Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce - Kylie & Ciara on Super Bowl Bathroom Meetups, New York New Chapter & Embracing Stretch Marks | Ep. 31

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Toyota and kicks off the show by reacting to The Other Podcast breaking the internet (0:40) and how she feels about the possibility of an "orange album" translating to an orange tabby cat for the family?! (2:09) Then in Doomscroll of the Week, some Real Ones sent in even more Gen Z slang for Kylie to learn about, specifically the term “cracked” (4:08). Chat, let us know if you clock any other new words that are absolutely glazing with aura points by tagging us @nglwithkylie. After that, Kylie debuts a brand new edition of “Can I Be Honest?” where she explains how no one tells moms about the small joys they have to put on hold when their kids are little like “sitting down,” “giving people your undivided attention” and “watching shows you actually want to watch” (5:55). Kylie is then joined by Grammy-winning superstar Ciara (14:22)! They catch up after spending Saturday together at the Gotham FC soccer game and the importance of women lifting women! Kylie then reveals the soccer game was actually NOT the first time she and Ciara met… (16:30). Then, Kylie asks Ciara about her new album CiCi out August 22nd! She reveals some special news about the album as well as her favorite track (18:40). Kylie then throws the conversation back to 2004 to ask Ciara about the original title of her hit song “Goodies” and what her friendship with Missy Elliott means to her (21:17). Kylie and Ciara also bond over being NFL wives and their new ability to dislike the Cowboys together as NFC East rivals (24:40)! Ciara talks about her family’s move to New York for Russell Wilson’s new team, as well as how she manages the challenging schedule of an NFL player (27:35). Also, Kylie asks Ciara about her and Russell Wilson’s impressive matchmaking abilities, particularly about how they set up Russell’s former teammate DK Metcalf with his now fiancée Normani (33:01). Ciara gives Kylie tips on how to be a matchmaker for the next time her friends ask to be set up with someone. Kylie and Ciara also talk about motherhood and their postpartum bodies, highlighting the importance of appreciating their bodies for growing tiny humans and embracing the changes that come with that (38:37). Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Ciara! . . . Purchase NGL Merch: www.nglkylie.com Support the Show:   Toyota: To learn more about the Toyota Sienna, please visit https://www.toyota.com/sienna/ Pre-Save Ciara’s New Album CiCi Out August 22nd! https://ciara.lnk.to/cici Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not going to lie, I was a little confused. Ellie told me that her toe had a headache. I'm still not sure what it meant, but it has gone away. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, A Wave Original, brought to you by Toyota. Let's Go Places. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, 33-year-old teen mom, Gotham FC Women's Soccer fan,

until Philadelphia gets a team. And officially no longer the record holder for the most watched episode of The Other Podcast. And there's no way it's even close. And I love that for me. Full disclosure, we're taping this episode on Tuesday morning. So new this week has, oh, I shouldn't say new that felt weird.

We're taping this episode on Tuesday morning. So the other podcast, we all know what's about to happen. And I love it so much. I, it is, it is very entertaining to watch the internet break. It's just crumbling apart. And I love it. I love that a day before it releases, we know at Knock on Lie that my, my interview on the other podcast is about to, it's going to lose its long. tenured rain as top watched episode. And I welcome that wholeheartedly. Let's drop that sucker all the way down. But also, I'm also excited to watch the episode. Very much so. I want to find out all the things because I don't know that what's they're saying. Anyway, a lot of real ones and people in my real life have been asking me if I knew this was happening. And to that I say,

we also got this question from Real One Grace Davis. Orange album, question mark. Jason Kelsey, in honor of the new album, you should buy at Kylie Kelsey at NGO with Kylie, an orange tabby cat. I'm just saying your girls will love it. Great idea. Let's slide the cat in there. We'll bait and switch Jason. We'll show them like, oh my gosh, whoa, you guys are breaking the internet with your podcast. Boom. Cat in the house. He'll never know. Outstanding. No notes. I don't think the cat dream is any closer to coming true. I do have to break that too. I think we're probably a little ways out from the cat. But like I've said before, we're in this for the long game. There will be a cat in our future. Now that that's been addressed coming up on today's episode, there is nothing I

love more in this world than being a mom. But occasionally, I do miss a few small luxuries from my pre-parenting life, like not having to schedule my showers. Yeah. So I'm going to get honest about that. And some other simple joys that are currently, we'll call it on hold. After that, I'm going to be joined by Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and dancer. She's a 2000s R&B icon and someone I have, you guessed it, zero business speaking to, guys, we got Sierra. I'm so excited. We had the pleasure of meeting this past weekend at Gotham FC, which you'll hear about in our interview. But I have to tell you guys something because, you know, I always want to give you unfiltered truth. She's even pretty in person.

It is, she floats, like she glided into the room. Stunning. But first, let's get right into. to Doomscrawl the week. This week I found myself doom scrolling our own mentions because they were absolutely glazing since I did our Gen Z slang pop quiz. Chat, did I use glazing right? You clock that? No, that. First up, there was even more new slang you guys wanted me to know about. Real one, Liz's new beginning, commented on our slang clip. Please do part two with the Gen Z term cracked slash got cracked because it's not what you think at all. According to Urban Dictionary,

cracked means internet gaming term used for people who are insanely good at something. Okay, that's not the cracked that I looked up. I believe I looked up got cracked, which is very different. This, we should put a parental warning on this one. I hope that there aren't kids listening. Queen Emma, roll the clip. It says got, quote, cracked last night. Everyone's packages will be delivered on time today.

That's what the UPS man is saying. And for those of you who are listening audience, he puts his foot up on the front seat and gyrates a lot. little bit well done sir a user on the what does this mean subreddit defines got cracked very eloquently it means she received a respectable romp between the sheets with a partner of her choosing yeah okay got it i think we can all agree the day There's no way that's I think that doesn't

Forgot Christ Chat Next up Can I be honest I was down the shore Over the weekend And as I was sitting there Absolutely covered in sand

Trying to keep my eyes On all four children As three of them are running In opposite directions Trying to build a sandcastle From my chair Because I'm holding the four month old But also trying to stay in the shade

Trying to sunscreen them so that we don't end up with sunburn on tiny humans, opening snack bags, but also trying to get the sand off of their hands while their hands are still wet. And then they try to get up off the sand with their hands in the sand. I looked out to the water and realized I miss swimming in the ocean. There are so many things as a parent that you take for granted. You think to yourself, it's not could be that different. I just have to take care of this tiny human. And then it's the little things. These teeny tiny little things that pop up and you're just like, well, damn. So I want to preface this by explaining, I love being a mom. And I've said this a number of times that I am unbelievably

grateful to have my tiny humans. It is a privilege. And I recognize. And I recognize. I can I say that. But I'm going to get real honest about this. So I already said swimming in the ocean, here's the rest of my list of the top 10 things I miss most as a mom. And by that I mean recently, because I guarantee you two months from now, it's going to be a different list. Number one, I miss sitting down for extended periods of time. I don't want to come wipe your butt. I want to sit my butt in a spot, and I want to stay there. Okay? Two, I miss wearing two AirPods because I put one in to hear a text message, a phone call. This is actually, this is a little bit of a life hack. If you are doing things with your children, if you put an AirPods in, you will be

able to hear your phone dictate your text messages. You'll know that you got a phone call. The important things will still happen, but you can leave your phone in the other room so that your tiny humans don't steal it. Number three, I miss showering whenever I want for however long I want. Now, I of course, if at any point needed to shower, could tell my husband or whoever is with the kids, hey, I'm going to go shower, right? But it's not that simple. I need to plan it around when I work out. I need to plan it on feeds for the child. I need to plan around the tiny humans having eyes on them. I just want to take a shower. I want to take an everything shower on a more regular pieces.

Number four, I miss giving people my undivided attention. I want to have a conversation with another grown adult in my house without having mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mama, mom, mommy, mom, mom, excuse me, mom, excuse me, mom, excuse me, mom, excuse me, mom, excuse me, mom, excuse me mom, mom mom excuse me it's that bad and the worst part is is that now that i've now that we've arrived at the destination of understanding that you need to say excuse me it's unbelievably cute and they're being polite so i feel like i then have to even if i'm like hey i appreciate that you said excuse me but mom's in the middle of a conversation as soon as i'm done I will ask you what you needed from me.

Okay. But mom, just real quick. I just want to, I just want to, I just want to talk to someone and be able to lock in. Number five, I miss leaving the house with at most my phone and my keys. I don't want to have to have diapers, wipes, hand sanitizer, an outfit for every single person in the car. Number six, I miss not having to plan aggressively around outside. temperature. Do you know what I personally wear when it's raining? Exactly what I wear when it's

not fucking raining. Number seven, I miss watching movies and TV shows that I want to watch. Don't get me wrong. I give a lot of love to a lot of kids shows on here. And there are certain ones that I truly, I'm okay watching. Like, I enjoy it. But sometimes you just want to rewatch New Girl for the 70 second time and not be argued with. Number eight, I miss getting to actually play games at an arcade. So this one, this one is a little niche. But we have an arcade that we go to at the shore. And I love an arcade games.

I'm a, I am a competitive human being. And do I want any of the prizes? Not real. do I want to win? You're fucking right I do. But I can't do that if I have a child hanging on my leg and another one in my right arm. We kind of cracked the code last summer because I had a sitter so that we could go to the arcade after our kids went to sleep. I did that. Don't tell them. I swear to God, if you tell them, I'll never hear the end of it. Don't tell them. Number nine, I miss sitting down to an uninterrupted meal. If I'm lucky, you want to go a step further. Doing that with my husband.

Number 10, I miss getting a full eight hours of sleep. This is the most self-explanatory. I miss it. When I didn't have tiny human feeding overnight, I swear they take turns. They have a little meeting right before bedtime. They're like, hey, I'm actually really tired tonight. Anyone else want to take this shift? And one of the other ones is going to be like, I got this. I'm going to have a nightmare about a spider. I'm going to scream my fucking head off. And then guess what they do? 215. Mom! That does it for my list. And for can I be honest, let me know what's on your list by tagging us at NGL with Kylie. Coming up, Sierra is about to join the show

right after my brand new minivan, mini update. Brought to you by Toyota. It's been a few months now since we made the decision to go with the Toyota Sienna as our family car, and I have to admit, I might be done resisting my minivan mom era. Mostly because it's here. But nobody tell Jason.

This stays between us. I have no one to blame for this change of heart besides my Sienna herself. She's simply making it way too easy for me to embrace minivan life. The number of times that I have had full hands and kicked my foot under the door or under the trunk and it just magically opened. Chef's Kiss.

I also got a shout out the Toyota Sienna's built-in vacuum. I use that thing all the time. And I think every parent out there knows exactly what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure they have snacks stuffed in their pockets. And when they come into the car, they just sprinkle them. If you've been resisting the minivan life like I was, take it from me. Just take the leap. Go for a test drive at your local Toyota dealership.

And head to Toyota.com backslash Sienna to learn more. She's the iconic Grammy Award-winning singer, songwriter and dancer, who brought us such classic bangers, like one-two-step, goodies, and like a boy, which I jammed out hard to this morning. She's got eight studio albums, including her newest one, Cece, out August 22nd. She's also a fellow mom of four, a wife of an NFL player. I can't believe I'm saying this. Sierra, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.

Hi, Kylie. Good morning. How are you? I am so excited to talk to you. We just had the pleasure of running into each other at the FC, Gotham FC game this past weekend. Did you enjoy the game? Did you get to watch? I did. I enjoyed the game. I had such a great time. I went there to help Light the Torch, which is a very special tradition that they have there at FC Gotham. And meeting all the girls as well, you know, the whole team was really cool. You know, it's funny because Because Russ and I are proud part owners of the Seattle Sounders soccer team, and obviously there's Seattle Rain, and we just understand the significance of women in sports in general. And so, you know, while I represent another club in Seattle, that is, you know, the home team for me, it still was important to be there for a day like that, which was so important. I know Dove had the keeper in the game, you know, movement going. I think it's important for us to be there for as many people as possible to show up for girls all over. So I'm like, this is the one day I'll break the rule because, you know, I want to be

there. I'll cross the, I'll cross the team lines. That's it. Step into enemy territory. Yeah. I had a great time. Did you have a good time as well? It was incredible. And such an honor to be there, like you said, supporting women, supporting women, because we need it. And it's such, such a great example. They had so many initiatives of bringing in young athletes to see these women showing them exactly what they can strive to be. So it was a really cool day. Now, before we go any further, I actually have to start with my own, not going to lie, we met before. This is such an embarrassing story. We did. What happened? We've met one time. And I took this experience with me afterwards and was just like, you know, like when you talk to someone and you just have this moment

afterwards and you're like you moron you're a moron uh because we were i was in the bathroom at the super bowl in miami i believe it was feeding our oldest who is now five so this was five years ago and i uh i was feeding her in the bathroom and you had just announced i believe it is your third that you were pregnant with yeah when and i said Oh, congratulations. And you said, you were so gracious, of course. You were like, thank you so much. And I was like, oh, by the way, my husband loves your husband. And you, of course, again, so sweet, we're like, oh, that's so nice. Thank you. And in my head, I was like, oh, wait, you think my husband is a fan of your husband, which he is. But like, he also knows him. So then I was like in a panic to be like,

oh well they were just at pro bowl together last week i was like gosh this is not it's not getting any better so then i was just like okay and i was like there wasn't a there wasn't a nice way to say that just a couple days ago your husband was behind my husband you know catch a snap exactly i was like gosh you just made it sound like your husband and he is like i said a fan of your husband. But it was just so funny that in the moment I was just like, oh, I never thought of it that way. It's so funny. Yes. That is comedy. Well, my husband's also a fan of your husband and his legacy that he built. And, you know, so there's love both ways. We'll circle back to football. But right now, I'd love to talk to you about some of your music. Like I said, I'm a big fan

and I'm so excited about your new album, CC, which comes out August 22nd. What's a your favorite song from the new album? Oh, man. Let me tell you, I'm so excited for this album, Kylie. This is, this album is a labor of love because it's literally been almost like five years and some change since I've been working on it. And I've also been releasing songs in real time. And I'll tell you, this is the first time I think I will be saying this on an interview. As you know, the 22nd is the big day that my fans finally get to unlock the album. And when I say Unlocked, because it started out as an EP, and then I share that EP with the world, and there's like six or seven songs on there. And then I was just creating along the way,

and I'm like, I'm going to stop sitting on these songs. Like, my fans deserve to have these records. Don't overthink it. They say, think long, think wrong. I'm like, I want to tell my fans, thank you for their support. Why hold back the music, give it to them. So the 22nd, as you know, is the release date. And then fast forward to three days later, the deluxe album unlocks as well. So if you've already pre-saved and you order the album on the 22nd, you're going to automatically get that. So this is my first time sharing that. And the reason I'm saying that, because one of my favorite songs is on that, on the deluxe album. And it's called Lowe. And it's featuring an artist named Diamond Platinum's. And he's from Tanzania. And I'm just,

I'm just in my Africa bag right now. And so the energy that comes from that song is so exciting. And so refreshing for me, for creatively, it's so melodic. It's so feel good. It's like everything I could want in a song is in that song. And it's the perfect, it's like the perfect production of what I was hoping to make when I went in the studio to finish that record. and to make it all come to life. So that's one of my favorites.

No, I'd love to throw this conversation back to 2004, which was when your first album came out, as well as the beginning of my personal love for hip hop and R&B. I was raised on, like, good sort of that like soulful music. My dad loved to listen to it. So that's like what we listened to in the car. And then it just led me right into that early 2000s, like the late 90s, early 2000s, hip hop and R&B is still,

to this day, my go-to in the car. Like, when it's just me, I'm like, that's it. I also read that your song, Goodies, was originally called Cookies? Yeah, it was. Now, what went into the decision of switching that name? Well, back in the days in that time, there was, cookies was a hot word. There was a song, I think, from an artist in Miami. I don't remember the name of the artist at that time.

And cookies was a word that they were kind of coining, like, at that moment, right? And I liked it, but I was like, that's just not broad enough, right? I'm like, I think this is fun because, you know, you like to tap into, like, what's happening in urban pop culture. Like, that's always a ways of, like, making music. Like, sometimes you have that influence of what's happening in the streets. And I'm like, I like, I like this, but this is not, like, allowing me to stretch as far as I want to. like cookies is too limiting because the whole idea behind the song I was this little girl jumping on this um sofa in the studio and I was like who put the hands in the cookie jar

who meet yes you couldn't be then who I was playing with that whole thing and the analogy was like your love your cookies the cookie jar your love but it's like no it's kind of be broader than that and so I literally wrote around for like a month to like I would ride in my car and just sing every line of a song like every line of the hook like because I wanted to get you get every line right. Every line mattered to me. It's always a case in most cases. And I'm like, I just took my time and landed on the word goodies. You'll have to excuse my how naive I am about musical topics because I am not a musician and I own that fully. But I do think like the sort of quiet build of like my goodies and the G sound just it like hits like in a way that's so

smooth cuts through yes it like it feels good when i when you hear it um think about this my cookies my cookies see that feels choppy it's yeah it's like nice and smooth yes yeah so you nailed that decision thank you um i recently watched a clip of your daughter interviewing you um and when she said She called Missy Elliott, Auntie Missy. Yes. I could not stop smiling. I told you at the Gotham FC game that I saw you guys perform when you guys were in Philly. Yeah.

What is your friendship like with Missy Elliott? How does it feel to have someone like that who's so close to you in the industry with you? Missy is really one of a kind. You know, she, I'm so glad that I'm so glad that I met. her in my career when I did because she was one of those people that with all the success that she had and which I was so inspired from, she was never stingy with her wisdom. You know, she's always been a person that's been the same person since day one. And I think that was just a great example to see, you know, how you have to be. You've got to be like confident in who you are,

especially in this industry because if you're not, it will eat you a lot. I mean, that is the epitome of women supporting women, right? That you guys, there's space for everyone. There's room for both of you to exist and be successful, but also while lifting each other up. It's such a great example of that. I'd love to switch gears and talk to you about some football because we have that in common as well. For anyone listening who might live under a rock, your husband, Russell Wilson, is now with the Giants. I'll tell you the same thing I always tell Giants fans, we can see I to because we can collectively dislike the cowboys together. That's big facts.

I was like, I was going to open up with you. I was going to be like, because we know, I mean, I'm learning the territory of where I am. And obviously, you know, that blue and silver and white team is definitely a, you know, it's a good history. A nemesis. Yeah, we got a good history there. And then we also know to the Eagles, you know, there's, it's like the whole. whole history runs thick in this division. It does.

Right? So I was like, you know, listen, on this podcast, you and I, we cool, but you know. Yeah. That's how it would be, right? Because, I mean, listen, everybody in this region, like, is our diehard. Like, I've never seen it this thick where there's more than one. Really? Yeah, not really, where you see more than one back in.

Just like this close together. Well, yeah, I mean, for the most part. I think it's more so the energy of, like, this region, right? You know, like when we were in Seattle, we didn't have, yeah, when we were in Seattle, we didn't have like multiples. It was us and the Niners. Like, that was more like defined, you know, um, you know, and I'll just talk about that time period and skip to now. Um, but you know, it's, um, yeah, no, it's good stuff though. It's, I'm, we're locked in in this case for sure. Are you guys moved to New York? Are you guys enjoying the transition? Yeah, we're

How's it there? We are in New York and it's been so amazing. It's honestly been, you know, my dad's from New York. So I kind of got a little, I got a little New York in my blood already, you know? No, but being here has been amazing because the culture, the community, like, I've never seen this many playgrounds in a city. No, it's insane. Like, it's so joyful.

And seeing things from our kids' lens is really fun. So like my, our daughter, Sienna, she, she was packing, we were packing all their stuff. And then she pulls out this shiny pink outfit. And I'm like, Cici, we don't need all that. She's like, mom, we're going to New York. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, you know, she had her perspective on the moment. Sure.

Like, it's exciting. And I'm excited for the opportunity of diversity as well. You know, I'm excited for, you know, for us with football. you know how this thing is like this is his life is my life you know like we're connected when he's on the field I'm on the field oh yeah I say all this to say it's a super exciting time the giants you know uh franchises or you know is such a historic iconic franchise and so um I'm very excited for us to be a part of that and what their mission is to build there and you know just as you know it all starts there and just trickles down to what we do as a family. And I couldn't be more

pumped and optimistic about this time in our lives. Now, I have, I'm on record referring to football season as what I like to call single parent season. Just because the schedule is so, it's, it is hardy. It's beast. Isn't it? How do you guys manage that? Oh, yeah. So I like to do do what we call organized chaos right i call my like organized chaos it really is that way as you know and especially with the fellow schedule so we're really big on being intentional with our schedule and it's it's really that is simple from my perspective is that the schedule really is the you know the blueprint right it helps us to keep things in line like and the cool thing is with his schedule i can maneuver my world around his more because their schedules locked you know there's

Monday night football, Thursday night football, Sunday. You know, you know what to expect. And we see that schedule far in advance. So then I go, all right, like, for example, this is the craziest time. Originally, I had my album coming out in July because I was trying to beat everything before training camp and all that stuff. And then unfortunately, but fortunately for my fans, and I'll say for me creatively, I got to finish things up more.

You know, now I'm falling in the thick of everything preseason, which is like, I've never really done it that way before. And you know, like I know, we have our four precious babies. Oh, yeah. But the husband is the biggest baby to me. Like, that's my, that is my fifth baby right there, right? So it's like, I'm like, I'm all in on every aspect. And the schedule is what really helps make it make sense.

And then, you know, add this in there, Kylie, as you know, because I'm also like, I'm very hands on. So I feel like an octopus most of my life. I really do. I feel like my arms are like this, my feet. And then I feel like, there's never enough for me. Like, no. I, I've talked about this thing called the mommy choir.

And it's literally, mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy. Like all the kids. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. It's just not enough of me. Like, I feel like that more often than not. So I'm going from basically from a stage to the classroom to a doctor's appointment or to Russ's practice. Like, that's the sky full of my life. But if I didn't have a scale.

I don't even know. When Jason retired, we very much ended up in like a, we will now figure out our new norm. And it was so much more fluid that we had to be so intentional. And like you're saying about like your fifth baby, like you, you chose your husband because you love him. You want to make sure that you still get that time to support each other, to be with each other. And now we've just had to get so intentional about it. So the idea of like making sure that you carve out that time time. Yeah. It's it's really is so important. It is. You know, we also, what we've done traditionally since day one, since, you know, we were in each other's lives is every Friday night we do date night. It's so cute because we were like talking like about how many date nights have

we had, you know, we read a date I talk about it. I was like, this is sweet. Because you think about like that intentionality, right? Like you have to. And I'll be honest. I'm one of those moms. Like, when I hear my baby's voices, my heart gets weak because they, like, if I'm around the corner, I'm like, oh, I need to go, like, touch them or hold them or fill them. And then I'm also like, we have to take care of us, right, as women and moms because literally you are like an octopus every day of your life. Yes.

But also, like you said, the husband and wife, like the mommy and daddy time is important too, right? And there's something really magical about taking care of that part, you know, being able just be with each other, not forgetting to do that. Yep. Because it's easy to forget to do that with our precious babies. But there's something really magical about going top down with that and how it just pours into the house so beautifully.

That's why you mentioned Sienna doing her interview, you know, with me. It was so cute because she was like, was this album about love, romance. And I'm like, you know, because she sees. She witnesses it. Yeah, she sees the love. Right. And I was like, oh, well, that's so touching from, you know, when you step up. back and look at him like this is a really cute and funny moment this my young daughter is having but

I'm like that's so sweet and they always she gave me the eye roll when it's time for date night she's like you're going on on date night and I'm like yes it is funny what they catch it's funny what they like catch on to or latch on to because our second a few weeks ago Jason went to walk out of the house and she goes uh you didn't give mama smoochy kiss and I was like yeah get him get them get them back here so cute yeah but like it's one of those where like it's it's such like a routine and like a normal that that's her example that is set for her that she was like oh you forgot something and i was like yes thank you so much my little sidekick now the one thing that i am absolutely fascinated about just circling back to the NFL one more time because

you guys you and your husband have kind of become matchmakers is that right you posted a photo on tic-tok of you and your husband facetiming dk matcalf and normani yeah who just got engaged with the caption at russell wilson and i knew when we introed y'all three years ago love was truly in the air yeah so sweet first of all i have to shout the both them out we love them so dearly um obviously russ and dk they're like brothers and dk's like my brother's y'all like what up broski like when their face i'm like what up bro and our kids love them he's uncle dk in our house and then obviously normani's like a sister to me and i think that you know when you see an opportunity for someone to experience love especially in the way that you know it to be why not

you know and so um it was love at a game of cards for those two but i'll let them tell their story but let's just say russ and i were definitely we were like we need to make sure that these two get together and we'll let them take it away, you know? And so that is a beautiful, it's a beautiful thing when that happens like that. And so, yeah, we love, we love seeing people experience love. Like, we actually, it's really a fun thing for us. Like it's, you know, we'll be talking to someone and be like, babe, you know, we'll be good for her. You're like, you know, it'd be good for him.

Like, we do like that. Like, we love it, though. So give me some tips because I have had some guests on the show. I've had some people in my everyday. life who will say to me like I'm looking like if you think of anyone what are the things that you sort of like walk in on other than the obvious like complementary personality traits yeah I think it's like how a person carries themselves right it's like how do they um you know who what's what's what's what's their vibes right because you got to have a vibe match we need we got to have a vibe check

vibes got to be like parallel um I think too you kind of like here in conversation people People often say what they're looking for, and there's nothing better than when someone's intentional, right? Like when, like, D.K. was saying what he, like, wanted in his woman, and he was intentional. I'll just say that. So I'll leave it there because, again, I don't want to tell their story, but let's just say, like, it made sense. Like, okay, you know, and my friend Normani also knew what she wanted in her life, and they were at the perfect time in their lives. So I think that you've got a, compatibility is ever. everything, right? And I think that it's important to, like, know, like, the traits of people

and know, like, what their desires are. And then you just start to go, it start, the wires start to go, something starts to happen. Then all of a sudden, you're like, all right, you guys, take it away. So you're just offering the opportunity for them to let sparks fly. It's like, for example, when you want, when you want it love in your life, I'm assuming, you know, before you and Jason met, you know, I'm not sure how you guys met, but. On Tinder. Oh, did you really meet on Tinder? Yes. Did you really?

Yes. Oh my gosh. But okay, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, listen, I don't know how all these apps work. I don't know if Tinder was, Tinder was one of those, was that one those spicy ones? So Tinder was, Tinder was when we met on Tinder, it was like the bare minimum. You swipe left for no.

You swipe right for yes. Like, that's it. You don't get to backtrack. You never see those people again. It is, it was as simple as like, you know. yes or no. Yeah. That's good. Yes or no and four kids later. Right. It's all right. That was a good yes. That was a perfect yes in your lives. But you know, it's like, you know, I think that you have to like be clear though. I'm sure at that time you guys are both putting yourself in a place

where you were looking for love, right? You were, you were in that space. I fear we fell face first into it. We were, it was like what it was where we were just like, we were both just having fun. And then it was just like, oh, oh, wait. I like talking to you. You like this fun. Yeah. Can you guys believe I'm talking to Sierra right now, aka CC? Well, it turns out I coincidentally have another CC in my life. CC as in Sienna, as in the Toyota Sienna. What a segue, Queen Emma, you nailed that. I said it earlier. I might be done fighting the minivan fight for now because there's just too many things I enjoy about this car, it also doesn't help that Jason and the girls have been on board from the very start. They're the ones that really broke me down. And as you could probably guess,

my kid's favorite thing about the Toyota Sienna is hands down the multimedia screen. Now, in our car, there is the rule that the TV only works for long drives. It's crazy how that happens. I will tell you with three kids in the car that can voice their opinions clearly, it is such a joy to not be screamed at for most of an hour and a half drive to the beach. So shout out to CeC, my Sienna. If you're still thinking about joining me on this minivan adventure, head to your local Toyota dealership today to go for a test drive. You can also head to Toyota.com backslash Sienna for more information.

we're both moms of four. How old are yours now? Crazy. I have, all of our babies are the spread apart three years in time. So that's very nice. Yeah, Amor is one, soon to be two in December, when just turned five, CNS eight, and then features 11. What's your age gap? We have two years, we have 17 months in between the first two. And then just about, two years for the other one so we have five soon to be six four two and four months god bless you thank you god bless you because that's like having twins at some point when you have that small gap like that yes right yeah it is very much so oh my gosh now one of the things that i get asked as a mama for often is for like motherhood advice for some reason people think that because i

have four children that I know what I'm doing. And I have said countless times, I don't. I am winging it as hard as I was winging it when I had our first. Yeah. So do people lean on you and sort of come to you seeking advice because you are a, an experienced, a more experienced mom? Yeah. You know, I do get questions sometimes. And I think to your point, you know, listen, there's no perfect. way to parent. To me, the most perfect way is just like in all the imperfections. Like, that's in love, you know, as well. But yeah, I definitely get asked, you know, my thoughts on it. And I'm honestly, like, as much for as long as I've been doing this mama thing, I'm still finding my way. I'm like, what are we going to do today? Like, and then plus my age gaps are so significant. So then

you have the eldest who wants to play a certain way. And then the youngest, you know, wants to just being go-go-gagga land. It's like, what the heck? No, I have talked a lot about the reality of postpartum on the show, calling out stuff like bouncing back after pregnancy and things that I just I think are a little dated. I recently saw the clip that you posted where you said, my four babies bless me with these stretch marks. Why am I going to cover them up? Yeah. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I love that. Have you always embraced sort of the changes of motherhood? You know, I had to find my way in it, especially like the beginning with the stomach stretching. Like that's something that's like, my gosh, like my stomach will never be the same.

Isn't that a moment? That was a moment for me where I was like, oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. We're here now. Yeah, we're here. Oh, we're here. So let's embrace it. Yeah. And I have diastas recti. So, you know, that's where the ab muscle split for those that don't know they're watching, the ab muscle split. And there's a disconnection from like the muscle and the tissue and everything in your belly. So like if I lean forward, it like everything's going forward with me. You know, it's like all that. And then to your point with the stretch marks, it's funny because years ago, I, you know, I always would get stretch marks. I'm not years ago, but in pretty much every pregnancy, I would get stretch marks. And this last time I didn't do this one thing. I tried. tried. I used to get stretch mark removal. Okay. And so not all your stretch marks go away, but it did help me out a good bit with some spots. But I'm like, you know what? These are my beauty marks. Like that's where my whole inspiration from beauty marks came from. So yes, you know, I finally have turned the corner on embracing those imperfect marks on my body because they do tell the story. They are part of like, you know, who I am. Like, and I can't change those things.

like those things actually like have like depth to them like in reference to where the marks come from there is honestly something so beautiful in that progression like you're like you sharing that you previously have tried to remove them or lessen them a little bit that that I think it's really important to recognize that like nobody expects you to push out a baby and have these physical changes and look at yourself in the mirror especially postpartum bodies are so it's to me I find it jarring and I've done it four times every single time I'm like getting dressed postpartum is an absolute nightmare it is because you're like oh the baby is out uh like I should be able to fit in my jeans again and you just you don't and I truly think like it is not when when

we talk about like getting to a point where you can appreciate the way your body has changed the stretch marks that you now have, it is so important to recognize that it's not that you push the baby out and you looked at your body and you were like, you know what? I still got it. Because I don't think if you had that experience, amazing, that was not mine. It took me until probably after my third baby to be like, you know what? My stomach is never going to look the same. And that's okay. Because the tiny humans that I have created with my body, you just have to sit in like this moment of gratitude, right? Oh my gosh.

100%. Wouldn't have it any other way. But it is a build. Like you might not have that the moment that you realize your body has changed. Yeah. But you can get there. Now, speaking of our postpartum bodies as women, I read that you put a lot of thought into what your first drink would be when you were done breastfeeding.

Oh, yes. And to that point, it led you to co-owning your own rum brand 10 to 1. Yeah. Tell me more about that. Yeah, no. So back in the pandemic, I, it's funny because I just thinking about this whole my album process, I've realized that I've now had two babies in the process of making this album. I just thought about that. But back in the pandemic, it was crazy, as you know, especially with guys playing football. Like, the schedule was all kind of weird. Like,

it was wonky just everywhere. And I will say one of the greatest blessings was being able to have a healthy baby during that time. And I was able to have a healthy baby during that time. And I was able to have more time than normal with my babies and my family. And that's the part that I really, really appreciated the most. But I also breastfed 10 months long enough. And so it was time for your girl to celebrate that moment. Okay. And I actually had my first drink post-pregnancy, I'm sorry, post-prepregnancy and breastfeeding. And it was a mojito with 10 to 1 white rum in it. And when I tell you that this mojito was hit tins. It was hit in.

Now, I do not often drink because I swear that some, like, I'm a Shirley Temple girl. Okay, I love Shirley temples. And like, every time I go to the bar and I order a Shirley Temple, they're like a dirty Shirley. I'm like, no, no, don't put anything. Like, don't ruin it with that. Don't mess it up. Keep a classic. So maybe a mojito is where I need to lean in here.

Mojito is fire. Okay. Aramarita. Okay. Thank me later. Just call me. Here's the deal. I've tasted tequila maybe twice, and it was not for me.

It was not. Okay, so this is for you. Let me tell you. I could be it. I can try this. No additives also. No additives in the rum as well. It's so smooth.

I promise you you would love. Yeah. Okay. I will give it a try. Let's go. I cannot thank you enough for coming on. I'm not going to lie today. You are such an incredible example of a strong, powerful businesswoman, a mom.

Like you said, the. octopus with the tentacles out every direction juggling everything it is so incredible and um like i said such a fan of you for such a long time this is incredible oh thank you so much kiley i mean this is really this has been a treat for me too and um you know from one one football mom um or you know wife or whatever you want to call it um to another very proud of you um and your journey as well in this space. I think it's so great when us women are out here figuring it all out. We don't have the perfect code or, you know, a way to do things, but we make it happen. And you're a solid and clear representation of that. And, you know, Jason's got a real one in

his house. So thank you so, so much for having me. This is really fun. And yeah, I look forward to just watching you. Keep doing your thing. Keep shining. Thank you. Thank you so much. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Sierra on my YouTube channel on Moorship Monday. Her new album, CC, is officially out August 22nd. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media at NGL with Kylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast.

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