Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce - Kylie on Her “Feral” College Era, Beef with Dwyane Wade & "Playing Tinder" In The Dorms | Ep. 54

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

It’s the College Roommates “Tell All” & Galentine's Day Special! Kylie is joined by her former roommates, field hockey teammates, bridesmaids and current best friends Amber and Gab to give the Real Ones all the tea on Kylie! Kylie starts things off with a Real One Comment of the Week about her best “viral moment” and her friends weigh in with their top choice (3:41). Then, Amber & Gab get brutally honest about “College Kylie” and answer Queen Emma’s top 10 questions about Kylie in her Cabrini days. They talk about the earliest days of Kylie and Jason’s relationship (5:25), including that first Tinder swipe, the times Jason stayed over at the dorms, what pranks they used to play and what Kylie used to be like at parties (7:15).  Then in Doomscroll of the Week, Kylie and her friends describe the ideal Galentine’s Day for them at this point in their lives (22:51), Kylie reveals some future plans post-babies she wants her friends’ approval on (23:30) and we also react to a tiny Real One who wishes there was Kylie-specific children’s book (25:48). After that, Kylie, Wab & Burr get even more honest about “Bride Kylie” and answer questions about what Kylie was really like to plan a wedding with, what she had to have on her wedding day and meeting the groomsmen AKA Travis (27:48). Plus, Kylie shares she has a ridiculous longstanding “beef” with Dwyane Wade that he of course knows nothing about (32:13). Then, Kylie and her best friends throw it back to their college days and play a high stakes version of flip cup called “Truth or Flip” (43:14). The first person to successfully flip their cup gets to pull a question from the pile to ask the group. Fortunately for the Real Ones (& Queen Emma) all the questions are designed to get us the best dirt on Kylie. We hear about Kylie’s nicknames, how long it takes her to respond to a text and what about her has changed since she became a “total celeb” (Queen Emma’s words NOT Kylie’s) (50:45). Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for even more exclusive clips from the Galentine’s Day Special! . . . Purchase NGL Merch: https://www.nglkylie.com Support the Show:   Covergirl: Try Covergirl Lash Blast Volume Mascara! Go to https://www.Covergirl.com today Intuit Turbo Tax: Head to https://turbotax.com to find a store location near you and get matched with a TurboTax expert and get real-time updates in the iOS app. Peloton: Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at https://onepeloton.com Toyota: Learn more at https://Toyota.com/Sienna DoorDash: We all know life gets crazy, DoorDash just helps bring a little order to it. Go to https://www.doordash.com today Olipop: GET a FREE can of OLIPOP! Buy any 2 cans of OLIPOP in store, and we’ll pay you back for one! Shop at Walmart, Target, Whole Foods, and thousands of other retailers near you. Sign up at https://drinkolipop.com/NGL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm not going to lie, I've never been more nervous for an episode. That's right. I am sweating under my armpits like you wouldn't believe. Because who knows what's going to come out of their mouths that has never been on the internet before. Oh, we're going to believe so much of this episode. Let's get it started. Welcome to the first ever Galentine's Day special edition of Not Gonna Lie,

a Wave Original brought to you by Cover Girl. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. see the movie I absolutely have to watch with my best friends is I don't know Do we ever watch movies? We would sit in the living room and shoot the shit. Yeah. Because you were playing Tinder.

Yeah. We weren't playing Tinder. Playing Tinder. Oh no. The best Galentines Day activity is eating chocolate. And my Galentines this year and every year are my four daughters, Little Lees and the two women sitting here. My best friends, bridesmaids, former field hockey teammates,

one of them was also my college roommate who has seen a lot of shit. They even advised me on every single Tinder swipe back in the day and now they're officially not going to lie. Ambering Gab, AKA, Byron Webb. Thanks for joining me. Oh no. Yeah. Okay, Queen Emma thought Galentine's Day was a perfect excuse to have you guys on and embarrass me for 60 minutes straight. Suck my ass, Emma. Suck my ass. So we have a group chat that we've had since college. I think if I scrolled back far enough, I could actually get to our college messages, which is concerning. But to be clear, you guys have been sending just like a little, I think Gab, I think it was you that sent a couple videos. I've been waiting for a tell-all.

Shit. Oh. Queen-O is really chomping at the bit to make sure that she's. connects with Gab after this episode. So we can get these videos on the pod, but I'm going to tell you right now. Absolutely not. Real quick, for anyone who doesn't know, Galantines Day was invented by a fictional character named Leslie Knope in one of my favorite TV shows, Parks and Rec. It's the day before Valentine's Day, and it's meant to celebrate girlhood. So thank you to Amy Polar for the inspiration. We might as well just keep thanking Amy Poehler until she comes on the show.

So there's that. All right, coming up on our Galentine's Day episode, we're going to get honest about college, Kylie. Oh, no. With the laughter, so bad. It's going to be so bad. The earliest days in my relationship with Jason, this should be fun.

Oh, no. We're also going to do a special Galentine's Day theme, Doomscrawl, and talk about what I was really like as a bride. Plus, we're going to throw it back to our Cabrini days and play an NGL. version of Flipcup. This is going to be so bad. But before we get to all that, let's start with the quick NGL announcements. First, if you watched our Fafo curling episode, you might have already seen this, but you guys are getting two Fafos this month. That's right. You can watch

me fall countless times down to Bunny Hill on a snowboard with Olympian Jamie Anderson. This upcoming Tuesday, February 17th, only on YouTube. All right, now that that's covered, let's get to our real one comment of the week. On last week's episode, Travis, we talked about my favorite viral moment of his, but I said there weren't very many viral moments of my own, at least ones we can talk about. Yep. Turns out the real ones disagree.

From Ruggy bruh. My favorite Kylie viral moment is when she river danced on St. Patrick's Day. Oh, yeah. Yeah, at the media place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was that a foreign concept to you guys? No. No. And when have you seen that before? I like the Riverdance, but I prefer the Mummer Strut. I like a good Kylie Mummer Strut.

Yeah. We're going to have to, we can submit that. We're going to put that video in right here. There's actually a Mummer Strut that you got recorded while we were on a Phillies game and we spin perfectly in sync. Some other submissions from the fans. Kylie taking a bag of Cheetos to the face at Super Bowl last year. Yep. Kylie throwing a shoe at Jason during the other podcast. The shoe. The Princess Ciana jacket. Kylie's commencement speech at Cabrini.

As your commencement speaker. Is the two people who know me the best, what is your favorite viral moment of me? Ciana, Princess Ciana by far. Yeah? Because it just keeps fucking coming up. Yes. Okay, great. I made that my phone background.

I wanted that. on a t-shirt. I was a little afraid. While I was blow-drying my hair, I was thinking to myself, are they about to show up in the t-shirts? If it fit me, I would have. Yeah, if it fit. But I knew it.

It wasn't going to fit. I knew it. In my heart, in my brain, I was like, oh, no. That's it for real one comment of the week. Next up, we're going to do a segment called, Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Cover Girl. Every single time we're like, yeah, tell us more. I start to sweat.

since burn webb have known me since we all went to cabrini together against my better judgment we're going to get honest about college kiley oh god yep and to help the real ones get all the tea queen emma has prepared the questions mm-hmm it has bad she's nodding her head in the background so i graduated in 2017 two plus zero plus one plus seven, ten, numerology tells us, we answer ten-ish questions about college. So it feels good. Wow. This can't be good. That's a risk. Okay. Number one, how do we all meet for the first time? Field hockey practice. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Preseason. Yep. Day one. Mm-hmm. That was great. You, we became friends when, no, we had a two a day, and it was between sessions, and you commuted. Yes. And you were like, does anyone want to get in my car and go to Wawa? And,

we jumped it. So very food motivated, easy to kidnap people. We just jumped right in. That's true. Yeah. How would you describe college, Kylie, in three words or less? I will say, before you guys got here, I had a guess. Easily convinced. That's a good one. That's two words. That's okay. I don't even need three. I'm not good. I don't easily convinced. Three words is hard. You were always down for anything and would be willing to go anywhere. Down for anything is down for anything. Three words.

I thought someone was for sure going to say, dumb ass bitch. I felt like that's like the translation for easily convinced, right? Yes, the PG version. What was college Kylie like at parties? You would like two modes. So you would be responsible. Uber or I was stopping you from eating Wawa Mac and Cheese off the floor. Okay, to be clear, I was not going to eat that. I had to. I'm 90% sure I wasn't going to eat

the mac and cheese. I'm 100% sure that if I didn't take it out of your hand, it was going in your mouth. To be clear, that was C-SAC weekend. So our conference weekend was really, I feel like the only time that I went balls to the wall in college. You were feral that week. There you have it. We got you a handle of gray goose the one year. Okay. But it tastes like water. And to be clear, I convinced quite a few people to drink that at room temperature.

That was an accomplishment. That's a skill. Burr, you're very quiet over there about parties. I was just there, you know, probably under the stairs. crying. How did you know? How did you know I was going to start there? Burr has a habit.

Let me tell you about this. Burr had a habit. If she started with wine and ended with... Beer. It always ended in tears. Always tears. No matter what. That shit was bananas.

You could be so happy and you'd still be crying. Maybe happy tears. Maybe. Often not. bananas. But, yeah. Wasn't it? Yeah, just skip it.

When you're out of wine, just stop. Like, stop. What songs were blasting on a pregame playlist? It talks about body parts. One is also a name for a cat. All you ladies pop that. That one definitely. Don't just do it.

Yeah, that one. Jason is the, yeah, Jason. Yeah, you guys have been in the truck on that. Yeah. He thought he was funny. What's the thing? You'll know it? And your crack.

You know that one? Yeah. Like my... Yep. There you go. That one comes to mind. That's the song that comes to mind when you think of me? No, like pre-game warm up, you know?

Aw, she does love me. What's the funniest themed party that we went to? I feel like we didn't have that many themes. The funny thing is, is we were into Halloween, but I don't think we ever coordinated. No, the one year we did, well, we tried to. What were we? What was we? We tried to do this, and we were like, this is the year we're going to do a theme.

And then I was an Ninja Turtle. You were Buzz Light Year. And what were you? A smirk. That feels right. All I remember is that my Buzz Light Year things wouldn't stay. I had on Buzz Light Year jetpack that we were. wouldn't stay inflated. And so for the entire night, I was trying to recruit people to quote,

we can't keep that. How else were you going to get air? Number four, is it true that you all used to swipe on Tinder together in the dorms? And were you there the moment Kylie swiped right on Jason? Yes, it is true. We did play that game often. I was not there when you swiped on him. I was there after. I feel like I was there I think so To be fair The apartment that I talk about I've told this story

So many times That we used to sit In quote My friend's apartment Living room And just swipe And everyone would be swiping together That was Amber's living room

And since I was a commuter At the time We would all meet up in Amber's Living Room of her apartment In the dorms And her roommates And the three of us Would all sit there

And then we'd be like Did you get this guy Oh, yeah. Did you guys match? Oh, yeah. What did you say? And we would literally play off of each other's comments to that same person. And they never got it. Not once. Not once. Geniuses. Gosh. Did you guys have a good feeling about Jason when I swiped right on him? I had a feeling it would be a good story either way. And that is why Amber is.

We had decided my friends and I that it was either going to be really funny if it wasn't him and really funny if it was him. This was the deciding factor here. And Burr was the sacrificial lamb that came with me the night of because we had to strengthen numbers. You can't go by yourself. Yeah. Everybody knows that.

Number five, did Kylie talk to you guys after the first date where Jason fell asleep at the table. Gab, what was the full report like the next morning? That he fell asleep. Yes. And then it was the antics that went on at the bar. I remember you debated going out with him again. Yes. And then you finally were like, okay, we'll see. That was it. Like, it wasn't, it was boring because he fell asleep. It was. We were, it was underwhelmed. We were a little disappointed, I think, in the report back. I do remember the text the next morning from Burr when you, when you frown up in the bushes. I was not feeling very well. To be fair, I was the DD that night. And I have said that I had a Shirley Temple that night,

that Jason tasted it. He said it was refreshing and that's what he remembers from the night. But that I think the only reason he remembers that is because it's the only non-alcoholic beverage that he drank the entire night. Yeah. And while people were purchasing Sharley, dots. Because I was the D.D., Amber was doing a two-fer. It would have been rude to saying no. Like, you can't just be like, oh, you got this for me, no thank you. So I slid it to burr. And she took two for the team. And she ended up tossing her cookies in the bushes the next morning. Yeah, at least it was the next morning. And I was already home. It wasn't like in a car. It wasn't at the ball. I do appreciate that.

Are, you know, respectful, really. Number six, how did Kylie first introduce you to Jason? And what had she told you about their dates up to that point? I feel like we knew everything. You did. Yeah. I met Jason. We were a part of that relationship.

I met Jason at the art museum. Yes, you did. When I was on a field trip. Wow. Because. I had to pick you up. Um, because? Your parents didn't know, and we pretended that you slept over my place.

Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It was my birthday. I'm no judgment. What was the outfit of choice on that pickup? Evel sweatshirt, yeah. Have a picture of that too.

But didn't you have tall boots on too? Uh-huh. I feel like a skirt or something. You can see that. Yeah. Just like the oversized sweatshirt. It was my birthday. Knee high boots.

Right. Okay, we'll insert the picture. Dad, we're kidding. Oh, no. Queen Emma wants to know if I told you about when he farted tying his ice skates. Immediately when it happened. Yes. Yeah, we got the text.

He just farted. Yes, I did. Because everyone knows, farts are funny. Number seven, there are rumors that Jason had spent the night in the dorms. a few times. Perhaps even did a walk of shame across Cabrini campus. Can you confirm or deny? 100% confirm. She's just joking. Gab, would, might you remember of a time when you were in our kitchen? No, this is seared into my mind. Oh, when you walked face first into sweaty Jason. All I wanted shirtless was a snack. I just wanted a nighttime goldfish.

Achise it. Yep. Nope. Pitch black. It's just me and you and Jason. Yes. And it was like, what's the movie? Anger management?

No. Philip Seymour Hoffman. I say this wrong every time. I think it's, I was saying this to Queen Emma, but when we were talking about it yesterday. I think it's a long came Polly when they play basketball. Yes. And Ben Stiller's face just. Yep.

That was 100% what it felt like. Yeah. And Jason's just like, oh, hey, wept. And I'm like, I just went right back into my room and went. to bed hungry. Oh gosh. Yep. That happened. Number eight, this is... Now, Queen Emma wants to know how popular is Kylie?

Is she just being self-deprecating when she said she wasn't cool? Isn't cool. This is actually what that says. You were pretty... Everyone knew who you were. You were pretty popular, I'd say. Don't say that just because you want to get on Queen Emma's good side. Don't say that.

was I cool? I mean, I hung out with you, so. Yeah, we thought you were cool. That brought my cool points up. Obviously. Big time. To everyone else, we probably weren't cool, but to each other, we were cool. That's fair.

See? That's for sure. And you know, you know who says that? Cool people? Yeah. I was going to go the opposite. Number nine, did you guys ever pull? I love that.

I'm going to put this in. Did you guys ever pull any pranks? I love a prank. Yeah. We were phenomenal at them. We were so good at them. At some point. I'm not saying that we stole a traffic cone, but that traffic cone ended up everywhere.

It was on top of someone's car at some point. We ended up getting it into someone's trunk without them knowing about it and they found it like a week later. You were known for a good phone call here or there. Oh. Susie Jammer's. I don't know about that. You don't remember? You don't remember?

Cue the video. Yeah, I got a video. We were. Oh, no. We were calling people. And Amber was in the middle of her skit as Susie Jammers. You heard that right. With the Z.

I do believe Jammers was with the Z. Naturally. And in the video, you can hear the person go, Amber? So we needed to work on our skills. I don't know how much of a prank it was, but there is photo and I believe video evidence of us, we'll call it, acquiring. some campus flags. When Gab was senior, the college was switching from a college

to a university. And in that transition, they were going to have to replace all of the flags on the light posts around campus. And so we did community service. Yeah, we assisted them. And we helped get ahead. With the approval of public safety.

We did. Yeah. It was done by laughing at us. But yeah. Yeah. laughter is approval approval that's legally legally um what's the most ridiculous and or embarrassing college Kylie's story that you may or may not be able to share on this podcast oh you would sleep in my closet my what was that my sophomore year you refused to sleep like a normal person it was that the

room you shared with Meg yeah you curled up in our closet with your Transformers Blanky it was comfortable mm-hmm yeah it was like a rib. Meeting the pair. Nope, can't share that either. Yeah. Oh, this is good. We literally can't use any of this. None of this is usable.

So how about that? That was bad. Oh, God. All right. That's it for, can I be honest about college? Kylie, brought to you by Cover Girl. I am sweating profusely. Thank you for asking Queen Emma.

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Doom Scroll the Week is brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. First up on Doom Scroll, TikTok is filled with amazing Galentine's Day ideas that we're too disorganized to ever actually do. Like this one, Queen Emma. Oh, they're doing boards. I love this. They're doing Sharkoochee boards. This is great.

We could never put in that much effort. Ever. Have we ever properly celebrated Galentine's Day together? No. No. And what would be the perfect Galentine's Day celebration? That's the most Kylie Gabber coded. Food for sure.

But I feel like this is too much preparation. Not organized. Not organized. Like show up. Order a shit. ton of food. Yeah, absolutely. Sit down. How's it? How's it? Yeah. Talk some shit. Next up, if this isn't peak girlhood, I don't know what it is. Queen Emma the clip, please. The girl with her back to the camera recently got her boobs. Oh. And they're having a party where she then reveals, really, I,

my plan is we're going to end up doing this. In. I already know that. Yeah. You don't have to tell me that. I want to be clear you were in whether you wanted to be in or not. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was going to bait you with snacks. Oh, yeah. And then just be like, hey, have you seen these? To be clear, there is a rough plan that eventually I will put my boobs back where they belong because four kids.

That's all I have to say about that. How would you guys react in this situation? Well, if they look good. Yeah. We'll be honest. Okay. Let me be clear. me having a podcast called Not Gonna Lie is it was it was perfectly on track from where our friendship started because when I need honesty and I'm talking brutal honesty like people are not like there might be a nice like no that's good but you guys are the ones who receive a text is that correct that is correct because they're going to tell it how it is

And so I would be a little worried. I'm going to wait until they settle. Okay? Because if I did it fresh out of surgery, Burr would be like, I don't know why they're at your neck. Burr would be like, let's just fix that real quick. Yeah. She would be like, come over here.

Let me get those down for you. You guys are in on this, though? Yeah. Okay. Perfect. We'll make a TikTok. We can get a two for one special. We have talked about that for one.

To be fair, in college when we talked about this, we did say two for one special because sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Last on Doom Scroll, apparently I have a bonus tiny human Galentine this year because this little girl appears to be my biggest fan. Okay. Why are we upset? It's the golden book. And you wanted Kylie Kelsey book? Yes. But all you got was a Kelsey's Kelsey Brothers. I'm sorry.

Can we read it anyway? Kylie's in it. To be fair, the mom does find the page. You look great enough. Queen Emma said, Kylie won't answer this. So I'll ask you, should there be a Kylie Golden book? 100%. You're an asshole.

I'll write it. Yes. I have a good idea for a book for you. Oh, no. Listen, let's hear it. You, this one I think, and this is, listen, I have copyrights on this. So whoever out there steals my plan, I think that people should make sports books for, like, kids, like young kids that their parents can read to them. Like, if I'm reading to my son, I can read, like, a baseball book or a football book that puts it in, like, very simple terms.

And you could do one for field hockey for, like, little kids. And then I could read it to my kid every single day. And then it'll just ingrain in their mind. oh, I have to play field hockey because that's what I go to sleep thinking about every night. And then that is their life's purpose. This feels manipulative and I like it. Shout out to this tiny real one's mom at Awkward Tiff. That's a great name on TikTok.

All right. That does it for Doom Scroll the week. Brought you by Toyota. Next up, we got honest about college Kylie earlier. Now, according to Queen Emma's rundown, we're going to get honest about bride Kylie. That's right. We're in for a can I be honest double feature today. And I am once again sweating.

Jason and I got married in 2018. 2 plus 0 plus 1 plus 8 equals 11. 11 is way too many questions. So let's call it 7-ish questions. Number one, how did Kylie ask you guys to be her bridesmaids? I actually don't remember this. There was like a box. Yeah.

There was like a stuff. I think I have a photo of it actually. Yeah. I still have the mug. Little like. There's a mug. in there? Yeah. There was something. There was

something tangible. I think you had already told us and then... You didn't really have any other friends. You didn't have many options. Default. Tell us everything about the Bachelorette party. I love that what

this question is is not what Queen Emma thinks she's going to get. Go ahead. Yeah. Do you remember? Yeah. We got our nails. done and then we did the wine place oh i love that there was a bucket of wine my paint can yes yes

i walked to do friscoes with that paint can yes you did it was it was it was it was a day event it was a low key thing didn't jason drive us to philly he might have yeah he did yeah because we were at our house in south philly yeah we drove us downtown yeah it was a good time number three on a scale of one to Bridezilla, how was it dealing with Kylie planning a wedding? It was like, is it going to happen? They picked a date, but it's January. They're saying it's happening in April. Yeah.

There was a lot of side texting of like, do you think she's actually done anything? That feels. In other words, you're saying I was a great bride. Solo maintenance. This is, I love this question so much. How did you guys meet the groomsmen? And by groomsmen, I mean grooms man. The night before?

I have no recollection of how I actually met Travis. I do think there was, to be clear, and we can put up a wedding photo here. I had four bridesmaids. I had my sister, my cousin Marissa, and the two of you. That was it. And Jason had Travis. And that was it. If it's not clear enough, we are not particularly organized individuals.

And so we didn't care about matching. That was not a concern of ours. And I think you guys each walked down the aisle independently. Yes. Which Travis walked Donna down and sat in our seat, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then all of you guys walked down independently.

Yes. Yeah. It was a good time. We were chill. What was your first impression of Travis? I literally, I know, I met him before the wedding. I don't remember when I met him, but his issue with condiments. You took beef with that.

Yeah, I definitely took beef with that. I was just like, hmm, like you need condiments. To make food taste better. Yeah. Like you do just need it. But I don't remember when. I probably met him like at a game or something. Oh, you might have.

Yeah. But yeah, the condiments thing, didn't know if I could trust him after that. I just feel like. She's dead serious. It's naughty and sneaky. Noddy and sneaky. Maybe that's where I got it.

Were there any? choreographed dances. No. Oh, well, they told us we had to walk in dancing, and that's when we looked at each other, and we were like, mummer strut, and then that's when we went out. Oh, into the reception. No, is it, though.

Yeah. Yeah. I will say, we are wedding, I feel like, appropriately conveyed us as people. There was good food, there was good music, but other than that, we showed up. And that was a win. Burr and I had a blast when we were getting ready.

Do you remember accidentally walking into the Miami Heat's breakfast when we were in nothing but robes? Thank you so much for bringing this up. So I actually am on record with our team, our not going to lie team, by sharing with them that I have a longstanding beef with Dwayne Wade. That, you guessed it, Dwayne Wade actually knows nothing about. And to be clear, I would like your, I would like you guys to weigh in on this because I feel very strongly about this. We were going down for the wedding.

Right? So everyone is, I am in a wedding dress with a veil on the back of my head. We have all four bridesmaids and the wedding planner, Sarah, in the elevator with us. And we just don't happen to get on the elevator with Dwayne Wade. And here's the problem that I have with that. he didn't say a goddamn word which is crazy there is a bride

and her brides in the fucking elevator with you you are in an enclosed space and then you didn't say a word he probably was like regretting every step he took to get on that elevator he was probably sitting there like why didn't I just let the door close

that shit blew my mind yeah okay just thinking realistically if you guys were to get into an elevator with a bride and four bridesmaids what's happening. I'd be like,

oh my God, are you getting married? This is so exciting. Are you in love? Are you in love? You would ask you. Because if you're not I'll drive to getaway car.

Are you sure? I can help you if you need it. Yeah, I would definitely like... She says as a happily married woman with her second child on the way. Hey, are you good? Do you want me to take you away from here

far, far away? Listen, you should always double check, right? Like you got to make sure. I mean, I do feel like we all had that like, hey, last chance. Yeah. I'll get you out of here like it never happened. What do you want? Do you want to run or do you want to do a shot?

Yeah, you're saying it. Let's do it. Right. Maybe he thought you were running and was like, I can't. Oh, don't want to bring it up. Yeah. Sure. We'll go with that.

That's so nice if you gab. What was Kylie like on the wedding day? Was I calm, anxious? You were calm You were chilling Yeah Oh you were I got a video

Of you two dancing While you're eating a bag of chips We were watching something out the window There was a lot of entertainment At the fountain Yeah There was a lot going on out there Yeah you were calm

You were just At some point you did help me Adjust my spanks Because you got a picture of No because you're Belly button ring Yeah I had to take it out

Is that what you were doing? Yeah Huh Yeah There is a photo of me holding my boobs into my dress, Burr's hands completely in the dress with me. And of course, God was capturing it for later.

Yeah. Yeah, no, it was the ring. You were very calm. I feel like the only concern was like looking natural. Like you didn't want to look like someone that you weren't. That was the biggest concern of the day. But you did look beautiful. So it all worked out.

Thanks, guys. I will say we, we nailed the coordination because our wedding lacked luster, we'll call it. We did nail the coordination of the entrances for Burr's wedding. Oh, yes. Now, Amber, in true Amber fashion, got married on April Fool's Day. And so the entrances into her wedding, first of all, instead of her coming down the aisle first, there was a clown on a unicycle. I'm not kidding. That's not, I'm not exaggerating. That for real, for real happened. And then the entrances into the reception, what were you guys? Can you say the inflatable pigs? No, we were the dinosaurs, the drunk people with the dinosaurs. Yes. But this was a surprise to you. Yes. You had no idea we were doing this. Yes. I had no idea. That was a stellar lineup. I was a gorilla and my partner was a banana in a full gorilla suit with heels.

Chloe was the There was the pigs Chloe was the pigs inflatable pigs Yeah Because you always said That you would get married When pigs fly

Yes Yes And then for Gab's wedding We got to give a joint toast Oh that was good That was epic Yeah We had props

We did have props And I feel like we kind of nailed it Yeah Yeah I felt good about that There were handcuffs involved It was fun There was a whistle

Yeah There was a whistle That was safety vest A safety vest Because Gab's driving is shit I'm from jersey. I literally, wait, when I was just parking here, I thought like, oh, let me make sure, like, hey, if you have enough room. I was parking and I was like they literally made me park last.

It's not good. Yep. What was it like witnessing the viral moment from the wedding? Queen Emma has the clip right here. It's Aunt Judy. There was anyone in attendance who has caused to believe that this couple should not be joined in marriage. Just shut the fuck off. Oh, yeah.

She's just a legend. We don't care. She is a legend. Shout out to Aunt Judy, the best, Kelsey. Everybody knows that. My favorite part of this clip, but I don't know if you can see it in that social clip, but my favorite part is that she had mentioned

doing this at the rehearsal the night before. And so all four bridesmaids, when she starts to say it, everybody looks right at the audience to be like, yeah, fucking wait for it. It was so, like the anticipatory, like, You guys aren't going to believe this shit was so good. What was it like witnessing that?

It was on par. Just incredible. Yeah. It was on par. Lived up to the hype. Number seven, what was your favorite moment from being a bridesmaid in our wedding? I liked the night before after the rehearsal dinner when we had to go find your marriage license. I might have forgotten that. It was like 11 or something.

We got back from the Reading Terminal. and you were like, I don't have these papers. Come on. And we got in your car and tore apart your house until we found them. That was fun. I don't even remember that. Yeah. I have the video of you in the Lower Marion dog costume because it was after the Super Bowl.

Yeah, for underdogs. And you're dancing with the mascot head on as Kylie is trying to find her marriage. All right, that's it. For Can I Be Honest, Part 2. We'll be back in roughly three minutes with the game. You're not going to want to miss. Spoiler alert, it involves Flip Cup. Oh, no.

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means one thing. Amber, Gab and I are playing a special NGL version of Flip Cup called, oh no, Truth or flip. Oh, no. But since we're all technically adults now and recording this for eternity, we're going to play this game with Alipop. Shout out to Alipop and not beer. First of all, I don't even like beer. I don't, you...

It's okay. Yeah. You do like beer. I did. She dabbled. She said I did. I dabbled. But the stakes are as high as ever because in the middle of this table, we have a lot of

have a pile of questions written by the NGL team. These questions are really for Kevin Burr and I don't want to be left out. So I'll flip cups alongside you guys. God damn it. This is going to be great. I'm so excited. Should each person get at least one pass? We'll say one pass.

Or are the questions about you? Are they about me? Okay. I think we should all get a pass just for safety. I think we should get a pass for safety. All right. We'll get a safety pass. Okay.

But we don't have to use it. Damn it. Okay. What are the stakes? What do they win? What does the person who wins win? What does the winner win? What do you guys want?

Because I'm going to lose. And so this is what would benefit the two of you. You have to do an episode in your full-on beauty pageant. You're a dickhead. You're a fucking dickhead. Tiara and sash. I don't even think. I have it.

I trust Queen Emmett to find you a new outfit. Where you could go to like one of the times we modeled and pull out one of those outfits. Stop talking. Oh my gosh. I knew this is going to be a problem. Before there was Kiana. There was Kylie in Center City, Macy's. Oh, my God.

I forgot about that. With the, me and the ball girl. Stop talking. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh my God. I don't think there's photo evidence. Yeah, there is. I'll send it to them. Mother.

Yeah. We're going to be besties. My world is crashing. Everything's falling apart. Okay. All right. Here we go. Okay.

It's down up, down. Cheers. Down up. Cut this. Can't wait to see the blooper reel. Down up, down. I win. Does Kylie have any nicknames the world does not know about?

Hmm. Mm-hmm. Not me waiting desperately to see if they remember. Um. Oh, no. I don't know if this is a nickname. That we were just talking about. I don't know if this was a nickname or like this was like self-proclaimed.

Oh, no. What is this? You. You. Oh. That was self-proclaimed. Amber Marshall. Boniorno.

They're going to have to cut that, I think. That's a pass. That is a past. Fuck you and that's a past. Here we go. Oh, wow. Wow.

What was a nickname? It's about to get ruthless up in here. All right. Down. I'm walking here. Are they going to answer this? Yeah. How long on average does it take Kylie to respond to text?

Oh my Lord. Three to six months at times. Well, after how many follow-ups? Yeah. That's a good question. And also depends on the time. Like, we can get you sometimes when the kids go to sleep. You got to be strategic.

Yeah. Yeah. When I'm rolling, we're in. Yeah. If it's like emergency, call. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Also, seven to ten businesses.

Okay. There's a lot more questions. All right. It's a lot of bubbles. We're going to have to switch to water. Nailed it. Dang it. She didn't even...

No, my mind. It was a little more I got there. Okay. We can't even answer that. Nope, pretty sure we can't answer the. this funniest thing that happened at Jason and Kylie's wedding. Let's just run with it and then we'll bleep all of it. Great.

Funniest? Funniest thing that happened at Kylie and Jason's wedding. Where does your brain go? I feel like we're in the same place. Gab? Are you biting your lips? Just thinking. I feel like the dance floor.

Specifically. Say it. There was. Who almost showed her. Also funny, when I almost had to, we won't tell you who, but when I almost had to punch. Yeah, I forgot about that. That was not good. Ha-ha.

You didn't even talk back out. Oh, what NGO guest are you the most shocked agreed to sit down with Kylie? I feel like, personal attack. Not surprised they agree to talk. to you, but it's, I think it's as your friend who's known you since before the podcast, it's very weird to see you interviewing certain people that we're fans of. Okay, tell me who. Oh, I freaked out over, well, Alona Marr, big fan of her.

Michelle Obama. Yeah. What the fuck? Oh, yeah. That was shocking. Yeah, the fuck are you doing? Like Avril Levine, Demi Lovato. Yep.

All them. Yeah. Yeah, but you're great. That's good. Okay. But you're great. She'll tell me later how I'm not. Well, it's saying humble, Kylie. Is that right?

Yeah, we have to do that. That's why I love you. What, if anything, has changed about Kylie since she became, Emma wrote L-O-L on this. So I just want to be clear. It says, L.O.L. A total celeb. This was not my words. I would not call myself that. I wouldn't even call myself a Z-lister. I'm good. What is the answer to the question? What about you has changed? Yes. If anything. I'd say nothing. I think you're like accessibility. Like just you're busier. Oh, yeah. And I have to be more careful just like showing.

up at your house. You think security's going to take you out? Well, sometimes, like, remember when Wyatt was like, there's somebody at the window and you're like, don't make eye contact. She's like, no, I think it's hamper. That's true. Our kids are trained now.

Like, when someone knocks on the door, they all do what we were trained to do when we were growing up, which is sling down. Sling down. I would like the record to show that Gab said nothing. have said. Off the accessibility, it's like being friends with where in the world is Carmen San Diego or remember that game?

Yes. Because I'll be scrolling on Twitter. And it's like, oh, she's in the Eritory's tent with Tom Cruise. Yes. She met the royal family. It's just like, okay. I do love those texts when it's typically like, hey, Kai, anything you want to tell us? I'm like, hmm, I don't know, not today.

You're like, where the fuck are you? And I'm like, Milan Fashion Week? Yeah, I don't know. Oh, shit. I forgot what we were doing there. I'm crushing it. No.

Oh. The bottom of this says, it's getting sincere in here. Uh-oh. Oh, no. What makes Kylie such a great friend? I'm not. I don't even answer a fucking text.

That can be the answer. You can say what she said. I think it's that you genuinely care like to invest time in your friends and like genuinely care about like what does go on in our lives, whether it's like minuscule or big. Yeah. Like just a normal. Normal friend. Yeah, you're just always someone that you can go to and talk to and, you know, no matter

what it is. There's no judgment. Anything like that. And there's a sincere, sometimes abrasive response. Gab likes to use that word against you because I've been called abrasive once or twice in my life. Do we just rapid fire some of these questions now? Love it. Rapid fire.

Okay. What is something maybe only Kylie's close friends know about her? Have you talked about your Transformers obsession? Nope. Thank you for bringing that. You have the Optimus Prime voice-changing mask. Yep. And that was the only tattoo you've ever wanted.

Uh-huh. It is. These are all facts. Describe Kylie's dorm room as honestly as possible. Oh, my God. Like a disaster. Yeah. You had a sofa bed so you and Jason could be comfortable.

Yeah, but remember? Like, it was like messy. It was just moving the piles of. Yeah. I live my life in piles. Yeah. I do. I mean, look at my house now.

I live my life in piles. Yes. To be fair, my ADHD allows me to compartmentalize and decide which pile is it's in and how far down it is. And I've been that way my whole life. So. Yep. Not wavering on that one. That tracks.

Memory from college, you won't let each other live down. Ugh. I do think there's something special about. we could recall, I would say the vast majority of the crazy shit that happened in college. And by crazy shit, I just mean like the everyday shit we were doing in college. And I don't think it's any crazy or less crazy than other college experiences. We could very easily be like fairly even for just like either ridiculous stories or things were like, hey, maybe let's let's not tell our kids about that.

And there's, like Gab said, no judgment whatsoever. Yeah. Yeah. We'll tell the girls later on. Yeah. That's fine. I'll probably tell them to. What is something you're shocked Kylie actually said on this podcast?

Ooh. They wouldn't know they don't watch the podcast. I watch, but I'm not shocked by anything that you've said. Yep. Because you're always a little unfiltered. A little. That was very nice. said a little.

Yeah. Wow. Mm-hmm. Do you watch? Yeah, but I wouldn't say shocked that you actually said. I would say maybe sometimes I'm shocked with things that you don't say. Like, I'll be shocked like, hmm, you took a gentle approach on that one. Like.

Because I've said what I needed to say in the group chat. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. And like sometimes it's weird when you like tell a story, like the one story. Remember when Jason was on like SNL? Yes.

I don't know. I think you told it on the podcast. But you were like telling the story about like that time that happened. I'm like, oh yeah, I remember those texts. Yeah. I was murdered. Did you honestly think Jason was the one when they first started dating? Did I think that about him?

No, probably not. Not right away He fell asleep on the table Oh, okay So not after the first Not after the first time meeting him Right I think after the bear incident

I was like All right there's a chance So Jason is still in my phone As Grizzly For those who don't know Legitimately his contact in my phone We can pull this up Here we go

don't take his phone number though my husband is in my phone is grizzly because we Amber and I had a radio show at school that we called him the bear in the woods which I'm still not sure how we ended up with that because he looked like one

I don't know but in the woods was somewhere else wrote a bear day it feels a little redundant right No, squirrel and tree was, yeah, what was ours? Turn up Tuesday. It was turn up Tuesday. Gosh.

Yeah. What a time. What time to be alive. That's when you thought. No, I was saying. She's talking about a different time. The Valentine's Day there. Yeah.

And he sent it to your house. Oh, talk about a full panic. Yeah. Wow. Because your mom got it. And just put in your, room. Yes. And didn't say anything. Didn't say a word. And then you text us and we're like, OMG, and we were like, yes, she knows. She definitely saw that and definitely read it. And now she

knows. And Lisa is smart enough. She actually searched the phone number. So she was like, what are you doing talking to someone in Ohio? Mm-hmm. They didn't know, though, for like two more months. I know. We did a good job. It was a while. But I feel like that was like a bold move. Like I was like, okay, like, you know, maybe he's here for, he's here for it. Yeah. So maybe after that, I was like, all right. Yeah. I think, I think the assumption at the beginning was that it was all fun in games.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And by that, I mean, we're just having fun. Yeah, for sure. And then. Then all of a sudden, he realized. Then all of a sudden, I was like, ah, shoot. We're hanging out like two, three days a week, sometimes two days in a row.

Yeah, once he hit that in a row. In a row was the bit, that was like the threshold where I was like, ah, shoot. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Well, there's that. All right, I think we got through all the questions we could. That's a wrap on truth or flip.

And that's a wrap on our Galantine's Day special. Yay! Thank you to Amber and Gab for joining. I mean, I feel like you guys are going to have approximately five minutes of usable footage from this. Because we had a little bit of roasty, toasty, John.

Reminder, I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode from Milan at the Winter Olympics. I can't wait for you guys to find out who our special guests will be. And remember this Tuesday's FAAFO snowboarding. Make sure to tune in right on NGL YouTube channel. Listen and subscribe to Not Gonna Lie, Live, wherever you get your podcast, follow the show on all

social media at NGL with Kylie. Not gonna lie is a Wave Original brought to you by Covergirl. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in. You posted the van. Yeah. When your friends, they get onto the Cabrini shuttle. Jesus Christ.

With her leaving Jason. Oh, yeah. That was the outfit. That was. Oh, yeah, that was. Straight out of Compton. That's old. Straight on a donkey.

Wait, I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Asholes. Fucking. Assholes.