no experience but interested a little experience some experience a lot of experience and then the other bit is hard limit not willing at all neutral unish uninterested may try for partner willing to try like it love it okay oh my god there need me this list no i'm gonna die there are different categories okay so there's different categories i'll just this
Starting point is 00:32:11 guy sounds like a bit amused how i do my packing list no i mean like all the categories oh yeah i mean this guy have a holiday where can we find this guy so um i'd like in my head i just don't know people like this exist but i want to read this because i do think this is really like fascinating so i'll i'll list like a few from each of the categories so the first category we've got is bondage and suspension so things on there are things like what there's bondage light bondage heavy bondage multi-day i have no idea what the difference are with these things guys leather restraints intricate japanese's bondage light, bondage heavy, bondage multi-day. I have no idea what the difference are with these things, guys. Leather restraints, intricate Japanese rope bondage, cuffs, harnesses, gags, rubber tape, phallic ring,
Starting point is 00:32:56 ball, mouth bits, forehead hoods. Suspension, upright, horizontal and inverted. So that whole one is suspension upright with ceiling inverted you mean that's not hanging from the ceiling upside down so then the columns go experience limits interest so i guess that's where she rates yeah those things and then oh there's also a comments section how kind sir um so let me move on to the next one impact percussion hold on percussion is in like music like do you think he puts like a flute up as in as in spanking flogging single
Starting point is 00:33:35 tail whips canes belts leather straps riding crops hair brushes wooden paddles slapping back buttocks breasts gentles strapping brackets full body beating hair pulling face slapping No I'm pulling my hair my extensions have come out that's my first concern it's the way that that's my first concern out of all those things
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm like don't pull my hair but full body beating is fine I'm so hot you feel ill right sexual activity I don't even know
Starting point is 00:34:14 if I can read these words out loud on the internet does she want to read it yeah fellatio
Starting point is 00:34:21 deep throat face fuck come in my mouth come on my face come on my body hand job foot job and now i've found my body from pilates um anal sex anal plugs small anal plugs large anal bees vibrator on genitals masturbation fisting never understood that never understood that how the surely you've got to be like 10 centi style is i braun you keep going oral and anal play rimming what is rimming i don't want to know right carry on double penetration oral and anal
Starting point is 00:35:08 okay that was something else i'm just trying to think how that works with one peanut it wouldn't okay um double penetration anal and vaginal or it could be with toy yeah fine triple forced masturbation phone sex group sex outdoor sex orgasm control okay we're on to the next activity sorry if people like i i feel like i need to read this whole thing because it's just blowing my mind as well like i don't i think we we're in when i seen it was a pdf like a big excel document i'm sorry i feel like people are probably as fascinated as we are that someone actually sent this before a second date yeah what the hell if someone sent you there i need to read her response after this once we've read this out this is sensation play a brace how do i say thatasion. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Google. Scratching, biting, tickling, kissing. That seems a bit normal, doesn't it? Zapping. Electric flywater. Hi! Ice cubes. Wax play.
Starting point is 00:36:21 That's torture, no? Clothes spins. Do you do it when you've... Fuck knows. And then, okay, and then... Breath play. Breath control and choking. And then on to humiliation category.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I don't like that teasing humiliation in private humiliation in public I want to know what that I don't know verbal humiliation that like abusive
Starting point is 00:36:55 like like their I don't know verbal humiliation I don't like that who I've so don't say that to me in public
Starting point is 00:37:02 oh my god I'd literally spitting washing mouth out with soap. No. Shaving. Sexy clothes in private, sexy clothes in public. Outdoor scenes in public exposure.
Starting point is 00:37:18 He's a proper dom, isn't he? This is like full on. It's like body what she had to sign body part torture nipple clips nipple weights
Starting point is 00:37:31 what? That was why give it in wouldn't you end up with really saggy nipples? That's not attractive. Nipple suction cups I'm so confused.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Fetishes feet boots boots Suction cups. I'm so confused. Fetishes. Feet. Boots. Boots. Underwear. Chastity devices. Masks and leather clothing.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I feel like we could have, we can just scrap anyone else's emails and just, we'll just send those guys to the law. And role-playing. It's quite a big category okay seer play fantasy abandonment kidnapping i kind of feel like this is daddy mummy interrogation sleep deprivation gangbang initiation rights religious scenes religious scenes, medical scenes, prison scenes and schoolroom scenes. Okay, I think that last category for me is... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That for me, in my opinion, is just a bit messed up. No? I feel like before that section, I was intrigued. Now I'm scared. Yeah, I don't... That makes me feel like this person's actually got issues. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Okay, next one. One more. Service and restrictive behaviour. Following orders. Forced servitude. Restrictive rules and behaviour. Eye contact restrictions. Speech restrictions.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Dom, this is probably from her. Speech restrictions. Kneeling. Begging. Standing in the corner. Learned postures. speech restrictions Dom this is proper room restrictions kneeling begging standing in the corner learned postures rituals and massaging
Starting point is 00:39:11 this is like a proper there's two more categories this category is voyeurism I've heard of it but I don't know what it is exhibitionism forced nudity in private. Forced nudity around others.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Exhibitionism. It's like shaming, isn't it? Exhibitionism. Exhibitionism. Modelling for erotic photos. Video watching others. Video recording of yourself. Voyeurism watching others.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Voyeurism your dom with others that's what i said watching someone else have sex with someone else and then the last one is bodily fluids it's just it's a whole to sports golden showers and come it's all slightly like i'm well now at first at first it was funny but now it's like this got hold on we need to find
Starting point is 00:40:09 we need to find out what she's said yeah hold on she's but she's put here did I fill it in yes I fucking did do I look like
Starting point is 00:40:18 an absolute amateur sure thing who even asked someone if they would allow public humiliation or if they like prison scenes. So did she do anything?
Starting point is 00:40:28 I need to know. That is, do you know what? When we first started this episode, I did not think that we'd get much, but that was on another level. Whoever you are, we love you. You've basically made our episode. But I'm also like
Starting point is 00:40:50 it's really dark isn't it i feel like that's really dark but i think it actually opens your eyes to realize like that does exist and people like enjoy that and do that and you know what if you're with another person and you're both on the same page then knock your settings out and go to the house and you're genuinely i think with things like that you've genuinely got to be okay with it and i also think what's really important is not to lose yourself and like do things to make someone else happy i think really really important is to you have to be fully comfortable if you're trying anything new or you know you've met someone and they've got a particular fetish or a particular kink they like you know what i guess one good thing is is he obviously knows that he's got
Starting point is 00:41:32 very un very unusual things it tastes but he only wants to do it with her consent i mean he has to i think no but but i feel like so actually and so actually he's actually showing respect by sending that maybe a bit soon but like he wants to know he doesn't want to do anything and spring it on her so I mean he's got about it the right way
Starting point is 00:41:57 can you imagine someone sprung a bloody prison scene on you babe or like hanging you upside down so yeah before we maybe go to a few emails thank you for sending everything in that was amazing and for anyone interested in the pdf send us a dm and we'd be happy to forward it to you and we won't judge you no so yeah should we read an email or we can put a screenshot on our stories and you screenshot it. No, because I want to know who wants it.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm joking. Okay, let's find an email. Okay, this one's... Hold on. We got a bit of a different email the other day and actually it fits in really nicely. It fits so well. So someone messaged us with subjects saying topic requests so i thought yeah
Starting point is 00:42:45 we love hearing from people like wanting to know what you'd like us to talk about so she said like hi lovelies i love your podcast can i please request a topic for discussion on the podcast i've got a few questions and we'd really love to know the answer so obviously i replied saying absolutely and this was her response thanks so much it's quite a random topic but it's an irrational phobia do you girls have any and have you ever tried to confront them my phobia is belly buttons specifically touching them i hate if anyone sticks their finger in my belly button or if they're or in their belly button. Who am I asking?
Starting point is 00:43:29 How much you deal with belly buttons. Okay, I'm just going to... Also, in your pregnancy experiences, does it always become an outie? I'm so fascinated by my phobia because I know there are some very specific ones. I don't know why I have this. Would you mind doing a topic on this? Now, it's safe to say we're not going to do an episode on belly buttons. I don't know how high the views will be and I don't really have that much to say on that. I'm surprised that PDF did not state anything about belly buttons.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Me too, actually. anything about belly button actually i i don't have enough experience of anyone putting fingers or anything else for that matter in my belly button maybe my kids occasionally yeah yeah and they push a bit too hard don't know and my belly button did stick out in both my pregnancies that it went back it does go back actually if we're talking about belly buttons before i got pregnant i had a really deep innie, like a really deep. Like once I remember I got a pee stuck in the ass. Stop. I put a pee in there.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We couldn't get it out. We had to get it to your face. I feel like it's really traumatised. It's the lady though. I'm so sorry. How old are we? 21. 21.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Maybe 15. No. I was really weird in school. I wasn't like one of those girls who liked... I went to an all-girls grammar school. We didn't do stuff to impress people. I went to an all-girls grammar school. I didn't do anything with people.
Starting point is 00:45:00 He's got a smarty stuck in there. He's got your hat. I was such a weird child honestly have you changed precisely sorry i'm actually once i'm sorry is this gonna be a whole episode on belly apparently apparently i have enough content on bellybutton once so i used to be really insecure of how deep my belly button was that i actually wanted content on bellybutton once. So I used to be really insecure of how deep my bellybutton was that I actually wanted... Talking about bellybutton, I actually have more to say. So, yeah, since I've had kids, my bellybutton has changed.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But I had my bellybutton pierced when I was younger. And now it looks like that's ugliest. It's a horrible thing. And it hardens up my bellybutton. Yeah, because I would... I feel like it was very in like i've got i've done my mom took me like i'd rather go with you same and now it's like that loose skin at the top it's all like what i mean mine's way worse i ain't getting my i don't want
Starting point is 00:45:58 to don't want to scare the youtube viewers um yeah so thank you for sending that email about belly buttons it's definitely allowed us to know a bit more about carly's, so thank you for sending that email about belly buttons. It's definitely allowed us to know a bit more about Carly's childhood. So there you go. Should we do a few sale-lies before we end the episode? Okay. I walked in on my partner trying
Starting point is 00:46:18 on my underwear. I think you need to have a talk. What's going on? I think she needs to have a talk I mean what's going on I think you need to have a talk I don't know I don't know what the whole situation I mean the thing is I feel like it wouldn't make me like end
Starting point is 00:46:37 my marriage I would be concerned but I would be a bit but some some men find like cross-dressing like that's a fetish but yeah the thing is I guess like
Starting point is 00:46:49 if he turned around he was like I do have a bit of a fetish for cross-dressing I'd be like cool that's not my thing do it in your own time I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:56 don't park my underwear on bike rides I feel like this episode in general my mind is boggled I don't understand anything anymore everything I ever knew
Starting point is 00:47:04 is so cool and all I'm thinking understand anything anymore. Everything I ever knew is boggled. All I'm thinking about is your belly button. I'm sorry for anyone who I've told. Maybe we should put a trigger warning about the heath and smarties. Okay. In fact, still leave. My libido is a lot higher than my husband's.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I love that these are all relevant to the episode. Again, I don't think that's a need. I feel like it comes to compromise and discussing it. There are other ways in which you can be like, where your needs can be met. Yeah. Or maybe you need to invest in some toys
Starting point is 00:47:39 and do stuff on your own as well. Yeah. Again, communicate with him. Is he aware that you want to have sex more than you do and like maybe you did i think i'd find that quite hard because i think still like stereotypically men tend to like ask for more want it more so it can be quite like maybe a hit on your self-esteem if you're asking for sex and they're a bit like no I don't want to
Starting point is 00:48:07 but yeah it definitely communicates it that's not a leave no it's not a leave last one I've been seeing a guy for about a year but he still speaks to his ex and says they're just friends I can't shake it I would leave
Starting point is 00:48:24 I'm sorry I also think that's like disrespect if that's a problem for you and you've said that to him I think if he wants to be with you he'd understand like yeah understanding that I personally from in my opinion if it was that way around if someone wanted to still be with someone who they'd had I I don't know, emotions for, they'd been with or whatever, that would be a problem. Yeah, if there's no kids involved, I feel like you're not friends with your ex, in my opinion. I would never want to be the person to tell my partner
Starting point is 00:48:55 what they can and can't do, but they should respect how you feel. Respect? Yeah, so no, I'd leave. I would leave too. It's not worth it. We're going to do an affirmation of the week, but I think we need to try and link it in with today's episode. Yeah, should I just Google one?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Google it. Go straight to Google. Okay. Sex affirmations. Okay. I feel like this is, we've spoken about there. So, communicating my sexual needs is natural and welcomed. I like that. Yeah. I really like that. So, repeat my sexual needs is natural and welcomed. I like that.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah. I really like that. So, repeat that, guys. Communicating my sexual needs is natural and welcomed. Now, go and all have great sex. And be sure to fill in the list. Oh, yeah. Let us know if you want the PDF.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And thank you so much for listening, guys. Make sure you follow us subscribe share spread and spread the word and yeah we will see you again next week thank you bye

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