Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce - Kylie & Robert Irwin on Feeding Dad's Crocodiles, Spicy DWTS Moments & Breastfeeding Biters | Ep. 49

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Kylie’s back with her Season 1 Finale episode of Not Gonna Lie brought to you by Hess! She starts things off by reacting to the latest place she has NO business being: on a billboard in Times Square (3:40)! NYC-based Real Ones, make sure to tag us in your photos with NGL. This then leads us perfectly into “Places Kylie Has *Some* Business Being” to talk about taking the girls to see Uncle Trav play at his home stadium for the first time (5:10)! Then, in “Can I Be Honest?” Kylie gets honest about Santa Claus (don’t worry, not THAT honest) and shares whether or not Jason has dressed up as Santa and her parenting hack that involves calling Santa directly… You're welcome, Real One moms & dads (7:22)!  After that, Kylie breaks down some of her favorite viral videos in “Doomscroll of the Week,” which includes her honest take on Kate Winslet’s comments about embracing aging (12:13), as well as how her breastfeeding weaning journey is going with Finnie (16:14). Spoiler: NOT GREAT.  Also, in honor of the Season Finale, Kylie reflects on some of the funniest moments from her first season of the show by taking a look at her “NGL Wrapped” report that Queen Emma definitely totally didn’t completely make up herself… (20:52) Kylie is overjoyed to be joined by wildlife conservationist, Dancing with the Stars Champion, Bindi’s brother and Terri & Steve’s son: Robert Irwin (30:05)! Kylie surprises Robert with the perfect outfit change and asks him all about the most viral moments from his winning season of Dancing with the Stars (32:55). Robert reveals his favorite dance, the most emotional moments, and the spiciest ones (42:09). Robert and Kylie also talk about the keys to being an incredible “funcle” as she loves the way Uncle Trav plays with the girls, as well as the phenomenon that is “aunt-uncle” privilege in their family (47:25). Robert reveals the heartwarming story behind his Cinderella TikTok with his niece Grace (44:21), and also shares what the two of them get up to together at Australia Zoo.  Speaking of Australia Zoo, Robert tells Kylie about how old he was when he first fed the crocodiles that his dad saved (55:34), and what it was like literally growing up with Jenny the Burmese Python (58:32)! Robert also gives Kylie some very cool fun facts about otters to share with Travis next time they get together (01:02:03). Kylie also applauds Robert for his advocacy for women’s health, particularly when it comes to his sister Bindi and her battle with endometriosis (01:03:46). Robert speaks on the importance of men and women speaking up for women’s health and also shares why he thinks he has such an incredible bond with Bindi.  Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for even more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Robert!  . . . Purchase New NGL & FAFO Merch: https://www.nglkylie.com Support the Show:   Hess: Get the new Stock Car Racers available ONLY at https://HessToyTruck.com CVS: Download the app at https://CVS.com/app Amazon: Shop gifts for everyone at https://Amazon.com  Liquid IV: Go to https://liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first order with code NGL at checkout Bigelow: Take a moment just for you. Check out Kylie’s favorite teas at https://Bigelowtea.com/NGL  Macy’s: Macy’s Friends and Family event is going on now where you can score 30% off best brands + 15% off beauty! Go to https://Macys.com today! Support Wildlife Warriors: https://wildlifewarriors.org.au/donate/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not going to lie, we just got some snow. And it was a good covering for the first time in a couple years. Nothing gets me excited about some winter weather, like the prospect of a little kid in a snowsuit. There is something so captivating about them trying to walk while also not being able to move. Why is it so cute? Let's get this podcast started.

Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie A Wave Original, driven by the Hess Toy Truck. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, firm believer in not doing anything to try and summon a snow day because I'm afraid I'm going to jinx it. Yeah, that's right. I'm not wearing my PJs inside out, backwards, putting things under my pillow. It won't be me. Just got to let the universe do its thing. My husband made me record a Christmas duet one time.

don't look it up do not look it up it's a beautiful song written by a beautiful soul shout out to beve don't look it up i'm so serious stop making that shit viral on ticot cut it out and i can't believe i'm currently recording our nchel season one finale beat you to it i beat you to it that's right it's our last one of season one and for that reason, I'm definitely completely 100% on board with giving. No. Queen Emma is rallying for a clean 75 because it's the finale. Let me tell you how we got to a clean 73. I feel like I've been beaten down. What Queen Emma did is she brought editor Bradden and I can't say no to him. I'm not proud of myself right now and we're going to move on before I change my mind. Season two starts in a few

weeks. So don't worry, real ones. I'm not just going to ghost you guys and never show up again. Have you seen the Britney Brosky gif of her like, huh, hmm, uh, that? No, I'm, we're going to be back. Guys, we already have some guests lined up. I'm genuinely shocked. Anyone agrees to do the show, but we actually have people like on the other side of our break. That's crazy sauce. on today's season one finale. I'm going to get honest, but not too honest, if you catch my drift about Santa Claus. Then you guys know Spotify wrapped. Well, we're doing an NGO wrapped. And look at the wildest headlines that came out of season one. That's so good. That's so good. Oh, I'm so glad we're all dog in this episode. After that, it's an NGO full circle moment.

And my animal nerd self can't believe it. I'm going to be joined right here by I, yet again, another person I have no business talking to, as if his sister wasn't enough. By wildlife conservationist, dancing with the stars, champion, and Bindy's brother. That's right. Robert Irwin, and I'm going to geek out so hard on animal stuff, because when we were done talking to Bindy for a week minimum, I thought to myself, I should have asked her about that. Should I ask her about that animal question? Should talk to her about that animal thing.

Should talk about it. So just buckle up. But before we get into any of that, a truly absurd edition of Places Kylie has no business being. This week, I have absolutely no business, zero, none. Being on a billboard in Times Square, I'm sorry, what? What happened? You said what now?

Guys, what? Huh? Was this for real? This is AI. Not gonna lie, was named one of Amazon Music's best new podcast of the year. And they put us on a billboard in time score to celebrate. That's so dumb. That's a dumb sentence. That's silly, a silly sentence to say out loud. I did not ever think I would be on a billboard. Why the fuck would I be on a billboard, guys? That's a silly question. There's no reason for me to be on a billboard, including this list. What's important to recognize when you see lists like this is that this show would not go off without the incredible team that I have with Not Gonna Lie, although my face is on the billboard, which is silly, because

nobody wants to see that shit. It really is about the team that is with me and has helped me create what NGL has become. So thank you to the real ones for tuning in. Thank you for supporting the work that everyone on our team here at NGL is doing. If any New York-based real ones see this up there in real life, tag us at NGL with Kylie. We'd love to see you posting with NGL. And more importantly, my ugly mug on a billboard. How about that?

Now that was Places Kylie has no business being, which leads us perfectly to my next segment, Places Kylie has some business being. This week, I had some business being at Arrowhead Stadium to watch my brother-in-law's game with my family. The girls had not yet seen Uncle Trave play in Arrowhead Stadium. I did have to explain this to Wyatt and Ellie that they saw Uncle Trave win a Super Bowl. That was exciting after we came down from the sadness for dad. That was, you know, the catch 22. We were sad for dad, super happy for Uncle Trav. But we actually got to go and see him play at Arrowhead, which is his home stadium and has been for his entire NFL career. So that was a really cool moment. It was also super

exciting to get to see friends and family that were there because the girls were so excited to get to watch a game with all of them. They are not that interested in football. To be quite honest with you, they actually yell at us anytime we try and put football on the TV and only get on board after a little while of realizing that they can freely yell. Finney slept for like an hour and a half there. So she's a real one. She actually slept through all the screaming and cheering, which is hilarious to me. There were a couple of people who were like, oh, that's power to her for sleeping. I'm like, have you met her three older sisters? Do you know that this is actually exactly what our house sounds like on any given day at any given time? So.

She feels very at home here. I did see something this morning that someone mentioned that I was wearing eagles gear. Wrong. Incorrect. I was not. I was wearing a new... So sorry. I blacked out for a second.

I was not wearing eagles gear, guys. I was wearing the other podcast sweatshirt, which a few of you noticed. For anyone who doesn't know, I cannot wear another team's logo. not in the NFL. I won't do it. I probably wouldn't do it for any of our other sports either. You're not going to catch me trying to be cool and wearing the New York Yankees hat. It's cool to wear your team. That does it for places Kylie has some business being moving on. Let's get to Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Amazon Shop Gifts for everyone. Since we're a week away from Christmas, I'm getting honest about Santa Claus. Not that honest. But I still recommend pausing if you're around

tiny human ears. Did you kick them out? Are you hiding in the pantry? A closet? The bathroom? Okay. The girls are excited about Santa. They're very excited about Santa. They, um, I will say, why it's getting a little, she's getting a little skeptical, I think. She is very much the type of child who puts enough thought into things, where very soon I fear we will be posed the question, how does he do it? Which my answer is always going to be magic, because that's the only feasible answer. Now, I have not taken them to meet Santa, mostly because, let's be honest, I'm a germaphobe. not me letting you into my anxious thoughts.

I do think that the girls might not cry about sitting on Santa's Lapard, sitting next to him in his little sleigh chair. I don't think they would like it, but I don't think they would cry. Finney would, for sure. Finn would cry immediately. she doesn't care for other people it's really great for me jason has not yet dressed up as santa for the girls and i think we're past that i think the minute jason dresses up as santa why it's going to be like clocked we can't risk it also i'm not sure if anyone else does this but this time of year

i will absolutely use santa to my parenting advantage okay this was so sad oh my god this is so said. I'll call Santa. Okay. Sometimes you got to get, you need a direct line. Okay. I know Nemi's here and the song says Santa's always watching. Okay. He knows when you're sleeping, knows when you're awake, little creepy, but he's watching. Okay. Sometimes you got to get the direct line. Okay. Sometimes you got a hotline that shit to Santa. Um, In an effort to make it believable, because, like I said, I have one that's a little skeptical. I searched to find a graphic of a phone calling Santa. In other words, if I were to be like, I'm really on the phone with him, it would be like a number

and like clearly a hang up button to end a phone call. I'm in the thick of it. Okay? So we're actually, I think we're going to, I think we've successfully created a graphic that will allow you to tell the same lie. Because I did not feel as though there was sufficient graphics available on a quick search of the internet. So we're going to hand it to you.

I want you to screenshot this and use it as like a, look, I'm actually on the phone thing. No, Santa. I don't know. We were just calling a check of there on the number. naughty or nice list. When we did this to Benny, I felt very guilty. She cried, cry, cry, cry, cried while eating her pasta, cry, cry, cried. And then I had to get down on my knees in front of her and explain to her that I swear Santa said she was on the nice list. It was so sad.

So don't make sure that it's a, I think you should do this in a positive way first. which we weren't even like, it wasn't even like a threatening situation. We were just like, you got to eat your dinner. You have to sit at the table at least. And when she kept trying to get up from the table, I was like, I think I'm going to have to call Santa. Wrong. I will tell you, though, he can't talk to kids. That's an important point.

You have to say that, like, you're a grown-up calling. Yeah, it's just, oh, dicey. And last thing on Santa, I have it on very good authority that, like us parents, Santa is also rushing around like crazy this time of year but the good news is we all have help if we need it and not just from the elves amazon will wrap and deliver all the gifts on your list and make last minute gift shopping possible that does it for can i be honest brought to you by amazon next up doomscroll the week brought to you by cvs health okay first up on doom scroll if mayor of east town didn't already prove it kate winslet is a real one she was just on the happy place podcast and spoke

about aging. Queen under the clip. Having a face that moves, having all of the wrinkles that my 50 years hopefully show, that matters a great deal because, again, I want to lead by example. It's important and it matters if we can be decent women in today's world and be kind to ourselves and to others. I think it's important. I love it so much. Please make sure that when I share my feelings on this, so you take it as my own personal

opinion. I'm not here to comment on what others are doing. Women can do whatever makes them happy. Because quite honestly, it's none of my fucking business and it's not my fucking body. Okay. But what I will say is, I love this so much. I love this so much because I am very much in the camp of your face has been telling people how you feel. It has been experiencing your life, your body, your you getting one of the I think one of the prettiest things is crow's feet because typically it is from smiling smile lines it is from feeling joy in your life right I also always like to keep in mind that regardless of my platform which is I feel grateful to have women who will DM me or approach me in person and say that they really appreciate the way I put

myself forward. In other words, authentically, not trying to do something that I am not or do not have or anything like that. But I have four daughters. I have four daughters and I want them to know that they were made exactly the way they were intended to be made and that they should proceed. as such. Okay? And I'm not talking about not dyeing your hair. Girl, these highlights, they were purchased, okay? That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is when I raise my eyebrows because I'm interested in what my children are saying and I have lines in my forehead, it only furthers the expression. Okay? It's like an exclamation point on my expression. If I could not raise my eyebrows, I couldn't be shocked at the shit my kids are saying.

And then they wouldn't know that I'm truly invested in the words that are coming out of my mouth. Do you know what I mean? And on top of that, when they get into their 30s, I want them to be like, you know what? Mom had wrinkles then, too. Because I do. And I earned these suckers, okay? And I'm going to keep them because I like them. Not all the time.

Because sometimes I'm like, oof. girl you are not 24 but you're fucking right oh my god am i admitting that i'm not 24 you're right i'm not 24 i'm 33 years old and this is how my face looks okay i'm i'm i i this is this is how i look and i hope that my daughters and other young women can say confidently that that is how they look. And if they want to plump their lips or freeze their forehead, power fucking to them. But I would like more women to know that it doesn't have to be the new status quo. So Kate Winslet, you nailed that. I love that. We should keep saying that. Next, I'm currently in the midst of weaning Finney. So this TikTok really hit my feed at the right time. I swear to God they

know. It says cutting your breastfed baby off and she runs to her daddy to tattle on you. Doesn't cut it. Daddy booby is what she's saying in case you were wondering. You may have chocolate milk. This is what I'm going to tell you. I sent this video to Queen Emma, and I said, comments, okay? Because at first, I was sad, right? Sad, this baby sad. But this is where it went, this is where it went a little sideways, and I, like always, booked it to the comments, okay?

The first comment that I saw was, we all saw the straw. we're all on team mom okay for my audio listeners the straw is crimped like a fucking piranha went at it okay like someone was just like a like a hydraulic press okay like someone hydraulic pressed the top of the straw okay that shit is banan it looks like it was steamrolled like a fucking fresh concrete okay this thing is crimped so fucking hard And you know what? For those of you that have not arrived at the destination, that could have been mom's nipple, okay?

I would have cut her off too. Now, weaning is not going great because it's not going, but thin's about to cut a tooth. Okay? And as selfish as this may sound, that's where I draw the line. Aggressively. That's aggressively where I draw the line.

That's where I've drawn the line for all of my other children. I've never breastfed a child. Pass them getting teeth. Full disclosure, because I have, I think that this, again, is something that people typically don't talk about because it can be a conscious choice. I typically have breastfed our girls anywhere, from anywhere between seven and eight months.

I think the longest that I've gone for any other child has been maybe a hair past eight months. Right now with Finney, I am, this is the longest I have done it because it will take me at least a couple weeks to fully wean her. And right now, we're right at the threshold of where I think I ended with Ellie. but just to be clear this is my choice and it might not be the choice that other people make and I would like to say because I think it's important to say this I am very fortunate to have been able to breastfeed because I know that that's not always everyone's journey

some people who want to cannot so it's important to recognize that my girls have switched to formula and guess what i have a six-year-old who is learning to read who can write it is she's thriving so anyone who has an opinion about how i choose to go about my breastfeeding journey and therefore my formula fed journey, you can kindly get fucked. You knew it was coming. And also, Fed is best. Let me say it one more time for emphasis. Fed is best. Fed is best, being the best that it can be like the like the uh sponge bob imagination ready we'll do fed is best and get fucked anyway that's it for doom scroll the week brought to you by cvs health robert irwin is coming up but first we have one more segment in honor of our finale we're calling

ngl wrapped it's like spotify wrapped but ngl clever stuff queen emma Our first annual NGL Rapt is brought to you by Liquid IV, tear-poor, live more. We're going to reflect on our first season and check out some of the best highlights from our official NGL-Rapt report that Queen Emma

definitely didn't just completely make up herself. I mean, she did. Starting with the first slide, Queen Emma, what do we have? You said, go birds, 62,000 times this season, 5,000 times in the Hand-I binder episode alone. That number actually feels wide.

wildly accurate. So yes, I will make it 6,2007, apparently. Go birds. Fuck it. Let's do eight. Go birds. All right. Next wrap slide here. This season, your name appeared in 67,000. 67 headlines. That makes sense. It feels right. Oh, 67. I didn't even, that's how you know I don't have kids in middle school. here are the top five dumbest headlines that came out this year. Uh, number one, Kylie Kelsey said she accidentally picked up a literal turd. That's a quote, literal turd with her bare hands. Oh, another direct quote, I raw dogged it.

Someone wrote that as a headline. Are you fucking kidding me? Number two, Kylie Kelsey says she wears a sports bra every day after being named quote, president of the, quote, itty-bitty-titty committee. I said what the fuck I said. Guess what? Bra, sports bra. This is a sports bra.

Look, that was, that was suspicious. It's a sports bra. And the titties are still itty-bitty, even while I'm breastfeeding. Thank you. Number three, Michelle Obama had Kylie, oh no. Michelle Obama had Kylie. Kelsey wiping her, quote, up her lip sweat multiple times. Why do they have to keep quoting me? Really, it feels personal. Feels personal when you quote me. I said it before and I'll say it

until the end of time. I was so sweaty. So sweaty. Sweaty. Interviewing Michelle Obama. I don't know that I've ever been sweatier. And I've played field hockey on a hundred plus degree turf. Number four, Kylie Kelsey blushes as zookeeper jokes about playing Taylor Swift's Wood's song to get tigers in the mood. First of all, put some fucking respect on her name. Her name is Maggie and she's a boss. Okay. Second, it was a great reference. I fucking loved it.

That was hilarious. Number five, Kylie Kelsey introduces new baby on podcast only two days after giving birth. Yep, I did do that. Next slide. Congratulations, you came up with a new catchphrase. Suck my ass. Oh, God, such a good for catchphrase. It's so good.

Here are five things you said could suck or kiss your ass this season. Number one, skinny jeans. Yeah, they can kiss my ass. Two, haunted hay rides. Yep, those can kiss my ass. Three, Dallas. Suck my ass. Four, Gen Alpha.

The fact that we have 21-year-olds, that were born in the 2000s. There are people who can legally drink that were born in the 2000s. And I'm not talking like just 21-year-olds. There are 20-somethings that were born in the 2000s and that can get fucked.

Number five, baby name critics. Yeah, you guys can all get fucked. How about that? Keep it swiping, Queen Emma. What's next? Let's see. You spoke to 45 people you have no business speaking to.

That is correct. One person you're married to and one person who is your husband's mom. That's accurate. By the way, one of those 45 people I had no business speaking to was Caleb Heron. And his podcast, So True, is now officially a Wave series. Yes. Welcome to Wave, Caleb.

Real Ones, make sure you check out So True. And just so you know, stay tuned. There might be more happening with NGL and Caleb. Do we tease it? Do we nail that? All right, Queen Emma, do we have one more slide? Oh, you're an asshole. Hey, girl, you went over the 48 minute rule 18 times this season.

Asshole. Wow, sounds like season two should have a cool 60 baseline, baseline, so that you can then work your way over 60 minutes on a regular basis. What do you think this is? The other podcast? Get the fuck out of here. Absolutely not. You set expectations low.

Here's what, here's a trick to life, okay? Under promise over deliver. Okay? Under promise. It's 48 minutes, guys. And if you get some extra minutes, I'm sorry, it's Queen Emma's fault. The crazy part is, is you're in the same room. And if I want to launch a water bottle at your head, I won't do it because that's aggressive.

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Tear, poor, live more. Go to Liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first order with code NGL at checkout. He's a world-renowned wildlife conservationist. Zookeeper at Australia Zoo, award-winning nature. photographer, famous feeder of crocodiles, a wildlife warrior, and the newest dancing with the stars champion. He's also Bindy's brother, Terry and Steve's son, Grace's funcle, and now he's officially not going to lie. Robert Irwin, welcome to the show. That's, this is like the best intro in history. Oh my gosh, I love this. We had to make sure you got your funkel credit in there.

That's the most important thing. We love funcles around here. I am, I am a funcle through and through and a proud one at that. Oh, my gosh. How are you? It's so good to talk to you. I am so excited. We had the chance to speak to Bindy earlier this year, which is, was one of my favorite interviews.

It just, it was a full circle moment having watched your dad and all of that for a long time. Thank you. And how excited I am also about animal conservation and making sure. that everyone knows that your connection to the earth and animals is something that is truly beautiful and important. But speaking of Bindi, she actually sent me and my whole family our own custom, I'll show you a zoo shirt. So I'm actually going to, I'm going to, I, oh, no way.

Here it is. That we should, that we should, that we should always wear khaki. And so, so I'm just going to, I'm just going to make sure that we have this representative here. No way. I'm so ready to come to Australia. I feel bare without mine. You look more like an Irwin than I do at this point. This is amazing.

I'll represent us. I love it. You can be an honorary Irwin family member any time. And I'm sure Bindy told you. Are you kidding me? It's not just a color, it's an attitude. It is. She did tell me that.

Mm-hmm. And you are repping it very well. um bindi's not going to lie was that she thought we should just get to wear khaki everywhere that we shouldn't have to dress up that that khaki is dressed up enough and i said i'm in say less um i am so in you know it can be you can you can you can make it chic you can dress it down you can dress it up i mean i open up my closet and it's literally khaki khaki or khaki so luckily it's a very versatile color you know i always say if you've you might have to catch a crocodile it at six, but you've got a nice dinner at seven, you know?

Carkey, that's your color. You can do it all. That really, really suits you. Thank you so much. All right. Well, we're going to talk more about animals and the, I'll show you zoo, but first, you're fresh off of your Dancing with the Stars win. So congratulations.

Thank you so much. It still hasn't even really set in. It just doesn't even feel real. It's crazy. Thank you. I love so much that with everything that you're doing, that your messaging stays consistent and that you've taken the opportunity

within your Dancing with the Star's opportunity and other opportunities that you've had to discuss animal conservation and make sure that people know that that is at the forefront of everything that you do. How have you been able to continue to discuss that, especially now that you're a mirror ball trophy winner?

First of all, Thank you so much for saying that, you know, because I feel like no matter what I do, whether I'm in my Carkey uniform like you are right now, or if I am in the sequence of dancing with the stars, my heart always beats Carkey. You know, it always beats that, that Irwin's spirit. And I never thought that I would be able to bring my message and what I stand for, which is wildlife conservation to the world, through a dancing show. But my sister was really the inspiration for me. I watched her. I still remember 11 years old. I was in the audience, in that ballroom,

watching her just lighting it up and sharing this beautiful sense of authentic passion. And I just went, wow, one day I want to follow in those footsteps. And to have that chance was everything to me. I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd make it to the end. No way. Like I was in absolute shock every week. My bags were packed.

I was ready to go every week. And I realized not only am I representing wildlife conservation, but also I'm creating my own kind of legacy. My life has been about continuing the legacy of my mom and dad and my whole family. But through this, I got to really, I guess, tap into a more kind of vulnerable side and tell stories that were a little more challenging, but I hope I kind of got to put a little bit of positivity and passion into that ballroom. Now, was it like a cheat code to have Bindy there cheering you on and also having won it herself? Yeah, well, that's the thing, because like she,

her advice, oh, she's amazing. You've talked to it. You know what she's like, she is so sweet and so kind but then like she's got this old soul and this this real wisdom about her it's amazing so when i first decided to do this i you know dancing the stars went do you want to do you want to be on this season and i just was like yes let's go and then i kind of thought hang on a minute i i might have been a little hasty like i have no idea what to do like what the heck did i just sign up for and i'm talking to bitty i'm like what ah i don't know how to dance i don't know what uh and she when we found out that I'd be partnered with Whitney, she was like, listen, Whitney Carson is the greatest.

You don't have to worry about the dancing thing. She'll be an amazing teacher. You got this. But the best advice that she gave to me was to just let go and lean in. Like that was it. She said, this experience will change your life. And every time when rehearsals after 12 hours a day and you're sore and you're just giving it everything, she just said, remember why you're here.

remember what you represent remember that passion you have remember everything that you're about and remember that this experience is supposed to be hard it's supposed to be a challenge and i just went all right i just got to let go and lean into this absolute hurricane now there were so many emotional moments in the show um i saw them all over my ticot feed including the dance too dedicated yes including the dance you dedicated to your dad where bindi joins at the end i actually I can't watch this one. We were going to queue it up for you, but I actually, I can't do it. So I do. I know. I mean, it just hits you, right in the fields. You, it's, you could feel the emotion and it was such a beautiful tribute. But I do want to ask, did you have a favorite dance that you did this season?

oh that is so that is such a hard question and that one it's like it's like they're all my little children like i love them everyone i love them all and they're all like the the culmination of so many months of all of this time and energy but you know i think there's that one that i dedicated to my dad and and to my sister was was beautiful and then i also did another dance it's just the first one that springs to my mind because it felt so there was like so much gravity and weight on this dance which was a dedication that I I did to my my mom it was dedication week and they said who do you want to dedicate a dance to and I dedicate it to my mum because I felt like she really is the guiding force behind everything that we do

and she's been the glue to hold us together through the most challenging time in our life, particularly when my dad passed. And we did a contemporary dance to You'll Be in My Heart by Phil Collins, you know, from the Tarzan soundtrack, which I cry at that song just listening to it at the best of times. Don't we all? Oh my gosh. But it felt like this moment to say thank you to not only my mum, but to, you know, all of the single parents of the world, all of the moms out there who I feel like.

like, don't always get that recognition and celebration that they deserve because I know my mum worked so hard behind the scenes to keep, to keep us together. And everything that dad was about was my mom. I mean, it was them together. It was my mom and dad creating this legacy. And then when he passed, she was the one person to pick up all the broken pieces and to say, I'm going to make sure everything that he lived for continues on. And all the while, she was just the best mum to us. And to have her in there and part of that dance and to have a dance that was for her that was also made by a mum, you know, Whitney, she's an amazing and powerful mom in her own right. It just felt like this incredible celebration. And it was a turning point for me

because I think it was like week four. And it was the first dance where I was so overcome with just so much emotion that I just kind of let go with the moves and just let my body just sort of do what it felt was right. That dance was just everything to me because yeah, my mom's my hero, you know, she really is. I think that your mom and dad are like the perfect display of a partnership because of the way that she has continued on. The tribute to your mom was beautiful and I'm sure she, I'm sure she loved it. Did she give you feedback? She, oh my gosh, she, it was really cute because she came out at the very end of that dance.

And, you know, my sister was part of a dance for a little, you know, a little eight count there. And she knew what it was about. She'd been on that floor so many times. But my mom was so just adamant that she got it right. And she was, she practiced it. And it was really cute because she was like, I don't want to mess up this dance. I feel like I don't want to be the thing that messes it up. And I'm like, Mom, you can't mess it up.

You got this. And she came out and it was just this really beautiful moment to the little spin. And after that, my mom and my sister and I were all in the trailer after that. And we were all just bawling, you know, because it just felt like someone knocked on our door. Actually, like a makeup artist or something came in and was like, oh, you're ready for, you know, the press line that we do after. and they open the door of the trailer and here we are just all like crying and she just like closes the door again and walks away we were like never mind never mind because it is so you know you've poured your heart and soul into telling a story of like it really was a story of grief and the way

my mom kind of pulled me out of a lot of a lot of challenging times and and I've always felt like I never really had an avenue to say thank you and to really express the gratitude for what she has meant to me in my life. And it felt like it was this time to finally do that. And it was actually one of the most healing moments in my entire life. Because I addressed parts of my grief journey that I'd actually never really tapped into before. I get emotional just even thinking about it. Like I got a, I got a lock in. I'll turn it to a little more of a lighthearted topic because Queen Emma told me I have to ask you about

TikTok night salsa Oh, oh gosh. Okay. I saw that your family didn't know these moves were coming. They didn't. Surprise. And there was a good reason for that because I was like,

every dance that I had done, I would like give my family a little preview. Like they would come to the rehearsal or I'd show them a video. But then this one, there's a point in the dance, where like I remove my shirt and there's a lot of like it's salsa so it's you know it's a little bit spicy and so what a gentlemanly way of say I remove my shirt okay I was like I can't I can't show my fame I don't know so I just went you know what I'm just going to go for it and I said to

them so this one's a little bit edgy and they're like oh that's great go for it but then afterwards, they were like, whoa. But you know what? Life is short. You got to just embrace it. There's nothing wrong with that. It was fun. It was fun. And you know, and you know what it does? It drives traffic to the page where you are discussing passionately animal conservation. So you nailed it. I took my shirt off for wildlife conservation. 100%. Exactly. And, you know, it's so funny. I am a big believer in, like, for myself, I don't take, I just, I don't take myself too seriously. And I think it's, you got to just do that. You got to just kind of send it. Let go and just go for it. And it was so, it was so that dance was the hardest one. Because Whitney, you know, my, the dance partner is like,

okay, you have to be cool and you have to be like really edgy and like passionate. I'm like, I don't know how to do that. That's not my, that's not me. So I got to find this new sort of side to myself. Cool Robert. I never knew he existed, but it was, it was really cool. But then I, now I'm back in my t-shirt or my car keys covered in mud again, and I feel much more natural. Now, as, as a mom of four little princess obsessed girls, my favorite TikTok you put out was the one of you with your niece, Grace. Yes. Yes. Yeah. The Cinderella. This is, it's so good. Oh, what a great spin. How did the real star of the family, Grace, enjoy her time on Dancing with Stars?

She loved it. You know what? That is the correct way to refer to Grace. She is the one. She is the star of the Irwin family, and she is just the best. And I got to tell you that day, it was Halloween, and we're all going trick-or-treating. and I knew that she had dressed up as Cinderella. And so I talked to the Dancing with the Stars wardrobe team

because they just had Disney night, right? And I said to them, can you get me or make me a Prince Charming outfit? And they did. Credit to them. They did. And I was like, yes. And so my sister talked it up to Grace. She's like, you know, Prince Charming might come over.

And I remember I walked through the door in the full costume. There she is in her Cinderella costume. and she is the first time ever I've seen her go all shy. She was just like completely shy. She was like, what? And she says to me, she's like, oh my gosh, Uncle Robert, you're Prince Charming. She's had like, she was like, you've been Prince Charming this whole time. And it was the cutest thing.

And she's like, wait, it's been you the whole time. That's crazy. And I'm like, yep. And we went, we went trick or treating. And it was very cute because, you know, some of the houses were. a little bit scary. Some of the decorations were a little scary. So she would, she would send Prince Charming in first to knock on the door, make sure the coast is clear. And then, and then Cinderella would come up and get her, get her chocolates and candy and

that. Oh, man, we had the best time. But it was, it was crazy being in that dancing with the stars experience. And because she came to like pretty much every live show. She loved it. And I would finish a dance. I'd look into the audience. And there she is, just wide-eyed. just looking, going, oh my gosh, and you just see her just light up in this room. And I just thought, that was me. When I watched my sister do the show, I was a little kid just in awe of this whole experience. And then I got to take that experience. And now I'm watching her doing the same thing.

And I'm like, season 50, she's in there. Like, she's going to be. I was just going to say, let's go three for three. Let's go three for three. We need another Erwin on the floor. Right. Oh, she would be so good. Not even as a, as like a contestant.

She'd be one of the pros. She's the best dancer in the family. Oh my gosh. Yes, Grace. Go ahead. Show them how it's done. She's an icon. Now, when Bindy was on here,

she and I bonded over, uh, you and my brother-in-law, Travis being funcles. Yes. Um, go the funcle. Uncle, Uncle Travis very much, he's on, on the same wavelength.

He'll do anything to make them happy. He wants to flip them, play with them, get on the floor, play Barbies. He'll dance until they tell him to stop. It's all of it. I love that. What do you and Grace get up to together at the Australia Zoo? Because Bindy did tell us that some days it's just like Uncle Robert's here and then Grace is out the door. She doesn't see her for a while.

Oh, yeah. We really run amok. Grace, she gets away with a lot. with me. Like she kind of, it's so funny because she'll, she'll come back and she'll be like, oh, can I have that chocolate? And, and Bindy will be like, oh, no, sweetheart, sorry, you've got to have your, you know, your vegetables first. And she's like, yeah, well, Uncle Robert would let me. Like, she really wields it. Like, she gets away everything. Oh, yeah, I'm like, oh, you want to go for it. Yeah, yeah. Let's do this. Let's do that. She, this is my thing is, we'll go around when

the zoo shuts at 5 p.m. There's no one there. And Grace and I, I have this, like, this little scooter and we'll go around on our scooter and I'll like pick her up and we'll jump in with like the tortoises or the koalas or the wombats and just run around and run amok and it is just so much fun being a funcle is the greatest job on earth honestly I was just saying yesterday aunt's uncles and grandparents have privilege there is a reason that grace knows that she can have the chocolate with you oh yeah it's it's aunt uncle grandparent privilege that is a real thing. And we wheeled it. Like, I love it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it is so good. It's okay. It's okay. It is. Our, uh, our, uh, our third came over to me just yesterday with a cookie almost as big

as her face. And I had to be like, uh, uncle, grandparent privilege. I'm not going to, I'm not going to take the cookie because aunt uncle grandparent privilege. Exactly. That's it. I love that. I love that is so true. And it, and it goes, it's funny. It goes the same, like, in our, in our world. it'll be different. It'll be like, oh, can I, can I please, please, please, you know, jump in with this name an animal, absolutely anything. And then I've got to be like, okay, well, you know, you can't play with that snake because it's venomous. But this one is really sweet and it's a python. So you can, you can touch that one. That's okay. So it's funny to see her like

learn the rules of like what you can and can't do in the zoo. It's really, it's really funny to watch. It's really cool. Now, how old does Grace have to be to start feeding the crocodiles with Uncle Robert? See, this is the problem. This is where the rules kick in. This is where the rules kick in. And I'm very much like, oh, she'll be fine. I was like, I started when I was 10 years old.

So let's just start her at 10, you know? And my sister's like, no, she's got to, she's got to wait. And I'm like, come on. I started asking, when can I feed a crocodile when I was two years. old and I would watch my dad in there and I would literally every single day be like mom when can I feed a croc mom mom and she she I wore her down you know because I kind of I got the age bracket down to 10 years old she was like you have to be double digits before you can feed your first crock and I was fine and I remember my 10th birthday the crocodile was Monty beautiful big big saltwater

crocodile that that my dad had for a very long time and rescued him and I remember and I remember standing in front there watching him coming out of the water and I fed him and there was like a crowd of people and I just felt this sense of absolute it just felt like an honor it felt like wow I'm following in this these footsteps of my family and it just felt like this right of passage feeding my first crocodile and so I'm excited for Grace to experience that but she may be a little older than I was you know she might have to wait a few more years Bindy's very you know, she's very, she's very good. She might be 12. It'll probably be like a teenage thing. Once she's like 12, 13, then she can feed the crocodile. But I'm ready. I'm ready. I, you know,

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Okay. Croccasium. Let me give you some context, right? So my dad watched a film called the Gladiator, of course, Russell Crow, and watched the Coliseum and went. oh my gosh i need that so he built that so he except he went i need that except instead of it being like you're fighting and it's all crazy he was like i want that but i want this like huge showcase of the beauty of the natural world and how amazing crocodiles are and and my mom was

like okay this is kind of wild but all right so he did he built a 5,000 seat auditorium and it's a place where his rescued crocodiles, the crocs that he, you know, rescued from the wild, they were going to be shot, you know, they were going to be killed. And he went and gave them a second chance at life. And there's these beautiful big lagoons out the back of our crockocene. And the crocs will swim through this canal into the main area and do exactly what a crock would be doing out in the wild. You can't convince a crocodile to do anything. So we had no idea if it would work. He built this whole thing and then just went, I'm sure it'll work. It did. The crocodile will come out, they strike out of the water, they get their food. It's this amazing thing. And at the

same time, we get to tell people and teach people about the beauty of these animals. And I do the same thing. He fed the crocs in there. My family and I still feed the very same crocs that he did. And it's such a special thing for me because I love that it's these animals that were always kind of maligned and misunderstood and people thought they were just running around eating you. They're these big, scary monsters, but I get to convince people and show people how lovable they are and how beautiful and powerful and intelligent these creatures are and to hopefully get people to fall in love with them. And that's exactly what he did. I feel the closest to my dad when I'm in there with his crocodiles and I'm feeding him. And it's beautiful. It's also the

ultimate adrenaline rush. Like, mate, it is great. Hey, you've got your car keys. I reckon if you come to Australia. Will you let me slap the water? I reckon I'll get you to feed a crock, mate. I'll get, I'll put you in there. What do you reckon? I'm so in. You want to, you want to feed a brother? Oh my gosh. We'll keep some distance. We'll keep some solid distance. It'll be very safe. But we've, you know, we've got a crocodile name Graham. He's a beautiful big boy. I reckon, mate, you should come feed a crop. So in on this. I'm so in on this. I like I can't even explain to you how in I am. I mean, you've got the uniform.

Let's do it. I'm so in. Now, your mom also just posted a bunch of photos with you, uh, and another animal you love, Jenny, the Burmese python. Jenny. My girl. My girl. I'm so sorry.

How did you become best friends with Jenny? This is, so Jenny is one of these animals. I love that you know about Jenny. This is great. Okay. So, so Jenny is one of these animals where I've, like grown up with her you know how you know we're talking about our dogs and and how you grow up with the family pets that was jenny for me so we as i got taller jenny got longer so jenny is a burmese python

she's got a very interesting coloration though she's beautiful she's like this white color kind of looks like a dalmatian she's got these black spots coming through that species is usually a beautiful mottled brown and black all the way down but she's got this really strange kind of color morph just gorgeous Anyway, there's a photo where I am like a few months old in Jenny's coils. She's like just not constricting me, but she's just coiled up. And I was just kind of laying there with her like a little soft little spot to be. And then we've got another photo. I'm a toddler.

And there she is a little bit longer and I'm a little bit taller. And now she's that big that I can hardly hold her. She is like this thick. She's huge. And she's still, every time she sees me, she wraps around. me and she gives me a little hug, just like she did when I was a baby. It's so cute. We love each other. That's so perfect. I will tell you, I recently got to hold a snake for the first time. Did you? She was a Kenyan Samboa, and I will tell you, I called her a gateway snake because

Homegirl was like a stuffed animal. She was just chilling. She was jelly. Was she big? She was, no. She was probably this big and she was jelly. It felt like she was a, like a, like a weighted sand stuffy, you know? Like that's, and she was chilling. And the only way you knew that she was kicking was at her little tongue. Yeah, the little thing. She was just like, mm, let me taste that. Just sussing you out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the gateway snake. I love that. That is so, because they are, that species is so chill. They're like the koalas of the snake world. They're just like, yeah, whatever. she was she was so cool and I was mentally prepared for larger so when I got her I was like this is great oh this is amazing don't they feel really cool like when you feel them move around

and you feel how they're very like smooth and and cool and people think they're sticky and slimy but they're not cold I know that sounds so silly I know that sounds so silly because you know cold-blooded. But here we are. My brain was like, that's so much colder than I thought she was going to be. And you know, that means she would have really liked you holding her because the warmth from your hands is going to warm her up. And snakes naturally, they need to get their warmth from somewhere. Sometimes, you know, obviously that's the sun. They'll regulate their body temperature. But often if they're a little cold, when you hold them, they actually really like it because it's warming them up. And they actually seek that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. That's

It was so good. But I am ready. I am ready to hold a bigger sneak. So when I come to Australia, I'm saying when. Jenny. You and Jenny. In a heartbeat. Now, I have to ask this question for my brother-in-law. Travis loves otters. What's the craziest fun fact about otters that I can hit him with next time we get together? Oh my gosh. Okay. I don't know if I call this a fun fact, but it's more of like a personality trait. Otters, there are some species of otters that are absolute machines. They are so incredible at hunting.

You look at an otter and they just look super adorable, but they're one of the most in-tune hunters I have ever seen. I was in Oregon, and I was photographing otters on a river, right? on this like frozen lake and they would be underneath the ice and they'd catch a fish and flick it up onto the ice it was like look like those orcas when they catch a seal grabs this fish chucks it up there jumps up onto the ice midair catches it and then just starts eating it tail first and i'm just like you are savage like just straight in there i've got these otters called asian small clawed otters absolutely gorgeous but

they will chase you around their habitat and when they bite oh mate they bite so hard they've actually got some of the best and sharpest teeth in the animal kingdom so i love them and they are adorable but i love that they also have this little edge to them you don't mess with an otter don't mess with an otter because mate they'll give you a good go and that loves that makes me love them even more you know they've got a little bit of what we like to call the fuck around and find out energy. I like it. Boom. Right there. Switching gears a little bit. Something else I talked to Bindy about was her battle with endometriosis and the important of speaking up and advocating for women's health. I just want to say, I think you have done such an incredible job, not only supporting Bindy,

but also using your voice to bring awareness to women's health. So first of all, thank you. Thank you for saying, I think it's really important. We talk about it a lot in our family. I feel like it's something that I think it's a responsibility for men and women to be talking about this and I have found that I've learnt so much on Bindy's journey with this where I feel a real responsibility to make sure that it becomes a more mainstream and widespread discussion because like I didn't realize the more that you really look into this field of women's health it is so under researched and funded and discussed and we still as far as the medical system has come we still have a long way to go and that's going to that that momentum can only happen if we're all

talking about it so no thank you i i appreciate you saying that um and supporting bindi in her health journey was just one of many ways it's clear that you guys have an awesome bond as a mom of four children i'm hoping to raise my girls to be as close as possible what do you guys think is the reason that you guys have such a great sibling relationship yeah i think I think for us, you know, we, first of all, we have two amazing role models in our life, our parents, our mum and dad, I think really exemplify what it is to be great people who lead with a sense of authentic passion. And, you know, I think my sister and I went through obviously a very tough time and have navigated some really challenging things

throughout our childhood with the loss of dad. And I feel like my mum showed us the power of unity. And when you lose someone very close to you, it really reveals the people around you. It's very revealing. you very quickly understand who's who and what's what you know and some people react really well some people not so much and we just felt like our tight-knit little family the three of us my mom my sister and i we just became this little bubble of love and we just i know for me i don't know what i would do without my sister because every milestone that i've come to and also every

milestone that I've had to reach in the public eye, which is challenging in itself. She's done it before. And she's just this one step ahead where she's always there to lend advice. And she is truly one of my greatest inspirations. But I think, yeah, it is my mum that's kept us so close. And I think through life's ups and downs, and particularly the downs, I feel like it's just brought us so incredibly close. But I think it's also, you've got to have a really great sense of, of huge.

and fun. And like when we travel together, we genuinely enjoy it. Like I, I love traveling with my family. I love when we're together as a unit where we're all working towards the same goal. I mean, our life is about this legacy and this message that is greater than ourselves. And that has always felt like such a privilege to do that. But I admire my sister too because her message now is not just wildlife conservation, but it's also an incredible advocacy. for women's health. She is amazing. What she went through with Endo was very challenging, very confronting, you know, because we're so incredibly close. And I watched her on this decline for so many years. And the worst part of it was the fact that she had no answers. Her body

was declining and declining and declining. And every single time she would be trying so desperately to get help, it was just a brick wall. You know, she was just a brick wall. You know, she was just, just hitting brick walls and it was incredibly frustrating but when when she got that help not only did she go through all of this to help herself but she used that story to help other women whatever she's doing whatever she goes through I'm like right here to make sure I can back her up and I know that it would be the same for me she's got my back and it's just this sense of hey I'm in your corner and I've got you and yeah that's a that's a that's a powerful thing. Having Bindy Irwin in your corner is like you feel like you could just climb Mount

Everest. Seriously. Like she is the goat. And I know after she had her chat with you, you've got her and you've got us in your corner always, mate, 100%. Oh, I very much appreciate that. You got us on your side. It is an absolute honor to speak to both of you. I will say my last question for you is something that I also asked, Bindi. What is the easiest way for people at home to support wildlife conservation? I love this. And this, because people see wildlife conservation so often as this huge insurmountable thing. I mean, how do I save the world when I'm one person? The first thing I say is, which again, my sister says so eloquently, believe in your own strength to change the world. You have to first and foremost, you've got to unite. We all need to unite together and realize

our own power to make a difference. And it starts very small. I think if you are an adult and you've got kids in your life, I think probably the most important thing is instilling a sense of passion and responsibility for the natural world within the young people in your life. Because our next generation, they're going to be the ones that are going to save this world, a hundred percent. and start volunteering. Volunteer, volunteer, volunteer. Get out there and just start pursuing that passion. And slowly but surely, you'll inspire people and you'll snowball that.

So to make a short story long, there you go. And do you notice what happens? See how my light just went off? I'm saving power by conserving my, by conserving power. I just turned my light off. And that's another thing that you can do at home. Boom.

Nailed it. Thank you. Thank you. I meant for that to happen. I cannot thank you enough for chatting today. Congratulations on your recent win. You can check out Wildlife Warriors and all the incredible work Robert and the entire Irwin family is doing.

You can also go to wildlife warriors.org to donate. Thank you so much. This has been incredible. Honestly, it's just been amazing. My sister just spoke so. incredibly highly of you and thinks the world of you. So do I. We, we appreciate you so much. And honestly, it is 100% genuine. When you come to Australia, we're feeding a crock. We're meat in a koala and a wombat. It's all happening. And this is going to be too much.

Mate, it's going to happen. You're the best. Thank you. Thank you so much. I really, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it. And I will tell you, my, my parents, when I, after I got to talk to Bindy, were like, I'm so proud of you for not crying. Oh. That is really sweet. Because they know kids used to come home from school and put on MTV, watch like TRL countdown, all that stuff.

I was in there. It was Channel 41. I was in there. It was me and Animal Planet. I love that. Every single day. Oh, I love that so much. So I feel very, very privileged to get to speak to you and Bindy, and I'm so grateful that

you came on as our season finale because I feel like it was the perfect timing coming off of your big win. And I'm so excited to continue the conversation of wildlife warriors and making sure that people know the mission and know how to support. Thank you so much. Thank you for being a wildlife warrior yourself. Always. Thank you.

Always. Let's go. In my khaki. And that's a wrap on this episode and this first season of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from a longer conversation with Robert on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. I'll be back in just a few weeks with our season two premiere. In the meantime, make sure to follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media. We're going to be putting out bloopers and never before seeing clips there.

And also right on our NGL YouTube channel, listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast, not going to lie, is a wave original driven by the Hess Toy Truck. Thanks to the real ones for tuning in until season two. Happy fucking holidays, everybody.