Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce - Kylie & Jason on Their Most “Toxic Traits,” Girl Dad Glow Ups & Singing Pirate Shanty Lullabies | Ep. 72

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

Jason’s back joining Kylie for her 2nd Annual Jersey Shore special episode of Not Gonna Lie brought to you by Allstate! Who better to talk about all things shore, kids, EAF and pirate shanties than ...everyone’s favorite bearded, flip-flops-wearing guy from The Other Podcast! Kylie starts the show by reminiscing on Jason’s speedo moment from last year’s guest bartending event and Jason reveals what crazy stuff he has planned for this year (00:47). They then answer 6-ish questions from the Real Ones in honor of Shore Birds Year 6 including if the mouse problem has sped up the cat timeline (16:01), how they handle sassy three year olds (13:41) and what Jason got for Father’s Day. Then, Kylie and Jason talk about the best doomscrolls they’ve come across like all the fun TikToks of World Cup soccer fans enjoying American cities (23:28) and something called “The Girl Dad Effect" (28:50). We also hear about what it was like for Jason to squat Travis at The Other Podcast’s live show (40:55), Kylie’s favorite Jason viral outfits, what Jason likes to sing to the girls (36:25) and their ideal date night down the shore. Kylie then plays a game of “guess that drink” which involves her throwing various drinks at a blindfolded Jason’s face as he has to guess what it is! (47:54) Kylie’s then joined by one of her closest friends and Eagles Autism Foundation Executive Director Ryan Hammond (57:34) to talk about Kylie’s involvement with the organization and how parents can use EAF resources (1:00:35). Ryan and Kylie also play a game of “Truth or Flip” another excuse to get one of Kylie’s friends to share embarrassing stories about her (1:04:30). You can donate to the Eagles Autism Foundation and contribute to the Kelces’ over 1 million dollar goal here: https://haku.ly/458c2cadad You can find even more clips from Kylie’s longer conversations with Jason and Ryan on our YouTube channel on More Sh*t Monday. . Once again, LINK TO DONATE TO EAF!!! https://haku.ly/458c2cadad Purchase Brand New NGL Merch: https://www.nglkylie.com Support the show: Allstate: Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You’re in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary. Subject to terms, conditions, & availability. Allstate North American Ins. Co. & affiliates: Northbrook, IL. DoorDash: When life gets crazy, DoorDash helps bring some order to it. Order Now. https://www.doordash.com/ Sunglass Hut: Visit Sunglass Hut and find your perfect pair for Summer. Sunglass Hut – Own Your Moment. https://www.sunglasshut.com/us  Oura Ring: Discover how Oura can help you better understand your health. https://ouraring.com/store/rings/oura-ring-5  CVS: Go to https://CVS.com/app  to learn more and download app now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Wayfair, every style, every home. It's just a speedo. Perfectly normal beach attire. He likes to sing Pirate Chanties. I do like to sing Pirate Chanties. Oh, had she but told me. How do you feel about Pepe de Lepew? I think he's adorable.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I feel like that would be more of my... I think he's adorable. Aesthetic. Haven't had a Father's Day gift yet. I look forward to seeing what it is. It's a shirt. I really hope she said . You have to bleep that.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Oh, okay. You're a jerk. Kylie is a recording artist. You're such a butthole. Not gonna lie, we're back here at the Jersey Shore and we're trying to race some weather. See if we can do it. Let's get this podcast started.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Welcome Real Ones to our very special, second annual Jersey Shore episode of Not Gonna Lie, Wave Original brought to you by Allstate. As you can see, I'm back at one of my favorite places on Earth, the Ocean Drive in Seattle City, New Jersey. And as you can also see, I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. Proud lover of Seattle City, proud supporter and advocate of the Eagles Autism Foundation. You can actually donate now to help us reach our goal of over a million dollars. The link is in the description.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And proud wife to this flip-flop wearing bearded guy next to me who famously ripped his shorts off at last year's OD event. That's right. We're almost one year out exactly from the day that he pantsed himself and proceeded to wear a speedo for the rest of the event. It's a perfectly normal beach attire. Maybe in Europe. Europe. Miami, I think I've seen a bunch down there. For sure.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I don't frequent Miami. Definitely not specific to the Jersey Shore. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. You guessed it. It's my husband. Jason, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Hey, thanks for having me. This episode comes out the day after this year's Shorebirds event. Can you tell everyone what crazy shit you have planned? Because if there's going to be a breakaway situation, we want to know about it. Yeah, no breakaways this year. Last year, I lost a bet to Bo Allen. We didn't do the bet this year. So no breakaway speedo shorts.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Was that because you didn't want to lose? Correct. Okay. Yep. I think the Spito was good for a year. We can retire the Spito. I don't want to just do the same thing over and over again. You had to keep it fresh.
Starting point is 00:02:40 This year we're going to have a 250 gallon aquarium filled with beer. I love that you said it. You went into it like, yeah, super casual. We just have a massive aquarium of beer. Yeah. Yeah. It's called, we're calling it the beer aquarium. Naturally.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yes. And if the beer aquarium gets drank this week, emptied, we will be. be donating another $100,000 to the Eagles Autism Foundation. So drink up. So ensure responsibility to come to the Ocean Drive and drink as much beer as possible for families, autism, research, neurodiversion. Am I saying that right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I think that's right. If you come and you drink beer, we will only make a bigger impact on the autism community, their families, the programs, the research that are supported by the autism. Foundation. That's literally what he said, verbatim. He said those words, exactly. Obviously, garage beer is helping us out with that. UTS has a giant pool with, I think, a million cheese balls filled that people are going to bob for something in the bottom of it. I think golden beer. Golden beers, yes. So all in all, it'll be a couple days of debauchery as well as community and philanthropy, all combined together, my kind of favorite, coalescing things of,
Starting point is 00:04:09 yeah. Okay, we'll talk more about guest bartending, but coming up on today's Jersey Shore special, Jason and I are going to answer some of the most pressing, ask me some things questions sent in by the real ones, like what to do when your kids hit the three-nager stage and how difficult it was or wasn't to squat Travis at the other podcast live show. We also have a doomscroll clip that's inspired a game. Jason doesn't know where playing yet, and to be honest, neither do I. That's always a recipe for success.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And then I'm going to be joined by one of my best friends who also runs the Eagles Autism Foundation. She's going to embarrass me just like my college roommates did. It's the EAF executive director, Ryan Hammond. But before we get to all of that, a quick NGL announcement, as some of you may have already seen, yeah. I was in Disneyland Paris. A few days ago, taping a very special episode of the podcast
Starting point is 00:05:04 with a good friend of ours, Alona Mar. But none of you can keep a secret. So now people know. What you don't know is who I got to meet. No, you just said it, Alona Mar. No, I know Alona. I got to meet Olaf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Oh, no, no, bleep that. The rundown blatantly says, hint at it, but don't say it out loud. Bleep that. Bleep it! I got to meet someone who likes warm hugs. Whatever. But that's all I can say for now.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You gotta wait until next Thursday, July, second to watch our Disneyland Paris Spectacular. All right, that does it for today's announcements. Let's start things off with six-ish. Ask me some things. It's actually Ask Us Some Things. Questions from the Real Ones in honor of our year six of shorebirds.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Well done, Queen Emma. I see what you did there. Ask us some things is brought to you this week by Allstate. Number one, first up from the from at, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say people's names because then I always go to shit on that. Number one, first up from yeah, at Sunshine Sweetheart. I did it anyway.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I fucking did it anyway. Fuck you. Number one, first up. What's wrong with Sunshine Sweetheart? What? What's wrong with Sunshine Sweetheart? No, every so often we get it. into it and someone has like some weird ass like you can't tell where the first word ends and the second word starts the whole fucking thing yeah yeah yeah reading names is trash what did you get for father's day he doesn't actually know yeah he didn't receive it yet haven't had a father's day
Starting point is 00:06:41 yet unfortunately i was out of town on father's day yes which is not ideal uh but i look forward to seeing what it is um yeah i really hope she said really hope she said that really hope she said We have to bleep that. Oh, okay. God. Never mind. Okay. Now I'm sweaty.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Here we go. Next one. What's Kylie's best attribute? This is for me? You looked so. No, they asked me. That's a tough one to ask you. You have a lot of really good attributes.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Way to save it. And sometimes strengths can be weaknesses. I would say that you're a very, you're a very principled person and convicted human being and that allows you to stay true to who you are and what you stand for and understand what's right and wrong. And I think that all of those things are also things that I value. and love and appreciate about you and keep me headed in the right direction as well. And I would say that's your best attribute.
Starting point is 00:08:31 That was the kindest way to say that I'm bullheaded. I mean, at times for sure. No, there's definitely negative to that. But I would say overwhelmingly positive than negative. Thank you for that. That's very sweet. Queen Emma wants to know what's your least favorite? Lease favorite?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah. To be fair. whenever I'm asked the question and I'm sure you already know this, but whenever I'm asked the question, because I did say this on the other podcast, whenever I'm asked the question about my biggest pet peeve with you
Starting point is 00:09:00 or like the thing that like bothers me. Yeah. It's just that you're loud. Yeah. That's always my go-to. You're a loud person. Lease favorite. Did you hear that?
Starting point is 00:09:12 He didn't argue with me at all. I don't think there's anything to argue. He's so loud. I think I got loud. feet, loud breathing. I mean, there's not a lot of, I'd be a really bad ninja. The breathing doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:09:26 You'd be a trash ninja. Least. He's like, there's so many to choose. I would say my least favorite attribute is how particularly you are with foods.
Starting point is 00:09:47 This is perfect because I can't argue with that. Yeah, there's nothing to argue about. I mean, if anything is even remotely even close to the date, you want to throw it out. Correct. If anything's been sitting on the counter for like an hour. Also correct. You're like, nope, that's been sitting out. Or I put it in the fridge, which.
Starting point is 00:10:08 If I try and make anything, I know that you kind of want to eat it. But at the same time, you know that I probably put zero sanitary efforts into cooking it. I mean, he probably didn't even wash his hands. It was cooked, though. It's going to be like the bacteria gets killed in the flame. Yeah. So it's how it works. What I will say is is that and I've said this multiple times that you, since we have been together,
Starting point is 00:10:36 you've helped me like step out of my comfort zone in a lot of ways. Like the idea of like you make your partner better. For sure. You've helped me like be more open minded when it comes to food. And I think there's a number of times during our relationship, like even when we were just dating. where I ate something where you were like surprised that I ate it. Yes, for sure. Number three.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Next question is clearly more Dallas rage bait. If Jason was traded to the Cowboys, would you have had a Cowboys Kelsey Jersey? You would have. Well, I would have had to. Yeah, that's part of the requirements. Yeah. I won't.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I mean, I didn't. Here's the deal. This is actually a super easy question because I didn't even wear, I've never put on a Kelsey Eagle's jersey. Okay. So this is actually really easy question. I'm going to take the loophole on this one. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:11:30 If we have, well, I guess we only have daughters right now. If we ever had a daughter that became a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader as much as I hope that that does not happen. No offense to anybody. I will gladly wear anything to support them. I think that I get that you don't want to wear Dallas stuff. I get that there's like a whole Philly moniker out here. I think it's really important to show support for people that you love. And that goes deeper than my love of the Cleveland Browns or any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Okay. That's fair. Luckily, we didn't have to find out. Next up, number four, what's the best part of being a girl dad and what's the hardest part? Best part for me, it was only Trave and I growing up. So I've never been around tiny women outside of like elementary school. And even then they had cootie. So I wasn't really talking to them.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So I just think how adorable they are, how much you get to play with them, how much you get to see them learn and grow. Like Benny's in a great stage right now because she's like, just old enough to really start articulating what she has in her head and what she's thinking, but she's still young enough that everything is kind of amazing. So like every little thing she kind of like picks up on and she's starting to go out of that age a little bit. But that's my favorite stage when they're really like in awe of the world and they want to talk about everything and things that you take for granted.
Starting point is 00:13:25 on like a really regular basis are, I guess, like, put more in the forefront of your mind. So you get to experience the world again through the lens of like a tiny human who's just doing it for the first time. Is there anything that you can point out is the hardest part of being a girl dad? I feel like that's still going to, that's down the road. I haven't experienced that yet. Right now, there's not a lot of negative sides to girls. I think those are going to come.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Like when we're all synced up. Yeah. The worst case scenario is, is if we end up as like a chain reaction period house, which means that at least one person every week of the month has their period. Oh, God, we're going to have so much fun. Yeah. Teenage years are not going to be fun for a lot of those reasons. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:23 That's fair. Number five. Next one is someone seeking out parenting advice. So let's see how this goes. Hi, Kelsey's. We are in the three-nager straight-up sassing everyone phase. Is this normal? What is it?
Starting point is 00:14:39 The three-nager? She described it as the three-nager straight-up sassing-every-one phase. I mean, I love that stage. Who doesn't? I love a sassy three-year-old. That's hilarious. That's Bennett right now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. Benny's, Benny, well, she's not always sassy. I think she goes in ebbs and flows, where she is like the sweetest thing ever. But she definitely struggles with the concept of sharing
Starting point is 00:15:08 and taking her turn on things. She goes from being like the funniest person on the planet and like holding court and like being somewhat of like a stand-up comedian. Yes. And then the moment, two moments like she's mad that they're laughing at her. Pissed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Absolutely furious. Yeah, none of it makes sense. And there's no knowing like what the breaking point will be. That's the craziest part because she'll go and she'll go and she'll riff and she'll keep running. And then all of a sudden you're just like, that's what got you. Now you're, now you're crying. No, this is my favorite stage. I'm all in.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I like emotion on their sleeves. How do you respond to when they act a little bit sassy to you? Well, describe, is sassy like throwing a temperate tension or a sassy? I think Sassy is sort of like trying to get their way. I let it ride. I like when I think it's really easy when kids are having their emotions on their sleeves and outwardly telling you how much they hate your goods. I can solve that.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I can tell how much I love them and diffuse that situation very easily. And we're still on the stage where all of our kids are doing that. I fear more when kids are dejected and like actually not being said. sass it up. Let me know how much you're hurt by somebody taking your stuffed animal. We can solve that issue. But don't go to a corner and not
Starting point is 00:16:36 tell anybody and let it stew. That's when it's like a major issue. Okay. And last one for now. Do you think Kylie or Queen Emma planted the mice in the kitchen to speed up Project Cat? Well, it hasn't sped the project up. So if it is, Operation Failed. Yeah. I feel like we have a very good time frame for when the cat is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And it will, I'm staying true to that timeline. How quickly, because there have been quite a few times where you've either been like at work or like on a trip where I've texted you like, I'm going to get a cat. How quickly do you make the connection between that and oh, Kylie saw a map? mouse in the house. Oh, instantaneously. It is the tell of like, I'm headed to the shelter to get a cat. He's like, where did you see the mouse? Where were the mouse droppings? He knows that that is a massive trigger for me because I'm an animal person. I'll pick up spiders. I'll pick up spiders. I'll take them outside. You can't say you're an animal person if you have that much disdain for animals. Well, to be fair, when the one mouse had to be squee squashed, I did call on you.
Starting point is 00:17:54 you. Yeah. I'll squish mice. Mouse? Nope. I'll squish mice. Got to catch them pretty quick. Got to catch them first. You know who would catch a mouse? Cat. Yeah. Is it still barn cat or bust? Because I did tell you about the PSPCA has the barn cat program. Like, what are we calling a barn cat? The barn cat is basically,
Starting point is 00:18:24 an inside outside cat, a cat that's really there to control pests, one that doesn't necessarily want to be your BFF, but is there to do a job? Yeah, I mean, that's certainly what I would prefer in a cat, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, if we're really trying to eradicate mice, there are individuals whose entire professions will... No, no, we have an exterminator.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, that is going to deter the mice situation far more than cats. Jason. I grew up with a cat in the house and I couldn't tell you how many times I saw a mouse in the house that I grew up in. Sure. I just really don't like mice. I don't know what it is. The way they scurry.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It's so gross. Okay, that's it for Ask Us Some Things Part 1, brought to you by Allstate. We'll answer some more later, but right now let's talk about the reason we're here in places Kylie has some business being. This week, I actually have a lot of business being right here at the same. the Ocean Drive in CIO and Jason has even more business being here because it's our big EAF fundraising. I guess it's, I would say it's 48 hours. It's our 48 hours of fundraising for Team 62. We're in year six of this event. Yep. How much have things changed since the first event
Starting point is 00:19:44 guest bartending here at the OD? Well, the first year, I think, I don't even know. Was it just me? Yes. Yeah. I mean, the first year, it was just one person. We were at, actually like serving drinks. Yeah. Wasn't that wild? Yeah. And how do you think your bartending skills are? I think I'm very good at beer and most normal mixed drinks.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Okay. And I think when I'm here, I'm like freaking ready to move and shake. So I think I'm a good bartender. Yeah. Okay. I'd be terrible if you ask me to make like a, Manhattan or like something of like higher scale or class. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:28 That's not what I will be able to execute. You're like a rum and coke kind of guy. Anything that comes from a little squirty gun, if I can fill it up with that and well liquor, I can make you a concoction. Yeah. Easy. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:40 What's the craziest thing you've signed over the years? I feel like there have been a number of weird items here. We ran into the baby yesterday. The baby yesterday. Yep. Yep. At the arcade. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's right. wall back there, what was it? Maybe two or three years ago? Had, I mean, the baby was maybe three. How much more community do you get? For sure. No, it was, that was definitely a fun one. Obviously, babies are not allowed in the venue.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Correct. So that was a reach over the wall, you know, Simba moment. Then I'm pretty sure I've signed an amputated leg here. Nearly positive. Why not? I'm trying to, there have been a bunch of odd items. The craziest part about that is there is not a single person in the Philadelphia area that just heard that and didn't, like, didn't bat nine. Standard.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I mean, that is just about as Eagles fan as it gets. Yes. I think there have been a ton of other really interesting ones, but those are probably the two that stand out the most. For the second year in a row, I'm also putting on a yoga class where donations will benefit EAF. Jason will you be taking the class again this year? It's a little later in the morning. He had no idea we were doing. Yeah, I mean, it almost later in the morning makes me less likely.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, it's like just means it's going to be hotter at that time. It's so fair. That's really fair. Okay. It was very hot last year. I also full, like I tore my hamstring last year running. Yes, you did. Almost all the time when I'm tearing muscles, it's because I have stretched.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I am very notoriously anti-stretching, which my back does not. appreciate, but for some reason, I just find myself getting injured less when I don't stretch. Okay. So I know that goes against every, I think scientifically, like every, what's the, what's the study of people that study exercise? Kinesiology? Yes. Or human movement or something? Study of movement is kinesiology.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, I think they would all like unanimously disagree with me. Okay. Well, Jason might not be there, but I will be because we're doing yoga. tomorrow at Excursion Park right over there just behind us. Shout out to Stride Fitness here in CIL City and also Lulu Lemon for their generous donation and partnership for this event. We're so excited to do it a second year. It's such a great way to kick off the day. And it will actually roll us right into our All Abilities series with EIF. We will have some yoga, some football happening there as well. And All Abilities means that kids both typical and
Starting point is 00:23:23 and neurodivergent can participate in the same clinic. It's absolutely outstanding. An instance in which a lot of families find that it's the only place where both of their kids or multiple kids can participate together as a family. So it's a very exciting event. We're so excited to be kicking off all these events for this year. Even if you can't make it in person, you can donate to EIF and contribute to our hopefully over $1 million goal. Again, the link is in the description. And guys, it could just be as little. as little as $5. It still gets us closer to our goal. We really appreciate any donation. Moving on, let's get right to Doom Scroll the week. Doom Scroll is brought to you this week by
Starting point is 00:24:01 CVS. All right, first scroll, one of my favorite corners of the internet this summer has been World Cup soccer fans, trying American things for the first time. And these English fans discovered water ice. Nice. Yes, guys. So we've had our Philly Chief State. Readers. Readers. Readers. He did say water ice, if you heard that. I've definitely not tried it already, so it's going to taste. Great choice, by the way. He got mango. Sucking up flavors, pop in your mouth, refreshing a hot day, doing this a 9 out of 10. Oh, and I've gone for the lemon one.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So I actually haven't tried this one, so we'll give it a shot. He says it's better than lemonade, by the way, which really blows my mind. Watch. That is like a lemonade, but 10 times better. I'll go for 9.2. 9.2, strong. Top tier spot. Top tier.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah. Okay. Now, what water ice flavor would you have recommended them? I think the mango is the one. Right? Yeah, that's the most universally liked and loved flavor. Mm-hmm. I think everybody has like their own, but that's the one that I think most people identify as the best one.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Or one that's really good. If you had to suggest one thing for the World Cup fans coming into Philadelphia, into Philadelphia to try, what would it be? Obviously, they said that they had just tried a cheese steak, which I think is kind of a staple. But is there anything else that's a little more obscure that you think people should be trying? Oh, man. I mean, a lot of people like roast pork sandwiches. I think it's definitely...
Starting point is 00:25:35 He doesn't because he doesn't like broccoli raw. Yeah, I'm not a broccoli rod. You can get it with spinach, by the way. And I'll give a caveat. I've had broccoli rod that I like. But I think in general, I'm not a huge... You also don't like sharp provolone. So a typical roast pork sandwich in Philadelphia is roast pork shaved very thin.
Starting point is 00:25:51 then sharp provolone and broccoli rob. You don't like broccoli rob and you also don't like sharp provolone. I don't mind sharp provolone. I would rather have regular provolone. I think that is another iconic Philadelphia sandwich. That's a great call. Their hoagie rolls are going to be better than any place else. And when you go back to the other places that you are and you're getting a hoagie roll,
Starting point is 00:26:18 you're going to make out of this really just there wasn't a lot of thought or care. put into it. Now, since you're not on TikTok regularly, I do want to inform you what the, a couple other things are that the World Cup fans are, that are just blowing their minds. Yeah. Number one, free refills on drinks. I've seen some of those videos. Blowing their minds. Yeah. Which is hilarious to me. Yes. Chips and salsa being brought to the table for free at a Mexican restaurant that they come out like with the menus to be like, okay, here are your chips and salsa. What would you like to order? Do they have, who's infatuated? with this. Like, I'm assuming the...
Starting point is 00:26:53 I think the marketing concept of you order food and you get chips and salsa to the table. I guess, but what I'm saying is what... Are Japanese fans, thank you. That's what I'm like, there's no way that Mexican fans are coming to the U.S. I think the whole point is it's like the idea of having some type of free item.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yes. Yeah. Because that's what the free refills is doing. Well, I'll tell you this. That takes us to bread baskets because they're endless and they're free. I'll also say this. Just so you know, there's nothing free. You're paying for it, whether you know it or not. Yeah. They'll advertise it under the concept. They marked up all of the other things you're purchasing to make sure that you can cover
Starting point is 00:27:30 costs on that. This is classic capitalism marketing, Japanese and foreign. And we have mastered it here in America. You may think you're getting something for free. In fact, you are paying for it. The other thing that, the one thing that makes my heart happy that apparently visitors are absolutely fascinated with is ranch dressing, which hell yeah, we have it. Yeah. And to hell yeah, it's delicious. If you have not, French fries, also pizza. Pizza. Things that you would not think to dip in ranch, dip it. I know overseas, at least in Europe, they do a lot of mayonnaise, which would make sense that they also like ranch. I feel like those are, they're both white and creamy. Yeah, I guess that's the right word.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Trave's going to love that. I think, I don't know if Trave likes ranch. I don't know if Trave likes ranch. Or not. I feel like he doesn't. He doesn't like most of those. There's no way. He doesn't. There's no chance he eats it. But he'll do aoli's, which is weird. I don't understand. Because aoli is fancy and he's fancy. Well, Aoli just has garlic. Isn't the only difference between aoli and mayonnaise just that it has garlic? Not every aoli has garlic. Only a garlic aoli has garlic. I don't think that's true. And Aoli is like a homemade mayonnaise. Can we look this up, please? Yeah. The primary difference is that traditional aoli is, oh, is an emulsion of garlic. I mean, I kind of knew I was right. Then why are they calling it a garlic aoli?
Starting point is 00:28:54 For people that don't know, for people that don't know aoli as garlic, maybe it has more garlic. Because people are, because people, you, it's classic American capitalism marketing. Honestly. I'm going to dive into that a little bit more later because I'm still not 100% commitment. When in doubt, doubt it. Okay. Next scroll, there's a new trend on TikTok called the girl dad effect. And this is about to be very self-explanatory. Queen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I'm going to watch this. It says, my husband before the girl dad effect. It's just a man. Okay. Did anybody notice anything? Turns out I'm actually going to need an explanation. Is it supposed to be that he's...
Starting point is 00:29:47 Oh, okay. Did he? Both of us are like... Start that again. Where? I think he just looks more mature. The only difference is that he added a beard. Like that's literally, he took his glasses off and has a beard now.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Hold up, hold up. What do you say about a beard? Huh? What do you say about a beard? It's a makeup for men. It hides a lot of flaws. Why do you think I have this? Yeah, I have not seen that.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Speaking entirely based off of our own house, I don't necessarily know that it's girl dad specific, but I do think that your spouse becoming a dad and getting to watch them move into fatherhood is hot. It's hot. I think women find attractive a man that either has a child, like a child, like dogs. We actually planned that flyover. Military exercises.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah. That was a flyover for us. I think the act of like caring for another living thing is attractive. Yes. Yes. Yes. for women to know that this human being is capable of assisting. That was a bad flyover formation because they shouldn't be that far apart.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I mean, I don't know. I don't know what they're doing, what they're practicing. There was a similar trend of women showing their partners glowups that we talked about on the show. But I am on record saying that you did not have a glow up because you've always been handsome. What is a, so the glow up is again in reference to the having daughters? No, the glow up that we.
Starting point is 00:31:40 talked about previously was basically like your spouse having a glow-up since when you met them to them like being your actual spouse like maturing like like aging like fine wine and i said that you didn't necessarily have a glow-up because you've always been handsome what do you think about that take do you think you had a glow-up i think i've lost weight which definitely is good now looking back in old photos okay i think that um there's some really bad photos of me when i I was young in my career. I did. I did mention.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I would shave my eyebrows with a razor. Mm-hmm. And now you just let it ride. No, I'll pluck the middle of them, but yeah. Now, speaking of that video, Jason, a while ago, you said you might have to bring the mullet back. I can't bring the mullet back, no. Still thinking about it?
Starting point is 00:32:35 I would love to, but my hair's thinning too much. I can't do long hair anymore. Do you think? Mm-hmm. You don't think that would work? Um, no, I don't think it would work. My hair just doesn't have the same texture that it used to, unfortunately. Okay. I will say that you've gone quite gray. My hair in the back still isn't gray. I haven't wearing, I'm aging like a skunk. Have you checked the back of your head? Have you looked at the back of your head? I'm looking at it right now. I can see the back of your head. Okay. Gray. Is it gray back? Very. Oh. Your salt and pepper in the back of your head. I always knew I was salt and pepper here. It goes all the way around.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm like salt and pepper in certain parts of my beard. Out here. I'm a two-toned. How do you feel about Pepe Lepew? I think he's adorable. I feel like that would be more of my aesthetic. And whatever it is, I'm into it. Whatever's going on in your head, I'm into it.
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Starting point is 00:35:24 I don't know how to answer that question. Would you ever let the girls give you a pedicure? I don't think so. Okay. I know that I've seen a lot of the guys do like the nail paintings and things and I don't particularly have a desire to do. I can bond with them. In other ways. Yeah, I'll play Barbie dolls with them. Sure. I also just don't like the, like.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Feeling. I don't like the smell. Oh, yeah. The smell and nail polish, I am like, it just is like, it's very tough. Now, another real one also asked in relation to the flip flops, are there any places that you will not wear flip flops? Any places I won't wear flip flops, places that don't allow flip flops, which which turns out are quite a few, especially if it's a nicer place.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Any place I'm going to have to walk a lot. Like if I'm at a sporting event, if there's any place where I feel like there's a chance I might have to run or defend myself, then I'm probably... Or you? Thank you. Yeah. I'll have to... I'd probably wear close-toed...
Starting point is 00:36:34 foot attire. Okay. Some of you might be thinking to yourself, there's no way he wears them through the airport because sometimes you have to take your shoes off to go through TSA and you know what I'd say to you? Wrong. I mean, is there an easier way to take your shoes off than having flip flops? It's literally, it just makes sense.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Did I just change my answer? I have to bend down and untie my shoes, put them on a conveyor belt. walk through, take them off, time again. This sounds like so much more work. Are on the airport floor. Every other animals bare feet are walking all over the entire earth. Yeah. Next question.
Starting point is 00:37:22 What are his favorite songs to sing with the girls? Five Little Ducks, Hop Little Bunchies, absolutely not. He likes to sing Pirate Chanties. I do like to sing Pirate Chanties. I do like to sing Pirate Chanties. My favorite. And the girls, so much so that the girls asked for it, we were just down here a couple weeks ago and the girls were asking for them in the car.
Starting point is 00:37:43 That's the beauty of a call and response thing. For a very long time, it was. Who doesn't love call and response songs? What was Wyatt's song? Well, really Ellie was the one that liked it the most was, was, leave her, Johnny Leaver. Not the Pirate Chanty. What was Wyatt's song? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:04 You're talking about the, um, uh, weekend. We can't box Texas. That was when she was a very young. Yes. Yes. When I would play Lukanbach, Texas, why- It's the only time she would stop losing your shit.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I could get her to stop. During the be witching hour. Most of our kids I'll find a song that I can realize, like if I play it or sing it, they'll stop cry. I think the key is, is that when Jason plays a song for them, he'll sing along to it or he'll get to a point where he doesn't even have to play it on his phone, he can just sing it. And he has such like a nice low tone to his voice and it's so smooth. when he sings to them, that it sort of like, I think just like snaps them out of whatever freak out they're having.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I mean, it's usually the song particularly. It's very rare that I can sing it like acapella and get them to stop crying. But if I, for Wyatt, if I played Luggenbach, Texas, for whatever reason, she would stop crying. She would. If I played blue by the Fleetwoods, Finney will stop crying or would. Yes. which is the only reason blue was higher than Taylor's album this year on my Spotify playlist but the yeah I would say I do that I also sing a song that's super morbid from the ballad of Buster Scruggs
Starting point is 00:39:22 you want me saying it well I don't know what your song you're talking about until you do it let me see if I can do this right now for some reason I'm blanking on it um as I was a walking down by the lock As I was a walking One morning of late Who should I spy But my own dear comrade Roped up in flannel
Starting point is 00:39:51 So hard is his fate I boldly stepped up to And kindly did ask him Oh, why What is it? Kind of asking. Why do, do, do, do white. My body is injured and sadly disordered.
Starting point is 00:40:16 All by a young woman, my own heart's delight. Oh, had she but told me when she disordered me, had she but told me of it at the time, I might have got salts or pills of white mercury. Now I'm cut down in the height of my prime. Get six pretty maidens to carry my coffin. Six pretty maidens to bear up my paw. and give to each of them bunches of roses.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So they may not smell me as they go along. Good night. I hope you don't smell the rotting corpse through these roses. Right. No, I like that song, The Cape by Guy Clark. some of the Fleetwood songs, anything that sounds like lullaby-ish, I would sing a lot of the girls
Starting point is 00:41:36 when they're in the crib at night? Number three, the next question is actually a tweet. Yeah. No one's asking the question watching this clip that should be asked. What should be asked? Is at NGL with Kylie good? Your man is strong.
Starting point is 00:41:57 You were squatting your brother. Yeah. Now, I actually didn't know this happened. Please. This is before I was done here. Which feels a little silly to squat him. Were you waking him up the claws? I was trying to get warmed up.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's right. There it is. There it is. I was just sitting on a couch talking to Wilfaro for 30 minutes, so wanting to get the legs warmed up. Yeah. Wake it up so they can fire. Yeah, this was, honestly, this is a big part of the training to dunk was utilizing a technique called PAP post-activation potentiation, which all that means is you lift a heavy weight.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And then right after lifting a heavy weight while your central nervous system is primed, you go directly into an explosive jumping mechanic movement so that all of your muscles and nervous system are ready to jump as high as possible. So you're like training your system to recruit as many muscle fibers to train to be able to jump higher. So this is like similar to a baseball player putting like a donut on the end of his bat and warmups. Like he's going to make the bat feel heavier so that when he takes the donut off, the bat feels lighter and he can swing it faster. So that was what I was attempting to do there. Travis is only 200 and maybe 70 pounds tops. So you knew you could squat him. You had confidence in that.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, I mean, I injured my quad squatting 670 pounds. So I felt pretty confident I could squat them. Two and a half, Travis's. Yeah, that was not going to be hard. Now, you also, another question about the other podcast live show this week. Yeah. What did Kylie think of her husband's leotard golly fit? Now, this outfit that you're wearing is actually your bobsled unit.
Starting point is 00:43:58 That is my USA Bopsled Unitar. Unitar. Unitar. Unitar. Now, you've had quite a few viral outfits. I have been known for outfits, yes. So I would love to discuss what maybe your top three would be. And Queen and I was asking me to say a top three Jason viral outfits that I'm going to choose here. Oh, you're choosing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not choosing.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Okay. That makes sense. Do you want to pass? Is there an outfit in particular that comes to mind that you would like to pat yourself in the back for? My favorite outfit that I've worn as like a dress as. I don't even know what led to it. I'm trying to remember why I did it. Please tell me it's 51states from Halloween.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I knew as soon as he said dress as. That was my favorite. I mean, you nailed it. And also the amount of like investment you had. in that costume. First of all, it was because the game was on Halloween, I believe. I'm pretty sure that's what you did it. But still, it was a very unique. I don't remember. I think you referenced it on the podcast as well. Is that what it was? I believe so. Okay. Now, some of the options here are the cowboy look from the Johnson's wedding when you were in all black. That was looking fly.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It was viral. On TikTok, viral. The blueie two piece. Outstanding last year in Cannes. The green Vlor track suit. Shout out to Big Dom. Nice. Great choice. The NASCAR outfit that you just wore, the pit, being a pit crew member. With the helmet? No, the pit crew suit. Oh, the actual suit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People like that one.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Okay. The mummer suit, OG. That's the OG. Yes. The Speedo from last year, Shorebirds event. And your first Monday Night Football broadcast with the shirt. I'm assuming that's the shirt that yeah
Starting point is 00:46:00 you wear your buttons were screaming a little on your chest because your chest was like popping out yeah yeah yeah do you have one here that that particularly stands out because I got to pick a top three
Starting point is 00:46:10 from this list I mean the 50 first dates isn't on this woman that's my 50 or why do I always think it's 30 I don't know the bluey two piece I love because it's like hot dad the bluey one was great that was shout out to
Starting point is 00:46:21 and I also think it like surprised people that was a shout out to Jason Sadekis he turned me on to that company. Roosevelt or Roosevelt's or something like that. And I looked it up afterwards and saw that. I was like, that's a good one. The green valour track suit now,
Starting point is 00:46:35 I feel like it haunts you a little because it is painted on the wall in Philadelphia down on Jewelers Row and one other place of him dancing on the stage in the Valour track suit. That was probably the best GIF I've ever been a part of. For sure. And lastly,
Starting point is 00:46:50 what's your favorite date night agenda? Agenda? Yeah, like, What's the, what's the, what's the move? I mean, going to dinner, but like, what is agenda? So I, I'm going to throw a plot twist on here. Okay. What's our date night agenda for the shore?
Starting point is 00:47:05 Because I feel like there's one in particular that I find to be there. We do it maybe once a summer, maybe twice a summer. And it excites my soul. Once or twice a summer, we wait until our kids go to bed. And then I have our niece come over and watch and just sit in the house. There's an adult in the house. And then we sneak out and go to the arcade because the arcade's open until 11. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And that makes me happy. I love going to the arcade for date night. Okay, it's a fun. Because it's a great time. It is. And it doesn't get to happen often because quite frankly, I feel a little bit guilty. We go all the time, but usually you're there and you're trying to let Ellie or Y or Benny win something. So it's more for them.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Kid focus. Yeah. I like parents night out at the arcade. Yeah, I'll play pinball all day. That's it for Ask. because something's part two. Last thing before you go and I bring Ryan in, we actually have a surprise Doom Scroll clip.
Starting point is 00:48:01 This is related to the surprise game we mentioned, which we're still nervous about. Queen Emma, can you play him the clip, please? I know what game is. There's no way in hell that this man agrees to this game. I'm telling you right now. Essentially what happens is that you stand there with your mouth open and get drinks thrown at you
Starting point is 00:48:21 and then you have to like and figure out what drink it is. Do you think you're a guest? from beers, like blind taste test beers? For sure. Yeah. You think you could figure out which beer is rich? I don't know if I could do it this way. I don't, this. He's not going to agree to this way.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I don't know what's happening there. Okay, so you literally stand there and then I would throw a drink and you would basically like it would hit you and as it hits you, you would guess what it is. I mean, it sounds pretty fun. Yeah, you want to play this now? Is that what we want to do? We have drinks. Oh, McKenna has a snorkel. Snorkel mask for you.
Starting point is 00:49:00 A blindfold snorkel mask. We're doing this? Oh, we're, you're agreeing to this? Sounds fun. Oh my god. Now, as you can see, we're standing because that's right. Jason agreed to do this game. I'm not sure. Guy, I'm here to support you.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And they're not gonna liars. Real one. Real ones. Yep. Okay. All right. He's ready. I have a shot glass here of our first. First item. I'm hoping that's garage beer. Any other feedback?
Starting point is 00:49:40 No. You're just guessing garage beer. That's what I'm guessing this. And my hesitation should give you, it's leading. It's leading? My hesitation is leading. Okay, so it's not garage beer. Well, is it maybe a little?
Starting point is 00:49:56 Okay. The whole thing. Garage beer live? Wow, okay. Good job, Jason. Sorry. I thought, yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Okay. Oh, that one was actually a great shot. Oh my gosh, I know that looked good. Give it to me again. Is it buttery? No. I have it. I have it again.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Same thing. Oh, that was good. Oh, I'm sorry that one up your nose a little. Oh, good. It only helps. Gosh, why can't I think of the name of this? This is very easy. This is upsetting.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Can I get this? You know if you want a hit. Give me a hand. It is buttery. Buttery? It's buttery. It would be described as buttery with notes of butter. It is a glass of champagne.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Okay. Was it bubbly? Chardonnay. There we go. Now we're there. Chardonnay, I would not. I know people say it's butter. I would not say it's butter.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Sorry. That's what it was. Sparkling wine. It was not. Chardonnay is not. Chardonnay. Yep, okay. Here we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:51:18 This one, I apologize ahead. Okay. Nope. It's pickle juice. There's still. It's weird. But I actually feel better about that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:36 All right. Now I get another one. Okay, let's cleanse the palate. Open wide. That was good one. That was good one. Why did you spit it out? Um, is that beer again?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Beer again? What kind? Garage beer. Correct. Okay. Oh, no. Doing these before you drink them and wow. That was good.
Starting point is 00:52:04 That was a direct hit. That's a wine? Yes. I'm going to go some type of red. Correct. That's about as close as I'm going to get. I don't even know names of wines. We're not a wine family.
Starting point is 00:52:20 We're not a wine house. We like it at dinner. Box wine? Bronsia. How about a cabernet Sauvignon? Oh, nice. Sure. Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:31 That's definitely a red wine. Okay. Okay. Ready? It's how I got my eye. That's not good. Yeah, that's burning. Too much.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I'm sorry. That is, uh, it's got some sting into it. Oh, I got my eye. I'm going to say, it's almost like Gatorade of vodka. You picked the alcohol correct. Yeah, vodka? Yes. Now, I will tell you it's just an infused version of that.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Oh, so this isn't like a product? No. It almost tasted like fruit punchy. Okay. Strawberry? Blue raspberry sedka. Okay. Way off.
Starting point is 00:53:36 So take you right back to college, huh? So there's a blue raspberry. Yeah. I swear to God, I can smell it from here. That'll get you. Okay. Last one. Ready?
Starting point is 00:53:49 Sorry, that was... Your name is a trush. I'm sorry. Is this another beer? Yes. Another beer. What kind? So we've already done lime and garage, so I'm assuming we're going in a different path.
Starting point is 00:54:06 But would we do that? I would hope not. Okay. So what? What might it be? Garage beer. But it is... Lime?
Starting point is 00:54:15 And it is in a... Bottle? Yeah! There we go. That's it. You did it. Nailed it. Now, how many did he get right?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Five of seven. I would... I was just... Oh, okay, thank you. I was going to say I was just about to put my hand up for a high five, but I don't want to stand there asking for a high five. Okay, five out of seven, that's great. Thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Thanks for having me. I love you so much. I love you. I'm so much fun. I want, can we zoom in on the garlic right there, that piece of garlic? What was the garlic though? What is it a garlic though? Or maybe it's a seed from a pickle.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That was a pickle. That was a pickle juice. Yeah. It was definitely grillos though because I could see the dill in it floating in it. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thanks for having me. I should have got shardinay quicker. I don't know what the vodka infusion threw me off.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah, or is your eye? Yeah, definitely stop seeing you now. Okay, great. Once again, you can donate to EIF who are 48 hours of fun that we're about to endure tomorrow. Yes. You can go get some dry clothing
Starting point is 00:55:27 because I'm actually going to be right back with one of my closest friends and the EIF executive director, Ryan Hammond, right after these messages from me. I'm currently at one of my favorite places ever, the Jersey Shore, specifically Cile City. And soon, I'll be hanging on the beach with the girls. But when I'm staying out in the sun for hours, I need eye protection I can rely on.
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Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm back and now I'm joined by a long overdue guest for her first NGL appearance. Not only is she a great friend, but basically family at this point. She also has dedicated her life to incredible work for the autism community. She's the mother of my nieces, the executive director of the Eagles Autism Foundation, and now she's not going to lie. Ryan Hammond. Ryan, welcome to the show. So happy to be here. First, how do we meet?
Starting point is 00:58:57 So we met because when we were launching Eagle. Autism Foundation. I went to a team meeting, talked to the team about our mission, how we were going to work together, how I needed their help. And Jason shared your email with me. And he said, my fiance would like to get involved in some way and handed me a piece of paper with Kylie McDevitt on there. And I reached out. At that point, we had one staff member. And you were volunteer number one. Yes, I was. And then she couldn't shake me. because I just kept coming back, volunteering, so much so that I then ended up eventually working for the foundation in an official capacity.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Yes, senior event consultant, which entailed emailing the city of Philadelphia, closing down streets, ordering signage, wearing a walkie-talkie at all of our events. And it was amazing. And now I have three nieces that are not by blood, but by choice. and sometimes they claim me and sometimes they don't. Well, one in particular. Yeah. We're talking about you, Peyton.
Starting point is 01:00:04 She likes to pretend we're not related, but we are now. And I talk about them on the show as my nieces because they are my nieces. Charlie, we just messaged her during one of our last episodes about the latest Gen Z slang because she is, as she describes herself, brain rot. Brain rot, yes, yes. So she told us. Living your future with these teenagers. Yes. And it's nice for me to reflect with, you know, your girls as well.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Now, Ryan had three daughters in 37 months. Correct. So they're all very close together, much like ours. They have similar personality types because of birth order. So I really get like the most wonderful glimpse into the future by hanging around her girls. And also, my girls are obsessed with her girls. So that is just a lovely trade-off that we get. And I get to reminisce with the little ones.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And, I mean, we had an impromptu dance class last night. Yes. On the driveway. In the driveway. Yeah. I mean, it's the best of both worlds. But let's get to what we're really here to talk about. E.A.F.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And everything we're doing here with Team 62 at the shore this week with Shorebirds here at the OD. Beer Bowl over at the Yacht Club of Sea Isle. We're doing an Eagles takeover on excursion. Right before that, we're doing a yoga class with Stride and Lulu Lemon. We're definitely not overachievers. We definitely don't take on more than we should. Us? Never.
Starting point is 01:01:36 What are you most proud of when it comes to this event? I think the idea that we can have this destination in a place that we love, that we spend a lot of time with, and it brings a community together. I think it's the most magical thing. It's so authentic in a way where we already go to the ocean drive. We spend time here. we know all of the staff and to be able to partner with them and have them buy in and then share this experience with our players and celebrities. We're so excited. You know, Dan Arlofsky's coming this year. So we keep adding new people who, you know, hear about the lore or maybe see Jason Nispedo.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I'm not sure which one. But they want to be here. And I think everyone understands the assignment probably because of your really scary talk of like no one drinks for free. No one gets a photo for free. It's for donation. I might do that. But, yeah. I think that's what it's all about is this is an event that's like not as structured. It's about people coming together, raising money, and everyone is lining up. The town is buzzing and you'll talk to all the businesses and they're like, oh, we know your events coming. Everyone in this town is wearing green this week. So I think that's what's been amazing and it continues to grow every single year. People want to get more involved. People are celebrating 21st birthdays here and it's been awesome to
Starting point is 01:02:51 see just a culmination of what the last five years have been. And I can't wait for you know, this year to top that. If you had the opportunity to talk to parents or caregivers of kids who are on the autism spectrum, what would you tell them about seeking help or any advice that you could give based on your years of work with the autism community? Yeah, I've been with this community. It found me back in 2009 when we cut the ribbon at the Kinney Center for Autism Education Support. So I've been with families on this journey a long time. And I think the most important thing is to get there get the diagnosis so you understand what your roadmap may look like. So do you need speech services? Do you need behavior analysis? What are things that are going to help your child live their best
Starting point is 01:03:36 life? It's really about this picture of like meeting them where they are and then helping them grow and thrive. So I think for families to recognize that there's a community out there of practitioners and schools and the education system and teachers and therapists that are going to help you. And then the flip side is I would lean in to these other parents who have been there to see a mom mentor, a newly diagnosed family. It's just something that I've never seen such kindness and just generosity and a vested interest in like, I want to help you because I've been through this and I'm going to share all the tips and tricks. I like to think our Nordiverse employment program is a great testament to that. We pilot it with three adults with autism who wanted to have a job. 85% of people with autism are unemployed. We've never marketed this program. We just found people that we've connected with through our community and started it. And that's the other thing. You have to start somewhere. We now have over 50 employees who self-identify with autism, who tap in for resources from the time they interview. And that's because the parents talk to the other parents. So we have some kids that are friends and coming from the same school district or, you know, they have this pathway for a future that maybe was uncertain to them because of these communities.
Starting point is 01:04:50 that we're building. So I would say, you know, seek the intervention to get access to the services that you need, be an advocate for your child, be relentless in the pursuit of making sure they get everything that they deserve to live their best life and that it feels positive, that it feels celebrated. And because we need people that think different and communicate differently. It teaches empathy and so many different things. And it makes our world so much brighter. Now, before we do anything else, in the spirit of guest bartending, we played this game with my college best friends, Amber and Gab. So Queen Emma thought we should bring it back for one of my other closest friends from adulthood. We're going to, oh, yeah, okay, we're going to get some red cups.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So give us a second here. That's right, real ones. Red cups means one thing. Ryan and I are playing the special NGL version of Flip Cup called Truth or Furrow. flip, which makes no sense at all. But our production team is pumping their fists behind the camera because it's just the best way to have people answer questions to embarrass me. So and it's aligned with the event. Sure, it's aligned with the event. People donate a thousand dollars. People donate a thousand dollars to play flip cup against Jason and Brian. Whatever. We need to
Starting point is 01:06:17 bring you into the mix with Shirley Temple. Okay. Well, we're, thank you. for saying that. We're playing this game with a pitcher of Shirley Temple. Not beer, obviously, but the stakes are as high as ever because in Ryan's hand, we have a pile of questions written by the NGL team. God, this can't be good. The last person, just like when we had to have a conversation in the way home from New York, like, let's reimagine your role. So now I'm in charge. So let's go. Oh, no. Okay. All right, here we go. I got to get myself together here. I hope you don't. Oh, hold on.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Are we doing down-up-down? Yeah, I think so. Down. I gave myself so much. You did. I won. Winner. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Okay, this is a softball. Kathy, outstanding Shirley Temple. Incredible. God, that's a good Shirley Temple. That is the right ratio. Yeah. Wow, that's a good ratio. Which is important.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Wow. Okay. Kathy is a cocktail specialist. God, she's a queen. Okay. Okay. Okay, push us in. Push on in.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Okay. I'm back, guys, because I'm in charge now. What rules do you have when it comes to spoiling each other's kids? Oh. I can spoil your kids. Yes. Buy them bikes, you know. What else?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Ice cream. And I get to spoil your children. Take them to the arcade. Yeah, as long as this reciprocated. Yeah. This is the whole idea of like fun aunt situation. Like as parents, we can't really spoil our kids because we want our kids to be well-rounded and humble and understand the value of a dollar.
Starting point is 01:07:53 No, or I'll think about it. Exactly. Yeah. But aunt? Yes. Yeah. Aunt Ryan and Kylie, they can do what they want. Within reason.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yes. But it's a pretty, it's a pretty broad allowance. Kylie may have impersonated me to call my child out of school before. That happened. I did that. I 100% did that. I did that. And I said, hi, I'm Charlie's mom.
Starting point is 01:08:19 She did admit it, though. She was like, I'm actually her aunt. can I still take her? And they let you. Yeah, that's what happened. I did send an email, though, to co-sign. Ryan had to send the email. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But it started with the impersonation. I said, I can't get a hold of my daughter. Would you mind having her call me? And then Charlie called me. And this was because school was technically over and they were watching movies and she was like having fear of missing out because we were together. To be fair, it's happened one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:50 That Ryan knows of. We'll leave it at that. Okay. All right. I should have given you more. I know. This could really, I could have done like a tactical thing here and filled your cup more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Well, you're a jerk. Kylie claims she can't sing. Can you confirm that's not true? That's a lot of negatives there. Absolutely false. In fact, Kylie is a recording artist. You're such a butthole. Millions of copies of her.
Starting point is 01:09:29 You're such a butthole. Original. Not that she wrote the song, but it was an original. It was written by Beave. Christmas song that she sang a duet with Jason. And your children claim it's not you. They do because it doesn't sound like me because they auto tuned it so hard. Shout out to Nick. Can you sing a verse of it for us? Nope, I can't. Next. Here we go. Oh, God, that's bad. You're mean. There we go. Jump. That was even holding the cards. So you're welcome. Oh, what is Kylie's most toxic trait? Where shall I be in?
Starting point is 01:10:10 Oh, no. Well, should I start with the most obvious one? Sure. She doesn't think she's famous. Oh, because I'm not. That's easy. Yeah, and we will go places and she'll be fine. She should have security or, but she's so kind and remembers people who
Starting point is 01:10:33 we've met over and over again. And it's a, it's a joy to see you take on celebrity, Kylie. Which I am not. But that is why she did have her performance evaluation that required her to change her role from senior event consultant to Eagles Autism Ambassador. They decided that when I needed a security person dedicated to me at the Eagles Autism Challenge, that it was no longer cost effective to have me there as trying to get a job done. But even though you hate to admit it, like I feel like you're one of those people, like the right person got famous because you use your platform for good, women in sports. Obviously, you continuously show up as volunteer number one for the Eagles Obscen Foundation going in part 10 year. I can't let anybody take my, I can't let anybody
Starting point is 01:11:21 take my spot on that. Yeah. No, it's been awesome to watch except when, you know, we're in situations that you might need a little support. What's my other toxic trait? It's really challenging when you get to a register and she tries to physically fight you to pay. So we will go to a place down here called Shorebreak. Dana can confirm. And when we get to the line,
Starting point is 01:11:46 we physically box people out and people around us are terrified. Concerned. And the person taking our money is like, I don't know what to do. I don't know who to believe. I will tell you that if anyone else wants to play this game or maybe you do this with your family members,
Starting point is 01:12:00 because I also play this game with my father, and by game, I mean serious and life-threatening competition. If you need to, you can always look at the person, the cashier, and tell them that the other person's card is stolen. Yeah. If you so choose. Okay, one more. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Oh, we're already filled. Oh, I did it. I'm on it. That was a tie. Did we give a video replay? I don't even know if that, like, there is not. Because, as I said, I'm in charge. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:32 When is Jason going to let Kylie get the damn cat? Ryan's actually not allowed to answer this. What we say on this show is that if you can't answer honestly, then you're not allowed to talk about it. So Ryan's not actually allowed to talk about it. I'm not going to lie. I have no comment. Thank you so much for saying that. We've said nothing here.
Starting point is 01:12:51 How has Kylie been like a sister to you? Well, first she's been like a sister to me because we get confused for sisters. All the time. In fact, we were at a store down here a couple weeks ago and a woman came up to me. And it was Kylie and I, my husband, Chuck and Jason, and we're standing there and the woman comes right to me and she's like, can I get a photo with your husband? And I was like, oh my God, sure, Chuck would love a photo. And she's like, what?
Starting point is 01:13:18 And I was like, Chuck would love a photo with you. And Jason's like smirking because he thinks it's funny. And I was like, I'm not Kylie. My husband is Chuck. do you mean Kylie? And she's like, are you guys sisters? And I was like, well, we get it all the time, but we're not. We, we must just like give that vibe off. But no, as far as like sentimentally, how has Kylie been like a sister to me just consistently shows up for me? As I mentioned, like she's continued, her life has gotten bigger. It's probably a good way to put it. With her having less
Starting point is 01:13:52 control about circumstances that surround her. And regardless of that, she continues to show up. the fact that we're doing this event for the sixth year. And I mean, how many people can raise a million dollars in 48 hours? Like, she carries us on her back here. And what she is to my girls is something that, you know, you can't replace. I have sisters. I have nieces. I have a nephew. He's the prince. But I get this chosen family here with Kylie. And it's been an amazing journey so far. Now, because it's, because it's an NGO episode and you're my guest. I need you to tell me what's your best mom advice you've ever gotten. So it's not sleep while the baby's sleeping.
Starting point is 01:14:38 It's not that. No, no, no, no. Silly. I mean, I think like the best mom advice is just to like, I don't know, don't let kids, like being a mom is the greatest gift I've ever been given. But I think like being, like having kids allow to serve as a motivation for me to build a career and to serve a community. And I think bringing them along on my journey with me is probably the best advice that I've been given. Because as a working mom, you feel sometimes you're making
Starting point is 01:15:09 a choice to either, you know, be with your kids and show up for whatever expectation they have or to do your job really well. And I think as women, we have to like contemplate that a lot. But I feel like for me, I've had the privilege of building two organizations. And I think one of the things I tell my team even because I've learned it is if you can share these experiences with your family. And my kids get to come and volunteer, which they'll be volunteering throughout, you know, the next two days. When I have to maybe miss something, they understand because from a young age, they were like, well, my mom's helping people. And so that's where, you know, if you have opportunities to blend your family into your passions and most importantly your career, I think it just
Starting point is 01:15:49 makes life so much easier in when you have to make those choices. This year, my daughter Charlie had her junior prom the same night as the Eagles Austin Challenge kickoff party. So I made Chuck drive her to the stadium. So I could dress her and have that experience with her in the stadium bathroom and then send her off to her prom date and she FaceTime me to meet him. And that's like what it's all about. Right. So having, you know, not being afraid of blending and overachieving in both of those areas, being a mom and working. Now, I cannot thank you enough for coming on. I cannot thank you enough for the work that you've done.
Starting point is 01:16:30 You have, like you were saying, you started your work with the autism community at the Kinney Center, but then you continued it when Jeffrey Lurie brought you back to really bring his vision to life on making sure that he was leaving a legacy here in Philadelphia and really touching all corners of the world with the work that you guys are doing in autism and the work that you're supporting. I cannot thank you enough for letting me come along for the last. the ride and being the tiniest part of of EAF and also for letting me enjoy your family and getting to enjoy life together. And it has been the absolute best. And I'm so glad that Jeffrey
Starting point is 01:17:04 wanted to do this because it would not have ended up with the friendship. I was going to say, should we like toast to Jeffrey for bringing us together? I mean, the fact that he was bold enough to use this organization with the best fans in the world to bring people together to raise $56 million at this point that's truly changing people's lives and best fan experience from an inclusion standpoint nor diverse employment program so maybe we just you know shout out geoffrey seriously you guys can donate to the event and help us on our 48 hour journey by watching this episode checking the link in the description and donating i'm telling you even five dollars makes a difference it moves us even closer towards our goal we need to make sure that we make over a million dollars
Starting point is 01:17:48 this is year six and every single year we have beat the previous years total. So don't let us drop. We're competitive. What can we say? We're so competitive. We're so competitive. Yeah. So let's make it happen. I know the real ones can help us out. I have faith. You can find even more clips for my longer conversation with Jason and Ryan on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. We'll be back next week with a brand new, very French, very magical episode of Not Gonna Lie. Follow us on social media at NGL with Kylie for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Not Going I is a Wave Original brought to you by Allstate. Thanks again to The Real Ones for tuning in.

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