Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce - Kylie on Who She’s Rooting For in Super Bowl, Mile Gut Checks & Vogue Cover with Gabby Thomas | Ep. 8
Episode Date: January 30, 2025Kylie’s back for a new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Dunkin’ and kicks things off by reacting to fan submissions for the official name of the NGL fan base (1:58). Keep your ideas coming an...d tag us @nglwithkylie on social! Then, Kylie gets honest about feeling conflicted about the Eagles-Chiefs Super Bowl rematch and answers the question everyone has been asking: who will she be rooting for in New Orleans (4:02)? Kylie also debuts a new segment: Doomscroll of the Week where she weighs in on Phillies first baseman Bryce Harper’s new TikTok content creator era (10:25). After that, three time gold medalist sprinter and “Vogue” cover star Gabby Thomas joins Kylie to talk about her time at the Paris Olympics and all the events they got to take in (15:35). Kylie also asks Gabby about the biggest misconceptions about sprinters vs. distance runners (20:23). Gabby and Kylie then discuss the recent viral clip of USA Rugby star Ilona Maher telling an interviewer that she does not have imposter syndrome (25:40). Gabby shares her thoughts as a fellow elite athlete often faced with that question. Plus, Kylie asks Gabby about her reaction to finding out she was going to be on the cover of Vogue (31:04) and if track meets need to start incorporating tunnel shots for pregame ‘fit moments (32:45). Kylie and Gabby then discuss their shared experiences working with kids on the autism spectrum and Gabby delves further into her work at a volunteer health clinic in Austin (37:30). As always, you can find even more exclusive, never-before-seen clips from Kylie’s conversation with Gabby Thomas on YouTube on Monday. Make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss a thing! . . . Support the Show: DUNKIN’: Try Kylie’s favorite Butter Pecan Iced Coffee at your local Dunkin’! Order in store or order ahead of time on the Dunkin’ app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Coming up on today's episode, I'm going to get honest about the birds making the Superbowl.
Then I'm going to debut a brand new segment, Doomscroll of the Week.
This week, there's an unlikely but delightful new TikTok influencer in the Philly area I can't wait
to talk about.
After that, I'm excited to be joined by three-time gold medalist, sprinter and Vogue
cover star, Olympics legend, Gabby Thomas.
You guessed it.
I have no business talking to her either, as per usual.
But before I get to that, you guys have been asking nonstop
pretty much since we launched the show what the name of our fan base should be. I do have
a few of your suggestions here to get the ball rolling. Should call watchers, groupies,
fans, the Kyliers? Here's the only problem I'm having with this. I need clarification on how we're pronouncing this.
Kylier, Kyliers.
I'm unsure that I know the direction you're leaning.
So let's clarify that.
Victoria Smith says, Princess Squad.
Victoria, I really appreciate your suggestion,
Victoria Smith says, Princess Squad. Victoria, I really appreciate your suggestion, but princess is one of those words that just feels like a thess of Delco. I am so flattered by these
names that I do not personally identify with either of them. Angela Miller, 3911, wrote,
not going to liars. That's not bad. We've also seen the liars. I feel like that actively
negates what we're trying to do here. So we should probably go a different direction.
And from Brittany Arts, if we aren't referred to as Kylie's Queens, I'm gonna be real mad.
That's honestly not bad. But what about all the Kings that are tuning in?
I've actually had quite a few men out in public tell me that they listen, which
thank you so much for being here.
So I don't know if we can specify Queens because we don't want to exclude the Kings that are here for the fun.
NGLers for now, please send in your best suggestions.
Tag us at NGL with Kylie.
Then maybe we put it to a fan vote.
We'll see.
Moving on, it's officially time to get honest and more specifically, it's time to get honest
about the birds.
But before I get into it, I just want all the people who tagged me in the video of the
woman spreading holy water outside the link to know I saw it. I just want all the people who tagged me in the video of the woman spreading Holy
water outside the link to know I saw it and I loved it. I love that she knew that that
was what she needed to do. Queen Emma once again, show them my people.
We're here today to come and make sure that we bless all of our players
that we brought our own Holy water to lay out on the field. If we get to it. I love
that her accent in this clip only further solidifies how perfectly this sums up. Eagles fans, yes, it was holy water. Okay. And that is all it
will be referred to as. And again, I'm not saying that it worked, but the Eagles are going to New Orleans. All right, guys, let's get into it.
It happened.
The Eagles and Chiefs are back in the Super Bowl.
I'll start with the Eagles.
I was at the link to see the game this Sunday.
I was jumping up and down much to the displeasure of the child in my womb. She did let me know that that was unacceptable.
And I will be trying my best
to keep my feet firmly on the ground.
Last time I was out on the field with Jason
post NFC championship.
This year, I was there at the end of the game. I got to see the confetti
fly and then we snuck out before everyone else left their seats because we got home
in a record time while everyone else was still watching the ceremony. The idea of we were right in field seats, the idea of going onto the field felt
very odd because I was there celebrating as a fan. So it would have been weird had I stepped
onto the field. And also I wasn't there with Jason. Jason was in Kansas City. So my dad
and I, big and I just snuck out. I did in
fact make it home in time for bedtime. Wyatt was very pleased with that. And so was I,
because I love an early bedtime. It was three o'clock games. Perfect. Thank you to the NFL.
We could do more of those in less of the eight twenties if you're listening.
Thanks so much just for next season. Consider it. All right. And now the elephant in the
room. Obviously this time when the Eagles play the chiefs, it is a little bit different because my husband is retired from the Eagles. That being said,
I am so happy and proud of Travis and the Chief's accomplishments. I think that the
opportunity to play for such a historic milestone is incredible to be able to potentially witness. And I think that Travis has been there
for his entire career. He has worked so hard and put in so much time that I am truly, as always cheering Travis on.
And I love him, he's my family.
So I will always cheer on Travis's accomplishments
and hopefully successes.
That being said, I was raised to bleed green.
I was raised to bleed green. I have friends who are still associated with the team. I have a close relationship with a lot of people in the Eagles organization. I get to live in the Philadelphia community.
So I will also be cheering
for the success of those people.
Ultimately, the plan is to go to the game
and to cheer.
I will say, we have made moves to get the girls
go Uncle Trav shirts because they love their uncle.
And of course, they love cheering him on. And to be fair,
they love cheering on the birds too. Um, but he is our family and, um, I want to make sure that the
girls feel included, but I will add on that any other week when I see Chief's fans, I will tell
them, go Chiefs. I will not be saying that for the next two weeks. I can't bring myself
to do it because then it feels as though I'm actively wishing it against. Yeah, no, can't. Ah, this is hard. I don't
like this. I'm not having fun. Like I'm having fun independently. I'm having fun as an Eagles
fan. I'm having fun as a Travis fan. It's hard. This is hard. I don't like it. I don't like it, but also it's very
exciting, but I'm mad about it. I feel like I'm having a manic episode. Okay. That does it for
Can I Be Honest. Moving on. The Eagles aren't the only Philadelphia athletes making headlines this week. We've
also been treated to an unlikely new food influencer. Phillies first baseman, Bryce
Harper. Not only can he smack the shit out of a baseball, he can also apparently bake
the shit out of some banana bread. Let's take a look.
My wife actually got me this for Christmas.
Got a mixer for Christmas.
So this is not a new era.
It's just a new era of him sharing it with us.
To be clear.
Oh, we're gonna start with one and a half cup of flour.
I actually use, or we use, camout flour.
I'm sorry, what kind of flour?
I use Celtic salt.
Oh.
Can anybody hear?
Irish. Wet ingredients into the drying.
Yes.
Look at him with his Christmas mixer.
This is a phenomenon that I'm interested in.
People make it pretty by putting the banana on top.
It's fire dog.
Oh my God.
It's fire dog. Oh my god. It's fire dog. Did I hear that right? It's fire dog. It's fire dog. I love that so much. When I give my kids freshly baked banana chocolate chip muffins, I want them to tell me it's fire dog.
Ellie did tell me, yeah dude,
when I asked her this morning if she wanted a muffin,
but that's not nearly as cool as it's fire dog.
I absolutely love watching recipe videos.
I would be absolute trash at a recipe or cooking style TikTok series.
I am not an aesthetic. I hesitate on even calling myself a chef. I am not an aesthetic cook. I am horrible
at baking because I don't like having to follow exact recipes. I will say that some of my
go-to recipes, like my repeat recipes are meatballs because sometimes my kids eat them.
Well, two out of three will eat them, which is really anything that I make.
Chicken noodle soup from scratch is something that my mom did growing up.
I feel very spoiled about that one, but I will regularly make it over the winter because
it's just like a warm cozy hug. I will make banana chocolate
chip muffins, but that's only because I feel guilty about the number of bananas that go
to waste in our house because our kids will eat 17 bananas within a three day period and
then I will buy bananas in that quantity and then
they'll decide they actually hate bananas. So then we have all the bananas just waiting
to be eaten. If there was a Kylie cookbook, which I'm not sure there would be enough pages to make a book. Queen Emma is asking, would we call
it Delco delicacies? Maybe. Kylie's fucking cookbook? Yes. A collection of recipes and
shit. Mom dinner with Kylie Kelsey. That could be a good one. Fuck around and cook with Kylie.
How did I get roped into a cookbook by Kylie?
That sounds very on-brand.
Or holy shit, please just eat this.
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She's a three-time gold medalist representing Team USA track and field. She set eight all-time
Harvard records in women's track. She was just on the cover of Vogue. She's also got degrees in neuroscience, global health,
and is a major advocate for health equity.
Gabby Thomas, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.
Thank you, what a great intro.
I always like hear my intro back and I'm like, what?
It's honestly such an impressive resume.
I was so lucky to be able to attend the Paris
Olympics as a fan. We sadly did not make it to any of the track and field events because
you guys were a little bit later. But did you get to check out any of the other events
while you were there or because you guys were later, were you just sort of focused until competition?
Yeah. So, I mean, like you said, we were so late. And I think one of the hardest parts
of the Paris Olympics for me was literally getting there early because we have to get
there early for relay camp and then watching everybody else compete. And we're there watching and we're
still enjoying it, but it is so stressful.
I remember watching the gymnastics athletes and watching them go and they did so well
and they crushed it and they were on the podium and they got their medals and I was like,
Oh, I'm so happy for them. But like, Oh my God, this sucks. Because I'm like, they're
done. They got it over with and I'm still sitting here like stressed out so much
pressure. And I can't even like enjoy the feeling of like going and supporting the other athletes
and watching them because I'm like, I need to get back and rest. But like I need to go eat or I need
to go practice. And so that was really difficult, I think. And then for me, like the 200 is really
one of the last track events too. So I'm watching
all of my track and field teammates compete and run. And I'm like, well, great for them. Like,
love that for you. But literally still freaking out over here. Like I'm having mental breakdowns.
And then I had the relays after that. So I had the four by one and then the four by four, which is
truly the last track event. And like, the last day of the Olympics. So I was enjoying it a little bit, but also very
much stressed for the entire two week period. Um, but I went and I saw women's rugby because
huge. Yes. Yes. That was so much fun to watch. That probably was my Olympic highlight. So have had you ever seen rugby sevens before?
Yeah, so I had seen it before. So my boyfriend actually plays rugby. He plays club rugby.
So I became a huge rugby fan. I watched the Netflix doc and everything, but I hadn't seen
so much of the women's rugby. And I mean, I've always been a fan of Alona ever since
honestly the Tokyo Olympics because
her social media presence is everything. So I watched like a little bit, but I genuinely feel like this was the year of women's rugby. And like, even before the girls started playing,
we have like a mixed practice. So we have like track and field girls go to the rugby practice.
And we like taught the
rugby girls. It was so cute. We taught them how to do handoffs with the baton. We did
like team bonding exercises together. It was so cute. We definitely like we didn't tackle
or anything for that. I was not about to tackle, but it was really fun.
Let's talk some more about running because you did something very, very few people have ever done,
which is win three gold medals in track in the same Olympics.
Which of those three gold medals means the most to you? I think I know the answer.
I mean, that's a no brainer for me. It's going to be my individual 200 meter
medal. I mean, the relay medals are incredible. I love them. You get to be part of a team,
which is a little bit different for track and field. But that 200 meter medal, like, metal. I mean, the relay metals are incredible. I love them. You get to be part of a team,
which is a little bit different for track and field. But that 200-meter metal, that's
so many years in the making.
And I know I was out there by myself running it, but it really is a team effort that goes
into it. And that's something that you don't think about a lot with track and field. It's
like I was representing so many people on the line, like my coach, my physio, like my training partners, my like
sports psych, my agents, everyone, like my family and friends who helped me get to the
line. And so that's what I felt like was like embodying that moment. And so it just, I don't
know, it meant so much. And it wasn't even about the one race, right? It's about like,
the years of preparation that went into it, all the hard work, all the sacrifices. And it wasn't even about the one race, right? It's about the years of preparation
that went into it, all the hard work, all the sacrifices. And I felt all of that in
that one moment. So, I mean, that's my favorite.
I'm not going to lie. I am on record as saying I am the furthest thing from a runner. I have
said a number of times, unless I'm chasing something or running from something, I'm not running.
Do you have, have you ever run a mile? Do you have like a timed mile or something?
I couldn't even tell. So I played field hockey, but I played field hockey division three,
which was outstanding. It was the perfect fit for me. I got that work life balance.
I knew I was not going to continue to play field hockey professionally. And we competed
at a high level at the school that I was at.
So I loved being there and competing, but it does not translate to being a runner.
Again, at field hockey, it's like I'm either running from someone or I'm chasing someone
or a ball.
And for that, I can be like, I have purpose, right?
Like I have something to go get.
But which is funny because
I'm 5'11". Like I have a pretty long stride. You would think that like I could cover some ground.
Yup. Yup. It wasn't meant to be. I will say in high school, I was a track and field athlete,
very much a field, the field side of things. So I through shot put discus and javelin,
which it stayed in high school where it should have been.
I can't see it. I would not have guessed that.
I loved disc. I loved throwing disc because I was long and it helped. And my coach sort of told me that I was only allowed to throw disc if I also
threw javelin because I did not like javelin. It was a bargaining chip. We showed up to
practice. We did some technique and then we ate snacks. That was right on par with where
I was at with my track and field situation.
That's classic high school. But I will say, if I had to guess you did any event track,
it would be pole vault. And I don't know if the track and field community hears this,
they might, yeah, I'm curious to know what they would think. I want to hear what they
think.
I love that because I always say, I always used to say that I think pole vaulters had
to have one screw loose. You have to be like a little nutty. I say the same thing about field hockey goalies. You have to be
a little nutty to voluntarily do that. I firmly believe that.
That's so true. That's so true.
The Paul Vaulters that we had at our school were some of the coolest people. Our Paul
Vaulton coach was one of the coolest men I've ever seen in my life. But I feel like you got to be like a little, just one screw loose.
100%. 100%.
Yes. And you've said a number of times the difference between sprinting and distance
running are very, it's a wide, wide gap there. What are the biggest misconceptions about sprinters?
I love this question because yeah, the biggest misconception of sprinters is that we actually
like we run distances. Like our training, I would say the most you would do as a sprinter,
and this is like the groups that do the most running ever. Like you're running maybe 500. And that's on the long side. So like 500 meters might be like, you
know, a lap around the track plus a little extra bit. But we are not doing... We're not
going for jogs. We don't go for runs. I don't do trail runs. I don't do any runs on the
street. It's like I go to a track and I do my sprint workout, which is really fast running and I go home. I do a
mile gut check like in the fall and that's not even, that doesn't benefit me. It's a
mental exercise. It's kind of like a therapeutic thing that my coach has us do where we do
a gut check. She wants to see how hard we can go, how far we can push ourselves. And
that's it. And I mean, I ran a PB of a 543, like maybe two months ago, which was
huge for me. But the distance runners are probably laughing. They're watching that like
literally laughing on YouTube. Like, what is she doing? Like, this is not that hard.
But that's so cute.
And they're like, oh, cute. And I'm like, like, oh, I'm like, huffing and puffing. And
I'm like a professional runner. But people don't realize that sprinting is a completely different set of muscles and training. Even
down to our lifestyle, I think sprinters also, they get away with a little bit more than
distance runners do when it comes to just, you know, nutrition and overall discipline.
And I hate to say that, but you do get away with a bit more as you
get older.
It does seem more all-encompassing in your lifestyle that it really does. Just seeing
some of the things on social media of people training for distance, and how they sort of like plan their entire day, not only nutrition,
but then hydration, all of it around their ability to then be able to go for a casual
20 mile run. I'm like, are you guys okay? Are you guys okay?
A casual 20 mile run. Yup. Yeah.
It's like today we got 18.
I'm like 18 what?
Minutes?
Why are we running for 18 miles?
Where are you going?
No.
No, I can't.
Now we discussed your love of Alona Mar, one of your fellow Team USA teammates.
But she was making headlines this past week for saying that she does not
have imposter syndrome.
How do you overcome imposter syndrome?
I don't have that. I feel like I deserve what I've gotten. I think that I've worked very
hard even in the rugby space. It's okay to believe you deserve something because you've
put in the work for it.
Does that hit home for you?
I love what she says. I love that type of confidence because absolutely.
I think that when you earn something,
you should feel like you earned it, right?
You should feel like you deserved it.
And I don't like this idea
that you should walk into a space kind of feeling timid
and kind of giving people the impression
of this immense humility, right?
It's like humility humility is important. But
now if you earn something, embody that. And I definitely get that. On the other side of
that coin, I do feel as though I have been in spaces where I definitely have felt like
I might be in over my head here. And but I welcome that. And I like walking into rooms
feeling that way at first, because it means that I'm challenging myself.
When I first got to Harvard, I mean, I knew I had earned it, but I definitely felt like
I'm a little uncomfortable right now.
Like I'm a little bit in over my head with this biochem class.
Like I'm not sure if I'm going to pass this course, but you figure it out.
Like you enter those spaces and you figure it out and you find a way.
And that's how you become a way. And that's
how you become a winner. And that's kind of how I navigate my life. That's how I navigate
my challenges. When I first moved to Austin, Texas, I joined a group of Olympians and I
was not an Olympian. So I kind of felt like, Oh, I don't know if I'm going to do well here.
Like, let's see. And I figured it out. You just, you figure it out.
So, would I say that I felt like an imposter?
Like, I don't belong?
No, I would never say that about myself.
But would I say that I've definitely been in rooms
where I felt like I was going to be challenged,
where I felt a little uncomfortable?
Absolutely, absolutely.
But I think we all should do that, right? It's how
you grow.
I think it's so beautiful to frame it as when you walk into a situation that you don't necessarily
know that you are quite on that level or sometimes like that moment of like, do I belong in this
space? Just like sort of having that moment to ask yourself the question, but then recognizing if I'm here, I'm meant to be in this space.
And I can rise to meet the challenge and sort of integrate myself in a way that that means
even more so that I'm meant to be here. I think when it comes to athletes specifically
and athletes clearly having more and more,
specifically women athletes having more and more of a platform through social media, it
is so beautiful to see these women who, like you're saying, have worked so hard that they've
earned the ability to be like, no, I do belong here. I do deserve this because it is such an obvious display of I've worked
to get where I am, to be as elite as I am as an athlete. And then the inspiration or
however I am connecting with the community through social media, for whatever reason they're following me,
it is because I put myself in this position for my hard work in athletics. So it's amazing that you
and Alona both have come to realize that, or have known all along that you guys and your hard work
have placed you exactly where you're supposed to be. And now for the finale of our fictional Duncan short film series.
Interior Duncan 2018, Kelsey Wedding.
Kylie wears her gorgeous wedding dress
and holds an equally gorgeous bouquet of Duncan munchkins
while arm-in-arm with her dad, Big Ed.
I'm not gonna lie, Dad.
I'm a little nervous.
Big Ed points to Jason at the end of the aisle, smiling at them.
Kylie can't help but smile back. Kylie takes a deep breath
and she and her dad start to walk down the aisle to a 2000s hip hop track.
Also, I still can't believe Bev found a way to squeeze the whole family into this
Duncan at the last second.
Kylie reaches Jason at the altar. The efficient asks Kylie to recite her vows.
She looks down at an orange Duncan logo notebook.
I can't believe this day has finally come.
While it's not exactly how I imagined it,
somehow it's even better inside this Dunkin'.
We hear awws from the crowd.
Kylie looks back up at Jason
and notices an awesome butter-free can pin on his lapel
in place of a boutonniere. Stunning.
I, Kylie McDevitt, take you Butter Pecan.
Suddenly the music screeches to a halt. Did she just say the wrong name? Jason looks around. He seems ready to bolt.
Did I say Butter Pecan? I meant Jason. Jason, Jason, wait.
Find out what happens next on season two of the Duncan Chronicles.
You very recently were on the cover of Vogue. Unreal. This is, first of all, you looked
amazing.
No, it's unreal. What was your initial reaction to hearing that you were going to be on the cover?
Oh my gosh, I screamed. I think my publicist had called me. Alana called me and told me that I was
going to be. So at first I just, I knew I had a feature. So I was like, oh, this is incredible.
I'm going to be in Vogue. It's amazing. And then I was like, it's a digital cover. And I was like, oh, this is incredible. I'm gonna be in Vogue, it's amazing.
And then I was like, it's a digital cover.
And I was like, ah, this is the pinnacle of my life, right?
And then she calls me with an update
and said I was gonna be on a print cover.
I actually have it right here
because my boyfriend picked up 10 copies.
Amazing.
In Florida.
We love a supportive king.
I know, we love a supportive king.
And I actually, I cried. I was crying because it is something
just truly out of my wildest dreams. When I am training and racing and competing and
working hard, I'm not thinking about these types of things. I'm really thinking about
the process and how to get better each day. And I really do take it day by day. So when these types of things happen, like being on
a Vogue cover, it just feels like all of my dreams have truly come true. And for something
that's a little bit outside of my wheelhouse, right? Like it's not a track or running magazine.
It's this highly renowned fashion cover. So I I mean, I truly felt like I had made it
when I got that phone call.
Now with the NFL, and really the NBA in particular, players are all about their pregame fits. My
husband, Jason is on record saying he doesn't do game day fits. He shows up in like jeans, flip flops and
like a t-shirt.
That's what I love about fashion, right? It's like express yourself.
It's him. It is him. We love that about it. Do you think that we should start getting
some tunnel shots of other sports? Like when you show up to a meet, are you just fully
athletic clothing because you're ready to compete or are you showing up in something that's a
statement or would you just like the opportunity to show up in something as a statement so you can
be like, I'm here? No, I think we absolutely need to bring this to track and field. We've already
started. Last season, we did a lot of our kind of our
own little tunnel shot. It's like, the issue with track is we
don't have a locker room. There's no locker room for us to
go to to change into. So you'll see us like if you watch Noah
Lyles, like he does it at every meet, like a really great fashion
intro. And we'll just kind of go in this quarter potty or like
little small public
corner and yeah go to little corners and just like change into our uniforms
after doing like our flashy walk-in moment so I think that's the trick with
track and field we need like venues that would help us like support that but we
started it and in track like like fashion is everywhere like people in
track and field are very into it it's very ingrained in the track and field culture, at least the sprinters. And even at, we have this new track
league called Atlas and we had our inaugural event last September. And we had a really
dope carpet fashion walk-in. It was sick. Anyone who's listening can just look up Atlas.
It was really cool and everyone did it. And it was incredible. We had a DJ and everything. I mean, it was dope. So I would love to see more of that
in track and field. I mean, I think us athletes would definitely go for it, the women and the men.
I mean, everyone's about it.
I do think it's a cool way to continue to not only be able to express yourself,
but show your personality.
Exactly. Exactly. And really it is a moment of like, I'm here. Yes. I'm here to fuck shit
up. Right. It's a whole mentality. It's a whole mentality. It's a whole mentality. And
that's a big part of track. And what I love about my sport too, is we actually do get
to express ourselves like on the track while we're competing too. So we like, when you look at the athletes, especially the women
who are running, it's like how they do their hair, their nails or jewelry, whatever you
do to your uniform, any of that, like that's part of it. So we're kind of bringing that
expression to the track as well.
So anyone who didn't know, they certainly know now that you went to Harvard, which is an incredible
accomplishment. But you absolutely nailed this. You called someone out in your comments. They
tweeted at you, was this on Twitter? They tweeted at you and said,
Gabby Thomas doesn't sound like she's the brightest out
there. Oh my God. Dan. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. And you replied, you're probably right.
Darn my Harvard degree. I, I cannot tell you how much I support this behavior. I really truly believe that if they're
going to fuck around, you should help them find out. So well done here. Being a woman in sports,
I'm guessing you get something along these lines pretty often. Do you sort of just decide
when you've had enough?
Yeah, being a woman in sport, you're just kind of subjected to this all the time on
the internet. And some days I just have fun. If I'm traveling, I'm on a plane, don't catch
me on that day. Because I'll clap back. And I mean, I'll have fun with it. But it's also
kind of true, right? It's like, okay, I get off your high horse. I'm not sure where you're
coming from, or why you're saying that. I'm not sure where you're coming
from or why you're saying that. And if you read the comments under the tweets, they are absolutely
awful. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I don't have anything to prove to Dan,
but the clap backs are always hilarious. Well, I have to tell you, I wholeheartedly appreciate you
letting Dan know that you can't just say whatever you want
and think that someone is not going to reply with the perfect clap back. So well done.
Thank you. Thank you. Let's talk a little bit more about your college accomplishments. It's
not every day that you come across a superstar athlete who also happened to major in neurobiology.
major in neurobiology. I've talked about this before, but I had a neighbor growing up who was on the autism spectrum that inspired me to do a lot of the work that I do for the
Eagles Autism Foundation. I read that you are also inspired to get involved in the field.
What brought you to that? Yes. So I actually have two neurodivergent brothers, but my younger brother has autism.
And so growing up with that, just kind of understanding how he goes about the world,
how he views the world.
And my other brother kind of noticing how society chooses to interact with that as well,
the different treatment options,
even just the general learning options as well,
just everything that goes with having autism or
any type of neuro-atypical condition.
I was intrigued by that.
I wanted to study it,
I wanted to see what the options were,
and I wanted to go into research. So after my freshman year at Harvard, I did research
on Rett syndrome and one of the labs there. And in my neurobiology studies, I started
to focus a little bit more on kind of the health equity side of health care and medical care and seeing what
the implications were of that and just health inequities and specifically racial disparities.
And so I started to kind of leverage that foundation in neurobiology and apply it more
to global health, health policy. And then that's what brought me to do my master's in public health and specifically epidemiology. So the whole thing has been very rewarding the
entire journey and I've learned so much and neurobiology was definitely one of
the most challenging majors that I could have chosen at the time at Harvard.
But I have no regrets. I have no regrets, just the fact that I don't use
that degree. It's no big deal though. But the time spent on there was great. It was very,
very interesting and fascinating. I've just switched gears a little bit.
Sure. Now, you mentioned your masters of public health and something that you've talked about
is that you currently work in a health clinic
in Austin, is that right?
Exactly.
And what type of work are you doing there?
So the health clinic serves people in the Austin community who don't have access to
healthcare otherwise, whether they don't have health insurance or they don't have easy access
like transportation or any type of, you know,
doctor or healthcare outside of the clinic. So we provide doctors visits, we provide medication,
lab work, anything that they need for their primary healthcare that they just otherwise wouldn't get.
We even offer education seminars and pretty much any dental care, vision care, you name it, the clinic
offers at no cost to the patient. Everyone there, or the doctors included, are volunteers,
with the exception of just a few people on the administrative staff who are getting paid.
My role specifically is I run a hypertension committee. And so this is, this committee serves people
who are hypertensive or pre-diabetic
and making sure that they have access to medication,
that they're getting their medication
and helping them with anything else that they need
in their day-to-day lives.
A lot of times you see issues with transportation,
you see issues with accessing healthy food,
even just having footwear to go for a run, go for a walk, go work out,
just small things like that. But having the consistent dialogue and communication with
the patients, it goes a long way. Because it can be really intimidating going into a doctor's office
when you don't know what you need or what to ask for, even though the doctor is going to be
understanding or empathetic. So actually maintaining a relationship with the patients to understand them holistically and know what they need has been really beneficial.
And just giving it on a community level. Community level work is so important to me because you
see the impact that you're making. It's right there, it's real and it's happening. And it
works. And I think that it really impacts the patients in a real way.
So the work that we do at the clinic is really good.
That face to face interaction is unmatched for just being able to see the progress, right?
And when I was working full time, I went into a high school to work as a one-to-one for students,
either on the spectrum or with special needs. And that sort of every day, face-to-face,
and seeing the progress that was made and the milestones that were hit, that those are,
it is one of the most, selfishly speaking, rewarding things to see because you really
feel like the work that you're doing is impactful and transformational in a way that it's tangible.
It's there right in front of you and it's happening.
So it's unbelievably rewarding.
The last, last thing, what does the rest of your year look like and where can we see you race?
So I am doing Grand Slam Track. It's a new league that's starting in 2025 actually. So
it's an entirely new format, tournament style. It'll be really fun and exciting. I have my
first race, April 2nd in Kingston, Jamaica. And so you could follow along Grand
Slam track and field and then I will have my world championships in September in Tokyo.
And then at Los, which is our women's track league that is also about to be announced.
So that'll be following our world championships. So lots of lots of moving pieces in track and
field this next year. So a of uh lots of moving pieces in track and field this next
year. So a lot of new stuff going on. That's awesome. Well we will make sure that we tune in.
I cannot thank you enough for joining Not Going to Lie today. Thank you. Um I'm so excited to hear
about not only your athletic accomplishments but then to get to hear about the other things that you're doing to give back to your community and applying really your educational background
and applying that to things that are severely impacting
the community that you live in.
So thank you so, so much.
Thanks, Kylie.
Thanks for having me.
I can't wait to cheer you on
in all of your running events coming up.
Thank you.
As always, you'll be able to find even more exclusive clips from my conversation with
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